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LIES MEN TELLAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/21 06:36 AM
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DISCUSSIONAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 06:35 AM
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PICKMEISHA HALL OF SHAMEAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/21 11:45 PM
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DISCUSSIONAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/05/21 07:35 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 04:56 AM
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RANTAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/21 06:29 AM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:56 PM
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PICKMEISHA HALL OF SHAMEAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 01:38 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 01:09 AM
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STRATEGYAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/04/20 08:56 AM
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RANTAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/07/20 11:29 PM
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NAH, SISAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/07/20 01:18 AM
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QUEEN SH*TAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/05/20 04:39 AM
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DUMP HIS ASSAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/04/20 01:03 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:05 PM
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DISCUSSIONAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/05/20 01:17 AM
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AnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 06:56 AM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:39 AM
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MALE DEPRAVITYAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 02:59 PM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:25 PM
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CULTURAL MISOGYNYAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/08/20 05:19 AM
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REMINDER 👑AnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/07/20 12:57 AM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:28 PM
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NAH, SISAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/05/21 07:54 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:24 PM
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STRATEGYAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/05/20 01:28 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:03 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:17 AM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:45 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:14 AM
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LESSON LEARNEDAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/20 04:56 PM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:35 PM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:49 PM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:40 PM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:12 AM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:42 PM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 09:16 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:19 AM
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Question for RedPillAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:04 PM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:10 PM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:52 AM
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SEEKING ADVICEAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 11:42 AM
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AnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:53 AM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:55 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:23 PM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:59 AM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:55 PM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:10 AM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:48 AM
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AnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 08:38 AM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:51 AM
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QUEEN SH*TAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/06/20 05:31 AM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:06 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:21 PM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:11 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:54 PM
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MALE DEPRAVITYAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/07/20 01:00 AM
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Question for RedPillAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:55 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:19 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 11:26 PM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:24 AM
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THE AUDACITY OF SCROTESAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 12:50 AM
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ROAST-A-SCROTEAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 11:49 PM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:16 AM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 01:42 AM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:15 AM
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MOOD FOR LIFEAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/20 12:52 PM
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MALE DEPRAVITYAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/20 12:37 AM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:38 PM
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AnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:57 AM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:48 AM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:48 AM
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AnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:07 PM
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Question for RedPillAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:02 AM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:54 PM
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AnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:37 PM
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Question for RedPillAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:50 PM
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REDDIT HATES WOMENAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 06:26 PM
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ROAST-A-SCROTEAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 11:47 PM
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REDDIT HATES WOMENAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/20 06:18 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 05:18 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:21 PM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:41 PM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 10:50 PM
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AnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:01 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 12:14 PM
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DebateAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:35 AM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 01:13 AM
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DiscussionAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:10 AM
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Question For MenAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:30 PM
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LIES MEN TELLAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 02:17 AM
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SCROTES MADAnonPinkLady/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 09:27 AM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:03 PM
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CMVAnonPinkLady/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:53 AM
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answer the question :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:17 AM
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Or a child… also mods exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:06 AM
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If the company doesn’t make games you like don’t play them? I don’t see the problem really. Also the amount of women complaining has not outweighed the amount of people willing to play them regardless- the companies are the ones explicitly choosing to make games more E rated to ensure they gain a wider audience. Capitalism is always going to be about whatever profits most- ethics or morals be damned. Stop blaming a few outspoken prudes for choices ceos are making (the majority being men no less)…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:05 AM
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They’re never going to cease to exist unless pornography and sexuality as a whole are completely illegalized. Sex and art are inextricable and even if this set back the production of sexy booby games from major productions there are literally an unimaginable of sexually charged video games to play already released. We aren’t about to turn into 1984 because the latest edition of your favorite shooter doesn’t make you hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:02 AM
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I appreciate that!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:28 AM
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Well slow down- so you think racism and SA are funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:09 AM
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How much of that is just cultural though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:40 AM
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Honestly I’d say I’m a pretty fun person and have a goofy sense of humor and most women I know are. None of us make jokes about race or each others bodies, or SA- and I find that to be most people reasonable limits and boundaries on humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:39 AM
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No reason why you can’t find evidence of that happening in the US. Claims require evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:10 AM
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And you can just play a different game WITH boobies, I don’t see the problem? If the company decides to make a game that is less sexualized, go play another one?? I don’t understand what makes one wrong and the other right? It’s a free market for games yeah? Don’t play it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:58 PM
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Is that happening? Can you find evidence that is the case? I mean we’ve been talking back and forth and I haven’t sued you yet? If it were so easy for men to persecuted with no effort from women, why are there so few real statistics to prove that happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:55 PM
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If what you’re doing is so problematic that some has grounds to sue you and win and your only saving grace is that people of your same gender don’t have the integrity to hold you accountable… I don’t see why that’s something to protect…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:52 PM
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Okay sure let’s talk about Call of Duty since you named it as one of these naturally masculine hobbies. What about testerone makes it a naturally male hobby? It’s not real violence- it’s virtual, simulated warfare- so no physical limitations should really matter. And research suggests women actually have great hand eye coordination and excel in certain military positions including being fighter pilots. Women have higher pain tolerance, are less likely to faint from blood loss and are currently o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:03 PM
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But what if they didn’t though? They don’t have to, and perhaps if such a thing was as ordinary as it is to have female coworkers or a woman as your neighbor it wouldn’t be as big of a deal right? Or passing a woman in the grocery store?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:02 PM
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That’s crazy how did find and authenticate these?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:59 PM
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Sick! What’s the history behind it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:53 PM
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I haven’t experienced that actually but it’s been a while since I attended a drawing class actually. What was the nature of the material that made these women uncomfortable and did it occur with one particular class or was it a repeat problem? Did they tell you that you were not welcome in the class or what exactly was said?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:53 PM
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What makes a hobby naturally for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:51 PM
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Let’s say they didn’t- and let’s say if they did, she ignored them because she was just there to enjoy the hobby as well. Would that change your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:43 PM
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Sounds neat! Can you tell us your favorite one that comes to mind and what the history is behind it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:42 PM
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Can you elaborate on that? Like an example of women gate keeping young boys from enjoying a hobby? I haven’t heard of that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:41 PM
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Go you! I read and write a fair bit myself and it absolutely should be for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:04 PM
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Some users feel women consuming a hobby means that the industry leaders of that hobby may diversify its products to appeal less to men in particular- and some people have complained that their hobbies have become less masculine by the inclusion of women in them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:04 PM
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Women do play a role in the making of comics and video games actually! Perhaps not as a majority of the individuals working on the staff but their skill set is involved. I will say I too also enjoy a game with some jiggle physics and showy outfits on the ladies etc as a woman- but there are still plenty of games with that right? Also the question isn’t so much about the creators of the games you enjoy as the consumers- so would you be bothered if more women played marvel rivals let’s say- and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:03 PM
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Mmm no you read that wrong- we’ve talked about it at length including that I wanted to be the one to propose. Nice try lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:37 PM
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Okay… still doesn’t answer my question of how you define gender roles and what yours are…..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:25 PM
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Again this post specifically in the circumstance that otherwise you are ready to get married and you do consider this person a great potential spouse. Idk how entitled it is to want conversations to stay on topic for the purposes of the post and I do not understand why you cannot simply honestly stay with the subject. Who said anyone owed me anything? How is a woman proposing entitled but a man not? Why is one something being owed and the other one note? Again why is it suddenly entitled when a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:23 AM
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I am the OP. Are you… sober? Also so you’re saying that everyone around you needs to conform to the gender roles you decide are accurate in your head? So how’s that working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:27 AM
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No I can’t because it hugely depends on a person beliefs, and ethnic origin, and family circumstance. In a certain tribe in Africa women are considered most feminine and beautiful if they have extra long nexts, so the women where rings around their necks that extend them for example. Gender roles are not universal. Even people in the same town attending the same church will have differing opinions on gender roles and expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:56 AM
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I’m not springing a proposal. We’ve talked about at length… are you sure you’re actually reading what I’m writing, I’ve explicitly wrote that the engagement is planned. How is that not clicking?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:39 AM
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Okay but in the post I specified that this would otherwise be the right time and right person and that you’ve spoken about it before so explain to me how that impatient and what about being a woman makes it that way? How does having XX chromosomes makes the exact thing you would do impatient ? Aside from that what an odd thing to dislike. “She wanted to spend the rest of her life with me too badly”? Like this is wifey otherwise material and that’s… a bad thing??? So you don’t want to be wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:36 AM
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Aw wholesome
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:14 PM
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There just isn’t much support that the majority of gender roles have anything to do with biology. Breathing however does have to do with your anatomy and nature. Try. Think it through. This is not an innate thing- it’s societal and we have ample evidence of it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:13 PM
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Such women? Okay tell me about that, what did they all have in common and why does that make you so certain any woman willing to go above and beyond for a men will “nag” them. Also define “nag” , what were these conversations you call nagging if you can recall?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:12 PM
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Why though, why would that be so wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:09 PM
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Okay straightforward I appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:09 PM
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Would it not be equally desperate for a guy to do that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:43 PM
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How sweet! Thank you for sharing- I hope it happens for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:42 PM
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Yeah it does speak of enormous admiration and love
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:41 PM
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Can you elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:41 PM
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What makes something manly or feminine and why is it important to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:41 PM
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I mean people on social media can be pretty annoying for sure- but I’d argue they are just bitter and jealous for being so bothered by your happiness and it’s still nothing to be ashamed of
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:39 PM
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Ah I’m sorry I misread that last bit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:37 PM
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So you don’t want the woman you’re with to openly love you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:49 PM
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Why do you feel that traditional gender roles suit you as they do? Are there aspects that you personally like? Were raised that way or did you discover it individually? Are their cultural or religious influences? If it’s personal why do you feel the gender binary is important? Do you feel it’s still effective or achievable in today’s economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:48 PM
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How so? Just trying to keep discourse relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:16 PM
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Okay sure. But why is being romanced by a woman such a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:15 PM
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In the post it’s explicitly clear that the marriage is something you’ve discussed and planned together. Why is it impatient for her to propose and not you if you’ve both agreed you want that in the future? Why is adherence to gender roles so important to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:13 PM
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Please read the post before commenting then- it’s explicitly noted that the proposal would be known and marriage as a planned mile stone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:12 PM
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What makes something your place and why? Why is it emasculating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:11 PM
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Theyre great friends but would think poorly of your relationship purely because a woman performed a romantic gesture towards you? What if you informed them that you planned and talked about this and wanted this beforehand? Then they’d have no reason to assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:10 PM
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“Performative inversion of gender roles” what makes you think it would be Performative?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:08 PM
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Why? Men online complain heavily about not receiving enough attention or praise from women, of wanting to be romanced and chased- aren’t those also actions of taking the initiative?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:08 PM
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What if she didn’t nag, just quietly planned it after your discussion? Why do you think she’d nag about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:06 PM
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Okay so let’s assume it isn’t a grand spectacle, let’s assume it’s a proposal in a quiet private way, a small but romantic circumstance. Like she cooks you your favorite meal and dress absolutely gorgeous, and makes you fancy drinks of your choosing in a nice glass and then quietly holds out a velvet engagement box with a lovely ring. A private, intimate romantic date between the two of you. Would you still feel negatively towards it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:36 PM
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What you’re talking about ideologies- wide spread beliefs so overwhelmingly common and accepted that they are treated as innate qualities in humans. But while we are so far as anthropologists know of, tribal and live in social packs evolutionarily, there has always always been a decent number of people in every social formation that do not conform- often for the betterment of humanity as a whole. It is the determination to not follow but lead that has created some of our greatest inventors and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:15 PM
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That’s so cute awww
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:09 PM
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Right, I’m just trying to understand the difference. Why cultivate such a negative and restrictive social environment where being doted on and loved is something to be ashamed of if it comes from a woman? And how do you think this might influence the commonly talked about issue of women being hesitant to perform gestures of romantic love in same vein men often feel expected to? It sounds like a lot of men genuinely want a grand gesture of love, so why do the optics matter to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:02 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:03 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:03 AM
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We are though. We pay the same amount equally for rent, and both work and support one another. I know a lot people that do the same. I find relationships that are not 50/50 quite rare in this economy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:02 AM
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You’re suggesting that social expectations and cultural beliefs are as natural and innate as hunger or lust but they aren’t. They’re built upon with generations of influence, money, and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:01 AM
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I can because I intend on proposing and all my closest friends know it already. And they’re excited for me. Why should anyone make you feel ashamed because a woman loves you? Why are the optics bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:59 AM
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Okay but assume you are but she planned the proposal first and just beat you to it. She let you know she wanted to as a gesture of love also. Why is it weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:39 AM
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Why do your friends and family not want you to be lavished on and adored in such a grand and romantic way? A lot of men on here claim that women aren’t romantic enough to them and don’t put in the same effort. Why discourage that? Is being love with you foolish?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:37 AM
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Wow 3ct is a big rock! Why would you friends laugh at you for being proposed to? Why keep friends like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:35 AM
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I agree I think on some level the conversation* of marriage should be happening way before the proposal ETA: sorry major typo!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:35 AM
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Why does obeying and conforming the cultural frame work appeal to you? As a woman in a liberal relationship I purchased the ring privately after we talked together over preferences and I measured his ring size. He hasn’t seen it yet. He has a general idea on what he wants, but has not seen the ring. He doesn’t know when or how it will happen either. Pretty much the same way most men would plan a proposal
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:32 AM
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A lot of relationships today are 50/50 though? And on that note if you feel women are simply bad at being responsible in relationships, I’m going to guess marriage isn’t for you? Or what would you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:31 AM
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A lot of guys on here have answered that think it’s embarrassing or emasculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:30 AM
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It wouldn’t be the first time I got on my knees for him and he didn’t think it was silly then…. Seems an odd time to dislike the position right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:29 AM
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Is there a reason you’d prefer to propose first?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:28 AM
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Okay suppose she did but told you she wanted to plan the proposal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:57 AM

I wasn't talking about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:35 PM

"Just how it is" You're really just outright saying you're a bad person... I mean it's your life- but I'd want to spend mine very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:31 PM

So what is it regarding then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:10 PM

No I am, men on this subreddit alone with viciously victim blame while insisting they don’t have a choice- pick a profile, any profile really but if you want I can get you screenshots
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:09 PM

“I left that out because the follow up sentence does not establish that the previous sentence applies to a very small minority” How does it not? Are you sure you read it? Maybe you should read it again and explain that to me- break it down word for word how what that sentence states is different
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:09 PM

Can you elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:00 PM

Funny how you left out the sentence right after that that explicitly stated “You may not be in the government or rich as an individual but you still have the autonomy to choose who you spend your time with and who you befriend, what parts of the internet you delve and how you talk to or bond with others.” Literally the prime example of taking something out of context. Cringe. Men will literally blame Rihana for “choosing a bad man” when she was beat black and blue by Chris Brown. Are you walking…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:59 PM

How exactly does being a whiney victim get you laid? I have yet to see that pan out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:55 PM

That just isn’t true. My best friend from college was a virgin well into his late twenties and he’s still my bff and roommate to this day. My other roomie is bisexual and never talks about getting laid so idk what he’s up to but he hasn’t had a gf or bf since I’ve met him. It really isn’t a big deal. They don’t talk about it often because they aren’t losers obsessed with getting laid. We stay up late and get high sometimes, watch our favorite shows together, play MTG. You’ve internalized a certa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:51 PM
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Guilty how? About what? I don’t know them, I didn’t do shit to them. Lol ‘condescending as fuck’ I like how you didn’t actually criticize or anything I said, just got upset and went straight for dismissive insults. Your debate skills are amazing /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:54 AM
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Pursuing who you pursue is still a choice. Swiping right is still a choice. Befriending who you friend is still a choice. Your choice doesn’t start with being come onto- but you’ve removed all your accountability and agency down to complete victimhood when you attempt to set these things aside and insist you have no choice unless someone chooses you. You always have choice. If you feel this powerless in your life- time to take control- and by that I mean the things you CAN feasibly control like …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:03 PM
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First of all debate 101 is to not make it weird and personal, but certain sour individuals with no ability to manage their temper or engage intellectually just can’t help themselves which is why mods exist lol. Second- show me one part of what I’ve said that proves I’m a “bad person”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:44 PM

Oh not a furry with disordered eating what has the world come to waaaaa! Side note you’ve been reported that’s against this subreddits rules and also proves nothing. Btw what does “suspiciously amateurish” mean exactly- is your Brony art superior or something. How can you shame me for being a furry but also not being good enough at it lol? Also discussing my eating disorder is so random and I have no idea why you think that’s acceptable when you’ve been insisting on your OCD making you a special…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:18 PM
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Morals and ethics should always come above selfish personal gain when it comes to consent. Why are you so shamelessly determined to have social sanctioned coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:57 AM

You are on this subreddit and the topic is sexual in nature and the mention of make up smudging and life experience is relevant. You chose this conversation and now you’re acting like someone religious grandma clutching your pearls and trying to argue all men dislike a woman being unashamed of experience so I’m clarify that no- you’re a pearl clutcher trying to shame me and I’m not impressed by your rudimentary logic and old world opinions. You don’t go on a subreddit about dating and sex to a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:43 AM
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How so? Why are you so desperate to defend sexual assault and coercion based on loose technicalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:40 AM
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No I really was just trying to say that it takes self criticism and awareness to be a good person and at the bare minimum you should give a shit about honest informed mutual consent. The fact that triggers you so deeply well… Yee doth protest too much I fear. Getting tired about hearing about your OCD. No one asked and I have no sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:42 AM
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On the contrary my bf finds it hot when we talk about all the good sex and fun we’ve had lol. Keep your dull puritanical prudiness to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:40 AM
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Here’s the thing is I never said rape. I said sexual assault and coercion which aren’t as exact as rape. Either way we’re getting absurd and pedantic now,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:39 AM
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Makeup isn’t a tool of deception though- anymore than good clothing that fits nicely or hair gel is. If you cared so much about supposedly being taken advantage of by someone who wears makeup, you couldn’t simply ask if they could take it off first. If they won’t- leave and refuse at that point. If they will- now you know what they look like without it. And to be frank I think few people over the age of 12 would actually struggle to recognize makeup and comprehend the minor changes it adds to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:49 PM
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Do you know that? Have you lied to get what you want sexually? Have you taken advantage of someone too drunk to stand or talk clearly? Have you initiated sex on a sleeping partner? Have you pressured someone who was hesitant or on the fence? Have you intentionally convinced someone to go to somewhere private so you could get them alone and then pressure them? Have you groped or felt someone up and tried again when they told you no or that they weren’t comfortable or ready for that? I don’t consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:44 PM
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I think you can’t handle the possibility that this very common thing is in actuality a kind of coercion so your projecting your fear of how horrible that is onto others. The way you describe paralysis as a reaction to the word rape holds heavy implications that it strikes great fear into your hard, even in a circumstance where you aren’t the victim for the perpetrator. I get the sense you know how despicable sexual assault is and are struggling to grasp the gravity of possibly being one of its p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:27 AM
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“Because sex” is a really really dumbed down understanding of romantic and sexual relationships as a whole. Asexual people are in relationships too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:00 AM
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Going through my profile? Weird behavior. That’s Reddit 101 don’t be a weirdo stalker that goes through profiles for ammunition based on the personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:49 PM
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Do you care that strangers you aren’t interested in are getting laid? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:31 AM
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End does not justify the means
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:30 AM
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Dude why are you even on Reddit, wooooaaah think about it bro… totally radical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:30 AM
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Still not a source for that either. We’re waiting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:27 AM
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If she persisted to harass him after rejection or get jealous and aggressive I’d absolutely tell her tough shit. No means no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:40 AM
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Lying to get sex is coercive. If you do this you are a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:39 AM
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Again- rub one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:39 AM
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Because you shouldn’t have to pay someone to consent to sex with you. Tbh if it’s good enough on its own…. It isn’t good
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:08 PM
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I heartily agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:07 PM
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Not how anything works. I have a bf. He’s really all I want sexually so I don’t fancy strangers lol. Also still not a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:20 PM
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That’s not how anything works. Desperate people will make horrible sacrifices to survive, and you have already acknowledged that in your above comments. You’re talking about exploiting desperate women for their bodies, which is hardly above sex trafficking. Why not call it what it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:34 PM
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I find that really sad though if anything. They’re still being taken advantage of, you’re still shit if you mistreat someone end of sentence. If she expresses wanting something serious, the honest to do would be to tell her that won’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:26 PM
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If you purchase a slave and then force them to do slave work prior to setting them free, you are in every sense part of the problem and not above it. You’re actively taking advantage of someone powerless and you acknowledge it. It sounds like you know exactly what kind of moral position you have and what quality of person you are. Let’s not sugarcoat it. This is not a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:21 PM
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Okay it sounds like you definitely aren’t part of the problem in this particular case then. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:19 PM
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Why if you don’t like or value those activities? That’s fine you can choose to be with whomever you like within reason. But then you’re acknowledging sex is an aspect of the relationship not the only objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:14 PM
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Do you have a father? Do you have any friends? Online video game homies? Do you have a boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:13 PM
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I agree. That wasn’t the purpose of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:11 PM
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Sure but it’s often the next step
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:11 PM
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And you’re… happy about that? Preying on those people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:11 PM
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I’m not arguing against that- I’m stating that isn’t a solid foundation to build a relationship on and wastes people’s time- if you can’t get consent from telling truth- you cannot get consent period. I’m not denying this happens, I’m stating it isn’t healthy or moral or functional
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:10 PM
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“The only reasons I would tolerate the presence of a woman on my life” Is she in your life actually if all you’re doing is using her as a breeding mare?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:59 PM
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So marriage is not a serious relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:57 PM
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Is it working out for them though actually? There seems to be a lot of bitter divorced men complaining about women initiating separation, likely in part because of how little these husbands are bringing to the relationship. Is it working out for these guys really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:55 PM
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If a person pursues only looks than their relationships are fairly shallow. And? Your point? This relates to the post how? Also do you have any proof that that means their relationships after being matched are built entirely on looks rather than it just being initial appeal. This discussion revolves around people pursuing relationships entirely for the sex, not just wanting it as an one of the initial positives of having a love life- but it being the sole objective of having and maintaining a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:49 PM
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I don’t want to do anything to them. I do think we should further assess our current legislation on rape by deception but otherwise I just think it should be socially frowned upon and discussed further as the issue that it is rather than dismissed and normalized as just something men do. Men being dishonest coercive predators should not be the norm, especially if you’re working towards the not all men are bad narrative- you should want less bad men and you should want them acknowledged for it yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:45 PM
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Not genuine empathy if it’s being feigned to manipulate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:42 PM
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That’s not a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:39 PM
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No unless that was an actual conversation they had. “I’m paying for dinner but only if you’re serious about me, what do you think?” If they lie then yeah that’s no good. No coercive exactly because money is not the same as sexual consent but not good
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:36 PM
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If “I’m not sure” is the truth then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:34 PM
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Ever considered that 90% are the liars. Also source?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:32 PM
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Of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:32 PM
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Who pays for paintings? Fans of art. Oh my gosh the exploitation of people who love art in the art community is despicable!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:31 PM
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Let’s not move on. Let’s talk about it. Why do you think onlyfans exploits men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:23 PM
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How is only fans a trick?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:20 PM
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If someone wants a sex based relationship than there should be no need to lie about it though wasting years of your life putting up with the intense emotional trials of long term love solely for sex sounds like a horrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:07 PM
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My stance was never who is more likely to find sex with honesty. It was always about honesty being the objectively right way to go about your intentions- what exactly would that experiment do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:06 PM
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I’m not arguing against that. Just be honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:01 PM
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“Post your CV” ah ah ah- you said women get what they want. So that shouldn’t matter it’s what I want. “Safety and security are guaranteed by government” Oh honey were you born yesterday? How many sexual predators do you think get actually convincted? And does that undo what they did and make the victims safe and secure? If they were so safe and secure than how did it happen in the first place? What a comfortable life you must live “A relationship with someone who sincerely loves you” Pause for …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:59 PM
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No that is just the objective context of the statement- sorry you skimmed my post lmao. Also read the other comments, there is an abundance of examples of men doing exactly that. What a silly absolutism to represent with such confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:53 PM
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No lying is wrong gender be damned. Read my other comments, I stare exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:51 PM
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Many philosophers would argue that is also not moral or ethical, that utilitarianism or a focus on pleasing the most people is not a strong basis for all moral beliefs due to the amount of means that can justified for the ends. But almost all philosophers would agree that lying is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:51 PM
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“You get what you want more often than not” Like a decent job in this economy? Like safety and security from physical violence and assault? Like a relationship with someone who sincerely loves you rather than with one of these individuals for example? “The average man gains nothing from being honest” He would be a decent human being with good morals that only surrounds themselves with sincere connections and opts out of empty dishonest ones. He would gain a great deal in the way of quality and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:46 PM
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Those both suck and one is not really better than the other. Lying is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:44 PM
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Make you happy how exactly? So say you get laid and are now rich, and now you’ve had it all and done it all? Do you like yourself? Does your life have meaning? Aside from hedonistic pleasure, have your pursuits had any meaningful impact?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:43 PM
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I feel like historical context is extremely important here. Women used to own nothing and were forced to marry to survive. The statement that a woman doesn’t need a man for her necessities is essentially her way of expressing that she has the power to choose rather than settle just so she has a roof over her head. It doesn’t necessarily mean that a man cannot be a meaningful addition for her as a companion. It’s just her way of expressing that men no longer posses and control her the way women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:39 PM
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Then let them all be alone. I don’t care. I don’t want shitty relationships to exist that hurt people purely because it’s somehow more exciting than being alone for the toxic individuals pursuing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:36 PM
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Absolutely projection- it’s easy to convince yourself that everyone is just as conniving is this logic comes so naturally to you- but obviously you’re the main character of the universe so you’re just an innocent lil victim when you do it 🥺🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:35 PM
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That’s still an opinion. And don’t forget the context. If no one will consent to you, you shouldn’t have sex at all. Are you arguing FOR sexual assault or…?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:34 PM
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If you’re honest about that sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:33 PM
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Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:32 PM
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So you agree this is gross and awful and shouldn’t be perpetuated or defended?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:31 PM
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A relationship built of looks is the very basics of superficiality. In sickness and in health, and so forth. Did we miss first grade or something- is this not well known that only so much of our appearances is within our control and that our identities and sense of morals are far more meaningful?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:30 PM
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No I didn’t. Find me that quote anywhere. I said there’s a chance you’re being vetted out because you’re being dishonest and we don’t trust the way you come off enough to interact with you. Also crazy hot take- there are degrees of being a bad or harmful person and not all of them justify putting human beings onto an island. Crazy I know!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:27 PM
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I’m not. I don’t know you and I didn’t actually look into your degree of honesty and tell you that you can’t pursue what you’re pursuing right? Im expressing my opinion and sense of morals on a debate subreddit, are you lost?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:24 PM
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It’s insane how many people struggle with the simple concept of informed consent, and honest communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:23 PM
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I don’t value success in the form of devastating others and their well being. What is your end goal to a pattern of callousness and cut throat policies to success of some kind? If others grow wise to your tactics and resent you, leaving you a rolling stone of dishonest patterns, continuously being turned over and left with disgust, does that make you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:20 PM
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“In hopes” read that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:18 PM
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“Why not though?” Because putting a man on an island alone purely because I’m uninterested in a fling with him makes no sense at all- someone else is probably interested for starters and if not- that’s fine- that doesn’t necessitate isolating him further if he can take no for an answer? Choosing not to fuck someone is in no way even close to forcefully relocating them into some lord of the flies circumstance out of spite. It’s laughable and has no connection to my arguments. Ala- strawman. So no…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:17 PM
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It’s not convenient- it’s basic consent and cause and effect. Getting robbed is not the same as robbing someone- go figure. If she actively lied to men to get what she wanted out of interactions- that would be just as shitty. What’s convenient is you picking a common incident that women are victim of to try and make a very weak comparison to a harmful action many men perpetrate instead of using a literal one for one comparison- almost like you know a one for one comparison would fail to support …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:08 PM
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Yeah I agree. If they’re honest about it being superficial that’s their own choice. It’s just quite disturbing how many people want a purely aesthetic relationship but insist that that is somehow a loving one and one they are entitled to should any person get involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:07 PM
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No. She’s not pursuing said circumstances. She’s being dehumanized against her sincere wishes and wants. That’s hardly comparable to the blatant intent to deceive someone lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:05 PM
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Have you ever undergone any evaluations for a diagnosis of some kind? I think most people should have the basic empathy of not being willing to do awful things to innocent individuals purely for self gratification. I don’t say that to be ableist it’s just something to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:03 PM
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I never said you can’t pursue women for sex though I’d argue there are men capable of love in a whole variety of tax brackets and walks of life- I said you’re absurd if you’re dishonest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:02 PM
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I disagree. Men would say the same thing of a woman who feels entitled to a man who doesn’t want her. Consent is consent. If no one wants you, lying, manipulating and coercing them is detestable and you’re an objectively bad person, gender be damned. Any man offended by that statement should look inward that the basics of consent is so offensive and hurtful to them. Also I never said send them to an island- that is an absurd strawman lmao- let’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:00 PM
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You would think so but this is a pretty common topic of discussion on this subreddit with many arguing contractual relationships built on giving each other that one superficial thing each person wants, are perfectly valid and functional and not harmful at all. Also there are endless posts from men on here boldfaced admitting that being honest about their want for purely casual flings and hookups makes it near impossible to find anyone interested and willing and using it to justify lying to peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:54 PM
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None of us are denying that humans have a long history of subjugation, assault, and cruelty to women- were not arguing about history we’re arguing about nature vs nurture, the idea that it’s provably the biological nature of men to assault and abuse women. If such a thing is just the reality of men- there would truly be no point in allowing them any rights at all for the benefit of society. The majority of men would be forced to be castrated for the sheer safety of everyone else. But we know men…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:56 PM
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You would need some evidence of this claim and you just don’t have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:42 PM
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Idk about that. I think even genuinely messed up guys who do coercive things don’t like to think of themselves as rapists or be so brazen even if they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:34 PM
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Because there would be clear anatomical biological evidence of it. In animals were conception is forced, there are typically notable differences in their anatomy- take ducks for example. There’s no evidence with our bodies and biology that reproduction was necessarily non consensual. There’s plenty more evidence that pregnant women were provided ample support to survive their gestation periods and birth. Violent conception is proven to have significant negative impacts to the health of human kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:30 PM
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That’s a societal choice or issue not a trait of evolution. In order for it to be the way we evolved we would need to have altered our anatomy, instincts, chemistry, that way just to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:11 PM
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There is zero evidence that we actually evolved for non consensual impregnating and far more to suggest that we’ve relied of team work villages to survive and support one another. Anthropologists have stated that the first sign a society has been built is when there is evidence that a broken leg was healed because such a thing is impossible to survive from without the support of others. I’d argue similar things are true of gestation. Pregnancy is incredibly difficult on the body and all evidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:55 PM
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That’s just not how that works. We want men to regulate and process their feelings in a healthy way. You’re admitting you can’t communicate and are upset with no end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:30 PM
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Okay so if this is you opening up what sort of reaction are you expecting that would make you feel heard?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:05 PM
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Communication is a complicated thing. You can’t just scream all your worst or most complicated feelings into the void and expect everyone to understand them. That would probably be best for a therapist. When talking to people in your personal life you have to be considerate of how what you say affects others if you want them to care about you as well. Also, saying I’m bored and want sex isn’t exactly a deep or relatable thought. It’s like saying I’m hungry or I’m tired. Like yeah, but what else?…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:56 PM
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Sex is a deeply personal want and experience and I am a stranger. Furthermore many women have been SAed and take a while to trust someone about even talking about this subject. And lastly, why are you telling me about this, why is this a feeling you need to share?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:16 PM
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This has 100% happened to me and If not claim they were cheated on, I have had men cry actual tears over the perceived betrayal of me seeing other men when they insisted on no labels no exclusivity lmao. Not everyone who wants someone casual is being dishonest but I do think you should be honest if you want exclusivity and have no right to have a fit when you don’t receive it if you never asked for it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:12 PM
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while some people are genuinely just shitty and demanding stoicism from men, a lot of the times the criticism men are receiving for their venting and frustrations online is aimed more and the poor and ineffective ways it's communicated. Most men don't know how to say "I'm lonely, I'm sad, I wish someone were here to spend time with me" or "I want to hold someones hand, I want to take nice pictures with someone, make memories with them" which are all super valid feelings I don't have any difficul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 06:27 PM
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Better parenting and therapy for future generations, social movements for rebuilding communities with emphasis on educating people on their differences and how to show respect for one another, more science and research into what currently pulls us apart, an increase in in person social activities and even individuals that can help prepare you for social events with good expectations and basic advice- Ala “make sure you smell great and don’t touch strangers without asking when attending etc.” A l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:19 PM
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And ableism, racism, the deportation of immigrants and separation of their families, the ongoing struggles of queer and trans people. I do care about men’s issues. No one is saying they don’t matter at all. But there isn’t a lot of actionable solutions I as a woman can make because most of these issues are rooted in personal lifestyle choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:44 AM
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It’s not about that one time- it’s about consistent patterns of selfishness and neglect over and over again. NEVER doing your share of the chores. NEVER buying cheap flowers from the grocery store just to show you care. NEVER initiating quality time together yourself. Reading this is a dead give away that you’re a pretty bad partner. I’d find you a waste of time too. This isn’t weaponize competence or neuroticism, you just expect to be a part of someone’s life without doing the bare minimum. Rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:00 AM
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You edited your comment.. you know they can read your edit history right? You’ve been reported for racially charged commentary. “Minstrel” is beyond not okay. There’s nothing fragile about not accepting that. You know it’s wrong. That’s why you edited it. If you don’t want people to know you said something you should look at yourself and ask if you’re ashamed of who you are and how you behave. Don’t project that onto me as sensitive. I’m proud to give a shit. You should try it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:38 AM
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I think there’s a lot of people that think they can play sports they’ve never played actually lol. Also yikes, that’s well beyond this subreddits rules. Have a fun possible ban…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:28 AM
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You can have sexual confidence without exterior validation. This is an arbitrary goal post for an internal belief. No one can make you like yourself. Also most women I know are not obsessed with men being skilled and knowledgeable in bed- we just want someone open minded and a good listener.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:24 AM
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I mean I agree that sex is pretty overrated but I don’t think using people as pieces of meat is the right way to learn that tbh. I think really just common sense and learning about it from honest people have had it is more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:17 AM
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Shows who exactly? And I’m pretty sure virgins know…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:53 AM
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Okay so this always confuses me. Why do people think you need to sleep with one person or lose your virginity in order to sleep with others? I’ve never met a person above the age of 12 that actually cares if you’re a virgin or not. I do know a few people that if they read this post, would not sleep with you. But losing your virginity doesn’t make you suddenly more likely to sleep with other people?? It doesn’t make any sense. You can argue that it’s about confidence but only if you base your con…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:44 AM
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This is just how statistics work, actually. Making a claim that a majority of something acts a certain way, should be probable with surveys and studies, but making a claim that a small group of outliers behaves a certain way is much easier to support with simple one off examples. Maybe you should learn a little about math and science…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:44 PM
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I mean, is the claim that some women are like this or the majority? Because if the majority then I’d say statistics are needed, but if you’re arguing some women are mean in shallow- I’d just say yeah- people of every group can be mean and shallow. There’s not really a lot to that, some people suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:26 AM
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I'm gunna be honest op, you sound like 80 years old. Like this is a rant my grandmother would have. I think you might be having trouble processing the way things have changed generationally
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:20 PM
4

Sigh, here we go again. “I only get what I want by lying so that makes it okay. 🥺” Boo hoo. I don’t care. Basic morals and ethics when it comes to consent completely overrule your desperation to get laid. Being a decent human being should always come first. Get your priorities straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:39 PM
1

you're completely incorrect. I'm VR enthusiast and digital artist. I occasionally enjoy nature but I'm not a frequent hiker. I crochet, I do not knit. My favorite color is bubblegum pink. My favorite food is palak paneer. My favorite shows are The GoodPlace, Parks and Rec, and The Office I'm 28 years old and I wake up at 6 am. :) You don't know anything about strangers. It's almost like we're individuals. embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 11:10 PM
2

Oh really? What are my hobbies? What’s my favorite food? What shows do I like to watch? What’s my favorite color? How old am I? What time do I wake up? What time do I go to bed? These are my habits, so go on, show us
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:38 PM
2

It’s cute you think you know how our minds work better than us. But I don’t think it’s useful to this conversation. If you have any genuine substantial thoughts to add to the discourse please do. Otherwise, I’d consider getting educated on the idea that you are not telepathic and cannot by any means argue you know how a woman thinks more than she herself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:15 PM
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as a woman that has been raped, I heartily disagree- don't use real victim's voice as an excuse if you aren't one!-, the only person this disctinction really protects are the ones perpetrating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 09:49 PM
2

I don't care for whether that specific terminology exactly applies to the circumstance- lying is ethically and morally wrong and consent requires you to KNOW what you are agreeing to- even in this definition of consent- the problem is the person doesn't know what's going on. Whether lying and promising a relationship is an exact one to one to that issue isn't besides the point and you're very much derailing the discussion to nitpick on what you perceive as an easier argument to win. I see this a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:36 PM
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This is what I mean when I say way more men are sexually assaulting women than they often think- some of them are just sugar coating what they're doing in their minds. "I'm not like those guys because X, Y, Z" It's why guys on here insist that false SA accusations are so common, they don't see some of their morally reprehensible actions as predatory and therefore cannot comprehend just how many men are sexual predators. If you are actively lying and manipulating people to sleep with you and you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:28 PM
2

lets not get petty and pedantic- lying to someone so they'll sleep with you isn't informed consent. It's a violation. Makeup is not comparable to lying about intentions. Not even close. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:26 PM
4

absolutely. Both are wrong :) Someone else being a POS does not give you free pass to do the same to others. You should still try to be a decent human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:58 PM
5

yeah because you know the ethics of what you're doing are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:58 PM
3

How about picking up on some basic reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:57 PM
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TLDR; this Redditor thinks coercion and manipulation / lying to potential partners is cool and can’t get laid without it and does not care about the ethics of informed consent. Tough shit :) Basic morality is well above your need to get laid. If you can't have sex ethically, you should not have sex at all. Boohoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:07 PM
2

What happens when the majority of voting adults becomes young women? This guy should not have been allowed to graduate high school
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:06 AM
1

Yeah. I don’t relate with people who want novelty and variety in the form of swinging enm etc, not my thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:57 AM
0

Yes but also no. It depends who you ask. N count is still a popular topic on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:53 AM

It would for me. I’d be honored to date a man so loving and considerate to his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:48 AM
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I’m sorry to hear that your fellow men do not care. I’d say keep working to cultivate a friend group that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:52 AM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:07 AM
2

Oh no thank you I really enjoy monogamy from both of us. Loyalty really deepens the connection for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:32 PM
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"Men have been told that they get friendzoned if they act like friends" - That's a very confused and one dimensional understanding of the issue. I've never written off a person as solely a friend that I could never see otherwise unless it had been clearly the case for months or years, or for example they told me about other people they were interested in or expressed a lack of interest in me romantically. 'Friendzoning' isn't an action or decision and is often just a reality of a lack of emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:48 AM
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I think the easiest answer is the golden rule: Do unto others as you would done unto you. Unfortunately whether you are an incel, or simply leaning into more conservative perspectives of masculinity and manhood, or a whole variety of other individualistic things, a lot of men struggle massively with basic empathy and just can't seem to grasp that women are also, you know, human beings and not remotely as forgein or alien to them as they think. So many men can't even picture treating us like they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 12:42 AM
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It’s because we’re individuals and can’t read strangers minds so we don’t make black and white assumptions about others. You should try it- it’s an exercise in dualistic thinking and could expand your one dimensional understanding of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:25 PM
2

How do you know that the situation isn’t a mutual circumstance? How are you so sure it’s the woman that wants something more and not the man? And where’s the evidence that these are even commonplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:23 PM
3

"A sad state of affairs that we have collectively conflated what women find sexually desirable with who is worthy of belonging." No notes. Solid. Mic drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:26 PM
2

You still have the power to limit your social interactions with those people though. No deserves judgmental people in their life for things as harmless as loneliness or awkwardness. Don’t be their friend. A therapist can help you navigate the stresses involved in finding your people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:55 PM
3

Hi loving this discourse you’re both right and I wish you the best on that journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:09 PM
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We’re really not though, that’s never been a big allure for me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:42 PM
1

What evidence do you have about the biological links to any of these claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:47 AM
3

If I sleep with a guy casually- it’s because I’m not serious about him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 09:21 AM
2

I mean I did specifically write “with no previous experience of being in a long term relationship” and you acknowledged he had a wife previously so that doesn’t really add up Also the problem of securing commitment is pretty simple- delay sex until the relationship is secure or have sex knowing it may not lead anywhere per what you’ve agreed upon at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 09:08 AM
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Sounds like an obscure example of a shallow, manipulative person who can easily convince people of his appeal and continued to benefit from it later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:54 AM
1

Sounds like a personal choice. Which is fine. But what is there to discuss or argue? How does this really connect with the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:33 AM
1

No you are not. No one is. For better or for worse you are an individual. I could never replace my bf (and soon to be fiancé- planning my proposal) and I also couldn’t replace any of my exes because they were all individuals. I’d still choose him over anyone I’ve been with but they were all distinct people and I’m glad that every one of them was an original person. I never wanted to replace my exes, I wanted to find a love that was right and compatible for me and they were not. No one person has…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:26 AM
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No. I think most people are attractive enough that should they also be a kind affectionate romantic, I’d be eager to be intimate with them. I don’t feel impulsive attraction to strangers without some bonding and trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:07 AM
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I’m not sure I’d say most but some men absolutely, though I don’t know that it’s a static way of being or a phase in their life when they are immature. Not my thing, these guys don’t actually want a relationship and all entails and would be better off not being in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:03 AM
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It is considerably different. I’ve heard from the elderly and disabled what loneliness is like for them and it’s pretty heavy. Their entire family are sometimes passed on and the ones still around are often too young to relate. Their friends all eventually drop like flies. Some of them beginning losing their range of motion of other senses and are abandoned to government aid facilities with strangers. It’s heart wrenching tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:34 AM
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Sorry that’s a bummer. What do you like to do with your free time?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:32 AM
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Naw, are you kidding me, Mr. Clean is drowning in ladies? On a real note I’m literally lying next to my bald bf as we speak. It’s not the end dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:31 AM
1

Sounds fun! Where is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:01 AM
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I don’t have any difficulty understanding that age comes for us all- it’s just that so many RPers insist they’ll be sleeping around casually until they’re cold in their grave only pulling 9s and so forth- but haven’t worked out the logistics of that. At some point we all become old and face the downsides of that and that’s completely fine but it doesn’t align with the superficial fantasies and expectations of most RPers. When they’re older how will they keep pulling young good looking women. 40s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:22 AM
5

What do you write about? Preferred genre? I write too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:04 AM
4

I mean I thought you guys didn’t want “run through hoes” and I do think after a certain point say 65 - 70 you will find it a lot harder to keep pursuing young and attractive people if that is your end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:03 AM
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just because you aren't at risk of it happening doesn't mean it isn't a thing you'd want to happen- I don't mean to ask if you're afraid it WILL happen so much as the idea of it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:24 AM
2

Well that is sad to hear. Do you have any hobbies or fun activities to keep you going?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:36 AM
4

If they can afford it and are clever enough to not get scammed. I don’t know how realistic this will be for everyone. I believe that plenty of men will be old, tired, with little to no prospects. Here in America most people are living paycheck to paycheck- the odds that their financial status will be really that much better when their bodies give out... aren't good
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:35 AM
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lol it’s definitely a porn category my dude. FWB, step siblings, any relationship you can think of really. But that’s besides the point. The language is crude and insensitive and has no romantic meaning to it. Men that expect romance should be capable of expressing romantic intentions themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:40 AM
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Failure implies fault. Sometimes things just don’t work out and it’s no one’s fault. There’s nothing to be ashamed of in that. Relationships require two willing parties interested in the same path and ready to make it work and sometimes things just don’t line up. Not everyone even wants a relationship after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:32 AM
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that doesn't really negate the irony of someone whining that women are unromantic for being cautious and hesitant to engage in a relationship and would like to weigh the pros and cons, while describing the entirety of their own expectations of a relationship as essentially a fuck buddy. Context matters- shocker I know. Let's not pretend that that comment was deeper than it was. If a person expects deeply romantic meaning in relationships, at the very least they should have bigger romantic ideas …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:23 PM
1

that was my comment that it is not failure. That means you are arguing lol.....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:21 PM
5

literally never have??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:38 PM
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Right because FWB and fuck buddies are just as deep and meaningful life long connections as a wife or partner right? I’m just saying that thinking realistically about if a relationship fits well in your life and is a benefit to you both isn’t unromantic- arguably it’s a kindness not to waste someone’s time. If anyone is being callous and unromantic- it’s the way men talk about love in these replies. Reading you describe it this way makes me doubt many people are even capable of loving because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:22 PM
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I don’t agree with the medium ugly jokes but I will say that What they’re describing is unconventionally attractive people, people that are very appealing to them but don’t fit the typical beauty standard. It’s poor phrasing but it isn’t supposed legit mean they find these men unappealing. It’s a fucking tik tok lmao. Not remotely a reflection of the average woman’s opinion or beliefs. Log off. Touch grass. And all that. It has absolutely nowhere near the level of vitriol men will share about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:20 PM
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“Get to fuck” is that all a relationship is to you? Access to a body? Yeah I think you need to work on your maturity, most people aren’t interested in a relationship with someone who sees the complexities of love as something this objectifying and shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:11 PM
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That feels unromantic and “best friend I get to fuck” doesn’t to you? Do you hear yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:07 PM
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I grew up the ugly duckling and then got hot for a brief while in my early twenties just to go back to being mid in my late twenties. I still don’t harbor any of this brain rot. It’s also not a valid excuse. Grow up and stop weaponizing sympathy as an excuse to be a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:05 PM
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I’ve never met you and you’re in a relationship and so am I, so this hypothetical that I would not be interested….kind of nullifies the point doesn’t it? And no I won’t just admit anything because it just isn’t true lol. Considering you’re on this sub and insisting a stranger just admit to being bitter and shallow and cold and calculating… you most likely do not pass all the things I just listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:01 PM
5

So what? That’s their personal life and personal journey and no one’s business. Why do you care? Let them be single until they find what they’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:55 PM
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More like there’s a ton of okay men. But they’re not all politically aligned They don’t all want the same future. They don’t all find me attractive. They aren’t all intellectually stimulating and interesting to talk to. They aren’t all willing to commit They aren’t all straight They aren’t all sexually compatible They aren’t all in my area They aren’t all an appropriate age for me to date They aren’t all in the right head space for a relationship. And of course there’s also a lot of guys who see…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:58 AM
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Being single / alone isn’t some kind of failure for anyone of any gender. There are a million completely good reasons not to be in a relationship. There’s nothing shameful about it. Edit: also I’ll do you one better, being in a relationship with an absolute bum of a man that wastes your time and disrespects you in front of your loved ones is one thousand times more embarrassing and even then I’d sympathize because people can get stuck in awful relationships for years due to circumstance. But kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:44 AM
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Did you even read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:46 AM
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Also like lost of women love their porn and spice and smut and sexual content but I have YET TO MEET ONE who complains that their partner is not visually similar to the characters in the books. I've certainly seen tiktoks venting that their partners don't put in as much effort in the relationship as their book husbandos but I've NEVER MET a person who has complained that their husband or bf does not look like their celebrity crush or book crush down to an exact type like this post- the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:39 AM
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Loving it. you're so right- I'm so tired of this reddit's overwhelming population of porn sick limp dick sufferers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:15 AM
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This is just absurd negging. Types and fantasies about niche aesthetic and modlesque women and porn stars to the point of being disapointed in your real life partner who loves and supports you is profoundly childish and empty-headed. Why should I give a fuck if I don't fit into your favorite gooner porn category- and why do you give af? This is so chronically online it's not even funny. Like if a guy told me this I'd just leave? What do you want to prove with this post? That these men are dense …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:22 PM
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vibes honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:18 PM
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Never when they forced themselves on me and assumed I wanted them without establishing my consent and reading the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:04 AM
1

Nope, can’t be vague. Drop a quote. Stop dodging saying what you mean and just say it. What are you so afraid of?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:02 AM
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I very much initiated a lot of the interaction with my bf. Including the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:37 AM
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No. In order to engage in debate, you can’t be willfully vague and use phrases like “you know” you have to take a clear definitive stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:26 AM
1

“Learning how to have a relationship comes after that” I think a lot of people would prefer the opposite order or operations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:24 AM
1

Usually that involves modeling positive relationships, not telling your kids who they should date…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:43 AM
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At least you’re honest and self aware about it now I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:41 AM
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Emphasis on dorky guy and cute girlfriend- I think there’s an expectation that they’ll be like a movie protag and always score a dream girl, a manic pixie dream girl, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:40 AM
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Yeah Reddit definitely has the same vibe as going to the table top gaming room at a comic or anime convention- if you’ve done it… you know it smells it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:39 AM
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Exactly. And they take it to such a delusional extreme. “She only wants 6 foot chad that’s all women, we’re all going to die alone” like no, it’s really not that fucking black and white. Lookism and aesthetics are an issue but it’s more of an issue with the beauty industry and entertainment industry than anything else. Normal people exist. It’s insane how hard that is for them to grasp. Or talking like women not being these Angellic madonnas is a cataclysmic realization and they’ll never recover…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:37 AM
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I promise you they were not doing it out of any particular interest in me lmao. Because if I really wanted someone to not lose interest in me I’d definitely not be such an a hole to them out the bat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:40 AM
3

“My chat GPT mommy thinks it’s hot”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:38 AM
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Naw she goes to another school
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:38 AM
1

We can and have statistically supported the issue of abuse in relationships and historical dehumanization of women. Knowledge is power. Ignorance prevents you from actually substantiating your beliefs. If you can only support them through vibes and a lack of evidence and it falls apart when you look into any scientific data or documentation- that should be a huge wake up call
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:37 AM
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Did you read the post? I’ve been a relationship for 3 years
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:26 AM
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Right because all misogynists with partners are total hotties. Like Donald trump and Elon musk are absolute chads /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:25 AM
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No. ‘Logic’ is not enough. My partner met me online and was simply a kind and decent person. And plenty of others have had the same story. I can find endless stories of real people that met each other online not by being crass edgy horn dogs. If you want claim that it won’t pay off to be decent and learn basic social etiquette etc you have to support that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:20 AM
1

Can you provide evidence that supports this is true for the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:18 AM
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I brought it up because I explicitly don’t want that and it being the default way of flirting to be gross and crass and rude is why a lot of guys are getting unmatched or not matched with in the first place if they have it in their bio
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:17 AM
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Got any sources that they genuinely like jerks as opposed to people that engage in playful banter or teasing? There is a huge difference
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:15 AM
5

Believing chads are a real thing is an even bigger one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:14 AM
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Do they? Do we have evidence that even say 20% of women do that let alone the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:13 AM
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I don’t think they’re saying otherwise, they’re calling those individuals deeply immature and not fully actualized mentally and emotionally which I don’t disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:09 AM
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I don’t think anyone cares about your diagnosis or experiences on this thread no offense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:07 AM
0

What makes you so certain that is what would happen? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:04 AM
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“The factors that led to women matching with these men” elaborate on that. And yes, being rude is also a choice. Be a decent person and you might blow it less of the time. Is this hard to understand or…?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:32 AM
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Some women want something casual. He didn’t force them to do it against their boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:30 AM
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What I’m describing isn’t clinginess though, it’s straight up rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:44 PM
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Idk if this is just like incredibly difficult for men on here to understand or what but most people I know like to get to know someone before agreeing to something sexual just to make sure that person isn’t super crazy, weird, dangerous, or carrying STIs or has bad intentions. Does that make sense? Or are you still needing clarification?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:43 PM
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The fact that you think an entire person’s moral hingeing on how much sex he gets is normal, is appalling. As if no one can ever be decent for decencies sake? You truly care more about sex than being a good person? Why are you here? I mean it why are you here, having this conversation, engaging in society at all if your entire sense of self is built by your sexual success?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:33 PM
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There’s a huge difference between expressing interest and pushing against established boundaries. And my partner managed to score me without doing any of the shit I described in the above post
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:31 PM
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Honestly you’re right thanks for the tip. I do find letting them down gently but completely honestly and then just dipping hits harder than lashing out back and leaving them with the impression that you’re just a hater so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:21 PM
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Okay so let me get this straight, they’re only douchey to women they think are mid because we aren’t “worth his time” but then why spend it on us? And also he’s only that way because he can pull that on women who are mid and yet others are in the comments very much affirming that we don’t care for this and we don’t find it attractive and they’re blowing it on us acting like this so which isn’t? And if we’re the outliers who is it working on and why do it if it isn’t worth his time?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:19 PM
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I don’t think you really understand what boundaries are. Approaching isn’t crossing boundaries. Crossing boundaries is when someone explicitly tells you what their comfort zone is and you disrespect that. If someone looked right at you and said “oh no thank you, you’re so unattractive to me” and you kept pressuring and pushing and taunting and insisting she’s lying, that’d be crossing boundaries. If she said I don’t do casual and you insisted on casual that’s crossing a boundary. These people cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:14 PM
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A few times when I’ve had really spectacularly rude and awful interactions I’ve chewed them out prior to blocking them. Just a short list of reasons why they fucked up and should be embarrassed and a block to let them sit with my final thoughts in silence. If they were truly an asshole and I felt they needed to dwell on their behavior. Most of the time I’d just ghost or block. Interestingly they’ve never asked me where they fucked up if I ghosted. Which is funny because they could have learned s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:12 PM
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I don’t think I’d care if I didn’t get a date by acting as a gentleman, I’d still rather be decent and single than not. Arguing that getting laid comes before basic manners and decorum isn’t a take I’d be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:10 PM
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Wow that’s a long novel. I’m saying your describing consensual circumstances where the individuals expressed consent and interest and pursued you back where as the post is about men who harass everyone woman they meet without gauging how they want to be talked to or treated first. But you’re describing people you asked consent to interact this type of way with which isn’t relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:05 PM
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You’re conflicting your own arguments. A second ago the whole point was that a douchey guy can still score a decent partner and will only improve for someone willing to tolerate their immaturity but now you’re arguing against yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:02 PM
1

That is a very extreme stance to take. Can you provide evidence that every man who has ever had sex or a relationship is a bad person and that most decent men have died a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:01 PM
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By that criteria there are very few men, at least online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:58 PM
0

You make it sound Herculean to be a decent person
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:57 PM
2

Source? What incentive? Explain it. And if the argument is that the ego boost of scoring an interested partner than makes these guys want to aim higher than your initial argument that these guys are worth pursuing because they’ll improve falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:56 PM
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Did he read the room and pursue people who were also causal and looking for something short term and hang around a casual scene, or did he pull this is every circumstance imaginable and always succeed? This is a time and place type of discussion about manners, reading the room, and establishing comfort zones and boundaries instead of just being gross and douchey to every woman you meet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:55 PM
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You’re describing consensual interactions where the women suggested they wanted these circumstances and you asked them first in pretty much all of these situations. That is not the point of the post. It’s about understanding people’s comfort levels and not forcing things when the person has made it clear they don’t like that. You’re also being extremely vague about how some of these became sexual conversations. I never said women don’t like a casual situations or sex early on. My post is about r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:53 PM
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If women like him as is why change?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:49 PM
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Why would anyone gamble on someone changing like that when other people are already decent? Also I’ve met this kind of douchey person and seen how life plays out when they commit. They change a little but not a lot. They’re still loud and like to shout at the TV during football season, think motorcycles are cool, love getting black out drunk on cheap beer. This is hyperbole and just examples but what I’m saying is they didn’t really change. Most people can only change on their own merit after al…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:31 PM
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And yet it didn’t work on me remotely and a good chunk of those guys were just average joes in gym shorts with beat up cars and minimum wage jobs (you know, like me tbh 🤷🏻‍♀️) I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 6 figure, 6 foot, whatever the Chad is supposed to be irl, and I avoided them on the apps because honestly we had nothing in common. Plus they had no hobbies and were all about the grind, superficial and douchey. All surface level and trying so hard to look cool with no personality. Even then…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:25 PM
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Or perhaps they don’t want to learn any other way because they cling to what they prefer to do whether anyone likes it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:24 PM
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Can you tell me about one these encounters and how it played out?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:18 PM
1

Robbing a convenience store makes you automatically NOT a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:49 PM
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If social bonds always outweighs attraction and comparability then just do your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:36 PM
0

Thank you this is so succinct and exactly what I was thinking like “what romantic fantasies” most men in the manosphere are very much interested in fuck boy fantasies about domination and having side girls
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:52 AM
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Just because you’re simple doesn’t me we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:02 AM

What makes you so sure of any of these claims? Got a source for even one of them? Also you’re gravely underestimating the psychological toll a toxic or imbalanced relationship has on a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:59 PM
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Okay sure what would help do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:14 AM

Can’t say this is true for every man but it was definitely true for my exes. Eager to rush into a relationship because it meant so little for them and they expected me to carry it on my back while they got laid. The worst. Would not recommend it to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:27 AM

Your wording is really clunky and unnecessary yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:25 AM

This feels like it was written by AI and is waaaaay too pseudo-intelectual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:04 AM
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This is so random lol. What does that have to do with weekends?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:01 AM
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Jokes on you, a lot of people don’t need any help being mean, spiteful, misogynistic or awful. Also you’re right, attraction can’t be negotiated but it can evolve naturally with closeness and security and it can absolutely be tarnished by a horrid personality and misanthropic moral compass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:58 AM
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“The app said it so it’s true, and the only way to prove otherwise is log into the app” 😩😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:39 AM
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Research shows most women aren’t even on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:36 AM
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I think social anxiety and poor communication are a common problem, gender be damned. The language used to describe young women as “primitive” comes off as misogynistic and and demeaning and is a harmful generalization. In general I’d recommend sticking to the “if they wanted to they would mindset” and entirely disregarding reading into hints and passive signaling. It can be fun and exciting to overanalyze every little interaction and exchange with someone you’re attracted to, to pick up on clue…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:55 PM
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Both. You can find them on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:39 PM
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Stop with the straw men. I never said that. If living a quiet life away from women is your choice, that is your life- I have zero opinions about it. It’s absolutely a valid choice. I don’t think there’s necessarily anything wrong with opting to have an AI girlfriend, or a sex doll, or enjoy romance through fiction, whatever- these are all completely harmless and personal choices like a tattoo or a piercing- it is your life and it hurts no one else to choose it (aside from AI having issues with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:36 PM
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How so? You can’t ask people out? You can’t pursue people? You can’t reject people? What choices does she have that you don’t? This is about choosing not receiving. What if you’re choosing the wrong girls and that’s why they aren’t interested? What choices do you not have?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:17 PM
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Sexual assault can be a stranger or even a trusted family member. So? You agree choose better is a shitty argument as it isn’t often a choice for either right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:16 PM
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You’re just wrong. I’ve been SAed and abused and I’ve heard it many times over.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:15 PM
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Still a choice. Also how do you know you’re not pursuing the wrong people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:13 PM
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Ah yes the gen Z folks who are infamously mature and a realistic depiction of long term love and not at all hormone filled, young and immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:10 PM
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Cute. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:09 PM
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Actually women are as much as 3 to 4 x as likely to attempt but men are more likely to use a firearm, ensuring the attempt is fatal- as guns are often considered a masculine possession. I’m serious, look it up. And I’m pretty sure I’ve been single before lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:08 PM
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You really didn’t read anything I wrote did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:05 PM
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Choosing to be alone or in a relationship is still a choice. Choosing to only go on the apps or only approach irl is a choice. Choosing not to pursue anyone at all and self isolate is a choice. Those are all choices and women have them too. There is no choice I have that you don’t romantically. Everyone’s ability to find a partner relies on them wanting to be in a relationship and someone else wanting it too. I don’t have more choices than you. Someone else just chose me back. But choosing to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:04 PM
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If it is a truly society wide phenomenon we could prove it like physics. We need the stars and moons were farther than they looked before we left the atmosphere. If it exists, it should be provable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:35 PM
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Neither because who the fuck is going to commit to someone after one night?!? You watch too many movies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:26 PM
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Exactlllyyy. Men will say things like “all men cheat it’s in their nature” and no one will say shit against them but when a woman repeats it suddenly it’s “NOT ALL MEN!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:25 PM
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Sure explain it to me with concrete math then. What exactly makes the odds unfair in men’s favor. Sources too please
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:23 PM
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But it’s not though. It won’t actually kill you. Why do you want to have children so badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:58 PM
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I’m just following the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:44 PM
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How did you proposition one person without it being a choice? Did someone force you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:10 PM
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Consent takes two people yes? That’s still fifty fifty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:08 PM
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Choosing is not the same as receiving. You still have a choice. You can still choose who you want. It’s only when two people consensually choose each other that a relationship happens. If you choose someone and they don’t want you, the relationship can’t happen. If they choose you and you don’t choose them, the relationship can’t happen. Right? Makes sense so far? So women can choose someone, men can choose someone, they both get a say and only when they both choose each other does the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:07 PM
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This is unfortunately a real problem. Abused children are often groomed to tolerate abuse well into adulthood and even believe it’s all they are deserving of. However, the double standards of women being accused of making bad choices in comparison to men’s is what I’m talking about today.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:59 PM
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The population is about 50/50. Seems like there’s just as many women as men yeah? You can ask out any consenting adult you want yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:56 PM
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I had my tubes removed on purpose and I’m not dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:52 PM
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Inceldom is not death. You’re still here aren’t you? And the choice is not inceldom or not- it’s individual women. If you truly had no choice but to pursue every woman you met because it was that dire you would have propositioned a good chunk of the other commenters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:51 PM
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Still not evidence or a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:47 PM
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Shooting your shot is a choice. A girl can also shoot her shot and get rejected. It takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:46 PM
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Full sentences please for coherencies sake. You chose all the people you propositioned, those were all choices, and you definitely could have chosen the wrong ones. There’s billions of people out there, and many aren’t on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:44 PM
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So you’ve never tried any of the things I’ve listed? That’s a choice actually. Doing nothing is also a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:42 PM
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Actually you didn’t substantiate your claim. I don’t really care what you think you deserve. Jeeze so personal, you guys really get in your feelings about having to support your ideas with evidence huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:41 PM
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Asking someone out is choosing. Swiping right is choosing. Messaging first is choosing. Ignoring or approaching is choosing. Consent is choosing. Are you pretending to be a head empty NPC or have you never pursued anyone in your life and if the second, how would you expect anything to come from that, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:40 PM
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Not how sources work
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:38 PM
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So you have made the choice to pursue who you’ve pursued. A look at that- a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:38 PM
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Don’t you also choose who you offer yourself too? Also I asked my bf to be my bf. So no one’s asked you, don’t mean it doesn’t happen. Again, you’re probably choosing the wrong people then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:37 PM
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Just seems like you should know the difference between two unique fields of study when arguing their actual efficacy yeah. Glad I can’t be of use to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:35 PM
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That sounds awful I’m sorry to hear that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:34 PM
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How do people get in a relationship though? Do they both agree or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:33 PM

No. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:32 PM
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You’ve never approached anyone or swiped on anyone before?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:31 PM
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Psychiatrists and Therapists aren’t even the same healthcare providers. Those are two different career paths.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:29 PM
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We’re not a hivemind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:26 PM
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He consents or dissents too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:25 PM
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Yeah that’s the point of the post I’m just opening a discussion about the double standards of it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:25 PM
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Do you not swipe? Do you not ask people out? Do you not approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:24 PM
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Then he chose wrong 100 times by the logic of SA victim blamers. Choose better..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:23 PM
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It’s just an example of the kind of dysfunctional relationships women get blamed for having been in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:22 PM
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That makes it his choice too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:21 PM
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What do you consider benefit? Getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:20 PM

WGH?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:20 PM
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Who’s they and why are you telling me about it like I know them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:19 PM
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What do you mean? You aren’t approaching? You aren’t swiping? You aren’t hitting on anyone? Are those not choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:15 PM
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Where is there an enforced order to who chooses? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:11 PM
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How so? Both people need to consent yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:19 PM
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Oops sorry, no victim blaming has a long history of misogyny and propagation by men :) The "What were you wearing" question is infamously one asked repeatedly by men- but you chose to pick an unrelated metaphysical theory proposed by mentally unwell people as if it held any relevence and use it as fodder to argue that no, those people are the only ones blaming victims, which just isn't true. Brock Turner didn't get 6 months in prison because the judge thought women were psychic. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:04 PM
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Then what are you, NPCs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:00 PM

Goodness what a novel of imaginary things from an absolute stranger. It's giving joe goldberg. Words on words about a person's inner thoughts that you know nothing about. Before we go on our little sigmund freud adventure, why don't we start with the basics. How old am I? Am I trans or cis? Am I 5' 9" or 4' 11" or somewhere in between? Do I wear all black, neon tye dye, or athleisure grey? What's my tax bracket? What are my hobbies? Surely if you intend to write this much about my head space the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:59 PM
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I'd choose loneliness over assault any day of the week. It isn't even close. How do you know you aren't choosing the wrong women? Stop choosing women who will reject you then? Hope this helps :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:55 PM
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And actually scientifically speaking you can choose not to be in a toxic relationship- you can't choose where you're born. If so why did you just get born into a rich family lol? weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:53 PM
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Did you read the post orrrrr?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:53 PM
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still a choice to choose that over peace and security. If you get falsely accused or cheated on or divorced down the line that was your choice by this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:50 PM
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still a choice. Why not choose to be single then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:47 PM
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Choosing to date someone vs not is still a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:44 PM
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Actually no where in my original post did I ever claim women have the magical ability to know who will abuse them. Find me one snippet that supports that I'll wait. You chose the whataboutism route and brought it into the discussion- not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:43 PM
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Sure do. There's an equal number of us and even the 1%-ers aren't dating enough of the population to make a significant dent in options so- absolutely. The math is sound. More believable than some grand conspiracy for certain. Why do you keep choosing women that reject you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:40 PM
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"So you processed it but you don't even realise I was not speaking about you. I'm explaining what happens when one doesn't introspect." "You will enter the new relationship, first things that reminds of your ex, you will react instinctively because you never processed your own pain. " That is what the pronoun you typically means- admittedly I skimmed what you wrote, because it was weird and had nothing to do with me and is all some kind of imaginary speculation about what victims endure so I did…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:38 PM
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Do you think when a starving person is desperately eating moldy cheese off the floor, they're thinking about their genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:34 PM
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Still can't answer any of my questions. So you need a relationship or you will die? I don't think that's normal, maybe you should get that checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:29 PM
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"You will enter the new relationship, first things that reminds of your ex, you will react instinctively because you never processed your own pain." Been in a relationship for 3 years. Flattered that you're writing fanfiction about me though lmfao. "I look at me and the dumbest choices I made I understand where they came from and what type of comfort these women that had no right to be in my mind were filling on my psyche." Right and none of them SAed you right? right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:27 PM
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No I know there are people making this argument- but they're wrong and ridiculous and they have nothing to do with the debate at hand. Do you actually think women can magically detect bad men? No? So why are we bringing this up? Should I be assuming you think they're eating dogs and cats in Ohio because a man said it or would that also be unecesary and derailing the topic at hand? You do understand- I and those are separate people right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:25 PM
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To hear their excuses for themselves and ask them why that only applies to them. You don't pick up on sarcasm and arguments for the sake of argument at all do you? "And your strategy for this was to just tell me to log off after I reaffirmed my consistency?" Because you engaging at all is an odd choice if you think everything bad in the realm of dating is by choice. Doesn't make any sense- and points to some cognitive dissonance lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:18 PM
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Oh so you think it's a cruel thing to do? You agree it isn't fair to just blame people for their circumstances even if bad things happen to them out of their control? You agree that blaming victims of SA and DV is wrong also then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:14 PM
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You can still choose between bad relationship and no relationship if you know the relationship is going to be bad- which is what RPers and sexists claim of victims of DV and SA- that's still a choice- and obviously being single is better than being SAed, or hurt, or falsely accused right? So why not choose better and choose to be alone? And how exactly do you know you don't have other choices? What if you're just passing over the right people? You wouldn't know. Dating apps dob't have as many wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:11 PM
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tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:10 PM
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Source? Still didn't answer my question of why shouldn't the "chads" choose better in this hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:09 PM
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Learning to protect yourself from future harm and abuse is not the same as carrying all the culpability of what has been done to you. If a dog bites you, you learn to look for signs in aggression or ask owners before approaching other dogs, but you don't go to the ER for stitches and insist you bit yourself because you just wanted to have a cool scar. And if the person is held liable in court, they put down the dog, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:08 PM
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Because I don't believe all victims chose to be victims, I'm asking the question to engage people who do and pick their brains about how inconsistant that logic is. Obviously lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:05 PM
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It's not a built in creep radar. Incels and chronically online men in particular lack subtly. It's not a supernatural talent, it's literally just hearing them say off kilter things right to our faces. That doesn't mean all misogynists and abusers are this heavy handed- it means guys who haven't touched grass in a couple years and have poor social skills are worse at hiding it. The fact that you took that so literally is probably not a good sign. Still doesn't mean manipulators don't exist just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:03 PM
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seems like an unnecessary stretch just to be included.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:00 PM
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Purple pill is literally defined as being somewhere between red and blue pilled, pink pill is defined as feminist stance that is neither. Are you old enough to be on this site if you don't know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:00 PM
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Why would I engage with your counter argument when you can't even stay on topic about the first one? Doesn't seem like there's a point to debating someone who afraid to answer a simple question regarding their main stance they just presented. Also your statements aren't exactly scientific, there's nothing to refute or argue with. You're insisting men don't have many options and therefore cannot choose but you haven't done anything to validate that, or support the idea that they are pursuing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:58 PM
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Then why do so many posts on here moan and whine about false SA accusations? Why'd you choose to sleep with her then? And why do so many men complain about rejection, why'd you ask her out then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:55 PM
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I did choose. I'm proposing soon. I would say good luck but, mmm I hope you make good choices is all I'll say lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:54 PM
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It's completely relevent. You're arguing men don't have a choice. Answer the question. Refusing to is really showing your hand, you don't wanna make yourself look worse do you? Just answer it, what are you afraid of. Yes. Or. No?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:52 PM
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again, it's a 50/50 number of people, why do some guys keep choosing to date numerous women, don't THEY have too many options?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:51 PM
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what's there to talk about? Choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:50 PM
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Someone you don't know the name of could drug and SA you before you've ever even seen their face just because you happened to be out in public with an exposed drink. And that's a choice but this isn't? use logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:50 PM
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You didn't answer the question. Would you be with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:49 PM
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how is it not? You're purple pill which means a little blue, a little red- make it make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:48 PM
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No tf we don't? Don't know a single woman who says this. This is an absurdist straw man issue. Just because some weirdo with religious psychosis on tiktok claims women have supernatural powers doesn't literally mean all women think that. Seriously if you think we think that you need to touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:47 PM
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that's not how anything works. We're not supernatural creatures. That person is a moron. Also how do you know we have too many options. It's a 50/50 split gender wise. You're just choosing the wrong people clearly. And also do those men keep choosing to date women when they're violent. Why shouldn't they choose better?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:45 PM
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That's not how a source works. So if a conventionally unnatractive female serial killer in jail chooses you, you just gotta be with her then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:44 PM
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then why are you here. Choose better and log off, this subreddit shouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:43 PM
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and women who are SAed do? Explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:42 PM
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source?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:42 PM
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I'm not denying that, I'm asking why stop there? If everyone just chooses every person in their life and how they treat them, why do we even have this subreddit. "incels" should just stop choosing women who don't want them, how did they not smell it a mile away?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:35 PM
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I completely agree, I'm just using this discussion to show how victim blaming is awful and hurts everyone and no one should expect empathy while shitting all over others who are suffering just as much if not more, no matter how special they think they are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:33 PM
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what makes one more obvious than the other or more valid than victims of SA?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:31 PM
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If you personally find most women not worthy of a relationship- don’t date them- it is that simple. More for those that do. 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:22 PM
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It was on true off my chest and was an in detail story. There was no punchline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:41 AM
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I wish I could agree with you but I’ve seen obviously fake pity fuck stories like “I gave my depressed guy friend a blow job to cheer him up” get legit 15k or more upvotes and awards and everything. They seem to love that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:31 AM
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So… you care more about random men having sex than finding a meaningful relationship of your own that isn’t essentially forced and contractual? And just so we’re clear, you’re assuming the sex will keep happening with you even with all these changes to medical treatment and access? What’s stopping a woman from engaging in sex acts that’s aren’t P in V as a preventative measure? What’s stopping a woman from marrying a guy for security, popping out a kid with him and then discontinuing all intimac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:23 AM
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So just so we’re clear, the stance your taking today is people dying is a good thing if it means more women with sleep with what you deem deserving men. People should die. So some dude you sympathize with can get laid? I’m just being certain I understand your priorities and morals here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:18 AM
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Explain to me how feminists don’t return the empathy. Just so we’re clear the lesbian community played an enormous role in providing medical care and nursing for male patients during the aids epidemic because most male doctors refused to go near them. (Look it up.) and despite men being a significant minority group in the number of individuals who have endured sexual violence, progressives and feminists are outspoken about protecting the rights and consent of people of all genders and identities…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:57 AM
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I agree, it’s honestly so weird the way many men weaponize pity to guilt women into sleeping with them and have zero interest in caring about them. It’s just so gross and dishonest and it’s no wonder most women shut down emotionally when conversations about mental health start to turn into a gendered discussion, at this point many of us have built an association with the topic itself and sexual harassment / coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:51 AM
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It’s not a pity fuck if I developed a genuine emotional connection and passionate feelings for someone else due to their willingness to be open and vulnerable. However the superficial men have it hard posts on here certainly seem like a pan handling for pity fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:48 AM
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Or you know it’s really not that deep and just women recognizing they liked a particular guy for the wrong reasons and have realized that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:48 PM
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I really don't care. Live your life. I can dislike you if I recognize that you're a bad person, but I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled to yours. I don't think many women here would argue otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:57 AM
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I mean, idk my bf is definitely winning....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:56 AM
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oooh, this is gunna entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:55 AM
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Every comment is so defensive and avoidant of answering the question, this is such a mess and I’m here for it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:22 PM

And every in between. Im monogamous but I wouldn’t consider myself remotely trad and that’s how I like my men too. Romantic and loyal but progressive and kind
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:19 PM
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Absolutely, even good sex I enjoy can leave me feeling sore / bruised down there and every day sex isn’t often a thing for me purely because my body would be hurting a lot even if I wanted it daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:38 PM
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Communication is key for both partners but ask yourself the last time you’ve seen a woman instruct a man in porn that wasn’t specifically femdom porn. Ask yourself how or what taught them not to tell you what feels good for them, and why they’ve been made to feel their comfort isn’t worth talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:35 PM
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No one understands me the way my bf does. Some people may be shallow enough to see other people that way but no one that actually loves their partner woman or man is so material. No idea what Taylor and Travis’s deal is but they are a very public relationship built on celebrity personas so expecting something deep from that seems a bit silly no?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:53 AM
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Date whoever you want as long as you adhere to some basic ethical guidelines like age of consent and general honestly and acceptance on both sides. People will still have opinions about it regardless but it is a personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:13 PM
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Shallow people are shallow regardless of gender- obsessing over shallow women and insisting they are the reason some people are alone, and targeting the gender rather than ultimately the common mindset of superficialism- won't solve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:02 PM
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Men’s rights are also negatively impacted by patriarchal norms and that part I think is hard for these folks to accept because they enjoy the perceived benefits of it too much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:04 PM
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From what I’ve garnered having been on this sub for too long, it’s not even about how many or how few they sleep with so much as that they get to choose. Most anti feminists are just boiling with rage that women get to choose. They’d rather you be a perfectly chaste virgin waiting for whoever they deem a good guy (typically the most down trodden and lonely men because they are more motivated by pity and sympathy than actual critical thinking and are convinced all the lonely men are always the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:02 PM
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Lol I remember thinking that I found it hard to say who was more attractive to me and then started asking my female friends if they’d ever thought about kissing another girl… I was not straight actually lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 12:22 AM
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Did everyone just fall asleep during history class?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:02 AM
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I feel like if it’s all about mindset than therapy would help
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:53 AM
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Why does this subreddit exist if men being single is always good for them, actually? I’m not saying being single is bad but considering how unhappy the single guys are on here, I’m not seeing it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:52 AM
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Abusers often use abuse as a vice to self regulate- they’re so used to taking their feelings out on someone they don’t know how to live without and will do anything to maintain their grasp on a victim and will be desperate to replace them if they can’t. It’s a common part of narcissistic abuse that the abuser changed tactics when their victim starts slipping away because hurting this person is the only way they know how to regulate their emotions. You let off steam playing video games, these POS…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:36 PM
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No it's not. That simply isn't what the word means in this use case. "the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment." And everyone receives certain things as basic human rights, entitlement is about feeling owed something that others won't willing or consensually give, especially in the circumstances of it not being necessary for human survival which sex provably isn't. Celibate monks have lived long lives, and the same can be said of asexual individuals. Sex isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:19 PM
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Someone consenting to have sex with you isn't entitlement. It's a choice. Someone chooses someone and they agree. So assuming women aren't assaulting men, no they are not entitled because they have access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:15 PM
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Well the way most people do it is someone chooses to love them. And you do have that right and option to choose someone and be chosen just like they do. Just because someone hasn't doesn't mean they can't. Like- I tattoo my skin- I have that same right to my body and my skin as everyone else. But I'm not entitled to hours of labor by a talented artist for free, see that's a thing that belongs to someone else, their energy and time, that I don't get to just take because I want it. And that's how …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:11 PM
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No see, that's what the world entitlement means. It means being owed something from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:09 PM
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Being born with something isn't the same as being entitled to it. It didn't cost anyone else anything unique to give their baby blue eyes, the baby was just born like any other baby and happened to have blue eyes. The problem comes in thinking you are owed something from other people for being born with brown eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:08 PM
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Not really. It's like saying some people are born with blue eyes so I should receive some kind of funding to make my eyes blue to make up for the difference. There are some things that we can't just fix, and some things that we are not owed even if they would be nice to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:30 PM
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"them being allowed to have sex by existing" Everyone that is a consenting adult is allowed to have sex. That's not what entitlement means. Entitlement is "I WANT SEX SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GIVE IT TO ME WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT!". But two people that mutually say "I like you, I want to have sex with you," aren't entitled in the same way that if I baked you a cake you aren't entitled to that cake I'm giving it to you because I want to. ""seeing a relationship as something owed to a person for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:29 PM
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"ordinary people can have relationships by existing." They aren't owed it. Someone chose them. That's how consent works. You can't force love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:19 PM
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The problem lies in treating mental health like a uniquely male problem and seeing a relationship as something owed to a person for existing. Any diagnosis would conjure the same troubles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:03 PM
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“Just reading know she did say” my guy, I do not understand what that means are you genuinely having a stroke, that doesn’t make sense? I did edit the post but i didn’t actually change my initial statements in anyway, just added context I thought was relevant. You don’t take being wrong well do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:57 AM
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I’m all for positive changes to infrastructure that actually help disparately impacted groups without unnecessarily harming the rest. Go for it. Actual change to potentially systematic issues instead of such a heavy focus on access to sex would be a breath of fresh air.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:54 AM
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I’m not offended I was literally not desperate for sex, reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:51 AM
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If the sex itself is so meaningless and unspecial why should I be picky about the person I have it with anyway? Is that desperate or is it weird to be finicky about such an empty act that will happen once and then be over? If it’s casual sex why would you be so picky? It means nothing right? I don’t obsess over the quality of paper that I wipe my butt with, as long as it gets me clean. You wouldn’t call me desperate for tolerating mediocre toilet paper instead holding in my poop to find high qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:44 AM
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I wasn’t desperate for sex, I was mentally ill, isolated, at my lowest, I was offering sex just to feel something. It didn’t work. I chose strangers because everyone felt like a stranger to me anyway so what difference did it make? I did get hit on quite a bit actually, but only for sex, not usually anything more. It was randos not because I was desperate but because why would I have sex with someone I like and want something more with? It’d mess everything up if they saw me as casual only after…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:34 AM
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I'm just not sexually attracted to nonromantic circumstances personally, but I get where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:34 PM
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The only time I've ever bothered with fuck boys and casual flings was at my very lowest and felt entirely unlikable and probably would have taken just about anyone. I don't remember their names or faces, I don't feel anything when I try to think of them, and most never were spoken to again after a one night stand. If I could skip over that part of my life to the part where I met my bf of 3 years I would. And he didn't withold commitment from me for sex. He was happy to wait. Make of that what yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:32 PM
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do you have evidence to support that? You don't know anything about us
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:01 PM
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And what is your take on men who date convicts and criminals- that this is supposed proof a man can never be lied to or manipulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:37 PM
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I messaged him silly memes every day, asked to see him first before he asked me, made it clear I was looking for something serious, dressed up really cutesy in dresses and little outfits for all our first dates and surprised him every time, kissed him eagerly the first time he asked if he could kiss me. Yes definitely, women that are into you can be forward I’m tired of the nonsense that we won’t be. Though I do want to mention that it does surprise me that women are more timid than men when app…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:05 AM
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I mean no because it’s not always quirky and the halo effect doesn’t often save me. I grew up the weird kid and still make people uncomfortable a lot and many find it unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:00 PM
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No, a lot of the self improvement came a year or so after we were already together but having problems in our relationship and it was something we both committed to. I would definitely say I’m ND to the point of being off putting and weird even as an adult. I don’t read others emotions well, I’m often told that everyone knows something or I should just know something that I don’t, and I’ve definitely made people uncomfortable before trying to befriend them or romance them without releasing- thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:10 PM
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I’m super anti the incels and the RP and all of it but even I have to agree, if all hope is lost and nothing can be done- why do incels make such a scene of it like something can be changed by doing that- if what they say is true and it’s all human nature, what’s the point? And on the other end as a person who is involved on this subreddit why do I care? I think either side wants more people to empathize with their point of view for that feeling of validation and catharsis as no matter which sid…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:16 AM
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Both of us have pretty severe ADHD- like really forgetful, bad at doing basic adult things, find most jobs horribly stressful and overwhelming, though mine is arguably worse than his. I struggled more socially growing up, had almost no friends for most of my life, while he was class president on a whim because his friends thought it would be a cool thing to do (he insists he was deeply lonely and not popular but like- come on!) Both of us have a struggle with depression, anxiety, and a history o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:59 AM
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Okay but say this traditional wife or angel of the house does become a supposed fat hag shortly after marriage- you're sticking to it? for decades, the rest of your life maybe, because she was a virgin when you married her? Just curious because the use of the phrase fat hag very much implies you don't approve of fat or aging women so it makes me wonder why marry at all, if it bothers you so much? I mean perhaps she stays thin forever, which is hard to maintain but not impossible I guess if she l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:47 AM
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I mean, me and partner are both neurodivergent though- what do you think it is that would make the difference there for some people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:23 AM
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Okay curious here! lots of women have mental health dianosis, would they not want to date someone who has one so that they can feel understood? Or what's your take on that? As far as the hair one, you mentioned wig- but like, what happens if the girl he's seeing finds out it's a wig? Or is more the aesthetic of the thing than trying to deceive anyone. I know personally I'd prefer my partner bald over a toupe but idk Also is it for a relationship or are these just requirements to hook up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:19 AM
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So of your goal is marry a skinny young woman, will you divorce her if she doesn’t age gracefully or stay thin? Just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:52 AM
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Aren’t you somewhat glad in a way that women aren’t basically just pets to be looked after though? Wouldn’t it be so dull and challenging to care for and provide for something that is as you say innocent and delicate like a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:32 AM
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Do you think there is an exact definition of attractive in this case? and if so could you give me your explanation of what that means for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:23 PM
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Another commenter described it as sort shifting back into what he sees as a fantasy as a way of coping with what he feels is reality- so maybe that? I'm interested in what changed in those phases, and what might have motivated the changes. Can you tell me what RP beliefs you may have adjusted and in what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:21 PM
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Curious, are you still with your girlfriend? This is the kind of nuanced take I was hoping to explore, I'd like to hear more
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:20 PM
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I'm not sure I'm well versed. What is the cosmic horror if you could elaborate? So far what I understand of red pill is just the idea that most people are deeply deeply shallow and this idea that you have to be near perfect to attract a woman. That's sad yes, but cosmic horror? am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:19 PM
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There's a good chance you haven't met your people. I didn't find mine for some time. As an adult it can be especially hard to find those connections. But worth it when you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:16 PM
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That was not my point remotely but if a person were to take their own life due to believing they can’t change or resolve their loneliness, than there would be no telling what life they could have lived had they survived, so yes I would say that doesn’t prove they were right. Statistics suggest less than 1% of people live to 65 as virgins. And that is not accounting for how many are asexual, or significantly cognitively impaired to the point that sex wouldn’t be appropriate for them. More than 1%…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:36 PM
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If you can show me one case of a person actually enduring that, explicitely with scientific evidence that it was not by choice, not due to a poor personality or any other quality, or that they didn't die young, then I'd concede that there is one person who endured it. It still would not be nearly enough to argue to it common for men- not remotely. If such a thing is this common it should be easy to prove with case studies and documentation. Find me one case. One.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:24 PM
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"men that women collectively cannot be attracted to" to be frank I just don't really believe that. And there are a lot of people who don't subscribe to that. If this is a fact there should be evidence for it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:02 PM
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Have any sources to support that this is genuinely a permanent condition?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:44 PM
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"And you look up how many babies have been killed by their mothers. As you see I can tell you things like that as well." Before or after birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:21 PM
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but did it get more men laid and in relationships? Did it raise birthrates? Did it increase the number of people getting married? Did it decrease the number of male virgins? Did you get what you wanted from us, or just make women hate you more?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:16 PM
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You can be two things at the same time- what he did is considered to most to be a form of violent or extreme protest, with it still being a politically charged act with purpose and meaning, though through fairly brutal means. "Deny Defend Depose" and his infamous manifesto are more than enough evidence that his crimes were motivated by greater unrest and economic challenges. We also know that he was denied health care for a very serious and painful condition and suffered for some time before com…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:55 PM
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Just look up how many women have been killed by their partners. Yikes, “Rachet feminists” that’s gunna be a rule breaker for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:02 PM
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I’ve only recently seen the phrase gender war crop up and it seems like a trending term used to treat the current gender political circumstances as a mutually inflicted issue. As many others have put it, men have started calling it a gender war instead of the male loneliness epidemic because they’re losing said war and now want to put their white flags while pretending we’re both at fault for starting it in the first place. In reality the manosphere intentionally formulated a wide spread phenome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:53 PM
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I think a lot of worse things can happen especially considering your exclusion is not a permanently enforced state but often a temporary problem while you find your people- I would know I spent 7 years single after a traumatic break up not for a lack of trying but because my mental health made me difficult to love, to trust, to like at times and I was not ready to heal. I was rejected, used, discarded, you name it, because of my emotional unavailability. It is hard- but it is temporary if you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:46 PM
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On the contrary I think analyzing the legitimacy of someone’s stance and the reason for debating it- is a valid contribution to a debate especially when that individual has openly acknowledged that they rage baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:41 PM
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Not trying to. I use the sub for what it’s supposed to be for, actually
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:27 PM
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Do you think it’s possible that there are other factors involved in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:24 PM
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Payback is not a justification for crimes against humanity and also why only the women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:22 PM
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Guess we know what you use it for it. So who’s condescending and disingenuous then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:20 PM
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I literally don’t care as a feminist we want you to give a shit about real problems that you can fix rather than berating us and guilt tripping us for sympathy and weaponizing to silence our own movement. Feminists are not remotely opposed to better education for men or healthcare reform. Look at the response most progressives had to Luigi
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:18 PM
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Exactly. The economy and political challenges is their biggest threat, not access to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:15 PM
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Because there is no exact formula to attracting someone into wanting to be with you. What would work on one person wouldnt work on another and it’s worth mentioning that simply molding yourself to be what someone wants is inauthentic and most of us want sincerity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:14 PM
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Why do you want access to sex from someone who doesn’t want you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:29 PM
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Socialism doesn’t require sex slavery. These two things have nothing to do with each other, you’re not making any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:47 AM
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How would these benefits thus far not also help men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:47 AM
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Dating someone or sleeping with them solely for resources is prostitution. That’s what that means. No one cares what flair you use, the terms of your proposal are exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:56 AM
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Do they? Will you die the same way you’d starve and wither away without food or water? How so? Source? Why do only men need this? What does because I’m a woman mean? What about being a woman makes a difference? Elaborate. And? Source that proves that claim? So forcing people to date someone they don’t want is the solution- explain how forcing relationships would be a good thing? Explain how having someone tolerate your presence the same way youd tolerate a retail job is going to do anything for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:55 AM
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How would you turn that into a kind of currency? Charge by the hour? If I just tolerate being around a man does that count? How would you write up an employment contract for it exactly? What if I give all the appearances of a relationship but have no interest in the person and have my own relationship with someone I really love and wasn’t forced to be with to survive, does that not count? And why not? What determines what is worthy for bare minimum resources? If dating is for resources and survi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:49 AM
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Sure, if it didn’t otherwise affect our friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:47 AM
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Elaborate on “giving men what they want” what does that look like for you? Widespread prostitution of all women just for the bare necessities? What are you really saying here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:33 AM
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Why can’t we as a society focus on providing for those needs of individuals regardless of gender without there being some kind of demand of sexual and romantic favors in exchange? If I can survive with my fundamental needs met even if I am lonely, why is that not a better outcome for you and the rest as well? And you do realize that working 40 hours a week to afford to exist means you have very little time to bond with or connect with others right? There’s a very good chance that the redistribut…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:32 AM
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If I can’t obtain the resources needed to survive such as food, a home, medical help, I will die. If I cannot find a person who fits my emotional and sexual needs I will have a hard time, but if I still have access to rest including therapy, I will survive. It makes sense. Being alone and without a support network is hard, there is no doubt about it- but not being to afford food on my table, a bed to lay in, and a dentist to keep my teeth from rotting in my head, is a lot harder. Plus we can red…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:24 PM
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And this is why birth rates are still declining, women are marrying older and older, and men as single as they’ve ever been. The mindset that communication is a battle to win, where you are always right and just want defeat someone and feel superior, rather than a way of actually understanding each other, has resulted in women pulling away from men en mass. If you aren’t willing to illustrate your point you can’t communicate. Relationships are built on communication and here you can’t even manag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:25 AM
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See but you do because that’s how that works. You made a claim now you have to present evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:27 AM
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“Still report being in relationships twice as often as men” it’s almost like men think commitment is something to be ashamed of and often insist on being FWBs or on the low down more often, creating a disparity in self reports on who is with who.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:54 PM
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The rest of it is just insisting there is no research on this issue due lack of funds or resources but that is certifiably false. We have endless research on human psychology, biology and the processing of empathy and none of it supports your claim. You cannot hide behind the excuse of a lack of resources. Sometimes I don’t waste my precious time engaging in arguments that hold no water, doesn’t mean I don’t notice or skim them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:49 PM
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I mean yeah the thing is if I asked for a source that water is wet you could find one instead rant and throw a fit on the internet. So where is the source? If it’s also well known as water is wet, it should be pretty easy, so why are you having such hard time?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:42 PM
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The thing is that there are thousands of sources that racism exists, it is incredibly easy to prove and yet you’d rather throw a fit than find one piece of evidence to this claim… so tell me how one is just as true as the other lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:41 PM
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Again, Source? All we have for a basis of this is your feelings, by that logic any kind of extremist is just as valid as you are because that’s how the world felt to them, whether it was real or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:30 PM
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And that substantiates this claim how? And that should be taken as fact why? And that compares to women’s experiences dating how? This is not how real scientific data is determined. It’s an incredibly weak basis for any belief. This is the kind of logic that could suggest that if you ask every guy at the con if spider man is real then I guess that proves he is. Any person that cares about being knowledgeable instead of biased and ignorant would use more data than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:23 PM
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Pretty big claim there, source? Need I remind you a woman created you with her body…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:18 PM
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She got one-itis and was lonely and quite mentally Ill. What she did was weird and unethical but her friends were AI bots, I don’t know that it’s so unrelatable to a lot of men on here. Regardless of her problematic character which she is, my point is the idea that women don’t get rejected or have unreciprocated feelings is a myth. Also most men don’t worry about being violently assaulted or murdered on their dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:34 AM
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I think there’s too much focus on the superficial qualities that determine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:07 PM
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I think there's a balance to be had but I definitely look at my old exes and the lack of effort they made to look good for special events and it certainly helps to put it a little effort and of course just practice hygeine, bathe regularly, wear something scented even if it's just a decent deodorant, groom yourself, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:16 PM
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Idk I don’t think most progressive minded people agree with even that. My bf has been sexually assaulted in the past and i take that shit very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:02 PM

I've been arguing that this entire time, and no we don't because you've been insisting that it is women's fault for "rewarding" shit men for falling for them rather those awful men for doing awful things, continuously- ala the post- which is just wrong. If you've changed your mind though to something rational like bad people are responsible for doing bad things, good for you for coming to your senses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:01 PM

no. I think shit men are responsibile for fixing themselves, and should stop crying on the internet for pity instead going to therapy. And if you think that despite mental health being overall stigmatized and the health care of some nations being in absolute crisis, that somehow your mental health is special and deserves pity fests on the internet because you're male, you're an entitled bad person and should go to therapy to unpack your victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:55 PM

"We aren't saying women are responsible for making men good people" "bad men have zero incentive to change as long as there are willing women out there. " make it make sense dude. If women aren't responsible than the only ones that are to blame for being awful people are themselves. Also loving someone isn't some kind of reward for being a good or bad person, it's just a thing that happens sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:49 PM

Do you think it’s possible you just wanted to brag about your relationship on a forum of people who are often mentally unwell and desperately lonely? I mean by all means, celebrate your happiness. But in that case is this really a debate about how others should conduct themselves or a ploy for attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:14 PM
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Accurate!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:42 AM

Sure but for what they feel are important social movements, but why do you feel all women should cook for their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:40 AM
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Because your moral compass and mental health is your responsibility. It’s part of being an individual. Men aren’t a monolith but when they argue as individuals that women are to blame for not molding them into better people such as this post, they’re avoiding accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:37 AM
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Why do you want to spread your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:52 AM
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Why is it women’s job to make men into better people instead of their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:42 AM
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Why would you be bothering her with this anyhow? Besides with the regime you’ve got going, I’m sure she’s too busy meal prepping and cooking anyhow right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:32 AM
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I don’t see why we all have to partake in the same gender roles as you do. Also saying “I care because they care” doesn’t seem like a fair response. Why do you care what they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:31 AM
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I didn’t say any of that…. You did. This sounds like a personal preference for a relationship though, why do you care to debate it on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:57 AM
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You can’t force someone to give you their entire life purely through rizz. In actuality they have to be sincerely looking for that level of sacrifice and willing to give it to you. Furthermore I wouldn’t want a partner that wants to me marry me on sight. That isn’t love. People trolling on here that I’m wrong for saying a meaningful connection is rare or hard to come by no matter the gender maybe haven’t felt that degree of love before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:18 AM
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Currently in a wonderful long term relationships, I still had to meet a lot of unkind noncommittal shallow men to find him. I’m glad you were lucky. Sometimes the first person you come across happens to be the best one. Sometimes you aren’t shaped by past traumas to be used to abuse in the future. Just because something comes easily to you doesn’t mean you should be unempathetic to others or pretend misogyny and the general objectification of women don’t play a role in their lives even if you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:16 AM
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How so? Are you saying you’d seriously commit to someone you barely know effortlessly and quickly while knowing nothing about them, especially in a culture where men are praised for having a variety of casual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:15 AM
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This is obvious bait. Have you found this person yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:11 AM
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absolutely. Serious relationships with meaningful connections are rare and hard to find regardless of if you are more likely to be sexualized and objectified for your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:55 PM
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I agree, as long there is no insincerity at the start about those expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:02 AM

You do know if someone genuinely wants to manipulate you into a financially abusive relationship, they’ll likely do so in stages gradually while earning your trust right? It’s a long con, if a woman wanted to do that she would definitely be smart enough to agree to go Dutch on the first date to give the impression of being more egalitarian and independent than she is. Most women interested in a sugar baby type relationship in a non-abusive or controlling way, will be pretty up front about it. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:00 AM
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I feel like this belongs more on r/iam14andthisisdeep if we’re being honest
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:56 AM
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Exceedingly easy to get sleazy hook ups maybe, finding someone ready to commit as a life partner to you? Not really no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:55 AM
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Yes. I agree, though I’ve had a good number of rejections or even awkward misunderstandings with guys who were taken as I didn’t know it at the time. If there was any advice I’d give my younger self on dating, it would be to not spend forever secretly pining on a crush, to just make your move when you feel a spark, take the no gracefully and move on. Instead I’d really get hung up on someone and delay telling my feelings to them until I was in too deep and the rejection hit a lot harder. But wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:52 AM
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The hive mind concept isn’t real. We’re individuals. This isn’t new information. Why are we acting like this is the craziest news in the world? Isn’t this basic human psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:50 PM
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"melting the fuck down" You used more swears than I have on this entire exchange. You sure about that? I'm just asking questions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:37 AM
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How? Explain that. It’s…. Embarrassing to find dehumanizing language about women unfunny?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:57 PM
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I really want you to sit with this one for a minute, okay. Any reason for a break up is a good reason. Because wanting to break up- is all the reason a person should need. They don’t want to be with you. You can’t force them. Why would you want that? To force someone who is unhappy to be with you? Who cares if many women initiate divorce? If they didn’t there would be just as many posts on here complaining that wives stop giving their best in marriage after a certain time and are cruel for stayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:55 PM
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Oh I’ve totally done this and the opposite SO MANY TIMES. You really gotta be direct sometimes!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:39 PM
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Only if you’re deeply shallow and into something so artificial. Otherwise it would be like any other break up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:12 PM
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No. I found my person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:10 PM
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Neither do we. People choose to protect who they love. It isn’t anyone’s job and idk any woman who thinks it is unless she’s reaaaal old school and right wing. It’s mostly RPers that insist women are privileged because they actually think we expect them to dive in front of a bullet for them. Because while “FeMiNiStS aRe RuInInG moVies aNd ViDeo GamEs” by wanting strong female characters and while self defense weapons are popular among women somehow they supposedly also expect men to protect them…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:03 PM
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They always assume and they’re always off base like I never just point at people and make up vivid fan fictions about their life with nothing to go off of because they’d tell me I’m wrong and I have basic human decency and shame. Is it a kink to be wrong about women for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:42 AM
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Andddddd? Your point is? That’s not an exact recipe. I mean if you act like a repulsive asshole then yes, your odds are not great. It’s still not a magic recipe. You could do and say all the things my bf did when he met me for example and another woman would probably not be interested. I’m a liberal leftist and child free. Lots of women want children. I alarmed that this needs to be said. This logic shouldn’t surpass a certain grade level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:11 AM
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irony and sarcasm still require an effective conveyance of an opposing stance or belief. The way you've worded this is unconvincing. The fact that I'm not the only one completely unimpressed by your paragraphs about loving your wife speaks to how poorly you wrote that. It's not funny, it doesn't work, there's nothing clever or entertaining about it. It's just having a laugh at dehumanizing language. How much can you love or seriously care about a person when you think misogyny is funny? This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:14 PM
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elude to....? Where's the joke? "or" is a joke? the comma symbol is a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:08 PM
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Exactly, where's the funny part? Explain to me how it's funny to refer to women as objects like "younger models" or mock your wife for ageing now the problematic treatment of women's ageing. I'll wait. Tell me how that's funny. ( Also thanks captain obvious, if I didn't understand the phrase I wouldn't have explicitly asked you what was so funny. )
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:04 PM
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Where's the funny part?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:59 PM
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I would consider myself neither privileged nor ignorant. On the notion of a "spark" and having no further explanation, no one is pretending the specific elements surrounding meeting their partner/crush don't matter or play their role. Read a romance novel. Key elements of the situation clearly play a role in the character's feelings. Women aren't unacquainted with that. The reason why women's advice appears vague is because humans are insanely unique people. Think about the fact that a lot of ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:57 PM
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*never* paid *never* valued? Bit hyperbolic- the entire scenario described in this post could still happen with a person who was perhaps paid or valued on some level- but not on the level they deserve or need.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:38 PM
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This might be one of the realest things I've ever read on this sub. And the comments show that so many people are in denial of this being the case. And I roll my eyes at the number of comments comparing this to black pill rhetoric as black pill rhetoric is so often based on the 1% scenario, where these situations are tragically extraordinarily common.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:30 PM
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"big 30 next year" " younger model" uhuh...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:28 PM
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care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:23 PM
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because I'm a leftist and I also don't want to pay for some rando's child if they can provide and simply refuse to while still wanting parental rights of that child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:04 PM
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This is a wannabe super villain origin story
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:07 AM

Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:07 AM
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What most people on here consider positive attention can still be very dehumanizing. Most the attention I get is just treating me like a fleshlight for sale. They don’t care about me as a person, don’t even see me as an individual with feelings, just something to fuck and use. Calling that positive attention is like calling incessant adverts from scammers trying to get your money positive attention. Often the same men who want to use me for my body will degrade me and demean me. Positive attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:14 PM
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Mmm I don’t know. For me personally I grew up the weird kid no one liked. I know being awkward or weird is not a sign someone is a bad person. But when a person rants about their want to get with a woman and shows that sort of desperation for just any female shamed entity, it gets icky fast because they don’t seem to care at all about knowing another human, just wanting access to something they’re sexually attracted me. It’s not the loneliness or social outcast issue that unsettles me, it’s the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:31 PM
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You sound young. I’d recommend you seek higher education to expand your horizons if you really care to understand this type of thing. I don’t think we’re really getting anywhere with your current perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:09 PM
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Is sexual assault a loss of virginity? Do oral / fingers count? Does lesbian sex count? What changes exactly? Source on what actually changes after sex other than the social belief that one has experienced some sort of right of passage? Are you a virgin? If not can you explain what actually altered your brain chemistry after having sex the first time in a way that almost having sex or planning to have sex with a consenting party wouldn’t have, or masturbation for that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:51 PM
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Take your pick. “Virginity” isn’t even real. There is no scientific way to prove it. Also, 3 or 4 is not a lot unless you’re one of those weirdos obsessed with purity. I’m probably well below average at my age lmao and content with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:44 PM
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No I would say I hooked up with maybe 3 or 4 different people total. Again, it was always at my lowest. I don’t see why this is relevant. N count is pure pseudo science anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:03 PM
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I’m planning on marrying my bf. He’s hot, funny, caring, gentle, loving, clever. He gets me on a different level and he’s great in bed. I explicitly held off on sex to be sure we were on the same page and ready for it, he wanted that too. It isn’t complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:38 PM
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I’ve always been intimidated by DND as it seems a bit complicated and the idea of involving that many people makes me socially anxious. But we do play magic the gathering together and paint 3D prints and DND mini figures for his campaigns.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:16 PM
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yeah just a saying like "dude" or "bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 12:28 AM
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It's just not true dawg. I'm "mid", chubby with bright pink hair and lip ring. Half these guys are intense about alt being unnatractive and plenty more want their women as thin as a kpop model. I've dated real irl men who would tell me at some point that my body was just "alright" and I was "nothing special" or they'd sleep with someone hotter if they got the chance (of course this culminated in a break but STILL) I was very much a loser to these people. You're talking out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 12:26 AM
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People are individuals is the thing. We’re not a hivemind, the people upvoting clearly feel the same way. Some people are shallow, tell me something I don’t know. Some people clearly arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:03 PM
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I’ve gotten quite a few disgusting messages commenting on my weight and appearance and mocking me, particularly when I was single and struggling to find someone that wanted a long term connection. I’ve been called everything under the sun by bitter strangers on the internet. When it comes to those vile comments they don’t usually appear in this sub because the mods take them down. But as a woman they are constant. Though I will say it doesn’t surprise me how clueless most men online are about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:53 PM
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I don’t think they’re better at it, just more willing to do it. Men more commonly get diagnosed with conditions like narcissism and there is some evidence that men are raised and conditioned to be more selfish and unempathetic to others. Manipulation isn’t about smarts like some people may think. Studies find even our pets are capable of manipulating us to get treats or preferred outcomes based on positive or negative behaviors. Being a manipulator doesn’t make you some kind of genius. The main …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:20 PM
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To me a “loser” isn’t a man who is poor or a man who is awkward or lonely or shy, socially. Being a loser is to be a person who is wildly immature, selfish, chooses to gamble or borrow from friends and abuse substances to get by. It’s a lifestyle with a variety of bad choices involved. It doesn’t have to do with the way he looks in standing with others, it has to do with his total lack of stability and refusal to change or heal as a person. I don’t think most women actually care what their frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:12 PM
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The only one accountable for sexual assault and domestic violence are sexual assailants and domestic abusers. And the only one hurt by their lies and manipulations being believed are the people themselves that believe them. Why are you so angry about something you have nothing to do with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:36 PM
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Stupid? I don’t agree. More often vulnerable to manipulation tactics due to social conditioning and a history of trauma, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:51 PM
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Nope. No. Monogamy is the right path for me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:36 PM
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"So often, women will meet and hookup with attractive men and BELIEVE that she can actually date him." Actually none of the men I hooked up with even come close to my bf. They were often desperate and in a bit of a low place themselves to be wanting to meet some absolute stranger on a whim that night, as was I at the time. If I found a guy really attractive or special, I would want to take my time getting to know him and not mess things up by rushing for a hook up. So I've never looked at a hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:13 AM
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Yeah so much of the supposed evidence to support this idea that women are excruciatingly frigid and picky towards male partners, is just gotcha style studies, engineered to force women into the role of judging others based on the most shallow qualities. The results are obviously significantly biased. So many arguments about women’s sexuality being lesser and passionless in comparison to men’s supposed hopeless pining, is determined in scenarios where there is intentional reduction of meaningful …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:30 PM
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It’s not as straightforward as you would think. I’ve almost dated entirely dorky guys as I am a geeky woman. I am sad to say that sometimes these men seem to bank on being perceived as innocent and nerdy as a way to Trojan horse a fuck ton of toxic shit into a relationship. “He’s just a shy awkward guy, he didn’t mean it like that” is the kind plausible deniability they take advantage of. Considering how this post is written, there’s a good chance you dismiss your own toxicity or friends’ worst …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:16 PM
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There’s a lot going on here but I wanted to address the initial premise of picking attractive people out of a line up of random folks. If you reread my comment I talk about psychological associations and how they alter the way we see people. But these are strangers in this scenario where there are no connections or associations to be had, no memories, no knowledge of their character, no opportunity to know if they have an adorable laugh, or a charming special talent,so forth. In this greatly sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:26 AM
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A few things. There’s no such thing as objective beauty. Different people are attracted to different things. Also familiarity plays a role in what we find beautiful or comforting. If you see someone’s face enough times, an association is formed with their appearance and the memories or emotions you’ve had with them, regardless of how they look. If at first you find someone dull, your perception of them can evolve as you adjust to their quirks, their mannerisms. You will look at someone entirely …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:34 AM
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99% of people who live to their 30s have had sex at least once and by 60 to percentage of people that are still virgins is almost zero. Some finding one or more sexual / romantic connections is so likely it is almost an inevitability, actually
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:22 AM
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I genuinely just want a good and decent person. Being tall or rich or exceptionally good looking wouldn’t make a person tolerable long term for me on its own. He would still need to be a good and decent person or I’d entirely lose interest due to the way he’d handle conflicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:03 AM
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BECAUSE EVERYONE SHOULD TRY TO BE A DECENT PERSON WHAT ARE YOU A SUPER VILLIAN?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:59 AM
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You replied to my comment... do you know how that works orrr..... ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:06 PM
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I stated 0 of those things. You pulled all of them out of the air to reinforce your own mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:04 AM
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I'd argue the blue pill or "normie" mindset is just: Love is a very complicated thing to find and maintain but your best bet is to treat each other as equal human beings, be open minded, and if you're lucky you just might find it. The average person understands great people can still struggle to find love, that luck and complex social dynamics play a big role but that being bitter and chauvinistic about it won't make anything better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:55 AM
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"no presumption of innocence when accused of DV or SA" 1 in 3 women is sexually assaulted. Most women never go to court because of how difficult this is to prove. There is an estimate chance of the accusation being false and that is less than 5%. 30% of women are actually raped. Less than 5% of people of either gender, are falsely accussed. You cannot seriously be dense enough to see these issues as remotely equal in value right? I also would like to put it this way. Most rapists don't like to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:12 PM
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"Right to genital integrity, paternity rights for the first few week (mother can put child up for adoption without father consent), lack of DV, SA, Rape and other resources. Literally most countries define rape in such a way to exclude male victimes or female perpetrators, most men who call the police as victims DV get arrested themselves, no presumption of innocence when accused of DV or SA. Many more exist? Should ai give you a mens issues masterpost?" Sigh. Circumcision is a problematic opera…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:12 PM
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“Exterominated” ummm that’s not a word and any case they certainly haven’t been. Again, sexual assault is very common but the perpetrators are almost always not some random stranger. Also provide a single source that supports women initiate domestic violence and are in any way at fault for being murdered by their spouse and partners. Even one source to support your claim, I’ll wait. Name a protection women have that doesn’t apply to men. Go on. What is the point then? Elaborate on that. Be speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:29 PM
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Protection how? If something dangerous happens I’m calling the police. There are endless examples of women carrying self defense weapons as well. Protection from who? From what? Is the average woman at risk of being mugged on the street? Have you ever been mugged, kidnapped, attacked by a stranger? The majority of assaults and physical violence towards women is from the hands of their partner. The primary suspect for a murdered woman is typically the husband because of how common it is. So prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:51 PM
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Explain to me in detail how you’re expected to serve women in ways that span beyond normal boundaries we all owe to one another such as respecting rejection and physical boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:25 PM
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This feels like an enormous misunderstanding of what us actually being said about masculinity and boundaries, coming from an emotionally immature place of having never challenged your own world view and fearing any change even the positive kind because it involves working on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:19 PM
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This is such a great way of putting it with the whole “it’s just biology” excuse. Assigning animalistic thinking to humans who are very much capable of more sophisticated morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:32 AM
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Mostly because of trauma and the way it rewires victims to feel attraction to people that remind them of their first abuser, often their parent or guardian. There’s substantial research on it but often times it starts in the home with their caretaker’s mistreatment, which instills in them low self esteem and a certain tolerance even comfort derived from Ill tempered and moody people. It’s subconscious. Considering 1 in 4 girls will be sexually abused before they’re even an adult, and there are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:31 AM
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They have nothing else in common, she talks a lot about his fitness or whatever hobbies he has that make him more attractive but has zero interest in anything else he likes to do or is interested in, a general vibe like they don't get along and just tolerate each other or don't enjoy being around each other
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:47 PM
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Probably not because I don’t think we’d be compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:56 PM
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I found a wonderful committed long term relationship with an atheist. You do not have to go to church to find a man that is decent but if religiosity doesn’t bother you and you’re open minded do whatever you want I suppose. Religious traditional men often are uptight, adhering to steadfast gender roles, and often expecting their partner to birth and raise a bunch of kids. So I know it isn’t for me. On the other side of things, many religious people infamously have a problem of practicing what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:46 AM
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I have been there myself. I can empathize
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:14 PM
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I don’t know any woman who isn’t like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:14 PM
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Yes. We’ll be in it together. I’d work with him to find more sustainable ways to survive, such as growing our own food and potentially living off the land, so forth. It wouldn’t be easy, but I’d rather have nothing than not have him. Just because you’ve never loved like that doesn’t mean everyone else is just as superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:15 PM
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I don’t know any women who wouldn’t do the same. I know a women who stood by her man as he died slowly of cancer and has continued to step up and raise both her biological child but also his two children from a previous marriage, after he has passed as a single mother. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t prioritize meaningful relationships over petty and superficial benefits. Bad people exist but to say they’re the majority is just absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:14 PM
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Right? I read this and was like “woah, thanks for reminding me how out of touch and unreal this part of the internet can be, that’s it I’m touching grass” and the other comments engaging in this bizarre unsubstantiated rant? Like what?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:01 PM
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I’d 100% rather choose my person as a destitute man than some insufferable rich a hole and certainly over cutting my life short.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:58 PM
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Truly my bf could be homeless and I’d put clothes on his back without a second thought. Money is so boring, shallow, empty and beauty fades as we all age and change. But the core components that make him him, his personality, his sense of humor, irreplaceable. This is such an extreme, reductive understanding of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:56 PM

Sexual compatibility is a thing and it does go beyond the basics, but I don't think you have to necesarily give it a trial run as soon as possible to test it out. It should start with honest communication back and forth when both people express being comfortable with it. I. E. "where are you comfortable being touched" etc. I do think that some people weaponize sexual compatibility to prioritize sex above all else in a relationship and that's fucking wild tbh. If nothing else in a relationship ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:02 AM
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I think it's very hard to develop any sincere feelings for someone if the connection starts as a form of using each other, the ability to build trust with a person who wants to inherently use you without feeling for sexual fullfilment is a lot harder. I'm not saying casual sex is cruel or evil, it can be perfectly fine and consensual, but it rarely builds the foundations of safety, intimacy and trust that many people need or want to have serious feelings for each other. Think of it like renting …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:53 PM
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It can happen I’m sure but I think the people that do have considerably low self esteem, and I cannot imagine the romantic feelings they have for a FWB are comparable to that of a relationship. And again, a casual non exclusive thing means a lot of the best things in sex are typically off the table. Have you had a casual thing or relationship sex to compare? Porn can make casual hook ups look like an all you can eat buffet with no downsides. Real casual sex is a lot more complicated. At least if…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:54 AM
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Only if that is your goal. I can tell you for certain have never desired anyone as much as I do my boyfriend and I have hooked up before. The hook ups at the time were almost completely random, just a case as is with most men of being lonely, frustrated and thinking “I’d take any company right now, you’ll do”. I didn’t enjoy it, end up not seeing any of them again and it left me feeling empty. The sex was always subpar and I always held back from doing all the fun stuff I like to do in the bedro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:00 AM
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What hobbies would you say you connect with other men better on?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:32 AM
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would you say then that you're a fairly stereotypical one dimentional man that fits neatly into the cookie cutter definition of one? a man's man that only likes manly things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:09 AM
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why not just avoiding people in general who don't empathize with or click with you regardless of gender? Why does it have to be sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:42 AM
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Sorry to hear that, do you mind sharing what they did?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:58 PM
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Circumcision. Total violation of human rights and autonomy to do that to an infant, and the supposed medical benefits are minimal at best. Consent is clearly not provided, and the reason for it often aesthetic which is gross to me. If a man told me he felt violated by his parents for doing that to his infant body, I’d completely agree and argue that the systematic nature of this violation where I live, needs to be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:52 PM
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I’m sterile and in a wonderful monogamous relationship, there is no need. My darling would never cheat and we are both STI free and healthy so, I personally prefer it regardless as it feels the most intimate, but for us it’s also a perfectly safe choice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:50 PM
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Totally valid but I think in relationships where the other person is unwilling to do their part, they will just fall apart when the other stops doing it. I’m not saying that’s bad but it will be the likely end result.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:35 PM
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I could engage with this patently false and ignorant narrative but I don’t care to, it isn’t worth the energy. Five seconds of scrolling on this subreddit alone would show you solid examples of this logical fallacy in action. To deny this is to refuse to look at all easily accessible evidence and exercise blind ignorance when it benefits you, with a boost of confidence and hyperbolic certainty. I’m not interested in interacting with this limited black and white thinking, plainly. I recommend get…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:26 AM
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Woman here, I don't disagree, there is a natural element to this that is notable, we're just all still fairly unique and diverse, and it's more of a general thing to be aware of rather than a hard and fast rule, or objective truth. It's like saying most men are physically stronger than women, like yes- but it isn't always true, it isn't as dramatically different as you think, and it isn't an stagnant unchanging factor. It's not as black and white as one would think, but it is generally something…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:55 AM
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It’s definitely an unfortunate and complicated vice heavily encouraged to many men. I think like any vice the positives are short terms but the negatives can be long term so the key is always balance. I think if you can recognize that you feel detached from the real world because of your porn use or can detect the way it tends to increase when your mental health is especially low, it’s important to make an effort to self reflect, understand your ability to log off, or seek resources for addictio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:09 AM
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To me it really depends on what the word resources means to the person. It could be money, it could be time, space, energy, transportation- a million other valid reasons. If a person needs to look after themselves first I fully support that. If a person is surviving but not rich, but has the time to spend with another and the ability to treat them well emotionally and so forth, I don’t think most women see a problem there at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:03 AM
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Can you elaborate on this? I’m curious how exactly the suggestion that no one is entitled to love or sex is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 06:43 AM
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My boyfriend is not replaceable to me. There a million other people out there but none of them are like him. Just because I could date someone else, does mean they'd be remotely who is right for me. There are probably plenty of men that would want me for one night, or in superficial transactional relationship where my only value is my looks and whatever other benefits and means I bring to the table, but they wouldn't love me and accept me the way that he does, they wouldn't support me through th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:49 AM
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Absolutely! Hormonal shifts and other less predictable factors make a difference but I can get really anxious or stressed and have trouble relaxing. Even the temperature in the room can have an effect or if a fan is blowing can dry me out. Lube can help with the moisture but the vaginal muscles can be too tense to feel good during penetration and it will hurt. I generally find it takes about 2 - 3 different sexual interactions with a new sexual partner to actually get comfortable and have sex co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:37 AM
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I think the age problem goes for both genders and I haven’t meant anyone in modern day who disagrees with the notions that one gender should date barely legal while the other can’t- generally you either think it’s problematic gender be damned or not. However, pretty much any other ethical preference is just fine to me. And even if you date someone really young, if they are of legal age I might judge but I can’t stop you. 🤷‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:03 AM
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Not at all, I am wildly insecure about my body and hate even looking at it most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:08 AM
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This one makes me sad. It sounds like he has major mental health problems and should get therapy and treatment. Dating the same toxic people over and over is usually a symptom of some kind of trauma early in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:58 PM
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Yeah my partner is an outspoken feminist but I do know what you mean when you say pandering for some people like the “wife guy” from buzzfeed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:56 PM
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I’ve definitely picked up how a gap in communication like that can boil up out of control. When you aren’t actively listen to someone and just operating on your own assumptions you’ll find you can never make them happy because you don’t care to know what actually does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:56 PM
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Pretending to be anything to make people like you is pretty weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:54 PM
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This I agree with for sure, that is a love bombing red flag and I’d be suspicious. I think it’s bad advice when people tell women to only go for guys like that, they’re basically bribing you to like them, you should think it’s suspicious
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:54 PM
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Neither, saying something is anecdotal, is to say it is not an accurate reflection of everyone's experience, and more of an assumption that everyone has had the same issues as you. YOU perceive men as "cold" and "logical", meanwhile, there are thousands, if not millions, of complaints documented of men expressing their distress for emotional problems like loneliness, social rejection, feelings of low self-worth, envy of others, and so forth. YOU have asserted that men and women essentially don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:26 PM
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For real I am with you, it’s a healthy and generally harmless solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:20 PM
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This is all entirely anecdotes and personal feelings without any solid data for any of it. It also seems counterintuitive to argue men are “cold” and “logical” while observing the male loneliness epidemic and the number of men expressing intense emotional distress from a lack of female attention or perceived rejection. There are plenty of men on the internet and off currently arguing the opposite, even suggesting the narrative that all men are cold and unfeeling has actually negatively impacted …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:04 PM
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You mean to tell me you’ve never met a woman you weren’t attracted to and couldn’t resist wanting more with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:56 PM
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I’ve dated more than one guy who has never had a girlfriend. Do you think it’s possible you’re rationalizing the idea that you don’t like women as people but expect a girlfriend to be different somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:43 PM
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You didn’t answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:38 PM
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I have no idea what that means. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:38 AM
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How do they head that way exactly? Like what happened where you were made to pay for things and do favors without any awareness of it exactly? Seems really weird to call me a gaslighter and compare me to these situations when again, I never ask for my friends to buy me things and we are happy to just chill together no favors needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:30 AM
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Because friendship is a meaningful connection between humans that doesn't require sex or romance or any of that. How do you have any semblance of a normal relationship with family members that are women with this perspective exactly? Literally we just want to have relationships with men that don't revolve around sex. What is men obsession on here with sexualizing any interaction with women? Why can't you treat us like humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:13 AM
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how does that work? Source!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:08 AM
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Even if that were true ( touch grass and log off porn hub, REALLY?! You KNOW that's statistically improbable ) he'd still be treating them as friends on his end, that still supports the argument that he views women as people he can actually have companionship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:07 AM
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If it's always like this with female friends you've never had a female friend. I've bought my friends dinners. I've sat on the carpet and stayed up all night marathoning movies in my apartment with my friends. You haven't had a female friend. I'd empathize more if there was some level of abuse or coercion but for the life me I don't understand why you didn't just say no thank you or I can't manage that? I can see doing a nice thing out of the impulse to just be nice to others once in a while but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:00 AM
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I never stated that. In my other comments I even pointed out that you can do just about anything with a female friend you would with guy, aside from a few gross or impolite behaviors men seem to think is normal. Otherwise, women are just as individual as men. There women that would love to be your gym buddy, your player 2 for console multiplayer games, your stoner pal, your movie buddy, and so forth. Women have a diverse number of hobbies and interests just like men. A girl that is genuinely you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:56 AM
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For starters… they’re people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:22 AM
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Why do you think a woman should “fix” your sexual needs while your guy friends don’t owe that in order to spend time with you? What are they “fixing” exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:20 AM
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What exactly does a friendship with a man give you that a friendship with a woman can’t. Also what do they get more of exactly? I’ve said this to others but if a friendship is more take than give then you aren’t friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:16 AM
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It’s biased to intentionally write women off as not worthy of friendship just because you assume there will be challenges and still doesn’t support the idea that women cannot be good friends with men or that your girlfriend shouldn’t also at least be a friend
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:13 AM
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Why would women post themselves playing basketball on social media? On the shame I’m just guessing but like locker room talk is famously disgusting and dehumanizing and it’s well known that men only say it around men because they support treating women like that and no it’s a horrible thing to say to them soooo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:41 AM
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Best friend love =/= perfect love. You’ve definitely fought with your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:40 AM
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Except this is the 21st century and there is no point in marrying someone today that you don’t actually like. A lot of women initiate divorce BECAUSE they want a life long love and best friend after years of trying to make it work, they’ve determined that this isn’t it. That’s how relationships work it’s really just trial and error sometimes shit doesn’t go how you want it to. Sometimes people change or even discover they aren’t the same sexuality or gender identity as before. In a transactional…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:36 AM
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You can find a powerful meaningful best friend love connection in reality to if you are a half decent person and look for it. It won’t be perfect but it will be far more worth the time, the stress, the memories, the potential years of your life, than someone you don’t feel that way about. Both relationships will cause most likely the same amount of stress, or at least hold the potential too, but one of them will have some really special moments too even if it falls apart in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:35 AM
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You don’t sleep with your male friends right? Why do you keep them around?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:33 AM
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So have you heard that saying about brutally honest people? It goes like “people who are brutally honest are almost always using it as an excuse to say hurtful things bluntly with no repercussions”. Arguing that because men can be nonchalant at the expense of each others feelings your relationship is more sincere , is a bit of a mixed bag
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:31 AM
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This hinges on the assumption that all women are the same and all men are the same. Which just isn’t true. I’m sure you’re a completely different person than say your dad or your brother, or to go a step further, your coworkers. You probably have nothing in common with a lot of men too, that doesn’t mean men are fundamentally incompatible with you. Again, most arguments against female friendship have no solid basis in reality aside from past experiences and a formulated negative bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:28 AM
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I know plenty of women who would enjoy competitive basketball with you as long as good sportsmanship is at play. If you have to tone yourself down considerably around women then certain behaviors may be akin to guy talk or guy behaviors because they’re only things you get away with for being a man and that usually is not a good sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:24 AM
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Any partner who can’t tolerate you having opposite friends is either not in a good head space to be in a serious relationship or has a good reason to be uncomfortable as in maybe your boundaries with your female friends can get a bit iffy? Anyway, either way is possible but with a healthy partner and a person who has appropriate boundaries with their friends that respect the agreed upon expectations of the relationship, it shouldn’t be weird at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:22 AM
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Doesn’t it sound concerning to you that you can’t foster a sincere connection with anyone that can’t share your exact point of view?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:19 AM
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And that’s fine for you to feel that way but then how do you expect to have a relationship with them? Or is that not the goal just to clarify? Because if it’s not that’s neither here nor there in this discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:16 AM
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I was working. I have a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:15 AM
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I don’t see how past casual experiences have anything to do with the idea that a relationship is also a friendship. Can you elaborate on that? I’m sorry those situations didn’t go where you wanted them to, but it’s best to disclose your intentions and drop people who don’t want the same things where you can to avoid heart ache. Rejection in any form still hurts but miscommunications can make it so much more excruciating and dragged out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:13 AM
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I don’t think you’re thinking that through. Just imagine all the challenges and strife and burdens of a marriage you’d have to go through with a person you don’t even like much. Relationships are work, and energy and time. A relationship will take up at least a portion of your week or weekend to maintain and foster that connection, so you’d better hope you actually aren’t at the very least bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:11 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:07 AM
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And you’d rather do that and even potentially legally bind yourself to a person you have a sort of Luke warm connection to rather than find someone you actually enjoy being with and are excited to spend time with? It doesn’t make any sense. A person I just kind of tolerate could not remain my life partner through thick and thin. That would be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:07 AM
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The short answer is some men are great people. Kind, caring, funny, compassionate, great to hang out with and not trying to sleep with you. What inherently makes same gender friendships better to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:05 AM
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sincerely why would you want to devote so much energy to a person you don't enjoy the company of?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:48 PM
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if your friends genuinely like you they won't mind just coming over to do nothing together like play a board game, or watch movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:17 PM
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Healthy friendships are a balanced give and take- if all of your female friendships are more take than give altogether, again, those are bad friends that don't seem to like you much. It says very little about women to suggest that female friends of your past were poor friends, especially while acknowledging your girlfriend does not make a poor friend, which actually proves my point after all- as you've acknowledge your relationship with her is more balanced in that sense. You already have a fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:12 PM
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That's definitely different from saying a friendship with a woman is pointless, or women cannot possibly be friends with men, which is the crux I think of the issue this post is focused on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:52 PM
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No. My partner is genuinely my person. My best friend. He gets my weird silly jokes, he loves doing just about anything with me, we call each other and tell each other about our days just about every day, we love sending stupid memes back and forth, we connect on our political beliefs and world outlooks, I genuinely can't think of a better stronger connection. We have our faults and our challenges. But I couldn't ask for a person more beautifully aligned with my hobbies, my inspirations, my valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:48 PM
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That sounds like a sex based bias then that you're being pretty open about. If your partner is genuinely a good friend, then the argument that women don't make good friends or offer nothing in the way of friendship is a false claim, and more of assumption based on past experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:38 PM
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"I agree. I still don't see any reason to have a female friends. Anything a female friend can bring to my life is something a male friend will provide to me for cheaper." "Talking to women adds something to my life. Something I can get for cheaper from a male friend. So I don't see why have female friends. It is inefficient. A waste of my time and resources." My guy friends don't pay anything to be my friend, and when we do things together we're happy to take turns or split costs on shared activ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:32 PM
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it is a contribution to that discussion yeah! Thanks for acknowledging!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:23 PM
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Because a relationship requires spending time with them, hanging out with them, listening to them, which, if you can't stand doing, will breed misery and resentment over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:22 PM
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How can you expect to connect with a woman in a relationship if you can't even enjoy bonding with them in a non sexual manner? It's hard to fathom nurturing genuinely loving connections with anyone I wouldn't also want to hang out with and be myself with in the same way I am with my closest friends
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:17 PM
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Did you read the full body of the post or just get worked up by the title? That is not the purpose of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:10 PM
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Did you read the body of the post or..... ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:09 PM
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If you have nothing in common with a woman, such as views, interests, hobbies, that relationship isn't built on anything solid or meaningful and I don't know that it will last tbh. If you have yet to meet a woman that has genuinely related to anything about you, you either haven't met the right person or you maybe aren't ready to be with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:08 PM
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What benefits do your male friends offer you, why don't we find out that first so I can understand how you personally feel about friendship first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:06 PM
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I did not say it necesarily helps with dating- my only argument is you're not going to enjoy a woman's company that you're dating if you don't enjoy keeping women around as your friends because it's not that different in some ways- you have to be able to hang out with women to genuinely enjoy a relationship with one or it won't have a solid foundation. I do think being an approachable person who knows how to be polite with women and respectful is a great thing too, but if you're expecting it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:06 PM
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No one said you'd have to do anything particularly different than you would with your other friends. Play video games together, hang out, drive around listening to tunes- do whatever you normally do with a friend sans some of the potentially more weird stuff like locker room talk or scratching your balls in front of them if that's something you do with the homies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:03 PM
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I've never met a man like that if I'm honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:01 PM
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How can you expect to be in a relationship with a woman you can't even call a friend? What does that look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:01 PM
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if you don't have any of those things in common with a woman, why would you even want a relationship with one? Why spend time with a person when both of you would likely bore each other to death outside the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:55 PM
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I firmly agree with this, if you literally can't stand to spend time with any man, dating one wouldn't make any sense. I don't think every person expressing frustration from negative experiences with men literally hates them but in general, a basic level of decency and respect is the minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:52 PM
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this is such a great way of putting it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:50 PM
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I personally prefer monogamy and think it can work better for most people but even I can acknowledge other relationship dynamics have been known to work for certain people. They are not for everyone and when poly was especially in and trendy nonmonogamy was often pushed upon monogamous people while calling them small minded which is detestable in my opinion, but I cannot even then, argue that poly doesn’t work for people who choose it. It’s a very different kind of love than the kind that I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:02 PM
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Not at all. It’s just an element of exploring each others bodies. Is giving oral a punishment or chore to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:20 AM
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My best friend is a man. I watch movies and play video games with. I hug him and have special jokes with him. We have movie marathons and send memes to each other. We are super close. I save my venting mostly for my therapist or my partner who is also akin to a best friend in our closeness. But sometimes I do vent to him about things he understands like having a toxic family growing up, our similar political views and both being bullied kids when we were young. He does the same with me. It isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:04 PM
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I don’t believe in leagues or objective value. I observe qualities in the men I’ve been with based on what I am informed and what I observe and rather than seeing a man as in a certain league, I noticed areas that he may be more knowledgeable and confident and areas he may be less so. I might notice a guy is more socially awkward than me but have better skills in playing a musical instrument or know more about a certain thing like philosophy or science. He might have a different aesthetic than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:27 PM

I’m not automatically assuming it, I’m just operating under the logic that it is a very possibility and I want no association with even that as a possibility. It’s not a risk worth taking when there are options that don’t pose it. It’s like saying one in ten of a certain fruit contain deadly levels of arsenic and will kill you and deciding to still eat it knowing that. So what if it isn’t every time, it’s still a very real possibility. Also I have never needed money to motivate me to want to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:12 PM

Sugar Daddy / Sugar Babies are still protected legally in most countries as an ethical above the board dynamic. If a sugar baby is physically abused they can still safely take that issue to court. A sugar baby is not necessarily agreeing to consent as the end all be all purpose of the relationship. Boundaries and consent are still accounted for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:11 PM

There is absolutely no reason not to overcome those problems ethically through therapy. I don’t care why people do it, the end does not justify the means. If the individual is being exploited odds are you are sexually traumatizing them. Again- sex workers are humans too and they’re not being treated like them in this equation. Find an alternative that doesn’t potentially emotionally scar another human where consent is clear and the source is ethical. And if it’s simply human touch you need, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:11 PM

Things I am all for: - AI GFs - Ethical Porn - Sex toys / sex bots - Celibacy by choice - other forms of going your own way - passport bro-ing with mutual consent and understanding - Sugar babies / Sugar Daddy situations - pursuing cougars / individuals who are within a 5 year age difference or at least above 30 as it may be easier and make more sense than dating your age - long distance VR / online relationships that are otherwise healthy Things I am genuinely against and why: prostitution: as …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:28 AM

Thank you! This! All of this!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:22 AM
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I love marriage as a concept and am a hopeless romantic. But I want to work out some of the problems in our relationship first and that may take a while. I want to be careful about getting wed to ensure that we are ready and have a working dynamic first as divorce can be enormously costly and sometimes becoming married itself can put a complicated strain on an already imperfect couple. I think marriage in general is awesome but it should be done thoughtfully with mature insight
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:43 PM
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Survive. Maybe get married to my bf of 2 years. idk. We'll see. Heal my mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:51 PM
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I don’t think so. Maybe if you had never been with one for real you might have some strange ideas on what they should look like but after I started having sex I didn’t really compare what they looked like size wise, I just paid attention to how they felt and if it felt good that’s all I cared about. I watch porn but I notice when the junk is unnaturally huge and I don’t really care for it. I think it just looks better on camera because visually it’s more to look at which is why the porn industry…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:54 PM

I agree 100% while some of us may be more shy than to immediately express that we want them as much as we do, we do not need to be pursued with money or nice things. If we like them we want to be around them and that is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:49 PM
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You’re not a creep you’re just wasting time and energy miscommunicating what you want from each other and creating misunderstandings. And there is a difference between waiting a few weeks or months to be sure you know them well enough and years of friendship. It’s not black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:13 PM
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If you get rejected in the beginning you’re saving yourself time and energy on something that would have panned out anyway. It’s okay to be honest about what you want and accept when someone else doesn’t want the same and just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:08 PM
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I agree but I feel the type of people who complain about being "friend zoned" don't want to preserve the friendship after all and are dissatisfied with having a friend altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:48 PM
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yes. Several actually lol. Was that supposed to be a gotcha?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:24 PM
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There is a difference between hitting on a stranger and crushing on a friend for years and saying nothing. This isn't black and white. You can get to know someone for a month or two and tell them you're looking for something more and see how that goes. But befriending someone long term especially if they are with someone else for the majority of that friendship and then dropping the bomb that you don't see them as a friend is strange. You're treating it like there is no in between but there very…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:23 PM
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That anything outside of casual sex requires basic social skills and abilities
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:09 PM
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Even if you get rejected upfront by someone, is it not better to save years of your life, potentially wasted pining over someone who doesn't feel the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:08 PM
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Sometimes the change in dynamic can be a hard transition and that is fine. I do think honesty and transparency is important but it's understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:05 PM
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Then this isn’t categorically friendzoning because that was the expectation from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:20 PM
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Exactly, I think some people drag out asking the person out because they’re avoiding rejection. But delaying it won’t really change it. After a month or two AT MOST, most people know what they want from you. When we say make friends first we’re not suggesting be friends for years and form a trusting platonic bond just to drop this bomb on them, we mean stop chasing absolute strangers who don’t trust you. 👏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:42 PM
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If that is your opinion make it clear early on with a woman. If she’s looking for only friends then she’ll know you guys wouldn’t mesh well Some people aren’t sexually attracted to all their friends and just value hanging out together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:38 PM
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women have porn and smutty books and a lot of us aren't even straight so like keep dreaming. Women very much do not need men to fulfill their sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:15 AM
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r/4bmovement LMFAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:12 AM
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I would not describe these as instincts at all. Learned behaviors with conscious thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:04 AM
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and the thing is, you may still have issues in other parts of a relationship that could still contribute to a person feeling like you do not add to their life in a positive way. Just incompatibilities and such
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:23 PM
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Lmao, social Darwinism is insufferable. I can tell you point-blank why I, as a woman, run the other way from a controlling, demanding, clingy man. I'm concerned that their instability could be highly reactive and dangerous, and escalate to more abusive behaviors. Their mental health issues are worrying and show a lack of independence and ability to self-regulate, which could mean they have a higher risk of being abusive. However, in the circumstance where they were open and honest with their nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:20 PM
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" I mean look at this post, "beauty standards", the poor girl thinks broad shoulders on men and wide hips on women are made up beauty standards by the illuminati,, that's just biology, we are wired to find those things attractive, nobody is inventing beauty standards " - and here we see another man who is wildly confident and horrendously ignorant. I'm not even going to bother explaining why you have the IQ of a tortilla for thinking like this. Anthropology and centuries of documented history ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:12 PM
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"neediness" / "clinginess" is a sign of mental health issues and attachment issues, regardless of gender and I've very much been the needy one that was rejected and avoided for that exact issue lmao. It's a mental health issue that impacts both issues and a sign to get help. No one accepted my mental health conditions as normal. Also how do you even define "needy". I think texting constantly demanding responses and getting upset without it every 5 minutes is inappropriate neediness for example, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:46 PM
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"Women in general don't want a needy man. They want a man who doesn't need them but wants them. " No one wants a NEEDY person who is desperate and controlling and demands your attention. That's mentally ill. "Hence a man must find a purpose other than a relationship, whatever that may be, before he is able to be fully accepted by a women. " The horror men must (gasp) have a life, what a cruel cruel expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:32 PM
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show me where I wrote that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:31 PM
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No, describing a life where you are fulfilled with your hobbies and joys and friendships and community, and mentally well to the point of not desperately needing a romantic partnership as hell sounds like a person with codependency issues and lack of self and identity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:30 PM
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Some of my best friends are literally men like this. It's so hilarious how you're literally arguing against my own words that I wrote because of baseless vibes. Just say you have an irrational bias and think you know how I think better than I do and log off in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:23 PM
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Literally my entire post is about the benefits of self fullfillment. Did you even read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:10 PM
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Not at all. Re-read the post. The argument was never die alone. The argument is to stop trying to force connections when they don’t happen. To stop blaming the opposite gender online. To stop wallowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:09 PM
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Many of my closest male friends are single and amazing people with individual lives. They are leading their own paths and happy. There is a difference between "Women suck we don't need you LOL!" and "I'm just going to do what makes me happy and if I find someone that's great but I'm not going to endlessly search and fuss and scream about being entitled to something, I'm going to put me first and be indifferent to it."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:59 PM
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"perfectly fine"? No, life is never effortless, that's just unrealistic. But worse off than they would be in a relationship? No, I don't think so. I think that mentally well person is very much capable of being as much happy alone as they would be with a partner. It is very much possible to foster connections as deeply supportive as a relationship without being in one and to supplement the desire for romance in other creative outlets or media. Romance novels and media exist purely for the feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:51 PM
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There this a difference between not having options, and being at peace with being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:38 PM
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"My pushback would be that relationships actually are worth it, even the fucked up ones. ~As long as we aren't talking seriously messed up (lets be reasonable people). " There's your problem right there. A LOT of relationships are legitimately unfixable, psychologically debilitating, and life-ruining. Count your lucky stars if you've never endured a relationship that made you look back and wish you had just stayed single. There are relationships that are worth it, don't get wrong, but there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:30 PM
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""self improvement to achieve what our parents and grandparents achieved with little effort" will start to die" exactly, people are taking this to mean that I don't approve of people changing or adapting. I do, just not for the end goal of getting laid but for the opportunity to live their own lives for their own purpose, other than shallow glamourized sex appeal and validation. Self improvement to be hot and fit and sexy is entirely different than self improvement to be the best artist, writer,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:23 PM

So tell me about your codependence problems, did it start with your mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:21 PM
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literally just read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:14 PM
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Going your own way is literally just self-improvement with a focus more on what makes you happy and improves your own mental health, rather than for the sake of getting laid. So much self-improvement on the RP side of things is entirely focused on attracting women to the point of it all being ultimately shallow and based in empty hypermasculine ideals like "gymmaxxing" and "looksmaxxing" or pickup artistry. Going your own way is just focusing solely on the qualities about yourself that make you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:09 PM
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I support non-antagonistic MGTOW practices. Folks that keep their heads down, work, pay the bills, and spend all their free time on their hobbies, their videos games, etc- maybe have an AI GF or waifu or whatever helps fill the gaps if it makes them feel content. I think there shouldn't be any negativity towards that choice as it is far less harmful than a toxic relationship where individuals struggle for control and force one another to surrender freedoms and healthy connections due to a lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:59 PM
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I think there is too much pressure on the idea that one HAS to have a partner to PROVE they are lovable or worth something to others. I think the pressure and expectation of partnership and conformity is a real societal issue. But I think the gender wars and demanding compliance from the opposite sex is misdirected energy and a disturbing mutation of old world misogyny rather than a willingness to confront the actual issue that today's individual face. Which is simply an intense expectation for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:56 PM
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I'm not going to respond to the questioning of an obvious hyperbolic complaint that was cherry-picked out of the body of my body comment. You can acknowledge the actual meat of my argument or accept no reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:52 PM
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"Sounds like it was easy as fuck for you. " I was emotionally and physically abused and raped several times. "You don't understand that men who whine have nothing but a very intense warm feeling inside them that pulls their whole being." I am a hopeless romantic. Believe it or not, having a thousand options where 9999 of them treat you like an inhuman piece of meat is just as depressing and dreadful as loneliness, arguably far worse. "Meanwhile, what, you had some experiences that weren't so goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:34 PM
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I would describe this post as extremely hopeful. In what world is this nihilistic? Find one sentence that supports that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:20 PM
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"There's a difference between self improvement and trying to improve aspects of yourself to make you more appealing to potential partners." So you agree, that people should go their own way then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:18 PM
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Imagine thinking that just doing what makes you happy instead basing your existence and self worth on getting laid "batshit crazy". Your therapist will have their work cut out for them when you finally get that in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:17 PM
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It does honestly take time to formulate a community, and with adult responsibilities, that can be hard. I honestly would recommend picking a hobby like DnD / TRPGs, a multiplayer game that can be played on a console, a sports team that you can watch the regular games of, a fitness or hiking group, cosplay, honestly there are so many options. That being said, this is worded alarmingly like you've never had a hobby that you've shared with a friend to bond over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:07 PM
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"they still have access to sex and relationships even when they're not looking for them, and with relatively minimal effort." - Sex where they often don't reach orgasm or enjoy themselves, and relationships where they may experience more stress and dissatisfaction than many people feel it is worth. I am not here to argue who is more negatively impacted by the relationship that treats who worse here, but with relationships often creating such unhappiness in many people, is this really the plus yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:04 PM
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It is in fact not easy. However the net positives for society and the individual are notably better than what’s going on as of late.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:27 PM

I honestly think you might find yourself at home in the LGBTQ community and Aromantic community. It sounds like you just personally don’t desire that to me which is completely valid. Some men do some men don’t, it is far healthier to embrace the idea of being aromantic or whatever is your happiest identity than to fight it and try to conform with allosexual alloromantic hereronormative expectations. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:25 PM
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Why not devote this anger and aggression so many lonely men have towards forming those communities rather than their romantic or sexual desires. I am not here to argue romantic or sexual needs don’t exist. But healthy self worth and mental health can make an enormous impact on how much value and emotional distress is attributed to a lack of sexual fulfillment. An otherwise happy person surrounded by caring friends and fun shit to do all the time, is far less likely to be drawn to the belligerent…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:22 PM
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Right? Or forfeit elements of who you are just to not be alone. I think so much anger on this site comes from an unwillingness or fear of just being alone. And less people would be so malicious about demanding relationships from the opposite sex with the made peace with the value of self worth and solitude
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:18 PM

The impression I get from this post is that OP may be aromantic or just tired of trying to connect with others and that is completely fine tbh. It is an individual want but to any men who feel that way, I encourage you to do what works for you, we don’t want to change your mind if going solo is the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:15 PM

I’m not claiming that at all, that is a straw man argument. I’m stating that forcing relationships that people do not choose to be in of their own desire or free will purely due to the black and white logic of “being alone is always harder than not” is only going to create dysfunctional relationships. Not that men specifically are the toxic ones but any dynamic that forces two people to be together and sacrifice their individual lives and freedoms for each other when they don’t even like each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:54 PM

Just because something is hard for you to understand doesn't make you correct; it means your perspective is distorted based on your own wants, rather than a realistic understanding of what the alternative is. ETA: This isn't starving VS overeating, that's a poor analogy. It's more like the difference between starving and eating cyanide
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:33 PM

Do you think relationships where people don’t like each other actually work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:28 PM

Pretty much any relationship where two people aren’t compatible or don’t like each other intrinsically and are together for the sake of having a relationship winds up being messy and ugly pretty quickly even it doesn’t become super toxic- it doesn’t work out and the best scenario is two people waste years of their life stuck with someone they barely tolerate only to break up anyways and wind back up at square one because they didn’t have a good foundation to begin with. Toxic or not relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:26 PM

https://www.who.int/news/item/09-03-2021-devastatingly-pervasive-1-in-3-women-globally-experience-violence Why are guys like you sporting your ignorance like a trophy? Is it a kink to make yourself look stupid and be proven wrong? Google one thing in your life before confidently pulling nonsense out of your ass lmao. I’m literally getting second hand embarrassment for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:15 PM

1 In 3 women are victims of assault. Rare? Get real!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:09 PM

Because there’s such resentment towards women for making the logically better choice like we’re so horrible for sparing you an unhappy relationship with us when you are just as angry and unhappy if not more when you get that. Because knowing it’s the better option and still being resentful and bitter that you can’t magically get everything you want is irrational and the female gender doesn’t owe it to you to magically make it so you can always get what you want and nothing else. Because you’re c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:05 PM

I’m sure it feels worse to some people, I certainly know it didn’t for me as all the people that wanted to date me were so demeaning and judgmental I felt just as rejected as ever. Most men are not considering how many guys pursuing us will say horrible hurtful things to lower our self esteem, or assault us, and so forth. An interested man can do some genuinely traumatic shit to the target of their interest. But none of that is the point. The point is that not getting into a toxic relationship j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:03 PM

You’re arguing them it’s valid for men to be angry and resentful for a lack of relationship without any consideration for the fact that avoiding a toxic relationship with you is honestly a kindness to your mental health and the better choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:00 PM

The point isn’t that being alone is easy. It’s that everyone copes with loneliness in some form or another and most people who choose it are mature enough to realize they aren’t compatible with anyone. It’s ultimately to your benefit a lot of the time that someone uninterested in you hasn’t felt pressured to date you anyway out of pity and to alleviate your loneliness. The women choosing not to date are just as lonely as you no doubt, but they don’t want to endure the trauma of a seriously toxic…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:57 PM

With the number of posts on here ranting about gold digging, baby trapping, cheating, alimony and child support- you’d think it’d come you guys a little sooner that the wrong partner is so much worse than no partner at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:50 PM
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I mean yes, if a woman pursues a partner solely for their resources, that would certainly be a kind of objectification. I don't think anyone is arguing with that like, at all really. If all a partner is to you, is their job, their car, their house or whatever, that's definitely objectification. The thing is most people are struggling in this economy. I don't think most women could go for the gold-digging lifestyle even if they wanted to, there's hardly enough gold to go around, at least where I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:27 AM
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I’ve never actually wanted a rich man is the thing. I’m childfree and many men who have worked hard for their careers and are now searching for a partner, have the expectation that I be the stay at home baby maker, which doesn’t interest me. I don’t want gaps in my resume as it could strip me of the ability to re-enter the working class in case the relationship fails, so I have no interest in becoming a stay at home pet for a rich man to provide for. I’d be a bit unsettled by the difference in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:45 PM
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A lot of them do. They aren’t a monolith. On some level I think what he did he knew was wrong. But I think you can be a part of the problem and know on some level but keep pushing it down and denying it. He had to know on some level because I even told him I didn’t want sex in the mornings and he had to stop and he kept doing it. At that point he very much knew it was unwanted. So I think it was just denial. I still think in a way my past traumas drew me to him but not as consciously as some abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:08 AM
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As I've explained in other comments, research supports that people who have been previously abused are more likely to be abused again because abuse feels normal to them and it's what they're used to. So it's actually very believable that an abuse victim is abused again, statistically many abuse victims were initially mistreated in childhood, where they learned the idea that this is normal, and breaking the pattern later in life is very difficult. It's not that EVERY guy is abusive, though it's d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:53 PM
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Alright, fair. Just as much may be the wrong lingo to use. I'd still argue that being an abuser is horrible, shameful, monstrous thing to do that in no should even remotely compare to the crime of what, trusting someone else to be a decent person? How do you even compare the two as equal or deserving of each other? And trusting a person does not MAKE them abuse you. Abusers want to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:45 PM
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Here's what's especially interesting. Another redditor and I were just talking about how abuse and being a bad partner or friend isn't super black and white, and it can be hard to self-reflect and realize you're a bad person. Many people will have weird justifications in their heads for what they do to others, convincing themselves they had to do it for some reason or that others just wouldn't understand. Others even just push the memories of their worst actions down and pretend they didn't happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:40 PM
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Again, either before they know the person is as abusive as they are, or because they feel this is what they deserve, this is normal for them. Neither of those are choices to be abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:31 PM
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No you dude. What?! "Only women are that gullible". Men get abused just as much as women in different and unique ways related to their role in society, but nonetheless. Why are they not also "gullible" and "choosing badly" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:27 PM
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A lot more children than you think are accidental. And again, that man also made that baby, while BEING the one who was doing the abusing, and knowing how that would hurt mother and child, and choosing not to change course or get therapy. That is a far worse decision to make. And women that wind up with baby daddies were often treated like dirt long before they became a mother. The term alone "baby daddy" is associated with poorer people in more complicated situations in life. People like this t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:26 PM
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As explained in my other comments " It can take years, even decades, for a person to fully slip off their mask, and most abusers intentionally wait until their victim is somewhat dependent on them to do it, so they have nowhere to run. Even then, a victim can have extremely low self-worth and self-esteem and a history of abusive family members that have conditioned them to feel that this what they deserve, that people have always treated them this way so they must deserve it somehow, that they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:17 PM
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"Only women are that gullible and accepting of people on their act." Male sexual abuse is very much a real issue, and the majority of the perpetrators of it are other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:13 PM
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That just sounds like a ton of black and white thinking to me on either side.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:07 PM
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"So yes I will agree with what you're saying here, it comes from trauma. " "THIS is what men call out." you just acknowledged she's a victim and was traumatized and abused and you're still mad at her rather than him?.... forrrr...... wanting an abuser to love her because it's all she knows?... make that make sense to me. You're wrong and you're still standing by your victim blaming. I hope she blocks you if she hasn't already, it sounds like you can't for the life of you, stop blaming her instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:04 PM
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"And for people who say that “why do these women keep getting into abusive relationships”, it’s because a lot of times that’s what feels familiar to them. When all you’ve known your entire life is an emotional rollercoaster, emotional stability feels unfamiliar and scary." Thank you! this is a big one I wanted to address. Often when abuse against women is talked about on this sub, no one wants to acknowledge the well known and researched phenomenon of previously abused and groomed individuals be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:59 PM
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You're only noticing the obvious ones because you CAN'T notice the ones that aren't obvious. That's how perception works. Of course, you only notice the obvious abusers, they're the EASIEST ones to notice. You've likely never had to slowly peel back the layers of a genuinely deceptive and dangerous abuser because you've never been a target of abuse. Side note: it's APPALLING that I've had to explain confirmation bias and statistical blind spots to this many men. Education has failed you guys or …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:34 PM
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You've completely missed the point twice now. you're only noticing the obvious ones because you CAN'T notice the ones that aren't obvious. That's how perception works. Of course you only notice the obvious abusers, they're the EASIEST ones to notice. You've likely never had to slowly peal back the layers of a genuinely deceptive and dangerous abuser because you've never been a target of abuse. I'm honestly concerned for your mental comprehension that this is so hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:27 PM
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"Because every abuser I've known was obvious, blatant, cartoonishly evil and easily spotted." Of course. That's like saying every breath you've taken went into your lungs, or every time you drank water, a liquid went down your throat. Of course, they were noticeable; that's how you noticed them. If someone is good at hiding their worst qualities, and they aren't personally targeting you as the individual to take them out on, you'd never know about them. As I've explained to others, the majority …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:16 PM
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That's a fair assessment and I would argue it's never black and white, we have all been bad friends or partners in some ways though some are far worse than others. A lot of folks don't fully reflect on how even small actions can just make you a poor quality partner in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:58 PM
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It can take years, even decades, for a person to fully slip off their mask, and most abusers intentionally wait until their victim is somewhat dependent on them to do it, so they have nowhere to run. Even then, a victim can have extremely low self-worth and self-esteem and a history of abusive family members that have conditioned them to feel that this what they deserve, that people have always treated them this way so they must deserve it somehow, that they are somehow just pissing everyone off…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:51 PM
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I appreciate you reflecting. Empathy and support for victims is for everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:12 PM
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Your anger and pain over having a traumatic childhood are valid, but it still doesn't answer the question of any of these factors, and it sounds like you should go to therapy instead of taking your mommy issues out on other women. It's odd you aren't more angry at the men who hurt you both too, but I wouldn't know much about that dynamic. But still, that just means you need therapy rather than assuming every woman is like your mother or even that your mother WANTED that life for you and her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:55 PM
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"Because they are so blatantly obvious to me." The ones you could identify were because that's how that works. Look I can do it too! 100% of people who have died are dead! No way!! Mind blowing!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:51 PM
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"Because every abuser I've known was obvious, blatant, cartoonishly evil and easily spotted." Is like saying every time you drank you swallowed or every person alive has breathed oxygen. It's weak af and proves nothing. Of course they were obvious, that's how you spotted them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:47 PM
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Yeah actually. Do they have children together? What kind of manipulation tactics does he normally employ? Is she disabled? Does she have a reliable job? A reliable method of transportation? Somewhere to go if she needs to get away? When did the hitting start? How long have they been together? Is drug abuse involved? see how you didn't even think about a single one of these factors? It's embarrassing how black and white this logic is, how can you be proud of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:45 PM
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I'm sure it is easy to point out men who espouse their narcissistic beliefs to you, but I want to mention that men get abused and hurt by other men all the time, and sometimes their loved ones or family members. The majority of male sexual assault victims were assaulted by OTHER MEN. Meaning that abusive men are not easy to spot even by other men, let alone by their actual targets who they intentionally want to fool. It's also worth mentioning that a heterosexual friendship with a man tells you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:43 PM
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I've never told a man that, and I don't agree with it. No one should be victim blamed, regardless, but I have yet to meet a woman who has said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:29 PM
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Neither. I’d gently let down the nice one if we haven’t been able to improve his performance by just telling him we aren’t compatible in some aspects and I’d completely ghost the arrogant one once his shitty personality became clear to me without any further discussion. Sex is a skill and if the good guy can’t improve after multiple sessions it could be a sign of someone who does not understand me or listen to my feedback to say the least. But regardless being good at one skill doesn’t fix anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:01 PM
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You can absolutely be the majority of these things and not be perfect. My boyfriend is spectacular in bed, sweet, affectionate, committed and we’ve always had the same sense of humor. He isn’t above 6 foot but height truly is not as arbitrary and important to most women as guys on here will have you believe. And he still isn’t perfect. He’s human. We have communication issues. We’re both messy, forgetful, disorganized. But he’s wonderful in all the ways that actually matter to me. If you think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:45 AM
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And of course paired with the Im not tall or modelesque and I struggle to connect with women therefore all men that have these features are being oppressed and discriminated against by women, and I’m not just an exceptional weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:42 AM
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Jokes on you my man is all those things except tall and I’m extremely happy 🤷‍♀️. Also I find it hilarious when men on here complain about girls picking the “funny” guy like having a personality is an unreasonable expectation? I’m so sorry it’s so hard to learn a decent joke lol. All of my partners have been under 6 foot. Varying races, personalities, and yes quality in bed. This is the only partner I’ve had that consistently helps me finish during sex. I’d argue good sex may strengthen an other…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:39 AM

Absolutely OP! Good take away
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:04 PM
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The big one for me is that most people are harboring a secret longing for romantic connection but feel an enormous pressure to play it cool which results in a lot of casual shit just for show and doesn’t get them what they really want. Im sure people that genuinely prefer casual exist, but I think most people want love and aren’t being honest with themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:31 PM

Honestly when I went out dancing most of the guys never complimented me or even said much, just danced with me and sometimes felt me up. If a guy tried to get to know me and offered to step out and chit chat in the out door patio for a bit and seemed interesting and nice enough, I’d want to see them again
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:27 PM
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The issue isn’t how attractive the man is, it’s the very public situation in front of a parent. Restaurants also seat people at individual tables for a reason, you’re there usually to spend time with your own group or entourage and enjoy the food, not meet someone new
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:24 PM
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Never heard of anyone except for the super freaky fetish community to do it and even then it was a once in a life time type deal. So not common at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:46 AM
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I honestly have no idea if that is the answer for a lot of people but if two incels found love with each other I’d be happy for them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:41 AM
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Just guessing here but probably just for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:02 PM
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even if she isn't straight, she may find nonmonogamy wildly unnatractive by itself regardless of who gets involved
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:22 PM

So for every person it's different but I think there has to be genuine intent to have an emotional affair if not actions taken. Developing feelings can be somewhat out of our control but if you intentionally seek out the target of those feelings while being aware of them, and continually strengthen that bond to an inappropriate degree, that's definitely questionable to say the least. And if you verbalize or communicate your romantic feelings with the intent to manifest something between you and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:28 PM
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I've said this before but it deserves reiterating: people who stay in toxic relationships do not genuinely want to be in them, they just lack the self worth to believe they deserve better. Typically they've been treated this way or similar since childhood and have formed the belief that this is what is normal for them. If as a young girl they did all the chores, or perhaps their mother did all the chores, this is just how believe they are supposed to be treated in a relationship. That is just an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:12 PM
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If thats all you’d expect from a potential partner gender not withstanding I’d say there are definitely people searching. Just beware that they may not be a great match for you compatibility wise
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:14 AM
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Yeah, no that whole first paragraph is solid, I just meant like the tattoos or piercings or divorce thing, or even abnormally tall thing, I wouldn't make assumptions based on those. But observable characteristics that could make a person violent or dangerous as a direct result of their behavior, that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:18 PM
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The question was, if you WERE a WOMAN what standards would you EXPECT of a MAN
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:14 PM
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Can you provide sources that substantiate that partnership with a man with a gun is actually safer for a woman than not? Or that feminist fathers raise sons that face particular challenges? " In violent relationships where an abusive man has access to a firearm, there is a 400 percent increased risk of him killing his female intimate partner. " (Link)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:44 PM
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How do you think being a non feminist and gun owner would benefit you as a woman in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:31 PM
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why should a man be in a relationship with a woman he's settling for?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:30 PM
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Honestly none of these would be immediately red flags for me other than the criminal record one. The others may be based on statistics but the criminal record one speaks to personal actions that are dangerous or problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:30 PM
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So real. My partner is helping me recover from an eating disorder. He could not care less about my weight gain right now, he just wants me to thrive. Real love is definitely less fickle than people will have you believe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:59 PM
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This is so valid, I feel this way about my partner. As long as we can survive this world as a team and they are compatible with me emotionally and mentally, none the rest of it matters to me. I'd pay the bills if I could afford to help us both. I'd teach him life skills if he didn't have them already. What matters the most is his ability to listen, to care, to connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:58 PM
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The question is what would be YOUR standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:55 PM
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In my experience, it's extremely individual, but the biggest common thread I've noticed is a lack of effective communication and self-reflection. Many men don't know what they want or how to express what they're looking for clearly and earnestly. When I was single, I had a handful of short-term dating experiences while trying to find my person. and I find an interesting problem kept coming up over and over that made me cut things off and stop seeing them. They were terrified of their own wants r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:27 PM
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27 F and I’m in a long term relationship with 34 M
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:12 PM
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I’m all for people who are either dissatisfied with real human relationships or unable to find, finding a safe and appropriate means to fulfill their sexual needs and loneliness that does no harm to others. I support AI partners, advancements in tech, the use of smut / romance novels, the enjoyment of tulpas / personal fictional romantic relationships and so forth. I will say I would choose my irl partner over a robot all day every day but there really is nothing wrong with this concept. It shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:57 AM
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yes you can put in the extra work and gain some kind of education or degree ON TOP of raising kids and all the work that entails but that WON'T make up for a lack of experience and employment gaps in this economy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:53 PM
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“Sexual validation is not compatible with intimacy” it’s your first sentence dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:08 AM
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You think a woman can’t deeply long for a lust for their intimate romantic partner? I feel sorry for you if that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:58 PM
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Research supports that humans are social creatures and are meant to work together as pack to protect each other and survive. Animals of all kinds commonly exhibit the behavior of making noise when they are hurt or threatened to alert the other members of their pack of the danger so they can work as a team to protect one another. In solitary creatures, sure, communication and collaboration are completely meaningless. But humans are not meant to be solitary creatures. The fact that you’re writing …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:15 AM
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If by first choice you mean I don’t fully have his heart yeah I think it matters
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:30 AM
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I agree. We are just expressing our emotions more openly, expressing fear, sadness, grief or whatever. We’ve been conditioned even to feel it’s the fastest way to be protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:28 AM

I suppose if it were legal and well-regulated, I would have fewer qualms about it. I personally don't feel comfortable with the idea of consent being bought and someone having to have sex to put food on their table and pay for their basic human needs. But perhaps if it was well regulated, I would have different feelings about the issue, but regardless, on a personal level I just don't want to be with someone who would pay for sex, there's an uncomfortable degree of objectification and detachment…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:59 PM

Woman here and this guy has a really really good point. I can tell this person has a good grasp of the golden rule (Do unto others as you would like done unto you) Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:32 PM

I really think this is a case-by-case personal philosophy as I have read of many women being fine with this. I am personally have my own beliefs about it but this seems to be generally a deeply individual opinion in the 21st century
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:31 PM
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idk I'm like a 'becky' and I definitely used the apps and most women I know did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:59 PM
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The vaginal canal has individual rings of muscle than can tighten and relax and when a person is sexually excited. Individual vaginas react to sexual excitement differently, but mine relaxes at first to allow penetration and then gradually squeezes tighter and tighter as near orgasm to increase the amount of friction and sensation I can feel from the penetration so that the glans can rub more against my G-spot and outer vulva. I'm not certain but I believe those are the kegal muscles people ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:27 PM
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Yes. I've experienced large ones, small ones, etc. The emotional connection and feelings of care and security were fundamental to my ability to relax and enjoy the experience and feel pleasure. The vaginal canal is a muscle that can relax and tighten in response to penetration. When I experience arousal it relaxes enough to allow for penetration but also can tighten / squeeze my sexual partner's penis for added stimulation during the act which not only makes him feel more pleasure but actually a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:12 PM
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Nothing will ever be fair for them, they don't want fair, they wanna be treated like "kings" remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:27 PM
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This is some tiktok brain shit- you realize no one in real life thinks like this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:23 PM
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My boyfriend is under 6’ lmao. Do you guys have a kink for confidently making assumptions about total strangers and getting mocked for it? Or are you a wannabe psychic? If so, you’ve got to work on your cold readings lol Also, it’s Red Pill 101 to objectify women and use them for sex. If you’ve been on this subreddit for years and have not seen a single post of a ‘Lonely’ man stating the answer is casual sex, I’m concerned with your ability to read. Did you make it out of elementary school?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:14 AM
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Glad you can recognize it. Not an excuse. It means that societal problem needs to change rather than have us cater to it. Tough shit. Learn to communicate or nothing changes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:12 AM
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Lmao tell you’ve never spent any actual time on this subreddit without telling me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:10 AM
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"Ultimately the point you are getting across is that their "problem" is not really a problem (and further that they are pretending it is a problem to manipulate people). " No I'm arguing that they're being dishonest and intentionally emotionally unavailable to the same people they demand intimacy with. Not that their problem isn't real, that it's misplaced and weaponized in order to get their desired outcome which is sex even though emotionless one time sex alone has nothing to do with lonelines…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:01 AM
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*EERRRR* That is incorrect. That is not written anywhere in my post. Find me a direct quote or take a 3rd grade class on reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:40 PM
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re-read the post. Show me where I contradicted myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:27 PM
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"If I wanted to get off, I'd go see escorts - which I already do." Well there you go. Most women avoid men that do that like the plague and for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:11 PM
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The entire point of this post is that most of these men don't want JUST SEX but are unwillingly to maturely acknowledge that. I wish I knew why
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:53 PM
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Yes it does. Especially when these same belligerently deny caring for or even willingly humanizing their female potential partners while trying to use emotional pleas of loneliness for sex. It absolutely does. If you cannot communicate your emotional needs effectively then of course no one will empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:49 PM
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I believe that you might find them physically attractive in a deeply shallow and kind of weird way I guess, but I don't believe they meet your degree of psychological development and wisdom unless you're deeply stupid and have learned nothing in the last decade
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:35 PM
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Completely valid. If one can articulate meaningful feelings they shouldn’t be misdirected.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:09 PM
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True. Communication and self reflection is the greater solution
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:09 PM
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Then you acknowledge it’s a relationship with oneself. Than no physical act can solve that. That’s internal. That’s a case of therapy and self healing. Someone else can’t fix that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:07 PM
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This is specifically the issues of the same men saying they want no feelings casual sex. I’m not being pedantic. It’s intentional avoidance of their own feelings. These examples are not that. If you want your feelings acknowledged, the least you can do is acknowledge them yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:06 PM
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This is not relevant to the post. These are emotional gestures not “sex with no feelings involved” reread the post if you must
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:02 PM
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"Rubbish, plenty of people need the physical to not be lonely." Elaborate. Do you have feeling about taking poops or eating meals? Or are there certain sociological connections to those bodily functions that incur emotions? "How about the women I know who need the physical (sex) to not feel lonely?" From their partner or casually with strangers who couldn't care less if they lived or die? Be honest. "This part doesn't make sense" Sounds like you've learned about one of your individual challenges…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:54 PM
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The purpose of this post is to state that these are two separate things. Thanks for reading it. /S
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:37 PM
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I have seen some posts on there where men acknowledge their sadness and emotions more honestly, though I will say there is still a lot of victimhood and self-pitying and a lack of responsibility, but one step at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:35 PM
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"It's kissing, loving, holding each other, cuddling, and being close to someone else. It's about sharing something intimate and beautiful. It's about a connection." Those are feelings, that is the purpose of the post, that it's pointless and reductive to attempt to dehumanize women while admitting you want a woman to have feelings for you. You have to be willing to care for someone if you want someone to care about you. "Nobody cares about what men want or need, no point in communicating anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:33 PM
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Absolutely, but one cannot claim to be lonely while insisting that their needs or desires contributing to it or purely physical. Again, your dick doesn't have emotional feelings. I'm not a mind reader but if you want us to care about genuine feelings you have, you should be communicating them. It is difficult empathize or care about purely physiological needs, and so they shouldn't be surprised by most women's complete lack of care at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:15 PM
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So you acknowledge that most of these men have deeper emotional and romantic needs? That this is about feelings, maybe love? I appreciate that contribution thank you! That's the dialogue I intended to have, is an acknowledgment that a relationship with a woman might mean more to these men than they would want to express it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:11 PM
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I've definitely seen it, but I agree that it isn't honest. If there are feelings involved it's deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:09 PM
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this and also wanting others to buy into your "woe is me" "my life is so hard" and so forth rants and empathize with you because you can't get your dick wet and refusing to acknowledge any deeper feelings of wanting connection because it would mean dropping the facade that a woman might mean something to you other than an object to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:08 PM
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You'd think this is true, and yet many many many people will argue until the cows come home that sex is all they need and yet that's damaging to them on an emotional level to not receive it, firmly insisting it is casual sex with no feelings that is the answer to their 'loneliness' and depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:05 PM
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Because communication matters. Many of these individuals want empathy but are unwilling to express the feelings they want us to care for. The language used when discussing what you want from others hugely affects their response to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:02 PM
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Sex is a natural human desire but it's deeply deeply personal and also a bodily function. Everyone has to poop for example but most of the time strangers don't want to know about what you did in the bathroom. Strangers aren't going to engage sympathetically with conversations about your dick, and feel for what you're going through, with zero emotional context. It's also not necessarily an emotional thing in and of itself. People can have emotions around sex but to claim one is 'lonely' solely du…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:59 PM
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Sex also =/= Romantic relationships. If you have genuine feelings of loneliness and desire, you should be talking about those. The point of the post is that if lonely men want us to care and emotionally connect with us, they need to fully honest about their feelings instead of insisting it's purely sexual. It come across as wanting emotional intimacy but refusing to give it, which just won't work no matter how rooted in masculinity they feel it is to deny their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:54 PM
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sure and when I read about genuine emotional loneliness regardless of gender, I care. But I cannot exaggerate it is the men writing this themselves, that insist that sex is the only solution and nothing more and that women aren't even human to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:48 PM
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That's the thing, I can empathize with and feel for that kind of void. Wanting a life partner to laugh and cry with, to hold, to wake up next to. I care about those feelings, I know what it is. But so many of these individuals insist they only want sex. That I just don't care for and it's dishonest to call that lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:45 PM
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I can't read people's minds but I don't think, if there are genuinely emotional needs associated with the sexual desires of these individuals, that stating they want no-feelings sex, is an effective way of communicating them. They may have those feelings, but we're not hearing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:42 PM
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I have not seen a post about a woman saying she is lonely purely due to a lack of casual sex with no other feelings attached, but if you can find a post like that I'd happily read it. I will say again, your genitals don't have emotional feelings, so if you feel lonely, it'd be better to be honest about your deeper emotional needs, and if you just want sex and nothing else, you are not 'lonely'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:37 PM
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I super appreciate your vulnerability for being honest about this. I fear this is the case for a lot of men but their unwillingness to be that open makes it difficult to care or empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:34 PM
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Gentleness, compassion, a tender heart, an artsy sensibility (draws, paints, reads, writes, does something fun and creative), Silliness ( makes funny words for things, likes to dance around the living room to certain songs, a love for animated movies or "childish" things because they're fun), Quality conversational skills ( good at listening and engaging to what I have to say, and sharing meaningful thoughts with me that make for exciting and inspiring conversations with each other, wanting to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:58 PM
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I don’t know this to be a thing at all no unless she’s deeply afraid of him noticing her feelings and trying to downplay them a little
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:24 PM
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I think for it to be a fetish it has to be sexualized in a manner that is particularly objectifying to the individual or somewhat shameful to have. Like a person can find bigger women hot but if he's weird and secretive about that attraction and seeks out these individuals aggressively because of porn fantasies that he isn't telling her about, that's sort of fetishtic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:59 PM
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aesthetically I find most people to be beautiful, especially if they have charming mannerisms like a quirky smile or small fidgeting behavior etc. However I very rarely experience sexual attraction to the degree that a lot of people describe, like wanting to actually fuck a person just by looking at them. I do experience sexual desire and attraction to my partner but I think that's because we are so close and bonded with each other. Over the years I've just accepted the idea that this probably m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:19 PM
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if he was *clear* and *consistent* about being childfree, and wasn't assaulted, coerced, or otherwise decided not to use any protection, then he wouldn't have a child, end of story. Accidents happen, but if at any point he went along with the plan to have kids with someone at the insistence of a partner he's just a spineless doormat and has only himself to blame. No one should be intentionally creating children they do not want, especially because they're simply too cowardly to stand by their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:11 PM
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That's literally girth means lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:24 PM
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Minecraft Steve ahh shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:09 PM
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No because if they were I'm pretty sure they'd be having sex or getting with other women then. I'm pretty sure women who WANT to be with other women sexually, typically act on those desires unless they've not had the opportunity to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 04:14 PM
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It wasn't intended to be a direct comparison, but a similar example in the sense that financial control and total BDSM domination are common kinks in fantasy that are less often practiced irl in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:57 PM
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or accept that people don't want casual sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:53 PM
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No, it's actually pretty common, I can back up u/OrganicAd5450 for many cis/het women the risks outweigh the benefits I'm not certain if it's the majority, it's still not that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:46 PM
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The only people that this sort of unstable addictive behavior works on, are unstable people who form addictions. If that's what you want this might be a fun ride for you, but if you want anyone you can count on and trust, this won't go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:45 PM
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I am also a bit of a sap that doesn't care for hookups but yes, I agree that it can be super messy on both sides and never seems to lead anywhere good. It does seem to ensnare people with addictive personalities and penchant for taking risks who get hooked up on the ups and downs, the highs and lows, the will they won't they of it all. I think ultimately it is just better to not engage with people who play these types of games.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:43 PM
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Straight women definitely exist believe me, any girl who has dated or been intimate with other women will tell you they've possibly formed a crush on a straight girl who genuinely just didn't see them that way!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:32 PM
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Congrats for failing comprehend the entire point of my comment. It’s fantasy. It isn’t real. Just like you probably think Spider-Man is awesome but probably don’t want to fight the vulture
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:03 PM
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Yes because you’re making a claim without any evidence. You’re not a woman, you don’t have any research on women’s social attitudes or philosophies and yet you’re arguing with a woman on how women think. Think that through for a second, see if your brain can formulate what’s wrong with this picture? “I’m not quoting a statistic” … “99% of women…” so do all men have this poor of grasp on terminology and debate, or are you… you know, just exceptionally bad at?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:32 PM
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Correction: women are only interested in age gap relationships in FANTASY. Ala 50 shades of grey sold like crazy but very few real women have pursued these types of relationships because reality isn’t the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:30 PM
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Again source? Cute fan fiction btw, but I’m more interested in stories that at least engage my intelligence even if they’re entirely mythological. Maybe try a class in creative writing since you seem really into making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:28 PM
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This is the funniest crock of shit I’ve read in a while. My mother was sold this nonsense when she was young and she hated being a mother, always screamed and complained about the realities of parenthood like her messy home, her endless list of duties to support her 6 children she insisted on having, the absurd cost of feeding, clothing, and educating us all like any of us asked to grow up with 5 siblings and a miserable woman who hated being a mom for a parent. Several of her children including…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:25 PM
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Lmao. Actually I don’t know a single woman who doesn’t want that information upfront. You didn’t explain it. You made it the fuck up. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:20 PM
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I mean I’m not autistic I just have severe ADHD but if it scored me a strong relationship with a good partner, I don’t see why that shouldn’t be the norm? Any therapist will tell you relationships are built on communication. Starting a connection out this way is fundamentally terrible for that key proponent. This is all weird mind games and social scripting. Just because honesty is more my language doesn’t mean it’s a flaw. It’s different in a great way. Where’s the relationship that this strate…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:09 PM
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Just here to share my contribution to this experience. Had an ex neg and demean me in little way that he swore he was “just kidding” about for years. If I confronted his insults he’d start crying until I felt sorry for him and gave up arguing. I told him we didn’t have to fight like this if he could be more supportive and respectful towards me and that mocking has to end but he would say these comments would just “slip out”. The bullying gradually made pull away from him until I was totally with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:03 PM
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Yeah as a neurodivergent woman all these unspoken assumptions about everything are just too much for me. I like security, honesty, direct and open communication. Not guessing what I mean to someone purely based on vibes. Entrusting someone with my body is already a big step, I would never do it if I couldn’t know their intentions at that point. My bf and I waited about a month or so before we got physical with each other and we had both agreed we wanted to know what we meant to each other first …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:44 PM
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“ 6”+ NBP, 5”+ girth” is the funniest shit I’ve read in a while. Just picture it. A dick as wide as it is long like one of those “chubby” soda cans. Fucking ridiculous. I’ve never even seen a dick shaped like that. What are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:30 PM
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In my experience the sex conversation shouldn’t be initiated with one long weird ass pick up line. It should be done with sensitivity and maturity. “I’d like to take things a step further with you and have sex together. Do you think we’re ready for that?”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:34 PM
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Conformity is ultimately nonesense in my opinion and the best path is to be the best version of you, change the things that hurt you and don’t make your life good, accept the things that can’t be changed or are difficult to change, forget aesthetics and prioritize well being, and not let go of what makes you you whether it be Table Top Games or Hiking adventures in the mountains, or Scrap metal sculptures or whatever makes you feel a little more complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:25 PM
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Have to agree that the environment your raised in hugely affects the way you understand future relationships, and that children need to be raised to know their worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:24 PM

Honestly I think it’s just a case of effectively communicating that’s what you desire. If I was friends with a guy and the vibes were good (chemistry, attraction in the friend stage etc) and he said something like “I really want to meet someone special but I wish they come to me, I want to feel wanted that way” I’d probably go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:15 PM
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It worked for me but I had to learn to vet and protect myself and express firmly what I want and many young women may be vulnerable to low self esteem and put up with a lot of bullshit. It's why so many "sitatuationships" are a common issue. There's a lot of noncommittal and predatory behavior on there, so you have to be guarded and very careful and be ready to say "no, that's not what I'm looking for" a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:49 PM
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Thanks! I infer using common sense and attention to detail. Bummer, I know I'm not stupid, must be tough. Want explain where I'm wrong and why... or just... you know, whine?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:43 PM
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Yes absolutely. I don't have difficulty separating a person's genitals to their identity and I'm attracted to both "parts" so to speak, so for me personally, it isn't complicated, especially if emotionally we connected in a really wonderful way it was the only hang up. ( I have a cis partner but obviously this is a hypothetical where I were single so I'm answering in that head space )
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:36 PM
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Also if anyone needs context, here. This is the foundation of this made up story about having "Narcissistic personality disorder". Because I love my boyfriend and refer to him as my "darling". Because anyone that thinks their boyfriend of two years is a "darling" has "narcissistic personality disorder" apparently. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:06 PM
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Idk it's your made up story about my life. You decide. I'm not writing your fanfiction for you man. Pick your own motive. Btw my boyfriend is literally reading this post with me and laughing about how fucking stupid you are over messenger. I also love how you just abandoned another comment thread with me because you couldn't think of a response. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:59 PM
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Keep going man, that book isn't gunna write itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:59 PM
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Okay valid. I definitely approve of the mentality that for many people it's in their best interest to protect themselves first and to be cautious of who they let in their life. And yeah I concede when it comes to certain situations it can be a bit cringe to watch it go down, I still just feel this negativity is misplaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:57 PM
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How much you wanna bet and where would you like to send my winnings? This is like your fifth comment thread with me and you gave up on all the other ones and ran away scared so like, how much more public embarrassment do you need to fulfill this kink or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:47 PM
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It's not embarrassing it's tragic. Maybe instead of asking why women tolerate abuse, we should be asking why abusers abuse? Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:47 PM
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Abused who? When? How? If you're going to make shit up then elaborate lmao. Go on. If you're going to continue writing fan fiction about my life, keep going. Tell me what you supposedly know about me, stranger on the internet. Which narcissistic traits? Where? When? Show me a screen shot of where that happened? Sources? Go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:41 PM
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get a hobby? maybe that's why you're on here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:22 PM
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yeah probably because, like in the original post, they have no self-worth. I was abused all through my childhood so by adulthood, it just felt normal and like how I deserved to be treated. I think this is probably a common through line, they haven't been taught that they are worth something, that they deserve better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:21 PM
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Have you ever noticed how basic cheaters' alibies are? "Work trip" "just a friend", deleting their PMs with women are their phone? Their methods are often super common and unoriginal, nothing brilliant, just basic lying. So yeah, it's super easy to trick and lie and manipulate a person who you've been nice to and established a sense of trust with. Come on I'm sure you've got a working brain and you know you've put on an act to make someone like you before, for example a job interview. You've got…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:06 PM
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No one said masterminds. You don't have to be clever to manipulate others. Research suggests even animals know how to trick their owners into getting what they want. You can be quite stupid and still manipulate someone, and sometimes you have to be dense, to be so lacking in shame and self reflection. Intelligence isn't really the necessary ingrediant that makes someone a liar or not, it's a lack of moral qualms, really. And btw how would you know? have you ever dated an abusive man? Do you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:55 PM
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I think it's just personal chemistry tbh. Like yeah charisma and charm in general exist but I think the vibe that attracts one person doesn't always work with another, so it just depends on how two people connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:35 PM
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I hugely agree with this one actually, as a neurodivergent woman who has struggled massively with anxiety and self-esteem, I think the better advice is to make peace with the fact that not everyone is going to like you that if you're being your best self and people don't like you, that's okay and there isn't necessarily something wrong with you, they just aren't meant for you, and to not give up when someone doesn't get you, because somebody will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:32 PM
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I mean sure, in an individual conversation if someone asked me what I meant I would say, be the best you but never let go of the good things in you that genuinely make you happy! I do say those kinds of things? Generally just be yourself is given by people that don't know you so they can't give more individual advice really, but it's just common sense that we should all be the best version of ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:23 PM
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Absolutely as you should feel, no one should be made to feel like a second choice, at that point why put all the effort into a relationship, better to put yourself first
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:21 PM
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I never settled for him. He is my everything. I'm in love, more than I ever have been. If they don't feel that way about you, you don't have to stay with them. That love is out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:18 PM
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When we say that we mean the best version of you while not denying your fundamental personality qualities. For example I've had to mature a lot over the last few years, develop more adult skills like driving myself around, cleaning up and organizing my space more frequently, processing and handling criticism better, and so forth, but I've never let go of my best qualities, I've only refined and improved them! I'm still an artist, and a gamer, and a nerd! I still love fantasy and scifi stories, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:14 PM
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I have a professional therapist thank you. You should get one too. Also I don't need to explain my abusive exes so you can verify if they're abusive. It happened, I lived through it and I know for a fact that those were abusive dynamics with inequal power and control. I don't care if you can't comprehend the reality that all abuse is not mutual. That's a failing on your part to wrap your head around the very basics of relationship dynamics, open a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:01 PM
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I'm not blocking free speech I just don't care for your opinions, if I were blocking free speech I would be trying to get all of your awful takes taken down by the mods but at this point, you're really entertaining lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:00 PM
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It's... embarrassing.... to be able to understand and use sarcasm...?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:59 PM
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You weren't being real specific, and we both know Britney was made extremely famous for her Lolita high schooler aesthetic in one of her first music videos, you cannot blame me for using common sense. Regardless, calling her a "goddess" and stating their ex "ruined her" is bizarre and gooner behavior. Regardless, abuse can ruin anyone of any gender, so it's a pointless argument to make and reaks of bitterness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:58 PM
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No. I don't think I will. Grammar does not invalidate my points. Refusing to substantiate yours does. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:54 PM
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Yeah so you're either like 12 years old, or should probably talk to a professional about getting diagnosed with a condition I'm sorry. It's gotta be seriously difficult to live in a world where sarcasm is this challenging for you to process
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:47 PM
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Where was the help? Where was the insult? Where did I get offended? where was the feminism? I'm gonna need receipts that any of this fanfiction you're writing happened. "You step all over feminism like the way a cat steps on things.....slowly...one paw at a time." Even your similes are tragic, ever seen cat get the zoomies? "At least the young chicks can have a simple convo without going ape like you." How simple do you need it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:43 PM
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THE LAST SENTENCE in that entire paragraph was commentary on your gross descriptions of teenager lol. It is not my fault you didn't read the rest. And if I didn't understand that go back, use your eyes and your brain the entire comment and explain where I misunderstood, I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:40 PM
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So like, have you been diagnosed with anything yet cause.... that wasn't a lie, it was sarcasm.... clearly. Are you by any chance on the spectrum orrr....?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:39 PM
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Is the "advocating" in the room with us? What do you advocate for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:35 PM
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I don't agree with the idea that ALL MEN prefer young naive women and want that superficial type of relationship but I do agree with the logic that tone cannot say all men do something and then call it a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:34 PM
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if you have zero interest in a person who can intellectually match you sure. But if men really enjoyed the company of younger people, they would have friends the same age as their partner. You ever see a 40 year old with 20 year old friends? If you want a partner that has any amount of equal life experience and can give you a mentally stimulating and deep connection, you're probably gunna choose someone closer to your own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:32 PM
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yes, please illuminate us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:31 PM
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"the way you portray men is as if they can only see a problem if they are effected by it." - Because saying "choose better" is a fundamental misunderstanding how abusers manipulate and mask their worse qualities to lure in vulnerable people and then turn on them, which heavily suggests you truly don't know anything about the problem. It's not an issue of who they initially choose to spend time with, it's an issue of who they stay with because they haven't evaluated their worth. That's why most w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:29 PM
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I like how you addressed zero of my arguments and went straight to comparing me to some woman I've never heard of and criticizing my personality as a stranger on the internet. It's a debate, not a Miss Congeniality contest, if you want me to play stupid and pretend to be nice to you, walk the Vegas strip, you'll find someone who will settle for the pennies in your pocket.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:26 PM
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seriously, like this is silly, I hate when these mouth-breathers ask an obvious question we all know they know the answer to just so they can act pedantic about the definitions and avoid the actual morality and ethics of the post itself. It's childish and they really think they're doing something clever. Like we all know wtf abuse means!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:23 PM
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" Why do women date and marry men to ruin their lives? " - Have you ever been lied to before? Tricked? Thought you knew someone and then you didn't? Think on that and come back to me when your neurons make a connection. "This could have been avoided if they didn't date or marry." - Because they still want love and have sexual and romantic desires.... you know like most allosexual / alloromantic humans??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:16 PM
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" Britney spears is a perfect example of no matter how high a woman goes, one bad man will bring her to rock bottom. " - The abuse that was done to her was tragic. The way abuse hurts people is deeply sad. Be grateful you've been lucky enough not to endure it, as this is not an issue that only impacts women, and I also want to point out that Britney wasn't just abused, she was under an immense amount of social pressure and control that affected every element of her life and well being. "no matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:14 PM
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in a mututally toxic dynamic I'm sure that's true. But there are definitely situations in which one person is a placater/ peace-keeper and the other is emotionally dysregulated and the aggressor. Even therapists and psychiatrists will tell you that there is typically one person who does more harm and has more malicious intent than the other. Not all abusive dynamics are mutually cruel. "she is home with a child will instigate but if he has money stress and she buys a purse he's the one instigati…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:06 PM
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it can vary hugely, but anything from being controlling (you have to text me every hour or I'm going to call you and argue with you about it!) to chronic belittling (mean-spirited and negging comments all the time, just always judging and complaining with little empathy) to physical violence. Abuse is often reciprocal, true, where it goes back and forth, but there is often an instigator that keeps the cycle going and benefits more and another who feels they deserve to be treated this way or even…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:06 PM
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Fair point, it's very possible many people who argue this are at least somewhat aware of how unfair this is to suggest, but I still feel it's worth pointing out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:01 PM
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" They don't settle for abuse, they just don't date. " There are plenty of people of all genders who still date with extremely low self esteem and self worth. ask half the people on this sub of either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:52 PM
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I’m a lady but it’s a hard yes. I empathize with gender disphoria and would be happy for them. But I respect every persons right to choose who they want to be with, as long as they’re not trans phobic and hateful about it. The way these guys talk about trans woman is just so out of line and really shows that women get just much vitriol for not suiting their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:14 PM
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Valid in some ways but men direct their anger towards women’s standards that specifically more based on financial power or status and shallow stuff. I will say not nearly as many women want those types of things as they think, but when they complain about high standards, that’s what they’re talking about. I do think choose better is shitty victim blaming nonetheless and an abusive POS can hide all their worst qualities for years just to entrap you but in some ways vetting can help reduce the odd…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:49 PM
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LMAO. and this connects to the discussion how? These are economic and governing styles, they have nothing to do with the overarching issues of how these different political movements treat human rights. And that's all ignoring the fact that a group can be indoctrinated into blindly supporting their own oppression without even knowing it. Christianity famously brainwashing individuals from infancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:05 PM
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show me which part of my statement is historically wrong with evidence lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:49 PM
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It isn't surprising at all to me that women more commonly lean liberal, and men more commonly conservative. It's common sense really, the only people who benefit from right wing bullshit are men so of course they're more likely to be the ones to support it, and left leaning politics are more likely to focus on protecting women's rights, shocker I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:46 PM

I mean yeah. You should try it, having a life outside of rubbing your dingus I mean lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:50 AM

You clearly haven't met my man :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:25 AM
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Have you ever considered the idea that normal humans don't form their entire personalities around what gets them laid or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:58 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:58 PM
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Confidence or charm isn't it for me either. Warmth, Gentleness, compassion, creativity, a good sense of humor, and compatibility are what matters to me. He can be shy and awkward as fuck but if our interactions leave me admiring him as a funny, safe, comforting person with a great quality of character and morals after getting to know him, I'ma fall in love. I'm not attracted to a guy who's charismatic but has zero substance or compatibility with me. It's about how our thoughts and personalities …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:06 PM
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As others have pointed out, that’s actually super normal and common lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:36 AM
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well yeah but you have to pay attention to how they respond. If they're interested they'll tell you about their outfit or that movie they saw recently etc, you're just starting off the conversation. Then if you get good responses you can just ask if they want to hang out some time, catch a movie, play a card game, whatever and see where it goes. Women don't want to give their phone number out to a total stranger, they want to feel safe and like you're a normal human being that they can hang out …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:32 PM
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How about how are you? This place is pretty alright, is this your first time here? I like your outfit, it’s really cool! I like your sense of style! Have you seen this movie that just came out? Etc. it’s not that hard dude
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:16 PM
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It’s not an exception. I was also abused for most of my life with domestic violence, sexual coercion and psychological abuse. I have severe mental health issues because of it. And while I’ve heard negative things about my appearances, I’ve also had men on this subreddit outright confirm I’m an attractive woman. I’ve never felt the so called privilege that men on here think we have. I’ve sought help after sexual coercion and been told I’m lying or there’s nothing that can be done. I’ve certainly …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:37 PM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:42 PM
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"offer an alternative that doesn’t start with “men need to…” " Is OP dense enough to think that others need to solve his problems for him or....?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:42 PM
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how is therapy a non answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:40 PM

I really don't care bruh. Most of us truly do not care and it's not that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:17 PM
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Not really a plus or a minus, it all depends on how the sex feels to me. My partner is honestly the perfect size for me and he knows how to use it. I don’t make any assumptions as far as size, I just pay attention to how it feels. That being said my partner is about average for his body size but he’s the only man who’s ever had good technique and he really takes his time with foreplay which helps a lot especially if you have any sort of sexual traumas or anxieties, feeling safe and relaxed and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:42 AM
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but like others are saying it's important not to be sexually aggressive or too intense when asking someone out on a date. Pick a public space like an arcade or movie theatre when suggesting the date and don't use weird pick-up lines or sexual innuendos. For most men the only real question if they want to date someone is if they like them, but for women it's about liking them and feeling safe around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:42 PM
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when I was single absolutely. if we were otherwise getting along well I'd say what the heck, might as well give it a shot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:20 PM
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If they take no for an answer, absolutely. I'd actually prefer a guy just straight forward express interest and respectfully accept a no, than do what a lot of dudes now which is orbit or harbor a weird crush on their female "friends" keeping us guessing as to whether they see us as genuine friends or just potential sexual opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:13 PM
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There's something called intersectional feminism and it is all about the idea that different people are impacted disproportionately by sexism depending on their other factors, such as the culture they've grown up in, the color of their skin, or having a disability or other stigmatized condition or identity. It's frequently talked about in online spaces dedicated to feminism and women's rights / history. Aside from that, many of us don't want to involve ourselves in something we may not fully kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:11 PM
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I don't think it's that big of a deal if I'm being honest, especially if we are otherwise a great match.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:17 PM
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" Well what should men that don't want to change do,what if they are content with being single not getting married nor dating not having kids. " Stay that way?? like what is even the question here??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:30 PM
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I'm of the mindset that personality is made up of a person's hobbies and interests and their personal values and beliefs. So when a person picks up more interesting hobbies and interests, and more likable values and beliefs, they as a person become more likable. A person has to be willing to change those fundamental things though, and most people aren't. They can be expanded upon with open mindedness and education though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:56 PM
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Realest thing I’ve ever read on here. It’s worth mentioning that for pretty much all of history society has built unequal power structures to ensure men stay in power above women, stripping of them of the right to vote, removing their ability to own anything or hold a bank account, essentially reducing women to property- which ultimately means historically the society created today that hurts men in so many ways, can be solidly proven with anthropology to be enacted and built by men before women…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 03:23 AM
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Why do you ask like having any self preservation or morals makes a person gay? Have some common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:16 AM
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Exactly. Pickmes have been known to attempt to normalize everything from domestic violence, cheating, economically disparate divorce, blatant discrimination, the revocation of women's suffrage, and access to all kinds of birth control. You'd have to have your head in the sand to ignore the fact that that is extreme. I think OP doesn't know what a pickme is tbh lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:15 PM
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Because culturally for many men that is unfortunately the truth and we're afraid of being exposed to that and used that way. Side note I don't agree with slut shaming or calling people degenerate whores or whatever but pick-mes aren't just comfortable with men wanting them, they typically express views that are harmful to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:31 PM
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Absolutely not, I wouldn’t want anything to do with an actual mobster, I value my life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:22 PM
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I would have to know what those standards were to really judge but if it were specifically about looks… yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:17 PM
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Have you ever tried it? Lmao they do not react well and some don’t take no for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:56 AM
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I like compliments, I just get anxious when certain compliments come of aggressive or threatening and like there are bad intentions behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:32 PM
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some of their guidelines just aren't realistic, so I don't fully support it. I think the idea of vetting way more is solid advice but I don't know that their tips on what to vet are all that smart
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:01 PM
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Lmao no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:06 AM
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The moment someone wants to use me like a piece of meat I just lose interest tbh so if I found out a guy was trying to FWB with me in hopes of a future I'd just ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:28 PM
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It's financial coercion where a person's need to afford basic life necessities like their home, their medical care, and enough food to eat, hang in the balance and the customer knows that and abuses it. If it weren't coercive and was in fact consensual, money would not be needed. I have never needed money as a motivator to have sex with someone I already wanted and consented to having sex. Plain and simple really. I find it hysterical that redditors are so quick to call the working class wage sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:26 PM

Probably not. I have character crushes, not celebrity crushes. But I’d hardly call them crushes tbh, it’s all in good fun. Honestly it’s not that serious. I would not be bothered if my boyfriend also thought a character was attractive or adored their best qualities etc. I don’t think it’s that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:24 AM

I’d tell him he is a hero and dote on him while he recovers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:22 AM

That they are deeply sad lonely desperate people whose mom probably hates them and rather than unpack that in therapy they take it out on other women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:21 AM
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No. I personally just don’t get involved with men who use escorts in general. I don’t think consent is a product that money can buy and I don’t want to be with someone who does think that way, regardless of what motivates it. It’s a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:20 AM
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For me I never intended to choose the wrong guys but it had more to do with the way I raised and naïveté. I came from an abusive household with a single parent that loathed me and is deeply misogynistic and instilled in me the idea that I was a worthless burden, all guys are the same anyway, so I should essentially be grateful of any man that wants me or can put up with me. So the guys I dated early on just were the first guys to make me feel wanted, and I assumed I would never get chances like …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:11 AM
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Definitely could use some self reflection based on this paragraph alone. Hope you get help soon. Sorry you're lonely and blaming people's rights on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 09:50 PM
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I honestly have not witnessed that so I wouldn’t know if it’s true or not but I can verifiably say I’ve been torn to shred for my appearance and struggle with it constantly. Like it is absolutely all consuming I probably think about what other people think of my face and body like 5 times a day and every time it crushes my soul tbh. Literally the degree of bullying strangers will do to you for not fitting their preferences is ruthless. I don’t know a single man who can say other men’s reaction t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:35 AM
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Self reflection and communication: knowing what you truly want and expressing it effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:26 AM

Ah yes the classic: I have the IQ of a potato so ALL MEN must be just as dense, I couldn't possibly just suck ass as a human being and individual. Get a hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:18 PM
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I think a small vocal minority of immature women may be negative towards this but it is hardly proportional to the stigmatization of single mothers. I'm a childfree woman myself and I can assure you I took no offense in finding a childfree man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:36 PM
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I've met plenty of men that were the problem but I just want to point out as a woman how weird some of these gripes are: "Not Social" - oh so introverts are what? Undatable to you? I mean if he's a rude asshole or just hard to get to know on purpose than yeah that's a problem but like... not social? "20 Minutes late" - I can spend 20 minutes chilling on my phone! Shit happens! "Fast Food Dates" - Shit! In this economy? Sure it's not romantic but if this is our first time meeting, I just want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:34 PM
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Okay, this is a good point, if it can be proven that no contact was made during the pregnancy and the pregnant person has access to abortion and the time and health factors allow for them to abort and they choose not to, I would also think that that could support the idea that the decision had been taken away from the other person and they can forfeit parental rights in that scenario as well. But it is crucial that evidence can be provided for these situations so that we are certain that this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:15 PM
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I personally do not feel this way tbh... I think it's crucial that everyone have the freedom of choice to only choose the relationship they want as long both parties consent and agree to the terms without any coercion or manipulation. I just think no one should go around throwing fits about how others don't suit their wants or standards. If he is chiildfree and does not want to date a single mother that's completely fine. I just don't care for the chronc vitreole and seething hatred some people …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:34 PM
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I would not be bothered if a legal process was created so as to recognize specific cases in which a parent did not want to proceed with having a child with someone, and the person who carried the pregnancy to term went against their wishes and denied an opportunity to abort. Factors would need to be considered to verify that such a thing occurred entirely by choice. The person would need to prove they attempted to inform the pregnant party of their dissent to have a child with them in no uncerta…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 09:25 PM
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hell yeah! Are you kidding me? I love me a man with some chest hair and goofy ahh sense of humor. Also big fan of the "dad bod" and I love spooning a short king
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:39 PM
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Not sure if this question is for me but: Has most if not all of their teeth clean, hygenic / skin isn't unwashed and greasy / nails aren't full of dirt and untrimmed etc Hair is brushed / washed & well cared for / No matted hair ( Bald is also totally fine just take care of your hair if you have it ) and the same for facial hair, groomed and cared for if he has any and not a super long dirty amish-style neck beard. Clothes and shoes are not torn up, smelly and full of holes or heavily stained, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:33 PM
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at this point you're just agreeing with me and being pedantic about what constitutes the words believe and trust lol. I'm done I don't care anymore go off lol. Believe, don't believe, it sounds like you're mad and accusing woman of all being the same but secretly want someone to want you so you can see if their actions match, but no one will let you find out because you're annoying af. Have fun with that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:19 PM
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" To just believe them, instead of proving why I should believe them by actions. " - If you read literally any of what I've wrote you'd know that I strongly support looking at a person's actions to reaffirm that they are being truthful. But you're arguing that you don't want to look at their actions, you want to operate on bias before you even get to know them as an individual. How is them existing as a woman an action? If you simply assume the worst in others, you don't give them the chance to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:04 PM
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" It’s a discussion of what we’ve seen and experienced them as a group consistently lie or be deceptive about. " - that is called a gendered bias. I am not a "group" I'm an individual and I'm telling someone what I genuinely feel and think while they are choosing to operate with bias. That is genuinely terrible communication to believe a gendered bias over what someone is telling you to your face and it's a recipe for disaster and failed relationships for the rest of your days. If you assume eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:31 PM
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There is a difference between refusing to read between the lines and being a doormat. I do initially believe others and accept what they say at face value to the best of my ability and refuse to read the lines as much as I can and when they do things that do not reflect what they say, I recognize that they're being dishonest and I simply acknowledge the lie and discontinue contact. You do not have to blindly act on your choice to believe what they say ("I'd never abandon you if you were pregnant…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:03 PM
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Even neurodivergent people have a tendency to avoid certain difficult topics but yes, neurotypical people can be extremely passive aggressive because they're afraid of confrontation and rely on others to read between the lines. However even between other Neurotypical folks, a lot of what they're saying is misconstrued because whether people admit it or not, there is no universal passive aggressive language that humans speak. r/relationships and r/AITAH are clear cut examples of how people misrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:54 PM
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believing them and assuming is the only version of events where good and open honest communication can actually be fostered. Assuming everyone is lying and engaging in mind games means that you cannot have good communication because you're both choosing to forgo it and be honest. If they lie it's on them and you can cut them out for lying. If you play along, you waste valuable time not knowing what each other really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:31 PM
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No what I mean to say is that an important element of good communication IS the part of believing others and taking what they say at face value rather than playing any sort of mind games to encouragement passive aggressivism and bad communication. Good Communication is: 1. being openly and fully honest and expressing what your feelings, boundaries, and desires as appropriately as possible so that the people you love can genuinely understand what you need to be happy with them AND 2. fully listen…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:29 PM
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Because it's how good communication works. Any healthy functioning relationship is built on honestly and open communication. Everyone knows that humans have a tendency to lie or at least sugar coat the truth. People pleasing and keeping the peace, or dishonesty for the sake of self image, are ingrained social behaviors to ensure that we function together as tribe, but learning how to adjust these somewhat manipulative or self-sacrificing behaviors to be more honest and effective so that we can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:47 PM
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I'm a woman with pretty severe ADHD and it has definitely impacted my life and dating experiences. Neurodivergencies can mean not understanding so much of the subtext of social expectations, and it's turned me into a rather paranoid and untrusting person who really cannot pick up on if people sincerely like me with a lot of insecurities. From my experience it is not as simple as like attracts like, as when two neurodivergent people date they don't cancel each other's problems out, instead they b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:49 PM

give me one recent study that supports this ridiculous claim
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:32 PM

Hilarious. I met my partner long after college. Our relationship is anything but shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:46 AM
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Okay this is a super interesting question. I suppose to a smaller degree yes, many women have more extreme concepts of romance in theory than they would enjoy in reality. A great example being the extreme power dynamics and stalking behavior of men in romance / smut novels. Thankfully we are quite self aware of this but I think you’re onto something
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:56 AM
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Not every monogamous relationship ends up in a dead bedroom is the thing. It’s pretty normal for the sex to decrease a little after some time but not all couples just lose the spark forever and can only solve it by sleeping with others. I personally find it worth the time and energy to work on a relationship if that spark starts to dwindle. A lot of assumptions are being made in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:47 AM
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Thankfully I’ve actually gained weight from my lowest at 103 pounds! Though many say their ideal weight for a woman is 110 and under. So at 113 I still worry I could be thinner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:28 AM
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I never told guys not to approach me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:32 PM
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I’m flattered but I honestly think most people are fairly attractive and don’t believe in leagues anyhow. But I grew up the ugly kid in school and I’m also a bit dense and neurodivergent so I can never tell why people are acting the way they do and if it’s all in my head
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:23 PM
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<image> Not trying to be vain just giving my best description for context of the fact that I’m aware I have some good features but I’m also “strange” and potentially ugly to a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:18 PM
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<image> As I explained to others I’m alternative looking so not everyone’s cup of tea. So I totally understand if you don’t think I’m pretty in the least as I honestly cannot tell what is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:13 PM
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No like any of these things 3 times a week not all of them 3 times a week. Like one honk, one weird nod, and one random introduction a week lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:23 AM
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See that worries me because if I’m unattractive and just being hit up because they’re shy or lonely then I fear I couldn’t keep them and make them want to be with me long term
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:13 AM
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when I was single, yes I did ask people and I'd say it was like 75% yes's but I often found that they'd be really awkward and shy, sometimes we'd end up dating and actually almost all of my relationships have been from me asking someone out first, but sometimes I didn't like feeling like I was carrying the entire social connection on my back. I think its gotten to me that most of if not all romantic / sexual relationships have been initiated by me and I've done most of the communicating in them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:18 PM
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IT IS yeah. It's pretty often. But I'm also not everyone's cup of tea. I was sharing with another commenter that I'm alternative looking and nerdy and considering how often this happens, you'd think it was odd no one ever just asks me out right? So it gets me thinking, maybe I'm ugly and people are just being nice to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:44 PM
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Okay thanks for the clarification! I'm not everyone's cup of tea. I'm nerdy and alternative with pink hair and lip ring so it makes sense that I'd probably attract "quirky" people, I just worry that I'm unattractive in general. I am 5' 6", 113 lbs, with shoulder-length fluffy pastel pink hair, medium-sized almond shaped brown eyes, pale skin with freckles, medium sized lips that are naturally fairly reddish-pink, small eyebrows, and a small nose. I'm no 10/10 but I'm sometimes considered a "Beck…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:38 PM
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Honestly, that's nice too. I'd like to think I'm a fun person to be around with a somewhat magnetic vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:30 PM
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I get some more "normal" interactions from men too but I just chalk them up to being nice. Men will just randomly say hello to me in social setting when I haven't interacted with them first, etc. I also wanna say in total this happens maybe 3 or 4 times a week, os like yeah, fairly often but not every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:14 PM
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Okay so you would assume most women get this type of attention and it doesn't necessarily mean you're attractive or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:13 PM
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all different men. sometimes on the street, sometimes in my office, just fairly regularly with various strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:53 PM
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I genuinely adore nerds, geeks, etc tbh. I'm in a relationship and don't respond to obvious come ons but am nice to people as much as I can be, so even though I get these things a lot I just assume they're being friendly. My boyfriend is an IT nerd, DnD playing, WoW enjoyed, ADHD diagnosed as well so like... yeah I probably do just attract that type of person. I suppose the question is if I'm attracting friends or interested people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:45 PM
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