"American Circumcision" Documentary Film has Launched its Kickstarter!! - Please Consider Donating Towards This Incredibly Important Movie!!

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]NOT_A_SENTIENT_DILDO 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Religious and cosmetic purposes. Anyone that says it's more hygenic or helps prevent HIV infections are delusional as all fuck. And there are several legitimate medical reasons as well. Conditions where the foreskin will act as a tournequet on your dick and several others. But 99% of the time these are only manifest in adult men. Not children. But you can google those on your own.

The idea of it keeping you clean was popularized during the 1880's and 1890's back when one bath/shower a month was standard.... eliminating your asshole would be cleaner too in that situation but we can't cut that off. And just a fun factoid; during the same time period a common wedding practice was taking your new wife to a dentist to pull all her healthy teeth out.. because it was cleaner to do so. So you know... great argument especially now that we have showers in our homes. Cause it isn't common sense to wash your dick off or anything... so it's cleaner. Or something.

And how in God's name can removing skin help prevent HIV infections? How? Seriously. Explain the mechanism to me. That's actually a newish misconception based on an entirely flawed study from South Africa where a decrease in sex drive was linked to a decrease in chances of getting HIV. It's basically saying if I cut off my finger you would have to say i have less chance of getting tetanus cause that finger may have been the one to get stabbed by a rusty nail. I still can easily as fuck get tetanus... just not from the finger i cut off!!!! :D

And anyone that says it doesn't damage the sensitivity of the penis.... fucking. Bull. Shit. When you remove your foreskin you remove 40-60% of the nerve ending in your entire cock. In the 1950's it was popularized among adult men to get the procedure in order to directly decrease sensitivity and therefor desire for sex. So to say it doesn't do any damage... while it was advertised as a damage doer... in a time where it was normal for married couples slept in seperate rooms.... and not okay for them to share beds.... it was advertised as a cure for sex drive. So how people do the mental gymnastics to say it does no significant damage is beyond me.

The only legitimate reason to subject a person to circumcision is if an ADULT male gets it done voluntarily for WHATEVER REASON HE WANTS.

Edit: sorry if I'm snippy or rude in this i was just trying to be informative not rude at all. I just get really heated over this topic cause it's just so fucked up that people can sit there safely behind their keyboards and talk about a mother's "right"to choose if her child gets circumcised. While ignoring the child's right to.... idk their body or something..... /s

Edit 2: related to my last paragraph and the last edit. Don't even get me started on the almost 200 infants a year that fucking DIE either of the procedure or subsequent complications sprouting from the procedure. Or the hundreds of infants every year that are permanently mutilated due to mistakes during the procedure. Risk free my fucking asshole. If the way your own sons cock looks is more important to you than them avoiding any risk of that level you don't deserve that child.

Edit 3: again just heated cause of the topic but i love that you're asking these questions. (:

And to anyone that doubts anything I'm saying... google botched circumcision. Or circumcision infection. Or anything else remotely like that. I DARE YOU to click images and scroll to the bottom. You'll agree with me after. It's the male version of female genital mutilation and we have people in this country finding fault with protestors of circumcision cause.... reasons.

[–]TorontoIntactivist 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]TorontoIntactivist 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]functionalsociopathy -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[+][deleted] -12 points-11 points-10 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[+][deleted] 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[+][deleted] -12 points-11 points-10 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it is a waste of money Isn't it up to people what they spend their money on? I personally know a woman who makes a living by getting strange men on the internet to send her money. Several times, I've seen links on social media where people try to crowdfund money to get their sons cut. Isn't that a "waste of money"?

the practice is already dieing out quickly

It's not dying quickly enough. I can't tell you how many times I've read about people who've said that if they were warned beforehand, there's no way they'd have done this. Obviously, it's not getting talked about enough

it causes no impairments.

Oh, doesn't it? So I imagined having an operation this February to get some skin bridges removed, did I? Thank goodness for that! With any luck, being circumcised at all will prove to be yet another figment of my imagination!

What a silly thing to say. Countless men have been affected by this unnecessary procedure. I've had other problems besides the aforementioned, and I'm lucky compared to some guys. All for something that isn't even needed in the first place, in the name of stupid things like conformity, ancient religious nonsense, paternal egotism, etc. Short of an outright ban on doing it to children when there's no immediate need (and no, all this shit about old men who need to get circumcised at 80 or whatever should not be a concern to the parents of a newborn boy) I would have it so that parents are forced to look at images of botched circumcisions, as well as having to watch a video of the procedure itself. I guarantee that a lot more parents would say "Fuck this", and keep their son the way he's supposed to be.

[–]BaldursShield 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[+]TheFoxAgrees -32 points-31 points-30 points 9 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link

[–]BaldursShield 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]functionalsociopathy 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

[+]TheFoxAgrees -20 points-19 points-18 points 9 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

[–]functionalsociopathy 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The way circumcision is performed in the states it is idiotic, borderline retarded, to consider it in any way benificial from a medical perspective. It permenantly changes an infant's brain chemistry to be less trusting of their surroundings. It impairs your immune system as the forskin contains specialized organelles that keep the glans healthy. It fucks with your nervous system as circumcised men consistenly report a lower pain threshold than intact men (likely due to losing 20,000 nerve endings at once). It removes the glan's cover of the glans causing it to keratinize and become a worse instrument for intercouse. There is also an endless list of complications that can arise from it. In my case there are two small nicks of flesh missing on my glans. They appeared as small dark spots, but they lead to horrible cramp-like sensations in my glans periodically until I went through the process of stretching my shaft skin to cover them. The complications in my case are a blessing to how bad off some people are because of their circumcision.

All this suffering is because there are pediatricians that refuse to admit that partially amputating an infant's penis has serious negative effects, and blind idiots following the "circumcision is great" rhetoric back them up every step of the way. If you like the way your maimed cock looks good for you, but that doesn't justify abusing your child.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]BaldursShield 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[+]TheFoxAgrees -19 points-18 points-17 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]BaldursShield 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]TheFoxAgrees -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]BaldursShield 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]TheFoxAgrees 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"I'm happy I was circumcised. I don't remember it and my dick looks beautiful. If I have a son he is going to be circumcised. Uncircumcised dicks look gross compared to mine."

This doesn't sound like you don't think it's a big deal. That would suggest indifference, of which there was none of in your comment. I don't think that the colour of my eyes are a big deal, for example. That's conveying a completely different message to "The colour of my eyes is beautiful, and every other eye colour is shit compared to mine". The fact that this was your knee-jerk reaction to a simple discussion on the subject makes me suspect that you're on the defensive.

You yourself said "I would be mad if I didn't get it. That should be a good enough argument.", yet everyone who says "I'm mad that this was done to me, that should be a good enough argument [to not cut off parts of a child's penis]." Why is your argument "good enough", yet anyone whose opinion differs from yours is "crying"?

[–]adeptio_consummo 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]adeptio_consummo 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link

[+][deleted] 9 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[–]sillymod 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

The evidence goes either way, depending on which study you read.

Some studies say that circumcision helps prevent against AIDs. There is a lot of criticism that these studies were paid to find that conclusion, and that their statistical analysis is severely flowed.

Some studies say that there is a strong link between ADHD, Autism spectrum, and circumcision. The argument is that the trauma at such a young age in development induces a lasting psychological effect in some children who are susceptible to it. However, it is hard to make a conclusive claim with correlative data only.

There are also some studies showing correlation between erectile disfunction and circumcision.

What isn't up for debate is the number of medical problems that occur with circumcision. A small, but not insignificant, number of circumcised people have lasting deformities to their penis as a result of problems during the procedure (including bent head of the penis). In addition, there are complications that can lead to the death of the child (which includes but isn't limited to the rare orthodox jewish procedure of sucking the blood, in which priests with oral STDs can transfer them to children whose immune systems can't cope).

Many people report no known problems with their circumcision. For them, great! That is fine. Never-the-less, the procedure was not chosen willingly. The medical claims FOR circumcision are very weak. Thus, it ends up being a similar practice to female genital mutilation - unsupported and unnecessary. The same arguments against circumcision apply as for female genital mutilation. Saying that it is a valid religious procedure is not a valid argument anymore than saying it is a valid religious procedure for women to be circumcised (as in some Islamic faiths).

[–]umar4812 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[+][deleted] 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

[+][deleted] 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]sillymod 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[+][deleted] 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[permanently deleted]

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Imnotmrabut 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]adeptio_consummo -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Imnotmrabut 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Imnotmrabut 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Imnotmrabut 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]sillymod 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Title	"American Circumcision" Documentary Film has Launched its Kickstarter!! - Please Consider Donating Towards This Incredibly Important Movie!!
Author	Foregen_Is_Life
Upvotes	70
Comments	55
Date	October 24, 2016 3:55 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/59599t/american_circumcision_documentary_film_has/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/american-circumcision-documentary-film-has.939081 https://theredarchive.com/post/939081

Comments