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5 Feminist Myths that Will Not Die

mellvins059

May 25, 2015
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/r/MensRights
http://time.com/3222543/5-feminist-myths-that-will-not-die/
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Title 5 Feminist Myths that Will Not Die
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mellvins059

Upvotes 196
Comments 24
Date May 25, 2015 10:00 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3795h2/5_feminist_myths_that_will_not_die/
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Comments

[–]_drooski 34 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

The gender wage gap one is the most prevalent and to me, the most easily debunked. It baffles me that even after explaining to feminists that the 23 cent gap is the disparity between the average income of all full-time working women and all full-time working men, and doesn't account for difference in career, choice of major, time taken off, and wage negotiations, they still parrot the "statistic".

[–]chinawinsworlds 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When something that collides with their world view is presented, the brain part that governs memory and logic seems to shut down.

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[–]wanderer779 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their lack of basic knowledge of other subjects outside of gender studies is disappointing. It's almost as if they have never studied anything else. /s

[–]nopurposeflour 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I always ask why wouldn't a business hire someone who makes 23% less but has the same qualifications and does the same work? It makes no business sense. I would hire all women just to keep the extra profit if that were the case as a business owner. When it comes down to it, it's all about money and not genitalia.

[–]Juan_Golt 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They will just go up one level of indirection and start over.

"You think women just chooooose to get paid less? Maybe we treat ambitious women differently! #banbossy"

[–]RockFourFour 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I were tasked with renovating a football stadium, I would hire a group of feminists.

...because they're so good at moving goalposts!

Amirite, guys?

[–]eletheros 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Math is STEM, and isn't needed for either a gender studies degree or the eventual barista job after that degree is done.

[–]CoffeeQuaffer 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I went through the list first, and wondered how Time published such a neutral article. I scrolled to locate the author. CHS. That explains everything. Still, kudos to Time for having her on.

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[–]CoffeeQuaffer 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

The article does not attack feminism as a whole. Instead, it limits its scope to the most common fallacies of people who identify as feminists. An article that is not neutral about this topic would either call for the end to feminism or call for more people to sign up for feminism.

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[–]CoffeeQuaffer 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Partly. IMO, identifying as feminist is one of the two criteria. The other criterion is to be supportive of feminist talking-points such as patriarchy, male privilege, intersectionality, internalized sexism, etc.

I understand it's fruitless for me to argue with your GF through you, but I hope you know that the usual (glib) counterargument to 'anyone who values equality would be a feminist' is 'anyone who values equality would be an MRA'.

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[–]CoffeeQuaffer 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Reading material... that's a difficult one for me to answer. There are some books mentioned in the sidebar. I haven't read any of them. I don't call myself an MRA, so I don't feel obliged to read much myself, or even to keep myself up-to-date with the latest happenings. I used to read all the latest articles at www.avoiceformen.com when I was new to MRM issues. I have watched all of Karen Straughan's videos, and I recommend them to anyone who asks.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Telling that no one going against the article has a leg to stand on. At least in the comments I read.

One person said CH Sommers "claimed that there is no such thing as sex slave trade". These people are insane.

And then there's always the idiots saying shit like this;

My concern with this article is that it potentially minimizes the reality of actual issues that do persist and need our collective attention.

It's like they don't even read what Sommers is saying. God forbid you want resource management to be better, and for issues to be tackled in realistic terms.

You can't solve a problem treating it like it's bigger than it is. We act like we live in a rape culture, so we become extremely restrictive, we strip people of due process, and create a whole host of other issues by tackling the problem incorrectly.

Rape happens, but it's not an epidemic. People die in car accidents too, but should we start to claim that by 2020, 7 billion people will die in a car accident? Should we funnel all our resources there? No.

Our "solutions" to overblown problems aren't solving the actual problem. They're solving an imaginary problem and they're creating more problems.

That's why we have to actually have real stats to address. So we can address it properly and as best as we can. And then we also don't waste finite resources, and can solve even more real problems.

[–]augustfell 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, instead of acknowledging when a relevant fact has been pointed out, they'll argue about how such a fact distracts from other issues, or how that particular fact might be misused by someone with bad intentions. Then the fact is promptly forgotten.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I still get this surreal feeling reading this stuff on Time. That place has never been the same (in a good way) ever since they voted feminism the most abominable word of the year or something.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Old article! Has this been posted before?

[–]mellvins059[S] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably but I'd never seen it and obviously neither have others here.

[–]PerniciousOne 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hilarious, I was wondering why this information was being posted in time magazine until at the very end I saw the author! Great article!

[–]augustfell 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Christina Hoff Sommers is great, but are there any other female researchers/popularizers doing similar work? If CHS were to suddenly die I imagine there would be quite a void.

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[–]mellvins059[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How productive...

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