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[–]r8001183 points184 points185 points 6 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
I'm just curious did the... ugh... "engineers" suffer any consequences? Any whatsoever?...
[–]lonewolfsigmamgtow125 points126 points127 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No no.... they were the first to run away , it was billy and willy who are still inside the rubble.
[–]omg_ppl_are_stupid55 points56 points57 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Most likely not.... I know we make fun of cuckstanada on here often but their engineers do have something right..... a knowledge of how their work can kill people. They have something called the iron ring, basically a bridge did collapse killing a lot of men because of engineer oversight. When you become an engineer there, you get a ring, that's made from the metal of that collapsed bridge to remind you how important your job is. I'm guessing the women working on this bridge have never actually had the accountability of life on their hands so they never worried about it.... and.... they probably didn't even suffer the guilt unlike many male engineers. Canada's engineer ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring Engineer who held guilt for not doing more for most of his life. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/21/470870426/challenger-engineer-who-warned-of-shuttle-disaster-dies
[–]bagomonkeys7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Older Canadian engineer here.
What you're saying used to be true. The meaning behind the ceremony on graduation was taken very seriously at one time.
But the universities and especially graduate schools have replaced Canadians with foreign students to a great degree. They generate far more money.
How seriously do you think an Indian or Chinese will take the ring and ceremony?
Seriously. They don't. At all. It's considered a joke and something to make fun of. I've been told this more than a couple of times by students.
[–]nate920 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, that's terrifying.
[–]bagomonkeys1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. And you can see this in technology today.
410 days to build the Empire State Building.
From Kennedy's man on the moon speech to the manned landing was 8 years. We've been working on going back for over 10 years now and still nowhere even started. It's becoming common knowledge that they are having terrible difficulties just reproducing technology from the 1960's.
Now look at technology innovation. This is where it gets scary.
What has come along that compares to electrification of the nation, the car, the airplane? Yes, the internet, but the first browser for popular use was in 1991. It's 28 years later and, yes, the internet is impressive but it's only incrementally advanced.
Do you know about the tritium problem? The United States has lost the ability to produce it. And I mean they've poured hundreds of millions into reproducing facilities that were built in the 1950's for the hydrogen bomb. There's been at last two attempts that I know of that failed.
Tritium is essential to modern nuclear weapons. It has a half life of 12 years. Do you see the problem?
This bridge collapse, a fucking bridge when Roman bridges are standing to this day. The rot is far deeper and wide spread than people realize. But at least we have Tindr. And diversity. LOL.
[–]manoylo_vnc3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Cucstanada?
[–]omg_ppl_are_stupid6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Canada.
[–]Dan-the-Partial-Man1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
all praise our re-elected king cuck
[–]xXx420VTECxXx2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Based Blackface Leaf
[–]hookbill21 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
very interesting, thank you for posting this
[–]Grant14120 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope, they absolutely would not have suffered guilt. Maybe embarrassment and social anxiety worrying about how people think of them, but they will feel no guilt.
[–]realChebz15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
of courses not, they blamed everything on contractors and whatnot. Women were probably promoted into another division.
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[–]realChebz0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's a little hyperbolic, but not by much.
wouldn't be surprised if this really happens
[–]Banned_For_Opinion6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well women are pretty much never held responsible for their actions, so no. I'm sure the men who hired them will have to deal with it.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The company filed for bankruptcy and changed it's name.
They'll be back getting those sweet "women only" federal contracts in no time.
[–][deleted] 139 points140 points141 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
If that bridge was free of humans at the time of that collapse, I'd be roling on the floor in hysteric laughter right now. Women live in simulation, not real life, what idiots.
[–]fmanly56 points57 points58 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I haven't read the report yet but I did see the summary video (which didn't really get to systemic/culture/etc problems). They saw cracks forming for days and knew they had a problem, and they were trying to apply a fix when it collapsed. They didn't shut down the road or take any protective steps while doing the repair.
Obviously the original design or construction was bad since the cracks formed, but there was a series of mishandling once the problem was apparent. If they closed the road as soon as the cracks were seen and then carefully removed the bridge until things could be sorted out, then it would have been an expensive mess, but most likely nobody would have died.
Obviously you shouldn't be counting on catching something like this after the fact, but to actually catch it and do nothing is far worse.
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I'm not sure you would. No honestly. I mean, I'm not engineer either, but I kinda have a gut feeling what would work and what not, and I'm sure you would, too.
As an exercise, try builing a spaghetti bridge https://www.teachengineering.org/activities/view/wpi_spag_act_joy
It behaves very close to the real thing. The math is there just to prove it actually works.
Math behind engineering is a recent thing. Romans, greek, they did everything by gut feeling. Think of that the next time you see ancient ruins.
[–]LiveTheTruth32125 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/dlsqqa/conclusion_to_the_allfemale_engineered_bridge/
This gives a good summary.
[–]fmanly16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I'll probably download and skim the official report at some point. The NTSB isn't going to get into diversity quotas for sure, but they're almost certainly going to go into the culture issues at some level. Certainly the NYT isn't going to bring up diversity.
Really though I'm not sure if this company really was particularly female-dominated but I haven't seen any solid analysis on that. They certainly promoted their diversity, but companies do that all the time. If a department has 300 guys and 3 girls, guess which three people are in all the photos? Certainly screw-ups like this aren't limited to women, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're hiring unqualified workers for the sake of diversity either...
[–]fmanly0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, they won't touch on diversity culture at all for sure.
However, they will talk about lack of processes to ensure adequate review, or training, or things of that nature.
I did read the official report, but it is still preliminary, and does not address cause yet. There was clearly a design problem based on the info so far, and cracks were visible that were unacceptable in size with inappropriate action taken.
However, they have not yet determined why a bad design was approved, or why no action was taken when the cracks were visible. I'm sure they will go at least one step further into that.
But, no, they're almost certainly not going to call out some diversity hiring program as the root cause, unless it was completely egregious, and if so they'll bring it up in the most roundabout manner possible.
[–]honda_vfr16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
People should go to jail.
[–]fmanly1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably, though which people is still up in the air.
I just read the actual NTSB report, which is still an interim update. They haven't determined root cause yet. What I read so far is that there was an error in design causing part of the bridge to be overloaded, and that the construction itself seemed to be ok (that is, the builders built what they were told to build properly, it was just never going to work).
The people factors will probably get more examination before the investigation is done. I mean, it is pretty obvious that a bunch of stuff was screwed up but the NTSB will likely dig into exactly who and how and why and make recommendations to prevent similar accidents in the future, beyond just "don't make mistakes."
[–]TheTruthIsAVirus62 points63 points64 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Besides their Birth Canal, most generally can't create jack shit besides useless things.
[–]80173541 points42 points43 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
... and problems.
[+]GracelySymphony-49 points-48 points-47 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, besides giving birth to a living, human being, woman can't do anything!
Do you hear yourself right now?
[–]larag567818 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not that they would design the birth themselves. It was given.
[–]UpperClassStout7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Yeah, besides taking a dude's creampie, women can't do anything!"
[–]Anal_WartHOGG6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He already implied the giving birth part you fucking idiot. You know, when he typed out 'birth canal'? dO yOu eVeN hEaR yOuRseLf rIgHt nOw? Congrats, you can poop a human.
[–]unholygunner7145 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And they now have the right kill said living human innocent being at their own discretion! What a time to be alive. The dead kids certainly cant say that.
[–]TheTruthIsAVirus2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh look a dumb cunt with a new alternative account. Now go fuck off.
[–]LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
They should put warning signs where applicable: "WARNING: WOMEN-DESIGNED STRUCTURE"
[–]LiveTheTruth32117 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They'd display it proudly. I honestly want to see an experiment on this and see what people's reactions and opinions are going to be.
[–]arokosi18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fellow women would be the first to avoid that shit. Manginas would risk it all to be in/on them.
[–]SomeGuy12512 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
THIS
That is the funniest part.
Only women know how TRULY shit women are.
[–]Speculum57 points58 points59 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
This investigation hurts my feelings.
[–]Velsoxof_2539 points40 points41 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
NTA, it's the patriarchy's fault
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If they knew who Isaac Newton was, they would blame him for inventing gravity.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"misogynist pig, Issac Newton uses gravity to pull women and feminists down and oppresse them"
[–]lonewolfsigmamgtow8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its ok to feel that way. 😶😶😶😐😐😐
[–]geralt_targaryen6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I cherish you, I'm here if you need to talk
[–]arokosi2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao
[–]arokosi1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol
[–]RunawayGrain56 points57 points58 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The Female Engineers Responsible: "This proves physics is misogynistic and needs to be deconstructed."
[–]milordi9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Newton is cancelled
[–]LOIKDU[S] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh my god
[–]mani_tapori4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, that bridge was deconstructed.
[–]MiG35ToW28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They need to investigate every project that company did.
[–]LiveTheTruth32116 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They changed their name (from Munilla Con. Mngt. to Magnum Con. Mngt.) just before they filed for Chapter 11
[–]Le_Casual27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hmmm… did 2 feminists step on it? Could be enough weight to let it collapse.
[–]DoDo_0124 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh you didn't get the memo? Math is a bigot and oppressive . Now we will have majors in gender studies building Bridges and buildings
https://reason.com/2019/10/22/seattle-math-oppressive-cultural-woke/
[–]arokosi11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They’re just re-enacting Simpsons scripts at this point.
[–]JihadNinjaCowboy23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That feminist bridge is a good metaphor for the coming collapse of the West, caused by partly by the social degeneracy enabled by the Left, including feminists.
[–]milordi7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminist bridge - Tower of Babel of our times.
[–]MrMagtow20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Typically, when an engineering construction fails this badly, and people have died, the responsible people typically go to jail.
Women won't though. That's the society we live in. Women are never responsible even when they're directly responsible.
[–]Joroda17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"we're building bridges for tolerance and equalOOOOOH SHIIIIIII CRUUUUNCH"
[–]lonewolfsigmamgtow16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good Job Front Holes. 😂😂😂😂
[–]Marque0117 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The engineers investigating the collapse told the board members the cracks were 40 times larger than what is commonly accepted. Dan Walsh said they were "alarming warning signs," saying it was as if "the bridge was talking" to the contractors. "The bridge was talking to them, but it wasn't just talking, it was screaming at them," said Sumwalt. "Yet no one was listening."
The engineers investigating the collapse told the board members the cracks were 40 times larger than what is commonly accepted. Dan Walsh said they were "alarming warning signs," saying it was as if "the bridge was talking" to the contractors.
"The bridge was talking to them, but it wasn't just talking, it was screaming at them," said Sumwalt. "Yet no one was listening."
Now where have we seen that behaviour before? :)
[–]frikabg5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
,the bridge was mansplaining to them which is why they ignored it.
[–]badaboomxx16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I, as a civil engineer, read about the design flaws, and some information about how they removed things like cables because didn't look good, but at the same time didn't re calculate everything to make sure it was safely to do so...... it was a mess, not even 5mins and you'd find a lot of errors with those modifications.
I remember watching some comments, defending those idiots at first, then suddenly disappear when the constructors probed that they did everything like the design said. It was really a shit test, even worse that 6 people died that day because of those idiots.
[–]kayfab5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
those bitches should all be sent to jail..... feminist my ass
Feminism doesn’t last very long bc it ends up bankrupting society.
[–][deleted]6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've been skeptical of Snopes lately but this seems like fake news
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-all-female-responsible-bridge-collapse/
[–]toogamer4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I fucking hate all the misinformation everywhere. The mainstream media does it too, however I will trust them (albeit with a grain of salt) much more compared to shitty social media posts.
[–]nocivo0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is not about women. There are plenty competent engineers women. The problem is the quotas. Instead of hiring the best for the job they get only vaginas just because.
[–]larag56783 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sexist investigation.
[–]maoaomao2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They do it to themselves, man
[–]DeplorableToast4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Soon it will be more than just feminist bridges collapsing!
The bursting of this clown-world-bubble is going to be glorious!
[–]cl0ck3d2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What do you guys mean by feminist bridge?
[–]xero-wing13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This bridge was designed by an all female team. There’s mire to it then that but can’t remember.
[–]RD_of_Constantinople2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry Bro....FIGG Engineering ,the designers of the bridge is run by a woman, but the Engineer on record was a Dude by the name of Denney Pate.
[–]DankyBlaze1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I would appreciate discourse over downvotes, but I thought it was debunked that the engineers were all women?
Source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-all-female-responsible-bridge-collapse/
[–]OutrunningTurtles2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It was debunked, but the commentators here would rather only read the sources they agree with
[–]DankyBlaze1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it is true that the all-female engineer angle is false, then it's posts like these that hurt the image and credibility of our community, and imo the mods need to step in and make a flair on OPs post.
[–]toogamer1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, exactly. I don't know why these people snoop down to the very thing that they say they fight against. Baseless accusations.
MGTOW is degrading in quality, to be honest. It has a lot of social media posts and facebook tier memes (which mean nothing), and a bunch random, sometimes meaningless accusations about everything that COULD be related to women doing something bad. This community is slowly turning into a "oh I found something bad that some random women have done!"
I really treasure the men here who talk about their experiences with women or life and talk about what they are doing to improve themselves and be happy.
I agree with the core philosophy and ideas of MGTOW. Yes, the sociopolitical environment is starting to disadvantage men or view men in a very bad perspective. At the same time, that doesn't mean a lot of this content isn't shit, like this post about a baseless allegation.
[–]ducaati0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, there ya go.
[–]mgtowboy_290 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When was this built?
[–]hollydoll270 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People try to say that it wasn't the fault of the women who headed the operation, but it was and many people know it. These women need to be held accountable for the lives of those people lost just so they could play "strong woman that dont need no man to build a bridge" turns out...you do!
[–]superyadi0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop. People died
[–]RegiusGeralt0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Too afraid to call them out. But it has to be if this happens again I told you so.
[–]devok10 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That shit was inspected and approuved , nobody going to jail??
[–]drugsnbooze0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How do you know it was built by women?
[–]toogamer0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is a valid fucking question. Sources are required for accusations like this. Don't fucking snoop down to the level of feminist accusations. Stop downvoting this valid question.
This tragedy almost certainly was not a "female caused" issue. If there is no evidence to support the claim, then it can be disregarded without any evidence. Also, because some people won't take that evidence, https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-all-female-responsible-bridge-collapse/
(Yes I fucking hate snopes too, but they are usually correct, or have extremely biased wording at the most)
[–]drugsnbooze1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it was a real question. If it was actually a "feminist bridge" and women were responsible somehow that's horrible(and believable) but I doubt that story would ever get out because whamen cant be responsible for such a tragedy. But to make something like that up is a new low for mgtow.
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