Lots of threads turn into a looks debate nowadays.

And to be honest, rightly so. The notion that girls don't care about looks, or that looks don't matter is ridiculously false.

If a girl isn't remotely physically attracted to you when you open her, no amount of confidence and charisma (game) will change that. In fact, she'll likely not even give you a chance to 'run your game' and talk to her lol

HOWEVER, before you lose all hope, it's important to remember that tastes really can vary quite a lot and some hot girls will have a very different idea of what 'good looking' is.

Obviously a conventionally handsome guy whose tall and dark and with perfect facial features will be attractive to like 95% of girls, but it doesn't make it a lost cause if you're not handsome. Just means you need too approach more to find them girls!

I'm like a 5 and I banged a 9 last year from cold approach. I'd like to pat myself on the back and say it was my magical 'game' that somehow manipulated her mind like a jedi, but the truth is (and it's the truth every time someone pulls a girl) she honestly thought I was handsome. (even though no other girls in the bar that night did! lol. It was a rejections-fest until I caught eyes with her. Prettiest girl i've ever banged). The IOI from her was so strong that the actual 'open' was almost mutual!

And just this weekend gone I was out with some girls I used to work with, and one of the girls (gorgeous) noticed a guy at the bar, and basically said ''I want him now!!''. I looked over and was kinda shocked. In fact, so were her 3 friends! They were like ''Really?!!! The guy in the white T-shirt with the tattoo?'' and were clearly not seeing 'it'. And from a guys point of view, I saw a guy with a slight potatoe face (no strong jaw etc that girls love) with a little recession in his hair. Not 'ripped', but not fat. Completely 'normal' body. Slightly tall. Maybe 6'1''. When she kind of 'beckoned him over' whilst her friends pointed at her basically mouthing ''She likes you'', he looked like he couldn't believe his luck lol. (this girl is gorgeous)

He came over and she was massively flirty (which made it all super super easy for him as she was basically 'gaming' him. Escalating, sexualising convo, asking HIM questions and filling silences etc meaning he didn't have to worry about 'running out of things to say'' etc)

So even though looks really are basically everything (because you can't escalate on girls who think you're ugly), don't think that just beacause you're not handsome you won't ever be able to find a hot girl for the night who thinks you're kinda cute! They're out there!