Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY Times

Haloisi · 2020-01-18T08:46:28+00:00

And here we are, 40 year later, and "if you have sex, you agree to have children" is still 100% acceptable if it's about a man, and not if it's about women. The reproductive choices of men who at some point want a child run on condoms, trust and hopes.

mtcapri · 2020-01-18T01:13:48+00:00

Props to u/Oncefa2 for making me aware of this in his excellent post.

mewacketergi · 2020-01-18T13:45:16+00:00

She was one of the very few feminists who actually cared about the equal rights an opportunities, a shame she wasn't more prominent.

EDIT: Here's an article about her: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/the-now-president-who-became-a-mens-rights-activist/372742/

mtcapri · 2020-01-18T08:46:16+00:00

I have to confess I haven't looked too much yet into legal paternal surrender, not enough to have a conclusive opinion about whether and how such a thing could work in the real world. Intuitively it does make sense from an equality standpoint, but since nowadays it seems like the sort of thing that gets you branded as a hateful misogynist incel for even contemplating, (as well as a child-hating degenerate deadbeat from the conservative right!) I must admit I tend to be careful about it.

However, looking at her wikipedia page, this woman is the kind of feminist that I imagined feminists to be when I was growing up as a teenager and I did not know much about it except "feminism = equality". If all prominent feminists had such openmindedness and a "two-way street" view of equality, then I would proudly wear "this is a feminist" t-shirts and would probably not feel the need to be on a male advocacy forum. Alas, words mean things, and synonyms they are not, at least not in the current day.

transgirltradwife · 2020-01-19T06:34:12+00:00

There are poor men, disproportionately black, sitting in prison right now because they’re unable to pay child support for children they never wanted in the first place

Banake · 2020-01-24T17:28:00+00:00

I read an interview with her on the book "Good Will Towards Men" by Jack Kammer. I recommend, I also discovered Suzanne Steinmetz on that book.

Title	Karen DeCrow advocates for legal paternal surrender in 1982 article for the NY Times
Author	mtcapri
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Date	January 18, 2020 1:12 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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