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Women's Rights Advocate Argues Against Equality with Respect to the Draft

Spoonwood

December 17, 2015
52 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://archive.is/kkWfQ
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Title Women's Rights Advocate Argues Against Equality with Respect to the Draft
Author

Spoonwood

Upvotes 52
Comments 14
Date December 17, 2015 6:24 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3x6lxr/womens_rights_advocate_argues_against_equality/
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Comments

[–]baserace 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Outstanding mental gymnastics.

10/10 would laugh/cry/eye-pop again.

[–]BlueCollarAristocrat 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Just another example of females selecting on the good parts of reality from the shelf of life, while leaving responsibility, accountability and obligation behind, because those ramifications are only for men.

[–]youhatetruth 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"How do you write women so well?"

"I think of a man, and I remove reason, and accountability!"

As Good As It Gets

[–]bertreapot 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In some cases, the underprivileged gender must be favoured to be able obtain similar results.

There you have it. As women are "underprivileged," equality actually means favored treatment to feminists. How about they stop calling what they want "equality," then.

[–]Mattstric 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't believe she even wrote that and didn't realize what the fuck she was saying.

The game is for feminists to get a bunch of free shit and special treatment and call it equality. And she gave up the game.

It's like when Fox News mentions the republican talking points they've been given; you're supposed to keep playing the game without letting the other side know there is a game.

[–]comehitherhitler 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The other side knows the game. It's the casual observer and the useful idiot who can be fooled.

[–]Black_caped_man 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What it all boils down to is that women should be able to have the choice to do whatever they want while men don't. If a woman wants to be a CEO she should be able to be a CEO because reasons.

How is it an illusion to believe that recruiting women en masse into the lower levels of military won't have an effect on the larger structures? With more women in the military it will be less male dominated, women will be more likely to rise in ranks because there is a greater selection of women.

Having more women in the military will militarize women... no fuckin shit sherlock. What did you think the military was for? picking daisies?

Ah yes the military should focus on non-violence, you know that already happens right? And that despite all the conflicts going on in the world we live in the most peaceful times in the history of the world right? However there still needs to be a defense for the crazies that still exist out in the world. As long as you can take things by force there are going to be people taking things by force and no amount of words can stop them.

How can a person not see this?

[–]Niketi 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Norwegian Association for Women’s Rights (NKF) considers female conscription as a misunderstanding of the concept of gender equality and the intentions of the Law on Equality. Gender equality implies first and foremost that women and men should have the same human rights and fundamental freedoms. Women should be valued and allocated power and resources on equal terms with men. But women and men do not have to be alike or do the same things to be equal.

How do you even debate this? This is what feminists actually believe. They want the same rights and benefits, without any of the duties or obligations to go with it. This is the mentality of a spoiled teenager.

Equality is a two-way street ladies. You can't enjoy all of the benefits with none of the drawbacks.

To ensure gender equality it is important in many cases that women and men are treated equally. But they should not necessarily be treated equally in all situations. In some cases, the underprivileged gender must be favoured to be able obtain similar results.

Feminism: a female supremacist movement.

[–]bufedad 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To ensure gender equality it is important in many cases that women and men are treated equally. But they should not necessarily be treated equally in all situations. In some cases, the underprivileged gender must be favoured to be able obtain similar results

Any logical person would understand that this means conscripting more women than men for awhile since men are underprivileged when it comes to conscription.

[–]Iwanttoliveinspace 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism: "WE WANT EQUALITY IN ALL AREAS"

Society: "Here you go, also, you'll need to go work in the crap areas like the sewage department and garbage collection"

Feminism: "WE WANT EQUALITY IN ALL BOARD ROOM AND HIGHPAYING JOB AREAS"

Society: "Ok, fair enough, also you need to go to war as well"

Feminism: "WE WANT EQUALITY IN ALL BOARD ROOM AND HIGHPAYING JOB AREAS AND DON'T WANT OUR LEGS BLOWN OFF"

Society: "That's not equality"

Feminism: "We have vaginas and tits, favourable treatment please"

(Also, side note: Does this woman's reasoning mean that any woman that can't have children naturally needs to go off to war?)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

-" I am more than a baby machine!"

-"Cool, go help the men defend our borders"

-"You can't expect me to do that! I need to make babies for the homeland!"

She literally makes this argument

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since child care and caring for elders is both expected of women AND impossible to perform while in the military, it seems the solution to closing BOTH gaps is compelling women to enter the armed forces.

I understand society is going to need people to take care of the elderly and children. Men are quite capable of doing that and quite frankly should, but because it's impossible to do while in the military thankfully the genders don't have to be treated equally to achieve equality.

I propose female only conscription and a female only military (It's just Norway. Who the heck will the need to fight that they have a chance of beating by themselves anyway?). It should close the gender pay gap too since men will have to cut back on work to handle the child care.

[–]DavidByron2 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Does the OP know if the women's groups mentioned are feminist groups or more like conservative women's groups like the CWA or Eagle Forum in the USA? They'd sound pretty much identical on these issues so it's hard to say.

[–]Spoonwood[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, they certainly look like feminists... see here: https://archive.is/GFsYE#selection-465.0-465.191 and here: http://womenalliance.org/inauguration-speech-by-iaw-president-joanna-manganara

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