Studying pickup and seduction made me depressed.

bl1y · 2015-08-11T13:23:33+00:00

Get out and actually talk to some women. You'll find that in practice it's not a formula at all.

This is like saying you get depressed after learning music theory because it's just a bunch of formulas and patterns. Might seem that way if all you do is look at the paper and never actually listen to music.

philosarapter · 2015-08-11T17:57:21+00:00

While certain techniques work better than others, human beings aren't simply input-output devices, and you shouldn't view them as such. People differ wildly from each other, and what will work for some people won't work for others. The only universally attractive trait is confidence. (Mostly because everyone knows how terrible it is to be friends with negative people).

As for your inability to develop deep connections with girls, it seems you've already listed your issue: You think of girls as toys to be played for sex. If you objectify people in this manner, then its no wonder you won't feel any closeness to them. Women are not toys, they are human beings and until you start treating them like such, you'll have issues developing real connections with them.

If you want intimacy, you must allow vulnerability.

potbellyWhaleHunter · 2015-08-11T13:14:38+00:00

Woman here, maybe this will cheer you up: We know just as much as guys know about these seduction game/ PUA techniques/social dynamics. When pickup techniques works its because we like you/ we are horny and allow them to work and we think of guys as dildos just as much as guys think of us as toys.

Thing is, there is another game. The REAL game. The game Pick-up-fuck-players dont know shit about, that is the love-game. The Love-game is where the real battles are fought, and fuck-players will repeatedly tell you this arena (love) is just chemicals and not real because they fear the real game, the Love-game like hell. (And they fear it with good reason, because us girls outsourced all initiative to boys. Thus creating the undergame fuck-game as a platform guys could excel in gathering sexual partners, and now women too play in that field, but on a much higher score / success rate, this making male fuck-gamers work extremely hard to create a mindset where it doesnt hurt to lose in this game and that mindset is affecting you now.) But dont be sad, the game model is much bigger than just the fuck-game-platform. The Love-game is the level over this and its whre youll find what you seek, but you need to be more patient.

The real game, the love-game isnt a game you'll play many times in your life. Personally, I've only been there 2 times my whole life, and I'm 30. So trust me when I say it will be years inbetween these battles, but it will happen. Suddenly there is a person who invoke butterflies in your stomach and sweat in your hands and make you want to be a better person and make you cringe when you think about your fuck-game-throphywall.

Untill you get a shot at the love-game, be happy playing in the undergame-arena with the other fuck-gamers. Its a great place to teach yourself to be good in bed and how to take someone on a date or how to talk to the opposite gender. You'll know when the love-game happens, and you will have to google a whole other set of rules to be able to play the love-game. But stay in there man. Fuck-game is just mid-time entertainment between the real battles, for both genders. You meet these kind of people when you least expect it, -as long as you make sure to get out to locations where a potential soulmate might wander. (You like books? Go to the library. You like swimming? Go to a open pool and so on. . Good luck man! :)

Bodegaz · 2015-08-11T07:49:12+00:00

I have this same problem.

SkillOfLure · 2015-08-11T06:35:52+00:00

Not sure if troll post after checking your post history.

If you're wanting something more long term then find a girl with similar interests and hobbies. Then go and do those hobbies.

Title	Studying pickup and seduction made me depressed.
Author	Carlos633
Upvotes	5
Comments	14
Date	August 11, 2015 6:25 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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