Little background here, I used to be an opiate addict, I would use and drink every week and literally hook up with an 7-10hb almost every weekend. The result I would get for one reason or another were so good, it lead me into addiction. I couldnt live like that anymore because it was ruining my life in other aspect so I quit opiates but still drank. It was like I had to learn pick up all over again but after a little time I was back on track and realized I didnt need opiates to get women/be confident.

Now I am on a self improvement kick (been for a while now) and I wanted to try to go out without drinking (its effecting my diet/gym gains. wallet, etc.)

So about 2 weeks ago I go out sober, wasnt a bad time but I didnt really approach anyone just hung by my friend, I really just felt out of place. day before Yesterday I went out again sober, to a small local bar, I had a good time, was a girl there who I wanted to go up to but I just couldnt muster the confidence to do it (what do i say? What would I normally say? WHY IS THIS SO HARD?) and she was gone..Frustrated from that I went out yesterday to learn and try again.

Me and two buddies go to a club its packed it women, I see a chick alone I go up and say "hi, Im dean" she gives me a confused look like what is this guy talking to me "I say I dont come here much and I wanted to meet new people" she says her name I ask if she lives close by she said she doesnt, after that bit of small talk things got awkward feeling and I said well nice to meet you and walked away.

See another group of girls approach start talking to them, am flirting with the hot one of the group tell her I think shes beautiful and Im going to marry her (playfully) she laughs and we joke about it...then things fell off so I walked away. It was almost like I didnt know how to have a quality conversation. They were just average bullshit conversations (small talk) that lead to no where even with kino.

At this point I say FUCK THIS. and I get a drink hoping it would up my state. I start getting drunk and approaching/dancing and rejection after rejection after getting weird looks like (who the fuck is this guy) My confidence was going downnn. at this point I am so in my head, I look around and it seems as though I have hit on and been rejected by a good amount of women there. (SO UNUSUAL for me, usually I PICK who I want to leave with when I come already drunk and instate)

The girls who are left seem to all be with guys (never really know how to approach this?) any advice. Anyway I remember at one point just standing there so defeated and down on myself. I feel like I will NEVER be able to get the same results sober that I get while being drunk. It so frustrating too to go from being really good drunk to almost being incoherent sober, I felt less fun/funny/social sober. It was really hard and upsetting. What the hell am I to do? anybody have advice on this whole sober thing.