/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates should have a link to the /r/MensLib Resources for Men Guide in its sidebar and every men's issues advocate should know about it and be sharing it around

Dunkolunko · 2020-02-29T15:05:37+00:00

Or we could just copy the links to the ones we've vetted are not based on man blaming or feminist ideology/patriarchy theory and put them on this sub so we don't redirect people to the most anti-male men's issues sub around.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2020-03-01T13:51:44+00:00

But we don't hate men or view every problem men face as double secret misogyny.

serpentineeyelash · 2020-03-03T04:59:08+00:00

I have recently been telling users to assume good faith, and if you were any other user I might have told some posters in this thread to stop assuming bad faith. But you make me wonder why I'm bothering when you just openly admitted you're not here in good faith!

We were going to look at your list of resources and consider its merits, hell we probably still will. But our skepticism is going to be greatly increased now you've openly admitted to trolling us.

While I will continue promoting a norm of good faith toward other users, even toward other r/MensLib moderators, you as an individual have now well and truly waived the right to be taken seriously by anyone here.

The gender discourse is in a sad state when a self-admitted troll like yourself is running the only men's issues subreddit considered to have mainstream legitimacy. Your shameless abuses of the power that position gives you, and your apparent motivation of protecting damsels in distress above all else, is ironically a very traditional and very toxic masculinity.

SonnBaz · 2020-03-01T16:26:59+00:00

Yes lets get co-opted into the sphere of feminists who moderate their subs with Chinese level authoritarianism so they can pretend they're always right.

I never liked your movement from the first time I was linked to it. It would be a shame to lose this subreddit.

serpentineeyelash · 2020-03-02T07:14:53+00:00

One of the many things that has been on my to-do list for a while is to put together such a list of resources.

One of the reasons I haven't got around to it yet is because I share the concern mentioned by many others here - I'm not sure how to figure out which resources are truly about helping men. I certainly wouldn't want to refer any man to any organization that will treat him as a probable abuser, guilt him about his alleged privilege, or otherwise place an unwarranted level of individual blame on him for his problems.

When we do get around to it, we'll probably consider the existing resource lists on r/MensLib as well as on r/MensRights.

The MensRights list of resources is obviously shorter than your list (maybe partly due to being more focused on male victims rather than broader mental health type stuff). Otherwise, do you have any objection to the resources they promote? In other words, are there any items on the r/MensRights list that you would consider to be not genuinely helping men, and if so why?

(I will also be asking them what they think about your list.)

czerdec · 2020-03-02T13:45:30+00:00

Dude, you're like the Westboro Baptist Church and we're like gay soldiers burying our fallen friend.

Your presence is not universally welcomed.

Ciceros_Assassin · 2020-02-29T08:37:13+00:00

Look, we don't have to agree on everything to share resources that can help men in need, the thing we all want. Call it a gift on our part.

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