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[β]norwegiandoggo 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link
Using social skills to control and defend a perceived social reality where you are considered attractive and/or dominant.
You may also want to check the concept Social Constructionism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_constructionism
An example: You are on a date and a girl says "your hair is out of fashion"
She is trying to construct a reality where you aren't good at keeping a good hair style..she is creating a reality where you have a problem. Or you have a flaw, rather.
You can defend a better frame by saying something like "I didn't know hair was that important to you".
Now you are saying the problem is that she cares a lot about hair.. and the problem is therefore not that you are poor with hair upkeep. But that she is superficial.
It's subtle this. Takes practice.
[β]BensonInFL 5 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
a girl says "your hair is out of fashion"
and then you say.. "yes, that works out well for you"
Girl: (confused) "Why is that ?"
Guy: Because if I kept up more with current trends, I would be out of your league lol
You're the prize .. and you don't validate her shit tests... That's frame control :)
-B
[β]L0n3W01f_ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is perfect response
[β]HOTBOY226 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Girl: your clothes are outdated
You: really, because I was going to wear it again on our next date
[β]nuc1earwessels 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's damn savage.
[β]ChipmunkResponsible4 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whatβs an example of validating her shit
[β]Pringles__ 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for defining what frame control is. I hadn't realised that there was such a thing.
I realise now that my frame control improved drastically when I started being more honest, bold, and vulnerable with people.
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
less subtle example that I've used (didn't get me laid but theres a certain glory in being defiant and cocky)
[β]MakeSail 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for the link.
Frame in the context of intimate relationships in conversation, in relation to the male role, can be viewed as purpose as to understanding what makes and maintains a healthy relationship.
Your specific example is a test. So how to respond? It will depend on how the man views the statement in importance to maintaining a healthy relationship. What he feels is the best course of action. There are several options, here are the basic 4:
1) Respond - Fully answer or satisfy the statement or question.
2) Reframe - Partially answer or satisfy the statement or question.
3) Replace - Provide an answer that is created from what you would have liked to been asked.
4) Ignore - No answer, no reaction, physical or emotional.
What I have found is that I can guide the conversation in the manner I feel fit, using the above without any real consequences. Women do not communicate like men. They are about respecting others points of view and discovery, not facts or resolution. Women will not take offense.
So the point is, the man can maintain his Frame in conversation without concern as to satisfying any question or request or statement from the woman. Guide the conversation to product the best outcome for yourself and the relationship, this is what matters. He is his own reality, his own Frame.
[β]DippinChese 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Girls who like to tease you for not being good looking enough while flirting.
Her: Youβre face arenβt attractive enough!
Me: But itβs enough to get multiple attention from you
[β]BetterBeLuckyThanGud -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what kind of frame control would this be ?
girl : your hair is out of fashion
guy : yeah , you`re right
[β]norwegiandoggo 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Blatantly accepting a frame easily is a way to kind of let them keep their frame idea but not support it or encourage it.. it takes focus away from it by quickly changing subjects.. it also shows you're nonreactive. So I think its a pretty good response.
This framing thing is about a lot more than what is explicitly said.. it's also about subtext and how it is said
[β]perpeldicular 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
"Never break frame" is some of the best advice I ever got ... totally at random from a lawyer dude
[β]MeshackAjax[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Any challenges you've has implementing this?
[β]perpeldicular 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Just forgetting to do so when my energy levels are low or my attention and intention are out of focus.
[β]MeshackAjax[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What's your take on there terms frames and frame control
[β]perpeldicular 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Frame is perspective
How does one think fast and how to tell when your in someone elseβs perspective
[β]Dauntless11911 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Frame control aka. Glorified witchcraft. Glorified mind control.
It's a counterfeit to the original. Like how lust is a counterfeit for attraction.
Figure it out. Should be interesting.
[β]MeshackAjax[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
._.
[β]Dauntless11911 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry mate, it's all a part of lucifer's arbitrary dogmas. I'm just the janitor that sweeps it in the trash.
[β]MeshackAjax[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Please don't sweep me away
[β]Dauntless11911 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
U reek of your father. You're already trash.
[β]MeshackAjax[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Nooo, i refuse to be trash
[β]Dauntless11911 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Tares out number wheat a couple hundred thousand to one. You're all trash.
[β]MeshackAjax[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We are whom we're called trash
[β]Dauntless11911 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
frame control is more like = Demonic/fallen angel control.
Think of it like being their sock puppet. Seamless integration. Nothing but a farce is what you're experiencing.
[β]niceguyputin 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
r/asktrp
[β]MeshackAjax[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Already asked there, he only answer you'll guess there is read the sidebar you dumbass
[β]onenightstanduhoes -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes
How do you handle them trying to troll you? Itβs like they use the agree and exaggerate which makes it annoying For example Him: where u live Her: near you π
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