Bar opener...any comments?

kdelamont · 2012-01-09T04:40:06+00:00

I will be honest and say that your rhetoric got me a little lost. If you could maybe boil that down to an opener, then I'd say it'd be a decent one.

IIMsmartII · 2012-01-09T05:37:36+00:00

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sventheviking · 2012-01-09T13:39:05+00:00

It's a means to an end, but tipping is sort of a superfluous subject. Why not use something like trending men's fashions (i.e. ask their opinion on Justin Bieber hairstyles, ask them how your wingman would look in one, etc).

They'll show a little more personality with a question on men's fashion than asking about tipping etiquette. It's a quick way to judge how open they are, and how pretentious they are. Plus, if they say something like "omfg I LOVE JUSTIN BIEBER!!1!" you'll know to gtfo right then and there.

bcktth · 2012-01-09T16:39:45+00:00

Try everything at least 10 times in field to get the answer you're looking for. There is no way for any of us to say "Yes, solid!" or "No, terrible!".

If anything I would trim it down and avoid using the "I need a female's perspective on a debate..." because by this point in the seduction world it's over-used and stale. Instead I suggest saying "You seem friendly enough, settle a argument for me..." or something like that.

frogma · 2012-01-09T17:05:43+00:00

The real answer is that you should tip a little for every other drink if they don't notice you or you aren't more of a regular. If they know you and shit, leave a nice chunk of cash at the end. The whole point of tipping in most situations is so you can get better service (and/or because you're a good person). At a really packed place, I won't tip at all because I know they won't notice or care (I've been spurned too many times).

It can definitely make for a decent conversation, but it's not great. I've had the same conversation a lot, and usually people just tell you to do whatever you want. It's usually a helpful guy who will take the time to break it down for you, and most other people won't give a shit (IME).

If you're gonna go with the topic of tipping, restaurant tipping is far more controversial and it's something nobody really agrees on. Even better is something like tipping a plumber or the guys at nice hotels who bring up your bags.

Like I said though, I've opened with this a lot, but I've never really thought of it as an "opener." You should go around talking to multiple people throughout the night, use this a few times just to see what happens, and use other openers other times. Just be talkative in general and you'll have more success.

BetaMail · 2012-01-10T02:36:18+00:00

This is just an opinion opener..?

There are a tonne of more interesting opinion openers with subtle sexual undertones or which can be led into far more interesting conversation.

"Do you think exes can be friends?" "Where's the hottest place to have sex?" "How much sex is healthy in a relationship?"

osufan765 · 2012-01-09T04:46:37+00:00

Sure. you're approaching, which is most of the battle.

the topic isn't engaging though and leaves you no conversation avenues to travel down. women don't like talking about tipping (as someone in the industry, they're not very good at it either.)

Title	Bar opener...any comments?
Author	IIMsmartII
Upvotes	4
Comments	9
Date	January 9, 2012 4:14 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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