Howdy everybody. I wanted to try making a post examining the worst parts of both Feminism and the MRM for the sake of comparison.

Now. To find some examples of this. I started with asking LWMA.

What we thought the worst parts of men's advocacy were.

Now. I specified that I wanted examples from groups and influential figures with demonstrable links to the movement Because both sides have their individual crazies and we'd be here for days if we went over that.

So to start let's go over the worst parts of the MRM.

Now. If you read through that post. You'll see that most of the criticism is directed towards the number of tradcon right wingers in the movement. and the lack of action due primarily to people wanting to avoid the social repercussions that come from advocating for men.

But aside from that. The only mention of any influential figures was that paul elam can be an asshole at times. Even though most of the worst examples people often cite are written in direct response to feminist articles. Like the following.

https://avoice formen.com/featured/october-is-the-fifth-annual-bash-a-violent-bitch-month/

(I added a space because reddit apparently silently removes any link to this site.)

Now. I welcome anybody to come up with any further examples. But as of right now. That's what I've got.

Let's move on to the worst of feminist groups.

Feminist groups stopping male victims of female rapists from being recognized in India, Israel, Nepal and the USA.

Feminist academics protecting female pedophiles by going against gender neutral child rape laws in India.

Feminists in academia denying gender symmetry in partner violence for over thirty years. and pushing antiscience theories

A coalition of women’s groups including the National Organization for Women lobbying against alimony reform

We have the duluth model.

Now. I think that covers what I can remember off hand. Let's move on to some quotes by influential feminists.

  • I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.

Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor

  • I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.

Andrea Dworkin, Feminist

  • Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice.

Andrea Dworkin, Feminist

  • The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist.

Ti-Grace Atkinson, Feminist

  • Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.

Susan Brownmiller, Feminist, Against Our Will p.6

  • The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.

Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future – If There Is One – Is Female

  • If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males.

Mary Daly, Feminist

  • And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference.

Susan Griffin, Feminist, Rape: The All-American Crime

  • Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.

Catherine Comins, Asst Dean at Vassa, Feminist.

  • I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.

Barbara Jordan, former Congresswoman, Feminist.

  • “Hatred of men is actually brave and courageous and we need to celebrate the women who are willing to openly display their hatred towards men.”

Psychologist/Feminist. Tracey Brimmer

Once again. This is just for the sake of comparison. And I invite people to add anything I missed in the comments.