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The campaigns he's referring to often paint all men as potential predators, and the implication that men need those campaigns to tell them not to be rapists in the first place is very insulting. But of course it's totally okay when a campaign paints all female rape victims as stupid sluts who weren't really raped anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:11 PM
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Is this really still a thing in the Western world? ... Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:08 PM
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It's funny, though, that it is always the victim that is being taught to take responsibility for their action, don't you think? Nobody is ever talking about the rapist taking responsibility, and accepting the morality of their action. The responsibility angle, curiously enough, appears to be mostly used as a way to further bludgeon the victim, never the perpetrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:07 PM
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Do you have any evidence that this is actually true, or are you just propagating baseless conjecture?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:02 PM
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In all fairness, she does have a point. Until the modern age, "rape" was considered the crime of raping a girl without her father's blessing. So the whole idea of women having agency and being capable of giving consent is a modern invention, presumably one that lupus would love to do away with if she had the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:01 PM
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People confuse responsibility with blame all the time. If you are primarily responsible for something, then how is it not primarily your fault also? Or, in other words, how on Earth do you assign responsibility without assigning the blame as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:58 PM
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You are assuming that "being" alpha that get plates is easy and a short journey. Sure, it does take some time to have 80% of all the sex on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:56 PM
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What RP's true effect has been I think is in spreading its ideas But TRP is totally not looking for recruits. Nope, nosireeee.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:54 PM
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Germanic tribes didn't cloister and veil women. Christianity didn't cloister and veil women. What a load of nonsense. Chivalric patriarchy bears no relation to the mascularchy of Islam Evidence, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:45 PM
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You haven't answered my question. Where does TRP acknowledge that there are male victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:40 PM
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Where does it do that? Sources, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 04:00 PM
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Western Europe was never like Afghanistan Medieval Europe was almost exactly like Afghanistan, minus the firearms and female university students.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:55 PM
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But the AFBB principle isn't based on any data to begin with, so what difference does that make?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:50 PM
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It's funny, because that is pretty much the Redpill party line as well, what with male victims being seen as inherently inferior to abusive sociopathic "alphas".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:49 PM
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Probably the first genuinely honest RPW I've seen on this sub...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:48 PM
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"All" doesn't really mean all in TRPspeak; it means "an unspecified amount above zero". Thus, when Redpillers say that "all women are like that", they really mean "there is an unspecified, and possibly unknown, number of women who are like that, which is greater than zero". AWALT is true even if there is literally only a single woman who is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:40 PM
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Baby don't hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:37 PM
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Except for homo_homini_lupus, of course, who will get special treatment, as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:34 PM
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We left that a little vague to account for context. For example, homo_homini_lupus' posts will never actually fall in that time period, nor will We_Are_Legion, Reginleifer, or any of the top level RP trolls from this sub ever fall under this rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:33 PM
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She won't be banned ever, because she's one of the moderators on RPW, and the mods think she is "open" and "easy to work with" (actual quotes).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:30 PM
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Serious question: Why does it matter to you what kind of sexual escapades your fwb/girlfriend/significant other has been up to in years past?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:24 PM
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Again, you are assuming things without data. As are you, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:20 PM
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Regardless, it is a fallacy to simply assume societal norms affect our biological sex drives more so than biology. It is also a fallacy to assume that the biological sex drive is a much larger factor in everyday behavior than societal norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:19 PM
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alphas like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, both known for their compassion and ability to relate to others. Who, unlike the military leadership Redpillers have such hard ons about, are actually proven to attract women. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:17 PM
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But humans don't want to just "eat, shit and fuck." Now now let's not be hasty. It's perfectly possible that the people on TRP really don't have any other ambition in life, than to eat, shit, and have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:15 PM
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It's pretty damn stupid most of the time, but evo psych is an enduring fad among PUAs and Redpillers, so sacrifices had to be made to appeal to the largest possible audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:14 PM
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Who is stalking? You just posted a direct comment to a post of mine, and I responded to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 02:40 AM
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/u/cheesypython disagrees: Yeah this pretty much nails it for me. If my wife wants to step up to the plate and make decisions then I am all for it, but what GENERALLY happens is she collates the information then comes to me and says, here are the options on said thing, what should we do. Is that equal? We think so and it works very well for us but you may another opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 11:51 PM
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Those are proper manly opinions, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 11:20 PM
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Also, another question is what is a male role? As a scaffolder, I see women do so called "male roles" all the time. Clearly that makes you a pussy and a wimp, because you are not badmouthing and harassing these women enough to make them quit and work proper "womanly jobs", like as a maid or a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 11:18 PM
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Which the OP showcases quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 11:16 PM
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First, here in Europe having feminist opinions, in fact having any kinds of opinions is an elite thing. Please stop making shit up about Europe, kthxbye
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 11:15 PM
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You and I have a different idea of what trolling is. Obviously, you don't recognize Redpill trolling as trolling, since you get your jollies from shitting on Dem Blueper Feminazis and don't want that to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 11:00 PM
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His posts are some of the best on this subreddit. He sure packs them full of condescension and mockery for anti-Rpers, which is obviously popular with guys who enjoy a good trolling of Dem Blueper Feminazis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:47 PM
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So pointing out facts is "cherry picking" in RedpillSpeak. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:37 PM
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I think a white supremacist wouldn't be interested in Eastern/alternative medicine There are plenty of white supremacists who are into neopaganism, occultism, or other esoteric nonsense. There's also a huge body of Nazi crackpot theories that have seeped into the general alt medicine/esoteric/woo-woo landscape. That seems to be a white girl, hipster racist kind of thing. And to me it seems that you're just reflexively terping without any real knowledge on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 09:26 AM
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You do understand what the "red pill" origins are right? A shitty analogy from the manosphere blog "Chateau Heartiste".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:52 AM
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All Men Are Rapists. Is that what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:51 AM
0

I think the comparison fits I've seen it compared to astrology elsewhere, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:50 AM
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Moral philosophers are just making things up without any basis. ... says the Objectivist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:38 AM
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Don't worry, cognitive dissonance and logical self-contradiction are perfectly alright when you're Redpill. Just accuse anybody who points out contradictions in your worldview of being "emotional" or a "lying feminist" and you should be fine!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:36 AM
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Don't worry, he'll dismiss those with a rhetoric sleight of hand, too. It's what he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:31 AM
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We are legion Lollercoaster. The king of Redpill trolls
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:24 AM
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How is slut a slur?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:19 AM
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If you understand research, demonstrate it. Don't brag about your STEM-dick online. "Doctor, heal thyself."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 08:17 AM
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Cannot respect sluts though. Why don't you respect yourself? You should be more positive about your own behavior, man. No need to beat yourself over your sexual history!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 07:56 AM
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It's what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 07:16 AM
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That is why so many of them are here and not trolling Which Redpillers on this sub haven't been trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 07:15 AM
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They say women can be child-like, that women are self-centered, and so on. Do you agree? I don't remember ever seeing them say women are supplicating and needy Not in those words. They merely stress that women are so emotionally unstable that they cannot take care of themselves without a proper hard cock alpha man to fuck lead them. and even if they did why would I care? Why wouldn't a Redpiller care what TRP has to say about their character and their worth as a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 07:12 AM
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It allows redpillers to discuss things with 'naysayers' and gain insight No Redpiller I have ever seen here has been trying to "gain insight" into other people's perspectives. It's all just circlejerking and evasive rhetoric here, spiced with a healthy amount of trolling dem Blueper Feminazis. Which would be a terrible strategy for gaining insight into others, but which works great when you want to attract supporters and are trying to distract from your ideology's flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 08:36 PM
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The thought of spending the rest of my life with someone who is supplicating and needy sounds so stifling and crushing. Then why do you think alpha men would want a relationship with a woman in the first place? After all, RP teaches us that women are by their very nature "supplicating and needy", as you put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 08:33 PM
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Didn't you claim in earlier posts that most alphas are sociopaths? Why would you be in a relationship with a sociopath?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 08:32 PM
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But unlike "alpha" or "beta", there are actual medical standards for when feeling down-in-the-dumps counts as a bona fide depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 08:30 PM
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If it's not "clinical" then you don't need "treatment".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 08:28 PM
1

Do you think Asians are good at math? No. Some Asians are, but it would be stupid to say that this is a general trait all (or even most) Asians possess. Do you think Africans are good at sports? No. Some Africans certainly are, but it would be stupid to say that this is a general trait all (or even most) Africans possess. (Not a great many African nations winning at the Olympic Games, for example...) Do you think Caucasians have all the money and power? No. Some Caucasians absolutely do, but it …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 08:25 PM
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BTW, and I know you won't care about it since it doesn't support your preconceived ideas, here is the link to a study on HRT effects on emotions, for both MtF and FtM transsexuals: http://iiav.nl/ezines/web/IJT/97-03/numbers/symposion/ijtvo05no03_02.htm Paired comparisons showed that MtFs experienced significantly more positive emotions (t=2.03, p<0.05), whereas FtMs experienced significantly more aggressive (t=2.77, p<0.01) and sexual feelings (t=2.40, p<0.05) than they actually expected as a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 08:02 PM
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The whole point of what I'm saying is that upon taking "female" hormones in HRT, MtF transexuals will claim a higher emotional depth, and just in general feel much more empathetic. And because you have no idea about biology, this makes you conclude that "female" hormones make you "emotional". Which is provably wrong. Most Transsexuals undergoing HRT experience powerful emotion, no matter if they're MtF or FtM. That's because such a drastic change in their hormonal makeup will throw anybody's emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 07:51 PM
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You still didn't answer my question. Because your question is an inane non sequitur. Why does it matter whether I have personally undertaken HRT? Because you think it's some kind of trump card to shut me up? Transsexual people undergo massive changes in their hormonal makeup, but how is that proof that there a hormone that makes you "emotional"? Any emotion-influencing hormone can make you "emotional", that's what they do. Serotonine, dopamine, estrogen, testosterone, it doesn't matter. Heck, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 07:36 PM
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We are not recruiting. Is that why Redpillers, Redpill mods, and Redpill Endorsed Contributors keep flocking to this sub to put their own ideology in the most favorable light for would-be bystanders?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 07:26 PM
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You know what would make debating in this subreddit easy? If we had a definition of the thing we're peddling/dismantling Which is exactly why you will never get a comprehensive definition of TRP. TRP doesn't want a rational debate, because a rational debate inherently disadvantages TRP. Even the mods of this sub acknowledge this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 07:23 PM
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Cry about it, maybe that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 07:09 PM
1

"All humans have only one leg" - Literally True Statement according to RP logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 07:06 PM
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Have you tried a biology class?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:59 PM
0

"Redpillers don't understand how normal people think" - Accurate statement, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:58 PM
0

"Redpill men are biologically incapable of rational thinking" - Accurate statement. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:58 PM
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"All Redpillers are illiterate and have major mommy issues" - Accurate statement. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:57 PM
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"All Redpillers have tiny dicks" - Accurate statement. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:57 PM
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There's no need to be condescending now, I'm trying to keep this lighthearted. He's a hardcore terper. Condescension is the only form of speech they voluntarily engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:57 PM
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"All Redpillers are whiny assholes" - accurate statement. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:56 PM
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"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:53 PM
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"All Black People are Like That" or "All Jews are Like That" is offensive for literally the same reason. Which also explains why there are a lot of Redpillers with antisemitic or white supremacist beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:51 PM
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This is utter bullshit stemming from a complete lack of knowledge of human biology. There is not a single hormone in the male body that has been shown to do that. There is not a single serious study that proves men have weaker emotions than women. Also, as has been said, you are confusing transvestites with transsexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:49 PM
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Men typically only require that a women is physically attractive and pleasant. In other words, their love is bound by the CONDITIONS of beauty and submission. In order words, you either do not know what the words mean that you are using, or you are making up your own personal definitions for these words and then disingenuously pretend that they are commonly accepted definitions. Which do you think is the case here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:44 PM
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So what exactly is the nuance? The nuance is that for a Redpiller, their words mean whatever they want them to mean, not how the majority of the population would understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:40 PM
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Try not taking everything so literally. So when you're talking about "unconditional love", you're not actually talking about unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:39 PM
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The red pill doesn't really advocate that men are noble. True. TRP never explicitly says that men are noble, only that they are more productive, more rational, and better at building and managing things, including the lives of women, because women are too infantile and stupid to properly take care of themselves (or other people). Also, that all achievements in Western society were brought to us by men, and only men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:33 PM
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Obviously, women who are depressed just need some RP alpha to fuck them out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:29 PM
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... and yet another RP troll who the mods will ignore, as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:28 PM
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God you are so funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 11:10 PM
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So taking my time to correct a very common misunderstanding of a historical phenomenon is pedantry. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 09:00 PM
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So because a professional cellist (who is not identical to the fictional character of Rosie the Riveter by the way) feared she would never be able to work a job she wasn't qualified to do in the first place, you believe that no woman ever worked in a steel factory.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 08:39 PM
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What do you think happens to soldiers that don't treat their black superiors with respect? The same things that happen to soldiers that don't treat their female superiors with respect? I can guarantee you that if there is one thing no military looks kindly upon, it's insubordination.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 08:34 PM
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Social experimentation was all the rage Weird, then, that the US army would relive a practice that used to be commonplace in literally every pre-industrial society in the world instead. (Women in military logistics and support roles are not a recent phenomenon).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 08:32 PM
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What do you mean free speech isn't a problem? Its one of the most relevant issue of our world. Then we should be thankful we have Putin, one of our supreme manly alpha lords, working on it, right? I'm sure he will quickly solve the problem of free speech, right after solving the problem of feminism and the problem of homosexuality. Or maybe he will solve them all at the same time! He is, after all, one of the supreme alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 11:47 AM
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Pointing out facts sure is a sign of anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 11:44 AM
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Do you think the situation of blacks is comparable to the situation of women, today or ever in american history? So why don't we care about the fee-fees of racists, but do care about the fee-fees of people who hate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 11:42 AM
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This teenager's friends are as clueless as him or her, and I would argue that the main sources of lasting influence are the ones that stay after school. I wonder how humankind actually reproduces when it is so monumentally antisocial as to be literally incapable of interacting with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 11:40 AM
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I don't consider homosexuality or free speech "problems", as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:17 PM
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who knows no better than the strange social cues given by family and mass media Does this teenager have no friends, or any kind of social contact with other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:15 PM
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A reliably successful dating strategy is of no use if you want to attract a following. You need to advocate a system that has men always coming back to you and asking for yet more advice, that way you can shill your self-help books and your Totally Honest Guide to How I banged all the Chicks Everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:01 PM
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Why aren't women in combat support/service roles challenging "a traditional male role"? As far as I know, the US military branches have been almost entirely male-staffed for more than a century at least. So what's "traditionally male" about combat roles specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:58 PM
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You say "Godwin", I say "things that Redpillers have factually said, 1-2 days ago, on this sub".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:46 PM
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Do you think racial integration was a mistake, because it stepped on the feelings of racists in the military?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:43 PM
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Redpill makes men especially nice guys realize that they are doing it wrong. Which is why they keep doing the exact same thing, but now with insults and abuse instead of flowers and entitled whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:25 PM
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What problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:23 PM
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I predict that this trolling comment, like the rest of your RP trolling and circlejerking, will not be deleted by the mods, because god forbid we mod proper upstanding Red Pill ideas such as "all women are whores".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:21 PM
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How is that any different from men pretending they know what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:19 PM
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rather our society expects you to "just know" how to do it. You could argue that people don't learn social skills at the same speed, or at the same time; but claiming that there is no phase where people are expected to learn social skills is just unleaded bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:18 PM
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Nerdy guys ... Oh for fuck's sake. Liking videogames or being into scifi/fantasy literature is not a mental psychosis, nor does it turn you into a different species that functions unlike any other human beings. EDIT: For perspective, here are the nerdy guys in my circle of friends: Law student, happily married CompSci student, girlfriend Doctor, girlfriend English MA, single CompSci Student, single Train conductor, girlfriend BioChemistry PhD, well-satisfied with one night stands Geology student…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:06 PM
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We need more, hey this is a person and I am a person and can we just talk a bit and see if we connect. Talking is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:04 PM
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By the same token, women need to stop saying "but you're a nice guy and someone out there is perfect for you" (or anything like that). So you would prefer if a woman you liked told you "I don't care about you, so please stop bothering me and never talk to me again"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:53 PM
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Why don't you go ahead and compare yourself to Jews, and feminists to Nazis? You know you really, badly want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:52 PM
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He isn't "nice" (effectively a doormat) because he only wants to get laid, but because he thinks that his pedestalizing and his court/friend-ship efforts is what is supposed to lead to romantic (not just sexual) success. In other words, he is nice because he thinks it will get him laid. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:51 PM
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It sounds to me that showering her with gifts and niceties doesn't work so why shower her with anything? Exactly! Don't shower her with abuse and shitty behavior just because some idiot on the internet told you so!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:49 PM
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Most nice guys aren't like that [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:46 PM
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I think the ironic thing is that "nice guys" usually aren't even particularly nice. They are just socially awkward losers* who can't get over being rejected by a woman. *) And I say that as a (former) socially awkward loser, so go fuck yourself with your "whine whine you don't know how it is when you're awkward and alone and nobody wants to fuck you whine whine whine"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:44 PM
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Terpers sure do love their totalitarian beliefs, what with all the circlejerking over Dark Enlightenment topics over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:39 PM
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The only thing I like is that Russia is no friend of feminism. Or homosexuality. Or free speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:39 PM
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Vladimir Putin is a hero to the manosphere. A lot of people in Redpill consider him a "true alpha" and paragon of masculinity and contrast him with the effeminate Obama, who they disdain. Which just goes to show how stupid a lot of people in the "manosphere" really are. Putin's image is created by Russian state propaganda, it only differs from old school Stalinist propaganda in that it's being spread over the internet with memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:36 PM
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Rosie the Riveter quit her job after a couple weeks. I would really like to see your source for that story, since Rosie the Riveter is a fictional person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_the_Riveter#History
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:22 PM
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it was mostly propaganda, they trumpeted up any successful snipers They also trumpeted up any successful male snipers, so what's your point? That female soldiers were just as much part of the Soviet propaganda machine as male soldiers? Doesn't that actually undermine your point that women are incapable of functioning like proper soldiers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:21 PM
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something as important as the military I mean, who else is going to incinerate civilians in places you can't spell?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:17 PM
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Strength will ALWAYS be important for the military. As will the size of your cock. Because you can't be a manly manly alpha marine if you don't have a HUGE DICK.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:16 PM
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And your conclusion is that this is the fault of letting women on ships? And not, say, that this kind of behavior might be just typical for sailors in general? Assuming "your friend" didn't just exaggerate, or make up the story whole cloth, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:07 PM
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factors such as choice of career and years worked Why again are these factors unimportant when considering economic equality? I might as well claim that all men are equally wealthy, because any gap in income/wealth between two men can be explained away with socioeconomic distinctions of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:56 PM
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as women have (largely) achieved economic equality [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:49 PM
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Are you going to answer my question when you are done trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:48 PM
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So you're now argueing that women shouldn't be on a ship because all women are STD ridden whores. BTW, I would love to find anything approaching evidence for this bullshit story of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:46 PM
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Is your question really, "how is it possible that you and some other random person disagree??" Is that really your question? Really? No. My question is: Where's the difference between "practical advice" and "a toolbox of stuff that works"? Which you would have known if you had bothered to read my comment before you shat all over it. But then again why would you bother with that, you're just a dime-a-dozen RP troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:45 PM
-3

Last time I checked, men can contract and spread STDs just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:42 PM
-5

What does any of this have anything to do with my point again?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:41 PM
1

So the reason why there shouldn't be any women in the US military is because US servicemen hate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:39 PM
1

you live in the Western world and receive the benefits of it. But you don't, because something something "feminized society".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:51 AM
6

"Most online dating sites have a surplus of younger men and older women, reflecting the social realities of the dating world." -- Antone Johnson, Former VP at eHarmony
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:44 AM
2

Like a lot of Redpill men, he doesn't really know what hypergamy actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:43 AM
4

Then why are so many Redpillers here insisting that the military's policies should depend on gender politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:42 AM
1

ask the NAVY about their pregnant sailors But don't ask the NAVY about their sailors' pregnant wives, girlfriends, flings, FWBs, or prostitutes. The military serves to protect the country, and it may just be more effective at doing so by excluding women from certain jobs. I also think we should exclude men from leading and administrative positions, since men are typically less capable of handling stress and mental exertion than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:34 AM
2

A simple "no" would have been enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:37 AM
0

TRP is just calling it like it is. For example: Women are machiavellian, deceitful, childish, flakey gold diggers who need to be led because they cannot take care of themselves. Totally neutral, no value judgement at all, nosireeeeee.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:30 PM
0

How does being an overbearing asshole stop you from being ignored or cheated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:29 PM
2

Have you tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:25 PM
1

"Pickup" is supposed to be practical advice. TRP is supposed to be "a toolbox of methods that work", as described by several long time RPers and one endorsed contributor. Where's the difference between "practical advice" and "a toolbox of stuff that works"? Not expecting a serious answer, after all you're just here to troll just like the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:22 PM
1

It's okay, you're not alone. Most Redpill men are naturally solipsistic and incapable of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:19 PM
1

I'm curious, do you believe that men are naturally deceitful, flakey, childish, and need to be led because they can't take care of themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:18 PM
2

Oh look! A troll from TRP! Old account and still circlejerking and trolling like no tomorrow, and of course, the mods will ignore this because you're one of their precious redpill contributors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:16 PM
1

Do you seriously believe red pillers walk around in the real world, off the internet, spouting off sexist remarks and insulting women? I don't know about redpillers specifically, but I've encountered those kinds of statements in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:13 PM
1

I respect women more as red pill advocate than I ever did previously. Red Pill says that women are by their very nature machiavellian, deceitful, childish, flakey gold diggers. Would you mind explaining how your view of women could have been possibly worse than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 11:12 PM
0

Why are you trolling and attacking the OP, instead of engaging with the issue under discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:57 PM
8

I'm pretty sure domination is hormonally male By which you mean, you have no clue because you don't know a thing about biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:56 PM
2

He's just trolling you, best to ignore him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:55 PM
1

So anything you don't actively seek out doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:54 PM
-1

So basically you're complaining that other people aren't talking more about your personal problems and trying to make you, personally, feel better about them. Are all RP men this solipsistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:51 PM
0

I've never heard TRP say that. Aaaand No True Redpiller. Looks like we're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 10:43 PM
2

How are child support laws cruel or unjust towards men specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:23 PM
-1

Because when all you have is a muffin, everything looks like a doily. I ain't no doily, OP. So, homophobia and/or gender identity issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:20 PM
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Like refusing to accept that physical attractiveness is more important than presenting as dominant and "alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:18 PM
2

And that's why TRP teaches things that aren't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:12 PM
1

So it's to make Redpillers feel better about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 08:06 PM
-1

Paying alimony for your biological children is not "being forced into parenthood".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 07:16 PM
0

men,..., who are currently being forced in to parenthood Really? In which country on this planet does that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 07:11 PM
1

TIL there were no socially awkward losers 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 07:09 PM
0

It's true, ALL women ALWAYS want to be submissive in bed. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 07:01 PM
1

When you apply science to female sexuality what you get is a big load of gibberish. But when you apply TRP to female sexuality, you get the undistilled truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:50 PM
0

Granted, as a Redpiller you probably do have some extensive experience of bullshit studies that tell you exactly what you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:48 PM
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Women are attracted to "physical attractiveness" and masculinity. Which is what RP preaches. Show me a single approved RP source that says physical attractiveness is much more important than presenting as dominant and masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:46 PM
2

There's a lot of Redpillers who pose as "Purple" or "Neutral" but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:42 PM
2

Women are given favourable treatment TIL that the glass ceiling is really a form of favorable treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:33 PM
0

Men don't have the ultimate say in whether a child is produced. That doesn't mean they are not responsible for whether a child is being produced, or that the child is not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 06:27 PM
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So being arrested for hiring a prostitute is oppression? Do you think arresting prostitutes is also oppression? If yes, then why do you believe men are uniquely oppressed in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:54 AM
2

Why do you think getting slightly lower marks at school is "prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:20 AM
1

Could you name some examples of this actually occurring in reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:18 AM
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...Yes? Are you really telling me that getting an abortion is shits and giggles? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_abortion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion#Surgical
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:17 AM
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I trust women to be smart enough to realize this and only carry a child to term when they have a partner who will sign this (or accept the possibility of going alone). But you don't trust men to only fuck bareback when they are willing to pay alimony for their future child. Why not? Are we assuming that men are incapable of planning for the future because they cannot think while hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:16 AM
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He wanted men to experience something similar to an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:14 AM
2

So, you are argueing that being shielded from any and all consequences is exactly the same as being stuck with raising a child for the next 18 years. Is that the argument you are advancing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 03:13 AM
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What does this have to do with anything? Did you even read the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:54 PM
2

Exactly, then we are at the exact point that you claimed wouldn't happen: You think men are just going around bareback-fucking everything they see and then gaming the system to not pay for all the children they're making?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:53 PM
2

How is any of that "prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:25 PM
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So would you be fine with male financial abortions if they drive what ever distance to go to an abortion clinic? I'd be okay if it involved an invasive medical procedure. Maybe an anal probe, or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:22 PM
0

produce a form that has to be signed by both parties before the child's birth that says they are both committed to financially supporting the child (until an arbitrary date in the future), and use that as the legal precedent for child support. What if the father doesn't sign such a form? Why would any man want to sign such a form?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:17 PM
0

You seem to implying that existing paternity laws are unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:16 PM
1

Why do women get to sleep around and then choose when they want a kid? After all, every woman can tell you that abortion is a trivial thing, no more invasive or annoying than taking out the trash on weekdays.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:15 PM
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I mean to say that 20% < of men are getting 80% of the available women is a very bold claim. That's because a lot of RPers don't know how to apply the Pareto Principle in a way that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 08:59 PM
2

when you provide me the links to 30+ yr old RPW claiming to have "found unique love" with "alphas", rude demand-y pants. What does this have to do with your claim that my description of Rp theory is "shrill and bizarre"? How am I supposed to have a discussion with you if you aren't willing to elaborate on even the most basic elements of your argument? go fuck yourself I see you are falling to your usual responses to criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 08:24 PM
0

HHL doesn't believe in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 08:22 PM
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Could you please point out which part of my description of RP theory you found "shrill and bizarre"? All of the claims I made in that comment are either supported by RP texts that can be found either through TRP's sidebar, or logically valid conclusions drawn from those texts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 05:20 PM
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Cool story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 05:05 PM
1

...Well?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 04:56 PM
2

We aren't TRP. From your own sub's sidebar: "We agree with /r/TheRedPill in it's description of male and female nature and seek to apply it to our lives."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 04:52 PM
1

I don't know about feminists But we are talking about feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 04:50 PM
1

Where does Orwell mention feminism in that article?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:28 AM
1

Why do you need to rationalise it with "well she did it before and she won't do it with me, therefore the bitch is just AFBBing me"? Because it heaps all blame for ending the relationship on her, and reinforces a view of himself as a nice guy who got cheated by destiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:22 AM
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So if people made it known to you how much they despise Redpillers, you claim that you wouldn't whine and cry how mean and unfair they are? A likely story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:06 AM
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I think you're under the misconception that TBP is some kind of universal panel of judges that tell you what you are and are not "allowed" to do with regards to sex and relationships. That is a rather immature, if not downright infantile, conception of ethics and ethical behavior. Put simply, it doesn't matter whether anybody thinks you're "allowed" to do something; what matters is how you evaluate your own behavior, and what values inform that evaluation. Contrary to what TRP tells you, you wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:01 AM
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20% of all males have always been fucking 80% of all females. Check your Redpill sidebar, ask your fellow redpillers how things really work. Your own ideology predicts that you will die alone and a virgin, beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 01:59 AM
0

Sounds like you're hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 01:56 AM
1

TIL feminists are literally controlling our speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 01:53 AM
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Married women aren't IN the marketplace. Sure they are. Humans are hypergamous, remember? Trading up or down can happen at any time, not just while you're a teenage virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 01:46 AM
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Do I know you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 09:12 PM
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It's particularly funny in light of several very prominent Red Pill Women who are way beyond their 30s, and yet claim that they have found a unique love with their supposed "alpha" husbands. Even though their own ideology calls them used goods that are worthless on the Sexual Marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 09:04 PM
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LOL so many MRAssholes crying out their butthurt in here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 10:18 PM
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It's gonna be a sure bet that is going to be dismissed and ignored by the Redpillers on this sub, just like any of the previous studies that have been posted here. Still, kudos for bothering to engage them with empirical evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 05:49 PM
0

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 05:44 PM
1

Altruism is putting the interests of others above your own. And RPS expects other RPers to put his interest in growing the community over their own. Which fits your definition of altruism. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 12:48 AM
0

And amoral doesn't necessarily mean evil, although it doesn't mean good. It means self interest takes priority. Making self interest a priority already implies a moral framework. An "amoral" strategy is simply one that does not take morality into account at all (or only in the sense of how it informs other people's actions).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:31 PM
1

Then why does RedPillSchool REQUIRE altruism?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:27 PM
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So if you don't want to be perceived as narcissistic by other people - stop doing those things. Very few people are actually capable of just changing their entire behavior overnight. Heck, even making lasting changes to your behavior over a long time takes a lot of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:21 PM
0

Judging from the disproportionally aggressive tone of your response, I don't think it's "the chicks" who are looking to rationalize their rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:10 PM
1

Then why are you relying on kooky bloggers, conspiracy theorists, and angry anonymous internetters to provide evidence for climate change, and not the vast body of authoritative scientific research?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:15 PM
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Why try to talk to a girl if you run the risk of being labeled a creeper/tryhard/etc.? If the people you talk to consistently call you a creep, then maybe they are not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:12 PM
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No True Redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:07 PM
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It's almost as if he is bragging. Because god forbid, no true RP man would ever brag about his perceived achievements!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:00 PM
2

The TRP sidebar is deliberately peppered with fake Rp texts to flush out Bluepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 05:59 PM
2

I agree that TRP has a high quantity of "Look at this single case of a woman completely destroying another man's life!" then the others jumping in and saying that this is every woman. Which is, you know, one of the essential core parts of TRP theory. AWALT and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 05:55 PM
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I'm curious, if a woman reads an article on how to better please her boyfriend in bed, is that what you think of when you talk about "manipulation"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 05:50 PM
2

None of those are based in any sort of scientific evidence, though Then again, neither is TRP, so that element of the comparison is somewhat apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 05:50 PM
2

Won't this be just flat out impossible to mod, given that the existing mod team is already just barely able to keep up with user reports to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 05:47 PM
3

Would you guys care to elaborate on what you consider a "circlejerk"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:32 PM
0

Key element: "by that logic".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:25 PM
0

It does illustrate nicely the mindset that drives Redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:23 PM
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Preferably, something that tells them it's the fault of the women who rejected them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:14 PM
2

TRP subscribers don't want TRP to be true Is that why you go to PPD to propagate your RP opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:13 PM
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....is there a point to this post? You mean other than trolling? Considering that the OP's last few threads were nothing but trolling statements, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:10 PM
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Not only are you implying that she is lying, you also found a clever way to call her fat and ugly! How clever!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:05 PM
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You are not a RP woman therefore your bf is no alpha. Perfectly consistent RP logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:03 PM
0

Yea, I suspected that only advice that conforms to RP beliefs counts as advice for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 06:00 PM
1

What a great example for the Strawman Fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 05:57 PM
1

Which is completely irrelevant to the issue that's being discussed; namely, the claim that there exists no non-RP dating advice for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 05:52 PM
1

Controlling, narcissistic, domineering etc. All qualities that RPers embrace and support to the hilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:57 PM
1

I agree. But you didn't talk about wanting sex. You claimed that the entire male population is sex obsessed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:56 PM
1

Except TRP goes way beyond the seduction community. Yes, I know. That's why I categorized it as non-RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:53 PM
0

Somewhat Then how come that the abstract is dated from 2015? How can TRP base its theories on this paper, when TRP significantly predates this paper's public release?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:52 PM
1

The thing is, TRP is one of the only non-PC dating advice arenas that exists. Wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:52 PM
0

Here are seven, which I found with Google in less than 3 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:50 PM
1

that doesn't mean they're any more sex obsessed than the rest of the male population
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:41 PM
2

Context matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:35 PM
1

That argument depends on the assumption that the entire male population measures its self worth and social status solely and exclusively with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:28 PM
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i.e. "TRP'ers are only capable of having dysfunctional relationships with weak women". That's not what the part you quoted says. Haters tend to gravitate towards being players tend to (followed by a to infinitive) to be likely, or probable to do something, or to have a certain characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:25 PM
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If a man has no interest in a sexual relationship with a woman, one of them are dead, he is gay, or she is is really hideous. This is a splendid example of toxic masculinity: The presumption that any man, anywhere, must always want sex all the time, or he isn't a proper man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:18 PM
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The thing about feminist literature (like Gender Trouble) is that it's just as, or even bigger, pseudoscience than TRP reading material. How can it be pseudoscience when it doesn't pretend to be science? TRP could easily avoid the pseudoscience accusation if they didn't insist that their ideas about male and female role models were based on "biology" and evopsych.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:17 PM
-1

Yet again, you oversimplify a complicated matter and pour disdain on nerdy males. I wasn't talking about nerdy males. I was talking specifically about the type of male who is drawn to RP philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:09 PM
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Sure, if you already believe that TRP is the correct way to look at the world, non-RP dating advice won't do anything for you, because you're not going to take anything they say seriously to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:08 PM
1

Germany in the 30s was pretty sucky most of the time no matter who you were, but the Nazis were slowly improving things. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:07 PM
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You're getting too bogged down in the 'evolutionary' aspect. Yea. RP theory's invocation of evolutionary theory is barely more than a just-so story that uses pseudoscientific phrases. It has little to no basis in the actual theory of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:22 PM
1

That's the beauty of RP theory: Every RP guy has his own theory, that changes with their needs, wants, fetishes, the time of the day, and the phases of the moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:19 PM
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There already is plenty of dating advice out there that isn't Red Pill. In fact, the overwhelming majority of dating advice that can be found isn't Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:15 PM
0

You may have also noticed that TRP tends to appeal to nerdy males. Ever sincerely wondered why? It's fairly easy to figure out why. They tend to uncritically accept, and attempt to adhere to, traditional male role models They tend to buy into the ideal male image constructed by mainstream media. Because of these two factors, they tend to equate their identity as men, as well as their social status, by the number of women they have had sex/relationships with As soon as you buy into the idea that …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:14 PM
1

Are you claiming that TRP bases its theories of sexual strategy on the evidence presented in the article you linked to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:58 PM
0

'Be confident' is about as useless a piece of advice as is 'just be yourself.' Or "be dominant". Have you read the article? What's so bad about the advice it gives? Why is your advice better?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 11:43 PM
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Yea, I didn't think you would adress my point, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:22 PM
1

no u
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:20 PM
2

He's bullshitting. He hasn't even read the study he linked to, and his BP-bashing is unsupported by even anecdotal, let alone verifiable, evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:33 AM
1

i posted a huge study with actual married and dating couples and the earning prospects correlation is .1, looks correlation .4 for men and women. Which I remember got dismissed by the overwhelming majority of RPers who didn't outright ignore it. Terper is as terper does...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:29 AM
1

TIL Bar Rafaeli is an authority on social trends and demographic surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:28 AM
2

So your argument is basically: "You are not allowed to criticize my model until you have created a competing model." aka "Astrology can really predict the future, because nobody came up with a model of prediction that claims predictive power on the same scale." EDIT: fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:21 AM
1

BP dismisses heuristics as ineffective and unethical [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:20 AM
1

I just couldn't compete with your dispassionate, balanced, neutrally phrased analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:06 AM
0

Honest question. Uh huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:02 AM
1

For all their pretense at being a self-help sub, TRP sure spends a lot of time and effort blaming other people for their failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:01 AM
-1

A boy gets dumped by his first high school GF. He comes home crying. His mother tells him "don't worry, you're a nice guy, there's someone out there who's perfect for you!" Often the woman who dumps him will tell him precisely the same thing as a way of letting him down gently. So what you are telling us is that RP guys are just people who are incapable of thinking figuratively.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:58 AM
1

No one outside of the manosphere is telling men to be dominant and to embrace their raw masculine ferocity. Here are the top three search results for ‘dating advice for men’ via Google. LOL. The very first article you linked to says: "Do Whatever It Takes to Get Some Confidence"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:54 AM
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Translation for non-RPers: "observable facts" = unsupported conjecture propagated by TRP, "ad hominem attack based on nothing" = claim supported by empirical evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:47 AM
0

And you said that TRP is "calling it out for what it is". So, what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:33 AM
1

If you say so, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:31 AM
1

How is that a traditional value?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:54 PM
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The blue pill is a more pleasant truth. I disagree. A huge portion of RP thinking is designed specifically to tell their audience what they want to hear, and absolve then of responsibility for their failures. It's maltheistic comfort food for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:53 PM
1

Redpill theory says that the Pareto Principle is real. Therefore, there cannot be more than 20% alphas, fucking 80% of all women. According to your own theory, you guys are going to die as virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:50 PM
0

traditional values kept around because they help women Which ones would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:48 PM
-1

Which is very close to how a lot of lower class women were being treated 100-150 years ago. That is the Terper's golden age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:43 PM
0

I don't see them "whining" about whole alpha beta thing, but calling it out for what it is. ...And? What is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:41 PM
-2

Is it not painfully obvious at this point that a large portion of the Western male population was taught those things? Where? When? How? By whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:38 PM
-2

I don't know, that sounds almost word for word like some of the RP arguments I've heard here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:37 PM
2

It's kind of funny. RPers so frequently try to be edgy, shocking, and "politically incorrect" (i.e. rude), yet as soon as they encounter the same attitude in others there is no end to their crying over how mean and unfair their opponents are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:34 PM
20

Next you're going to claim that there isn't a worldwide conspiracy of feminists to emasculate all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:31 PM
1

You are basing your argument on the idea that RPers are literally incapable of any form of social interaction that isn't bullying. I don't think anybody has claimed this at any point in the discussion. Why do you keep building up these straw man positions? If Dread Game were a perfectly legitimate way of social interaction, then surely it should be dead easy to defend it without resorting to these fallacious arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:28 PM
3

He's an endorsed contributor for TRP, and has written a significant portion of TRP's theory posts. Are you telling me that he is wrong in his interpretation of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 03:15 PM
2

Protip: Have a social life. As for talking to girls on the street, its probably a cultural thing, but where I live, the people who talk to complete strangers on the street are either: begging for money, drunk, or crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 03:09 PM
3

People can heal with their hands because if they couldn't, why would people flock to them in search for healing? Astronomy can predict the future, because why else would people believe that it can? UFOs really landed on Earth in ancient history, because why else would such stories be popular?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:54 PM
1

Then again I'm lonely enough to become an obnoxious asshole if that's what it takes. The guy from /u/pandorarosie 's comment got his latte ... Sounds like you are exactly the type of person we've been talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:47 PM
2

We_Are_Legion claims otherwise: Polarizing material, such as "women shouldn't vote" and "Women: the most responsible teenager in the house" is often posted for the express purpose to compel BPers to out themselves for easy banning. And lurkers to self-filter and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:44 PM
2

Do you believe people who are dating cannot bully one another? Do you believe that the only reason for someone to bully their partner is to make them have sex? If not, then your argument doesn't really refute anything that's been said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:39 PM
0

I don't know what's your problem. You made a statement of opinion. I responded with a statement of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:38 PM
0

I don't know why you're stalking me across sub-threads unrelated to you. This is the only thread I have ever responded to posts of yours. Look here: Same thread If you get paranoid when people respond to your posts, then maybe don't ask them questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:35 AM
4

It makes perfect sense when you think about it. No, it really doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:25 AM
5

There are prostitutes and similar sex workers in the world, so obviously, there is a significant quite a few women who use sexuality as a source of income. However, very few, if any, of these women ever come into a position of power because of that. Quite the contrary - sex workers are overwhelmingly marginalized, ostracized, oppressed, or even persecuted. EDIT: Also, I think you grossly exaggerate the actual number of women who work these jobs, and completely ignore that a not insignificant num…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:23 AM
1

Just like when RPS said he didn't want women to be able to vote!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:15 AM
1

That depends. Are you an obnoxious asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:06 AM
3

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how guys who run "game" are consistently ignoring negative feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:05 AM
1

I meant in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:00 AM
3

I agree. This isn't a question of logic or fairness, but one of personal preference. Nobody is entitled to a relationship with a specific person, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:53 AM
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RP people sure seem to get downvoted a hell of a lot Funny you would mention that, since every single RP comment here (except yours) has been upvoted to high heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:50 AM
1

But now her resistance doesn't matter any more. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:38 AM
0

forced to act perniciously. "forced"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:38 AM
0

Has nothing to do with it. So, choking is not torture. But not wanting to get choked by you is torture. You stalking me now? Yes, I am crazy in love with you. Why else would I reply to a guy's posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:35 AM
14

You have been misinformed. The actual satire subreddit is called /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:31 AM
-1

Worse than choking?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:30 AM
0

Do you always ask random people whether they had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:25 AM
1

So the answer is, one guy's troll account?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:22 AM
0

No. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:19 AM
1

Why don't you go and troll elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:18 AM
2

LMR is a RP myth to make them feel better for running roughshod over their partner's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:34 PM
0

Who asks why men don't get married? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:29 PM
-1

this doesn't apply if she did whatever the act was multiple times or across multiple different partners Why not? EDIT: Also, you're RP. Why are you answering a question posed to Bluepillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:31 PM
1

Often TRP will link to stories that are entirely made up. Why are RP men so credulous when it comes to accepting stories of fellow RPers, but then are constantly questioning or outright denying the validity of even highly scientific sources when these are presented to them by an anti-RPer?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:28 PM
3

100% of all people die. Yet, some live healthier lives than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:55 AM
3

This, oh so very much this. Empathy means seeing your partner as a real person, with all the stuff that makes for a real person. Whereas if you put somebody on a pedestal, you ignore that and turn them into an object of worship for you instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:48 AM
3

I would even argue that one feature of a healthy relationship is a healthy breakup; one that doesn't leave either or both parties with bad emotional scars...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:44 AM
1

Please show me where I insulted you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:38 AM
1

Why are you so obnoxious and retarded. Why are you incapable of responding in non-insulting ways? RPW do NOT claim to lack female nature, only to be AWARE of it Which does not imply that you are not compelled to act upon your inherent biological nature (remember, TRP says that female behavior is innate and tied to female biology!)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:36 PM
-1

I'm saying there's no way to win for a woman with these men. Of course not. Why would there be? It's an ideology designed to make them feel good about treating women as sex objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:38 PM
2

Women are not inherently evil. I think they're inherently flakey and unrealistic. So... just like men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:31 PM
3

And yet you can literally time the death of a relationship to the moment in which a man acts emotionally weak. [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:31 PM
7

You are confusing empathy with worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:30 PM
10

If everything is right, you don't break up or are unhappy You are shifting goalposts. We were talking about healthy relationships, not perfect ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:29 PM
10

10% of all relationships would be "plenty" in absolute numbers. Relatively seen? Not so much. If you are already predisposed to see most relationships as men helplessly trapped by evil conniving women, then most relationships will look that way to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:12 PM
4

A relationship based on reciprocal exchanges, rather than transactional ones. A relationship based on mutual affection, rather than one partner putting the other on a pedestal. A relationship based on honesty and mutual support, rather than trying to one-up one another with mind games and emotional manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:08 PM
2

IME it depends a lot on who is "on duty" so to speak. /u/CFRProflcopter is usually very diligent in following up on reports; some others, less so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:00 PM
-2

Sure, if you're a fish, you don't notice the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 04:12 PM
1

According to RP the majority of women are just like you, you are just very successful at rationalizing away your deep-seated desire to be dominated by a sexually potent alpha male. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:11 PM
0

You claimed PPD is somehow a RP safe haven (because apparently mods don't delete their supposed circle jerking posts). I'm saying if that were true BPers wouldn't be able to come in here and argue with them. The second statement does not follow from the first. Obviously PPD is intended to be a debate sub, but there are many fewer RPer than non-RPers on Reddit (despite Reddit's generally anti-feminist, pro-MRA slant), so extra care is necessary to attract RP members. A "safe space" would actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:09 PM
0

I'm sending reports all the time. Not my fault if your fellow mods don't feel like they warrant moderator action... ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 10:47 AM
0

What kind of incoherent nonsense is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:42 AM
3

Like in this thread, you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:37 AM
0

Case in point. EDIT: And now you're sending in the Terper brigades. How unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:29 AM
2

O hai trollboy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:24 AM
2

Well, at least you're not denying that you're exhibiting that kind of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 12:18 AM
10

Neither example works. Exactly. And neither does your insistence that misogyny means "hatred of women" only in the narrow and literal sense of "hatred".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:17 PM
5

What's your opinion on human contact? Useless, or superfluous?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:06 PM
0

Does it make a difference to you if I do? No. You're still going to insult me, and any other woman who disagrees with you. Those whom you don't stalk in PMs, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:04 PM
4

Homophobe: "I think Homosexuals are an abomination unto God, but that doesn't mean I'm afraid of them." Racist: "Sure, I hate Mexicans and think they are lazy, dumb and inferior. But Mexican is not a race."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:52 PM
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Well, she's RP, so of course she would think that all women are alike, and have the mental and emotional capacity of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:47 PM
3

What is it with Christmas presents? I mean, why not just buy what you want for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:47 PM
2

According to the mods here, attacking entire groups of people is not a personal attack. So RP guys can circlejerk all they like about how all women are whores and hypergamous sluts, no mod will step in because it's not a personal insult, just regular RP circlejerking which isn't against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:42 PM
-1

For what its worth, you can disagree vehemently and still be polite. Is that why you keep insulting people who disagree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:40 PM
3

As long as we're all allowed to express our opinion I don't really care who's subscribed here. Except of course that we aren't. Despite its name PPD is intended to be a safe haven for TRP, not an open debate sub. That means we have to pretend that TRP is an internally consistent, rational ideology that needs to be treated with respect, even when the other side faces no such restriction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:36 PM
2

This. PPD was created to be a safe haven for Redpillers. Where else would they congregate to troll normal people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:23 PM
1

That sentence makes no sense. Perhaps rephrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:19 PM
2

"See? See? This clickbait article here tells me exactly what I want to hear! That means I am right!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:54 PM
5

Which is the exact opposite of how TRP teaches proper women should be: Young (preferably pre-highschool graduation), sexually inexperienced (preferably virgin), demure and passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:52 PM
2

"From the point of view of many TRPers who are asked this question, being a woman has many relevant similarities to the experience machine. You get to feel like you're accomplishing things, being respected, having meaningful relationships, and so on even without actually doing anything." I am curious, how did these TRPers experience life as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:50 PM
1

Because there are people whose identity is not based on their current gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:48 PM
0

I doubt you considered the nerds playing Magic: The Gathering back in high school particularly desirable masculine specimens. Unless they were winning, of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:38 PM
0

LOL. Does this posturing usually work?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 03:54 AM
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Not very.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:43 PM
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That's a lot of words to deflect attention from the fact that you've never worked in academia. I have worked in academia. You, apparently, have not. You're not used to people calling you out on your shit, are you? So much butthurt...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:34 PM
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that we agree about fundamental male and female nature. Who is "we"? she just added in a bunch of stuff about trp i didnt address She literally said she didn't care about Redpill men and their beliefs. That's the exact opposite of your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 11:34 PM
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And once again, we meet somebody who cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality. I'm starting to see a pattern here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:03 PM
1

you linked to a comment that agreed with me LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:00 PM
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I'll take that as your way of admitting that I was right. You are right, I don't think you've ever worked in academia. Because you sound exactly like the kind of "autodidactic" pseudo-intellectuals trying to self-publish their "racidal" theories that are a dime a dozen in university courses but almost never manage to get into academia professionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:51 PM
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Not a woman But of course that doesn't stop you from speaking for all women and pretending to know what they are thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:45 PM
1

you set the tone with insults and snark in your every interaction, i reply in kind. There was no snark or insult in my post. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you without getting insulting and aggressive, then maybe you shouldn't be hanging out in places where you get confronted with disagreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:35 PM
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I'm going to go ahead and make the assumption that one of us has worked in academia while the other has not. Yea, assuming that your opposite knows nothing is always a great way to start off a discussion. You have no idea how tight the red tape wraps around controversial ideas. EvoPsych is shit science in my opinion, but it is hardly "controversial". PI's constantly worry about their funding drying up, few can risk investigating politically non-viable ideas. Is that the reason you think your pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:33 PM
1

I didn't find any mention of TRP there. Maybe you could point it out to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:29 PM
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weirdo You really can't talk to people who disagree with you without insulting them, can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:47 PM
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Are we using the royal "we" again, dear? "OH MY GOD I don't caaaaaarrree what TRP has to say. As far as I'm concerned, they can jerk each other off and cry into their cheerios about them hypergamous sloooots." -- RPW quote, from this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:10 PM
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It's called "Straw Manning", and it's a logical fallacy. So is your entire argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:05 PM
1

BDSM is a subculture. It is a subculture that probably has a lot of growth potential, but it is still a subculture. Also BDSM is generally no more objectifying to women than regular sex, and in many ways less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:04 PM
1

American women by the MILLIONS absolutely fantasize about a Christian Grey type spanking her ass and objectifying her. Apparently, somebody here has a problem distinguishing fantasy from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:01 PM
2

Women definitely do objectify men's bodies and think 'sex' when they see one they consider 'hot'. That's not what "objectification" means, typically. Finding people physically attractive is generally only objectifying when the person in question is entirely reduced to those bodily characteristics. Your former example of looking at people as a collection of body parts (like the classic "tits n ass") is much closer to what objectification typically means in feminist thought than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:01 PM
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many of the subjects are controversial and won't get funding etc. Bull shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 01:57 PM
0

TRP is not "gender science". There is no science to be found in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 01:56 PM
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It has verisimilitude, and That's Why people are attracted to it. verisimilitude The property of seeming true, of resembling reality; resemblance to reality, realism. A statement which merely appears to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 01:54 PM
0

Pretty much everyone, even the mainstream agree bad boys get girls. You are confusing truisms with empiry. Cosmo What is it with Redpill guys and Cosmo? Seriously, this is a really weird fixation you guys have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:15 AM
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Anyone who knows a guy who's a dick who gets laid can verify it works. Does that mean anyone who knows a guy who's not a dick who gets laid can verify it doesn't work? That's TRP. Truisms based on fictional stories and confirmation bias? You are right, that does sum up TRP nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:22 AM
0

If feminists demanded all cars be replaced with unicycles because the internal combustion engine is an oppressive expression of patriarchal values, we'd all be riding unicycles next Tuesday. Cool story, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 08:21 PM
1

he got lambasted by Feminist organizations and expelled from various countries. This is bad for the PUA industry... Is it? Most PUA and RP gurus seem to be very keen to attract negative attention from feminists, it helps their publicity and gives them street cred in the manosphere...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 08:08 PM
0

TRP works. Just like PUAs, who all guarantee that their methods "work" and have "proof" of it (usually in the form of unproven, self-congratulatory stories full with confirmation bias)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 08:05 PM
1

PUA is basically neutered, watered down version of TRP, made to be more appealing sounding to women and the mainstream. Obviously. After all, "women and the mainstream" are the target demographic for PUA advice. It's also encouraging to men and feeds them unrealistic hopes, where TRP is very honest that if you don't X, or have B, you're fucked. "TRP is a toolbox of what works." No unrealistic hope there. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 03:44 PM
3

It's a metaphor. They do not mean that their brains have literally switched bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 11:40 PM
1

Could there be some social movement reinforcing their collective delusion? "Women don't go for looks in men."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 06:13 PM
2

When you pedestalize a man, he's on top of the world and will do anything for you ... but he won't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 06:05 PM
0

I don't understand why you consider PUA a "milder thing". They are pretty much the exact same thing, to the point where one could easily consider TRP a Reddit-specific branch of PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 12:03 PM
1

I don't think I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 11:52 AM
-1

So on a discussion of what sex-negative feminists believe I am forbidden to mention what sex-negative feminists have said they believe? When somebody disagrees with you, that doesn't mean that they "forbid" you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:04 AM
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You've just been trolled by /u/5th_Law_of_Robotics. He's a well known MRA troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:02 AM
3

As I get older, I have a lot on my plate to deal with, and I've never been liked, loved, found attractive or otherwise validated as a real human being. Have you ever considered talking to a therapist about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 04:10 AM
-1

Behind your moralistic appeals, I see no facts backing up your position. Maybe you really should take my advice and talk to your fellow Redpillers, they might explain a few things about their sub to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:28 AM
0

Plenty of MRAs are fathers and make the same points he's making. Also, plenty of MRAs are professional con artists and make the same points he's making..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:22 AM
1

What has feminism done to promote fatherhood? They've rallied to get big daddy government to take over the beta bucks role from fathers. You've completely neglected to show any examples which doesn't surprise me even slightly- because you're completely full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:21 AM
1

TIL "women's relationships" = cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:26 PM
4

Only if they are married, though. Manwhore Alpha penises stay thick and hard throughout adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:24 PM
-1

Talk to your fellow Redpillers about the Anger Phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:20 PM
2

What do you think of the EvoPsych argument that women have been selecting for aggressive, violent, masculine men for ages because, really, they had to. Most of these EvoPsych arguments boil down to just-so-stories, or a very peculiar reading of pre-existing data.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:55 AM
1

It was a reductio ad absurdum. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:47 AM
0

TIL Catholics really hate Mary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:39 AM
1

I'm a RP feminist So you believe that women should be equal to men, but also not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:38 AM
1

I've said it before but TRPers and SJWs are mirror images of each other. What an original and well thought out position. Bonus points for using the term "SJWs" to describe any and all people with feminist leanings. You don't happen to be a Tia regular do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:37 AM
-1

Rp has one redeeming quality. They will stand up and tell you you are a fat lazy fuck off and will remain so if you dont get off your ass and do something about it. Of course, they will then immediately turn around and tell him that it's all the fault of women and their deceptive, immature, hamstering ways - externalizing any feelings of self-doubt and guilt and completely erasing any effect such a speech might have had if it had been honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:32 AM
1

I Want To Believe Yea, you obviously do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 07:39 AM
-4

Do you endorse that comment and want to take part in this discussion? Or are you just here to troll, as usual?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 02:06 PM
1

Well we can say the same thing about men in family court. Who is "we"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:59 PM
3

Person says he wants so and so in a woman. You need to work on your reading comprehension. That's as as far as it goes for most men, regardless of how many men deny this to get a pat on the head from feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:34 AM
1

So you would say RP women are less feminine than BP women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:53 PM
3

Sorry, that still doesn't make any sense. What the hell do you mean by "emphasis is placed on a man's personality"? What concrete actions place an emphasis on a man's personality? Did you even try to get to know the person before starting the relationship? If the abusive personality trickles in, can't you see the slow build up? Not if they are good at it, no. Some types of abusers (e.g. the "Dark Triad" type that so many of you RP guys are idolizing) can be socially affable and cunning enough to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:50 PM
1

Please, go on and explain to us why it's all the abuse victim's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:45 PM
2

I'm a man. I recognize that I have many urges/instincts/qualities/thoughts/patterns of behavior/whatever that seem to just be there, regardless of my wishes. I constantly look to develop meaningful self-awareness and strategies that enable me to overcome the problems that these seemingly-innate behaviors might cause for me. Why? According to TRP, all of your innately male behaviors are good things that need to be supported.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:39 PM
2

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. Can you backtrack a bit and walk me through that train of thought so that statement makes sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:37 PM
2

Alright then. Let's assume I said "Redpill Women" instead. Would you consider a RP woman closer or further from her "female nature" than a 'regular' (for lack of a better term) woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:28 PM
1

Still needs work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:27 PM
3

/r/thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:27 PM
5

It's really telling of this sub's quality that the single most reasonable response gets massive downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:26 PM
5

If you marry an abuser, and someone says "you couldn't tell before you married him/got into a relationship with him?", the accusations of being a victim blamer start. Have you considered that maybe that's because you often can't tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:25 PM
3

TRP strives on paranoia. Any idea that ups that paranoia is golden for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:21 PM
2

So, would you say that you exemplify female nature, or do you consider yourself more of a masculine being?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:20 PM
0

You are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:17 PM
1

So, if you engage in faulty logic and do not realize that there is no empirical basis for AWALT, you are "special". I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:06 PM
2

But are they defective? What do you think is wrong with the wiring of these "special" girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:58 PM
0

Like I said, self-awareness. A good woman IS “like that.” She’s still a woman. But she recognizes that she falls under AWALT and keeps herself in check. Which you just told me is not "normal girl behavior": If you're one of those women who reads TRP and how much women suck, gets angry, and insists that neither you nor anyone you know is like that or has ever experienced that, that's pretty normal girl behavior. So, is it their "wiring" that's wrong, or are Redpill Girls just generally defective?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:55 PM
0

If you're one of those women who reads TRP and how much women suck, gets angry, and insists that neither you nor anyone you know is like that or has ever experienced that, that's pretty normal girl behavior. So, why aren't the Redpill Girls acting like you say they do? Are they defective, is their wiring wrong? Are they some kind of special breed that's different from normal women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:31 PM
0

7/10 troll rating, bonus for effort and plausible deniability, minus for not enough swearwords against feminazi conspiracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:29 PM
-1

Well, an unknown percentage. Which is really just as good as a very high percentage, for rhetorical purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:24 PM
2

Would say the girls at /r/redpillwomen are "defective" and abnormal?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:23 PM
2

Reddit logic. Don't question it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 12:33 PM
1

That's nice, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:18 PM
0

Unfortunately, that means the whole of RP, from unattractive to very attractive is aiming for the top 50% of more attractive women. Well, it's not like the majority of RP men is ever going to get laid in their life to begin with. Pareto principle, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:16 PM
2

Is Israel a common law country? I was under the impression that it uses its own legal system.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 04:50 PM
3

doesnt mean you have to open your legs But he will know you really wanted it once you stop struggling and let him go ahead despite telling him off previously!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 04:49 PM
2

So if you stop struggling, you secretly wanted it all along?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 03:11 PM
8

Ladies and gentlemen: This is a mod on TRP. These are beliefs that TRP endorses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 02:54 PM
1

So your argument is: Someone is using TRP terminology, therefore "no" doesn't mean "no" any more. Do you spot the flaw in that logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 02:46 PM
1

Which only works if we uncritically assume that the TRP narrative is always the correct one, and "no" doesn't really mean "no". Why are you assuming that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 02:00 AM
2

That's a lot of information that isn't being provided by the statement, nor the larger context. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:45 AM
-1

So for the Redpill Girls, "no" means "yes"? You're making out with a chick you've known for a bit and who's into you. She keeps throwing out LMR which you ignore whilst escalating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 11:27 PM
2

Yea, seriously. That's exactly the sort of drama that I wouldn't want to see happening in my relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 07:31 PM
3

I don't understand people who get back with their ex. People are bad at remembering the past the way it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 07:29 PM
1

What sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 10:28 AM
2

Define "alpha male".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 08:45 PM
1

I think the confusion between the genders on "nice guy" behavior is because those "nice guys" coopt the female seduction strategy. They act like women act when women try to "get men" - they are passive, do favors, give gifts, etc. Except of course we know that the real female seduction strategy is looking hot and spreading her legs when it's demanded of her. It's not like men are looking for anything but a wet hole to stick their dick in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 08:44 PM
2

If the Pareto principle holds true, then why are so many Redpillers convinced that they are ever going to get laid in the first place? Are they just bad at math?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 08:30 PM
1

Now you are honest in your view of her as nothing but a hole to put your dick in. I am glad you made this transition to become a better human being. The world needs more men like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 08:28 PM
1

Yea, eventually guys stop lying to girls like that. Eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 03:55 PM
1

I'm curious why RP men consider having sex a moral imperative to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 02:59 PM
2

Thanks. I think it's a distinction worth making.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:35 PM
1

Women are clearly more likely to initiate divorce file for divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:30 PM
3

I've read the article, and it is a majority, though nowhere near 90%. More like 60-70. And it was about filing for divorce i.e. doing the actual paperwork, not about being the divisive factor in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:17 PM
2

It's easy to infer from the data, though. Women are the ones who are willing to engage with the legal process and suffer the financial consequences. Men just have affairs and avoid investing in a failing marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:16 PM
2

If you're just trolling fine ...says the racist troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:10 PM
2

And every girl you dated was your soulmate and your only true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 12:50 AM
1

Yea, you sound exactly like a guy who got his idea on how a debate works from TV duels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:36 PM
5

It is a logical conclusion if you assume that sexual attraction depends entirely on a man's ability to follow the most basic rules of social etiquette, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:34 PM
1

I'm curious, why do you believe my post was not sincere? Because I use words you do not like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:32 PM
1

Gay men are a whole other game... they get away with a lot. /r/asspussypass
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:31 PM
0

That's why in the case of a nice guy friend who is oblivious to any notion of how REAL attraction work The RedPill Primer for boys would be a true revelation. It will also likely result in their expulsion from college, if not a jail sentence, since the TRP definition of "rape" advocated in that primer is considerably more narrow than the legal one in most Western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:29 PM
1

Whereas a "nice guy" will still be nice even when someone is likely being a dick to them. As can be seen demonstrated by all the nice guys in the TRP sub, who never have any unkind words for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:26 PM
5

They spent their whole lives thinking that there's someone out there who'll love them just the way they are. So... RP guys were exclusively raised on Disney movies and 1990s Hollywood RomComs?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:23 PM
4

This, really. Trying to become an athletic, well groomed person is kind of like trying to quit smoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:21 PM
2

"I keep being nice to them but no woman has spread her legs for me for being nice to her. Therefore, women do not value being nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:16 PM
2

Guys all over the world would kill themselves if the only requirement to being attractive was their appearance. FTFY. Guys have no idea how much effort a women has to put in to be seen as even moderately attractive by men and her peers, and "nice guys" i.e. entitled hateful nerds are even more clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:14 PM
-1

Or maybe I just disagree with you. Then again, you seem to believe that everybody who disagrees with you is either an idiot, or an uninformed idiot, so it's not like that makes any difference to you either. That said, you seem more interested in being sarcastic than participating in an actual discussion ... says the mod of a sub called "fuck feminists". Lollercoaster!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:03 PM
2

Whatever you say, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:57 PM
1

Last time I checked, the OP has nothing to do with "Title IX"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 03:00 PM
2

And as for the other woman whose remarks are being used for those headlines, wouldn't be the first time someone would rather not popularise it the way it's meant to be enforced. I assume that by "someone" you mean "Breitbart's team of right-wing pundits".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:50 PM
1

Please do not conflate your own views with that of an entire gender, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:20 PM
1

That's just the thing. Most low SMV men would rather be worth something in a relationship than viewed for their utility. It's called friendship. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:18 PM
1

Assuming that SMV has anything to do with a person's worth inside a relationship to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:16 PM
3

I generally try to avoid bitter, hateful jerks, so I rarely get to hear RP ideas being talked about "in the wild".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:12 PM
2

Gotta love how the usual TRP brigade resorts to reflexive circlejerking without so much as checking the source of that "news" article.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:11 PM
4

Well, not everyone. Just those who can't be arsed to do their own research.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:09 PM
-1

Which is why I think Red Pill is, technically, about self-improvement, but it focuses on improving the self in very different ways than is commonly advocated. Embracing the attitudes of a bitter hateful jerk is not "self improvement", rather the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:04 PM
2

It's interesting how your post adresses not a single one of the points you're responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 05:57 PM
-1

What kind of slut wouldn't even be sore after that? Discuss!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 02:58 PM
-2

Of course it's inaccurate. A proper lady doesn't drink, and there is no lash because she always does what her hubby says anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 01:07 PM
-1

Whenever I hear about Captains and First Mates, I always think about "Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash". ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:52 PM
1

Yea, it's kind of like Goreanism in that respect: There's quite a few who are willing to go along with the ideology because it offers a relationship style that tickles their kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:49 PM
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Short version: They don't believe that the RP stereotypes about women apply to them, because they are special. (And the mods of TRP are quick to agree with them, because of course they do.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 06:13 PM
1

That's nice, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 06:12 PM
1

/r/RedPillWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 05:04 PM
1

Polarizing material such as "Women: the most responsible teenager in the house" is often posted for the express purpose to compel BPers to out themselves for easy banning. And lurkers to self-filter and leave. TRP doesn't really advocate that women are teenagers, they are just using controversial statements to flush out Bluepill sleeper agents in their sub. You shouldn't believe what's written on TRP's sidebar, it's all designed to shock people, there is no real information there about RP philos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 02:41 PM
-1

She needs to have girl game (RPW). RPW is not about "girl game", it's about being a good submissive for your beta husand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 02:38 PM
1

You clearly disagreed with the established goals of the sub. They are not there to help people with their relationships, they are there to peddle their TRP agenda to married men. You were breaking their circlejerk and crimping their style. Which is "trolling" in RedditSpeak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 02:36 PM
0

Maybe you should talk to your wife about this, instead of posting rants she's not going to read anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 02:31 PM
0

Why not? It's the same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:53 PM
1

You are right, those are self-evident facts and thus not subject to discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:49 PM
3

Let's not forget the cooties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:16 PM
3

So you don't actually know about that portion of TRP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:08 PM
5

So you are among the 20% of successful alpha males who get to have sex with all the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:05 PM
4

Sure, we know that all men just want to fuck women no strings attached, with no feelings or responsibility involved. I can see that. But why would you trust another man to help you, when there are only 20% of all men in the world who get to have sex with all women? It's just as likely that he'd give deliberately bad advice so that he could one-up you in his quest to be one of the 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:00 PM
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Men evolved the capacity to work better in teams (because they hunt and fight together) So that's why men are constantly competing and trying to one-up each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:50 PM
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Because you can't rely on a woman to tell you what's in your best interest, she will just tell you to act in a way that's in her best interests. Why would you rely on another man to tell you what's in your best interest, though? He will just tell you to act in a way that's in his best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:48 PM
5

Is that why the RP girls were given their own sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:47 PM
1

Obviously not. Ask Legion, he will explain it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:26 PM
1

Why? It sounds like a legit argument, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:23 PM
2

Excellent display of arrogance, egotism, and narcissism. However, I think you were supposed to disagree with OP's post, since this is a CMV thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:20 PM
-1

I will take this post as an admission that you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:19 PM
2

"Polarizing material is often posted for the express purpose to compel BPers to out themselves for easy banning. And lurkers to self-filter and leave." Put simply, the sidebar isn't supposed to be taken seriously. Nor is anything else posted by Redpillers, unless Legion tells you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:18 PM
1

And yet civilization runs on patriarchy magic. You mean in the sense that it doesn't exist except in the minds of a few people who believe in its positive effects?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:11 PM
5

Obviously when they say "all men", they are not meaning literally every single male creature on the planet, just an unspecified large portion of men that might as well be all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:10 PM
4

Where I live on public transport men will offer their seats to women. Where I live on public transport young people are expected to offer their seats to old people. Old people don't do the same for young people. Young people are expected to do certain things old people don't have to reciprocate (such as paying into a retirement fund that they are unlikely to benefit from). Clearly, we are being oppressed by seniority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:09 PM
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Egotism, narcisissm, and arrogance. See OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:08 PM
1

ad hominem For my post to be an argumentum ad hominem, it would have to be directed at the person making the argument I responded to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 10:34 PM
5

Is that like a honorary Aryan?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 10:40 AM
1

I keep saying that I agree with the critisism that TRP is basically the male version of feminism. And why wouldn't you? It elevates TRP and advances the claim that it has anything useful to say about society at large, rather than just being a cesspool of whiny bitter men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 10:38 AM
4

I have never felt unwelcome on TRP because I've never whined. Cleverly avoiding the question whether you think any of their allegiations are genuine...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 10:34 AM
7

race "realist"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 10:31 AM
1

Go on...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 04:04 AM
1

What's at "risk" in that setup?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 11:32 PM
4

Red pillers would say that they are not "settling" if they marry a docile virgin girl 10 years younger than them, unlike a woman who eventually marries a BB, they are getting hitched to someone they still find very attractive. How many middle aged Redpillers are there who have married "docile virgin girls 10 years younger than them"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 11:25 PM
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Even though they produce the exact same behavior. Hm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 11:23 PM
4

Okay, I am curious: Why do you think any of that qualifies as "Red Pill"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 11:21 PM
3

It works for all the other controversial statements made by RPS and Legion, why not this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:08 PM
1

The only reason to have anger is to achieve catharsis of the spirit necessary for shifting your paradigm. I would really like to know where people get the idea from that you need some sort of "catharsis of the spirit" to move on with your life after a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:07 PM
3

"Hate is as good as any to keep a man going. Better than most." - Sandor Clegane "Hate leads to suffering" - Master Yoda of the Jedi Order
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:03 PM
5

What you need to know is that "love" for a Redpill means "like to fuck". So when a Redpill man tells you he is capable of unconditionally loving someone, what he is really telling you is that he has no problem having sex with someone unconditionally. tl;dr: When they say that "men love unconditionally", that means that men can enjoy having sex with ugly women in addition to visually attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 02:00 PM
4

I was joking, it was just to get a rise out of the blue pillers. Yea, folks, when Reginleifer posts something really stupid and offensive, it is always meant to be just a joke to get a rise out of the Bluepillers!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 01:56 PM
2

Don't forget her youthful fertility!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 12:05 PM
3

Obviously, lines like "men love unconditionally" is often posted by true Redpillers for the express purpose to compel BPers to out themselves for easy banning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 12:04 PM
0

Yeah, my husband does not agree that all women are just waiting to become lesbians as soon as men start acting up or that all women could "become" lesbians even if they tried, because he is not a fucking idiot. Did he really say that, or are you just assuming that he would say that because you are hamstering your bluepill opinions about how all women are special and different? You don't need to reply, I know the answer to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:42 PM
1

Does "ask your husband" not imply that you've already assumed his answer? No, it implies that men know more about how women think than we do, which would be self-evident if you were truly Red.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:56 AM
3

That's why you have to be a virgin to ride it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:45 AM
0

Disappointed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:41 AM
1

I am still wondering why people think Kayley Cuoco is an authority on feminist thought, or why I should care what this woman thinks to begin with. And really, there's nothing wrong with a Dom/Sub relationship if that's the kind of thing she enjoys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:35 AM
0

Because it's stupid to try to force everything into categories. And yet, here we are, debating the way TRP forces everything into categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:30 AM
1

"Classic Dom/Sub relationship" conjures up an image of the structured bedroom role-playing "master/servant" sexual dynamic writ large in a 24/7 relationship dynamic. And that is what TRP, and specifically RPW, strives for in a LTR relationship. That's one reason why RP men are so pathologically obsessed with being seen as dominant 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:35 PM
2

I'm not a participant, but I've studied BDSM academically and have enough friends that are heavily involved in the scene to know that "Bondage/Discipline/Sadism/Masochism" does not go hand-in-hand with being sexually dominant or sexually submissive. That's why I called them Dom/Sub relationships, not BDSM. My wife, for example, is very much a sub, but isn't turned on by hair pulling, and is vehemently turned off by things like choking. For her, "being dominated" in the bedroom is very distinct f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:21 PM
1

Interesting that you would purport to know my husband's opinion. Where have I claimed to know your husband's opinion? Can you point to a single post of mine where I said that? AWALT does not remotely mean all women are identical and you are being willfully dense to claim AWALT applies to anything any woman has ever done. Why are you telling me this? You are the one who believes that every woman is a special snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:22 PM
2

Ask your husband, dear. He will explain everything to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:53 PM
2

He called me a "kingmaker". It was clearly his way of calling me a beta. And this is clearly the male method of fishing for compliments. No dear, don't worry, you're a super strong dominant alpha! No, really, your cock is huge, and when I roll my eyes, it's a sign of approaching orgasm!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:48 PM
1

This is what I meant when I said that RPers feel scared and alone outside their familiar RP circlejerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:44 PM
0

"All Women Are Like That." The core of TRP philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:33 PM
1

Well, TRP is a circlejerk, and RPers need their circlejerks or they feel scared and alone. That's why most BPers are banned after a while, whereas most RPers can get a rap sheet a mile long bullying/harassing other people and never face significant moderation in this sub. RPers need these familiar "faces" so they don't feel scared, and don't leave the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:24 PM
2

Of course, all women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:22 PM
1

And of course, she's got to be a virgin, and no older than 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:21 PM
2

Feminists, or ridiculously distorted image of "feminazis" that are peddled on Reddit and the manosphere as how "feminism is really like"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:20 PM
1

A significant portion of the female (and male) population is into (a level of) degradation/humiliation either receiving it or giving it. [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:19 PM
2

Wat? Dominance isn't the same as BDSM. Red Pill Relationship/Marriage is a classic Dom/Sub relationship, just dressed up with pretentious Redpill rhetoric to feel more authentic. But the principles are the same. Except that RP guys usually make for terrible doms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:17 PM
2

Which is at it should be. If the representation were equivalent, then that would scare away the Redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:15 PM
4

Is that the reason you preemptively ban all members of TBP from your sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:11 PM
1

Because PPD strives to be extra welcoming to Red Pill users, and for that reason tries to keep as much distance to TBP as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:10 PM
1

Why do you think I am not allowed to criticise TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:08 PM
0

There are three types of classifications that women Redpill men subconsciously assign to males: Alpha, Beta, and Omega.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:28 PM
0

Those women get what they deserve for not living up to the RP ideal of the perfect nubile submissive 50s housewive! Preach it, sister!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:27 PM
-2

"I wouldn't hate on old unmarried women if they shut up and didn't talk to anyone. And I wouldn't hate fat chicks if they acknowledged how awful and disgusting they were."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:25 PM
0

TRP is on it's own sub talking to itself and it's members I thought we were in /r/PurplePillDebate? Did anyone mess with my subscriptions when I wasn't looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:03 PM
2

Not only are you an exception but you are a very extreme exception. All Women Are Like That.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:00 PM
0

Redpill men already believe that only 20% of all men ever get to have sex in their lives. In other words, their own belief system already tells them they will never have sex. So really, the whole slut shaming attitude is just sour grapes by men who will never have sex with these women to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:00 PM
2

So, when did you realize that you were beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 05:58 PM
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No different from athletes high-fiving over 3 pointers or math nerds having camaraderie over acing a regional math competition. Exactly. Only men think of sex as a competition between men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:44 PM
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That is actually alarming, because there are a LOT of people posting there that are just sexually frustrated teenagers or people suffering from Tiny Weiner Syndrome. Hey, its entirely possible that our dear Aerobus falls into either group, or both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:40 PM
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This is actually a really good example for the kind of credulous circlejerks TRP engages in most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:38 PM
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Ya, cause why should academics involve themselves in the unfortunate business of actually engaging the public. Ew. There's a difference between engaging the public, and argueing about a subject you've specialized knowledge in with some random clueless idiot. Most internet debates would constitute the latter, rather than the former, particularly on reddit where there are exactly zero negative repercussions for posting falsehoods or outright lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:31 PM
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Take a look at PUA or TRP. Tons of guys high-fiving each other over how many tricks they turned, and complimenting each other on a successful one night stand, and ranking each other based on how much pussy they get; the ones with the most are the "masters" who are qualified to "teach", while those who haven't pulled any yet are there to sit at the masters' feet and listen in awe. There's plenty of social jockeying in women-only communities, but never based on sex IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:20 PM
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You've set up a possible situation like it happens regularly. No. Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:19 PM
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Meanwhile RP men are afraid to get "divorce raped" by women they got pregnant through unprotected sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:13 PM
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Because they really, really, really enjoy complaining about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:12 PM
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It is true, however, that causal sex, hook-ups, that sort of thing - in that situation, it's the men that want it more than the women. In my experience it's the other way round. Men get wayyy too attached to the women they have casual sex with, and are usually a pain to get rid of even if you make it clear you want no strings attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:11 PM
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I like how RPWs try to meet their partners' sexual needs and don't think it's necessarily a transaction in order to get commitment. Which is funny if you think about it in RP terms, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:10 PM
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Men do not make the first move? Not always. Act as the candidate while you act as the chooser? Not always. Pay for dates? Just the ones who want to buy a girlfriend. Peacock to qualify to you? Just the ones with a huge ego. When you choose him, out of all the other men you could have chosen, is he not getting something he was seeking? When you fuck your girlfriend, is she not getting something she was seeking?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:04 PM
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Depends what you mean by "value". Women tend to seek sex for pleasure, not to establish a pecking order or play social games in the way men do, so yea in that sense you could say that they "value" it less than men. For men, sex is an issue of masculine identity, proof of wealth and status, and a means to establish themselves as dominant and powerful. For women, sex is just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:00 PM
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Once you start from the assumption that women are human beings with emotions, dreams, wants and needs just as you are, rather than objects to be won, displayed, or disposed of, you will find it much easier to accept the basic fact that women have a sex drive. From there on, the transactional model of relationships really starts to lose its appeal as a sensible description of what actually happens in human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 10:55 PM
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According to Redpill theory, women already share only 20% of all men between them. So no change there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 10:43 PM
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That seems to be the case, yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 04:27 PM
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I disagree with the bolded section. Rape is a crime, and if a girl is too emotionally distraught after rape, it's not my fault that she doesn't go off and report it. It's her fault, and she deserves to pay the price of not having her rapist stand trial. Which is just another form of victim blaming. "Didn't feel like explaining to the police how you got raped in excruciating detail? Fuck you, bitch!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 04:57 PM
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And now you're shifting goalposts from "rape" to "stranger rape in alleys".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 04:53 PM
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When was it REMOTELY indicated that a crime didnt happen? I am just asking a question. The facts are ambigious. Can we really call it a mugging if the guy was a drunk cokehead? Maybe this is what he's up to every weekend! Do you think pointing out th contributory negligence of the victim means the crime didnt happen? Do you think that? If I walked down the street with 100$ bills taped to me and people ran past me stealing them, it would still be larceny no matter how stupid i was for doing that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:26 PM
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Have you asked them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:23 PM
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I don't understand why people are downvoting this post. This is literally how it works in the fields you've just mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:19 PM
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Most women don't necessarily want to be the most attractive, they just don't want to look unattractive. In other words, most women just want to fit in. Most women who wear make up do it because that's what you've learned and that's the way it's done. Usually there's really nothing more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:14 PM
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Yes. And this improves your overall confidence. Regardless of whether you want to fuck somebody or not. Is this really so difficult to understand, or are you simply desperate to make this into some "gotcha!" argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:11 PM
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Now now now we have to first ascertain this: Was it really mugging if he went out into the alley with them? clearly he wanted to go with them. he might well have been into getting hit on the head, sexually he was obviously a drunk idiot and a cokehead and should have been at home, studying, like a decent and responsible young man his age. So, can we really say that a crime has happened there?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:58 PM
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Sure, I mean we have to find a way to blame women for your faults somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 10:57 PM
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It's not about banning competition, it's about not making literally every single sports activity into a competition for the sake of making it into a competition. But, really, I don't care either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 04:32 PM
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That's always been my prime motivator, but I am capable of brutal honesty about my own nature. Or, alternatively, you're scared of real emotional connections with people and don't like to admit it to dudes (or yourself). Not that I believe that, but it's just about equally likely in cases like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 03:46 PM
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It is weird that we here in Europe are supposed to be, how to put it, more left wing than America but we don't even think about stuff like this. I That's not true at all. It's just that in Europe, progressive pedagogic theories are usually the very last thing given credence to when it comes to organizing secondary education.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 03:43 PM
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No wonder the STEM fields are full of rightwingers and lolbertarians.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 03:39 PM
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Whatever you say, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:15 PM
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I meant in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:14 PM
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Of course you do. I'm sure makes you feel better about yourself if all feminists are ugly harpies who cannot get any cock positive male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:35 AM
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You get sex. Isn't that the single biggest priority for a RP man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:32 AM
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Plus, I really don't care what other people do That's a rather surprising coming from one of the most prolific contributors to /r/fuckfeminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:07 AM
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Ah, and here I thought I'd have a meaningful conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:03 AM
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The red pill is a reality based sexual strategy. Then why do most RP men constantly complain about said reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 12:52 AM
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Why would you care, as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 12:47 AM
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I think this is mainly an extension of the argument that men show no preference or self-interest when it comes to women. Isn't this basically the RP opinion as well? Men having no standards as long as they get sex out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 12:45 AM
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Personally I would consider both pretty daft topics, and wouldn't take them seriously to begin with. In all likelihood we are talking about meaningless fluff texts that are typed out to fill pages, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 12:43 AM
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How else do you ascertain consent on both parts, then, if not through enthusiastic agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 12:38 AM
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So that's a yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 11:12 AM
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So you support "yes means yes" in principle?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 07:38 PM
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Which it might be, but the obvious answer is that more facts are needed to determine whether drunk sex is rape. Let me guess, your conclusion depends heavily on whether the woman in question has had frequently sex with other men before, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:29 PM
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Also, regular poster at /r/MensRights, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:26 PM
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Frankly, I think such a situation should be handled by the justice system in the first place, not a college. I shudder at the thought of my local university having that kind of power over me...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:23 PM
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The person needs to be so drunk that they are "unable to understand even the nature and consequences of the agreement" So, drunk Americans at your average college party.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:22 PM
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In my opinion drunken sex can be classed as rape if there was no consent or interest from both parties when they are sober. Whether right or wrong it's certainly a safe and sensible assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:21 PM
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discrimination re:fitness to care for children ... which is a direct consequences of the stereotype of Men as Providers vs. Women as Nurturers. Which is exactly the kind of stereotype that traditionalist RP men & women are so fond of. It follows from the traditionalist POV that there's something wrong with men who actually want to take care of other people's children; therefore they must be weirdos, therefore they must be kept away from children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:18 PM
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A close family friend for example, went through a divorce recently. His wife left him to "find her prince charming." I wish I was making this up, but that is verbatim what she said. You mean, that's how her words sounded to you, a close friend of her husband. Obviously, none of us can ascertain how accurate your portrayal of her actions is, and how much of it is informed by vicarious bitterness (something that's a very common feeling towards a friend's ex IME).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 03:53 PM
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Is there any point to this or are you just here to snark at other people? Despite his obvious disgust for my positions, /u/Reginleifer actually managed to engage with me in a proper debate. Why can't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 07:00 AM
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Especially when you consider that the benchmark here isn't exactly something that's universally good or a universally followed, I don't see a problem. You don't consider gender equality a universal good? Why not? Not everyone's going to be the best at everything, one of the signs of a good leader is knowing how to prioritize your resources to get the best possible outcome for all and their competing interests. Is that why you would outlaw abortion and put women back in the kitchen? Or is there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 06:28 AM
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I'd prefer it if men would finally start going gold instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 05:48 AM
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How did you derive that logically from what I typed? You just equated not having a job with not having sex with your partner. Therefore, you must think that having sex with your partner is equivalent to having a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 05:40 AM
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No harm done, I'm just getting tired of these constant accusations just because I make my opinions known to everyone, as opposed to certain other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:56 PM
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Why do you believe it was intended as a gotcha post? Because I don't enjoy watching RP guys circlejerking among themselves? Have you ever considered that I actually wanted an answer to a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:27 PM
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So having sex with her partner is a job for a RP woman? Does she get paid for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:26 PM
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look, we are actively trying to inform ourselves about women!" Isn't that what TRP theory is for? Explaining to clueless men how women really think and feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:23 PM
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Read, these are nerdy guys in male centric, low status fields like programming, IT, engineering, etc., and blame thier problems on that. Isn't that the case for a lot of RP guys as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 09:22 PM
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So you're argueing they were not following RP philosophy because they were incompetent at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 02:20 PM
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Also "better employment for same experience", where does this happen? Women can potentially earn more money as strippers and porn stars, therefore they are "priviledged" in the job market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:02 PM
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What is that supposed to even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 02:23 PM
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Yes, that is exactly what I assume when I see a tall guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:26 AM
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You will never be able to show me how I attack people FIRST, always in RESPONSE to their attacks. You mean, because the mods delete these attacks, and I do not care nearly enough about you to make screencaps in time? I gotta admit, it's fairly unlikely. Besides, I'll be banned in a couple of days anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:48 PM
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I'm not going to go into details about our actions with/against specific individuals. Why not? perhaps you should wonder why you've gotten more attention and reports than others. Yes, because I've made my opinions regarding the moderation of this sub obvious for everyone to see. Meanwhile, the Redpillers who hold you in contempt get off scot free because they don't call you out in public. Also, unlike the worst offenders in this sub, I'm not a TRP regular, TRP endorsed contributor, or a moderato…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 10:24 AM
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By the way, I noticed how you immediately tried to shift the debate away from my original point and went straight to attacking my personal credibility instead. Is there a reason why you don't want to adress this: You've just PMed me with a "final warning", after less than two months in this sub. /u/We_Are_Legion, /u/homo_homini_lupus and /u/RedPill4LYF have been at this for half a year or longer. You've been giving these people slack for half a year for, by your own words, being "as bad as" myse…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 10:11 AM
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You were temp banned for engaging in an insult war with another user in a convoluted mess of a thread. That's not what the message said: you have been banned from posting to /r/PurplePillDebate: Question what you believe. note from the moderators: "You and /u/homo_homini_lupus are temp banned for 3 days for complaining (yes, seriously, I'm sick of it). You both need to internalize the phrase, "two wrongs don't make a right." After I asked for clarification, /u/hyperrreal replied with this: Clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 10:01 AM
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Let us know your thoughts instead of giving abstract complaints about how mods aren't doing exactly what you expect them to. "Let us know your thoughts so we can publicly call you out as a frequent complainer."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:38 AM
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complaints, including yours, which were plentiful I've tried the report buttons at first, and you simply do not respond to those. So literally the only way to make sure I get any response at all, no matter how dismissive, is to send a PM. And the only way to not make you guys dismiss my report is to make a strongly worded argument with plenty of sources. EDIT: Note that this still didn't stop you from responding with snarky replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:30 AM
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We've fairly listened to and addressed complaints, including yours, which were plentiful. You've banned me for three days for "complaining", and consistently dismissed my pointing out blatant RP circlejerks, because god forbid Redpillers stop circlejerking in a sub that's supposed to be about open debate. Know that you are one of the prime beneficiaries of the mods' lenience. Is that why you banned me only for three days? Would I have gotten a permaban otherwise? What about /u/homo_homini_lupus?…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:24 AM
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Of course, there's no guarantee that said behavior will actually be modded, and it is extremely unlikely that an offender will be reprimanded if he is a RP moderator or endorsed contributor. (See e.g. /u/We_Are_Legion and /u/homo_homini_lupus and their long history of trolling directly under the watch of the PPD moderation staff)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 07:30 AM
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It's convenient for you that the moderators delete offending posts. Otherwise I could now show you how you quite blatantly attacked other people several times in this sub. But hey, you're a RPW mod, it's not like they are ever going to permaban you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 07:23 AM
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As opposed to TBP, proponents of feminism. Also, as opposed to the law in a whole lot of Western countries, including most of the US and Canada IIRC.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 11:03 AM
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Prostitutes. Single mothers. Other men's wives. Men getting tail has never been a problem in "traditional" society. There were always plenty of "dishonored" women to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 09:29 AM
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So, first question: What does a geneticist know about IQ tests, and why does he believe that these tests or their results are comparable across ethnicities or countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 04:32 AM
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How can one gender be waiting and not the other? Adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 04:27 AM
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So it's "news" to you that TRP focuses on "sexual strategy" and how to get women to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 04:23 AM
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Tall people dont need a ton more food in comparison to someone several inches shorter. No, they consume more food proportionally to their increased height and body mass. Which is important in an environment where you need to hunt and gather your food for yourself and your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 04:15 AM
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Why is it that TheRedPill thinks losing your virginity to your wife is so terrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 03:00 AM
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Being bigger also means you have to eat more to maintain your health. So survival wise it's really a wash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 02:56 AM
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Why would you want bigger kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 01:18 AM
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You're welcome, hon. It's a woman's job to please, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:47 PM
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You know not everyone believes in feminism, right? That's what she said, dear: seeing the world as though women have a place below men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:42 PM
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I agree. If you don't get sex from a man, just get a vibe. And divorce him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:40 PM
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So you got into D/s. Big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:38 PM
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This isn't RPW, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:36 PM
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I agree. I've stated numerous times, on ppd but not just here, that true, honest debate is limited in effectiveness. So what is the reason you keep coming here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:32 PM
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TRP does not condone rape in any form. TRP also believes that rape is only rape when it involves physical violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:31 PM
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society is willing to comfort women LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:25 PM
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So what tells you that these women were unattractive? If they got men to have sex with them then they evidently weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:16 PM
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There are many stories of unattractive women being promiscuous because they have low self-esteem. And there are many stories of dragons, but I've yet to see either of these in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:27 PM
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No, it's not like that at all. Males are disposable sperm dispensers according to evolution, therefore they never develop the ability to have real emotions or social relationships. Women are different from men, so different standards apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:07 PM
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So, you didn't stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:03 PM
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Thats not my primary source. My primary source is real life. Same as mine. And my primary source tells me that low SMV means you won't get sex as a woman, because men all flock to the high SMV women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:02 PM
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Why do you say I'm avoiding the point? I thought we were talking about feminism? Aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:00 PM
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So... you are blaming feminists for focusing on problems of gender equality because you don't like hearing feminists talk about gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:34 PM
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So your primary source for the claim that any woman, no matter how fat/ugly/disgusting she looks can have sex with any number of guys is... Chris Rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:30 PM
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Pretty sure everyone has been virgin shamed at some point in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 12:10 PM
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Yea, this is a RP circlejerk here! No Bluepill allowed!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 12:08 PM
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My whole model of human social interaction is based on whole (and functional (but that also includes functional alcoholic parents)) families, and thus fairly well-adjusted children. Eh, there's plenty of two-parents families who fail to raise well-adjusted children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 12:05 PM
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A lot of these stories even involve convoluted shit like the guy jumping out of bushes or running off and then circling back to attack. They put that to get a self-defense ruling. Nothing convoluted about it, just a way to game the justice system.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:32 AM
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But that's not the MRM's standard, not focusing on specific problems, does not mean hate for your average person. Then why are you attacking feminism for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:26 AM
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It's interesting how the first reaction of RP men is not to adress the point, but to make insinuations about the evil intent of straw feminists and trying to look clever instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:24 AM
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Gotta love how your first response to an alleged BP circlejerk is to immediately try to turn it into a RP circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:23 AM
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So I take it [Discussion] threads are still free game for snark, contentless humor, insults, and off topic stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:18 AM
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Not saying all men are like this No it's okay to say that. All men are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:14 AM
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Eh, it's pretty obvious that men don't know what they want, either. Ask any random RP guy what he wants and he will give an answer that's obviously contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:11 AM
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The "becoming a man that easily has sex with a woman" is the work. How is that any different for women? Most guys won't look at a woman who isn't fit, good looking, without make-up or sexy clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:08 AM
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His argument is that saying "men and women are different" is a non-statement if you aren't able to explain how that influences their supposed status as studs and sluts (and it's obvious that you can't explain it).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:06 AM
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It's really easy. Men who have lots of sex are called studs because they're men, women who have lots of sex are called sluts because they're women. There really isn't anything more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:00 AM
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So, did you stop beating your wife or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:56 AM
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No no, husband goggles are a wonderful thing, and I mean this in all seriousness!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:50 AM
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So, when did you stop beating your wife? EDIT: In case of mod squad - this is an example of a loaded question. Yes, it's a loaded question if you don't agree with the premise - duh. The premise is intended to lead the opponent into a rhetorical trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 04:07 AM
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Dang, how old is that? My hubby is in his early 50s and is still super hot Oh, I'm convinced that you think he is hot. He is your husband, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:54 PM
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Yes, obviously not all women agree, especially those who have older husbands who are way past their prime already. The thought of having had to settle for second choice is not a pleasant one after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:25 PM
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I would remove all negative comments, and ban people who only want to complain about women. Any particular reason why you aren't doing that here, in your own sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:18 PM
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As someone famous once said, what a joy it is to defeat your enemies, to drive them before you, and to grasp their warm gingerbread latte in your hands. I believe that is a quote from Gingers Khan.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 04:57 PM
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Most of the decent gyms have a trainer who actually knows his stuff and should be able to put together a workout plan with you. Similarly, a good fashion sales(wo)man should be able to tell you what kinds of clothes look good on you. How to Make Friends and Influence People should be available at any reasonably well stocked bookshop, or Amazon if you prefer online shopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 04:54 PM
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Also, fat people aged 18-30 are forced into training camps and put under mandatory dieting plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 04:50 PM
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Why does TBP want me to remain weak and confused when TRP shows young men like me the way? Why do you ask these loaded questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 04:30 PM
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Well, it's an article from the Daily Mail, so if any of this turned out to be true, it would be sheer coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 10:05 AM
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I... don't really care?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:16 AM
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People with face tattoos? You expect them in prison and that is what law enforcement expect. Do you have something against Maori?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:15 AM
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Is this supposed to be some kind of joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 11:10 AM
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Not sure where you get this objective standard for "respecting" your opponents. It's easy. I assume mutual respect until proven otherwise. Mocking or insulting proves otherwise. Multiple times you brought this up. Funny how people can accuse people of doing what they themselves are doing. I'm not accusing you of anything. There is no way for me to genuinely know whether you are doing this deliberately or because you're incapable of not doing it. Nobody else seems to be lodging any complaints App…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 11:04 AM
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I'm asking specifically because your post history seems to indicate that you really cannot talk with people who disagree with you without mocking or insulting them in some way. Just because you think it's particularly funny or witty doesn't make it less of an indicator for your disrespect towards your opponents in debate. (Again, assuming that you are doing this deliberately, and not out of some mental health issue).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 10:06 AM
2

I mock a small minority of very toxic people to this debate. Which, I assume, includes every single person you talk to, including all BP people in PPD? Because I've never seen a post of yours that didn't include an insult to either the person you're talking to, BPers, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 09:59 AM
0

Why would men marry a less hot woman? Because your SMV drops with age and you'll eventually have to settle for someone less-than-Playmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 09:45 AM
1

There are a lot more guys who think they are a nice guy, than there are guys who are actually nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 09:25 AM
5

My point was not so much "there are feminists who happen to be racist, just like in society at large" as much as it was "there is something specific and particular to feminism that is elitist and about preserving/enforcing social hierarchies". You do realize that this has been extensively discussed within feminism and wider socially progressive circles since the late 19th century, right? I mean, literally one of the first people to point out the racist elements within the Suffragette movement wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 06:34 AM
11

This has in fact been a fairly widespread critique among feminists of color and feminists from non-Western cultures. If you want to dig deeper, you should check out literature on Black feminism or Postcolonial Feminism. There are entire social theories such as Intersectionalism built around the interactions of oppression based on race, class and gender, some of which have been developed as far back as the 1960s and 1970s. The reason why this is not well known is the same reason why experiences o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 06:28 AM
0

Case in point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 09:10 PM
2

But TRP is just a toolbox of methods that work, is it not? If it doesn't work, then it's useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 07:26 PM
2

You realize that most of my reports get dismissed and I get reprimanded for "complaining" on top of it. We can't have Redpill guys stop circlejerking, after all. It would scare off the Redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:51 PM
3

If you don't find success with TRP, then what are you doing there to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:15 PM
1

No circlejerking. This isn't /r/TheRedPill. Could've fooled me there for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:10 PM
2

But TRP has been stressing again and again that it is not an advocacy group. TRP doesn't give two shits whether the world is unfair or not, only what a guy can do to get laid in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 05:44 PM
3

So... TRP is a pair of platform shoes for guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:53 AM
19

But if women are going to date tall guys anyway, what do short guys gain from joining TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 08:16 AM
2

Just to make sure I understand your argument here: You're going to teach your boys that "no" doesn't always mean "no". You're going to teach them that, when women resist their advances, they gotta press on because women are flaky and change their mind all the time. And you claim that this will decrease the chance of them being accused of rape. Am I missing something here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 08:14 AM
1

Being a skilled laborer often means seriously working with STEM principles as well. Being a skilled laborer means just that, it means that you are skilled at your trade. STEM is just a group of academic fields, a STEM education doesn't focus any more on labor skills than liberal arts does (labor skills here defined as actual trade skills, rather than general purpose white collar stuff like how to operate AutoCAD).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 12:12 AM
5

If you want to teach your boys not to be a rapist, then maybe you shouldn't teach them that a woman saying "no" to sex is just "flakiness" and that they are losers if they do not ignore these "meaningless objections". Link Also, if you want to actually teach 10 year old boys about feminism, then maybe you should first get your facts straight, or at least take a look at Wikipedia. Dworkin is usually associated with 2nd Wave Feminism, not 3rd Wave, for example. Also, personally, I don't think it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 10:14 PM
6

First of all, being a housemaid is not a "career", so that's a "no". Second of all, what does that have to do with your contempt for people in low paying service jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 10:45 PM
5

What does "being feminine" mean? Acting submissive towards men? Or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 08:01 PM
-1

So you believe that TRP is for men who are "uninteresting, inadequate, and unable to please their women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 08:01 PM
4

I solicit the use of housemaids, but I look down on them for that particular profession. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:51 PM
2

A person, usually a women, considered sexually promiscuous. I note that you did not say "a person that is sexually promiscuous".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:50 PM
-1

So women are just more likely to leave in general (even if things are good), or only when problems come up? Women actually go out and file for a divorce. Men just have affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:46 PM
0

By being classified in this category implies as a man that you're uninteresting, inadequate, and unable to please your woman. Which is true for 80% of all guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:40 PM
2

Men behaving like redpill for LTRs suggests retains the spark, as does women keeping fit and feminine So long as the women are way past their wall and want to settle anyway. Or are into D/s lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:39 PM
1

It's ironic how many RP guys seem to aspire to be like Hugh Hefner, when that guy is pretty much the textbook example of a Beta Bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:38 PM
1

... aaand the RPers are on a downvote binge again. No homo, bois!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 01:00 AM
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All of them cheated, all of them were excused because it's wrong to slut shame and I got my as chewed pretty hard for apparently trying to control a woman's sexuality. They "were excused"? By whom? You? Your friends? Their friends? I've been told how great of a guy I am, just not for her, and then I stop Existing until a need of hers arises. This has happened more times than I care to count. Maybe you should have taken the hint and dropped her then and there? I'm serious, why would you hang on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 11:55 PM
2

... or STEM education.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 07:41 PM
0

So favorable treatment is not enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 04:47 PM
-1

You've got your own redpill men on the mod team, and a moderation policy that exempts standard RP philosophy from moderator action. What else do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 04:09 AM
-1

As long as women would pick the guys from 300 over young Chuck Norris, you'd have great incentive to look more like the former than the latter. Pretty sure that there are more gay men who have the hots for the guys from 300 than straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 12:24 AM
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And unlike someone leaving for better pay or a promotion, there's nothing you can offer a woman in this position to stay. There would be if companies bothered with part-time jobs to begin with. But apparently those are only for dead-end careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 12:02 AM
5

I would agree with you, but RPW tells a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 11:56 PM
1

Funny you would call yourself a neckbeard, a lot of the nerds I know have tats.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 01:45 AM
0

Do you think people grow from seeds scattered to the winds and exist independent of each other? A lot of men seem to think that, which makes sense considering that most of them will never involve themselves in the raising of their own children, let alone spend a thought on how these children came to pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 01:28 AM
2

People are generally predictable, lets not pretend they aren't No doubt about that. What I personally find droll is when men pretend that they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 01:08 AM
2

What's with this obsession with a guys' height, anyway? Why should I care how tall a guy is when he invites me to a luxurous restaurant or makes me see heaven with his tongue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 11:14 PM
4

It's a common misconception among BPers that the "all" in AWALT means literally "all". But it just refers to an unspecified number of women. AWALT is roughly equivalent to saying "generally usually sometimes women are like that possibly maybe" but without the wishy washy rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 11:11 PM
1

You just admitted above that your post was intended to be sarcastic snark, and it's fairly obvious who your sarcastic snark was directed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 11:05 PM
0

You probably thought Jonathan Swift really advocated eating babies huh? So you admit you were circlejerking?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 01:50 PM
1

I don't understand why you think it's emasculating for a guy to apologize for something he did wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 01:46 PM
0

Actually they aren't. It is just that women only find the top 20% of men attractive. Which means that attractive men are in short demand. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 10:14 PM
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Negative consequences ARE a fact of reality, and if you disagree with that then you should go cry about it on Tumblr. No amount of SJWing is going to get rid of the inescapable fact that murderers, rapists, thieves, and people with poor judgment exist and will always exist. Do you believe they can be mitigated or eliminated, or are bad things that people do just a fact of life and nothing can be done about it? Do you believe that it is possible to design cars to be more or less secure, for examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 08:21 PM
0

You seem to think that negative consequences are a natural, immutable law that inevitably strikes, rather than the consequence of human action. Do you believe that the male desire to rape increases with the amount of equality between men and women? Or have men always wanted to rape women, and it's just that there haven't been as many women walking the streets at night in earlier times?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 08:11 PM
0

men exercising their rights What are you talking about there?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 08:05 PM
1

There are casualties to EVERY ideology and movement. A casualty of feminism and the equality movement is female safety. Pointing that out isn't suggesting that women should no longer be allowed outside. Of course not. They can stay outside as long as they want, but if they get raped then that's their own fault. Right? I haven't heard a whole lot of people who point out the hardships faced by certain tradesmen being given shit Strange, because that has been all over the news for at least 10 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 07:57 PM
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Are these women the WRITERS or the actresses? Tina Fey is the creator, writer, and lead actress (Liz Lemon) of 30 Rock. Because I dont think anyone doubts women can be great comedic actresses. Plenty of people have been doubting that here in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 07:43 PM
0

I think it's fairly well known that the man is supposed to be the entertainer, not the woman. If a woman is being funny and wacky, she's "embarassing". If a guy is being funny and wacky, he's "entertaining". Add to it the boy's club mentality that comedy industries in most countries have (and yes, that's a factor, because whether you get a job at all depends on who you know and who you're buddies with, funny or not).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 07:39 PM
2

This article is titled wrong. Or maybe you just disagree with it? There is no reason to pretend that your opinion is objective fact in a discussion about subjective points of view, you know. By the way, you haven't adressed the question even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 07:37 PM
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Attacking groups and ideas is explicitly okay as long as they are not specifically insulting individuals. Only insulting individuals get you banned. Well, would get you banned, but posters who espouse traditional RP ideas (as opposed to my nontraditional RP ideas) get special treatment around here, since the mods are afraid that if they'd be too strict with long-time RPers they'd leave the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 07:26 PM
-1

Don't you have to complain about women somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 12:34 PM
0

Why don't you show us on the doll where the disgusting woman touched you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 12:32 PM
-1

Asking questions = disagreeing in manspeak
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 12:26 PM
0

Try it with "imagine an extremely hot 10 you're having sex with, but who only lays back and thinks of England; and now imagine the gender-swapped version of it" next time. Does this ever actually work? Like, are guys actually capable of imagining an opposite sex scenario at all? Aren't they just pretending and going straight for agreeing/disagreeing based on their preconceived position, like they were going to do anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 02:52 AM
2

Guys on the other hand are a lot simpler when it comes to oral, just use a lot of tongue and don't bite. Not actually true, but B+ for effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 02:42 AM
1

Yea, it's pretty obvious that redpill men want a Mom they can fuck. That also explains their hate for women with children: They don't want competition for Mommie's tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:20 PM
1

Gotta love juicers who lift... there's nothing sexier than guys with big bouncy racks!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 09:54 PM
0

Pointing it out as though the mere act of saying the word "boys" implies "only boys" makes you look paranoid. Right, I'm obviously paranoid for assuming that the word "boys" refers to boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 08:06 PM
5

High school isn’t where it all began, though. Kids start socializing at age 4-6. You know in first grade who the cool kids are, who the weirdoes are, and where you stand. From age six, you’re either getting beat up, made fun of, and have next to no friends – not even male friends – or you’re one of the cool ones. And of course, only men ever get beat up, made fun of, and have next to no friends. Girls are all magical pink fairy princesses with thousands of adoring worshippers, from the day they …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 07:44 PM
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FYI, most guys who are cast into those roles tend to be 20+ yo supermodel types.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 07:40 PM
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It's not as if that was the first time. You are right, it's not the first time you respond with non-answers and evasions, and it's not the first time you respond with insults when called out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 07:31 PM
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Congrats on not bothering to answer even one question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 02:42 PM
0

Disagreed. No, not because all women constantly hamster away their shortcomings - but it is fairly common. Or maybe it's because men are so hostile towards woman who do speak their minds? Nevertheless you still have women who at some point in their live change their priorities and go from "fun-oriented" to "security-oriented" mode (and may actually successfully convince herself that the new type of guy she's into is what she really wants once she matured - see item #5) - and this is prototypical…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 02:12 PM
5

And the RP man's answer? Silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 02:09 PM
0

I'm not assuming anything, I'm asking a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 12:26 PM
0

I don't understand If you don't understand my posts, then why do you downvote them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 12:04 AM
1

It's almost as if the meaning of a statement depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 06:39 PM
0

That's inequality of the highest order. If you don't like it, take it up with Evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 04:19 PM
0

I'm not talking about treatment by women. I'm talking about the biological function of the male gender. Which is to be disposable sperm dispensers. TRP theory confirms this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 04:17 PM
1

I have another friend who just does cam shows and she literally makes a grand a week off it. Really? Is she independent or on a website? What I've heard about camming is that it's almost impossible to be independent because serious payment providers won't accept your business as legit; and if you go with an established website you're gonna get scammed up the wazoo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 04:10 PM
1

The spectrum is in favor of men since they have larger brains. And obviously, blue whales are the smartest species on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 04:07 PM
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It'd be way less likely to happen though. Why use the conjunctive? There are plenty of places where sex work is legal, and where it's still a shitty business to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 04:03 PM
1

Because the former wouldn't happen if the market was legal Still happens, it's just that the gangs target illegal immigrants instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 03:55 PM
-1

Honestly you see this everywhere. Male Redpillers, Gamergaters, MRAs, most of them are basically just male right-wing SJWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 03:49 PM
0

You don't view men as people. You objectify them. You want them to be your pets, and you have your techniques for accomplishing this evidently What, don't you agree that men are the disposable gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 10:00 AM
1

Which makes no sense to me from an RP point of view. As a girl I would have no desire to be shackled to some RP doofus if there's a cock carousel and a line of betas waiting for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 09:55 AM
3

Personally not a fan of banning people for their actions in other subreddits Why not? RP and RPW do this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 09:52 AM
0

I'm always amazed that other people experience the humans as being so unique and different, I've always found them to be so very predictable and similar. Case in point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 09:47 AM
1

I don't know you And apparently, you don't know who the OP is, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 09:55 PM
1

So what's your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 05:04 PM
1

Is he describing specifically "abusive" women, as per /u/In_Cahoots earlier post, or is this what women are like in love? You're a woman, hon, shouldn't you know how women are like in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 03:22 PM
1

What's loaded about that question? You said "They are the exact same things." I asked you to clarify. If you don't want to reply, don't reply. There's no need to do this song and dance where you accuse me of criminal behavior for asking a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:19 AM
0

It was only a question, sheesh! What's your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:14 AM
1

Answer: I don't advocate paying for dating advice products. And yet, you're doing free advertisement for this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:11 AM
1

Mostly I'm just sad that this stupid uproar is going to hand him and RSD LITERALLY hundreds of thousands of dollars. If not million+(I am not joking, this is a very pessimistic estimate of what he'll gain from this long-term). Why are you sad? Shouldn't you be rooting for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 07:14 AM
2

Why do you keep calling it repugnant when you think it's awesome and enlightened? Have more faith in your own convictions, sweetie!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 07:08 AM
3

It's what she was taught in highschool, back in the 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 07:07 AM
4

Question: What has this guy done for you that you're willing to shill for him here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 07:05 AM
1

Yea, it's like using a sockpuppet account on reddit. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 06:38 AM
1

I agree. There's nothing wrong with lying if you get something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 06:37 AM
0

Yea, I agree, women aren't abusing anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 06:21 AM
2

Yea, as a woman you gotta keep in mind that most men can't think straight when they're hard. When they're horny they don't think and just act like dumb gorillas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 04:46 PM
1

They like attention, and they want to violate societal norms. How are they violating societal norms?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 04:43 PM
2

You think getting raped, and getting raped in your fantasy are the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 12:52 PM
2

See, the problem with this is that you assume there aren't nuances to aggressiveness. Aggressiveness towards a goal, is not the same as aggressiveness towards your employees or coworkers, and the differences are very subtle because both are directed at the same people. What are those differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 12:42 PM
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Grow up and graduate from highschool, then we can talk. PS: I didn't mean this as an insult. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 12:31 PM
1

Beta Provider #1
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 06:54 PM
1

What's "betad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 05:07 AM
0

Who cares about values? I am saying that they do not think rationally when sexual desire is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 02:18 AM
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I spent a good 10 years of my life so terrified of sexual attention from men that I would intentionally make myself look as "asexual" as possible. I never once attempted to blame the males themselves for this, of course - I knew that it was entirely my problem and mine alone, and that to fault them for finding the opposite sex attractive would be utterly ridiculous. Still, it was an issue that greatly interfered with my life and relationships at times. Yea, it's the harsh lesson girls gotta lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 01:55 AM
1

We all know that men think only with their dicks. It's upon the woman to think with her head.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 05:09 PM
3

High status =/= alpha. Alpha is a guy I wanna fuck. High status is just a beta with bigger wads of cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 04:58 PM
1

Unicorns don't exist though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 04:51 PM
1

If he bux he's no alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 03:37 PM
1

TL;DR - Getting old sucks, lol. Don't tell the average TRPer, though - they are counting being able to nail young models until the day they die... Perfect for beta bux. Gotta love rich older guys...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 03:37 PM
1

Yea, but status, wealth and power are only really important for Beta Bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 01:23 AM
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Oh, they surely appreciate sex. And are vocal about it. But they don't appreciate the woman. That's what I mean. They say that they want a woman who has sex with them at the drop of a hat, then call you a slut for it afterwards. They have no appreciation for the women who give them sex, they only have appreciation for the sex. The same way women appreciate niceness and are vocal about it. Yet those who give it out freely (sex in the case of women, kindness in the case of men) don't get anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 08:42 PM
0

But most of them don't vocally appreciate it, either. They're constantly talking about how sluts are worth shit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 08:31 PM
1

For a lower class man who feels little hope of winning a rat race Isn't that just a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 08:26 PM
0

Isn't a woman like that what RP people (men and women) call "a slut"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 08:16 PM
2

You'd be ugly, and people would make an effort to tell you "nice ass" or "suck my cock, baby" while making jokes behind your back about how you're a stuck up bitch who won't talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 07:43 PM
-1

/u/we_are_legion proposed a woman who has NSA sex with a guy but doesn't get anything else from him. NSA sex... you mean sex where I read a guy's email afterward?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 07:40 PM
1

It's called being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 02:13 AM
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