Hello everyone,

After finding this sub from a thread on the front page I've been reading stuff from the side bar and past threads. I find some of the ideas interesting but I am hung up by statistics and research that doesn't really align with the conclusions made here. I'm wondering how RedPill addresses them. Namely:

  1. It seems like a lot of the discussion revolves around "hypergamy" and a women's propensity to cheat. What about statistics that show that most women (and men) don't cheat in marriage (and in most of their relationships), and that men are estimated to cheat more often? Stats can be found here and here and even on the Wikipedia page on infidelity. I've also heard stats that estimate that women are much more likely than men to commit EMOTIONAL rather than PHYSICAL infidelity, although I can't find them at the moment. This wouldn't make sense in the context of hypergamy.

  2. Somebody in another thread criticizing RedPill brought up John Gottman's research, and I found that very interesting. He's managed to predict divorce at a very high rate using his model, and some of the factors that lead to divorce seem contradictory to the strategies that RedPiller's stand by. Info on his research can be found here and here and, of course, on his Wikipedia page.

A finding from the first link that seems to fly in the face of RedPill ideas:

The happiest, most stable marriages are those in which the husband treats his wife with respect and does not resist power sharing and decision making with her. When the couple disagrees, these husbands actively search for common ground rather than insisting on getting their way. It’s just as important for wives to treat their husbands with honor and respect. But our data indicate that the vast majority of wives—even in unstable marriages—already do that. Too often men do not return the favor.

So why should I follow RedPill advice versus well-respected empirical research? Why should I care about the concept of "hypergamy" if the stats indicate that it's not really a thing? So far I've found RedPill calling on evolutionary psychology and anecdotes to support conclusions. Is there anything else?