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Radio Station Bans This Classic Christmas Song Because It Allegedly Promotes Date Rape

TheAndredal

December 1, 2018
48 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dailywire.com/news/38906/radio-station-bans-classic-holiday-song-because-it-paul-bois?fbclid=IwAR0nE4r6SwaguLMjTe-U9AnNo_aulYTrIYARag_z-xlQLn5cf-kZbrpKqfA
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Title Radio Station Bans This Classic Christmas Song Because It Allegedly Promotes Date Rape
Author

TheAndredal

Upvotes 48
Comments 36
Date December 1, 2018 1:31 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a2318u/radio_station_bans_this_classic_christmas_song/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/radio-station-bans-this-classic-christmas-song.1183519
https://theredarchive.com/post/1183519
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Comments

[–]vegeta8300 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I read the article, but I'm still not seeing how this is about rape. Because he offered drinks? Him wanting her to stay? To me the context is a couple enjoying time together. But, she has to head home. As they aren't married yet. They both want to stay there together. So they are kinda looking for any excuse on why they have to stay there and spend time with each other.

If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything starts looking like nails. It seems like rape has come to mean almost anything.

[–]TheAndredal[S] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

well, as far as i understood it, it's because the woman is playing hard to get in the song. Therefore it's rape because he continues to court her

[–]Neko404 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And yet even in current year if he actually backed off he would still be publicly shamed for playing along with her silly little game of hard to get.

[–]vegeta8300 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But, she wants to stay too, she just knows she should get home. Rapes meaning has gone from violent forced sexual intercourse to "baby, don't go"... I just don't even...

[–]AnotherDAM -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Flip it and see what IS overplayed:

The Men's Room, a nationally syndicated radio show, plays Sublime's Date Rape - link to lyrics near the end of every show.

Yea - let's celebrate ambiguous situations ending in prison rape.

[–]Ragnrok 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ambiguous situations ending in prison rape.

Lyrics from the song:

that's when things got out of control.

she didn't want to, he had his way.

she said."let's go" he said."no way!" ...

if it wasn't for date rape i'd never get laid.

This is ambiguous to you? The fuck is wrong with you?

[–]AnotherDAM 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That the author is presenting the narrative as if he had been there - but is really a third party assuming the narrative.

The cultural zeitgheist is this narrative, assume the woman is the victim.

I mean, it isn't as if YOU cherry picked out of the lyrics to make your point ... no wait, it is exactly that.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Find the Feminist Troll is a fun game :)

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]vegeta8300 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But it wasn't him pressuring her. It was him saying out loud what they both wanted. She wants to stay, but do to needing to get home she cant.

[–]Ragnrok 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The song is (well, should be) a great reminder of how far society has come. Instead of playing stupid games and worrying about what other people might think, these days when a girl wants to spend the night and the guy wants her to spend the night, she just spends the damn night and no one gives a fuck.

Maybe that's the real reason certain people hate the song. They want to believe we're a Supreme Court ruling away from a Handmaid's Tale and reminders of just how fucking far society has come with equality in the past century sort of topples that house of cards.

[–]jjhova36 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

By the same litmus they would need to ban most classic rock, gangsta rap, 80’s metal and at least a third of old country. Which is probably their ultimate goal anyway...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Outside of shitty Glam Metal, 80's metal is safe.

It is almost completely not about trying to get laid at all.

Source: Metal head who turn 50 next week.

[–]thefilthyhermit 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's because it's totally about Satan. /s

[–]Ragnrok 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen people insisting that Angel of Death is pro-Nazi. Nothing is safe.

[–]jjhova36 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I respect your point. I guess my overarching premise is that it is wrong to judge the art of yesterday by today’s moral standards.

[–]TheAndredal[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

morality is subjective, you proved my point mate

[–]jjhova36 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As was my goal.

[–]hauntedskin 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I knew this was about Baby It's Cold Outside before I even clicked the link.

Good video on this topic (IMO): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2X1hXuvQHA

[–]raffu280 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems pretty soon that everything will somehow be connected to "Men" - and then tarnished.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I heard that the song wasn't about rape, but everytime I hear that song I feel really fucking uncomfortable

[–]TheAndredal[S] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

it's about the courtship between men and women. It's not a rape song

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Oof idk that song can be taken all types of ways

[–]TheAndredal[S] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

no it can't, it's suppose to be flirting

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It's not very good flirting.

[–]Ragnrok 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's an 80 year old song. Do you think it's possible that courting (and dating in general) might have changed slightly since World War 2?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just, cuz the song is from the 1930s, doesn't mean that in today's society... the lyrics have rapey vibe to them. Why are y'all even arguing with me about this? Like for guys who claim to understand consent... defending this song makes no sense, because it's kinda fucked up.

[–]Ragnrok 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's nothing rapey about it. That's just how flirting was back then. Women were just as horny as they are today, but significantly more averse to that face getting out. So they'd play coy for a while letting the man "wear them down", even though they knew what they wanted from the start.

[–]TheAndredal[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

according to you

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Try that shit on a girl and see if you get accused of sexual harassment

[–]sage-in-my-sausage 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's horrible flirting. "I've really got to go" "But it's cold outside, so stay here and have a few more drinks"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I knew I wasn't crazy

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oof idk that song can be taken all types of ways

[–]B3C745D9 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go to YouTube and watch the source, it has 2 couples, gender swapped with the horny one, and at the end everyone agrees it's too fucking cold.

[–]nastybitch1221 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's a fucking creepy song ESPECIALLY when she says what's in this drink.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly and I've heard the song sung with the sexes switched and it's still unsettling

[–]nastybitch1221 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Regardless of the gender roles in the song it's just not right.

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