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Carol complains about Chad's behavior, but gets exposed for choosing Chad for sex and friendzoning the NiceGuy™. (forums.red x-post)

Typo-MAGAshiv

February 16, 2021
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Title Carol complains about Chad's behavior, but gets exposed for choosing Chad for sex and friendzoning the NiceGuy™. (forums.red x-post)
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Typo-MAGAshiv

Upvotes 147
Comments 55
Date February 16, 2021 6:31 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/lla92x/carol_complains_about_chads_behavior_but_gets/
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[–][deleted] 91 points92 points93 points 5 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link

This behavior right here is why men are all insisting on sex right now.

Because we're seeing now, in real time, how women differentiate between men. There's men they fuck right now; and there's men they make wait until those men put commitment on the barrelhead.

We have long been at the point that the only way you can know if a woman is attracted to you is that she has sex with you very, very soon. There are no other reliable markers. Contact doesn't work. talking and texting doesn't work. Interaction doesn't work. Agreement to go on a date doesn't work. A date going well with good conversation doesn't work. Even IOIs don't work.

No. The only thing that indicates attraction is that clothes come off and some form of sexual activity is had, and it is done with next to no investment outlay - for the cost of some drinks and maybe a meal, and a few hours investment. If you're not getting sexual response within the first 3 in person interactions, she is not into you and you need to cut her loose pronto.

That, really, is the lesson here.

[–]thedukeinc 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If I don’t have sex with a woman by the third meetup I am moving. I just ignore her because I know for sure she is having sex with someone

[–]MelkorHimselfWAATGM Endorsed 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If I don’t have sex with a woman by the third meetup I am moving.

This was one of Tom Leykis' rules. At first I thought it was a bit hasty, but after gaining more experience and reflecting on past courtships, a three date limit isn't a bad idea.

[–]thedukeinc 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes exactly. When I started trying dating initially my mindset was “I should get to know her. I should respect her etc etc”.. while I still hold same values, I realized if the lady is not sleeping with me by 3rd or 4th date, she is just not into me. No amount of the effort I put, is going to change her mind.

[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Plus not enforcing a timeline for demonstrating interest teaches women that they can get away with using men for meals/drinks/attention/entertainment without reciprocating in kind.

Most women wont admit it due to conflict of interest, but deep down they know at the time they agreed to a date with a man whether or not they'd be willing to ever fuck him.

[–]thedukeinc 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Especially the ones that say “they like good food” as if it is their personality, when it actually implies they love free food and drinks if they can get away with it.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Would you please sticky that?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

done

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks 😁

[–]sthlmtrdr 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Yep. I changed my dating strategy because of this. Now it's purely hookups at my place or her place. Usually no dates out on town and no upfront investment. I may entertain her with take out pizza/tacos or home cooked food and a bottle of cheap wine/beer's at my or her place.

[+][deleted] -12 points-11 points-10 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not bad, but come on. Buy the girl a drink. It's $10.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

my track record of buying girls drinks was 0-13. I realized buying girls drinks got me nowhere.

[–]upsidedownbackwardsI like a nithe rathberry thpritzther[🍰] 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I used to drive my sister in law and her friends out for "girls nights". I don't drink anymore so I'd volunteer to drive them around town and babysit them. They'd get drunk and start buying all sorts of bar food that they would barely touch and I'd get the rest. It was a good time.

Looking back on it though I feel bad that for all the guys they took advantage of with me as their DD. They'd leave their wedding rings home so they'd get more guys to buy them drinks.

I'm sure some of those women you bought drinks for weren't even on the market. But they didn't even hesitate to let you spend your money on them.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why WAATGM is needed. Men can learn from other men's stories of getting fucked over.

Here is another. A friend of mine fell on hard times, so the only job he could get was as a stock boy at a supermarket. No one wanted to work Saturday night, for that was the best night to party. The manager of the store allowed 1 stock boy on a Saturday night to leave early at 9 PM so he could get ready to go out later that night.

One man's GF would go to the bar at 8:30 PM and sit alone next to the mirror of the bar. Men seeing she was all alone would hit on her. The guy would buy her a drink, then all of a sudden she lost interest in him and started looking around. He would realize he was taken advantage of and left. She would take the drink and shove it up against the mirror. By the time the BF showed up at 10 PM, there would be 7-8 drinks shoved up against the mirror. The 2 of them would then drink the drinks the other men had purchased for the girl. Yes you read it right.

[–]sthlmtrdr -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I'll agree, maybe one drink is fine if the girl is worth it

[–]lorum_ipsum_dolorJr. Hamster Analyst 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Years ago I was in grabbing a slice of pizza and there was a High School age Chad talking with a friend of his nearby. I'll never forget what he said. He told his friend, "If you like a girl walk up to her and say, 'Hey babe, you wanna make out?'. If she's down, she's down, if she's not, then walk away."

Little Romeo was totally RP'd.

[–]happychickenpalaceJr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is why courtship is also traditionally very brief. Parents introduce their sons and daughters to one another. Son tells Dad "Hey, I wanna marry that girl (I wanna fuck her)", daughter tells her dad the same thing, after a brief meeting. Then marriage is arranged, and consummated after that.

I am from a traditional Asian family and I remember fondly my grandparents telling me there is no such thing as engagement. You like, you marry. Full stop.

Nowadays in lol-tradcon relationships guys have to wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait....did I say wait? 3 dates and get a kiss, 6 dates and get a makeout, 9 days and get a girlfriend material, 12 to 15 dates, no wait, a full year later then they get married.

The whole time the lady ironically follows the actual courtship ritual with Chads, just without a formal marriage ceremony and without Dad's approval. Talk with chad for a bit, lady thinks "Hey I wanna fuck him (without necessarily marrying him)", and they fuck.

Whaddayaknow, those James Bond movies are more realistic than you think. When a bodybuilder guy with a charming gentleman Scottish+British accent approaches ladies, of course the ladies decide they're gonna fuck him within a few minutes.

[–]Run2daend93 94 points95 points96 points 5 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

Lol. When you learn this truth, life really is different. 9/10 these chads are dudes they perceive as handsome, they’ll bend over backwards for. Break rules, rush relationships.

Abundance mindset fellas. In my opinion only deal with women who perceive you as their “chad”.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] 39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

In my opinion only deal with women who perceive you as their “chad”.

Agreed. Back when I was dabbling in PUA and hitting my stride, if I didn't receive strong IOIs I wouldn't bother.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right. Strong IOIs immediately, at first interactions and meets.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] 25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Strong IOIs immediately

Yeah, that's an important addition. If she was cold and indifferent at first, then suddenly starts giving IOIs after learning your career?

NEXT! That gold digger.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

​

what is IOI?

[–]lawlscape 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Indicators of interest, just speculating

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That's correct.

Big ones: sustained eye contact + smile, kino/touching, preening when she catches you looking her way...

CC: /u/mustangfrank

[–]ThaiEscapePlan 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Hair twirling while looking at you, biting her lip (I suppose they get that from movies), touching your arm or, the kill shot, grabbing your ass.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I once had a girl grab my ass in a club, not a little bit either, she really went for it. I turned around and saw that she was hot, so of course I was like ''wow, my lucky night, awsome''.

She was having none of it, and I was way more persistent than usual, I wandering back to my friends with this dumbass look on my face like ''what the fuck just happened? Is this real life?''

As the stickied comment said, IOIs don't actually mean shit until they lead to actual fucking. Did you actually blast ropes inside her? If the answer is no you have no idea if she actually liked you or not.

[–]BluepillProfessorMRP Mod 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It.is.empowering to.women to taunt.men and then run away laughing.. It gives them danger and tingles and the feeling of punishing a random.man for the patriarchy.

[–]lorum_ipsum_dolorJr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I once had a girl grab my ass in a club

Chicks in clubs do really nutty things. I've had girls run up to me, grind for a few seconds and then run away giggling. If I ran into them later they'd get that deer in the headlights look and run away like a frightened animal. Most of the time I think they're doing things on a dare from their friends and have no intention of following through on anything.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

squares up her body to you and faces you, exposing clothed torso. Stands up a little straighter which pushes her chest out - to show you her body and to indicate comfort with you

Lightly stroking neck to above cleavage - to draw your attention to that area of her body and to expose it to you

[–]Pimp87Pumped up for the Pussy Carnival 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That last statement is where the money is. Also to add, some won’t perceive you as alpha and play that “lets get to know each other crap game” while banging a total stranger first 2 hrs of meeting. And when you move on ASAP, they fake attraction to lure you back into the friendzone. Don’t give second chances, it’s never worth it. Second chances lead to second thoughts that lead to regret if you eventually sleep together which leads to fake al... you already know where this is going. Stay sharp guys. It’s weird out here. Only the truth shall set you free

[–]ThaiEscapePlan 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Had that happen.. (and no chad, here). Met, got her to my place "You have protection, right?" throw it on the bed beside her, climb on top of her for a bit of foreplay and she pulls me in raw.

[–]LordFlakkko 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How tall are you?

[–]ThaiEscapePlan 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

5 10. If I try really, really hard.

[–]happychickenpalaceJr. Hamster Analyst 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And you need to know how to tell when a woman perceives you as a Chad:

She tells you what she feels when being with you rather then describes what you are "I always feel warm when I'm by your side.", "Oh gosh you make me so giddy and excited even when I feel miserable!"

She does NOT care about your money or your job.

She delights in holding and fondling you.

She maintains strong eye contact when talking to you.

She does not play with her phone when with you.

She doesn't mind going dutch with you.

She buys you gifts and cooks food for you.

[–]Run2daend93 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

EXACTLY. That’s important as well. Most men with sense and who’s experienced like me and you will Be able to tell, okay, this woman sees me as her version of chad. You and I both know when a woman sees as her version of chad, you can extract almost anything from her.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She tells you what she feels when being with you rather then describes what you are "I always feel warm when I'm by your side.", "Oh gosh you make me so giddy and excited even when I feel miserable!"

She does NOT care about your money or your job.

She delights in holding and fondling you.

She maintains strong eye contact when talking to you.

She does not play with her phone when with you.

She doesn't mind going dutch with you.

She buys you gifts and cooks food for you.

This is what a wife should be doing

[–]happychickenpalaceJr. Hamster Analyst 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They act like wives to BFF chads, but not to their husbands. Clown world dating.

[–]awwwumad 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

no perceiving as chad either you are or you aren't and all women recognize it

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Strongly disagree.

I've been rejected by 5s. I've had 9s beg me for some dick.

I was the same man in every scenario, at least physically.

The only change was ZFG.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right again.

It's all about where she is in her life at that time.

[–]mustangfrankCopy-paste Commando 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

ZFG?

[–]otterlyclueless7 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Zero fucks given

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

👍🏻

[–]etherith 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Zero Fucks Given

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

👍🏻

[–]ShadowHeart5 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a resident Tyrone I think 5s are harder because more is at stake for them. They are more apt to want you to PROVE yourself to them, where as 9s there are less games and we both know what it is. Just my thoughts.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [S] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

YMMV. my experiences with all this are from 2001-2004, a different era.

[–]ShadowHeart5 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

YMMV

Ah I see.

[–]Run2daend93 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand your POV, but I respectfully disagree. I personally think if you are grinding, you’re decent looking and your trying to be the best version of yourself as a man, some women will view you as a chad, or what they perceive as a chad. Not everyone will view you as a chad. Those 5 women in the corner might see you as a chad, but the next 4 on the other side of the room might just see you as cute or good looking, but you just don’t make their box tick. It’s all about perception.

[–]SvartanattenJr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm no Chad in Sweden where the average guy is 180+ and spends most days at the gym, it's all superficial asf. Half my colleagues were on steroids, defined abs are kinda entrance lvl here.

[–]Tikikala 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Steroids? Sarms? Tren? Idk?

[–]SvartanattenJr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm no expert nor do I ask. I don't rly care as it doesn't hurt me. I'm a classic liberal and don't believe in moral laws.

[–]Pimp87Pumped up for the Pussy Carnival 32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys need to know this. Works like charm. The traditional man doesn’t get affection. Simple as... don’t listen to the bs anyone else tells you

[–]NickTesla2018Built his own hamster wheel 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But... but... the tingles! You bastards. Oppression!

[–]SafeBendyStraw 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

super hot chick just had to lock down a high value male and her life is set but chooses to ride the carousel? can't wait for the leftovers post on her.

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