I [20m] am 5’3 tall. The rest of my family is average to tall: my dad is 5’10, my mom is 5’6, my brothers are 5’11 and 6’1.
When I was 11 or 12, my doctor told my family that my pituitary gland was malfunctioning/acting unpredictably, so in the coming years it would either stop producing growth hormone altogether really quickly and leave me short, or it would overproduce and I’d be tall (6’3+). It was impossible to predict which one would happen, and they suggested hormone stabilizing shots that would ensure normal growth.
My parents have been and are still wealthy and had no issue paying for these, but they said I had a chance to become very tall without these shots so I should take it. I said I’d rather have the shots because I’d rather just guarantee I’m ‘average’ than have a 50% shot of being incredibly short, but they didn’t listen.
As a result, I stopped growing very early and I’m only 5’3. My parents and siblings always make jokes about it and how I don’t have a girlfriend, which makes me angry because it was quite literally their choice that led me to the situation in which I don’t have a girlfriend and am short.
This past weekend, they visited me at college, and started making the same jokes, so I got angry and shouted at them that they can joke all they want but the reality is I’m in the situation I’m in because of the choice they made.
My mom started crying, and my dad got angry and said I was being a huge AH. AITA?
[–]vengeful_alliyou[S] 46 points47 points48 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Redditors are willing to accept that life is unfair when it comes to race and socioeconomic status, but dating is somehow completely fair???? Do their brains even fucking work??????
[–]NefariousNazVerified Career-Personality-Geo Maxxed 24 points25 points26 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Reddit accepts that life is unfair for race, socioeconomic status, gender status... except for when that intersects with men dating and romance. Then it's completely due to your own personal failings.
I grew up poor and ethinic minority in non english speaking household. I am now very educated and above average income and net worth, but my romantic/dating part of life always struggled. According to reddit my dating life speaks more to my character than my success in overcoming challenges in life and my activity in volunteerism helping sick children and their families. Either that or they just accuse me of lying about my successes.
[–]vengeful_alliyou[S] 9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The greatest mental health practice a sub5 male can do is accept it's not his fault. Everyone will gaslight you and send you in an infinite never ending spiral of self improving for women which ends no where.
[–]NefariousNazVerified Career-Personality-Geo Maxxed 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's what I say. It is a relief when you realize it isn't due to anything you're doing or not doing. Response I get on reddit is "no it is your fault and that's just an excuse to not improve yourself"
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
no activity in volunteerism for your jawline
[–]DataBingo 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The poster's gender is what causes the lack of empathy and validation. All sympathy is reserved for women.
[–]browsing8 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ve found this odd. Back in the day if someone was deemed unfit in a capitalist system, Ppl would often blame their choices and tell them to work harder, pull themselves up by their bootstraps etc. recently it’s become accepted that the system, as most are, isn’t inherently fair. Ppl understand that there r traits or circumstances outside of ones control that will dictate socioeconomic success. Yet in the dating market, there’s this pervasive view that it must be one personal shortcomings linked to agency holding them back and that the market aligns with the just world model. It’s like ppl have become socialists when examining the economic marketplace but anarcho capitalists for the dating and hookup market.
Times have changed and the market has become sort of laissez faire. Not against that because old systems we had encroached on ppls autonomy, but it shouldn’t be a faux pas to recognize it imo. As far as morally acceptable “solutions” go, I’d be in support of legalization of sex work similar to countries like Netherlands and Germany. Afaik both service providers and clients r in favor of this. Safer for everyone, new tax revenue stream too.
[–]Rammspieler 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Marx on the streets. Rand in the sheets.
[–]lostatlifecoach 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Reddit is full of that shit. I've got a shit ton of downvotes over on r/dadit for simply suggesting fathers should teach their sons not to cry in front of people.
Same dudes gonna wonder why their sons are bullied, lonely, or possibly married to a bitch that got him raising other men's kids.
[–]EverVigilant1 15 points16 points17 points (3 children) | Copy Link
First, who's the asshole?
Parents: you ARE the assholes. You should have given him the treatment. Assholes - you gambled with your son's life, and he lost. Yeah parents: Next time, gamble your own lives, not those of your children.
Sorry, but it's over for the OP. he's only 5'3". For whatever reason, height is a major, major dealbreaker for women. It just is. It's over for him, and the worst part about it is that it did not have to be this way. A treatment was available and his asshole parents didn't take advantage of it.
People can't accept that this man will forever be disadvantaged because they want so much to believe in the "goodness" of people, especially women. They want to believe in fundamental fairness. They want to believe that looks don't matter. They want to believe that it will all be OK.
They want to believe. They want to have faith.
But they have no courage, and they cannot face the truth.
I didn't say it would be easy or fun. I told you - all I'm offering you is the truth.
[–]NefariousNazVerified Career-Personality-Geo Maxxed 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The gamble didn't even make sense. When they saw that he stopped growing they could have gone ahead and got the hormone shots.
It sounds more like they just didn't feel like it or didn't want to spend the money, and then tried to convince him that was a personal decision.
[–]DataBingo -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
I wouldn't blame him if he attacked them
[–]SoulBadguy0408 7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
People are so anti incel that they can't accept that to some extent there's truth to it
I mean... I get why people are anti incel
Just don't pretend like there aren't valid things that'd hold someone back and isn't their fault
[–]DataBingo 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The idea that women could be at fault for any of men's problems doesn't compute
[–]DoubleSomewhere2483 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s the most fucked up thing I’ve ever read. Reading those comments has permanently altered my perception of all women. They simply lack the ability to empathize with others. I am literally crying reading that shit and I’m not even short.
[–]DesolateDanse 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I thought you were exaggerating about the comments but no there’s literally chicks blaming OP for his dating situation. Poor guy.
[–]1Card_x 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
you should post this on r/shortguys
[–]DataBingo 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I posted it there just now
[–]Agianttruckofpizza 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, I do see some posts in his defense, but truthfully very few people will understand the effect height has unless they themselves are short. Especially women because height essentially has no effect on their dating opportunities.
[–]bruhminer 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, 5'3 is really bad, I am 5'6 and I height fraud to 5'8-5'9 and it's still still ultra rough for me. It's crazy they had a chance to fix his issue but choose not to, the guy had an actual medical problem.
People are just stupid or incapable of sympathy, it's not necessarily their fault, you can't sympathize with someone when you haven't experienced what they're going through.
What I will say that is if you're short it's best to never say anything about it ever, not to your parents, not your friends, especially not to women. I for one have never been made fun of or bullied for my height despite the fact that I was pretty much always the shortest guy whenever I went, I don't know why, maybe I just got lucky but I also never mentioned anything about it ever, not even a joke, nothing. Perhaps that helped.
[–]Fofotron_Antoris 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
People like to believe that the individual is always responsible for his circunstances in life when, in some cases, he is disadvantaged by outside factors through no fault of his own. This is especially true in regards to dating
[+]NefariousNazVerified Career-Personality-Geo Maxxed -7 points-6 points-5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Throughout the post are posts asserting that his dating problems are due to his attitude and not due to his height.
I do agree height is not the only factor, if his face looked like brad pitt he would be able to pull something, but I doubt that's the case here.
[–]uselessloner123 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
At 5’ 3”? It’s over dude. Even with a handsome face it wouldn’t do anything
Women want 6ft+ these days.
[–]bruhminer 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
At 5'3 ? Brother, just imagine brad pitt if he was 5'3, he would look like a caricature. I unironically think it's best for shorter guys when they don't have really good looking facial features, like a very square jaw, it looks very out of place.
[+]Weekly_Signal6481 -7 points-6 points-5 points (72 children) | Copy Link
They're not gaslighting him at all it's true being short is a disadvantage but lots of short men get girlfriends get lots of girlfriends and get lots of dates so it's not just their height
[–]ItoshiSae10 0 points1 point2 points (69 children) | Copy Link
That wasnt what the posts were saying though especially upvoted ones.
And not many 5`3 ugly guys are getting laid in this generation
[–]Weekly_Signal6481 0 points1 point2 points (68 children) | Copy Link
He didn't say he was ugly , just that he was 5'3 . 5'3 ugly guys get laid also . Getting laid is easy for anyone
[–]ItoshiSae10 0 points1 point2 points (67 children) | Copy Link
``5'3 ugly guys get laid also . Getting laid is easy for anyone``
They dont and its not.
[–]Weekly_Signal6481 0 points1 point2 points (66 children) | Copy Link
They do and it is
[–]ItoshiSae10 0 points1 point2 points (65 children) | Copy Link
Prove both
[–]Weekly_Signal6481 0 points1 point2 points (64 children) | Copy Link
I don't believe that's something I can prove on the internet. That's my extensive life experience, I've known lots of short guys , some ugly some not ugly and none of them had a dufficult time getting laid . I'm not very tall or good looking and I've never had a hard time getting laid . It really does have a lot to do with personality
[–]ItoshiSae10 0 points1 point2 points (63 children) | Copy Link
Okay so no proof gotcha
[–]Weekly_Signal6481 0 points1 point2 points (62 children) | Copy Link
Reality and experience is my proof
[–]ItoshiSae10 0 points1 point2 points (61 children) | Copy Link
Experience for you=/= applies to everyone.
[–]uselessloner123 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah but the short guys who get gfs (sometimes) are like 5’ 8” or 5’ 7” and usually with tall women.
5’ 3” is bad, really bad.
I don’t think there’s much hope for him honestly
[–]Weekly_Signal6481 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
shorter guys get girls too
[–]Expensive_Trifle_559 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it’s simply that a lot of women don’t want to recognize themselves as shallow as they actually are, so when they’re confronted with that reality they deflect and blame the guy for whatever they think will stick.
[–]five10manlet 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
lol mods removed the post, of course