#MenAreHuman. | LeftWingMaleAdvocates

Today is the day.

After several long days of discussion and posts. Several long days of men who are feeling hurting and dismayed at being treated like monsters for the crime of being a man.

Let's let out a simple. eloquent reminder. We too are human.

I urge all of our users. Make a simple post. And spread the word.

Use the #MenAreHuman hashtag to talk about your experiences. Your pain.

Or talk about the positive experiences with men in your life. A father figure. A therapist. Anybody.

/u/thetinmenblog has made posts here on reddit. And Here on instagram. Please support and follow them!

We can make this discussion trend. We can let our voices be heard. I know many people here are apathetic towards this. Or afraid that they'll be dogpiled.

And that's why I want more people to see this hashtag. I plead from you for a moment of your time to make the effort to speak out. Use an alt account if you must. Just speak out. Remind the world that we are human. That our feelings matter. That we aren't inherently bad.

You can even do so in the comments here. If you have something to say. If you have a resource that can help spread the word. If you have an argument against a mischaracterization you feel is inevitable. Leave it in the comments.

There are so many of you who found this community and felt otherwise lost and hurt. So many of you felt as though your words fell on deaf ears. We are listening. And our voices together will be like thunder.

#MenAreHuman

EDIT: I'm already seeing a few posts on twitter! Not many. but the message is clearly getting out! let's keep posting!

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I keep a list of statistics in my notes. Here you go.

At least 1 in 6 men have been sexually abused or assaulted
At least 70.7% of non-reciprocal domestic violence cases are perpetrated by women
Only 17.5% of men win full custody of their children, even though statistically, women are 4.5 times more likely to abuse their children
Men serve 63% longer sentences than women for the exact same crime
Women are twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted
93.3% of prison inmates are male
78.7% of homicide victims are male
Men make up 70% of all homeless
Men are required to register for the draft, women aren't
Men make up 95% of casualties in the military
Men make up 93% of casualties in the workplace
Men are 3.63 times more likely to kill themselves than women

I didn't write down the sources, but you can Google the statistics and it'll show up.

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You are welcome to come here and have a discussion. But there are several issues with what you are stating.

Men are oppressed. Men make up the vast majority of the homeless population, the vast majority of suicides among other things. Men also face systemic discrimination in a number of ways.

Downplaying it as the result of "patriarchy" is nothing short of victim blaming.

Men as a whole had no say in the gender roles pushed on them. We are not a monolith.

And the system is not as one sides as you've been led to believe.

men's issues are often symmetrical to women's. two sides of the same coin.

There is a widespread tendency within feminism to address men’s issues by framing them as really being about women (i.e., merely a side-effect of negative attitudes towards women, problems with how we see women, or disadvantages for women). This could be called the “trickle-down equality” approach to men’s issues, because it means that we can focus on women and their issues and equality will “trickle down” to men and their issues. This reluctance to acknowledge men’s issues as real issues in their own right is one of the clearest deal-breakers to feminism being the answer to men’s issues.

The problems with this practice might be more clear if we flip the genders and see what it looks like to make women’s issues really about men.

For example, slut-shaming:

Slut-shaming happens to women because men’s sexuality is seen as dirty and demeaning to them. Men’s rights activists are very much against that.

Child-care:

The reason we expect women to care for children is that we don’t trust men doing it. It’s really just misandry working against women.

The earnings gap:

Women make less money than men because we don’t see men as having worth outside of providing money to others, and so we encourage men to work longer hours, take longer commutes, set aside their passions, etc.

Objectification:

Women are only treated as sex objects because their sexuality is seen as so valuable and desirable. It’s an advantage for women (disadvantage for men) that sometimes backfires against them. It’s like a rockstar who’s so famous and loved for their music that they have a hard time getting people to pay attention to their other endeavours, like visual art.

Covering-up in very religious societies:

Women are expected to cover up in places of Saudi Arabia because of the idea that men don’t have any self-control. Fix the misandry and it’ll help women.

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In science, you establish cause effect by abiding with 3 principles of David hume. 1 correlation 2 temporal precedence 3 spuriousness . Patriarachy 'causing' any of this does not satisfy 2nd 3 principle. If matriarchy existed would there be violence? Yes. If equal powers between both genders existed would there be violence? Yes. Also men and women both enforce these societal rules. And you don't have to paint women as being victim(or conditioned) to be something in this situation. Both are functioning adults. Stop infantilizing women. If most violence is commited towards men then men are 'primary victims'. This is why feminism should not exist. Men have it worse than women even if it is done mostly by men. Plus you are generalizing again which is sexist. Plus the 'power' you speak of had many many dimensions. It's not restricted to govt authority

Also a lot of women are not as physically violent because they can't be. They are not as physically powerful as men. If we take conditions where women are more powerful than someone else then women are violent . Take the example of infant killing(killing babies). It's almost entirely done by women. Google it up.

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There’s no cause in surety in this statement and yet there is during in the statement that “violence would happen under the matriarchy”? This is essentially an extension of what you said above. Violence will happen because violence will happen. My point with this statement is not to justify it but to point out the fact that most child rearing is pushed onto women. 83 percent of single parents are mothers. In relationships where two parents are present, women are significantly more likely to be burdened with childcare. Of course babies are more likely to be killed by women because they are unlikely to be in the care of men.

I think we both know your argument about women not being violent because they aren’t as strong is incredibly weak. Knives, guns, poison, are all things that exist and take little strength to use. But men are the ones reaching them.

Finally, I never said anything about men infantilizing women. Pointing out a societal dynamic is not “infantilizing” or “victimizing” them. It’s incredibly hypocritical for you to take that jab at “you feminists” while you make the argument that the bigger, stronger perpetrator is the real victim here.

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Title	#MenAreHuman.
Author	Forgetaboutthelonely
Upvotes	225
Comments	24
Date	March 22, 2021 11:43 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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