Still relatively blue pill...looking for some input...

spaceTiberius · 2018-03-16T13:43:21+00:00

While I still myself find my bed quite empty at night to have someone to wrap my arm around and share life with, I get reminded daily that the struggle ain't worth it.

Women act the way they do because they're allowed and encouraged to, and the only language to say back is utter silence and disengagement. They wanna blame you for something you are not responsible for? Fine, have the premise to diplomatically tell them to go fuck themselves. Their attitudes, their problem to deal with, not yours.

Most importantly, you'll have to be your own best friend. Makes life so much easier to deal with when companionship is outta the picture. So start with that, and ridding yourself of Vagina-thirst will follow along by itself. YOU. ARE. THE. PRIZE. Make the wolves fight themselves over you.

As for the #metoo movement. Are there schmucks in hollywood demanding sexual favours of young or pretty actresses in exchange for role mentions? Absolutely, the point is, all women saw this as a chance to cement their playground rules in the Sexual Market. For every hollywood knucklehead that got dusted, hundreds of good, honest, hardworking men got burned at the stake too. So your assumptions over women being entitled snotty brats after #metoo, is correct.

Enjoy your stay.

ZeroTrust · 2018-03-16T13:59:11+00:00

I'm guessing you haven't suffered enough. You will understand when they actually do some truly evil shit to you or even worse your children. Seeing it and experiencing it are two different things.

blue pill simp in me is still longing for a life companion with a vagina.

I still long to believe in Santa Clause. It's not going to happen.

gershmonite · 2018-03-16T14:19:48+00:00

If by "carnal desire" you mean a desire for romance or a relationship, well, I never really got rid of such a thing. I still enjoy the thought of romance like I do the thought of time travel, endless riches, or anything else; I just understand it isn't going to happen the way we all picture it happening. Eventually you come to terms with that and stop hoping for such a thing, and it becomes...fine. Neither here nor there.

People look for the solution to loneliness and there isn't one -- and that includes relationships. Relationships do not cure loneliness, and it is far worse to be with someone and lonely than to be alone and lonely.

As for #metoo, like with overbearing laws, all it does is punish normal people who have no interest in harmful activity. #metoo won't deter rapists any more than laws will deter people who intend to commit crime -- they just hurt the average Joe.

2018-03-16T16:51:41+00:00

Honestly man... next time you work hard during the week and you feel accomplished, don't go home and lament that a woman is not patting you on the back. Instead, drag your butt to your favourite restaurant and buy a nice meal.

Learn to congratulate yourself, this is the beginning of self-love. Guys like you long for female approval, it's not about sex or fatherhood it's the approval you're so desperate for. Fuck man, just approve of yourself and move on.

Pellaeon_redpill · 2018-03-16T14:45:45+00:00

I get the feeling that women don't even want me to approach them because they think I'm some kind of creep

They don't. Women want men who already "just get it," they don't want men who have to try. Creep is basically their label for a non-Chad who is trying to be attractive. They don't actually fear rape from this person, they just know it's a useful weapon to guilt unattractive men into hiding their sexuality.

How does one truly shed themselves of carnal desire?

Masturbation, porn, and/or sex. If you mean shed your desire to be validated by women, you don't ever completely lose it, you learn to drastically reduce it by reinforcing your red pill beliefs with reality and practicing the skill of acceptance. You must learn to become "comfortable with discomfort."

I definitely see women for what a majority of them are, drug taking, daddy seeking or head cases

This is a gross simplification. Normally I wouldn't bother pointing it out, but you mentioned that you are still attached to blue pill thinking (congrats on being aware of that, by the way, few people are when they're in that phase). I would suggest doing more research on the nature of hypergamy (Rollo Tomassi's site, the rational male, I'd really good for this, even though he isn't MGTOW). Hypergamy is a trait that was actually beneficial for the survival of the species for mla LONG time. It's not inherently bad, it's just out of control and harmful in modern society.

The danger of this kind of over simplification is that you make yourself susceptible to thinking you've found a NAWALT when you meet a women who isn't drug taking, daddy seeking, or a "head case."

SuspectedLumber · 2018-03-16T14:04:41+00:00

Well, carnal desire is a different thing from wanting to be in a relationship. You can still date or get hookers. I just try to avoid dating, because I'm a sap, I know myself to be impressionable. So if you do date, be keenly aware of the danger.

As far as #metoo and women being unapproachable, spend some time reading others' contributions on here and that will change.

- "Are you telling me I can dodge bullets?"

- "No, what I'm telling you is when you're ready you won't have to."

:)

DarthLemons · 2018-03-16T13:46:29+00:00

Find a focus. A hobby or interest that you can really get into in your spare time, for example. Weaned myself off women years ago by getting heavily into reading, writing and studying astrophysics. Gaming helped too as I'm an avid gamer and women could never compete with me going full geek mode over WoW and EVE Online.

Depends on your interests tbh, focus and dig deep into the subject. That's how I did it. What are your hobbies and interests?

dday_throwaway3 · 2018-03-16T14:58:43+00:00

Read /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/ to remove any lingering doubt.

WhistlingAlong · 2018-03-16T15:59:30+00:00

Reading these articles is a start. Can't really define when you acceptance will hit but it will. Look a couple of pages back where a guy here just saw his 1st escort who gave him GFE (girlfriend experience) and that topic should clear a lot of your "still longing for a companion with a vagina" right up!

Mojomatrix · 2018-03-16T20:27:56+00:00

Monks are not White Knights. Suzi Rottoncrotch will use that rancid ass dried up pussy for one thing only: YOUR FUCKING MONEY. Never forget that.

Afab67 · 2018-03-16T19:30:23+00:00

A good man should never approach a woman because it is like throwing meat into a grinder. Learn to manage your desires through keeping busy and improving yourself. If the urge becomes too great, there are alternatives that should not be difficult to imagine. Just be safe.

KaitouNala · 2018-03-16T20:15:34+00:00

Thoughts?

you're guilty of 2 crimes not being super fit and being a 9 or 10/10 6' tall chad.

the second is despite your lack of "Chad" qualifications you lacked any display of social standing, need to be wearing a 2mil$ rolex and drive a 5mil$ car and make 7bil a year /s

creepy is just a meaningless shaming word for her finding no value in you as either a chad or an ATM.

pimpstag · 2018-03-16T22:15:33+00:00

Jerk off with better shit - get yourself an onahole or a fleshlight.

2018-03-16T19:23:54+00:00

You are correct women only want your resources, unless you are chad then she will take some cock. Women do not want 80% of the men available. So if you are smart you will simply go your own way or buy an 18 year old whore from time to time. Vagina in your life is a pathetic thing to desire. Rent pussy like you rent a car or a tuxedo.

rlh445 · 2018-03-16T19:25:36+00:00

I been on this road only a year but listen buddy: it’s going to take a long time to lessen your need for such (in truth it will only fade and every mgtow feels the pull at some time) and that’s not the point anyway.

The point is to realize the value you used to give to women, you are now giving to yourself. Focus on your life. No matter how hard it is.

The phrase, ‘Women don’t love you the way you love them,’ barreled through my brain and finished my redpill digestion. At times when you feel weak, remember that no matter how much you want companionship from a woman, it’s impossible to get that without willingly blinding yourself to the truth (being bluepill). They literally cannot truly be your companion, confidant, etc. Get a dog and spend more time with your friends and family.

Freefrombitches123 · 2018-03-16T23:15:34+00:00

Lots of us want what you want but know it's impossible and accept it.

cashmoney_x · 2018-03-17T04:34:33+00:00

"How does one truly shed themselves of carnal desire?"

You don't; you just realize the true costs and your sense fo self preservation does the rest.

Title	Still relatively blue pill...looking for some input...
Author	Type0x
Upvotes	42
Comments	29
Date	March 16, 2018 1:30 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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