What the other side knows (Comment thread from 2XChromosomes)...

TheEllimist · 2012-09-21T06:49:50+00:00

Any time someone on 2X gets a backhanded "compliment" from a male, or even is downright insulted, someone always suggests it's negging. Ultimately they have no clue what pickup actually is beyond shit they learned on VH1 and from internet idiots, and you'll get downvoted there for trying to reasonably explain it to them. They're convinced it's treating women as a puzzle you unlock to get sex out of, and it's not self improvement at all (and if it is, you should "be yourself" and not ever seek to change at all because that's "fake").

squarehouse · 2012-09-21T06:37:47+00:00

Calling a woman a slut isn't negging. That's what I call "bitching out". In other words, the guy has no self confidence and shitty inner game, believes that rejection is immanent, and thus decides to call her a slut to protect his ego.

The method on how to do this is in Mystery Method, page 76, paragraph 4.

thendrill · 2012-09-21T11:20:28+00:00

Guys.... Listen the do have a point....

You have to distinguish between the difference between a guy that knows pua material and a guy that is defined by pua material..

The latter is a very sad thing... I dont understand all the PUA hate... as someone said on that disscussion :

"You never notice the PUAs that aren't idiots. It's like toupees- only the bad ones stand out."

Don't forget that the whole point of PUA is not to become a PUA. its to go back to natural state habbits.

bonyhawk · 2012-09-21T09:34:23+00:00

THEY'RE ONTO US! No but seriously, they obviously don't know how PUAs work assuming they are insulting. Of all the shit that I've learned, never read/see/hear someone say to be disrespectful to women. As a matter of fact, you're supposed to make them laugh and be a fun guy to be around. And it's not like women are never manipulating towards men. It might not have so much been for sex but it is still the same concept.

frogma · 2012-09-21T12:52:19+00:00

Guys, please don't comment in that thread. It's 5 days old.

This is what kinda sucks about the various terms we use (well, some of them just suck in general). If those terms had never become popular, and people took the time to just describe things in detail (I'm not saying people should do that -- just making a point), most of the comments in that thread wouldn't be there right now.

If we didn't have "HB," we wouldn't be accused of "dehumanizing" women. If we didn't have "target," same thing -- though nobody seems to realize that "target" is used to differentiate the girl you're focusing on from the rest of the group (instead of saying something like "the girl I was most attracted to"), and "HB[#]" is a way of differentiating various girls (just one of many possible ways, which is necessary when you're dealing with multiple girls).

If the VH1 show never existed, a lot of this shit would be a non-issue. When some of these PUAs do interviews on various talk shows, they usually end up getting people to change their minds about the whole community. Unfortunately, many more people have heard about and seen the VH1 show, and it's easy to forget about what was said in a random interview.

If it were up to me, I'd get rid of some of the terms, and change a bunch of the others ("target" would become "focus" or something like that).

It also sucks when people outside the community talk about negs as if it's something we discuss and recommend constantly. Especially here on seddit, where basically the opposite is true -- hell, most guys here have redefined the term to mean the same thing as teasing, and most other guys don't even recommend negs in the first place.

There's this "technique" called the "Door Pattern" or something like that -- people tend to use it as an example of how horrible the community (and seddit itself) is. I've searched for it here before, and only saw it mentioned three times -- each time, it was posted by an SRSer, not any regular seddit member. Naturally, each time it was posted, the comments were all like "What the fuck is this?!" Nobody talks about it, nobody uses it (as far as I know), yet for some reason it somehow represents seddit.

2012-09-21T13:51:50+00:00

tl;dr - they're about 10 years behind.

ImChrisBrown · 2012-09-21T09:43:32+00:00

Ha. What lowly human being's. I purchased The Game for a target of mine (second time i've done that, btw) and the wench at barnes & nobles gave me guff for buying a sleazy book so I could learn to seduce women. I wanted to make this interaction as short as possible but she had other things in mind. I told her it was for a friend, she said, 'thats what they all say' i replied with 'no really, i read it a few years back. I use the material occasionally.' She proceeded with more guff (hb5, noo reason for this crap)

After a whole lot more words I exited the conversation with a, "well, you know what they say. Ignorance is....bliss. Thank you"

These women choose ignorance. Any intelligent self respecting, good looking female wants to have good game ran on her and wants to understand game. Have you been to a club lately? Good G-d, Game Theory is the salvation of the human race. Honeys WANT to be approached, honeys WANT to have game (good game) ran on them yet guys are bumbling bafoons and don't know anything about attraction or seduction. TL;DR: Girls are stupid and WANT to have good game ran on them.

2012-09-21T11:19:47+00:00

Haha. You couldn't pay me to go out with the kind of girls who post to 2XC. No thanks man. Let them hate.

Title	What the other side knows (Comment thread from 2XChromosomes)...
Author	AmericanSpy
Upvotes	11
Comments	15
Date	September 21, 2012 4:21 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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