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Activism/SupportForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights22/03/21 10:23 PM
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Activism/SupportForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights13/09/20 09:36 AM
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DiscriminationForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights07/04/21 06:20 AM
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DiscriminationForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights05/04/21 08:06 PM
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misandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 08:10 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 05:39 PM
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FeminismForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights22/11/20 07:22 PM
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GeneralForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights19/12/24 06:37 PM
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misandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 08:40 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/24 07:30 PM
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Social IssuesForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights12/03/21 04:05 PM
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social issuesForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 07:31 AM
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MisandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/AntiFeminists30/05/22 08:35 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/21 02:35 PM
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misandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/21 08:40 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 10:49 AM
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progressForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 08:16 PM
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PSAForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/21 11:02 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 07:27 PM
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MisandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/AntiFeminists01/04/22 07:39 AM
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resourceForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/21 11:41 PM
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FeminismForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights12/02/22 11:03 PM
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DiscriminationForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights01/08/21 05:00 AM
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misandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 10:46 PM
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CMVForgetaboutthelonely/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 09:49 PM
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resourceForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/25 03:09 PM
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QuestionForgetaboutthelonely/r/AntiFeminists03/06/22 12:08 PM
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Activism/SupportForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights18/03/21 08:17 PM
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mediaForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 01:01 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/22 04:59 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 03:37 PM
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CMVForgetaboutthelonely/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 05:34 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/21 03:23 AM
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sexualityForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/20 11:39 PM
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HypocrisyForgetaboutthelonely/r/AntiFeminists23/05/22 09:15 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/21 06:32 AM
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progressForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 11:43 AM
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misandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/21 03:41 AM
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metaForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/21 08:34 PM
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progressForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 06:49 AM
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social issuesForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/21 07:33 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/23 03:13 AM
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Social IssuesForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights06/05/19 08:08 PM
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legal rightsForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/21 03:44 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/21 02:45 PM
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otherForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/21 03:03 AM
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progressForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/21 03:08 AM
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otherForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/21 01:13 PM
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social issuesForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/21 09:11 AM
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sexualityForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 04:33 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/21 06:52 PM
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FeminismForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights05/02/21 03:42 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/21 02:49 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 09:23 AM
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sexualityForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/21 01:27 PM
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misandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 01:21 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/22 08:03 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 01:06 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 03:53 AM
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articleForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 11:29 PM
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MetaForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/21 07:57 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/21 12:01 AM
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resourceForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/21 10:25 AM
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Feminism Caused ThisForgetaboutthelonely/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 05:07 AM
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masculinityForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/21 04:58 PM
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misandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 04:33 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 02:40 PM
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HypocrisyForgetaboutthelonely/r/AntiFeminists30/05/22 08:03 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 05:26 PM
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Feminism Caused ThisForgetaboutthelonely/r/AntiFeminists28/02/22 09:24 PM
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sexualityForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 07:35 AM
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humorForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/22 05:32 AM
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Anti-MRMForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights20/04/21 08:09 PM
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progressForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/21 10:17 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 07:11 PM
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social issuesForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 08:19 PM
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Anti-MRMForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights28/02/22 09:00 PM
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misandryForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 06:21 PM
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FeminismForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights12/06/21 05:41 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 11:11 PM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/22 10:16 PM
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Social IssuesForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights19/06/20 03:42 AM
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resourceForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/21 04:32 AM
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FeminismForgetaboutthelonely/r/MensRights17/02/21 07:23 PM
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social issuesForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/21 03:13 PM
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HypocrisyForgetaboutthelonely/r/AntiFeminists08/03/22 02:30 AM
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discussionForgetaboutthelonely/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/21 12:41 AM
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I’m surprised that no one in this thread is pointing out that the vast majority of Feminists are actually condemning the women flying to space with a dick shaped vessel. The problem is that we've been telling them for years that their ideology has become too performative and stuck in an ivory tower.
/r/MensRights17/04/25 11:11 PM
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Well. I'm no longer a mod either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 11:00 PM
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Feminist ideas are frequently debated, both within the movement and in broader society. Many feminists welcome discussions and critiques So then show me some critiques of the Duluth model or the works of Mary koss. Show me criticism of the idea of patriarchy. Y Feminists advocate for gender equality based on real historical and societal issues. Concerns about sexism, gender-based violence, and discrimination are backed by research and statistics, not conspiracy theories. You mean the same resear…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 07:18 PM
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Ok. Which ones aren't.
/r/MensRights02/04/25 07:01 PM
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According to the Cult Education Institute, there are specific warning signs to look out for when considering whether a group might be a cult. Cults are characterized by:2 Absolute authoritarianism without accountability Zero tolerance for criticism or questions Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a leg…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 06:57 PM
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So why then are you so focused on defending an inegalitarian cult?
/r/MensRights02/04/25 06:42 PM
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Anything to defend your doctrine.
/r/MensRights02/04/25 06:32 PM
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Male privilege in action
/r/MensRights29/03/25 08:59 PM
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Nope. It would be an egalitarian.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 08:23 PM
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Never cared to learn their name.
/r/MensRights25/03/25 07:02 AM
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I remember dealing with them a few years ago. They tried to brigade a few subs but we found out that it was largely just one dude with a bunch of sock puppet accounts.
/r/MensRights24/03/25 10:50 PM
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Not willing to sign up for their spam to read this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 09:36 PM
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And where has any of that been done or organized here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/25 11:05 PM
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It shows up to you as still there. You have to log off and view the comment like that or in an incognito window.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/25 03:15 AM
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Oh, I can see on your account. Several of your comments on the feminist sub are deleted. Try viewing your account from an incognito window.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/25 02:23 AM
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Then you must not know many women.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 11:11 PM
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Just figured I would check in to see how your posts are doing. This is the last comment you made that isn't deleted. Just an FYI.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/25 09:28 PM
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So it's fine for any guy to approach any woman at any time wanting to date her? You'll have to go tell women this. They don't seem to like it.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 08:37 PM
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That their standards aren't realistic. Like 70% of the women I dated before I met my fiancee wanted a stoic sugar daddy with a nice truck and their own house. Despite these women working part time at convenience stores and spending all their spare time watching big brother reruns. They want men who live up to patriarchal expectations without living up to any of them themselves.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 08:36 PM
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Go to therapy. Stop taking your personal gripes out on half the population.
/r/MensRights07/02/25 05:53 PM
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You're missing several hundred people in these comments doing the same thing to make any sort of argument of equivalence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 10:34 PM
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If it's not feminists then why are you facing so much backlash from them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 10:32 PM
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I see a lot more people there dismissing men's issues than anybody on either of the other subs. That alone should say a lot about how feminists are the problem for following a cult like doctrine that treats men as the source of all evil.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 10:31 PM
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He's literally currently talking with a guy who's victim blaming suicide victims and telling him that men should "walk away from patriarchy" to get help. How is that not some hateful bullshit?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 08:06 PM
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The fact that op posted this same thing to ask feminists only to get blasted for not following their dogma that women always have it worse and men are always at fault should be an example to everybody here where the problem actually lies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 07:11 PM
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"patriarchy" as it is presented is most often portrayed as a system built by men to benefit men and keep them at the top of the social hierarchy. I think its disingenuous to frame men as an oppressor class when 99% of us do not share in any sort of power. Particularly when you see historic accounts like most of the men in the first world war dying without the right to vote Patriarchy is just an apex fallacy that ignores the historic hardships and gender policing faced by men in order to paint us…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/25 10:38 PM
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Is that your best crayon muncher?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/25 02:30 AM
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"It would be vile to expect those women to simply be better people, to rewrite their personalities and keep perfect composure while I step on their toes, but this is exactly what they have always demanded of me." This is a good line that I think deserves more attention. Thank you for the wonderful read
/r/MensRights21/01/25 06:53 PM
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Check my profile. Men do not have equal protections under their rules..
/r/MensRights20/01/25 11:38 PM
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I agree! Over the years I've given out several calls to action regarding the exact issue op brings up. But every time it goes nowhere.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 11:33 PM
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And how many of them are here on this subreddit?
/r/MensRights20/01/25 11:26 PM
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So, no activism for Canadian men then?
/r/MensRights20/01/25 11:12 PM
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I've seen all the "sources" I'm waiting for any of it to translate Into tangible change. How does any of this affect my personal issues as an underprivileged Canadian man?
/r/MensRights20/01/25 10:28 PM
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And what real progress has been made? Like said. I've been here for ten plus years and I haven't seen an inch.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 10:05 PM
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Well no shit. Reddit does not offer equal protections to men and boys in its rules against hate. We could work to change this by emailing any business catering to men that pays for ad space on reddit. But that would take real activism. And in the ten plus years I've been doing this that hasn't happened because people here would rather just whine about mean shit feminists say online and pretend any change is futile due to the empathy gap. And instead of the inevitable downvotes y'all are going to…
/r/MensRights20/01/25 09:15 PM
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A few points. It's more than tweets. Why wouldn't they vote for him if people like you downplay misandry? When feminism has successfully pushed for systemic discrimination against men. Antifeminism is necessary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 06:58 PM
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Good luck inciting any meaningful action from this. I've been waiting for ten plus years for it. People are too busy whining about how futile it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/25 08:34 PM
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Inversely. The assumption that I as a man am uniquely privileged is a significant part of why many of my issues have gone unresolved. You can't help disadvantaged men if you believe men cannot by their nature be disadvantaged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/25 06:45 AM
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someone is generalizing the whole group of people based on experiences she's lacking then she's not the type of person you would want to converse with I would reply with essentially this. "If you're going to generalize 50% of the population based on experienced you've never had the you're not worth wasting my time chatting."
/r/MensRights16/01/25 05:03 PM
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On an international platform ? Will you send messages to French advertisers and elected representatives ? To Indian ones Yup. Why should they care about you ? They don't. Nobody does. Does that mean we should never try? mean, you are complaining that you don't see enough boycotting done in reddit posts ?... be serious. If I saw a product or policy that was backed by misandrist policies I would.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 08:47 PM
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Also, I know we are online (and very few), but I think there are a lot of things we can be able to do, starting from fundraisers. Maybe this is not the ideal space to do this but, as progressive male advocates, we need to do this THANK YOU!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 07:30 PM
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Thank you for useless snark.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 06:18 PM
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Send emails to advertisers. Send emails to government representatives. Print off and post flyers. Donate to people actually doing the work. Volunteer with local organizations or participate in mutual aid efforts Boycott products, services, and companies whose values DON’T align with yours Write letters, send faxes, tweet, or call local and federal politicians Half of these were from a five second Google search..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 05:20 PM
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I would like to ensure that I'm not wasting my time tbh. Every time I've tried it comes to nothing because people couldn't be bothered to do something as small as sending an email. I'm not going to waste my time and energy on a community that's too pessimistic to want to try making things better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 04:09 PM
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I have done so. For years. Nothing ends up happening each time..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 04:02 PM
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I've been in this sub since it was made. I've given examples and calls to action over the years since the subs inception. All have fallen flat Refusing to take action before we've even entertained the idea is why that happens I don't need to be a victim of domestic violence to want to help other victims. I don't need to understand every detail of how to recognize that shit seems kind of unfair. We have members all over? Keep our activism online. When I was the only American helping dudes in Indi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 03:13 PM
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The article actually does account for neutral people. But I agree that we need campaigns, strategy and goals. But that requires people to follow suit instead of immediately dismissing these things as impossible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 02:03 PM
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Keyboard Warriors who only talk about the problems but don't try to fix them or seek solutions. Exactly my issue. People are so overwhelmed with pessimistic malaise that they won't do anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 01:54 PM
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Complaining about a problem without offering a solution is nothing but whining.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 01:46 PM
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There's no one size fits all answer to this. For one example. On a smaller scale. Reddit as a website does not give boys and men equal protection against hate in their rules. We can combat this by informing those that pay for ads on the site of the hateful shit their ads will be featured next to. Particularly ads targeted at a male demographic. This was done during gamergate and it was fairly effective IMHO. We could also protest in the form of simple civil disobedience. Why should we comply wit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 08:06 AM
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In that case I have no idea how your comment is relevant to the post tbh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 07:50 AM
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Those people are going to be upset regardless. So why are we focusing on changing them and not protecting yourself?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 07:36 AM
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Read the article first and foremost. Once that's done. What's an issue you would like to tackle?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 07:33 AM
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Not a single comment. See what I'm saying?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 05:43 AM
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There was a ton of conversation about this after Trump won the election. A lot of men are moving right because the left isn't speaking to us. I say this as a staunch punk lefty. But they have a point. More and more men are recognizing that the feminist notion that men are dangerous patriarchal oppressors who have so much privilege that we face no real problems. Is just blatantly wrong. And based more on ideological dogma than any lived reality. I've had people shut down and jump to accusing me o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/25 08:57 PM
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Edit This dude is actually stroking his cock to the fact that he banned me. What a freak Oh no. You made me bust too early bro. All over my Dorito stained waifu mousepad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 05:27 AM
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feminists. And most of the backlash we face is due to being associated with the rest of the LGBT who have made very bad moves for themselves. Uh huh. But gay men have never been uniquely hated. /S
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 05:25 AM
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You are the establishment. You banned me for rocking the boat One person. One random stranger with a position of power has removed your ability to have discourse about these issues. Completely on a whim. You have no say, no recourse, no power. Sucks, doesn't it? But that's the problem with online discourse. You do have a choice though, I'm GIVING you an out. How the fuck would I know if you came back with an alt account? You have the ability to fight back. To make your voice heard. But you choos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 05:24 AM
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You think gay men didn't face any backlash? You do know pride parades started as protests/riots right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 04:53 AM
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You know for a fact that circumventing a subreddit ban on an alt will lead to an ip ban for me Still hasn't happened for me. Been doing it for years now. But you wouldn't know that because you're too afraid to rock the boat. And even when they do it's as easy as using a VPN and a throwaway email service and Im right back with five new accounts. I have about 50 or so on a Google doc for backups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 02:20 AM
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Thetinmen has a lot of great stuff. All it would take is condensing one or two of his more popular posts into something flyer sized. Utilizing QR codes that lead to longer more informative posts would be excellent as well. I actually just gave a link to the flyers that introduced me to the men's movement https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.1353362 As for topics. I think we should focus on facts that are hard to refute. One I've found very pertinent and popular is that the stats around rape are heavily skew…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 02:12 AM
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I apologize for the cynicism. It's frustrating to see so many opportunities for change fall flat because people are too afraid of losing something that can be replaced tomorrow..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 02:06 AM
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I don't disagree with most of what you're saying. And I understand the value in raising awareness of what these issues look like. But the people that are here are already likely sympathetic to what we have to say. How many other subreddits about similar issues have you had your view changed by? Would you have even found this community if you weren't already looking for communities of its sort? The only reason I found the men's advocacy groups was because the ones in my area put up flyers that go…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 02:04 AM
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Use them how? Is it their job to find you a relationship?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 01:22 AM
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And you ended up learning a valuable lesson on the problems with "discourse" in online forums. It won't actually get you anywhere. Nobody is going to listen to you that doesn't already somewhat agree. And finally, whatever conversations happen do so at the whims of a handful of people in positions of power. If you really want to be heard and acknowledged. You have to be ready to break some rules and rock the boat. You would do well to keep this in mind moving forward But feel free to come back w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 01:02 AM
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trans activists have taken the route on laws before acceptance. That is not a road we want to go down as we are seeing the backlash that that has caused. And they've still changed laws. And acceptance followed. The backlash is inevitable. It has happened for every group it happened for feminists. It happened for trans people. It will happen for us. How many laws have we changed this way so far? The men's movement has been around since the 70s. So there should be a few examples right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 12:39 AM
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Why would people think that their issues will be addressed if they sit and whine on the internet without actually doing any activism? What do they think feminists are saying when they say that mens groups aren't actually doing anything for men. They're just whining about feminism?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 12:33 AM
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No, I mean why do you think that there's so few posts regarding actual activism when it's the one thing that will actually combat the issues we talk about here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 12:10 AM
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You were banned for trying to start arguments about ideological purity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 12:08 AM
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And I've approved it 😁
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 12:04 AM
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And why do you think that is?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 12:03 AM
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So I'll ask you this. What about this sub cannot be re-created elsewhere? I've seen groups like this in almost every social media platform I've been on. I understand that it's a great resource. And I'm not directly advocating to go get it banned. But you cannot make an omelette without breaking some eggs. They cannot delete us. They cannot delete the information we have. Particularly if we archive it elsewhere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 11:43 PM
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Of course they were. Feminism in that era was for upper class white womens rights only.
/r/MensRights11/01/25 11:38 PM
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About 20-45% of men commit some kind of violence against women in their lives, depending on what part of the world you're in. Can you cite your source for this? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/ Because according to this it's less than 1% of the population. Male victims are counted actually. It just happens that most of the perpetrators there are also male. Why is it difficult to believe that maybe men just rape more? Only male victims who were penetrated. Rape according to these…
/r/MensRights11/01/25 11:34 PM
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I was here shortly after the sub was created. And when the creator went inactive I took over and made sure that the community didn't devolve into a misogynistic cesspool. It was never solely for discourse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 11:31 PM
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It's not really that simple. These things take time and effort. It's hard to get decent active mods in general. No less ones that are willing to go the extra mile
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 11:29 PM
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Their post has been stickied for the week as an event. If it takes off I'll happily extend it. And I agree with your suggestion. If you wanted to make a post organizing such a list and asking for suggestions I would be more than happy to promote it and add said list to the sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 11:26 PM
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I personally would love to see more conversations on that topic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 10:04 PM
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All great questions. I feel you may be better served making this a post of it's own though. This kind of question is how activism starts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 08:59 PM
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Initially we had a lot of issues with low effort rage bait that didn't start any kind of conversations. That's why those rules are in place. All you really need is a paragraph or two of text to start conversations. If posts are getting removed for not being full essays then that rule may have slipped in my absence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 08:56 PM
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What percentage of men? And how are you defining violence? We have stats that say that men commit 99% of rape. This isn't because men do. But because female perpetrators and male victims aren't counted.
/r/MensRights11/01/25 08:30 PM
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Your post/comment was removed, because it contained a personal attack on another user. Please try to keep your contributions civil. Attack the idea rather than the individual, and default to the assumption that the other person is engaging in good faith. If you disagree with this ruling, please appeal by messaging the moderators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 08:25 PM
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By nature of being men, yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 08:23 PM
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It's public information. Go do some research. It's not my job to educate you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 08:20 PM
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You're the one who brought them up. Did you not do your research? EDIT: disregard this. I realize you're not the Op of this comment chain.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 08:13 PM
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Why did they get the interview in the first place?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 08:03 PM
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I've been here from the start. I'm not trying to change anything. I'm trying to get things to work the way they were meant to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 07:56 PM
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Excuses. I've organized smaller groups from farther corners of the earth. I've been the only North American in discord groups organizing against MGM in places like India and Thailand. There is no reason we cannot do the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 07:55 PM
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Considering I haven't been here for that long you're not doing much. Keep going. It's all there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 07:52 PM
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I Don't. Yet several of you assumed as much and jumped on me. That's the issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 07:24 PM
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On mobile Copying this from another comment until I can give more. Over the years I've suggested protests. Simple things we could do online like emailing the people paying for ads on reddit to show them how the admins do not give men and boys the same protections under their rules. Things like organizing blackouts and simple civil disobedience. And that's just for this platform where we have enough people to have some semblance of a voice. I've brought up groups like CAFE and tried to do fundrai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 07:22 PM
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This is why this movement gets nowhere. Anybody who's willing to actually do anything must actually be an evil Republican. Anybody who's critical of the left must actually be trump himself. I'm Canadian. I'm a fucking founder of this sub and I've been further left than most of the people around me throughout my adult life. I'm the black sheep of my conservative family because I'm willing to tell them that nurses and teachers do deserve a living wage and that the fact that they're wealthy enough …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:44 PM
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I've tried. throwaway" subs where the purpose is specifically vocal activism that are okay to be banned if it comes down to it? I have. As soon as they get any kind of following the rest of the mods shut anything down because they're too afraid of the same thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:42 PM
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Then what changes do we want to see and how will we go about enacting them? EDIT: the lack of response is telling.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:40 PM
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And do you have any examples of that happening here? I haven't seen any, and the ones I suggest are shot down. that's my problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:39 PM
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Look at how many people are subscribed. It’s not many at all. All the more reason to not be so scared of the sub getting banned for standing up for men and boys. I didn’t subscribe to be an activist online. I did. Because the issues I advocate for are the ones I've been personally affected by. Im Canadian. In real life, I worked at a place called the mustard seed, which created a rehab for homeless men (men only) which gave them back a life. It was incredibly successful, and I try to support and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:38 PM
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I have been. Nobody's been following. Take a look at my profile. You'll see several attempts the more you scroll. The first of which is the men are human post you'll see stickied. Put a lot of work into that only to have it falter due to a lack of effort.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:34 PM
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Approved and stickied as a week long event. Glad to see some real activism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:18 PM
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am I understanding you correctly that you have attempted to provide real life avenues for activism to the people in this sub and the mod team has prevented you from doing so? Essentially yes. Over the years I've suggested protests. Simple things we could do online like emailing the people paying for ads on reddit to show them how the admins do not give men and boys the same protections under their rules. Things like organizing blackouts and simple civil disobedience. And that's just for this pla…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:13 PM
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I've seen protests and etc organized on /r/antiwork. Look at all that was happening there before that infamous dog walker mod did that interview and made everybody there look like fools because they let their status as a mod go to their head. In fact I'm seeing a bit of a pattern here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 05:58 PM
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This is why this movement isn't getting anywhere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 05:55 PM
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I've seen numerous activist subreddits. I've watched protests be organized on this site. In my local communities. The platform works. The people on it don't want to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 05:10 PM
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Hell yeah! My style is closer to metalhead/goth but my political outlook and activism is deeply inspired by punk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 05:07 PM
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And what makes them reactionary? I've seen that defined as them not wanting to do any activism and only wanting to react to what feminists say online. How are we any different?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 04:36 PM
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Like said. Make the post and it'll be stickied.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 04:33 PM
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Excellent! This is what I'm looking for. If you make a post I'll be sure to sticky it! Though the times we've tried fundraising before never really went anywhere. A lot of men here are underprivileged so it makes sense that there wouldn't be a lot of money to throw around. What can we do if we cannot donate?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 04:19 PM
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I do tend to describe myself as a "punk lefty" irl. I think you may have a point here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 04:11 PM
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Did that when I took a few years off. Did a lot of drugs. Did a lot of therapy. I'm not seeing any resources pop up here. Largely because resources aren't tied to personal growth. EDIT: this also promotes the idea that mens issues are only ever personal and not systemic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 04:02 PM
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The issue IMHO is that We've been doing that for longer than some of our new members have been alive. With no light at the end of the tunnel because seeing that requires that we actually walk down said tunnel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 04:01 PM
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If we don't have resources. How should we go about getting them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 03:57 PM
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So we reported a sub that was likely already breaking the rules of reddit and it got removed. What's next?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 03:43 PM
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So what sets this community apart from others? Why is this the only place on the entirety of the internet where you can do that? I took a few years off reddit. I found several such spaces. Irl and online.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 03:34 PM
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If only there was some sort of online community where these things could be organized.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 03:32 PM
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And another "That won't work, society hates men," I've heard it all before.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 03:31 PM
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So feel free to be critical, but don't give feminists saying that shit any legitimacy as you do it. Then show me some real activism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 03:18 PM
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I fully agree. With everything you've said. You're the kind of person mens advocates should aim to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 03:02 PM
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Your post/comment was removed, because you're a stinky little bitch boy who probably spends his whole day making love to his own hand. If you disagree with this ruling, please appeal by messaging the moderators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:57 AM
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Said the weakest little bitch in the sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 06:56 AM
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Because in their dogma all misandry is actually misogyny. It's why they pushed for the Duluth model as a batterer intervention program. The Duluth model states that men abuse women because we're entitled to do so through patriarchy. And women who abuse men only do so in self defence. This to them is misogyny because their own system pushed the notion that women are helpless children who can't help themselves. Men however cannot be harmed by this as the patriarchy gives us magical invulnerability…
/r/MensRights10/01/25 08:46 PM
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Ahh. Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 08:06 PM
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Oh Im not saying I agree with them. But this is the basis for toxic masculinity that feminists are missing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 06:49 PM
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Oh, I can't stand how they'll do that. You can point out countless examples of feminists being outright misandrists and all the ways feminist theory has been used as a cudgel to harm men. But because it's not in the feminism Bible their gender studies professor gave them it's not "true feminism"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 03:44 PM
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Ignoring that Erin pizzey. The woman behind the world's first shelter. Was chased from her home and country by feminists sending her bomb threats because she advocated that men needed them too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 03:24 PM
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How do men do that if there's no awareness that these problems exist?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 01:02 AM
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If they hate men, they hate us ALL. This needs to be repeated. people seem to have this idea that misandry only hurts Andrew Tate fans and Ceo's. But it hurts ALL of us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/25 12:36 AM
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Exactly my point. Whenever a man does something it's the fault of all men. But if feminist institutions do awful sexist shit that affect men on a nationwide scale they're suddenly not true feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 10:30 PM
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Same!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 10:04 PM
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And their use of the term was in opposition to "deep masculinity" which the movement felt had been replaced by "toxic masculinity" The movement seeks to restore the "deep masculine" to men who have lost it in their more modern lifestyles.[9] Other causes claimed by advocates for the loss of the "deep masculine" include: Men no longer being comrades who celebrated their masculinity together. Rather, they had become competitors within their workplaces. Men spending more time in their houses with w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 09:57 PM
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They were lightly associated. But only in the same way as most men's advocacy groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 07:47 PM
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Agreed. They're feminists. If all men's advocates are going to be held accountable for unrelated fucks like Andrew Tate. Then all feminists should take responsibility for the bad ones or stop Identifying as such.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 07:38 PM
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This person has no understanding of where the term toxic masculinity originated. They should do some studying since their fellow feminists are using it completely wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 05:20 PM
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I'm engaged to a wonderful woman lol..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 12:54 AM
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Frankly. Why should we care when these people are welcomed to do the same? If the reddit TOS /rules do not offer equal protection to men from hate. then we have no reason to follow them.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/01/25 05:33 PM
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Check my profile. Reddit allows this.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/01/25 05:27 PM
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This was reported as hate. But unfortunately being a feminist is not an immutable characteristic. It's a choice. And if the feminist that likely reported it sees this. I hope they can understand that they can choose not to support hate if they don't want to be categorized as being hateful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/25 04:19 AM
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the misandry I was subjected to was no different than the homophobia I was subjected to. This kind of thing requires you to unapologetically reject certain mainstream ideas feminists have normalized, such as it's okay to be sexist against men because they are privileged, etc. My own experiences being a pansexual man mirror this. The biggest promoters of gender roles for men have been feminists. IMHO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/25 09:15 PM
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Do you endorse porn Sure. I used to have my own onlyfans. But men aren't really desired for our sexuality like women. prostitution Not entirely. I don't care if others make that choice. But I personally think that consent gets way too murky when you're paying for it. surrogacy Sure. People should have that choice. Thoughts about the typical division of labor I've never personally had an issue with doing housework. If so many women are choosing men who don't want to then IMHO that's on them. abse…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/25 09:12 PM
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I have a pet theory that many feminist trolls are Russian bots. The establishments and institutions already agree with their shitty often hateful rhetoric. So they would inherently dodge a lot of suspicion. And then it's as easy as just jumping into any discussion to push people to despise and distrust them as these aforementioned institutions contort themselves and twist their own rules to allow it. Just look at how many feminist concern trolls end up with deleted accounts. You can see on my pr…
/r/MensRights04/01/25 05:52 PM
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You could ask around here. There's likely to be a few.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/25 02:06 AM
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I don't remember him being banned but I wasn't on reddit at that point. They're free to message me if they want that changed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/24 07:08 PM
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Here's some research that may help .https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10135558/ It is estimated that the help and support for male victims is over 20 years behind that of female victims [20]. Furthermore, male victims have fewer resources and greater stigma with female sexual assault victims https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4062022/ We concluded that federal surveys detect a high prevalence of sexual victimization among men—in many circumstances similar to the prevalence found amo…
/r/MensRights31/12/24 01:49 AM
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Not banned iirc. They had a disagreement with some of the mods a few years back and stopped participating here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/24 07:16 PM
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Absolutely. There's money to be made in radicalizing young men.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 01:14 AM
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So you deleted all your comments because you got proven wrong. Where's all that fire you just had? That conviction? Have you actually changed your view or do you just not want to recognize that you were wrong about so many things?
/r/MensRights29/12/24 08:28 PM
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The stats you cited exclude male victims of female perpetrators. Haven't you read how they define rape " Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim." Men being made to penetrate isn't counted as rape due to the work of feminist academics like Mary P Koss. And when women force themselves on men they don't magically grow a penis to penetrate these men. If you want to …
/r/MensRights29/12/24 06:49 PM
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Why did you set it up this way then? You're a man right? Undo it if it bothers you so much.
/r/MensRights29/12/24 06:37 PM
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Do yourself a favor and read the full comment before spitting back with unrelated drivel. Are you a man? If so why did you set up these systems that hurt us?
/r/MensRights29/12/24 06:36 PM
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Why are you here pushing false or misleading stats that exclude male victims of rape? Do you really hate men that much? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10135558/ It is estimated that the help and support for male victims is over 20 years behind that of female victims [20]. Furthermore, male victims have fewer resources and greater stigma with female sexual assault victims https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4062022/ We concluded that federal surveys detect a high prevalence of sexu…
/r/MensRights29/12/24 06:31 PM
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When similar stats are paraded around by white supremacists about minorities. We as lefties tend to recognize that it's wrong to demean and dismiss an entire demographic based on such numbers. Because we understand that there are issues like systemic racism. Over policing of minority communities. And generational poverty. And yet here you are making the same judgements about a bigger group of people without any of the nuance. So already I know you're here in bad faith to be a misandrist. Like of…
/r/MensRights29/12/24 06:25 PM
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Trans women are women. TERF'S think they're not. They believe that they're men trying to invade women's spaces. That's why they hate them. They hate men that much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/24 04:46 PM
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So crimes don't count when they're committed by people with similar traits to you?
/r/MensRights28/12/24 11:13 PM
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There's also a lot more of them than there are CEO'S
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/24 07:20 PM
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Oh absolutely. It's the same reason they'll cite the same misleading statistics as white supremacists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/24 07:17 PM
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I checked. It literally did get removed. But we're supposedly the toxic ones.
/r/MensRights28/12/24 05:51 PM
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Because it likely got removed.
/r/MensRights28/12/24 05:37 PM
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Bro hasn't even done the five minutes of research into feminist history. Why are you even here?
/r/MensRights28/12/24 05:35 PM
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I believe that anybody who makes a judgement about an individual based on what group they belong to has biases that need to be addressed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 10:59 PM
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Yeah. It kinda does. That privilege rhetoric is what keeps men like me from actually getting help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 10:50 PM
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She did. Men aren't inherently privileged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 10:46 PM
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To me somebody hating me for the way I was born would be a red flag. But you do you I guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 10:36 PM
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Look at the pinned post on my profile. The reddit admins are complicit in this. They're very transparent about NOT protecting men and boys against hate in their rules. Reddit allows misandry.
/r/MensRights27/12/24 09:33 PM
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They share many of the same core beliefs at the end of the day. One group just uses it to be shitty towards the wrong groups instead of just being shitty towards men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 08:38 PM
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Can confirm as a guy that's fucked both. Guys are WAY better at sucking dick.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 07:01 PM
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Oh yeah. It's incredibly unhealthy in any capacity. I don't understand why people would put ideological dogma before their own well-being.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 05:56 PM
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Why would you date a misandrist TERF?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 05:32 PM
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The issue is that people will do their best to draw a line between TERFS and feminists. I've seen comments today wherein people said outright that TERFS aren't feminists. Because in their eyes feminists can do no wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 04:34 PM
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Do you have an understanding of the history of suffrage? It wasn't just a matter of "all men could vote and then women fought for the right to do the same" Initially only the wealthy land owners could vote. Wealthy woman were often included in this but it depended on the place and laws. Most men didn't have that right/privilege either. That's why most men who died in the first world war didn't have the right to vote. But unfortunately feminists who make their entire careers on creating women's i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/24 06:38 PM
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Most of the men who died in the trenches in the first world war did so without having the right to vote. Why did they have to die for it while you only had to "fight"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/24 05:30 PM
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I would agree with this take also. We have a long held history of gender roles that are fairly harmful for both men and women. But it's not some evil conspiracy by men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/24 05:12 PM
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Very good idea! I think I'll pin this as an event for the next week or so. Make sure it has an audience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/24 04:44 PM
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It's all good! I kinda figured that was the case but I felt the need to check.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/24 11:06 PM
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Men have real issues that deserve to be heard and addressed.
/r/MensRights23/12/24 09:33 PM
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Just one correction. I know you're not talking specifically about my fiancee. But we're it her starting a fight she would more than likely be the one trying to end it. She just had no idea how "on guard" I am when we're out together
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/24 07:53 PM
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You'd have to ask the mods. They never gave me a reason
/r/MensRights20/12/24 04:29 PM
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Lmao same.
/r/MensRights19/12/24 09:28 PM
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So. Again. A male victim of rape. Is forced. By threat of jail time. To pay child support to their rapist Do you think these men have that money just lying around? How do you think they have to get it? And have you ever heard of "indentured servitude"?
/r/MensRights19/12/24 08:21 PM
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You're the one trying to dismiss male victims of rape being forced to pay child support to their rapists with some zero sum argument about how womens problems are worse.
/r/MensRights19/12/24 08:15 PM
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You think these 17 year old rape victims are going to their kushy CEO jobs because of their male privilege? No. They're more than likely doing part time retail work which will already barely pay them enough to live no less pay child support to their rapists. Or they'll do body destroying labor or trades work. Trust me as somebody who was born a neurodivergent man. We don't get the good desk jobs just because we're men.
/r/MensRights19/12/24 08:10 PM
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Ah, you see equality as a finite pie, while I do not. Equality is boundless, limitless
/r/MensRights19/12/24 08:07 PM
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You're the one who's dismissing my Initial image with an unrelated issue women in the US have. And now you're saying that I'm the one who sees equality as a zero sum concept? And how other than slavery would you define it when an 18 year old boy is forced to work on the threat of imprisonment to pay money to his rapist for the child of his rape?
/r/MensRights19/12/24 07:59 PM
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Male victims of rape have been forced by law to pay child support to their rapists. This happened long before woe v wade was repealed. So why are you only focusing one one account of this sort of situation?
/r/MensRights19/12/24 07:54 PM
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Hate against men is hate against them too
/r/MensRights19/12/24 07:43 PM
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It's amazing tbh. Brilliant work!
/r/MensRights19/12/24 07:10 PM
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These are admins. And yes. This is feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/24 04:45 PM
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That's literally what this post is about bruh.
/r/MensRights17/12/24 04:50 PM
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Feminism pushed for the Duluth model and for male victims of rape to be excluded from statistics. And you're worried about 1% 42 Million out of around 4 billion men. That's miniscule.
/r/MensRights17/12/24 03:48 PM
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What percentage of men commit those crimes? Because last I looked it's less than 1% so why are you generalizing all men based on that?
/r/MensRights17/12/24 03:41 PM
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The website in general
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/24 03:31 PM
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I think there can be common ground. Most of what you say here is reasonable. The main issues I have with feminists is a distinct lack of willingness to recognize and condemn the worst parts of their own movement. Feminism as a movement has pushed for a lot of outright sexist policies and legislation. Things like the Duluth model come to mind. As long as you're willing to do the work and be ousted by other feminists for calling these things out. I can see common ground.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 04:47 PM
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If feminists want to dismiss mens criticism of their hate movement by pointing to bell hooks. Then they should start by educating other feminists on her work first. Until then men are right to criticize their hate movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/24 08:19 PM
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Still better than denying everything and abusing anybody who brings it up
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/24 03:38 PM
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Have you visited "name the problem"??
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/24 03:32 PM
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At least they acknowledge those issues
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/24 04:57 PM
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Oh, I meant if you have a link to any advertisers I could send it too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/24 12:59 AM
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If you have a link I would gladly do the same
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 09:50 PM
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Good to see you. I hope you're doing well
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 08:32 PM
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Tbh I took a break in that time from reddit so I've got no clue (coincidentally my life improved a thousandfold) But if it has changed they're free to correct it and make reparations. Until then I'll treat this as fact
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 07:22 PM
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Exactly. And IMHO. Part of it is letting these things interact in complementary ways. Just look at the YouTube algorithm and right wing content creators. One of the main things they do is just point out unhinged shit from people on the left. And because people on the left would rather deny the humanity of half the population than letting the right have a point. They end up doing the work for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 07:20 PM
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Seeing as im the one who took this picture three years ago. I give you and anybody else full permission to spread this around at will
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 07:07 PM
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It's probably not too on the nose. But all you really have to do is appeal to their sense of moral superiority and you can lead them like sheep.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 06:44 PM
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Political dissent and polarization. People have this concept that things like Russian bot farms are dedicated solely to spreading misinformation and etc to specifically right wing audiences. Because they have this mindset that people on the left wouldn't fall for it. Because they're too "pure and morally correct" But we are human too. And just as susceptible to propaganda. And why wouldn't those entities play both sides for maximum efficiency?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 06:40 PM
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That's IMHO because they welcome such hate. There's money to be made in pushing young men to right wing radicalization. And I'll bet that the admins enjoy some nice "bonuses" from the entities that would put a price on such things... Remember foreign bot farms aren't just parroting right wing propaganda. They're playing both sides to sew division
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 06:25 PM
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These are reddit admins. The paid staff for the website itself. They know what they're doing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 06:05 PM
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Excellent video. Explains this issue entirely
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/24 05:58 PM
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A man from earth DM'ed me and the issue was solved in like a day my dude. Communication is important.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 01:50 AM
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Well said. One of the big issues with feminist discourse about men is that it's often prescriptive rather than communicative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 01:19 AM
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the fact that even mens lib , a feminist space has seen situations where feminism lacks to the point that they claimed their sub isnt a safe space for male victims of domestic violence and sexual abuse proves that I really wish more people knew about that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 11:20 PM
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Because masculinity is neither inherently positive or negative? And the performance of masculine identity varies so vastly between individuals that there's no way to prescribe a single "positive masculinity" without placing confining roles onto others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 11:12 PM
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Describe what you are under the impression feminism is about. Can I step in to answer? Feminist theory and underlying beliefs Because the foundational views of feminism and it's most influential advocates are anti-male in their nature. All forms of Feminism hold the following premises as self-evident: Society is Male Dominated Male dominance privileges men over women While some men can sometimes be harmed by this system, the system itself is set up to privilege men and subjugate women for mens e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 11:08 PM
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I haven't been here. Not been on reddit at all recently TBH. So when I checked on the sub and saw that it was all but abandoned with no new posts and all the goodbye posts from the old mods. I figured that the sub had been abandoned for the new site.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/23 04:33 PM
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I haven't even been here and I'm one of the core reasons this community exists but aight.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/23 04:31 PM
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I think I'd technically be the next in line after serpentineeyelash. I got privileges from the admins when the sub was brand new and they dipped out. I've all but stopped using reddit. Too much going on in my life. But I'm happy to leave things to you for a bit to rebuild a mod team. Also I stickied a comment explaining the restricting the sub. Honest mistake on my part lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/23 12:13 AM
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I apologize. I set it to private. I'll admit I've not been active on reddit at all. And with the context I had gathered it looked as though the sub had been essentially abandoned for the new site. Honest mistake. I've already invited /u/thetinmenblog to be a moderator with full permissions and they have my blessing to bring on a new moderation team. I'll admit I don't plan on being very active if at all. So if people think I should just step down I'll do so lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/23 12:08 AM
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Fair. But it's not my fault that this is happening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/23 07:00 PM
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Not sure how they got "I'm choosing to date only trans girls" out of "I've pretty much only been dating trans girls because cisgender girls still expect me to make all the effort and pay for everything in the relationship. And the trans girls I've dated have largely treated me more respectfully.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/23 05:53 PM
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I mean. That's like me saying a woman I knew once offered to have sex with me and I wasn't into her so I'm gay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/23 05:52 AM
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Have you ever tried?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/23 04:26 AM
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Oh yeah. I've had a mixed experience with some enjoying using it and openly joking about having one to some not wanting it touched. Ive enjoyed both because they've all communicated their preferences
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/23 09:41 PM
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No. I fully understand that sexuality is not something that can be forced. But I do think it's a lot more fluid and flexible than most people know.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/23 03:02 PM
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You may be surprised.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/23 02:10 PM
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Why live by a standard you yourself didn't set right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/23 06:47 AM
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Yeah, I've also been finding out that if one were to make a venn diagram of "people into polyamory" and "LGBTQ+ groups" it would practically just be a circle. And yeah. I definitely agree that this is largely due to people in those groups spending a lot more time meditating on our sexuality and sexual identity. I know I have lmao. Whereas most people I know who have kind of swallowed that "cultural default" are more and more finding out how much of their sexuality has been repressed. Seriously, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 10:45 PM
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Now, I'm speaking from my own experiences. if you're still looking. There's a lot of cute and lonely transgender women out there. and so far my experience with the ones I've dated have really echoed that same experience you enjoyed. And I don't want to get into semantics or whatever BS about genitals or whatnot. But you don't need to enjoy dick to enjoy fucking somebody who has one. Genuinely. I was a bit freaked out at first. And I was definitely hesitant with every step I've taken in exploring…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 10:30 PM
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I'd gladly post my thoughts if you think it could make people happy. Would you say this post as it is or is there any specific aspects you think they'd want me to delve into? I've checked out the mtfashion sub, though I'll be honest I'm generally very masc presenting both in frame and overall aesthetic. And I just straight up don't like myself in overly feminine outfits. But I've been absolutely diving into more nonbinary/androgynous aesthetics if you have any good communities for that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 10:22 PM
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Well. I don't think sexuality can be forced. I do think it's a lot more fluid and flexible than people wanna admit. And there's a lot more internalized societal pressure to keep things "straight" than people realize. And I genuinely advocate for people to consider their interests and be open about exploring their sexuality. But telling dudes "just learn to like dick" isn't really going to fix anything. What I do think would be most beneficial as a message to men would be something more along the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 10:12 PM
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Bingo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 07:56 PM
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Perhaps. My choice of identification stems primarily from not wishing to be defined by the metrics of others. The effects and treatment are just something I've noticed as an aftereffect
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 07:40 PM
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I noticed that when googling it lmao 🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 07:39 PM
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Bruh, literally that's how it's been feeling. Like so many cis women wouldn't even entertain the idea of just cuddling and watching YouTube together If I didn't float the idea that i was also going to dedicate myself to working for her so she could be a stay at home wife and take care of our nonexistent children.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 07:34 PM
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????
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 06:15 PM
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Or trans women!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 05:48 PM
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It's actually based on a chant from this feminist Protest of Warren Farrell at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx5x0Ztffm4
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 05:47 PM
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It's not so much "rich" as it's a cultural thing. The big truck is kind of a status symbol to indicate "this is a hard workin man who drives a hard workin truck" or some bullshit like that. But more so it's a means to indicate that the man in question can fulfill the provider role demanded of the male gender. But what people don't seem to get is that when that's the ONLY metric you're judged by. It's immediately and thoroughly dehumanizing. But here's another "lesson" that's moreso been reinforc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/23 05:33 PM
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Then it only serves to illustrate the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/23 03:00 AM
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Men tend to socialize and deal with issues differently to women. I don't think that there's anything wrong with how men socialize. I think that the world has made male socializing into a problem. There's the death of the third space and diversification of the workforce. (Which is generally not a bad thing but try making friends at your job If you don't even work with people who share a language)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/23 07:04 AM
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Call them out for being a TERF. call them out for promoting transphobia by reinforcing TERF rhetoric.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/23 02:13 PM
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That statistic was written by Mary P Koss. A feminist professor who doesn't believe men can be raped.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/23 02:13 PM
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I agree. I think it's less about fitted clothes and more about clothes that just aren't I'll fitted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/23 10:41 AM
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You can also specifically look up where he gave his reasoning as not wanting those evil MRA'S to have reason to bash feminism.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 03:03 AM
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This doesn't really change the fact that this has been an ongoing issue for several pages.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 02:40 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_Eppstein&oldid=979254267#Koss
/r/MensRights18/04/23 11:46 PM
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Bro it's already happening lmao. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_Eppstein&oldid=979254267#Koss
/r/MensRights18/04/23 11:45 PM
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they ve done an equally horrible job at reaching out to the prior dominant group and giving them a voice, which is men" I disagree with this notion for the simple fact that "Men" as a group were never "dominant" it's that kind of generalizing rhetoric that fucks over disenfranchised people because it makes people assume that the only reason we struggle is because we're not trying hard enough with the supposedly ample opportunities our "dominance" affords us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/23 07:03 PM
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Oh absolutely! Bigots have the same patterns of bullshit pretty universally. These bigots are just too drunk on self righteousness and unearned self importance to recognize it.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 07:33 PM
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And it's not even the most likely gender. They just worked to make sure male victims weren't counted in statistics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/23 10:46 PM
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There's literally pages of evidence of what basically amounts to ideological fear mongering around this. Male victims of things like rape and domestic violence have been excluded in a number of the methodologies used to gather statistics on these crimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 09:59 PM
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Glad to have you!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 09:19 AM
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Take a look through /r/metafemra for the meta discussions on that sub. There's a lot of unchecked bias within the mod team.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 03:07 AM
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Says removed by reddit.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 08:45 AM
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They're also currently trying to take over the antifeminists sub. One of the menslib mods made a reddit request.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 11:16 PM
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That's an excellent comment! It's unfortunate that I know menslib won't allow you to follow it to it's conclusion. But IMHO. much of that mentality that men are individually responsible is a result of feminst doctrine and it's views on men. The thought goes something like this "if men don't like the stigma and their gender roles. They shouldn't have created the patriarchy"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/23 07:29 PM
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Honestly this whole conversation deserves to be its own post. Thank you both for the opportunity to read.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 11:54 PM
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There's a lot of good advice in PUA circles that's sadly ignored because it's from PUA circles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 08:09 PM
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Interesting. It's always pleasant to see people challenging their biases. Has anything been really eye opening so far?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 06:26 PM
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I think there's a really easy way to define this issue. Women have been liberated from their gender roles in dating. Men have not. because feminist doctrine dictates that men are a monolithic hive mind that created gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 04:33 PM
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I do take issue with the last bit. And it's also why I find the hateful part at least somewhat arguable. Isolation is POTENT. It's used as a torture method and can cause lasting psychological issues on the extreme ends. On top of that. Our society is built for couples. Relationships are not just the norm. They're practically expected. It's in all of our media. It's even arguably necessary for economic stability in some areas. I remember visiting my couple friends when I was single and it made me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 09:35 AM
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I recently looked at FemraDebates again and noticed something Just gonna use this opportunity to shill /r/MetaFeMRA. An impartial meta discussion sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/23 01:26 PM
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Same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/23 01:22 PM
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So. Just gonna ignore the fact that feminist groups and academics have literally demonstrably fought against male rape victims being legally recognized as such? Like I get that this is probably also going to go over your head. But you're defending rape apologists and trying to spin it as supporting victims.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 08:50 PM
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I'm not certain if you're aware of this. But feminist groups and academics are some of the primary forces that have historically pushed to exclude male rape victims from laws and statistics. Just Google Mary P Koss. If we want justice for rape victims. We need to fight feminism where it's standing in the way of their recognition.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 08:40 PM
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So where does Satan fit into all of this. Since we're talking conspiracy theories and whatnot.
/r/MensRights23/01/23 01:09 AM
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A screwdriver isn't used for stabbing people either. But when you have people getting stabbed what do you accomplish by explaining to the victims that screwdrivers aren't meant to be used like that? Do you not think it would be better to simply take the screwdrivers away from the people doing the stabbing?
/r/MensRights22/01/23 09:53 PM
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There are numerous other terms that could be used that aren't as shitty.
/r/MensRights22/01/23 09:49 PM
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Menslib is about helping men for the sake of women.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 11:16 AM
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My only request is that when you see man hating in feminist communities. You call it out. The responses you get will tell you all you need to know.
/r/MensRights19/01/23 11:12 AM
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That being said I think its unfair that they speak for everyone in our community. For one. How do you think we feel that the entirety of the male population has been painted as an evil oppressor class due to the hand full of men in power. For two. we think it's unfair that every time we reference the issues we've had with this movement we're told that we must just be focusing on some fringe minority because every self proclaimed feminist is in a feminist book club with five other women. none of …
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/23 11:10 PM
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You may have an easier time if you're a bit heteroflexible. I'm not sure if it's local to where I am or just a situation of my social circle. But most of the poly people I know are some shade of gender nonconforming or trans. Though I do think part of that is due to the demystifying of sex that comes with eschewing your assigned gender roles. Or at least that's personally what I've found. Once you start to question the limitations society pushes you into then you'll start to notice that attracti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 09:57 PM
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Yes. They are the bad guys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 09:23 PM
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They have a popular Instagram page where they host them all! Though personally I'd like something that could be shared via pamphlet, poster or sticker form. If /u/thetinmenblog wanted to they could presumably set up a merch page of such things. The idea being that fans/supporters could purchase with the intent to post/distribute in public places where the law allows. The revenue of which could go towards both them continuing to produce more and potentially several men's charities or shelters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 08:45 PM
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Advocating for violence makes us the bad guys. That's why we don't allow it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 08:44 PM
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In a way that's kind of the point though isn't it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 08:12 PM
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Like said. It explains a surprising amount.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 07:52 PM
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Something you start to notice being in these conversations for a while is that these ogres are following a religion. They're not operating under a movement. Or an ideology. They work under dogmatic and at times cult like beliefs that are upheld by their social bubbles. Nothing you say. No amount of evidence will sway them because their beliefs are based in faith. Here for example is a website listing some red flags that may indicate your group is a cult. https://culteducation.com/warningsigns.ht…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 07:33 PM
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Good! They have a better insight than most to its effects on somebody not raised with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/23 11:13 PM
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Of course. That's why we need to work to condemn the mistreatment from the left while not advocating for right wing BS as a replacement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/23 06:37 AM
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I feel a wave is starting. Maybe not to fully being normalized. But I feel like a lot of the younger generation of boys and men are really feeling the crunch and asking questions. They're waking up to the fact that we're not privileged. Or oppressors. Or rapists to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/23 03:50 AM
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If they actually believe in equality then they would change their mind on feminism
/r/MensRights01/01/23 05:10 PM
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Lmao "values free speech" is just "don't say anything about my religion that I don't like" Several of what used to be the top all time posts were mine. The mod quietly deleted them several months after I was banned because they directly called out their bullshit.
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 07:49 AM

This was reported for "bad form" because it called out the 'slib on a holiday. I shall respond informally below. Munch me. Hate warrants no kindness nor concession. Making their shitshow look bad brings a smile to my soul on this day of festivities and cheer. Think of it as a little lump of coal for that chuck derry AMA naughtiness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/22 11:36 AM
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It would be easier. Yes. Would it be "crumble like a house of cards" easy? Men have been oppressed for thousands of years, long before feminism. It wasn't easy then. I don't disagree. But none of the progress we've made has included men. I doubt Republicans would suddenly agree to end a male-only draft once feminists are gone Sure. But what is the world's foremost gender advocacy doing currently aside from working towards the interests of that same group? I doubt that doctors and rabbis would st…
/r/MensRights24/12/22 03:47 AM
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Even if we waved a magic wand and eliminated feminism we would still have sexist custody laws (that hurt children AND fathers), Yes, because feminists lobbied to make the laws that way. we would still have dipshits who thought that men can't be victims of abuse. Yes, because feminists have spent the last thirty some years promoting that narrative. It would be easier to argue for equality without feminism, granted. But I see feminism is a SYMPTOM of a larger problem, it's not the problem itself. …
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:59 AM
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Conservative anti feminists aren't the ones in power. They're not writing the laws. They're not teaching classes on anti-feminism. They're not nearly as much of a problem.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:56 AM
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Fair enough. Though the point still stands. If feminism wasn't such a massive obstacle a good 98% of men's issues would crumble like a house of cards.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:55 AM
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And who are the ones promoting the message that it's "other men"?
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:14 AM
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Notice how often you're using "just" Even you are clearly aware that they do in fact have their hands in ALL of these issues. Nobody is saying that feminism is the ONLY obstacle. But it's definitely a fucking big one.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 04:38 AM
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There's a Venn diagram of anti-feminism and men's issues. In reality the overlap is quite small and there are a HUGE amount of issues you can talk about that never involve mentioning feminism at all. I disagree with this at a fundamental level. Feminism is currently the worlds largest movement for "gender equality" Feminism basically wrote the book on how we recognize and address gender issues in the modern day. And in doing so left MASSIVE blind spots over any mens issue that didn't negatively …
/r/MensRights23/12/22 04:34 AM
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Oh fuck off with your victim blaming "by other men" shit. For the record I agree that the space should be for advocacy and not straight anti-feminism. BUT. it's here for a reason. (several even) one reason is that it's that same kind of bullshit that trains young men to be rampantly antifeminist. Any time they bring up that men have issues too they get the same victim blaming rhetoric that basically tells them "oh it's up to you to fix your own issues because you're the one who caused them" And …
/r/MensRights23/12/22 04:27 AM
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It's like the pastor of a megachurch telling the poor and destitute that "God works in mysterious ways." It's a way to unquestionably reaffirm their beliefs and end the conversation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/22 03:06 AM
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I would bet money that this is wrong. the framework is right. But feminists can't reconcile the idea of men suffering with the idea of patriarchy. "How can the oppressor class be struggling? must be because they're entitled and the world isn't giving them what they want."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/22 08:45 PM
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What exactly is misogynistic about this? please feel free to extrapolate.
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 08:51 AM

I'm making this an announcement for a few days because I think it's worth promoting. But we're still looking for moderators! Feel free to apply via the modmail.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/22 05:28 AM
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I agree 100% You can't just dismiss and pathologize an entire gender. The falsehood of those feminist paradigms is obvious to anybody that has first hand experience facing men's issues. And it's becoming harder and harder to ignore. Look for example at Jordan Peterson and his male audience. 99% of the time he's not saying anything extreme. He's just telling men that they're not monsters and how to get their shit in order to work in the society we live in. . If some of the "biggest" men's voices …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/22 03:41 PM
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I think this is a better sign than you may think. Sure. It's not exactly the conversation we want. but it's a conversation that wouldn't be happening if not for consistently raising awareness. And something that I've noted in years of being involved in these discussions is that those frameworks don't survive outside of heavily moderated echo chambers. The cracks start to show in the dissonance between our lived experiences as men and what feminists project onto the male experience but most peopl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/22 01:17 PM
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There are 341,112 readers in this sub. But 59 makes a representative majority?
/r/MensRights23/11/22 11:07 AM
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It's also not politically correct to say that men have it worse in some areas.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 10:20 AM
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Funny how that works huh? It's almost as if there's a bigger problem that needs addressing.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 05:53 AM
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I'm not seeing you post in any feminist subs. I'll give you credit for the argument I see against toxic masculinity. But I don't see you going to outright feminist communities and voicing your concerns.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 05:01 AM
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So why don't I see you saying the same in those communities?
/r/MensRights22/11/22 03:59 AM
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I think the word you're looking for is "cult"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/22 03:37 AM
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It was 100% feminist messaging in my experience. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/jz1lzz/how_feminist_shaming_tactics_needlessly_cause/ Here's a post I made a few years back that addresses this and goes into just how widespread it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/22 01:14 AM
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This article goes into discussing how many men are outright afraid to approach women. So I wanted to add my own spin to things. We have a clearly visible population of people who are struggling here. Younger awkward or even disabled men to whom expressing interest is a risk not worth taking. I was one of these men. And it took me years to unlearn the message that my sexuality and romantic desires were unwanted and toxic. And as soon as I learned to be more open in expressing them I found immedia…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/22 11:50 PM
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Literally just had somebody say this to me in a different sub. They wonder why we're anti feminist when they're more concerned about preserving the good name of feminism over helping the victims of the Institutional discrimination brought about by these feminist organizations This is the label they chose. Fucking own it or stop wearing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 07:18 AM
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/u/TheTinMenBlog Another excellent post! It touches on something I've been saying for a long time about feminism being very cult-like. The social ostracism aspect that comes with questioning feminism in feminist circles creates an immense amount of pressure for people to conform. and in some groups this becomes a toxic competition to constantly prove your "feminist credentials". And it's part of why I have personally and specifically cracked down on and condemned ideological purity tests in this…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/22 03:09 AM

This was reported for being low effort. But another moderator has already commented here and thus looked over it so I'll just skip the formalities and call that a consensus. Though I do see why it was reported for such. I think this is a good example of the minimum we'd like to see. as there's both a link and some text to digest. We don't need everybody to post essays or thesis level posts. But we also don't want the sub to devolve into memes and rage bait.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/22 02:59 AM
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fucking bring it. Every debate space I've been involved in that feminists tried participating in has died due to lack of feminist participation. The only way you get them to survive is to tighten down the moderation to sharply favor feminist perspectives. They won't come in to discussions where they can be proved wrong.
/r/AntiFeminists27/10/22 10:47 AM
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Hit the nail on the fucking head. It's no secret i went through a period of involuntary celibacy. But this exact notion is why I will never agree with people that sex doesn't matter. When I lost my V card that shit was life changing. Not because of some magical ultra testosterone manliness booster or whatever the usual strawman is. Because it felt so casual. It was an affirmation that my desires were OK. Many LGBTQ+ folks go through a similar issue with not feeling as though their sexuality and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/22 05:45 PM
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Do you remember the title or have a link? I'd love to
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 04:58 AM
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I wouldn't even frame it as asking feminists. I'd frame it more along the lines of "either take the time to actually listen to men and integrate our experiences into your framework so we can work with you towards equality or stop defining yourselves as the sole movement for equality and opposing us at every turn"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/22 10:14 PM
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On top of this. There's the part of relationships that we as a society take for granted. look at how much relationships are in our society and media. How many love songs there are. How many movie plots rotate around some kind of romance. How many advertisements or shows can you remember that catered to a single guy who was considered normal? How many can you name that didn't have said single guy getting into a relationship being a pivotal point of character growth? I can't think of one. On top o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 08:48 AM
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Those groups have lots of crossovers, In much the same way that we have crossovers with feminist groups. That's kind of the issue. Now when it's used to instantly dismiss everything about it, including people in suffering it is bad, however that article was not doing that, the aforementioned usage is one of my biggest issues. You can't really avoid it when using the term IMHO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 07:32 AM
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My preference is "harmful gender roles" Doesn't gender anything, Doesn't place blame on any individual and instead makes it a societal assertion
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 07:21 AM
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Because the "manosphere" is largely used to describe a number of very different groups that only share the common denominator of the members being men. Like, This sub would be considered by many to be part of the "manosphere" And sure, We talk about them. But we aren't MGTOW's TRPs, Incels or PUA's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 07:01 AM
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Yes, But it's not like they're well educated on why that term is problematic. This is still coming largely from an area that is overwhelmingly feminist. You can't just throw the baby out with the bathwater. Change is going to be gradual. But it's a welcome change no less.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 06:55 AM
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Largely because this paper, to probably absolutely no one's surprise, largely dismisses the possibility that incel complaints may in fact be valid. weird. I got the opposite vibe from it. Seeing as it does go so far as to acknowledge external issues at all. It does state that incels have an "external locus of control" but it also does this while acknowledging that there is a reason for this. Also yeah, It's going to use the term "misogynist" a lot. That's kind of the reason the issue has been br…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 06:53 AM
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No, Bullying is something others do. not something you do to yourself. I recognize that you're coming to your conclusion from a purely academic perspective that "masculinity and femininity" are purely external forces pushed onto people. But that is not how those terms are defined in every day life to the vast majority of people. To the layman and according to most dictionary definitions "masculinity and femininity" are something largely internal to a person. We do not live in an academic world. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 12:49 AM
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Yup. That's another thing I've noticed. It's not perfect but it's a welcome improvement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 12:29 AM
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i'm not sure why you take particular issue to the fact that the alt right caters to a target audience (straight white men), that seems to be a big contention with your post. The contention is more so that the author doesn't seem to even recognize that he (and a significant portion of the left) have a huge issue with being flippant and disdainful towards that very demographic. And one of the alt rights most powerful recruiting tools is being able reliably expect left wing communities to shit on m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/22 08:10 AM
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Yeah, Fuck jim. Whack him right in the nads.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 03:33 AM
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Oh there's so many points where their rhetoric and racists rhetoric overlaps that the venn diagram is practically a circle.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:13 AM
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Sure. But that comes part and parcel with the implication that men are inherently more murderous/violent than women. That to me sounds just as bigoted and hateful as when racists make the same argument for minority crime rates being higher. Also you'll note in the link I offered there's statistics that challenge what you say. Finding that women perpetrated murder of their husbands at nearly equal rates before women gained widespread access to shelters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 12:52 AM
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In other words. Pretty much the exact same reasons that crime rates are higher in minority communities that deal with discrimination and intergenerational poverty
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 12:20 AM
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Are you actually saying that large parts of men are killing their partners because they want to escape domestic abuse from them? That is a remarkable statement. This post goes into more detail. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/e6hxvq/battered_husband_syndrome_as_an_explanation_for/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 12:19 AM
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Keep trying. It looks like they're not getting the message.
/r/AntiFeminists23/09/22 09:05 PM
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Sounds to me like he was in a cult from the beginning.
/r/AntiFeminists23/09/22 08:18 PM
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Go tell them that.
/r/AntiFeminists23/09/22 12:51 PM
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Ahh. Seems like you didn't read what they said and instead substituted it for your own thing. He didn't say it's misandrist to insinuate that that a man is upset just because he disagrees with you. Allow me to explain in simple terms. When a man opens up about being harmed by something and you attempt to frame that as "he's just mad and trying to X" it's just playing into the harmful gender role that men are only allowed to feel anger. While also invalidating that man's experience due to that st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 04:41 AM
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We have looked around. We're not seeing it. But if it's so obvious you should be able to find examples pretty easily no?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 11:19 PM
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Whoa, calling me upset? That's misandry. You being upset has nothing to do with you being a man. I get that you're trying to reverse the logic you've seen used elsewhere because you're upset but it's only making you look bad when you throw out irrelevant strawmen. Wearing a seatbelt isn't guaranteed to save my life in a crash, but I'm still going to wear it instead of just hanging a rosary from my mirror. What a silly false equivalency. A seatbelt has significant effect towards saving a person's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 11:18 PM
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Hold on. Let me make an exception and approve this. I want witnesses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 10:58 PM
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I'm just using your own logic my dude. You're claiming something I am saying doesn't exist because you've never heard anybody other than me say it. Meaning i must by process of elimination be the first and only person to say it. You did this in response to me asking for examples of where guys expressed outright entitlement to women because you assume I'm trying to say what you're claiming happens constantly doesn't actually happen. As such the reciprocal stance I take to match your own is that y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 02:33 PM
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What I saw was people doing what you're doing. Reading words that aren't there and getting upset about it. If it smells like shit everywhere you walk, check your own shoes. Seems that you're the only one upset here. Perhaps you should practice as you preach Equating advice about being presentable and decent to praying shows how toxic your mindset is. Like you said. Neither is guaranteed to work. So why not go with something that does. Investment is inherently risky. It doesn't always pay off. Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 02:25 PM
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So then why was that sentence relevant?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 02:01 PM
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But you literally did. I am passing that advice on. Are you saying that you feel entitled to a relationship?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 02:00 PM
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That sounds like a you problem. Clearly not, because you already saw that others agree this post reeks of redpill. What I saw was people doing what you're doing. Reading words that aren't there and getting upset about it. The advice doesn't guarantee you anything. It just gives you a better chance, provided you're doing these things genuinely. The same goes for prayer. Which is why I tend to get an air hose for a flat tire instead of clasping my hands. Dating someone can often times be expensive…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 01:59 PM
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You mean like what you did with a single sentence of my post in your original comment?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 01:47 PM
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I've been in several. Never seen such things. Got any examples?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 01:44 PM
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Where? I've literally never experienced this in my entire life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 01:37 PM
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True, but there are some men out there who genuinely don't have any female friends or social life of any kind, socialization is the foot in the door for these Men. It's the foot in the door. But not the solution. Gotta recognize it for what it is. A starting point. This is a such a non advice. Confidence isn't something you can pull out of a hat. Its the natural result of personal accomplishments and how others treat you, there's no "hack" to becoming confident. Also, this "advice" paradoxically…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 01:35 PM
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As soon as you say learned how to be successful with dating it poisons the rest of your post and gives off redpill vibes. That sounds like a you problem. . After reading your whole post, it just boils down to "The common advice doesn't make things better right now. No one tries to understand how incels got there." I followed the common advice for literal years and got nowhere. You talk about sabotaging yourself and your own chances multiple times. Don't want to take a cooking class because it's …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 01:28 PM
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It's hard to give a definitive timeline. It's all kind of interwoven. But here's some stuff I did and the results it had. Starting around puberty I already kind of recognized that I wasn't in a prime place for dating. I remember one of the first real things I did was set a goal to give every person in the school a hug. This broke me out of my shell and taught me a concept I've carried to this day. And instead of explaining in words I'll explain via a tiktok video that's posted on YouTube. https:…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 12:51 PM
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Whoops. I removed and reposted this. Wanna copy your comment over to the new post?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 08:18 AM
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This is a prime example of where people get this "solution" wrong. No amount of men being more emotionally open with one another is going to fill the gap of intimacy left by feeling unwanted by half the population. Which to most guys is the half of the population they're hardwired to desire.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 01:40 AM
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So. Men get so few compliments from women that we've learned to associate compliments with interest. And that's somehow our own fault?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 01:31 AM
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reminds me of a quote from a Jim Jeffries stand up bit. "Whenever a [male] stripper takes their clothes off, they’ve still got, like, a fireman’s hat on, or a tool belt on, or a policeman’s gun on a holster, right? Because even when a man’s naked, a woman wants to know that he has a job."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 07:30 AM
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Sounds to me like they're putting the blame on men for them not communicating their desires well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 06:21 AM
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Aside from the transcripts I posted I do have one thing I'd like to share. This image was also posted to the feminism subreddit. Here's a preview of the comments there. Talking about the undersexualization of men also ignores that the objectification of women is part of patriarchy and a large system of oppression that women live under. it's such a stupid assertion that sexy clothes for men don't exist and that there aren't male media role models for sexiness. men are just misunderstanding what w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 04:03 AM
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Image Transcription: Tumblr [2/2] roachpatrol i once thoughtlessly complimented a guy on his jacket, because he and his friend rounded the corner and suddenly i was confronted with an extremely handsome young man in a very fashionable black leather jacket, and i blurted out ‘whoah, nice jacket, you’re looking good!’ and the look on his face was just this explosion of surprise and delight– he actually kind of missed a step. the next minute i was like shit shit SHIT what if things get weird JEEZ b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 03:54 AM
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Image Transcription: Tumblr [1/2] marcusseldon (note: I have no romantic or sexualized experience myself, so I admit *some* of these points rely entirely on secondhand stuff and media) One thing I think is not talked about very much is that straight men live pretty much desexualized lives if we’re not actually having sex at that moment, and then there’s not much room to be the object rather than subject. As I’ve said before, we men don’t have clothing options for “dressing sexy” in masculine clo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 03:53 AM
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A lot of this I feel is projected though. I've seen a lot of things labelled "whataboutism" that were just people bringing up tangential issues that were related in order to highlight a double standard. Ie, a feminist will state that "men are in power" An mra will respond that the few men who are in power are vastly outnumbered by the men who are at the opposite end of society. This to me is not "whataboutism" it's "hey your perspective is missing several important aspects"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 09:48 PM
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Go tell them that we'll stop when they do. :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 08:25 PM
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If only feminists weren't busy campaigning against funding male shelters they would notice we're trying to open them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 08:23 PM
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They do. But they're not too active. https://www.reddit.com/user/TheTinMenBlog/
/r/MensRights12/09/22 11:19 AM
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The numerous messages demonizing and shaming male sexuality along with unfettered Bullying from self proclaimed feminists hitched me with a deep sense of internalized shame about my sexuality that eventually pushed me down the incel rabbit hole for a period. Took me a number of years to overcome it and learn that my desire for women was normal and even reciprocated. It also took years to recognize that being assertive and expressing my desires got me farther than I ever did but "being nice" or "…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/22 11:46 PM
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That's because there are some better modded communities that exist like /r/mensupportmen
/r/MensRights02/09/22 08:21 PM
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Okay, but who is the most vocal antagonist against circumcision? Well--on Twitter, it's men. is this seriously your argument? Like. Grow up. Actually. conservatives and the mostly male government. Incarceration rates. And what's their reasoning? Oh right. The benefit of women. Fuck if only we had thought of that. And of course, we know that the greatest antagonists to the recognition that men can be raped by women is going to be men, Yeah it has nothing to do with feminist women like Mary P Koss…
/r/MensRights17/08/22 07:20 AM
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Funny. You want to preach to us but the second any of us points out that your logic is flawed and bigoted you suddenly lose interest. But I guess if your intent was to engage honestly you wouldn't believe the shit you do.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 07:14 AM
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Men uniquely, nearly ubiquitously, had a role of power, particularly where law, military and the enforcement of law are concerned--and that standard continues into the modern day where women only make up approximately 30% in government offices, as judges, and less than 20% in law enforcement and in the military. Whenever you're talking about the subjugation of people, you must first look at these roles of power--especially the military class as you look back in time, to see who is enforcing the …
/r/MensRights17/08/22 07:12 AM
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Note that I gave two options. They either treat me civilly and I will reciprocate. Or pay reparations for me to act civilly to them in the face of their hate. If they wish to treat me as a monster I will continue to treat them in kind. And sure. I'll send you a DM. but I'll let you know I've already looked.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/22 04:04 AM
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I will tell you what I've told others. I will act civilly towards those who treat me civilly. If you treat anybody as a monster for the way they were born you deserve to be shamed relentlessly. I was raised in a community that demonized and ostracized me for conditions outside of my control. And a large part of that came from the delightfully misandrist feminists I knew in my youth. I faced years of mental anguish and hardship due to the things they put me through. If they want me to act civilly…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/22 12:36 AM
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They feel like they are the "scientific," default, evidence-based approach to gender issues. Academe, media, and legal institutions in the First World indeed treat them as such. This is the part that truly bothers me. Because they treat a history in academia as evidence of their views being right. But they're completely unaware of their blind spots and biases and just how much the male perspective has been eschewed and disregarded. They treat it like a cardinal sin that people like me don't beli…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/22 09:52 AM
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Oh you're allowed to ask questions in the same way they let you ask questions in church. All answers must be accepted as gospel and if you ask the wrong question they'll find a reason to kick you out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 11:51 PM
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And one of the top posts from a mod who is also an MRA is a plea to others MRAs to stop being so confrontational. What you see as confrontational I see as reciprocating the treatment we recieve from feminists. It is not secret the imbalance of the community there, and it has been a conversation since the subreddit started, and a major thorn in that many of the feminists have been ran out by other members. Nothing forced them out. Nothing is stopping them from participating. There are even clear …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 10:39 PM
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That's what happens when you have one sided rules. The top post of all time in that sub is mine. It's about how the (currently most active) mod there justifies "kill all men" Yet even mild critiques of feminists are treated as uncivil and hateful. In simpler terms. Outright hatred towards men is "just a joke" but saying "hey there's a problem with misandrists within feminism" is hate. EDIT: just did some digging and that same mod recently banned somebody for making the argument that women tend t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 09:27 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/4sD8eQu Here you go
/r/AntiFeminists13/08/22 06:50 AM
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I've actively been doing this for years. It's part of how I find these comments. Just be genuine. Accept rejection and don't push too hard. Toss out an invite and they'll look. If they're interested they'll stick around.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 12:48 PM
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I found this in a comment elsewhere. But it's an interesting (marxist?) take on patriarchy and how historically the notion of men oppressing women simply doesn't make sense. I really like this as an article because it's written from the perspective of somebody who seems to be deeply feminist. As such I wanted to share it here so that others could also share it around. if I've learned anything in many years of discussions with dogmatic tribalistic feminists it's that they've already discounted ev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 09:35 AM
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I'm making this a post of it's own.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 08:40 AM
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The nice thing though is that once you become conscious of this you can pretty effectively game the algorithm to show you stuff that you like. if I started watching hairstyling tiktoks today I'd get a bunch tomorrow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 10:26 AM
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Honestly I've never run into that. But the algorithm doesn't entirely work based on likes either. It's largely interaction based from what I gather. Which means that regardless of what you like you'll be shown more of whatever genre of stuff you watch more of/comment on/share.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 10:22 AM
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There's a comment I wrote a while back that I keep saved specifically to explain this. people need to stop and think about just how much our society revolves around the expectation that people are pairing up and fucking. It's in all of our media. How many movie plots rotate around some kind of romance. How many advertisements or shows can you remember that catered to a single guy who was considered normal? How many can you name that didn't have said single guy getting into a relationship being a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/22 01:40 AM
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I think the big part you're missing out on is that people are upset at others abusing what is inevitably a very niche space to their own benefit when it's specifically a space for others. Let's use an anecdotal framing. Imagine we have a club for awkward nerdy people to go where they can drink and listen to anime music and play magic the gathering or DND without being bothered or judged. And now imagine that there's a group of jocks who come in for whatever reason. They start bullying the patron…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/22 06:27 PM
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I say this a lot but I'd honestly love for you to make a post delving into your experiences with this. Even that much could really open up the conversation about how frequent yet underreported the issue actually is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/22 05:48 PM
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While I do generally agree with your sentiments we must consider this through the lense that the world we're in doesn't necessarily fit that lens. And we should apply our judgement less on what is ideal and more on the what the current system entails. And IMHO this is exactly how women's spaces are treated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/22 05:42 PM
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This was removed but I'm not certain as to why. The wording is certainly strong but it's not unreasonable to hold gay men's spaces to the same standard as any other women's space would be treated. So I've approved it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/22 05:36 PM
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Really? Because on an institutional level it's quite the opposite. I'm talking about laws and policy on national scales. Where's the feminist effort to undo feminist actions erasing male rape victims? It's great that you think these feminists are disgusting. but why do you choose to support them? And before you say you don't. You absolutely do. The government entities that these feminists advise aren't asking you for your beliefs. They're not looking at the beliefs of individual feminists. They'…
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 10:22 PM
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however your statistics, while true Which ones? the ones gathered by koss' methodology that specifically exclude male victims? Most people talking about sexual violence refer to the "rape" (penetrated) numbers as influenced by Mary Koss's methodologies, but in the US the CDC also gathered the data for "made to penetrate" (enveloped) in the 2010, 2011, and 2015 NISVS studies. As an example lets look at the 2011 survey numbers: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm an estimated 1.…
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 08:52 PM
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For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. You should listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to what she is saying. (Really. Listen to it! Think about it from a man's perspective.) She is considered the foremost expert on sexual violence in the US. She is the one …
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 08:20 PM
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We have bad acts like the systemic erasure of male victims of rape and domestic abuse. What are the good acts that make up for this? What good act makes up for the fact that feminist groups have pushed to define rape in such a way that men cannot be legally seen as victims if a woman forces him to have sex with her.
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 08:07 PM

Considering that most of the resistance to even talking about men's issues is ideological in nature. (something that is highlighted in this article) I felt it was relevant to discussion here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/22 08:44 PM
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Something you'll learn is that conversations are exceedingly rare. Most of the people actually willing to converse will already have one foot out the door of the movement because once you accept outside perspectives the foundations of their ideology fall apart. But if you're looking for how people get involved. It's the exact same mechanism cults use to recruit new members. They seek out downtrodden and hurting Individuals and inundate them with faux positive support on the condition of performa…
/r/AntiFeminists09/07/22 10:07 PM
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Disregarding what /u/EmirikolWoker pointed out. Do you seriously think that women don't ever lie?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 09:15 AM
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Are you seriously comparing the threat of death to being led on?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 09:15 AM
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The same can be said of women. So using that rhetoric why are abortions even necessary? If women don't want kids they should just not have sex.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:32 AM
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Yes, I totally understand what they came from. A few MRA (who are not into tradition) became apathetic to women's issues because they were treated very bad (one of them was insulted though he was raped by a woman). That's pretty much the consensus for many as far as I've seen. Feminist groups have pushed successfully for systemic and legal discrimination against male victims of rape and domestic violence. They've also pushed against equal parenting legislation repeatedly. The message they're giv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/22 12:12 AM
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Please make this into its own post. This discussion and the sources provided should be seen by more people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/22 11:52 PM
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Had you been there recently? the sub was overrun with TERF's. I left a comment talking about how male victims of rape and sexual assault are grossly undercounted because most legal definitions of rape exclude male victims. And I was dogpiled by a handful of TERF'S whining about the evil "penis havers"
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 10:07 PM
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I wish I could sticky other people's comments. This is one major aspect that's never really talked about when discussing incels and loneliness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/22 07:32 PM
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If the expectation is "penetration" then by the nature of women's genitals. They're not going to be penetrating men when they rape them.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 01:58 AM
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https://www.viepsychology.com/2016/07/29/female-sex-offenders-an-underrepresented-population/ Until recently, laws in some countries (e.g., Canada in 1983) failed to recognize women as perpetrators of sexual offences. There is also evidence that victims of female-perpetrated sexual abuse are either not recognized in the same way as victims of male-perpetrated sexual offences (e.g., via risk assessments) or reports of crime are not completed in the same way. Furthermore, victims of female-perpetr…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 09:52 PM
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men cannot be legally raped by women in the U.K, France, Ireland, The U.S.A, Guatemala, India, Israel, New Zealand, Philippines, South Africa and Switzerland And that's just from a quick google search.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 09:49 PM
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This is not true in Canada no we still don’t have anywhere close to equal numbers of male victims and gender parity of perps is nowhere near equal either. I've literally cited to you where and how this was the case in Canada using Canadian statistics. Women and feminism are not responsible for men not reporting. Men are afraid of being shamed by OTHER MEN in coming out with their stories, this is in the data Feminism is literally responsible for creating the laws and methodologies that exclude m…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 08:44 PM
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I've literally given you reasoning based on existing data. It is and was literally not possible for women to rape men in numerous countries. Most rape statistics specifically exclude male victims of female perpetrators. These things alone contribute massively to societal bias that prevents men from reporting.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 02:06 PM
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You keep ignoring that there are specific factors for male victims at play that there simply aren't for women.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 02:00 PM
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There’s a pretty big gap between 17 and 44. You should actually open the study and read why it's a range. You may learn something As I’ve already quoted, the number of male victims of sexual assault is about 1-12% in Canada. This is a distinct minority. https://www.viepsychology.com/2016/07/29/female-sex-offenders-an-underrepresented-population/ Until recently, laws in some countries (e.g., Canada in 1983) failed to recognize women as perpetrators of sexual offences. There is also evidence that …
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:51 PM
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This is untrue. The “false accusation” obsession is proof of that. For decades and decades women would report and not be believed by police. And then laws and social movements came and changed that. But unfortunately now the same is happening to men. Again, the idea that there are more sexual assaults than reported applies to both genders. Even if you were to add in those that go unreported, current data shows that women would still be the primary victims and men would be the offenders most of t…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:26 PM
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Only 6% of sexual assaults are reported, so the numbers for female victims of male perps are vastly underreported as well. Yet there's clear cut evidence of a widespread systemic disbelief that men can be victimized by women working against men. (And not to mention the multiple countries where women cannot legally rape a man) This is not present for women. Underreporting is not a criminal issue. You would have to work harder to get men to come forward. Then let's start by fighting back against t…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:21 PM
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So you quote the same statistics I've already told you are based on poor methodology and underreporting due to overarching societal bias. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sexual-victimization-by-women-is-more-common-than-previously-known/ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0093854816658923 victimization surveys indicated prevalence rates of female sexual offenders that were six times higher than official data https://www.viepsychology.com/2016/07/29/female-sex-offenders-an-underr…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:05 PM
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The laws and policies around women not legally being able to rape men in multiple countries. Feminists are also responsible for stopping male victims of female rapists from being recognized in India, Israel, [Nepal] (https://kathmandupost.com/national/2020/12/11/ordinance-amends-law-on-rape-but-fails-to-recognise-rape-of-boy-child-and-sexual-minorities) and the USA Where does that site give numbers? I see how it states multiple times that there's a massive problem with underreporting due to soci…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 12:42 PM
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Ok - so the Time article is interesting, because it spends about 2/3 of the time saying women are lying or making up their sexual assaults, and then in the bottom third infers that all men are telling the truth. This makes no sense. Can you cite to me where it does this? Secondly, sexual assault is a broad category that includes rape. We have to include all sexual assaults since “made to penetrate” is a sexual assault, not a “rape”. If we do, we see that women are victimized sexually much much m…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 11:38 AM
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They brought on mods. All but one and the creator quit Reddit. And the one that's left outright excuses misandry. They assume people bring up misandry just as an attack on feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 10:43 AM
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Yup. Posted their justification word for word and just changed the word men to feminists.
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 08:43 AM
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Lmao my guess is because those purely theoretical "true feminists" don't jump in and do shit and the mod knows this. I got banned from there months ago for making the current top all time post of that sub that basically called them out for justifying "kill all men" by saying If you as a person decide to try and justify people saying "kill all ____" you are hateful abhorrent scum. It is not a parody. It is not satire. It is not acceptable. And the fact that some would hold hate to a different sta…
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/22 05:52 AM
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/u/MelodiousTones Care to respond?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 05:08 AM
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I didn't ask for that. I asked for examples of a widespread conversation. The problem I'm outlining is that while "toxic masculinity" is frequently used despite all the arguments against it. (including the fact that things like labelling theory come into play and many use it to condemn men as a whole) "Toxic femininity" is almost always called something else.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 04:54 AM
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For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. You should listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to what she is saying. (Really. Listen to it! Think about it from a man's perspective.) She is considered the foremost expert on sexual violence in the US. And is an advis…
/r/MensRights15/06/22 10:29 PM
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That's because the statistics are created with a methodology that purposefully excludes male victims. If you include them the stats come out nearly symmetrical. Just google "made to penetrate" stats.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 09:56 PM
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Statistically men with criminal records are more likely to have more sexual partners. Nobody really wants to talk about it but success in romance means knowing when to push the right boundary at the right time. That means the guys who don't give a shit about pushing boundaries and etc are going to be more successful.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 09:52 PM
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Sounds to me like his father was shitty. That's not masculinity. That's his father.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 09:44 PM
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Can you show me any prominent feminist discussions on toxic femininity? I want to see something in a magazine. Or a well cited study. And it has to be called such.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 09:42 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately there's some issues with the NP links that I didn't feel like messing around with so I just removed it entirely. The title of the post if you're looking for it is An intro to patriarchy: what it is, how it works, and why we need to be liberated from it (i.e. men... and everyone else).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/22 10:12 AM

I'm glad that this community could play such an important role for you! It's a real sign that we're doing something right. Good luck with your new baby boy! I'm sure that everybody here would agree with me in saying that we in the LWMA community hope that he grows up happy and healthy. and we hope that we can make the world a place that will love and accept him for who he is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/22 10:10 AM
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I'd really love to meet one of these true feminists people talk of. But from what I've seen there's only one and she only appears under moonlight when the leaves of poplar trees are covered in a fine few.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 06:35 AM
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Do you have a link to this post? It would make for a nice discussion I think
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/22 05:41 AM
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Thanks for these. I'm going to add them to our sidebar under the issues with menslib section.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/22 09:29 PM
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Oh that's not even the worst. A few months back they held an AMA from a guy that straight up denied that men could be victims of DV.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/22 09:23 PM
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Exactly. So many feminists use the tired excuse of "but me and my friends just want equality" Like great! Start speaking out against your fellow feminists that are pushing for misandrist laws and policy.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 07:31 AM
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Because OP doesn't seem to realize the bad on one side is influencing laws and institutionalized policies. The bad on the other side is sometimes saying mean things on the internet. Show me some feminists calling out the fact that men cannot be legally raped by women in the U.K, France, Ireland, The U.S.A, Guatemala, India, Israel, New Zealand, Philippines, South Africa and Switzerland And that's just from a quick google search. Oh wait. More often than not it was feminists and feminist groups w…
/r/MensRights09/06/22 04:21 AM
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The problem is that the bad on one side is influencing laws and institutionalized policies. The bad on the other side is sometimes saying mean things on the internet.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 04:19 AM
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And which group do you think are the ones influencing legislation? The well credentialed voices saying atrocious things? or your friends?
/r/MensRights09/06/22 04:18 AM
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The problem is that OP isn't actually considering the differences between the two movements and is making comparisons based on two blank slates. As feminists, many feminists harm others because of their feminism. In fact, the worldview and belief system that drives the most powerful and influential members of the feminist movement is a worldview and a belief system that thrives on pedestalizing women as a group and demonizing men as a group. Your support for the harm they do derives simply from …
/r/MensRights09/06/22 04:13 AM
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Yes /u/Bisexolar14 Let's see you post the same.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 04:06 AM
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Very well said. I was always aware that there was an undercurrent of people unhappy with the sub. but it's starting to appear that the tight fisted moderation is struggling to keep the flow at bay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/22 12:16 AM
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Haven't seen a single discussion on it. I assume it's blacklisted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/22 10:21 PM
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My thoughts exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/22 05:17 AM
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Screenshot it first.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/22 10:14 PM
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As feminists, many feminists harm others because of their feminism. In fact, the worldview and belief system that drives the most powerful and influential members of the feminist movement is a worldview and a belief system that thrives on pedestalizing women as a group and demonizing men as a group. Your support for the harm they do derives simply from you describing yourself as feminist and therefore projecting an impression of unity of purpose with them. There is no way for a lawmaker or publi…
/r/MensRights03/06/22 12:03 PM
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This would do better as a post rather than a comment.
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/22 06:01 AM
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They're saying things along the lines of "the jury was mislead/rigged/made up of MEN!!!111!!1." Basically anything to justify their delusions.
/r/AntiFeminists01/06/22 09:49 PM
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Reddit also specifically allows hate against men. So frankly I don't really give a shit. If they want their rules to be taken seriously then they need to be applied to everybody.
/r/AntiFeminists31/05/22 02:31 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Here's the link. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment this one you may like as well/
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/22 08:36 AM
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This is EXACTLY the issue with feminist ideologues. They don't see individual men as people. Just part of "the patriarchy" They don't see their suffering. To them it's just a means to an end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/22 06:28 AM
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And I've known people that have been beaten by abusive women. I've known people that have had members of a minority group break into their homes. Beat them and Rob them blind. If any one of those people said I don’t trust women/minorities and feel unsafe around them. That’s just one thing I’ve been through, there’s so much more. Do you think they'd be given pity? Or be called racist/sexist? though kudos on how far you've came so far. I'm glad you're finding your way out of hate step by step. I u…
/r/PussyPassDenied25/05/22 04:54 AM
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Oh it's you again. Good to see your post is getting popular. Maybe this will be a Learning experience for you. No matter how "heated" you feel about the injustices committed by singular people. It does not justify hating entire groups that share traits with them. It wouldn't be justified if the man was a minority and you started saying you hate all brown people. It wouldn't be justified if it was a woman doing this and you said you hated all women. The only reason you think it's justified for me…
/r/PussyPassDenied25/05/22 04:43 AM
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So... Not rape. And we don't know what metrics they used to measure for all of the things under that definition.... Also note how you also cited the exact "penetration" definition I gave to you
/r/AntiFeminists25/05/22 02:46 AM
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Right. So have all the statistic gathering agencies similarly updated their definitions? and done new research with these expanded definitions?
/r/AntiFeminists25/05/22 12:21 AM
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Because rape is legally classified as "penetration" Men when raped by women aren't penetrated. They're made to penetrate. When you include statistics on made to penetrate. The stats come to near parity.
/r/AntiFeminists24/05/22 11:23 PM
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That's the problem though. Feminists will not participate if the rules aren't biased in their favor.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/05/22 07:01 PM
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What?
/r/AntiFeminists24/05/22 06:57 PM
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My guess is the following. Since I've had the exact same happen to me. For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. That is where most people get the idea rape is just a man on woman crime. Men are fairly rarely penetrated and it is almost always by another man. This also means that all of those stories you hear about a female teacher raping their underage students, according to the official government rape statistics, are n…
/r/AntiFeminists24/05/22 08:22 AM
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It sounds to me like you're extrapolating your issues onto the rest of the population. Having a "support network" has never really been an issue for me. You know what has? A failing mental health care system that pathologizes me for being born with a penis. And a complete lack of public and financial supports because men are supposedly "privileged" Do you know where those ideas come from? Because it's not from other men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/22 10:41 PM
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I'll copy an earlier comment addressing this. There is no way for a lawmaker or public policy maker to know that they, as an individual feminist, disagree with a specific change demanded by a feminist group or organization. Because they call themselves the same thing, the unity of purpose is implicit. Their voice is added, with that of every other feminist, in support of what those people, speaking from their intellectual authority as feminists, wish to enact or change. Civil conversation cannot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/22 09:37 PM
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And why do you think that this doesn't exist? Could it possibly be because of countless examples of feminist groups pushing against these things? And feminist groups pushing for their ideology to be used in the fields of male mental health. IE, Shaming men for being privileged oppressors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/22 09:29 PM
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Yeah, I'm not too personally active with the modding there but that's because the rest of the team is honestly extremely competent at keeping things under control.
/r/MensRights20/05/22 08:03 PM
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He got mad that somebody was calling circumcision "mutilation" and when it escalated to personal attacks he got mad in the modmail that the other person's comments weren't deleted and equated their words with "sexual violence"
/r/MensRights20/05/22 12:22 PM
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Feminist academics and groups have repeatedly lobbied against both equal parenting legislation and for male victims of female rapists to be counted legally as victims of rape.
/r/AntiFeminists19/05/22 11:02 PM
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What you're seeing is basically a weasel word used and twisted in such a way that men are always oppressors and women are always oppressed. The end result of the thought terminating cliche is that it's men's fault and it's women who suffer the most. Even where men suffer and women benefit it's supposedly our own fault and so we need to fix ourselves and stop being so terrible. That's the problem with "patriarchy" the second you look at it with even an ounce of critical thinking it falls apart.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/22 04:20 AM
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Because you can attempt more than once. But only commit a single time.
/r/AntiFeminists08/05/22 04:40 PM
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Don't you understand. Men are a monolithic oppressor class. Their individual lives and situations are irrelevant.
/r/AntiFeminists03/04/22 06:55 PM
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There's a user on that sub that goes by that name that's notorious for lying, misrepresentation and bad faith arguments. They're the type to take somebody saying "I think that scholarships should be gender neutral because men are falling behind in education" And frame it as "so you want to take scholarships away from women" Basically anything they can do to poison the well and make men's advocates look like the terrible misogynists they assume us to be. And they'll never allow somebody to clarif…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/22 02:08 AM
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The current mods have outright stated that they are more lenient on feminist posters and see men's advocates in a negative light.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/22 06:42 PM
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Said the rape apologist.
/r/AntiFeminists02/04/22 05:09 PM
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Said the pedophile.
/r/AntiFeminists02/04/22 01:29 AM
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Good to hear from the pedophile rape apologist. Apologizing to a female rapist. sending sexually explicit messages to a minor and here's the original /r/misandry https://www.reddit.com/r/a:t5_2qvq8/ (reddit admins are freeing up old unused subs so the name was changed but the actual sub and it's contents remain.)
/r/AntiFeminists01/04/22 09:40 PM
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It doesn't show my name but I'm the one they're talking to in this post. And yes. They absolutely said that. What bothers me the most is that they're worried about young men being radicalized and Yet they don't see that everywhere these young men go they get the message that they're monsters and that others are justified in hating them for things outside of their control. They're so stuck in their backwards feminist cult that they can't see us as people. Just evil patriarchal oppressors.
/r/AntiFeminists01/04/22 08:07 PM
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And so you don't think it makes sense to combat a movement that weaponizes that bias?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/22 10:44 PM
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You're making the same mistake feminists do and assuming men are a monolithic group with an innate in group bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/22 09:46 PM
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So we went from a society where nobody cared about gendered issues. To one where nobody cares about gendered issues of one gender. And you don't think this has anything to do with the movement for women's issues downplaying and fudging statistics to erase men's issues?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/22 05:41 PM
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They were also indifferent to women. That's the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/22 04:17 AM
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Most men didn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/22 03:21 AM
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And that same apathy was not there for women's issues?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 07:01 PM
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It seems you have a narrow US centric view. Though that's to be expected. I don't consider this to be liberal ideology. I consider this to be the fault of feminist academics and influential figures. Which make up a massive part of the lobbying entities in politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 05:43 AM
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And who do you think convinced them that this is the case? I've already given you examples of how feminists and feminist groups create bad statistics and legislation that promote the idea that men don't need help. Do you think this notion is secretly coming from elsewhere?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 02:44 AM
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They wouldn't have the support of all those that don't believe that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 12:38 AM
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There's literally a whole section in the above post explaining how it does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 05:45 PM
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Yet through adopting the label you put your support behind those misandrists. Thus why it is important to abandon it if you are not putting your efforts towards tackling the misandry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 06:59 AM
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And how many of them hold any level of institutional power?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 07:27 PM
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Exactly. They have the ability to do the same with misandry but choose to allow it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 07:24 PM
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This is something many of the critics of this post don't seem to get. There's two paths for feminists. Work to change your movement or accept that you are complicit in its misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 07:21 PM
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As per the above post And although it is your luxury to define what feminism means to you, it is the most active, powerful and visible members of feminism that get to define what feminism means to the rest of the world. You can't revoke their membership (it's a self-applied label), and they hold the political reins of your movement. There is no way for you to kick them out. The only way to unequivocally dissociate yourself and your beliefs from them and their beliefs (and the harm they do) is by…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 07:18 PM
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Your hollow words mean nothing compared to our experiences. There's a reason we have a section of our mission statement dedicated to the issues we've documented with the slib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 07:15 PM
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The feminist label and the support you offer to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 07:14 PM
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When the parts that erode it are in power and the parts that enhance it are not. Then only one side of that coin is making changes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 07:07 AM
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is implicitly supporting the misandrists within the movement? That is exactly what they are doing so long as they allow those misandrists to hold positions of power. As per the above There is no way for a lawmaker or public policy maker to know that you, as an individual feminist, disagree with a specific change demanded by a feminist group or organization. Because you call yourself the same thing they do, the unity of purpose is implicit. Your voice is added, with that of every other feminist, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 06:51 AM
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So what are you as a feminist doing to combat your fellow feminists that are pushing for discriminatory laws that are harming us? If it is nothing then your silence combined with your voluntarily adopting the label means that you are supporting the harm being done to us. Civil conversation cannot be had in the face of uncivil and harmful actions. If you want civil conversation then stand with us against those that would do us harm. if you are not willing then your calls for us to cease calling o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 06:48 AM
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I'll copy an older response since it covers this fairly well. Sure. As long as you find it acceptable that the rest of us point out that your entirely voluntary labeling of yourself as a feminist means that you, in effect, are supporting misandrist feminist groups that are pushing for discriminatory laws that harm us. Unless that is you wish to use your platform as a feminist to raise awareness of these issues and voice your condemnations. Though I warn you if you choose that path you will be qu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 05:01 AM
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I'm not sure if you know this but we've already been written off as such since the sub was in its infancy. At some point you've got to embrace that no matter what you do you'll be the villain to them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 04:05 AM
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Feminists are also responsible for stopping male victims of female rapists from being recognized in India, Israel, Nepal and the USA Now, Let's focus on that last one. For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. You should listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to …
/r/AntiFeminists23/03/22 07:57 PM
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The term was coined by a woman as a portmanteau of involuntary celibate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/22 07:43 PM
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Do you think the invading Russian forces are going to try and peacefully capture the Ukrainian resistance? Or are they going to kill them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 03:20 AM
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Innate human biases that feminist advocacy weaponizes. Feminist advocacy also weaponizes a number of innate and studied human biases that subconsciously push us to promote women's protection and their issues over men. Human beings are a gynocentric species – this means that we prioritize the needs and wellbeing of women over men. This is an evolved instinct that came about as a result of women being the limiting factor in reproduction – ie. women have a much lower ceiling on how many offspring t…
/r/AntiFeminists21/03/22 04:05 AM
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This is a bit long so I'm going to post two comments. I hope this is ok for you /u/abby_isntso_normal being against feminism is necessary for gender equality. This is a pretty long post. So I'm going to divide it into four main categories. Also this is a patchwork of various comments I've saved across reddit. Thanks to the original creators I have lost some of your names but if you see something you wrote and want to be credited. leave a comment and I'll edit it in. Feminist theory and underlyin…
/r/AntiFeminists21/03/22 04:04 AM
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I was not aware of this. You should make this into a post so we can spread the information around. I'll happily sticky it on LWMA.
/r/MensRights14/03/22 07:49 PM
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That's kind of what I think people mean when they say they don't think you're "well equipped" So much of the language and theory is thoroughly reinforced and rationalized that Personal criticism is shut down much the same way that being critical of one's religion doesn't work. Patriarchy for example must exist within feminists minds because women have been oppressed throughout history and men could work and vote. It isn't until you consider that the jobs men were working were things like literal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/22 08:00 AM
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I agree we should let them see it. But we should also include the message that silence allows this to continue happening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 08:55 PM
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I think there's more than a few men who would outright enjoy being catcalled.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 08:53 AM
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It should be acceptable to call yourself a feminist here Sure. As long as you find it acceptable that the rest of us point out that your entirely voluntary labeling of yourself as a feminist means that you, in effect, are supporting misandrist feminist groups that are pushing for discriminatory laws. Unless that is you wish to use your platform as a feminist to raise awareness of these issues and voice your condemnations. Though I warn you if you choose that path you will be quickly demonized an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 08:48 AM
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The term "feminism" is so broad that it can mean almost anything at this point anyway, including polar opposites of itself. As long as you don't buy harmful feminist rethorics, we should be cool. Those harmful rhetorics are the ones influencing laws. There is no way for a lawmaker or public policy maker to know that you, as an individual feminist, disagree with a specific change demanded by a feminist group or organization. Because you call yourself the same thing they do, the unity of purpose i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 08:43 AM
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There is no way for a lawmaker or public policy maker to know that you, as an individual feminist, disagree with a specific change demanded by a feminist group or organization. Because you call yourself the same thing they do, the unity of purpose is implicit. Your voice is added, with that of every other feminist, in support of what those people, speaking from their intellectual authority as feminists, wish to enact or change. That lawmaker or policy maker is not interested in getting to know e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 08:39 AM
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Sex without consent is rape.
/r/AntiFeminists08/03/22 12:36 AM
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I hope that everybody here who uses the app makes sure they report this. The amount of reports a video gets also gets taken into consideration on these things. even if it's not considered hate by their standards.
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/22 11:13 PM
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They're not. rape is measured as "penetration" men are not penetrated when raped by women. As such female rapists aren't measured in statistics. When you include men being "made to penetrate" in rape stats. they reach near parity.
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/22 10:42 PM
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This is an amalgamation of several posts I've amalgamated over the years. I could find the original posters or are you in need of the source with formatted links?
/r/AntiFeminists03/03/22 05:25 AM
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You've linked to a thumbnail image.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/22 05:48 PM
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I post on these subs because I'm immediately banned on any other feminist sub for going against their narrative.
/r/AntiFeminists01/03/22 10:53 PM
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I feel as though you're misreading this
/r/AntiFeminists01/03/22 09:01 PM
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You have my written permission to post it there if you'd like.
/r/AntiFeminists01/03/22 12:57 AM
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Oh I have a VPN backup waiting. But I'll document every ounce of this bullshit and be sure it's seen before I need to use it.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 09:21 PM
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For as backwards as the general politics of alberta seem to be. There certainly does appear to be a strong core of men's activists here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/22 04:30 AM
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We aren't a monolith. And research Indicates that the men in power are more likely to use that power to help women.
/r/MensRights18/02/22 08:48 PM
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What part of erasing male victims of domestic violence and rape from laws and statistics while thoroughly demonizing men is women's rights?
/r/MensRights18/02/22 06:04 PM
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What has the whole movement done to push back against her bigotry? Her methodology and definitions are still used by multiple institutions and governments to this day. You recognize that right? Male victims of rape are still not recognized on a systemic level. because of this "one" feminist. And there is a massive difference between those that share an ideology and those that share immutable characteristics. Also. As somebody that has actually studied history. men had it just as if not more shit…
/r/MensRights18/02/22 06:53 AM
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She's also one of America's most influential voices in sexual violence, who published America's first ever national study on rape in 1987. She is a leading voice who campaigned for a rape definition to exclude female on male sexual assault. This is a feminist who has been a consultant and reviewer for organizations such as the American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, World Bank, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the United States Department of Justice, …
/r/MensRights18/02/22 01:13 AM
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"Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman. p. 206” Koss, Mary P. (June 1993). "Detecting the scope of rape: a review of prevalence research methods". Journal of Interpersonal Violence. 8 (2): 198–222. doi:10.1177/088626093008002004. S2CID 14546…
/r/MensRights17/02/22 09:47 PM
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It was feminist academics who wrote male victims out of rape laws and statistics. I can give you audio interviews and statistics to back this up but IG those would be too complex for u to understand.
/r/MensRights17/02/22 06:11 PM

Rule 11.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 03:00 AM
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And they'll conveniently never campaign or speak out against the worst misandrist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/22 09:21 PM
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You're the one coming here decrying this for pointing out the root cause.
/r/MensRights15/02/22 05:44 PM
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What part of male victims of female rapists not legally being recognized as such is a right?
/r/MensRights14/02/22 06:49 PM
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So how would you address the issues brought up in this post?
/r/MensRights14/02/22 06:15 PM

While I agree with the intent of this post. right now it falls too far afoul of rule 11. So I'll have to remove it for now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 05:24 AM
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Congratulations. You made an assumption based on a few sentences and ended up missing just about every point made in the post. I want to note that this was in response to somebody who said and I quote. I don't have the mental conpacity to read this college thesis, but from the bit I've read in the beginning it sounds to me like you stuck in the 1920s The person I wrote that in response to literally admitted that they didn't read the post and then went on to mischaracterize everything that was be…
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:49 AM
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Doesn't tone matter if you want to win hearts and minds? Sure. What tone would you prefer this to be stated in while still ensuring the gravity of what is being said is undiluted? because in my years of experience. It's not going to be listened to either way. There's a relatively famous interview with Cassie jaye. The now ex-feminist who made the red pill documentary. Where she goes through her experiences interacting with and interviewing MRA's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY&t=1s&…
/r/MensRights13/02/22 08:09 AM
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Ahh right. So when black people kill one another it's not a problem because they're doing it to themselves? Did the Holocaust not affect the Jewish people living in Germany because "they were doing it to themselves" Consider that you're invalidating the suffering of countless innocent people because they were born the same way as others. There is no other unifying factor besides having the same genitalia. Your stunning lack of empathy and compassion is telling. You're not willing to see the youn…
/r/MensRights13/02/22 05:14 AM
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I just did. You didn't mention "men" anywhere in your first comment.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 03:17 AM
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Can you show me where? I'm not seeing you mention men anywhere.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 03:04 AM
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And men USED to be forced to die in the mines and trenches. Women weren't uniquely more oppressed than men. Both genders had it shitty in different ways.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 02:21 AM
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Who do you think is more oppressed? The women staying at home being housewives? or the men dying in the mines and trenches?
/r/MensRights13/02/22 02:11 AM
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Yes. This is called tone policing. I'm not misunderstanding you.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 02:11 AM
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Right. So you're just tone policing. How terrible of me to not be completely kind to a movement that has pushed for legal discrimination against men and affected me on a deeply personal level.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 02:04 AM
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I've studied history in college. That's part of why I made this post and hold the position I do. Don't assume everybody that disagrees with you is uneducated.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 02:00 AM
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Right. So you haven't read it and you assume it's anti women. So I assume if that's the case you also believe that expanding the current definition of rape to include men raped by women is also anti women? Or did you not read that part as well?
/r/MensRights13/02/22 01:56 AM
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in the united states most country were not democracy they were monarchs also counter to what you said at the beginning about the UK You do realize that the United States is a single country right? 1928: Women in England, Wales and Scotland received the vote on the same terms as men (over the age of 21) as a result of the Representation of the People Act 1928. Yes. And that was ten years after The Representation of the People Act 1918 was an Act of Parliament passed to reform the electoral system…
/r/MensRights13/02/22 01:53 AM
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Congratulations. You made an assumption based on a few sentences and ended up missing just about every point made in the post. Also antisemitic means to be hostile to or prejudiced against Jewish people. I assume with context you meant something more along the lines of biased or prejudiced.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 01:37 AM
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Where? In the UK the vote was given to women like ten years before women. And only because so many men died in world war 1 without that right only to turn around and give that same right to women. And how many other countries had a ten to no year gap? to list a few there's Australia, Finland, Sweden, Russia, Estonia, Netherlands, Hungary, Poland, Ireland, The U.K, Armenia, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Latvia, Luxembourg, Canada, Lithuania, Sri lanka, Thailand, Philippines, Lebanon, Jamaica, B…
/r/MensRights13/02/22 12:40 AM
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Here's a running list of the issues we have documented with menslib over in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates They've often lied to downplay male issues, particularly false rape accusations which they claim are less prevalent than being struck by lightning. They also censored anyone who debunked those lies. Though there are many things you're not allowed to debate on MensLib, one thing they do consider up for debate is whether "ironic" "cathartic" misandrist memes are okay. The answer should be obvious, …
/r/MensRights11/02/22 08:26 AM
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Thanks for the recommendation homie!
/r/MensRights11/02/22 08:24 AM
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This is just another pebble on the mountain of evidence that the people who use the term don't understand the "academic definition" they so often hide behind and only use it to describe "a man doing things I don't like"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/22 09:39 PM
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Because it is an area where men have it worse both legally and societally. It is neither legal or acceptable to do the same for women. You have to remember that there are feminists who believe that saying men have it worse in Any way is misogynistic. And that's why discussions are so frequently shut down altogether.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/22 09:48 PM
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Oh. then why do you think discussions about addressing it are so vehemently shut down? Particularly when there's such a massive movement that has made apparent how disgusting it is when we do the same to girls?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/22 07:32 PM
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Oh. I see. I had forgotten that it's no longer widely practiced or perfectly legal. And that it's treated with the same level of disgust as doing the same to baby girls.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/22 06:40 PM
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How terrible of them to get upset over the mutilation of a babies genitals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/22 09:16 AM
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It also spits in the face of the supposedly feminist idea of intersectionality. But they'll never admit it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/22 11:13 PM
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It should also be noted that 3/4 of their mod team are banned from here for things like being unwilling to recognize that people who disagree aren't just uneducated and consistently arguing in bad faith to outright promotion of misandry They also have clear double standards and welcome hate towards men while deleting and heavily moderating even lax criticisms of feminist ideology due to "civility" rules that conveniently forget how uncivil it is to justify or diminish the effects of hatred towar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/22 02:42 AM
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I don't think so either. But the implications of that being the case and them just being that ignorant of the experiences of so many men is just perplexing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/22 02:34 AM
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That's kind of the issue. It was exactly that yet it was removed as criticism of their moderation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/22 10:12 PM
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There was a big discussion on the malementalhealth sub a few days ago on this topic. OP had clearly been through some shit And was tired of feminists gaslighting him over his "privilege" Others in the comments decided that this was the perfect opportunity to educate him about how he was wrong about the term. Even though it wasn't him who was using it the wrong way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/22 10:09 PM
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Exactly. Questioning the narrative is not welcome regardless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/22 10:02 PM

I'm sticking this to the top because not only is it a decisive criticism of harmful language. And how hiding behind the "academic definition" Is often nothing more than a Motte and Bailey. But also of the harmful moderation practices that uphold and reinforce a toxic status quo in the menslib community. The fact that this post contains a comment that was removed for being critical of the moderation outside of modmail (a private chat where the mods can mute you, hide their identities and secretly…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/22 12:39 PM
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Even then id consider that the reporting rate is likely low due to years of systemically treating men as if they can't be raped and telling victims to "man up"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/22 08:52 PM
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The only reason we have stats showing "the majority of rapes are committed by men" is because the definition of rape used to collect that number excludes male victims of female perpetrators by only counting "penetration" The only way they're counted is if the woman shoves something in their ass or mouth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/22 06:47 AM
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yet instead of merging and forming a gender egalitarian group that tackles all gender related issues in society, these groups clash against each Imho. This is 90% due to feminists being completely unwilling to concede that men aren't oppressors. The basis for all of their theories and beliefs predicate on this. And if it isn't true they have to essentially rebuild from the bottom up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 06:10 AM
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I've had a feminist recently tell me wholeheartedly that stating women weren't the biggest victims was sexism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 05:54 AM
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Tbh I don't see this as a bad thing. Menslib has been getting noticeably better. more discord between them and feminist groups means more people awakening to the notion that feminists actively despise men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 05:52 AM
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I could. Signed. A guy with a normal IQ.
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/22 08:24 PM
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Check the top all time post. It's all in there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 06:30 AM
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There's advocacy. And then there's "advocacy" that's actively harmful and counterproductive. Can you be certain that it's one and not the other?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 07:36 AM
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A lot of us have been exposed to harmful gaslighting and accusatory approaches to men's issues that treat systemic problems as purely personal or moral failings. I'm not a fan of pure cynicism either but it's hard to "believe it until we see it" when it comes to these matters
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 07:24 AM
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The Reddit admins have outright stated that discrimination against men is allowed.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 06:29 PM
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"Women weren't the ones dying in the mines and trenches" is my favorite rebuttal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 06:31 AM
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I reworded the exact statements given and made it instead about feminists. it was removed. This is selectively allowing offensive speech against just men. not to mention several other comments being removed for similar "Civility" rules.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/01/22 02:04 AM
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Would you mind making a post out of this comment? or allowing me to do so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 12:14 AM
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Your evidence?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/22 07:07 PM
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Ahh. Right.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/22 07:07 PM
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No. I've been stuck tapdancing on the poverty line for the last ten years of my life. I have little to no access to therapy or other mental health support because of it. and there's no way I can find that would allow me to move up in the world that doesn't involve education. Something I have zero access to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/22 01:42 AM
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I think the response /u/problem_redditor gives you is more than sufficient. I just wanted to add one final thing. The issues of men's mental health run a lot deeper than just feminists shutting down support services. They've actively within higher up positions where they're implementing procedures that assume men and masculinity are "damaged goods" that need reform. Due to assumptions like "masculinity requires men to engage in acts of psychic self-mutilation" (via hooks). Just open the APA’s ne…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 09:34 PM
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And what is up with mens groups anyways?? There's so few to choose from. And there's no "Big Feminism" for men, like a political group that specializes in men and boys birth control, rape, mental health, physical health, social disadvantages, education, housing. I don't even have an equivalent name. MensLib? MRA? Masculism? Idk. Not who you were responding to. But this is also due largely to "Big feminism" Advocacy for men is very quickly shut down and demonized. For example. There was a proposa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 12:38 AM
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You're welcome. I think you should make a post about this and your experiences if you're willing. It's one of those things that helps immensely. Feminism like it or not is very cult like in the way it operates There's little to no tolerance for questions or critical inquiry. But more importantly, to many feminists there is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always portrayed as wrong in leaving, negative or even evil. So having people who leave the label speak up about their expe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 12:31 AM
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I think you should consider making this into a post!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/22 08:43 PM
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I think other comments get into the fruit of the problem here. that this advice is often seen as misogynistic. This is because we're currently sitting in a half complete sexual revolution. men have been thoroughly taught not to expect traditional gender roles from women. And thus women have been freed from them. But women still expect traditional gender roles from men. And yet the onus is still somehow on men to change. And this issue is a result of that. men are expected to approach and initiat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/22 08:16 AM
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Ahh apologies. I'm so used to those terms being thrown around that I forget that not everybody know what they mean by default. PUA means pickup artist. TRP means The Red Pill.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/22 02:53 AM
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The same reason that the warning signs of a cult overlap so well with feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/22 01:39 AM
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It's a pretty clear comparison. "We don't hate X demographic. Just their evil, sinful ways"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/22 01:36 AM
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This is something that I've answered indirectly many times before. But Im happy to get a chance to directly answer. I think you should label yourself something else. Because it's important to establish a firm connection with feminism and the shitty things people have done under its flag. Because too often people will dismiss this kind of thing to defend their ideology and the result is an inadvertent defense of said nasty shit. People deserve to know that this IS feminism. And this IS what blind…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/22 05:47 PM
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Hey. Haven't seen you post in a while. Welcome back!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/22 12:50 AM
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They do! In the same way that bible thumping christians "help" LGBTQ people by "beating the sin out of them"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/22 10:18 PM
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I think she and the massive institutions that back her and use her methodology absolutely represent feminism. if feminists don't like that then they should be working to fix the issue and trying to repair the damage done.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/22 09:12 PM
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I think that's my biggest problem with their "condemnation" She and the organizations that both back her and use her methodology are absolutely feminist. There's even a frequent argument when this is brought up that feminists lobbied to change the FBI definition to one inclusive to men. What the people who say this don't realize is that they lobbied it to be changed to the exact same definition koss uses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/22 07:27 PM
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Yeah. I'm surprised at the menslib comments to be honest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 11:26 PM
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Exactly. There was once an experiment done by a woman where she sent unsolicited vag pics to men to see how they would react expecting them to "Get a taste of their own medicine" Unsurprisingly to anybody. Every singly one of the men reacted positively.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/22 06:23 PM
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I saw a comment recently that pretty much went as such. In the case of men and women it's a bit peculiar compared to other dichotomies because they both make up 50% of the population. But the same logic is often applied. Because women as a group are seen as marginalized and men as a group are supposedly privileged, you can just about say anything going against men, make any negative generalization you want, and it's okay because it's "punching up". In fact, if as a man you voice negative emotion…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/21 11:04 PM
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https://imgur.com/z6oLeKc I have a somewhat different theory that's explained well through this image. But to put it briefly. It's the golden rule "treat others how you would like to be treated" It's just gone sour because there is a difference in how men and women see that attention. For many men. Getting catcalled or even complimented is a rare occasion. Hell, I still remember getting complimented on my eyes seven or eight years ago by a guy making my sandwich at a subway. This considered. it'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/21 08:35 AM
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https://globalnews.ca/news/7694387/alberta-war-room-netflix-bigfoot-family/ It's pretty much the only thing I've heard of their 30 million dollar per year "war room" do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/21 08:28 PM
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Oh and let's not forget the Alberta government's campaign against a children's movie about bigfoot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/21 08:13 PM
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I'd prefer to combat the greater evil.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/21 04:18 AM
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so is a "movement for equality" that actively defends the idiots that say such things at every turn.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/21 03:55 AM
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I'm glad it could be useful to you!
/r/MensRights10/12/21 08:36 PM
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If you'd actually read the sub and what myself and others have been telling you. That's not what we do at all. And you once again have a pretty skewed idea of what constitutes "left wing"
/r/MensRights10/12/21 12:16 PM
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I think you have a pretty skewed idea of what constitutes "left wing" my dude. We actually have a section in our sidebar explaining what we mean by left wing If you'd like a link so you can read through it.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 12:07 PM
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And you conveniently can't remember why you actually left either.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 11:51 AM
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Moreso you lied and got caught.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 11:44 AM
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With the vitriol and lies I'm surprised you weren't banned tbh. At least then you'd actually have some evidence for your claims.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 11:42 AM
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I mean I definitely recommend reading the mission statement if you want to really learn more. But it's also a lot to go through and I don't like telling people to do something I wouldn't lol.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 10:50 AM
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There's a lot of things and what matters differs for each person you ask. We've actually had a few threads on it if you want to read through them. But What I like in the sub and aim to promote is conversation. We have specific rules limiting things like memes, rage bait and low effort content while encouraging more long form discussions. And here's a couple of those comparison posts if you feel like reading. But most of them kinda just say the same thing in different ways. https://www.reddit.com…
/r/MensRights10/12/21 10:31 AM
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We don't. There's been several posts detailing the issues we have with menslib along with a hefty section in our mission statement going into a number of shitty misandrist things the mods of menslib have done. Seems to me like the fellow you're responding to read the "left" part and immediately discounted the sub.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 10:05 AM
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Feminism is based on left-wing ideology, left-wing ideology is based on romanticism philosophy, a core idea of which is that reality and data can be disregarded to further a chosen narrative Is this really the only evidence you have against LWMA? or is there something of actual substance?
/r/MensRights10/12/21 10:02 AM
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So uhh. where has LWMA done this? I mean. I'm one of the head mods and I'd kind of like to know if stuff like this is flying under my radar.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 10:00 AM
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So hey. Just checked our moderation history. Nothing comes up for your name. aside from that message you sent to us which I'll get to. But I was curious to see if you had gotten a warning. So I checked your comment history going back to before LWMA was a thing. You've apparently never commented there. Unless you've deleted the comment on your own. I'd be able to see it if we deleted it. Your only interaction with the sub has been you giving us this warning. Followed by one of our mods stating "W…
/r/MensRights10/12/21 09:59 AM
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I wish it was uncommon. But I honestly believe that it comes from a mix of internalized shame and "woke" bullying. There's a popular tweet that went around a while back. I don't feel like linking the image but you can google the text to find it. It goes as such. “The reason why so many extremely woke people turn out to have been bigoted in the past is because bigotry used to be the best way to bully and intimidate people, but now performative anti-bigotry is the best way to bully and intimidate …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/21 08:47 PM
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It's a pretty effective double bind when you think about it. It's the dual message telling men to open up and that feminist spaces are the place to do so. And then the same message that men should shut up in feminist spaces because women's issues take precedence. There's also the issue that so frequently comes up wherein men are attacked for opening up the wrong way. Just yesterday I had a conversation on the malementalhealth sub wherein I shared one of your posts on toxic masculinity and one gu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/21 05:20 PM
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Incredibly well said! Have you ever considered making one of your posts/presentations focusing on them and/or similar toxic men's communities? I understand that you may not want to directly call them out or start any unnecessary drama. But it would make for a nice resource to post in response to when it's inevitably suggested as "the only good men's community" or whatever they're advertising it as now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/21 10:05 AM
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I would honestly love to hear your input on that. I have my own issues with the sub. But I find that you have a more kind and nuanced take on these things. Unless you don't want to get into it. Which is fine as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/21 12:38 AM
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Ehh. I'll allow it for now because it's 2 am and I want to go to bed. If any of the other mods want to undo this and remove it then go ahead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/21 09:03 AM
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From my perspective. The ones doing harm are the ones saying the things like what you've said above.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/21 09:02 AM
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Troll begone! EDIT: and before you try to come back with some BS about me shutting you down because I disagree. It's because shit like And us men are like “wahhh stop saying all my masculinity is toxic, I like the idea of having a daddy in the home who writes the checks and mommy who washes dishes, that’s what my house was like growing up and I’m just FINE! So respectful and a good person! :) :) :) >:~[“ Meninists/Jordan Peterson: “WAHHH STOP, NOT ALL MEN HURT WOMEN. STOP SAYING WE HURT WOMEN WI…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/21 08:42 AM
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Fair enough. I've removed it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/21 12:36 AM
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Maybe. I think their hateful beliefs should be made apparent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/21 11:08 PM
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Oh that's just a little bit of a joke. Several people are aware of that troll and their tendencies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/21 10:30 PM
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Yes. In civil discussions of this fashion, it is expected that you prove your claims. We are not a religion. There is not a set doctrine we follow where anything is taken as a given. and ideological purity tests only serve to create an elitist insular community that eventually self cannibalizes. IF that is what you enjoy for some strange masochistic reason, This is not the community for you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/21 03:56 AM
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Ok. What specifically do you want sources on?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/21 03:49 AM
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You want sources for years of studying history? Try reading a book.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/21 12:30 AM
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Who assigned the legal responsibilities? generally they were assigned by the wealthy/powerful. but often they were based in historical survival strategies. How do you know women weren’t against those arrangements? There's several women's groups that fought against suffrage because they believed it would go hand in hand with being included in the draft like it was for men. What informs your assertions here? Having studied history. Why do you defend systems of power that don’t even benefit you? We…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 11:42 PM
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Ie. Gaslighting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 11:01 PM
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And the relevance of this is?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 09:55 PM
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So an entirely seperate entity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 09:41 PM
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Dworkin yes. But i think your lack of luck with the other two is telling. It's hard to find voices speaking out against them. And that's a problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 09:08 PM
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And what "side" would you say they sit on?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 09:03 PM
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That's kind of the point I tried to outline.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 07:33 PM
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Really? I've never actually seen any prominent condemnation of them or what they said
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 07:31 PM
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I don't advocate for or endorse the hate that often comes out of some incel/TRP communities. But seeing just how many of them are often direct victims of this kind of misandric rhetoric it honestly makes me wonder how feminists don't realize that they're creating their own bogeymen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 07:30 PM
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The difference being that those people you listed have no recognition in any established groups as far as I'm aware of. Everybody I've listed is somebody with at least some level of prominence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 06:20 PM
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Excellent job!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 06:54 AM
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I think not recognizing them or treating them as such goes a long way imho
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 02:37 AM
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I have literally only ever heard of cernovich
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 12:21 AM
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/u/a-man-from-earth I know that crossposting is generally against our policy. But I'm still on mobile and I wanted to share this post here just in case it gets taken down there before I have a chance to archive it. And if anybody else reads this. Please archive this post lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 11:32 PM
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Yeah, I'll do that as soon as I'm back at my desktop
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 10:19 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 10:02 PM
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Do you have any demonstrable links between this convention I've never heard of and the MRM?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 10:00 PM
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I think that it's hard to avoid those things. Feminism is coded left and so pretty much any advocacy for men is seen as right wing. And there is an overlap in concern when it comes to mrm and redpill ideas. The entire system of dating and courtship is shitty for men in a number of ways. But the mrm and the redpill just offer different solutions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 09:13 PM
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Do you have a link to this? I'd love to add it to our mission statement section on menslib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 03:36 PM
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That's far from the only example. It's just the most well known.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 07:03 PM
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Oh I'm aware. The parameters are purposefully defined.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:10 AM
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I absolutely think it's fear of ostracism. There are many who outright label men's advocates incel terrorists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/21 09:44 PM
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Anti women is shitty and we should make an effort to both educate people and help men heal from the trauma that causes those mindsets. Anti feminism on the other hand is a necessity for men's advocacy so long as feminism promotes discrimination against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/21 09:39 PM
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Is this about the mrm or feminists?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/21 08:59 PM
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Several of his most quoted articles are written in direct response to feminist articles and sentiments. Which is why a lot of them have disclaimers now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/21 08:58 PM
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I have seen a lot of complaints about the former being characterized as the latter to shut them down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/21 08:55 PM
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I went and checked out her other content and it's a straight up red flag exhibition. To list a few examples of content she's posted lying about being on birth control to a guy she thinks is rich. outright talking about how she uses guys for free meals. several other break up stories and not a lot else. Wouldn't be surprised if she was active on FDS.
/r/MensRights25/11/21 02:07 PM
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That's honestly something that's always annoyed me. Men can never just be unlucky. It has to be their fault somehow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 01:23 AM
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What leads you to think it isn't?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/21 06:54 PM
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So I saw this and thought it was worth sharing. There are some interesting notes like the fluctuation that seems to happen. With men. But the recent spike is something surprising. Men aren't having sex. And I'm curious on why that is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/21 01:28 PM
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Yeah. That bots a big part of why /r/trueoffmychest exists and thrives. When it first started happening people took notice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/21 04:37 AM
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That's a great idea! You should make a post and I'll sticky it. I'd do it myself but I'm not at home at the moment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 08:50 AM
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I just wanted to share this here to note that many of the high up comments are noting that men cannot legally be raped in many parts of the world. Like I said in my other post. Awareness is growing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 08:00 AM
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I feel as though the "patriarchy and male privilege backfiring" narrative is one that is being pushed as a means to maintain a status quo. Not in like a "We designed it to be used in this way" sort of conspiracy sense. But in more of a "Well, It's getting harder to deny that these things exist. But we're still totally right and it's just their system of oppression backfiring on them"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/21 10:14 PM
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A good opportunity to shill /r/warlocksvsmisandry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/21 07:56 PM
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The rules are made and enforced in such a way that encourages in depth discussion. And there's a focus on left wing perspectives
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/21 10:16 AM
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I can provide you with several articles. I'll start with this one for domestic violence because it's one of the most damning. And I'm going to specifically try not to inundate you with links because it seems like you're actually willing to hear me out and learn about these things. But I'll include some other topics I can cite. so if you want me to expound on any just say the word. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partne…
/r/MensRights17/11/21 03:57 AM
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I don't see how it's at all equal though. On one side, sure. some MRA's say mean shit on the internet. On the other side. Feminists have been working to systemically deny evidence that men are abused at equal rates to women. And have actively pushed to exclude male victims from rape laws and statistics.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:37 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/R5HIvua One side is explicitly and specifically allowed while the other is cracked down on.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:35 AM
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I also noticed their lack of posts. And like said hopefully they're taking a break.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/21 03:15 PM
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It's all good. I don't necessarily want credit. I just want people to have access to a level of evidence that's hard to dismiss.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 07:14 AM
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Just piggybacking off this one in case mine doesn't go anywhere. https://imgur.com/a/R5HIvua I was the one who took that. https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/meljzd/if_youre_not_going_to_do_anything_about_hate_on/ It was in regards to the above post.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 01:39 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/R5HIvua A few months ago a screenshot I took went around where one of the admins explicitly stated that their rules against hate don't extend to men. I cropped it initially but that's the full screenshot just in case you need to prove it was me. That conversation was in regards to This post here. https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/meljzd/if_youre_not_going_to_do_anything_about_hate_on/ I've since been banned from that sub. Oh. And since I scrolled past it looking fo…
/r/MensRights16/11/21 01:37 AM
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Yup. Male privilege in action.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/21 01:54 AM
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The core concept as I understand it is that androgynous looking men can get away with presenting feminine and "pass" with less funds. And passing as a woman lowers the bar for needing social skills and being below average in terms of appearance as a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/21 02:30 PM
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This is fair. But at the same time as I said above the biased nature of the questions is only going to result in biased findings. There's a lot of misinformation and demonizing narratives about men's advocates. And many people in this community have suffered as a direct result of the one sided approaches I mentioned above (things like victims of abuse and sexual assault not being able to find justice or facing discrimination and hate that is deemed justified by the "oppressor oppressed" dichotom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 01:57 PM
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So. I went through the survey to see for myself what kind of bias existed The first several questions would be better worded by removing gender all together IMHO. And it doesn't get better from there. one of the big issues with a feminist perspective that you're going to see a lot of push back on from non-feminist men's advocates is that sexism is often portrayed in a one directional fashion. Men are seen as perpetrators and women are seen as victims. This is not a view that's shared here or in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 09:11 AM
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It was approved initially but we don't always have the time to look through surveys like this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 05:15 AM
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So. In every historical case of one group oppressing another. It inevitably worked out in such a way that the oppressed group would be sacrificed and made to suffer for the betterment of the oppressor group. So why in historic disasters and wars is it that men. the supposed oppressor class has sacrificed themselves for the betterment of the people they supposedly oppress? Because men aren't an oppressor class. Both men and women are affected by gender roles. But pinning the blame on either of th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 12:36 AM
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I know this has been posted around before. But I hadn't realized that the PDF is apparently free to download from this site. (at least it was for me) So I wanted to share it around. To copy the abstract. the first part of this article summarizes results from more than 200 studies that have found gender symmetry in perpetration and in risk factors and motives for physical violence in martial and dating relationships. It also summarizes research that has found that most partner violence is mutual …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/21 04:33 AM
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I talked about this a while back. But something to note is that the anime community (where the term originates) actively promotes a sort of self deprecative style of humor. It's kind of an extension of other nerdy self deprecative humor. In the words of that dude from game of thrones. "Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength, then it can never be your weakness. Armor yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you." With that in mind I find it hard t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/21 09:34 AM

I have no idea how this is related to men's issues so I'm removing it. Even if it were to include men it would be a real tightrope walk to keep things within the rules. So this is partially to alleviate work on the mod team
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/21 09:28 AM
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Like said. They don't see men as a group that faces gendered issues. They see men as the group that creates and enforces gendered issues. Addressing that being pressured into a fathership role is part of the male gender role would throw a wrench into their enforced feminist ideology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 02:26 AM
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I think you'd be surprised how cult like feminist ideology is. like you can look up "warning signs of a cult" and 9 times out of 10 they'll line up https://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html Note that all but one of the examples from the first list fits. And even that one is questionable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 02:17 AM
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Menslib is feminism first, men maybe. Keep that in mind. I assume Most of the mod team there are coming at this from an incredibly privileged background. Something they think is shared among all men. Because they live in ideologically closed off circles where that's a given. In their perspective "deadbeat dad's" are a problem internal to men. Because within the feminist framework. Men are the problem. I can even dig up examples of where the mod team there thinks that men consenting to have sex i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/21 10:35 PM
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The problem that's been kind of pointed out is that the Duluth model wasn't only created by a feminist. It is based in feminist theory. And in all the discussion they had this wasn't brought up once. Sure they can criticize the misandry that results from it. But it wasn't created in a void. And even the creator has come out to say that they went into it with a preconceived idea about men and ignored all the evidence that they were wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 06:42 AM
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Lmao it's all good my dude. We're not above anybody here. That's why I like to have these conversations out in the open. And you would probably have to actively look for my name on any mod actions. The rest of the mod team does such an incredible job that I honestly struggle to find things to do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 11:58 PM
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I'm not sure if you're aware of this but myself and the person I'm responding to are essentially the leadership of this sub. And personally. I do encourage criticism. The mentality they encourage is actively harmful in a multitude of ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 11:43 PM
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Yeah. While I don't want to discourage discussion maybe we should put up a FAQ section?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 11:32 PM
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The simple answer is that menslib is feminism first, men maybe. You can see on the subreddit overlap what the most common communities users of the sub post on are. And it's really telling. https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/menslib We actually have a section in our mission statement regarding them (though I understand a lot of people won't have read it) And I welcome people to suggest additions or alterations to it. They've often lied to downplay male issues, particularly false r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 09:24 PM
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If you wanted to highlight that and use some examples I'd re-approve it. But upon first reading it comes across as rage bait.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 07:32 PM

This was reported for generalizing feminists. Now this isn't against the rules. But this post does break our rules on low effort posts and keeping the topic related to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 07:10 PM
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Because they've been indoctrinated with the notion that men are an oppressor class. To them men having issues is like interrupting a BLM protest because jeff bezos stubbed his toe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 11:15 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/thetinmen/?hl=en They mainly post on instagram.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 01:59 AM
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Thus why I used sci hub. Could be that they shuffle it around now and then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 12:03 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment This is the article that was linked. I used sci hub for reasons that are hopefully clear.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/21 09:56 PM
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/u/thetinmenblog is doing a pretty great job IMHO. One thing we could do is to try and support them in their work. And share their content around. While using the framework of their work (easily digestible infographic style presentations) to expand onto other social media platforms.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/21 09:49 PM
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Exactly. While games media (And the far "woke" left in general) was busy calling it's core demographic entitled, privileged, toxic, racist, misogynist, etc. All the Alt-right needed to do was walk in like "Hey fuck those guys right?!?" Yet people will still treat it as some nefarious "pipeline" that you need to constantly be on watch for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/21 12:53 PM
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Yeah, It's been a personal motto of mine to just not believe shit that's on the news. I'm also a cord cutter who hasn't watched TV in like 6 years so that helps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 11:03 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't think the alt-right pipeline is that nefarious and actively opportunistic. It starts with the BS on the far left and within feminism. The pipeline to the alt-right starts with the feminist/far left dismissal of peoples issues and demonization of those people as a group. Those same people who who aren't being heard will go find communities where they are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 11:00 PM
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So, It's been a few years since the whole Gamergate fiasco. But I was listening through this video and I thought it could make for some interesting conversations. Most people wouldn't know this but I actually started this account to talk about gamergate. But for a lot of people off of the internet. Gamergate was their first exposure to the dreaded "SJW" and the "Gender wars" as I've heard them called. I don't have a whole lot to include on my thoughts of the video. I know it's a bit long so I ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 08:56 AM
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Good for you! Let us know how it goes or if there's anything we can do to help support you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 08:49 AM
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The way I see it is that the author is trying to appeal to people who don't care about being shitty to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 01:21 PM
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To those who think that men who watch porn to see women degraded or objectified, to perpetuate feelings that they are lesser or deserve to be reduced to hyper-realistic sex toys, yes, that may unfortunately be true for some men, but not all. Some men simply want to understand more about women, which they cannot reasonably explore in other ways, to feel some kind of connection where otherwise a purely mechanical act of sexual release is only a fractionally small part of the experience of sex and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 02:28 AM
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Needless to say, we gave our friend-of-a-friend a stern talking to afterwards, but the damage was done. I feel like this, along with general empathy towards rejecting people is sorely needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 02:11 AM
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I think people are doing a pretty good job of highlighting the differences. so I'll keep my own input brief. Admittedly I see the subs as close in relation. I'd even say we're in the middle of the main MR sub and the 'slib The big difference I see is that we encourage discussion and dialogue over the outrage porn commonly found on the main sub. or performative back patting bordering on self flagellation of the 'slib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 12:39 AM
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I agree. As a man who went through a lot of years being ashamed of my sexuality I feel like this message needs to be echoed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 11:15 PM
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Can I make this into a post? It's very well written and I think a lot of good discussion can come out of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 04:37 AM
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I think I commented on the same post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 04:33 AM

This was reported for personal attacks. Trolls gonna troll. EDIT: Also fuck it. Just because of the false report I'm going to make it an announcement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/21 09:10 PM

This was reported for not being about men's issues. Seeing as it directly references men's issues I disagree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/21 04:55 PM
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This is IMHO a large portion of why men's advocacy is so often painted as hateful. people aren't willing to examine their own biases and fall for tribalistic nonsense. ALSO Men lack an in-group bias based on gender Men are more willing to sacrifice men than women Men and women have a negative reaction to studies that show sex differences favouring men. But positive reaction for the opposite. Stereotypes have changed over time and now more people think women are superior to men than the other way…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/21 06:00 AM
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Subs can't IP ban. Reddit can.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 07:15 PM
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Alts are fine. You just can't create an alt to go to a sub you've been banned from. Reddit tracks who's logged in from what IP and if they see somebody ban evading they'll suspend both accounts involved. source: Tried it once.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 12:50 AM
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I'm a similar story. Spent a lot of years as a "nice guy"/burgeoning incel. started off into PUA. TRP wasn't really a thing or it was just getting started. But through that I started to recognize that the problems I was facing weren't with women. They were with the culture. Right around this time gamergate happened. And I became heavily involved. I actually made this account to post on the KIA sub because in my eyes I was in every way the "enemy". I was a lonely dude who went through a neckbeard…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 12:48 AM
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Because in their worldview women are the mostest oppressedest victims in the history of ever. and as such all conversations about anything should revolve around them first. and everybody else second.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/21 11:51 PM

So. I had a look into a few things. and I just wanted to post my findings here to advise everybody to take what is said on that sub with a Volkswagen sized grain of salt. We have one user who claimed that "when discussions about transphobia started (around the time when JK Rowling released her blog post). I even got temporarily banned for criticizing the subreddit" I looked up their username in modmail. And not only were they never banned. But they were actually a moderator for a period. We remo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/21 08:20 PM
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Have you read the full post? it's not just "complaining about comments from TwoX" It's pointing out that somebody wrote out a long empathetic response that pointed out just how toxic this is. And it was removed. on one of the largest feminist subs on the 19th-most-visited website in the world and 7th most-visited website in the U.S And the original post wasn't removed. A post poking fun at and demeaning male victims of suicide. This. shit. needs. to. stop. And it won't stop if people aren't made…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/21 07:03 AM
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It's worth examining for the simple fact that people don't seem to understand that this is a problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/21 06:17 AM
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It's not the sub that's the focus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/21 06:14 AM
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Makes sense. There's probably numerous factors including connection and attraction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/21 10:53 PM
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Yeah. I can understand how it may come across that way, but like said it seems like a stretch. like I'm bi and I can absolutely see how a straight guy may not get much out of intimacy and physical contact with other guys. there's plenty of people both men and women that I've hugged or held and it was just meh. The secret really does seem to be attraction. And it's only natural that straight men aren't attracted to other men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/21 09:39 PM
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I would lean very heavily towards cultural. When violence is a problem in minority communities we look at things like poverty. Lack of access to mental healthcare and healthcare. Systemic issues and generational trauma. I never understood why that goes out the window with men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/21 09:00 PM

This was reported for and I'm not kidding "We get it you hate gays" How this is in any way homophobic I do not understand. But whoever reported it is free to explain in a reply to this comment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/21 08:57 PM

Just wanted to tack on. the news makes money off of outrage and controversy. Making people angry gets them clicks and views. so that's what they aim for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 10:14 PM
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I don't think men can/should unilaterally decide to "financially abort" a child they did not want to have but their reproductive partner chose to keep. Ideally the decision would be made in the same time frame as the window for abortion. The man says he's out and the woman gets to decide if she's ready to raise the child on her own. Here I'm assuming "men's autonomy" is referring to bodily autonamy where he's obligated to work to make money to give to someone else? Or do you mean his freedom to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 06:48 PM
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But that's the whole point. Men's autonomy is not considered or protected. The man's situation is very often not considered at all. And missing the often stiff and innegotiable payments can result in jail time. The courts not giving a shit about men is why those rape victims are forced to pay their rapists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 06:14 PM
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I'm glad somebody archived that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 06:05 PM
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And this is why we have male rape victims being forced to pay child support to their rapists. Yea, it's the woman's body carrying the baby. But how do you think the man is going to make money for 18+ years. We don't get to go cash out our "male privilege" cheques.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 06:02 PM
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Otherwise a very good deconstruction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/21 11:06 PM
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Wow the exact same comment made from a separate account mere minutes after the first one was made and summarily removed. Somebody forgot to switch back to their alt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/21 11:01 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FeminismUncensored/comments/ps89p6/i_just_came_across_this_post_on_regalitarianism/hdsv33o/ Here's the link to the conversation. note that the comments of a certain "assassin" have been deleted for being childish insults.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/21 10:44 PM
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That's the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/21 09:59 PM

This was reported for promoting hate. I don't see how so It's staying up. Whoever reported it is free to leave a comment explaining how they see it as such.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/21 09:51 PM
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No one is systematically denying men sex or community and it’s dangerous to suggest otherwise. I would somewhat disagree. While there are no direct attempts. There are a lot of young men and boys and even lesbian/bisexual women who have internalized negative messages around expressing interest to women. As current vox journalist kelsey piper explains on her blog "the unit of caring" There are a hell of a lot of people attracted to women who seem to have internalized the message that their attrac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/21 08:55 PM
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I'm not sure about the mother's stat. But studies have found that most domestic violence is reciprocal. But in the cases where it's not it's perpetrators are women 70% of the time. This is what happens when it's socially acceptable to denigrate and berate men. Often for not living up to male gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/21 08:31 PM
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Depends on a lot of factors. A wealthy man is more privileged than a poor man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/21 12:42 PM
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It literally takes a Google search of his name to confirm his views. You could say incompetence but imho their ideology has their head so far up their own ass that they could stick out their tongue and tickle their prostate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/21 11:29 PM
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They know exactly what it is. They don't care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/21 10:54 PM
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I was banned because I tried posting about how the idea of inherent male privilege leaves men who are underprivileged unable to get help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/21 10:54 PM
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I'm not sure about having to serve. But the right to vote is in many places intrinsically linked to the draft and military service. when suffrage was extended to all men in Britain it was done towards the end of the first world war IIRC. And the main reason was that so many men were dying in the war without that right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/21 12:20 PM
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this is incredibly problematic because it frames men's struggles as a woman's issue. In the original threat a lonely guy googled "male friendships" and this I kid you not is the first thing that pops up. Feminists often get upset for men "hijacking the conversation" when they get involved in feminist communities and try to bring up men's issues. But this once again is the first thing that pops up when you google "male friendships" If people have a problem with hijacking the conversation when it …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/21 08:48 PM
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That's a plan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/21 10:54 AM
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Excellent. We need a good front line DPS.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/21 10:53 AM
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The reddit admins are fine with misandry. Do you remember the post that went around a while back where they said as much?
/r/MensRights13/09/21 07:49 AM
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I feel like they wouldn't take kindly to promoting subs but I'll try lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/21 07:28 AM
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It's already been pointed out but the deleted comment history is kinda sus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/21 05:44 AM
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I considered it but I wanted our nemesis to be something real.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 10:21 PM
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That's probably it lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 03:53 PM
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It may be different on new reddit. But it should be up there
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 03:51 PM
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I see that you're new to modding. For now i'd say get used to the modmail. it's the little shield next to your inbox. Just make a post in there and say hi to your fellow mods and explore the settings and such. Don't worry, like said you shouldn't be able to break anything. Otherwise Just hang tight. Gotta let the post ferment a lil.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 03:25 PM
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Sure. Just a note on my process. When somebody applies I skim your profile to make sure you're not a troll and don't have a history of trolling. If I don't find any i'll invite you on with limited permissions. that way nothing can be done that I can't fix. Just in case. After that more permissions are added based on need, activity and time spent as a mod.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 02:47 PM
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Abso-Fucking-Lutely!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 09:11 AM
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For those that can't tell. It's meant to be a parody of A certain other sub... with a similar name.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 08:30 AM
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So. I've created a new-new sub. /r/WarlocksVsMisandry It's going to be a parody of the feminist sub of a similar name. If you're still interested in moderating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 07:52 AM
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So. I've created a new-new sub. /r/WarlocksVsMisandry It's going to be a parody of the feminist sub of a similar name. If you're still interested in moderating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 07:52 AM
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Hmm. Noted. I'm not sure how /u/thetinmenblog gets around this aside from saving all the images and posting them to an imgur album.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/21 10:21 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/21 06:47 AM
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I figure this one could be more reddit focused. Also I'm not too happy with the lack of growth of that sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/21 04:38 AM
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I was thinking this one could be more reddit focused.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/21 04:36 AM

Reply to this comment for discussion. I'm probably going to remove non applicant top level comments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/21 02:18 AM
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Depends. Alberta health services are a bit slow IMO but they do get the job done.... Eventually. it really does depend on the service and where you are in the province though.
/r/MenSupportMen09/09/21 09:21 PM
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Then it's not "privilege" and shouldn't be used in the way it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/21 08:55 PM
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What show was this? not trying to find out what you look like or anything. I'm just baffled that this could be a scene and I'd love to make a post about it if it's as egregious as you say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/21 01:27 AM
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I've said this before. And I'll say it again. Anti-feminism is necessary for men's advocacy so long as feminism is anti-men.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 04:47 AM
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Oh yeah. EDIT: I've seen this information referred to as "feminist kryptonite" Along with Mary Koss. And I think that's pretty apt. Since it's a clear cut example of where feminist ideology has actively created institutional discrimination towards men. there's even a study that found that men who seek help are more likely to face discrimination and problems within the DV system than anywhere else. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3175099/ With these examples it's hard for feminists t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/21 10:50 PM
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This really deserves to be it's own post!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/21 09:06 PM
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That's what just blows my mind honestly. They KNEW what the guys views were. They're plastered all over the internet. I just googled his name and it was 100% duluth model BS.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/21 02:53 PM
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Well. You confirm that these norms are external. But then you still refer to the solution as "fixing ourselves" thus inferring that you want men to "man up" out of the norms. instead of addressing the norms.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/21 12:31 AM
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Because "men" as a group really didn't. And your own experiences are just that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 09:51 PM
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So instead of fixing society for the betterment of men so that these norms don't get pushed on people. You want men to "man up" out of the norms?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 09:05 PM
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What actions are you talking about? We have mountains of evidence of men loving women. But a cursory glance at the myriad men suffering disproportionately from things like homelessness, suicide, drug and alcohol abuse and etc. Shows us that what you're saying isn't the case. If society was shaped this way by men their intent clearly wasn't to help other men. If it was it wouldn't be men getting drafted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 09:01 PM
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And how did we do that? Because I don't remember being consulted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 07:22 PM
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I was banned from there years ago for trying to talk about how the idea of "privilege" can hurt men. Like seriously. If we assume men are all inherently privileged in some ethereal way it reinforces the idea that men couldn't possibly face any real issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 12:20 PM
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Labeling theory posits that self-identity and the behavior of individuals may be determined or influenced by the terms used to describe or classify them. Essentially. When you group the terms toxic and masculinity together. People are going to associate masculinity with being toxic regardless of what the "academic definition" means. which is where a lot of the root issues with the term lie.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 07:41 AM
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I think /u/MizuNomuHito brings up a good point in their response. But I want you to consider this. Most of those aspects are not inherent to masculinity. The problem with calling it toxic masculinity is that it really doesn't look at the issue from the perspective of the men engaging in the toxic behavior. To them, this is adaptive masculinity, because their childhood (or adult) circumstances led to them taking in all of these behaviors in order to survive physical abuse, emotional neglect, bull…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 07:25 AM
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Have you ever heard of labelling theory?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 04:41 AM
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Which is excellent! But for the moment we don't have anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 04:21 AM
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And what aspects are those?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 04:09 AM

So I was browsing through reddit and I came across these on a post critical of our sub (followed the typical thread of some rando coming here. Posting a clear ideological purity test and then going around reddit to talk about how evil we are for not answering the way they want) And I came across these comments. And I thought to myself that these are an excellent example of the problem many of us have with their approach to men's issues. I've seen many people refer to this as similar to the "orig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 01:29 AM
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Well. The way I see it. Unless you're offering an alternative your complaints are meaningless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 12:32 AM

I'm not entirely sure how this is related to men's issues. you'd probably be better off posting this in /r/mensupportmen
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/21 09:15 PM
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So all the books in a library are wrong because it's owned by people you don't like? I have a history textbook I bought from a store owned by an asshole. Does that mean the history in it is wrong?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/21 09:10 PM
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Are all the books in a library wrong because it's named after somebody you don't like?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/21 06:56 AM
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I don't see how this loses any integrity. It's just a place where information is stored. Like a library.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 11:06 PM
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Some will try to weasel out of this by making the claim that it's "not the same" because there's things like systemic racism that underlie those statistics. To refute this I like to ask them to consider that there may be similar underlying reasons for men that are more complex than "men bad"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:59 PM
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There is a pretty big difference between us and them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 01:00 PM
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Do you have a better alternative?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:43 AM
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Do you have a better alternative?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:42 AM
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If they could be found all over the place men why would men be going to TRP? Why is it not something that myself or multiple others like me ever found anywhere else?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:42 AM
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There is no miracle cure. It's going to take a lot of cultural reform that isn't possible right now with the way men's issues are seen. But what can be done in the meantime is give men non toxic advice on how to improve their odds at finding a partner and teaching them appropriate ways to express interest. Since most of the current education on the topic is just long lists preaching to men about what they shouldn't do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:41 AM
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but I'm stumped on how to make that really happen. There's already information out there that helps immensely. But it's like apples growing in a thick thorny briar. There's a lot of hate built up from years of frustration and anger that's for the most part gone unaddressed. PUA exists because men made a "sport" out of having as many sexual encounters as possible. They tried new things and recorded what they did and the results. And when something worked better than other things they made a note …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:32 AM
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pro-women is better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:20 AM
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Yes. If you look up blocks of the text on google it'll bring you to an askfeminists post asking about it. But for the most part the responses are -The Op is a pathological liar so none of it is true. (though some of it is hard to cite a source for which is why I use a more condensed version) -It's gish gallop. -They're all taken out of context. (even though context was given and they just stopped responding.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:20 AM
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Because the pendulum has been pushed too far one way. Feminist BS has entire institutions of bitter misandrists fudging stats to confirm their ideologically fueled beliefs about men being rapists and abusers inherently due to "patriarchal entitlement" among other crap. This has spread the notions that women are in constant danger of men and that men need to be "fixed" And this is done in many ways but it's even in universities and sex ed through "consent" education. My experience with that conse…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 07:06 AM
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The point is that there needs to be a better conversation about dating. The rest is irrelevant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 05:51 AM
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There's more than that. Things like techniques to improve your body language and confidence. What body language to look for. Etc. This may seem obvious but remember, there's guys that need to be told not to rip ass on a first date. But I can completely understand your concerns. It can be easy for vulnerable men to fall into that mindset and there's a general acceptance that people will go through an "anger phase" This is why I think a better system is needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 02:52 AM
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system deliberately aims to create weak, frustrated men who will be worker ants - men who will study, get a good job, but won't fulfill their sexual / persona needs. I don't particularly think this is true. And I can see why they'd get upset. But I'm always skeptical of arguments for "weak men" being the issue. or for any system that is supposedly trying to "make them" Sure the education system fails men in a number of ways. but most of that is due to the fear mongering feminist BS about men bei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 01:05 AM
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just to preface. I know we're not related. But an archival is an archival. and we can refer to it regardless. But I do think that there is some very decent advice in TRP spaces. I don't agree with a lot of it. But it fulfills a need for dating advice that isn't just "be nice to women and praise them"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 12:56 AM
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I know we're not related. But an archival is an archival. and we can refer to it regardless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 12:55 AM
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I wouldn't define the above or any of the other egregious censorship they push to uphold feminist ideology as "thoughtful"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 12:52 AM
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Yet it was still welcomed by the mod team there. like /u/Deadlocked02 stated Do you really believe the mods who arranged for the AMA weren’t aware of his line of work? Do you really think that they had zero inclination as to his beliefs? Like I'll agree that it's better to allow people to talk and argue their position. Absolutely so. But any one of us here could have told you just by a quick google search that the dude clearly holds the belief that domestic violence is something men do to women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 05:58 PM
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Just a few days ago menslib hosted an AMA from a guy who outright denied that men could be victims of domestic abuse and was trying to push the notion that men are inherently abusers who need to be reformed. And that's just the most recent in a very long list of similar occurrences. Is that really the type of conversation you want?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 05:12 PM
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Probably the limitations on resources and work. It takes a LOT of work to prep the amount of food they make.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/21 03:18 AM
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We have both. Some subs are in the works to be used as other things so we're not advertising them currently We also have a few things like unofficial discord channels. But the mod team has a password so we can communicate off Reddit if needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 08:54 PM
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Yeah. You can look up my name on their ban list. Two actual generalizations I'll admit. But the rest is just saying shit feminists didn't like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 02:16 AM
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Funny you mention FeMRAdebates. I'm banned due to their mods personal bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 07:24 PM
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Feminism does not equal women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 06:45 PM
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Nobody is blaming women. Your bias is apparent. You should take some time to read and reconsider your stances.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 06:28 PM
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I've considered your statements. I know them to be untrue. And I've given you sources to consider yourself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 06:14 PM
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"men" aren't a monolith. "men" are not in power. Quit relying on an apex fallacy to justify your bigotry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 06:14 PM
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Show me a time in American history when men were not the sole dominating authority. Literally any time. And the fact that you look at america only is part of your own bias. men in power are not like normal everyday men, so there is no reason to assume their decision will benefit men in general Also, Science: Men lack an in-group bias based on gender Men are more willing to sacrifice men than women Men and women have a negative reaction to studies that show sex differences favouring men. But posi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 05:32 PM
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Men's issues have not been the center of society for "most of eternity" A cursory glance at a history book would tell you this. And anti feminism is necessary for men's advocacy when feminism is demonstrably anti men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 05:24 PM
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There's still benefits. Even in just in social situations. Like I still remember seven years ago I got complimented my eye color by a stranger. I have My girlfriend can remember several similar occurences over the last few months. I imagine sometimes just being noticed is enough for people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 08:37 AM
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But is this thing used officially in training police? as of 2006 it's the most commonly used batterer intervention program in the U.S
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/21 05:25 PM
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But if they're passing then they get said benefits. And I assume the majority of trans women aren't lesbians.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/21 07:19 AM
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How so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 10:06 PM
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It's almost as if the people who fear monger about incels don't actually take the time to understand how and why they come to their POV.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 09:54 PM
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Because the dudes who actually care about women have heard the complaints women have about men being too aggressive in approaching women and avoid being assertive in their own desires. This is one of the foundational principals behind TRP. Women want masculine "alpha" men. But society teaches men to be "beta/bluepill"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 09:53 PM
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1% of the subscriber count - and I suspect a lot of the transmaxx subscribers are not transmaxxing. 1% is pretty big when you consider that there's a lot of people who don't know the phenomenon by that name. Did they benefit because women have it easier, or because their dysphoria was resolved? If they were not trans, would they still have been happy with their transitioning? People who transition, who aren't trans, usually end up deeply unhappy. You'd have to ask them But there's several more c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 09:48 PM

These men in power are not like normal everyday men, so there is no reason to assume their decision will benefit men in general Also, Science: Men lack an in-group bias based on gender Men are more willing to sacrifice men than women Men and women have a negative reaction to studies that show sex differences favouring men. But positive reaction for the opposite. Stereotypes have changed over time and now more people think women are superior to men than the other way around. Men are more likely t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 09:03 PM
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This was reported as "delegitimizing trans women by reducing them to upset men" I don't see how it's doing that. They clearly state that it COULD be that SOME male the choice for those reasons. And as others in these comments have pointed out. It's not uncommon. So I'm approving the comment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 08:44 PM
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Except the vast majority of rapists aren't men. We just don't include male victims in statistics. Which skews the statistics. Most people talking about sexual violence refer to the "rape" (penetrated) numbers as influenced by Mary Koss's methodologies, but in the US the CDC also gathered the data for "made to penetrate" (enveloped) in the 2010, 2011, and 2015 NISVS studies. As an example lets look at the 2011 survey numbers: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm an estimated 1.6…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 07:31 AM
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The fact that those subs are so close in size to the transmaxxing sub doesn't really help the case. And even right now there's a couple people in the comments who are saying that they benefitted from transitioning in the exact ways I described. And honestly? I don't think it's likely harder if you're passing. And I don't see what you mean by "wildly gesticulating" The overarching idea is that transitioning is sometimes used as a means to achieve sexual success. And when that's easier for even a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 07:29 AM
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I don't agree with doing so. But that is basically the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 07:21 AM
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The possibility of being a sexual threat is eliminated. That shouldn't be an issue with people in the first place IMHO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 07:04 AM
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As was said above. There's a community specifically for it on reddit alone with ~2000 people. and that's just who's on reddit. It's a small phenomenon yes. But it's definitely being noticed. the whole Chris-chan controversy just poured fuel on the fire. And personally. I think it's been demonstrated in a fairly strong way that this has to do with sex and relationships since "transmaxxing" is relatively unknown outside of incel communities. And I included AGP as a means to reinforce the notion th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 06:55 AM
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I linked to a post here where /u/Oncefa2 appears to have added further studies in the comments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 06:42 AM
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Well. I wasn't aware of that. Everything that I've read on the term indicated that it was simply one of the reasons that some trans women decided to transition. I suppose I should make an edit to my post acknowledging this. What do you suggest it say?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 06:41 AM
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And like many have pointed out. It is a thing. I can understand that some may not like it because of the way it's used. Much like we don't generally like people using the term "toxic masculinity" But theres several key differences between the two. The main one that comes to mind is that AGP isn't an example of negative labelling. And it isn't (as I've seen it) used in the same harmful way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 06:25 AM
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I think they do make a valid point imho. Like it is a thing that happens. And unlike toxic masculinity it's not an example of negative labelling nor is it inherently used as an insult from what I've seen. Don't get me wrong. I understand fully how the concept is used to delegitimize trans people. But that's all the more reason imho to figure out the why and then make distinctions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 06:16 AM
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It has been pointed out that there are entire communities revolving around this. I'm not saying it's a massive phenomenon. Or that it's the primary or even one of the main reasons people transition. But it is happening. And it's causing problems for actual transgender people because legitimate transphobes can point and say "look! It's just like we said!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 05:38 AM
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"trans women are just perverted men trying to invade women's spaces" That's not the message I'm trying to get across. The point is that some people ARE in fact doing this because of the toxicity of the male gender roles. And we have clear cut evidence of this. and that this is damaging in all the ways you've highlighted. it's IMHO better for trans people and communities if this wasn't happening. but that means we need to address how we treat men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 02:36 AM
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Shit. I must have forgot to hit save. edited for real this time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 01:22 AM
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I don't really think there's a link either. But I do think that to some extent autogynephilia is part of why more and more men who don't feel sexually valued(Or like you said, Unease at the thought of being a man) may be choosing to present as female or at least more feminine. if you don't feel sexually valued as a man. and any attention you do get isn't to you as a person but towards what you can provide. And you see that you can be cute and desired if you present as feminine. That would be som…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 12:44 AM
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This has been reported as misinformation. If anybody else on the mod team sees anything I've missed as misinformation feel free to take action. or if whoever reported it wants to point out said misinformation. Feel free. Until then it's staying up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 12:10 AM
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Putting that second sentence right after the first makes it sound like you're saying femboys and traps are trans, which isn't accurate. They're cis. They just express that in a different way. Ahh, Fair enough. I didn't notice that after I shifted some things around. Edited. Its an important distinction, because not claiming to be a woman invalidates any advantage you might get by crossdressing or presenting as feminine. Actually it puts you in a worse position because if you're doing those thing…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 12:09 AM
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If anybody wants to start compiling some and making sure they're legitimate I'd be happy to add it to the sidebar
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/21 11:44 PM
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Yeah, here it's semi paid for but when I've tried it was basically "wait three months for a half hour appointment" free
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 09:57 PM
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The issue I can see with that is that therapy is expensive and that what I think a lot of them need is good advice to attract a partner.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 01:08 PM
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The negative effects of the "privileged oppressor" narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 08:01 AM
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Lmao the system works
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 04:47 AM
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Yup. Or they'll link you to some opinion article on how men's advocacy is so so very evil because men are privileged monsters and how could we?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/21 12:36 AM
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I have a few comments of this nature saved. Here's them. Feminists stopping male victims of female rapists from being recognized in India, Israel, Nepaland USA. Feminism protecting female pedophiles by going against gender neutral child rape laws in India. Feminists try their best in academia to deny gender symmetry in partner violence by forcing their antiscience theories Feminists are more likely to sacrifice men and show more implicit in-group bias (more likely to always side with women and a…
/r/MensRights18/08/21 07:50 PM
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No.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/21 03:41 AM

I just wanted to make this comment because this is a thin line to walk. This is not a MGTOW refuge community. It has never been and never will be. We've already had a sub banned because it was falsely assumed to be one. We don't want it to happen again. So forgive us for erring on the side of trimming the comments/posts a bit. That being said. There is legitimate points to be made in saying that there's problems and discrimination men uniquely face in areas like marriage, divorce and relationshi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 09:12 PM
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No lol that's my exchange.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 07:26 AM
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Oh I'm sure more than a few people here have seen my views on that sub when I called it out to the admins and they admitted bullying men is fine on Reddit. It's honestly disgusting. And the people who so zealously participate are too stupid to understand that the messages they're broadcasting are Hitting EVERYBODY. And not just the hand full of men that they don't like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 05:26 AM
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That entire sub is honestly disgusting. They're so consumed by self righteousness that they think bullying people is justified.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 04:44 AM
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Looks like somebody didn't watch the video
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 01:19 AM
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With current conversations coming back to this topic I thought I'd share this video here. It's an excellent delve into the mindset and process of radicalization many men who struggle with dating and romance face. And I hope we can take this information and use it to better the conversations that are had about this issue that are often bereft of empathy or understanding.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/21 10:43 PM
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I mean yeah, I can see that. But you don't really establish any connection with that point in the post. if you do I'd be more than happy to re-approve it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/21 10:18 PM

This is nice. But I'm not sure how it's related to men's issues. So sorry, I'm going to have to remove it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/21 09:03 PM
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We record everything. We have several unofficial backup servers. And the mod team knows how to get into contact with one another via alt or other means. in case of that happening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/21 07:24 PM
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I think it's a bit of both. Men are less and less likely to get an education and are actively discriminated against in early education which lowers the rates of men going into teaching. (plus. Why would you want to be somewhere where you're actively discriminated against) And when they get there. there's a LOT of stigma against men working around children or even people that are younger than them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/21 12:27 PM
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Another excellent post by /u/thetinmenblog that deserves to be shared here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 07:57 PM
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It's the longing not to be your agab due to self loathing and internalized guilt/shame.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/21 07:25 AM
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The screenshot was taken after the amended those rules.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 07:31 PM
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I'm the one who originally took that screenshot.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 06:02 PM
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Is there a report line we should use?
/r/MensRights07/08/21 04:00 PM
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Bruh I'm not who you think I am lmao
/r/MensRights07/08/21 03:16 PM
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How am I connected to that community? Like the only association is being a mod. But it's of different groups.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 03:01 AM
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my dude. How am I in any way associated with that?
/r/MensRights07/08/21 02:51 AM
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Where?
/r/MensRights07/08/21 02:33 AM
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Literally didn't but aight
/r/MensRights06/08/21 06:23 PM
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Yes. When you count men being raped by women it gets to around 50/50
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:30 PM
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It's sad in a way. There's so many hurting people out there from all walks of life who have suffered in myriad different ways. But they're afraid to speak up about it because they'll be ignored at best and maligned as a woman hater at worst.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 12:07 PM
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The sub was literally about that my dude.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 11:51 AM
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It wasn't just one question. it was them prodding for loopholes to make shitty generalizations about groups of people
/r/MensRights06/08/21 11:49 AM
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Oh yeah, I'm such a douche for not letting people be unnecessarily shitty to women.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 11:48 AM
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No. Because the more extreme branches of feminism tend to operate in similar ways to a cult. A leader that can't be questioned. Absolute adherance to the group is required. There's a constant external threat that being in the group protects you from. people that don't are ostracized nobody that leaves is a good person. Etc etc.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 09:26 AM
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Held by people who are indoctrinated by an ideology
/r/MensRights06/08/21 08:55 AM
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Yes. That's why I've spent the last several years advocating for men and pushing back against feminist ideas of men being a monolithic oppressor class.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 08:41 AM
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Yes. Absolutely. Because I study history and know this isn't true.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 08:37 AM

This
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 08:14 AM
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I wish there was the option to sticky other peoples comments. Instead I'm going to just sticky my own comment with a link to this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 08:14 AM
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it pretty much isn't rape regardless. For statistical reporting, rape has been carefully defined as forced penetration of the victim in most of the world. You should listen to this feminist professor Mary P Koss explain that a woman raping a man isn't rape. Hear her explain in her own voice just a few years ago - https://clyp.it/uckbtczn. I encourage you to listen to what she is saying. (Really. Listen to it! Think about it from a man's perspective.) She is considered the foremost expert on sexu…
/r/MensRights06/08/21 07:34 AM
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When I asked permission to post this. The user in question responded with some more things they thought I should add. I have their name censored because there's some things I think they'd prefer to keep silent. but you know who you are if you want to reveal yourself and add that extra bit. If you want to mention my story, which I didn't tell much of, there are several reasons that I care about issues that affect men. I often present myself as a trans woman, but I think of myself as non-binary. H…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 06:52 AM
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it should be noted that the sub was started four days ago. Two days ago was when things really picked up. and the MGTOW sub was banned it may look suspicious but even a cursory glance at the age of the subs age would make it hard to see as a copycat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 06:41 AM
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One would hope. But I'm not holding my breath in the meantime.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 06:06 AM
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Except it's not true.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 05:52 AM
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They never said "many" they said "women are immature"
/r/MensRights06/08/21 05:27 AM
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"Women are immature" isn't logic. it's the opposite. Blatantly wrong, and a shitty generalization.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 05:19 AM
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How is that even an accusation? They weren't banned for "facts and logic" they were banned for repeatedly trying to justify misogyny and find loopholes around making negative generalizations about women because we had a rule against it.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 05:09 AM
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he was. I was there.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 05:06 AM
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We did. And they kept trying to justify it and find loopholes.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 04:15 AM
1

And yet they were consistently making them and trying to justify them.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 04:03 AM
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Yes. Negative generalizations about women are counted as misogyny. I'm sorry you don't like this. but that doesn't justify it.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 03:54 AM
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Consistently trying to justify misogynistic comments. insulting anybody that disagreed. I'd give you evidence of this but alas.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 03:46 AM
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That wasn't the only thing they were banned for. I was the one that did it.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 03:37 AM
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Fair enough. I'll allow them to Basque in their ignorance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 02:57 AM
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Don't be a fuckwit. Women weren't behind this.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:35 AM
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I did make some posts. they haven't responded to DM's and temp banned me from one of the subs people use to get in contact with them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 12:58 AM
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There's places where you can post to ask them. But I don't want to get in trouble for inciting "brigading" or anything like that. since I've already just been temp banned from one of them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 12:58 AM
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Go to archive.is or another archiving site and enter the URL. screenshots also work. And please do leave a comment with what you have archived.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 12:42 AM
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The best thing to do IMHO is to document it and make people aware of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/21 12:05 AM
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ruqqus has been the go to. but I'm wary on advertising it just yet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 11:49 PM
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It couldn't
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 11:35 PM
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Neither did /r/misandry. But Reddit is fine with discrimination if it's towards the right targets.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 11:03 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/pRpSAYc Oh they've been there for some time
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 10:39 PM
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Yup. Complete and utter lies
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 09:56 PM
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Please do. I'd like as much evidence as possible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 09:55 PM
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It was initially. About four days ago a user found that it had been cleared. So they claimed it and came to us. We were in the midst of setting it up as a sub to discuss and document instances of misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 09:54 PM
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Banned on false pretenses
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:24 PM
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Yyup sad how misandric reddit administration is
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:07 PM
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Apparently.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 08:35 PM
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That's a very good question.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 08:31 PM
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And that's why we make a backup plan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 03:56 AM
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I would agree. But since we've already had several posts about it I wanted to make this one to clarify our stance and contain the conversation. if by chance we do get "overwhelmed" we can quickly bring on more mods to help
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 01:40 AM
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I'm not the one that needs convincing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/21 09:28 AM
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Then they'll care about how it hurts the young men being radicalized. They'll care about the women who will encounter these radicalized young men. Empathy has many avenues. Thats why we have a list of problems and not just the message of "men are upset"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 10:16 AM
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No. The one im thinking of also mods subs like SRD OneY and such.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 09:43 AM
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Send a message to modmail.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 09:21 AM
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With a LOT of semi-organized protesting. if a news outlet or youtuber gets a few hundred emails or even comments about a topic at least a few are bound to respond. Enough eyes on reddit will come down onto the admins eventually. And there's a LOT of ways we could spin the message. It's misandrist This kind of double standard is incredibly divisive (on the racial level as well) It makes feminism look bad it's not equality by any definition. it's "woke" bullshit. it pushes people to radicalization…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 09:06 AM
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We're still setting it up and fine tuning it. so the answer is a vague "yeah, kinda both?" The first step is to get a bit of a userbase. From there we'll decide with feedback of that userbase how best to utilize it.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 07:53 AM
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The sub was once "squatted on" by a number of outright man haters and one well known powermod of the circlejerk variety. They closed the sub to new posts or comments but still kept it open to view. The "old version" of the sub still exists here so you can see for yourself what it's like. https://www.reddit.com/r/a:t5_2qvq8/ But the reddit admins have been freeing up dead old subs for people to claim. since /r/misandry wasn't being used. it got snatched up by a watchful user and I was immediately…
/r/MensRights02/08/21 07:45 AM
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Good news I'd say. as now the sub is open and can actually be used we're still setting it up. But we're hoping to use it as a space to document cases of misandry and discuss it and etc.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 07:36 AM
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I forgot to add a comment to abide by the low effort rule. But I think this is self explanatory. This can't change unless people are willing to try and change it. But that's not going to happen if every effort is sabotaged before it can get off the ground by defeatist skepticism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 07:17 AM
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Reddit admins are apparently freeing up stagnant subs. This one was included since it was locked up and not in use. EDIT: I should add that /u/hostergaard is the user that noticed this and scooped it up. and then they immediately messaged me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 06:30 AM
6

I suppose so huh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 01:29 AM
1

Fair enough. Though i think this mod and their actions deserve to be mentioned.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 01:13 AM
1

What should be done now is to message the mod teams of other subs they mod and warn them that this could happen to them too.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 12:42 AM
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Sure!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 10:20 AM
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I'm just repeating what you're saying. it's useless so let's just never try to change anything. we'll just stick to our little online forums and complain
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 09:24 AM
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Your fundamental principle of "spreading awareness to help little by little" is correct. It just wont help enough to get the admins to change. They've changed before due to public outcry. But I guess since it's men we're talking about it's hopeless. And not everything needs to be explicit activism. Some people just want to read/discuss things on forums, without any plans for changing the world. so again. our feminist critics are correct. People just want to complain and not actually do anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 09:16 AM
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and what's that going to accomplish? Nothing. And what's the point in fighting in other ways? Can you give a good strategy for making concrete changes elsewhere?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 09:11 AM
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Yup so we're just not going to do anything. Its all hopeless
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 09:03 AM
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I'm done. i've tried to promote email campaigns only to be met with the same "oh I don't want to email right wing people" or "it'll never work" The top all time post on this sub is promoting a hashtag for men to use to talk about how misandry has hurt them. Yet when you look on social media. Nothing. Maybe one or two posts at most. But if even ten or twenty people started talking about these things and letting others know it could spark a conversation. But no. Everybody is just too convinced tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 08:54 AM
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Jesus h fuck aight. We'll just never do anything cause its all useless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 08:28 AM
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Because if enough people speak out and make it a media fiasco. We can influence their advertisers and lose them money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 08:16 AM
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that wasn't the only comment there initially. And there were several other places I posted. And how? anybody who isn't a woke bigot can see that they're being shitty. they may be in their ivory towers. But there's a LOT of people outside of those towers that are tired of this kind of shit. Exposing their bigotry works bit by bit. A death of a million cuts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 08:03 AM
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And by making a stink about this word gets around both about our sub and about the problem. like said it's a win win.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 07:36 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/mlb402/the_email_campaign_lets_do_something_by_bringing/ Here's a post where I tried that initially when the admins initially stated that misandry is allowed. Note that several of the top comments expressed similar sentiments of "I don't want to do this/this won't work" And that wasn't the only place where I made posts on the topic. I actually ended up taking a several month break just due to burning several days trying to coordinate stuff …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 07:34 AM
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I don't think it's "near impossible" to spread the word around. Just talking about it helps. Just linking people to the petition helps. Sharing screenshots helps. Doing nothing gets us nothing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 07:17 AM
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It's always upsetting that such defeatist attitudes inevitably come up whenever there's an attempt to actually do anything. Makes me feel like feminists are right. All some people wanna do is whine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 06:49 AM
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EDIT: I have seen the light. you are correct. It won't do anything and people just want to complain.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 06:31 AM
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I'm aware of this. I'm the one that took this screenshot that was spread around reddit a few months ago. https://imgur.com/a/pRpSAYc Point is if this creates a big enough splash the admins will either be forced to do something or people will be made more aware of their bigotry. it's a win win.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 06:30 AM
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You tagged the wrong dude.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 05:57 AM
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We linked to the same petition but your URL is shorter so I'm stealing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 05:08 AM
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Could be both. I'm not going to blame people for resonating with issues they recognize. And since this sub welcomes everybody who wants to talk about men's issues you'll generally find that most people recognize issues similar to the above. And part of the reason you'll often see people talking about just how bad these issues are is generally because men's issues are often dismissed as "the plight of the privileged" A lot of people see men's issues and the people that advocate for men as the equ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 06:09 PM
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I assume they're on mobile? I forget that it sucks for some people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/21 12:52 AM
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I assume they're on mobile? I forget that it sucks for some people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/21 12:51 AM
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I know we generally try to avoid crossposts and images in a lot of ways. But I do think that long form images of text aren't that bad. And this one does a good job of examining a trans persons perspective in regards to mens issues. And I'd absolutely love to hear the perspectives of other trans people in this regard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/21 09:13 AM
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Oh. And here's a list of quotes from prominent feminist figures. I have a lot of stuff like this saved. Stuff like sources on toxic masculinity being problematic. men not having a positive in group bias. Etc. Basically it gets annoying to have to reiterate the same arguments ad nauseum to people who have only existed in echo chambers. So I save the good ones and rehash them for use wherever it's needed. Criticising feminist leaders and founders like these? I await with anticip....ation for your …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 08:21 AM
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You may note that some of these things are difficult to find sources for. Here's a similar comment that I've started using instead. originally penned by /u/askingtofeminists figureheads are what matters, not the random activist nobody knows. So, you wouldn't object if we considered the words and action of the feminist scholar who defined how rape was to be studied by the CDC and more generally the US government? Her name is Mary Koss, and she has stated explicitly that female on male forced sexu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 08:14 AM
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Yes. That's what happens when you have boys being raised with feminist ideals that tell them that men are inherently dangerous to women and women need to be defended and put on pedestals
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 07:21 PM
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And to add my own thoughts. Using reddit as an example. Are you really trying to say that there isn't a single "real" feminist sub or community on this site? Because nearly every one of them that I have seen. (And I have seen most) is outright and plainly misandric. So if you don't want people to associate feminism with misandry. You should start your own community and call out every other one on this platform. and watch how quickly it implodes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 07:17 PM
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I'm going to copy this because it's relevant here. This was originally written by karen straughan. AKA /u/girlwriteswhat So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of whom call themselves femin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 07:13 PM
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Feminism has a lot to do with misandry. Just go see what happens when you go into feminist spaces and call it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 06:15 PM
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Cherry pick some bad stats on things women do. Then once they point out that you're misrepresenting data to slander women remind them they're doing the exact same thing to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 06:20 AM
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Excellent work like always!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 01:32 AM
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Because they're a heavily moderated echo chamber who's priorities are feminism first. Men maybe. We on the other hand criticize feminism and don't shut down people of other political affiliations as long as they follow our rules. That can be pretty shocking to people who take feminism as dogma and have never had to converse with people outside of their own ideological spheres.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 12:24 AM
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Oh same. I've written at length about how feminist shaming affected my own life due to internalized shame about my sexuality. And how I think a consistent pattern of this in the dating sphere is fueling the nice guy/incel phenomenon. When you teach guys that their interest in women is predatory. The guys that actually care about women and don't want to be seen as bad people will avoid expressing interest and be overly nervous and cautious about women. So they end up self sabotaging while watchin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 10:39 PM

I know this is a menslib post. But I do think it makes for relevant discussion here. And for when they start urging too close to realizing something potentially negative about feminism and the post gets nuked. here's an archived version. https://archive.is/xCAtJ
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 07:13 PM

I'm going to remove this because we already have a post about a discord on the front page. This just ain't good timing and I don't want the sub to be inundated with new servers and similar posts. Sorry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 05:39 AM

Just a note. LWMA does not have an official Discord server, and does not intend to start one. But we are fine with people doing their own thing, as long as they do not try to misrepresent us. Simply put the majority of the current mods, myself included just don't have the time or energy to put into a live discord server So be aware that while one or two of our mod team may visit or utilize this discord. We can't be held accountable for what goes on there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/21 02:15 AM
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Oh. That's a separate conversation that's on the same topic. The actual mod defending banning a male rape victim as an isolated incident is just below the comment that link is in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 11:27 PM
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Thank you! I'll run that page through some of the other reddit archive sites to see what else can be found and then add it to our mission statement section on the topic. EDIT: Luckily somebody archived it. https://archive.is/c6AVW
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 10:57 PM
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It's more than just tribalism and black and white thinking. I'll illustrate a couple more issues taken directly from a list of red flags to look out for in cults. https://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 07:40 PM
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You know. I've seen that Indian men controversy come up several times now in these comments. But I can't actually remember when it happened. Could you possibly provide a link or two. I'd love to add it to our section on menslib in our mission statement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 04:21 PM
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The thing is we can see similar gender roles play out in the animal kingdom. Males are bigger and stronger and defend the females. And this is particularly pronounced by reproduction. You lose a bunch of women. The tribe is going to struggle. The few remaining can only give birth so often. You lose a bunch of men. It's no big deal. One dude can still impregnate as many women as he wants at any time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 04:19 PM
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Thank you for this. I'm always willing to add to our section on them in the mission statement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 02:47 PM
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We care, but we're met with hostility and suspicion. We are made to feel dirty, evil, and unwelcome in those spaces Oh I just embrace that I'm a villain to them. Sure it's bothersome to put on the top hat, suit and fake mustache just right so I can twirl it while cackling as i tell people they're wrong on the internet as orchestral organ music is blasting in the background. But their misery at my existence makes my glass of wine taste ever so delightful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 09:47 AM
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I'm too tired to try and understand how they rank them. But scrolling down to the bottom I find it funny that there's any kind of overlap between subs for things like mount and blade (a somewhat obscure pc game), doki doki literature club, "anime tiddies" and two specific Canadian cities. (Every other location based sub was for a country)l
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 09:32 AM
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I've got no clue on how to work on that so Imma leave it up to you. If you need volunteers and I need to add them as mods with the ability to edit it just make it apparent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 09:20 AM
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So then why do they lash out whenever they "get out of their bubble" and don't want to learn a new perspective? If they have so much confidence in their worldview, then anger and fear wouldn't even cross their minds. I get that you're trying to be fair to feminists here, I'm not. But have you ever look at how a cult functions? or the red flags for a cult? You should read up on it and keep feminism in mind. You'd be surprised how much overlap there is. Here's a good article to start. https://www.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 08:57 AM
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Also I think you are missing something. Because I don't see anywhere Dewey darl is mentioned in that link.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 08:21 AM
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https://archive.is/p26gm If you look through the archive. Which is a snapshot of the webpage itself used to work around comments being deleted and effectively hidden. you can see on the bottom right above the mod list. Jozarin is credited as the founder. You'll also see a little A by their name. Which seems to be why there's little evidence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/21 08:03 AM
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It's pretty apparent that this isn't what's being discussed. but I'm glad you've made it obvious that you're only here in bad faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 11:06 PM
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Do you have proof of this? I just looked through our modmail and your name pops up once where a comment was removed as a personal attack and you tried to spin it as "tough love"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 10:59 PM
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So in other words, they're aware, at least on a subconscious level, that the ideology they're pushing is toxic and that they only reason they do it is because they don't want to lose friends they so hold dear? I don't think so. I think that they believe they're right because that's how the world has been presented to them in their little bubbles. And a good amount are just misandristic. Sometimes there's no complexity, some of them just really hate men and feel that using the Feminist platform i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 10:45 PM
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Yeah. If you look at our mission statement you'll find that this problem is one of the major reasons this sub was founded.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 10:39 PM
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Honestly? I genuinely don't think they do. I've seen/heard several members of their moderation from stuff like youtube interviews or their fumbled attempts at making a podcast. And for the most part of what I've seen they're well off white dudes. they're so drunk on performatively virtue signaling by being the "mostest progessivest" that I don't think they've never genuinely sat down to think about how others may have different experiences in life to their own. So they've adopted this dogma that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 09:54 PM
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The problem is that warren Farrell was basically excommunicated from his feminist roots and is routinely slandered by them currently just for making those claims about men. Feminism may have been good for women's rights. But you can support women's rights without being a feminist. and since feminism is so frequently anti male. men's advocacy must at some level be anti-feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 08:41 PM
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the one that said (roughly) because women in India have a hard time, men of Indian backgrounds should expect prejudice and should accept it quietly, not too surprising honestly. This is pretty much their overarching view on men in general. They just made the mistake of pointing this towards a specific demographic of men And their ideology goggles blinded them to just how bigoted that kind of rhetoric is in general. And I doubt they would have done anything if they weren't called out elsewhere. B…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 08:33 PM

Just using mod powers to hijack the top comment spot so I can include this tidbit from our Mission Statement How do we differ from feminist Men’s Lib? The last few years have seen an increase in feminists and pro-feminists advocating for some male issues. This includes the reemergence of a movement called Men's Lib, who believe they can help men without blaming feminism. There are positives and negatives to this trend. On one hand, pro-feminist voices have helped raise awareness among a wider au…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 08:12 PM
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I think this comment really does a decent job at explaining why it is we get accused of "not being left wing enough" so frequently. We're committed to egalitarian and liberal principles. But we're also openly critical of the flaws we see in other prominent "left wing" ideas. And I'll say what I've said from the beginning. Pleas for ideological purity are stupid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 07:07 PM
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Lmao. How unsurprising that the most common overlaps are subs where women complain about men. Makes me wonder just how many men are actually on menslib and how many are just women pretending to be men to tell other men how terrible they are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 06:22 PM
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No. That person isn't actually a mod there. Just a prominent user. They are a mod of several other men's subs. And /r/misandry. A sub they squat on and use to say that misandry doesn't exist. Which is a sentiment shared by the menslib founder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 06:17 PM
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You're attacking a strawman. I'm not saying that wanting human freedoms or agency is misandry. I'm saying that the feminist movement that blames and demonizes men while committing outright misandrist acts is misandrist we can look at the NOW's history of systematically opposing and lobbying to get vetoed bills of repudiable presumption of shared custody that even had overwhelming public and political support. How is this "just wanting agency and freedoms"? We can talk of the official feminist mo…
/r/MensRights19/07/21 04:34 AM
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What rights? Voting? most men didn't. and in places like the UK all men got the right to vote only ten years before all women. And that's mainly because there was concern over how many men were dying in world war 1 without that right. Men had freedoms. yes. But those freedoms came with responsibilities. to steal an argument from /u/askingtofeminists Generally, societies can only function with some form of balance. The balance is usually as follow : women accept to exchange restrictions to gain p…
/r/MensRights19/07/21 03:26 AM
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It doesn't just hurt reputations. It presumes all men are violent sociopaths just for being men. Feminist ideas hold the following premises as self-evident: • Society is Male Dominated • Male dominance privileges men over women • While some men can sometimes be harmed by this system, the system itself is set up to privilege men and subjugate women for mens express benefit. • Men are in power and the system operates to benefit and serve mens' needs, drives, and interests at the expense of womens'…
/r/MensRights19/07/21 01:08 AM
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Their Declaration of Sentiments at the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848 states: "The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her." This is clear misandrist historical revisionism. There never was a conspiracy of men as a collective to establish absolute tyranny over women. The Declaration then explains this with a list of statements that are way too absolute and hist…
/r/MensRights18/07/21 11:27 PM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/21 04:40 AM

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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/21 04:39 AM
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Yet there's misandry rife within their movement. Down to its cornerstone ideas. Do they call out patriarchy theory? Do they call out misandrist language like "toxic masculinity" or "mansplaining" Are they out protesting things like the Duluth model? Or Mary koss' work? I find it hard to believe that they'd still call themselves feminists if they were actually calling out misandry.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 05:05 AM
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So again. What are they doing to speak out?
/r/MensRights15/07/21 04:22 AM
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And how do you think that happened? From the blind support of followers coupled with a complete lack of anybody speaking out. Which means they are part of the problem.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 04:04 AM
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So then why are they supporting them? Why are they legitimizing their beliefs? Why aren't they speaking out?
/r/MensRights15/07/21 03:58 AM
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And by supporting feminism blindly they're supporting those misandrists in power.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 03:55 AM
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Because the MRM is focused on men.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 03:53 AM
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When people here claim feminism is heavily misandristic, they are not talking only of Twitter activists, you know. Mostly, they are pointing at all the various institutions and figureheads of feminist power who, time after time, do anti male things while nobody with any social prominence says anything or does anything about it. That's precisely one of the thing I have often argued : sure, maybe most feminists are not anti male. I am willing to grant that. But they are all Doris down the street. …
/r/MensRights15/07/21 01:45 AM
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A lot of people don't seem to get this distinction. Feminists choose to be feminists. They choose to back the misandrist shit their movement pushes. Men don't get to choose to not be men.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 01:37 AM
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It's not misandry. but the foundations of feminist beliefs are inherently misandric.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 01:32 AM
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That's essentially what I say. It's hard to have a long track record of accomplishments when there's a massive and well funded movement pushing to ensure that you can't accomplish anything outside of their framework
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 04:35 PM
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Yeah. I'll occasionally browse that sub just to let the trolls there know that they're trash if they're trying to push ideology on vulnerable men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 04:31 PM
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The idea IMHO is to bring awareness to this. Force them to show their hand.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 05:45 AM
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We've since banned this user for being a blatant ban evasion alt. On top of that they have some pretty shitty views on things like rape that they've expressed elsewhere in their comment history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 06:10 AM
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We've since banned this user for being an obvious ban evasion alt. And for generally being unhinged. you can see what I mean in their comment history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 04:37 AM
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"toxic masculinity" is internally consistent. Vast, vast, majority of MRAs will fail to refute this right off the bat. If you can't earnestly make the feminist argument you have no business refuting it. 90% of arguments I see MRAs making against toxic masculinity would not be convincing to a feminist. experts in men's psychology are decidedly against the concept of toxic masculinity (and the model of "masculinity as a deficit" in general). For one thing, the theory has never been supported by ex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 03:07 AM
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Cool. Glad you didn't read any of my prior comment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 02:52 AM
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There's a huge difference between debating as a left wing figure and debating as an MRA. There's a reason I included that bit about keeping myself anonymous. Men's advocates are commonly maligned and categorized with the worst groups of people. Publicly identifying as one comes with consequences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 02:44 AM
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I think they're more or less pointing out the similarities between the style of the debate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 12:17 AM
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That doesn't mean that they're good at it. I'm more than happy to be critical of people on our side in that respect. I think that 90% of "youtube MRA's" make incredibly low quality content. It's actually part of the reason I pushed for the addition of rule 11 in this sub. At the time we were being flooded with 40 minute powerpoint presentations overlaid with speak n spell audio. I'm actually familiar with this MRA. They used to be a mod here for a brief period. up until their account got deleted…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 12:16 AM
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I'm not a fan of the "allyship" thing that feminists do. if you advocate for men. You're a men's advocate. doesn't matter what you identify as or what's in your pants.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 12:06 AM
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Sounds like a pretty biased answer. Yes, Men are getting into education at the same rates women were when we brought in affirmative action. But that's not oppression, that's just equalityTM
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/21 10:36 AM
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So is what I said really a "negative generalization" when they are demonstrating beyond a reasonable doubt that this is EXACTLY what they believe? Still awaiting an answer /u/kor8der.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/21 09:32 AM
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They have. I'm not sure where it was written but I distinctly remember the reasoning being "MRA'S will just use it to bash feminism"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/21 06:09 AM
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Sure. Not impossible. But I'm not sure what people expect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/21 06:07 AM
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She has said so in an interview here. https://clyp.it/uckbtczn and in her own work here. Detecting the Scope of Rape : A Review of Prevalence Research Methods. Author: Mary P. Koss. Journal of Interpersonal Violence Volume: 8 Issue: 2 Dated: (June 1993) Page: 206 Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/21 03:25 AM
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We went from 5000 to 8000 in the last four or five months. depending on when you place the stakes. And I agree. In fact what you're talking about is one of the cornerstone ideas of the sub. I think with more publicity it could grow even faster.
/r/MensRights07/07/21 01:01 AM
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The sub is also just over a year old. And we're trying to cover ground that people assume menslib has covered (which is why many are dissuaded)
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:51 PM
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We literally have her own words. I don't know how much better of a source you can get.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/21 10:44 PM
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That's the thing though. when we do try to do things. It's shut down by feminists. It's easy to say that we should "Get out and advocate" But when there's a massive well funded organization pushing to demonize and misrepresent everything we do. It's difficult in practice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/21 10:30 PM
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We would have to get together a number of users who are fluent in the rules and nuance of editing wikipedia so that we could do so in a way that doesn't come across as "brigading" or whatever. Simultaneously this could ensure that biased treatment of articles is exposed as just that. If we could accomplish this I'd absolutely talk to the other mods about the sub backing that effort.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/21 08:44 PM
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I'm surprised it's not taken down yet. Can't give any indication that feminism may be flawed. That's the entirety of the reason they won't allow Mary Koss' views on male rape victims to be added to her page.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/21 07:44 PM
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He's amicable with Warren Farrell because at some level he respects what we're doing. He's just another one of the many who don't understand why antifeminism is a necessary part of our activism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/21 06:58 PM
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The thousands of others are irrelevant if not complacent when they sit silently and allow evil like this to prevail.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 08:55 PM

This was reported for gendered insults. I don't see any. So I'm leaving it up. But if I've missed them feel free to let me know.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/21 09:57 PM
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And that minority are in power. Writing laws and such.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/21 02:25 AM
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Thee * in a row. * **
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/21 09:20 PM
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I'm aware of what being on the spectrum is like. I went through special Ed based on a misdiagnosis of being on it myself. Most of my formative years were spent being near people who were. I also spent countless hours studying the autism spectrum in the fruitless hopes of freeing myself from that label Which is why I sincerely hope that this isn't the same "friend on the spectrum" you reference in your "MTP vs Rape" post. Because using autism as an excuse for heinous views like that is not someth…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/21 07:33 PM
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Would you mind asking her to come and actually converse here in good faith then? I'm trying to practice lenience and being the bigger person. but her and others doing stuff like this isn't helping.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/21 07:09 PM
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Sure! whatever works!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/21 08:33 PM
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however Paul Elam is too extreme, he encourages violence against women and plays it off as a joke, he says that female rape victims encourage it. I hear that a lot. And I don't disagree that his harshness is unhelpful. But have you read the recent addendums to the articles that people base these accusations on? I began to compile my list of "female privileges", and now I have over 80 and counting. Just tell me if you would like to see it, We'd be more than happy to have you post it here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/21 08:29 PM
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That's why I decided to put it up as an announcement. Excellent post /u/JackieNaper1907
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/21 08:20 PM
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Don't expect replies. I'm not wasting my time. If you're going to come here just to make bad faith arguments based on false information and then refuse to have any sort of discussion then you have no reason to be here. Bye.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/21 08:14 PM
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I wouldn't count Roosh as an MRA. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't count himself as one either. But I don't blame you for being led to believe that. It's a common practice to group MRA's with a bunch of other male oriented groups. Have you watched Cassie jaye's movie? Or how about Warren Farrell's books?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/21 08:12 PM
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Funny part is they got the exact same answers and haven't responded to any of them.
/r/MensRights29/06/21 06:29 PM
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You say I'm a detriment to conversation. But I'm not seeing any conversation in my absence. I'm seeing a handful of users trying to post biased and misleading articles with an agenda in mind only to have them be immediately be debunked and then go silent. like so But sure, I was there in "bad faith" And it's not that I think you're being tyrannical. I think you're just lacking the experience to tell you that this is what happens every. single. time. something like this is attempted. The only way…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/21 09:17 AM
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