I posted the other day about my first date. I have now been on 2 more. I'm getting good at chatting now, my first date was 5 hours today around a historical site. I managed to keep it fun but I struggled to establish attraction. I did very little kino but I had fun getting to know her. My second date was tonight, it went well. I feel like I pulled together a lot of the stuff I've read on this subreddit and it really worked out. I did a lot of kino, I started with arm touches and legs touching and gradually moved from there. I was honest about not wanting a relationship from the start, no bs. I also kept doing a bit of teasing and kept her guessing about stuff. She kept asking how many girls I've been with (none LOL) and I would answer it indirectly. She definitely liked this. Anyway I managed to make out with her and I was so fucking happy. The issue was I had no idea when to kiss her, she ended up asking if she could kiss me ... I'm an idiot.

If anyone could give me general advice it would be awesome, I'm only super new to this stuff but I'm here to learn. I have these questions: - How do you decide when is the right time to kiss? Is going for it at the wrong time going to kill the attraction? - Suggestions for improving my kino? I feel like I'm still so bad at it. When you're walking is there any good ways to do it that I'm missing at early stages of a date when you obviously can't go for hand holding or arm around the back or something like that?

Cheers