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Female babysitter video taped throwing and shoving a 9 year old autistic girl. Judge lessens charge from child abuse to assault

ScarletJew72

April 15, 2011

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http://www.wboc.com/story/14447451/kufchak-trial

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Title	Female babysitter video taped throwing and shoving a 9 year old autistic girl. Judge lessens charge from child abuse to assault
Author	ScarletJew72
Upvotes	77
Comments	30
Date	April 15, 2011 5:05 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gqvb2/female_babysitter_video_taped_throwing_and/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/female-babysitter-video-taped-throwing-and-shoving.1040925 https://theredarchive.com/post/1040925

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And I agree that a link showing that or article highlighting the overall trend would be a Men's Rights issue, but an individual incident, where the law was written to be the same, and will effectively have no impact on Men's Rights a whole does not qualify.

It's not being reported as, "Look at this discrepancy between how the law is applied to the genders". Its instead "Here is an incident that happened", which makes no reference to gender rights/equality.

Furthermore this case is not as clear cut as a woman getting leniency where a man was not. Recording laws are pretty strict on how they are applied. I would not be surprised if the charge was downgraded not because of her gender, but so that they would be allowed to admit the video portion of the recording as evidence, since they had thrown out the audio. The defense probably knew they were on the losing side, so they could have either been a pain and tried to get it all throw out, or play along and let the prosecution have an easier time in exchange for a reduced sentence. (At least if I was a lawyer that how I would have seen it (Barring other facts))

[–]missmymom 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And I agree that a link showing that or article highlighting the overall trend would be a Men's Rights issue, but an individual incident, where the law was written to be the same, and will effectively have no impact on Men's Rights a whole does not qualify.

I think your confusing something, I never said the laws are different, only that discrimination is present even when they are not supported by law. This isn't a new thing. It's discrimination no matter how it happens. The individual events is what starts to make a trend appear. How is this different then say this that was shown a feminist subreddit? There have been several links showing that when a female and a male have both found guilty of something the female ends up having a lessor sentence. This is backed up by actual "sentencing" standards put out by the justice department (I believe by the UK). How is this not not have an impact on MensRights?

It's not being reported as, "Look at this discrepancy between how the law is applied to the genders". Its instead "Here is an incident that happened", which makes no reference to gender rights/equality.

It doesn't need to reference gender rights/equality to have an impact. It's like saying that the Rodney King beating was just a black man being beaten. There's more to it regardless of what the story that was reported.

Furthermore this case is not as clear cut as a woman getting leniency where a man was not.

I'm open to you proving this.

Recording laws are pretty strict on how they are applied. I would not be surprised if the charge was downgraded not because of her gender, but so that they would be allowed to admit the video portion of the recording as evidence, since they had thrown out the audio.

Supply this logic and I'll be sure to take it into note if it ever comes up in a discussion, but that's like saying that the police brutality should not be discussed because the taping of it was illegal. It's still an important and should be discussed.

This doesn't change the overall facts of the matter, if you watch this subreddit you will see many occurrences of women getting off to a lessor extent in ways that men would not. I'm okay with you saying "no it shouldn't because of in the case X, Y or Z happened", however to dismiss the entire implication of the events by saying "Not relevant to MensRights" shows a lack of understanding of the many different forms discrimination can be.

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