TLDR: Yo reddit I got a question about if I should stay with wingmaning with this dude or give it up. Basically this dude and I have been wingmaning for a while. Hes not bad, and it can be fun to talk t another person whos knows about game and its theories, but I am starting to feel hes bringing down my progress. Why? Because:

  1. He does not seem very serious about this seduction stuff and only half asses it. We did not go out that often like every 2 weeks, but when we do, we spend 2-3 hours out and only approach like 2 woman if that (daygame). Not because their was not attractive woman out there but because like the dude had to make sure everything was perfect. Like his type had to be there, hast to be in this certain area, it had to come at the right angle had to have already seen IOI's, etc. He also needs to get super "instate" otherwise he just will not do a set the entire time we are out. His argument is that he's is doing quality over quantity as he wants a girl who is his ideal girl and that spam approaching is "low value" but I call BS because...

  2. When he does get a woman number hes not bad with the interaction (like hes not awkward and he does know some stuff) but to date: He has never converted any of these numbers to a date. The reason is fairly obvious: He doesn't push the woman enough to build the attraction he needs to make it so she would want to take the next step with him (IE get her out on a date). Or like he will be texting the woman and say he wants to take it "slow" and keep texting her till eventually she gets tired and stops responding. So if your getting 0 dates or fucks from this method why keep doing it? Ill tell you...

  3. I think because he has a stable lay from a woman he keeps seeing (but repeatedly tells me he does not want to keep and is actively trying to find someone better) he is not trying his hardest he could. He knows he can fall back to her at any time and does not need to try with these new woman at all.

So at this point I am thinking that hes just starting to hold me back. For context, before meeting him I was going out like every day for 1-2 hours max and doing 6-10 approaches. Got a couple of dates and a couple of fucks from this method too so I know it works. However, I know that this type of schedule can be a little insane, so I was not expecting him to match that. What I was expecting was him to AT LEAST seem hes a little dedicated then he has shown the last couple of months out. I have tried talking to him about it or tried to gently nudge him into more social stuff but he just does not seem to want to learn. I am starting to feel like his "style" is starting to rub off on me as I am having a harder time going up to woman with not as much talking to them as before and just more reserved in general. So I think I might be out.