Another tale of r/askwomen. When post-walls are asked about how their tastes in men have changed, the top answers find a million ways to say "beta" without saying "beta".

redpillbanana · 2014-01-28T02:23:01+00:00

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The_CEO_of_Beta · 2014-01-27T22:41:22+00:00

After she left me, my sister and mother kept trying to tell me, "there's nothing wrong with being a nice guy, trust us, we raised you right. The problem wasn't you, the problem was her. They just haven't learned to appreciate nice guys yet, so what you should do is date older women who are 30+ years old."

I said in the back of my mind, "Gee, thanks, thanks for raising me to be lonely the entirety of my teens and 20s. Now that I've worked so fucking hard on trying to being the perfect nice guy, I'm finally allowed to date women who no one else wants to date. Excellent."

Them "revealing" that shit to me was a stab in the chest. It's the equivalent of them saying, "our extremely ineffective techniques to getting a girl to like you works after all, you just had to go after old women." and saying, "our extremely shitty kungfu maneuvers really worked after all, see? You just gotta fight only little kids that can't fight back."

redpill_ta · 2014-01-27T22:20:18+00:00

Maybe not post-wall but it's funny how every single story is the same:

When i was in my teens and early 20s I wanted top alpha, now that I'm in my mid 20s and can feel the wall approaching I would love a beta provider, provided he still has a little alpha sprinkled on top.

big_dick_tom · 2014-01-28T03:51:22+00:00

Women laughed at me when I was in high school. I was awkward and had acne. They largely ignored me in college, with a few exceptions. I'm a 24 year old virgin now. The idea of anyone liking me now, because I have an engineering degree and a good occupation, is truly nauseating. I can't stand it. Honestly, I'd much rather be alone.

I caught some girl eyeballing me in the store yesterday; she smiled and looked away when we locked eyes. Some guys would probably try to start a conversation. I'm reminded of the time I was given a fake phone number, or the girl who said she couldn't date me because of my skin. It's so off-putting, it makes me want to gag. Women were treating me like scum while choking down Tyrone's dick just a few years ago; now I'm expected (by family and friends) to welcome them into my life with open arms. In fact, I'm expected to work to get their approval.

Maybe I have a testosterone deficiency, but I don't crave sex enough to make that kind of pardon. I'd rather blow my kneecap out with a hammer.

PlusGoody · 2014-01-28T01:17:30+00:00

I don't know. They are describing attraction, not willingness to settle. And it's pretty consistent: they are attracted to status. What looks high status to a teenager isn't what looks high status to a 27 year old. A smart chubby arrogant dude has no status when he's a 17-year-old debate captain or first chair trombone in the concert band but when he's 27 and has a Harvard MBA all of a sudden that arrogance is beguiling and his gut is a manly affectation.

needsomehelp3211 · 2014-01-27T21:35:24+00:00

I'm 25 and I think the biggest change is I am looking for more stability. Are they responsible with their money? Do they have goals in life?

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But once I turned 24 (I swear, like, right on my birthday), suddenly I wanted men. Tall, broader-shouldered, scruffy, older. Holding down "real" jobs.

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Now the first thing I look for is emotional stability, kindness and intelligence, as well as someone who is ambitious and will push me to follow my own aspirations. I am drawn to much quieter, more thoughtful people, both in friendships and romantic relationships.

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Smarts is always sexy. But I've broadened my understanding of "smarts."

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Now I am 25, jaded and realize that the music industry is crap. I have a stable industry job, but hate going to small shows with all of the snakes and sharks that are on the prowl. Tried online dating and found myself a nice lawyer who is stable, clean cut and trustworthy, and we are both growing into our adult lives nicely together.

2014-01-28T06:27:08+00:00

Sounds like the guys most of them explain they want in their mid 20s are true alphas.. Not beta providers. The guys they talk about when they're younger sound beta as fuck. Soft boyish scrawny boys. With the exception of the tattooists and guys in bands.

The guys they want later in life are big, strong, dominant, ability to lead and provide etc.. Common true masculine traits.

heist_of_saint_graft · 2014-01-28T08:06:31+00:00

It was moving on from James Deen to Manuel Ferrara.

That girl's a real catch. Both are porn stars.

johnnight · 2014-01-28T09:55:42+00:00

Well, I'm almost 25. And compared to when I was a bit younger, I've noticed a sharp U-turn in the appearance that I find most attractive.

Even still at 22-23, I was going for more "boyish" men. More slight in stature, clean-shaven face, minimal body hair. Cute. Nearly always a year or two younger than me.

But once I turned 24 (I swear, like, right on my birthday), suddenly I wanted men. Tall, broader-shouldered, scruffy, older. Holding down "real" jobs.

I'm still not entirely sure why this happened, and so suddenly.

So for those of us that don't wanna google male porn stars, you went from Joseph Gordon Levitt to Hugh Jackman?

Oh, no no no. Joseph Gordon-Levitt will always have a place in my ~~pants~~ heart. Maybe a better comparison would be ... Elijah Wood to Hugh Jackman?

This one is really simple to explain. Teenage girls go for the esthetic, face feature prettiness. Pretty boy without the muscles. Frodo, Legolas.

Once they mature and their brains are flushed with a high dose of hormones, they go for the hairy muscular man beast. Wolverine, Patrik Baboumian.

This is the part where the girl cheats on her pretty boyfriend when she meets some older construction worker and everybody is baffled why. I guess this could also explain why Miranda Kerr left pretty face Orlando Bloom for that billionaire ugly guy. (That and the money.)

Their attraction cues are fluid with time.

Edit: This is highly important. If you are the bf, who gets dumped once she turns 24, you will be devastated and you will ask yourself what is wrong with you. There is nothing wrong with you. It's her brain that got flushed with psychedelics and changed her attraction cues.

da-way · 2014-01-28T07:45:55+00:00

OP, please add flair. It helps with framing your submission and helps with signal/noise ratio.

Thank you

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