Getting messages like this is why I continue to do what I do. We're not evil for feeling hurt.

Forgetaboutthelonely · 2021-08-06T06:52:39+00:00

When I asked permission to post this. The user in question responded with some more things they thought I should add.

I have their name censored because there's some things I think they'd prefer to keep silent. but you know who you are if you want to reveal yourself and add that extra bit.

If you want to mention my story, which I didn't tell much of, there are several reasons that I care about issues that affect men. I often present myself as a trans woman, but I think of myself as non-binary.

Here are some reasons I feel drawn to your subreddit.

1) Having been raised and "socialized" as a man, I still relate to men from personal experience.

2) More importantly, I feel like it's really gross to think that I, as an individual, have more or less value and dignity as a human being because I decided that I needed to undergo gender transition. Of course, there are many "gender critical feminists" who would say that I'm a man and always have been and I'm just trying to "invade women's spaces". There is an essay that really embodies how terf ideology is built on gender essentialism and misandry called "Pronouns are Rohypnol". It's disgusting and illustrates how those people think.

I also think that it's gross that I've been seen as weird or gross or creepy because I'm autistic. Autistic men are men and autistic women are women.

3) It's the right thing to do. To me, everyone deserves to have their struggles and pain taken seriously regardless of what they look like.

problem_redditor · 2021-08-06T11:45:43+00:00

I've got similar messages before. While most are not as elaborate or detailed, they're what has pushed me to keep doing this and continue commenting and making posts. I've seriously thought of giving up before because of how tiring the whole thing is, but once you become "red pilled" so to speak you can't tear yourself away from it. It's appalling to me how ignored and even ridiculed men's issues are, and how acceptable it is to spread false, demonising and hateful narratives about men in this culture. It's just such an abusive thing to do. And feminists continuously justify this state of affairs, cling on to their threat narrative against men as if their life depends on it and put out propaganda piece after propaganda piece aimed at worsening the situation.

TheLWMA · 2021-08-06T21:10:38+00:00

"I think that it's horrible that they sent you such a hateful message from a position of power"

That struck a chord with me.

For how these "progressive" subs talk about how it's not truly discrimination unless it's power + prejudice, they really can't see the irony.

They have way more power than we do. They can get the admins to ban our sub right now, for whatever reason they like, and we couldn't do anything about it. Simply because they don't like us or don't like what we talk about.

a-man-from-earth · 2021-08-06T08:31:00+00:00

This is such a beautiful message!

googitygig · 2021-08-06T16:37:36+00:00

What a lovely person.

The fact they took the time to clearly look at your situation, realize that the mods had been unfair to you and then craft such a thoughtful message of support is really a testament to their character.

Fast-Mongoose-4989 · 2021-08-06T13:54:11+00:00

That warmed me up in side. There's nothing wrong with kindness an understanding.

BloomingBrains · 2021-08-07T04:21:46+00:00

I have a really close friend who is a trans woman and she agrees with almost everything I bring up about gender politics in general, misandry, etc. and offers a lot of much appreciated support.

It's unsurprising, really, that people who have had the unique experience of actually living as more than 1 gender see things so clearly. If it weren't for the PC crowd pulling the LGBT towards the radical left I think it would we would see mass support from the trans community. You can look up lots of stories from trans women saying their lives improved so much when they started getting treated like a woman, or transmen saying how it was a shock how much worse they were treated. They are getting based because its impossible not to compare what life is like for both genders firsthand and not be.

The same could be said for gay men too, every single one I have talked to honestly about what its like being a straight guy has said how much of a nightmare it sounds like.

What I find interesting about all this how all these traditionally marginalized groups who have experienced bigotry and oppression are now starting to sympathize with us over shared experiences. It should be obvious, then, that the pendulum is swinging the other way. The popular narrative that the mainstream left pushes is that LGBT is supposed to be allied with women due to patriarchy, but the fact that a trans person who has been treated like garbage can identify with men, not women, really shows you who the favored group is.

Of course, misogyny still exists, but look who they decided to write the message to. People already care about women and offer support all the time. The fact that its considered remarkable for someone to do this for us is telling.

nocturnefox · 2021-08-06T19:46:52+00:00

Yep, too many people seem stuck on the idea that women as a group have it worse than men as a group to the point they act like the suffering of individual men and boys is insignificant. Reminds me of something I heard a lot growing up that someone else always has it worse than you. That's basically what they're saying and it always annoyed me without even adding in gender.

It's always refreshing to see someone who doesn't buy into that attitude

CourageousGoblin · 2021-08-06T14:30:14+00:00

This made me tear up a bit thank you

Title	Getting messages like this is why I continue to do what I do. We're not evil for feeling hurt.
Author	Forgetaboutthelonely
Upvotes	214
Comments	16
Date	August 6, 2021 6:49 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/oz1dme/getting_messages_like_this_is_why_i_continue_to/
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