Why men don't want to get married.

tomek77 · 2009-11-04T22:04:47+00:00

That was too much to read for me, but that GawainsGhost's quote near the bottom is a masterpiece!

Raff001 · 2009-11-04T22:38:28+00:00

Once was enough for me... never again.

2009-11-05T04:24:28+00:00

Good read. Thanks Mennit. I'm frequently pleasantly surprised at the quality of links coming out of this subreddit. Keep justifying your position on the frontpage and I look forward to a growth in content and subscribers in the future.

Telekinesis · 2009-11-05T07:52:51+00:00

Lamont Cranston : Did you know that your live-in female partner can request a restraining order against you, and get it? All she has to do is be willing to state that she "feels threatened." You have no appeal, there is no trial, and you do not get to tell your side of the story. With a stroke of his pen, the judge will throw you out of your home and banish you to at least 1000' away. If you're lucky you'll get to go and retrieve your clothes.

This can be your apartment, your house you build with your own hands, or even a dwelling that's been in your family for five generations. Doesn't matter. What matters is she "feels threatened."

Even if she calms down and the retraining order expires, it will sit there, on your record forever, and any time you have to interface with officialdom, you'll have to explain it.

Cohabiting is a fools game. I'm married, and actually pretty damn happy. But I got very, very lucky. I'd never do it again. All the legal power is in the woman's hands, and if she gets mad, you're doomed.

Another good comment, and a terrifying one.

I can never see myself putting a noose like that around my neck. I've seen from those around me false accusations like this from women many times, my cousin was accused of attacking his girlfriend with a butcher knife but it was actually her that attacked him and of course they automatically suspected him because he was a male; 3 years he was in hell before he was cleared. The amount of stress he was put through was unimaginable.

Gareth321 · 2009-11-04T23:46:43+00:00

I shamelessly upvoted the title.

Telekinesis · 2009-11-05T08:14:26+00:00

Must keep posting, so much awesome comments in here!

Ten : Helen, as a single father who's been through the divorce industry's ringer for 12 years, and who still loves women, I can easily confirm Baskerville's observations about the staggeringly unconstitutional family law problem. Marriage means vast personal risk, typically to men. I'm not going there ever again and I'm sure millions agree with and hold that decision themselves.

But I want to address the myths I've uncovered in those 12 years, a dozen years dating perhaps two dozen women.

The notion that women want emotional security is a myth. They want financial security and evidently by nearly any means. Emotional security these days is constituted of replacing the male protector with the State. Men are actually impediments to such "security", hence the security of a male companion or life partner is destroyed. American women place no evident value on the emotional security of a true partner, per se. In fact, they reject and even destroy it when they find it.
Communication. Pursuant #1, a typical single woman has built a network of like-minded women and thus-emasculated single men. Communications are limited to vagaries, superficialities, and keeping up the luxury of State-assisted escapism. Men, as before, are girlfriends, and not equipped for classic male relationships of any duration. The myth of a need for communication is just that. The irony is that the more communicative a man is, the more he becomes a girlfriend.
The most disturbing myth is that of the desirable sensitive male, that again pursuant #1 and #2. Every single male friend I have confirms that women have far more need to be spoken down to or at than they do to be treated as an intellectual equal or emotional/spiritual peer. In fact, women consistently admit being attracted to abusive men, the Bad Boys they think excite them and give them access to alpha characteristics. The sensitive, compassionate, truthful male is obsolete. Women no more respect them than they can themselves.

Without question, the contemporary, liberated, American female is a quagmire of internal conflict, torn between the "excitement" of going it on her own against/with male curs because it excites her, and living with the knowledge that society and government policy offer her some degree of protection from them. She is by now her own self-fulfilling prophecy

She has accepted being taught that her animalistic sex-in-the-city core is all she is, and that higher level function such as spiritual love, permanence, fidelity, honor, and accountability are social impediments. The feminization of women themselves at the hands of feminism's myths has stripped her of her self-worth, to replace it with the accouterments of political access and the myth of liberation.

While it's painful to see that many of us (including in this thread) have likewise accepted the postmodern, feminized, secular-progressive myth that men need only sexual access, it's far more painful to see how we've stripped the very soul from the American feminine experience. Contemporary women revel in their inner "goddesses", even while believing they are no more than vehicles for petty thrills and social competition.

Why are American men staying single in droves? The answer is that there are no real single women left in this country in any quantity. Men die years earlier than women, especially when single, while women own billions of dollars more in personal property, partly as the result.

The final myth is that men need only sex and that women need companionship. Precisely the opposite is true -- men greatly desire bona fide, classical female companionship and women do not desire true male companionship unless they can compete with it, having been sold that "progressive" bill of goods.

Feb 7, 2008 07:39 AM

JFP :

Telekinesis · 2009-11-05T07:05:48+00:00

SGT Ted : "...give young men a choice between serious drama on the one hand, and Victoria’s Secret models, battling cyborgs, exploding toilets, and the NFL on the other, and it’s the models, cyborgs, toilets, and football by a mile."

And here is one of the reasons why: Snearing at mens entertainment choices. I am married and a grandfather. I don't care for much of whats on TV and chickflicks are chickflicks, not guyflicks. When was the last time this woman sat with her man to watch exploding cyborges or interact with him in a video game? Why is sitting like a drone in front of the TV at night "better" than interacting with others playing an online video game?

Why is her entertainment choice "better" than his? Isn't it the typical feminista arrogance to want to control what men like to watch?

These types of women don't get men and they don't want to; they want them to be girlfriends with a penis and upperbody strength, rather than individuals with their own likes and dislikes that are very different from women. duh. Talk about self centered thinking.

Awesome comment.

Offensive_Brute · 2009-11-05T08:29:16+00:00

Adulthood is something completely lacking in our society and I blame the boomers who are obsessed with youth, and coddled their children, and now their children are obsessed with youth and coddling their children. The old people try to stay young forever, and part of that is keeping their children young for as long as possible. Its pure selfishness, and fear of mortality.

AnnArchist · 2009-11-04T20:47:41+00:00

holy shit thats a lot to read.

exlex · 2009-11-05T02:58:36+00:00

Don't get married—get a vasectomy.

Rain_Bow · 2009-11-05T11:53:47+00:00

And who says women want. I'm married but sometime I just want to be free

BenedictKenny · 2009-11-05T01:44:12+00:00

As you get further down, this page gets BLATENTLY racist.

There are good quotes, but the statement about the "ignorant black man about to be in the white house (as opposed to the aware McCain," and that "all non-whites are conspiring against the white male," turned me off to this article. You could have at least warned us about the racism, OP.

Title	Why men don't want to get married.
Author	Sarcasticus
Upvotes	48
Comments	30
Date	November 4, 2009 8:12 PM UTC (16 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a0zym/why_men_dont_want_to_get_married/
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Must keep posting, so much awesome comments in here!

JFP :