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Go for it!
/r/askTRP12/09/16 12:03 AM
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LOL yet true, loved it. The litmus test for me is "How many cheat days on your nutrition do you have a month?" I never got cheat days/meals? Who exactly gets cheated and who exactly does the cheating?
/r/MarriedRedPill04/09/16 05:46 PM
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So really, the perfect date/gf experience but unfortunately she's a mercenary. Maybe I have a one-sided view being a guy, but if a woman were to put just as much effort in her life, from the culture to the health to the properness of no shit test and punctuality; wouldn't she herself have a better experience of her own life? Food for thoughts for everyone. Second thought, aside from the mercenary aspect, she's the female version of the basic principles of TRP: take care of your physical body by …
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 04:43 PM
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Be self directed... "Kill the Beta" of obedience. Kill the Beta of Blue Pill compliance. be a Pirate!
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 07:34 PM
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Very good point! Another way I read it a while ago was comparing TRP to PUA: PUA teaches you how to sell yourself better TRP inspires you how to become the better version of yourself. I am old, I have been following PUA for a long time, it helped me sell myself better; and when I first met TRP I got pissed off, because TRP showed me something that I didn't want to hear, TRP gave me answers to questions that I had for a long time; questions to which society game me answers that everyone agreed on…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 05:14 PM
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Why didn't you just ask your wife for an open relationship? I asked my wife for a divorce because that's what I wanted. And do you feel guilty when you cheat? No. I'm young (17) and want to know. You and I have quite different worldviews, I was brought up that marriage is a must for everyone, one wife, forever, and lived happily ever after. When I got divorced the first time I was the first one of my extended family and friends to do so. You grew up in a very different culture, not sure how usef…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:33 AM
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2 years ago things between my wife and I were in dire straits, I wanted a divorce and she didn't , but that's another story. I had a lover on the side who was single (never again) and I was spending weeks at a time at her place. So one day I told my wife that I had a lover. It was not a conversation nor a discussion, it was just me telling her. Keep in mind that I was at a point where I no longer gave a fuck about my marriage. That affair ended in early 2015. My relationship with my wife has imp…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 11:26 AM
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We live in a no-fault state, so adultery is not an issue; and they are having an amicable divorce with a mediator; the laws are pretty clear about division of assets, and they are doing joint-custody of the kids.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 03:03 AM
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Now imagine a world where people no longer promise monogamy to each other We live in a world were people say so, but then they do whatever they want, so in all practicality we live in your scenario. the government has no say in how your property gets distributed. Well, the government does, it sucks.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 12:59 AM
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Thank you for the input, I am fine this way. About 3-4 years ago I wanted a divorce, my wife refused. I know I can file on my own, we live in a no-fault sate, but we are doing OK financially, if we have an amicable divorce we'll both came out well, if it's a disputed divorce we'll both came out broke; and she knows that, that's how she has kept me married. So, now I have adapted and actually things between us are a lot better. But I have adapted and I am doing well and happy this way.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 12:58 AM
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Adaptation, I never thought it that way. In a way I have, then again this is the happiest I have ever been in my life.
/r/TheRedPill29/08/16 11:41 PM
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We learn. TRP works but there's a learning curve, and it's painful. And then there's luck!
/r/TheRedPill29/08/16 09:02 PM
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Different username. I change username ever couple of years. I was banned because I stated that in askMEN I was interested only in responses from MEN since I wanted to hear about experiences from MEN
/r/askTRP13/05/16 12:05 AM
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Your best bet is married women; and there are quite a few married women who are in your same situation. As far as single women, proceed with caution since it might get messy. Your best bet is women a lot younger than you who want to checkmark the boxes: fucked married dude fucked older dude
/r/askTRP12/05/16 10:37 PM
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Back in my days of consulting I would do fixed-fee per project with a couple of caveats: Scope of the project with deliverables and timelines was agreed upon at the start of the project. Each deliverable's timeline was stated as business days since inception of work. See #4 below. Meetings were not included in the fixed fees, but were on a hourly basis. Meetings included phone calls and my clock started at the time the meeting was called (not when the meeting started, since I am always on time).…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/16 10:34 PM
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Turn it around sexually: "I miss your lips on my D." and similar, creates a positive reinforcement on what really matters to me.
/r/askTRP12/05/16 10:25 PM
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I was banned from /r/askmen because in my post I asked that only men replied to my question that was geared towards men, since I was asking for men's experience on something.
/r/askTRP12/05/16 10:17 PM
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I find that those conversation never bring anything good to the table. Moreover either people lie or exaggerate. LOL.
/r/askTRP15/03/16 08:05 PM
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As a starter and a premise, the word "slut" should be removed from the dictionary. In a very simplistic way, a LTR is based upon common interests and common worldviews; so once you find your candidate just talk about who you are, hopes, dreams, personalities etc. Make a decision if you want to talk about each other's sexual past, and if so that becomes yet another aspect of getting to know one another; if you decide that someone's sexual past is not something that you are interested in discussin…
/r/askTRP15/03/16 01:47 PM
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Let's analyze this situation: One thing is clear: she doesn't associate you with her sex life. So, now it would be useful to her if you helped her. What's in it for you? And I don't mean sex, friends do favors to each other every day, but she's not your friend since you don't have a history. Has she offered anything? You know like taking you out to lunch, or dinner, or drinks to talk about this? My guess is that she expect you to do this for her with no reciprocation whatsoever. PASS for 2 reaso…
/r/askTRP24/02/16 02:44 PM
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Are we going to keep spinning plates into our 40s and 50s? I am 50-something and I am spinning 2 plates. It works! Forget about marriage and one relationship forever, nothing wrong about going from relationship to relationship once the magic is gone. Let me explain, let's say you're spinning plates, and then someone comes along that's more special to you that all the others and you decide to have a long term monogamous relationship with her. Fine, just don't move in together. After a while, may …
/r/TheRedPill16/01/16 04:14 AM
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She just showed you her true colors. Now, what are you going to do with that information?
/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 04:33 PM
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I saw it in my FB feed, and of course there were quite a few of my females FB friends making funny comments. I almost commented something along the lines of That's not polite behavior, but then I decided not to and refrain. If you read some of the posts, it's about TRP, describing AWALT behavior towards AF/BB. The solution: be Chad.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 04:32 PM
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Fat or out-of-shape and entitled to be so. You can't have an opinion on the matter and expecting you to be athletic with six-pack abs.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/16 04:38 PM
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I agree with this post, yet it's incomplete. There's a strategy to this, which is wait to ask for the date meet until you have generated enough attraction, too soon and she's not sufficiently attracted to you, wait too long and you're already in the friendzone. So: Have value to offer, you don't have to be Brad Pitt, but you have to be her best choice (see the other post about You can't outrun a Lion) Escalate, escalate, escalate. Somewhere out there there's an escalation ladder use it as a guid…
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 07:29 PM
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OP's is correct in his analysis "Alpha widows are, at best, plate material." Here's the problem: most women out there are indeed Alpha widows. How do you spot an Alpha Widow? It's actually pretty easy, ask her for her interests, or - better - look at her Facebook wall, if she is into some interest that's more masculine than feminine, chances are that she picked it up because of some Chad in her life: extreme skying? She picked it up to be close to Chad deep sea fishing? Ibid. MMA? Yup, Chad's sp…
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 05:02 PM
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You are correct. TRP is a sexual strategy in response to feminism's sexual strategy, in a way it's a power/control struggle, if you are not in control, she will be. The choice is yours, you can be a beta-bitch, or not; TRP helps you make that decision.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 04:51 PM
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Lurk enough on TRP and we'll read quite a few [FR] like this, or similar. I, for one, never get tired of them, nor bored. I know that they are not the norm but still somewhat a rarity in the male population. TRP works, but it's also a very hard pill to swallow. Something along this lines has happened to me, and after the initial euphoric state, I somewhat still could not believe that: How easy it was It was happening to me Alas it is that easy,and yes it can happen to anyone willing to swallow T…
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 04:43 PM
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You know that I’ve dated here and there, but nothing too serious. We know. We know. Maybe we can 'date' but nothing too serious here either.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/15 11:45 PM
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Oh well, no rule applies 100% to 100% of situation. You have your philosophy, I have mine. Mine works for me, and it works very well.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 09:24 PM
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Once a girl scores the Alpha Bucks, she'll either reduce him to Beta, or she'll think of him as Beta, and she'll yearn for a Alpha Fucks.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 09:15 PM
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There's a big difference between what women say they want, and their actions. Generally speaking, whatever they talk about, especially openly like in Pinterest, it's about Beta traits. No different than the Disney movie.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/15 10:54 PM
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WOW! This post hit close to home for many reasons which I am not going to list here. What really makes me think is the Lack of agency: when convenient women rally together, a woman is strong and capable of making decisions, choices in life etc; a point of view that I, as a modern male, fully support. I supported it when I was an AFC, then when I was a BP/BB, and even now when I am Rep Pill. And yet then women rally that He should leave her since it's not fair to her and similar garbage. Isn't th…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/15 06:40 PM
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You turned around your marriage in less than 8 month? That deserves as [FR] on its own. Do you mind sharing your experience with that?
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 07:50 AM
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That's what happens when you mix anonymity with emotionally charged issues.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 01:41 PM
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No. We have talked about it, and she's fine being the #2.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 11:18 PM
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I doubt she is, but if she were I would have no hesitations in filing for a divorce on my own.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 09:01 PM
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If you need advice on seduction r/seduction is a better place. The way AP and I is a funny story, we met in Boulder CO, far away from where we live, I was there for a convention she was there accompanying a friend who was attending the convention. It was one of those after hours business social and we got introduced, very casually. We were both attracted to one another, but since we're both introverts and since I am married and she was single we avoided each other on purpose. By pure chance we m…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 08:27 PM
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I don't have to, my wife knows ballpark what we have and where. I'm fine with sharing equitably and amicably; but if the divorce were to turn contested it wouldn't take much for lawyers' fees to irreparably wreak our finances; at which point I am willing to walk away with nothing.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 05:58 PM
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I got married 15++ years ago and back then I didn't know all I know today, and I want to say that things were different. So to address your question it was for her, I thought that's what I was supposed to do and stuff. Since this is my second marriage I can tell you that the potential benefits are enormous, if you find that woman that matches and complement your personality, the famous unicorn, you will have a companion and a partner and much more always available. But if your spouse falls short…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 04:57 PM
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Does your wife know about your lover?
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 03:36 PM
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In a relationship the person with more value has more leverage so to speak. TRP is about increasing one's value in order to not be subjugated to low value women and to be with higher value women and yet be of higher value. Both my wife and my lover are of high value by any measure, smart, bright, successful, beautiful; they are not low value by any stretch of the imagination.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 01:42 PM
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Good question. This is also my second marriage. The answer is NO, I don't with that I never got married, just like any relationship it started great, lasted a while, in this case well over 15 years. And in these 15 years the relationship/marriage has evolved, we have evolved as people, jobs, finances, personalities, intellect, priorities, and I guess the relationship per se has evolved as well. For the record we have no kids.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 01:38 PM
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Thank you, I guess it's the same in every sub.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 01:13 PM
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Dude! Bone up on The Red Pill and on "Dread Game".
/r/TheRedPill04/09/14 12:19 AM
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I am a guy and I can relate to that. I love my wife and she's great and all, but she doesn't excites me as much as my lover does. I try to be as excited with her as I am with my lover, but it's just not happening. We all have an ex-girlfriend that was just very special, especially in the bedroom, we never thought of her as marriage material, but as we look back we can't help but smile and wish we could have another ride on that.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 06:47 PM
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Not according to my lawyer.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 01:53 AM
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Well, in the past few months I've turned her into an amazing lover, so.... I get the credit as well according to your reasoning. Thank you fellow redditor.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 01:52 AM
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We have no kids. She works making 6 figures AND we have a pre-nup, so no alimony, We have no debts. so that's not an issues either. All the assets will be split according to the pre-nupt, it's clear cut, that's not a problem. The fact that I am having an affair has no weight.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 12:22 AM
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Yes I have my own insecurities, DUH! Not long ago I was a Blue Pill.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 12:19 AM
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I don't legally need her permission, I want her to be on board to make it easy on her, logistics and financials.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 12:18 AM
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No kids, so no child support. No alimony either, since that's part of the pre-nup, with the clause that if for any reason I end up paying alimony I will then have rights to her parents estate.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 12:17 AM
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After too many years of trying to make it work, I no longer want to.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 12:15 AM
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I am just trying to make it easier on her. The house where we live is mine, so she needs to find a place or I need to file and then if she doesn't leave call the sheriff pay a $150 fee and have her removed from the premises. I really don't want to do that, and she's leveraging on that to waste time in the false hope to fix things.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 12:15 AM
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I agree, the situation is not sustainable; the marriage is going to end sooner or later, I am hoping it will end on a good-enough note, but I really don't care anymore. When the marriage ends, I might end the affair as well if my lover gets the wrong ideas. It's spinning plates only going forward for me.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:20 PM
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It pisses me off as well. I think it's the residue of having been the Nice Guy, the idillic notion that Nice Guys do finish first and get more. We wish that we could get what we are getting now by being nice guys, instead we need to kill the nice guy within us, and act in the way that our Let's Be Friends friends used to tell us about their boyfriends who were jerks and yet they could not get enough of them.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:17 PM
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The fair thing would be for her to agree to the divorce. She doesn't it's messy. It's just the way it is.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 09:17 PM
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I was in a marriage until I didn't want to, and at that point, I called it quit, trying to make it as easy as possible for my wife of 15+ years. It would have been a lot easier for me to just file, and I might actually do. Wife and I are still living together and having sex, so why not make the most of it, especially since she's enjoying as well.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 09:17 PM
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I have no interest in retain what I have going on now, the marriage will be over sooner or later, so will the affair. Before swallowing TRP I was an accomplished PUA, I have no problem getting some, and I have no desire to get married again. Life's good.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 09:14 PM
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More than "fault" I like to think it was my responsibility that I didn't fulfill and I am now accountable. Remember, I was clueless, even worse than clueless I was doing exactly what society, romantic movies, my mother, everyone was telling me to do, I was the perfect husband in front of the world, and yet I was living a life of quiet desperation. Now I know better, and it's my time to live my life on my own terms. We've been married for 15+ years and she loved them all, except for the past few …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 08:26 PM
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It's been almost 20 years that I've known her, I have changed, Improved; she has not. It's cliche but we have indeed grown apart, as in I have grown and she's settled long time ago in something comfortable for her and too taxing for me.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 08:23 PM
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I've realized that my marriage is over. I don't want to be in it under these premises, and it's been too long. I'm out!
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 08:00 PM
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I agree with your commentary and actually it gets worse better. My wife was a virgin when I met her, so that has contributed to the issue. As a nice guy I thought she could grow sexually together, so I was patient, and I kept asking. Of course after 15 years it gets tired so I stopped asking. Having the affairs helped so I was no longer begging for sex. But looking in retrospect, I remember my days of dating when I was an AFC, we all know the stories we've heard from our girlfriends: "I don't do…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 07:57 PM
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Plain Vanilla. My fault, I kept asking: can we do this? Can we try that?. Plain Vanilla. My fault, I kept asking: can we do this? Can we try that?. Sex life in the past 1-2 months: wild wild wild! Thanks to TRP and Dread I'm like Let's try anal, I bought some great lube. or I'm emailing you an article on how to swallow, read it and you'll show me tonight what a good wife you are. And stuff happens, and she enjoys it too!
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 07:28 PM
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Looking in retrospect I agree with you. I was not Alpha back then, I was trying to affirm my masculinity by cheating. That's why I am doing what I am doing now, I checked myself out of the marriage, we're not filing because of her convenience but I don't feel any obligations to the marriage anymore; I am treating her and my lover just like 2 plates.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:58 PM
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Simple: pre-marriage assets: whatever we had coming into the wedding remain property of the original owner. For instance, my house, her trust fund, my brokerage account. assets acquired during the marriage: split 50/50, for instance we have a small vacation home, it's a cottage; the join checking account that we use to pay the bills, and a savings account. assets post divorce for instance her inheritance once her parents pass aways, it's hers and hers only. If I were to sell my company, the proc…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:55 PM
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She loves me and adores me, and she knows that she would never find anyone like me. Not only I am a nice guy, I am also a good guy.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:50 PM
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It's more like I let it happen. I wish I had known about The Red Pill back then when i started, but I was Mr Nice Guy with her.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:49 PM
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For one it's not going to happen, I know my wife. If as some point she'll give in and realize that we're done, we'll file and at the point she's free to do whatever she wants.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:47 PM
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I think we're all guilty as some point or another, on our way to better ourselves. I don't see so much as winning but more like living my own life. And as far as my wife goes, she'll be better off without me, then with me, now that I have checked out. She does agree that I have been a great husband all along.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:44 PM
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1 -2 months ago or so.... hard to define.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:42 PM
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I am not concerned about Divorce Rape, we have no kids, and a good pre-nup. Our finances are solid and straightforward, no debt, and the pre-nup highlights that we each walk away with what we had prior to the marriage, no claims on any future earnings (to protect her inheritance); and split the marital assets 50/50 which is limited to 1 investment account and our checking account. No claim on each other's retirement accounts.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:42 PM
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If you don't see anything, you can always PM me and ask me. I'm sure we're going to be divorced within a year.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:39 PM
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I'd rather fuck her every morning that I feel like.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:58 PM
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Tell me more about the woman that I've known for 20 years and you've never met, please enlighten me.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:58 PM
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It's a long story, if she consent and we do this amicably, she'll be better off financially and it will give her an easier way to transition from being married for 15+ years to being divorced.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:55 PM
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I am actually a very nice guy, and since you read this sub, you understand that being a Nice Guy is actually a problem for everyone involved.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:54 PM
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I actually don't care I am outcome independent I need to do what I need to do. Before swallowing TRP I was an accomplished PUA, getting laid is the least of my worries, I've checked out from my marriage, my professional life is fine, my lover... she's just a plate.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:53 PM
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My story is really simple: I got married as a quasi-Alpha and then somehow I became quasi-beta; I sought relief in affairs. It's a pretty banal story. You can check my previous posts, but I have swallowed the Red Pill, I want to live my own life on my own terms, that's all.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:19 PM
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Many gaps? No kidding, how can you put 20 years into a post. My story is really simple: I got married as a quasi-Alpha and then somehow I became quasi-beta; I sought relief in affairs. It's a pretty banal story. You can check my previous posts, but I have swallowed the Red Pill, I want to live my own life on my own terms, that's all.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:19 PM
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I can tell you right now: I will be living my own life on my own terms. Wife and Lovers are incidental to my life; they are NOT my life, I am.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 03:41 PM
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She has not cheated, she's not the type, I know her too well. Why she hasn't granted the divorce yet: she loves me and she adores me.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 03:31 PM
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In my state, a divorce is a divorce is a divorce, 2 people split, no punishment for any causes like adultery or drug use or whatever. We have no kids, so that's a mute point.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 03:30 PM
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No it doesn't. It protects my pre-marriage assets, her wealthy family assets, regulates how the finances are handled during the marriage, and how common property is split in case of a divorce. Here's the funny thing, her wealthy family pushed for it, after the marriage I came across some money (do you remember the dot-com era?) so according to the pre-nup, that stuff is mine, and mine only. Funny how life goes.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 03:28 PM
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I bet anything you want. I really love it when people on reddit knows my wife better than I know her after knowing her for about 20 years. Please enlighten me some more.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:47 PM
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I live in a No fault state. this is my second marriage and I've gone through divorce in the same state before, and I have a pre-nup.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:46 PM
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I see your point, I've been married to this woman for over 15 years, I don't expect anyone to see my point from a post in this sub. Morality lies in the eyes of the beholder.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:45 PM
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Second marriage, I've been through a divorce once before. I live in a no-fault state, so the affair doesn't matter, and I have a pre-nup.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:41 PM
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I am reading the book The Rational Male purchased from Amazon. I'm about 3/4 of the way.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 01:06 AM
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This is my marriage #2, I've got a prenup. I am a smart guy, I learn my lessons.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 06:22 PM
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Summery judgments are also very BP, take my word for it, this is the best I can do for the both of us given the circumstances.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 04:41 PM
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I see your point. Try to look at mine: as far as I am concerned my marriage is done, I told my wife so, for personal reasons she has to agree. The ball is in her court. I am doing so in order to protect her financial interests and her psychological health. Since she's playing the game of not playing ball, and I am doing this even though I don't have to (I guess the Nice Guy in me is still here), I don't feel I am bound to those vows. By emasculating me, did she follow those vows? I think not.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 04:40 PM
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It took me a long time, two failed marriages, lots of self help / PUA books.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 04:36 PM
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Actually in late 90's is when the first books on pick up came out, they mostly sucked compared to today's stuff, but in its infancy it was around. I would read all sorts of stuff, mostly self published books. I was a pretty good PUA, and I've been thinking along the lines of Red Pill before discovering Red Pill, my thoughts were confused and messy, but they were there, The Red Pill made them all organized, so, I was a Rep Pill in the making before discovering Red Pill. Wife and I have been fight…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 04:35 PM
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Rational Male / 48 Laws of Power
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 04:29 PM
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It's not a pet peeve, you need to upgrade your friends. Before you go to therapy make sure you're not surrounded by assholes.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 10:58 AM
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I second that, I have the same experience.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 10:56 AM
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It sounds like your MIL suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, take a look at this, although written for daughters of narcissistic mothers, it's a very good resource http://www.daughtersofnarcissisticmothers.com/characteristics-of-narcissistic-mothers.html
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/14 01:36 PM
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Is he living the Red Pill Life? The moment someone gives you something, it's yours, and yours only. If I gave you something, as a Red Pill guy, I meant to give you the pleasure to use/wear something; not an extension of my control over you, that's Blue Pill living. So, go ahead and exchange it for something that you will use/wear it, your SO was the catalyst of that, so he still deserves all the credit, and you should be very appreciative of the gesture.
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/14 01:31 PM
0

Best Part: "The definition of Power is not financial success, status or influence over others, but the degree to which we have control over our own lives. "
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 01:24 PM
1

"According to the Bible, Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines." My new name is Solomon
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 01:22 PM
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It all depends on her personality and the type of relationship. If you find yourself swallowing the pill during a relationship, and you realize that she's an enabler of Blue Pill Life, just text her and tell her that you can no longer see her. Cut any and all contact. If you're already living Red Pill Life, meet her for coffee in a public place, then tell her that there's a natural course to every relationship, and this is the time where your relationship has to end, and it's best to end it befo…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 01:17 PM
0

A physique transformation is the greatest addition to someone's game. Big time. I've been working out for about 2 years now and I went from skinny fat to a nice body, 14-15% body fat, nice biceps, v-shape torso, abs are there but not showing yet. Women notice. My gf can't get enough of my body, she loves to touch it, feel it, and much more. When I met a new woman sooner or later the topic of me working out comes up and... they want to touch. Could be that I am an older redditor at 52, and that w…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 11:54 PM
1

It's not that simple, and your should substitute handsome with attractive. A good looking guy who is a wuss at a bar with 20-something has no chance to a good PUA or someone decent looking with game.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 11:16 PM
1

Taking The Red Pill is just the beginning, at least now you're aware of your states of mind. I am sure you know what to do differently in the future, talk with multiple girls, making sure that their expectations are higher than your, you just want to talk and see if they are worthy of your time and if they are worthy more than your time. You're doing fine, keep at it.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 05:59 PM
0

It probably follows Pareto Principle, where 20% of guys beds 80% of available women. It would be interesting to find some data
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 05:32 PM
1

You can't push her, but you might be able to lead her by example. I'll share my experience with you: after about 2 years of working out my wife saw my results and expressed her interest in joining me in my workouts and adhere more stringently to my nutrition regimen; she was your typical fit woman, not fat by any stretch of the imagination, but not toned at all. Within 6 months she had lost about 10 lbs from 115 to 105, (she's 5'5"), go down one size from XS to XXS, from 0 to 00, and she has acq…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 02:53 PM
0

You just described my life, former nerd here.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 02:45 PM
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If you are looking to replace your wife with someone else, keep the ring. If you're only looking for some fun here and there, keep the ring, it sends a message, the right message.
/r/seduction23/06/13 03:10 AM
0

You're correct everyone's marriage is different, so I love my wife and she loves me back, actually she adores me; no other agreement of any sort.
/r/seduction18/06/13 02:40 AM
1

You're right! (It's none of your business.)
/r/seduction17/06/13 05:41 AM
0

Videos? What videos?
/r/seduction16/06/13 09:11 PM
-2

...but my couch is red!
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:48 PM
1

I don't approach other women, I just meet and talk with people including women and I don't hide the fact that I am married. All my lovers knew that I was married.
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:47 PM
0

Guess so... ELI5?
/r/seduction15/06/13 01:14 PM
0

Research the psychology of the color Red.
/r/seduction15/06/13 04:03 AM
0

RED, cloth. Of course it's scotch guarded!
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:43 PM
2

Wine tasting, parties with friends, supermarkets, neighbors, friends of friends, business situations (not working together), business trips/conventions (did you see the movie Up in the air?), sharing a cab, lunch al fresco, Whole Foods food demonstration, buying xmas gifts, walking the street, walking the beach off season, photography groups, watching local bands playing, in all practicality: while living my own life.
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:43 PM
1

I am not an endurance athlete, but I have a good body thanks to working out.
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:40 PM
1

I don't approach. I live my own life, doing my own thing, I am pretty social, I meet people every day: male, female, ugly, beautiful, fat whatever. Some of them are beautiful women, for some of them I get a liking for them and some of them reciprocate... once my vibes are responded with vibes coming from her, things escalate, at times very fast (a few hours) at times very slow (up to one year), but they do escalate.
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:40 PM
1

Good.
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:37 PM
2

Not what I meant. When I was young and an AFC I thought: if only I could get a gf, I would be happy. Once I got a gf I thought: if only I could get a nice gf, I would be happy. Once I got a nice gf I thought: if only I could get someone worthy of marrying, I would be happy. Once I married a beautiful nice woman, well... that didn't last, long story. Once I was divorced and single I thought: If only I could become good with women.... I became good with women. My mistake all along was to rely on t…
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:37 PM
2

The principles and strategies are the same, the tactics might vary a bit. My platonic friend is single.
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:31 PM
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What sticks in my mind is TofuTofu (former mod in here) and Mark Manson's PostMasculine.com also an user in here. I also like AskMen.com, the Art of Manliness, and ZenHabits.com.
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:30 PM
0

Yes and No. In the short term, what's not to like about making love to a new good looking woman, in the long term that's not what life is all about, at least not all of it, there's a lot more. It doesn't hurt!
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:28 PM
1

Not just but I think that if you take care of that, you will be taking care of everything else in the process. By inner game I don't mean a series of cheap tricks, I mean working on yourself to become your own ideal. Some people in Seddit do write about that stuff.
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:27 PM
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Good.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:47 AM
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To me it's not about pickup, it's about a state of mind; the women's factor is only a byproduct of living the life of one's dream. There is a lot of self-improvement content out there, some better than other, and I am not talking about PUA. Go for it, work on yourself, women (money, happiness, confidence, etc...) will follow.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:46 AM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1f9wxx/the_above_the_game_book_kickstarter_project_is/
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:43 AM
1

Whether you can or you can't, either way you're right! Work on your confidence / Inner game.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:43 AM
2

Very early 50's Yes Speed Seduction stuff. There's some fluffy garbage in SS, but the fundamental are solid. 25-40something; with the majority being in their late 30's. Age does make it harder to hookup with 20-something, but it happens, girls with daddy's issues, or girls who want to try doing an older dude. I like PostMasculine, most of TofuTofu's stuff, Seddit's sidebar and its linked content, and content on Seddit that deals with personal growth and confidence more than cheap tactics to get …
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:42 AM
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25-40something; with the majority being in their late 30's.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:36 AM
2

Family and PUA are not activities that can be combined, more like they are 2 separate activities.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:35 AM
1

Women are everywhere, that's where I meet them. Most are married like me, some are single. But I do not go to bars like most people in Seddit advocate. My schedule is limited, but I make the most of it. I usually meet them for intimate times at their house, a few times in my office (I have a private office with a nice comfy couch).
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:34 AM
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That was not the point.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:31 AM
3

You don't need me. Did you check TofuTofu's new book?
/r/seduction14/06/13 03:46 AM
2

You know how it is, food and sex go hand in hand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S449KdjPKrY
/r/seduction21/05/13 04:02 AM
1

You're a troll, or you're in the wrong sub: /r/relationships, /r/AskWomen , /r/dating_advice are more appropriate; or both.
/r/seduction20/05/13 02:20 AM
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You're hungry. You open the fridge, grab 2 slices of bread, ham, cheese, lettuce, a tomato, mustard. Put one slice of bread on the table, smear the mustard, position the lettuce, the tomato slices, the ham, the cheese. Cover with another slice of bread. Bite into it. It tastes so good, doesn't? And it's perfect since you were so hungry. Half way through it you start to wonder: am I eating a sandwich, a sub, a panini, a hoagie....? The answer is: no matter how you call it, it is fulfilling your n…
/r/seduction20/05/13 02:17 AM
1

Sunday night 10:00 PM. You only need one, and only one woman tonight, don't you? Look around, there are hundreds of women. You only need one. Go get her tiger!
/r/seduction20/05/13 02:12 AM
2

Well, actually you shouldn't! For one seduction is not about lies nor about manipulation. If you need directions say so, if you want to talk to her and get to know her, say so. It's a problem when people say one thing and they mean something else. And then there's the cardinal rule that you should never pay a compliment to a woman for something she has not earned, and You're cute/pretty/beautiful etc. are classic no-no's. I see that you are fairly new to Reddit, the sidebar is a good place to st…
/r/seduction01/02/13 03:04 PM
1

OK, this is life, not everyone is the same. I am saying that some, but not all, people (male and female) do hook up here and there. Good places to find each others are: bars & clubs in major metropolitan areas, vacation spots, especially bars & clubs A Friend with Benefit is not a random hookup, it's just friends, enjoying some extra benefits.
/r/seduction26/01/13 03:52 AM
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Random hookups happen quite often, bars, clubs, vacation spots. Enjoy the ride, whether you're cruising comfortably, or having a wild ride!
/r/seduction25/01/13 08:30 PM
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For those of you who need it in writing: 1. I wish I'd had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me. "This was the most common regret of all. When people realise that their life is almost over and look back clearly on it, it is easy to see how many dreams have gone unfulfilled. Most people had not honoured even a half of their dreams and had to die knowing that it was due to choices they had made, or not made. Health brings a freedom very few realise, until t…
/r/seduction25/01/13 05:31 PM
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When you talk about Godiva chocolate you talk about consumption, which is not relevant to the scope of r/seduction. A better metaphor is a car. You get a car, you need to decide whether you buy it or lease it. Of you can get a rental at Hertz, or you could join Zipcar. Let's say that you decide to buy the car outright, brand new or used (gently used or with high mileage). You drive it around and you're happy with it. Some people trade it in every so often as soon as they can get a hold of a bett…
/r/seduction25/01/13 05:20 PM
2

little ?
/r/seduction25/01/13 04:59 PM
1

Just laugh it off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0
/r/seduction25/01/13 04:58 PM
0

Having an affair is not necessarily a bad thing. At times in life we need to pick the lesser evil.
/r/seduction12/01/13 01:42 PM
1

It's not about winning. It's never about winning. As a former platinum member of the AFC Federation, I can go on record that Anything is better than an AFC. I am a better man today than I ever was.
/r/seduction12/01/13 01:43 AM
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Write your comment down, as well as this life is not black and white. Once you are 50, read both your statement and mine, you'll understand. Thank you for your wisdom.
/r/seduction12/01/13 01:27 AM
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We grew apart. I didn't cheat on my first wife, ever! I was in love, I was in love even when I found myself in a sexless marriage, it took me a few years to muster the courage to leave her. I was an AFC!
/r/seduction12/01/13 01:18 AM
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I used to be a nice guy. The subject of nice guys finish last and jerks has been discussed before in here. It's not really that I treat them like crap, it's that I express to them my needs, not in a needy way, but in an assertive manner, and guess what? They have needs to. It doesn't make mush sense to me either, it took me a while after I came across PUA to understand it. But this is what I know: It works.
/r/seduction12/01/13 01:16 AM
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Work stuff.
/r/seduction12/01/13 12:56 AM
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I am married. Second marriage.
/r/seduction12/01/13 12:55 AM
-1

Liquid lunch: drinks in lieu of food.
/r/seduction12/01/13 12:55 AM
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Keep on with the PUA stuff, once you get to me my age, there are a lot of 20-something girls who have daddy's issues.
/r/seduction12/01/13 12:45 AM
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Here's the point, if you are a nice guy, and it's driving your crazy that .. you get nowhere and in the friend zone, it might be because she got her kinks satisfied on her way to you. You might need this http://www.amazon.com/Keychain-Jizz-Breathalyzer-Portable-Detector/dp/B006536ZXC/
/r/seduction12/01/13 12:44 AM
1

You're a smart man. Thank you for taking the time to address my question.
/r/seduction07/11/12 09:48 PM
1

What do you think about guys like me who are good enough at PUA that fuck with their minds and are able to get laid often, we don't lie about our intentions at all, but we are only interested in sex, the chase excites us and them, the kinky sex excites us and them too. But there will never be more than a sexual relationship, and at times if we hang around long enough it's the woman that starts saying that she'd like to be more. In a way we do provide a service, these women are hungry for adventu…
/r/seduction07/11/12 04:13 PM
1

The truth shall set you free. Add confidence, and you're set to go.
/r/seduction22/10/12 12:43 AM
2

Bring up your confidence level, just open and talk with the women you're attracted to, and when the conversation turns to your status tell the truth by saying It's complicated and if they want to know more say I am in an open marriage; don't go into more details, don't offers additional explanation either, continue your game as if what you just said was business as usual.
/r/seduction21/10/12 02:04 PM
1

Tripp, what's your take on dating married women / dating multiple women; you know what society labels as cheating?
/r/seduction03/10/12 10:08 PM
1

Life tends to appear complicated, with time we should all find what makes us happy. Chances are that no 2 people find happiness in the same manner; the search is an individual journey, and no experts nor gurus knows better.
/r/seduction28/08/12 07:44 PM
1

Don't take my advice. Don't take anyone's advice. Read, process, see what works for you, see with your own eyes, and intellect. Is your present state working for you with no needs of improvements? If so, congrats! Otherwise, do something, anything, but do something different.
/r/seduction28/08/12 03:53 PM
1

How I became a bad boy? It's really not that complicated. Being a nice guy I was exposed, by way of the women who friendzoned me and gf who cheated on me, on the way bad boys were able to get the girls, with a lot less effort than a nice guy like me. So, it took a while, trial and error, being aware of women's reactions, and what worked and what didn't work. Now I am the bad boy, and it's pretty sweet: I get plenty of sex, I have plenty of time for myself, I do what I feel like in life without g…
/r/seduction28/08/12 02:32 PM
1

The fact that you are not convinced doesn't change reality.
/r/seduction28/08/12 02:25 PM
1

I used to be the quintessential nice guy, safe, perfect bf/husband... but (most) women need both, the safe and the bad boy. I am the bad boy now; much more fun. ;-)
/r/seduction28/08/12 12:43 AM
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YES I got trashed there, and.. it's OK. For one this is reddit after all, where at times it's like being raped and the perpetrator gets a standing ovation http://youtu.be/P1C5dtE0s9k . It is a very delicate subject matter. I remember the first time I found out my gf was cheating on me, I was devastated. I think there's a difference between an affair and cheating. Or to put it in different words, between an extramarital relationship and fucking around. An extramarital relationship is a relationsh…
/r/seduction10/08/12 02:28 PM
1

I think your title should state: What does "significant one" mean? What should it mean? I am married, I love my wife, and yet I am having an affair, see http://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/ps96h/i_love_my_wife_and_i_am_having_an_affair_ama/ Like you I have a special someone, and yet I have the need and want for something more than just one woman, and it's not just about sex, it's about a lot more than just sex. Ever since I wrote that post I broke up with my affair, and I am now out t…
/r/seduction02/08/12 06:35 PM
0

Fair? Good point. I am assuming you're referring to my wife. She's happy, very happy, she loves me very much, and I lover her very much, and she feels great about our marriage.
/r/seduction18/06/12 12:28 PM
1

I am actually married. It's complicated, I love my wife, she loves me, we are not swingers, nor we are in an open marriage. It's just that every so often I play around.
/r/seduction17/06/12 07:46 PM
1

It's complicated, I love my wife, she loves me, we are not swingers, nor we are in an open marriage. It's just that every so often I play around.
/r/seduction17/06/12 07:46 PM
2

Something happened. If he brings it up, chances are that no good can come up from it, while one's behavior within the context of the present relationship is what's most important in that relationship. Similar to details about ONS and other mischievous happenings in everyone's life.
/r/seduction14/06/12 12:38 AM
1

Don't tell anyone, ever. Not even after 2 months, or after 20 years.
/r/seduction13/06/12 11:31 AM
1

Thanks for reporting from the field.
/r/seduction13/06/12 01:08 AM
2

1) Don't tell the girls you approach about those incidents. We grew apart is a good story, and not far off either, you did what you did because the relationship was not as strong as it once was due to... growing apart. 2) The Once a cheater, always a cheater is not true. Take a deep breath, you're overthinking it. Have fun, live your life, one day at a time.
/r/seduction13/06/12 01:07 AM
1

I hear you bro, it's not as easily answered as one who's not into your situation would believe. I suggest your change your mindset, instead of thinking that you are doing this to keep your skills up, gaming girls but then interrupting before closing. What if you were to think of it as being friendly is part of who you are, and maybe avoid night game venues (bars and clubs) where women there have certain expectations, and continue being your own self and friendly self during day game in day game …
/r/seduction11/06/12 06:25 PM
1

Is there a /r/mojo? You're not alone Life is a challenge, and when we master something, we need more of a challenge. You seem to be doing OK in the seduction part of your life, now you need to up the game like trying to pull off a 3-some with your SO and FWB, or take upon greater challenges in other parts of your life like work, or a sport, or transform one of your hobbies into a mastery of some sort.
/r/seduction11/06/12 05:39 PM
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Generally speaking YES, unless you are in New York City, or riding the subway in any major city past 11 PM. Once in a while you'll get some reply from the other party like: What are you looking at? Do I know you? What? Etc... some are positive, some are potentially negative. It is a good exercise in engaging with people, creating rapport, and having a great time.
/r/seduction11/06/12 05:35 PM
1

Thank you and Namaste.
/r/seduction11/06/12 05:32 PM
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If you're not sure, this is not for you.
/r/seduction10/06/12 01:20 PM
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It's a question of preference and situation. My preference: I prefer to exchange email first My Situation: since I am married, I give her my email and phone # and ask her to contact me so that we can continue the conversation or getting to know each other better; it's a pre-qualifier, if she calls she's primed for more.
/r/seduction10/06/12 01:19 PM
2

Good point, great find.
/r/seduction08/06/12 04:55 PM
5

There's a reddit for that too /r/nofap
/r/seduction08/06/12 04:54 PM
1

Well, when it comes to being PUA, married man have special needs so to speak, some are logistics, some are pure PUA material.
/r/seduction08/06/12 04:53 PM
2

I know the feeling. How old are you?
/r/seduction06/06/12 08:31 PM
2

ALSO: you might want to create a Facebook Page for this blog, and a twitter account, so that once you post you can tweet and post on your Facebook blog. If you are a bit more advanced, you can have it done automatically by way of plugins etc.... A bit more advanced, you can use the Facebook Page as a platform for discussions on your articles, in a way that it will ALSO show up on your blog. Look also into http://disqus.com/
/r/seduction05/06/12 01:46 PM
1

it's never too late, welcome to the new you!
/r/seduction05/06/12 01:41 PM
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Real man of genius, I like how crystalizdphoto called it, the long game. I learn something new & good everyday in here.
/r/seduction02/06/12 01:25 AM
2

That's pretty normal, alcohol removes the * inhibitions* and you are more yourself than when you are sober. Try hanging out /r/howtonotgiveafuck and also this is a MUST READ: http://inoveryourhead.net/the-complete-guide-to-not-giving-a-fuck/
/r/seduction01/06/12 06:03 PM
2

No proof --> not true
/r/seduction31/05/12 08:48 PM
3

I like the Live with style and ease. I also prefer inner game to maturity and experience, oh well. Good start, I suggest you delete the Here we go… post, and add an About me page. As far as blogging there are 2 main schools of thoughts: 1) Post daily, if not more (this is the most prevalent opinion) 2) Post when you have something of value to contribute (this is what I like), I would add at least once a month. That's from a blog-only perspective, from a business/marketing point of view... it's n…
/r/seduction31/05/12 08:47 PM
2

Think of it that it's all an escalation. I am not sure where the start is, but at some point early in the interaction, you might want to ask her name or state your name first... follow it with the classic handshake. Yes it might be old fashion, but it is a way to (psychologically) initiate kino, and if she's not telling you her name, or she tells you her name but doesn't want to shake hands... something's now right, either too fast, or wrong context, or not (enough) attraction... whatever. So, i…
/r/seduction31/05/12 08:39 PM
1

Hello PickAddicts, welcome back... The way I look at it, the seduction skills are actually life-skills, that we get to use and master also when we are in a committed relationship. For instance: talking to everyone and anyone, just for the sake of engaging people and with people work: seduction is about creating attraction, attraction in any sense. No matter what you do for work, even if you are a student, or unemployed looking for work, we are always selling something: ourselves. with the SO: th…
/r/seduction31/05/12 04:04 PM
1

France? That's not a different culture, not even a different planet, it's a totally different galaxy, on a different time-space continuum, especially when it comes to male-female roles and relationships. Befriend some american who has lived there for a while, and get him/her to show you around. You're probably coming out too aggressive, here's a different approach, something that in the USA would be considered too Beta: approach people, male and female, and tell them your situation, tell them th…
/r/seduction31/05/12 03:55 PM
3

Improv classes give great life skills, from creativity to teamworks. If you don't have an Improv class near you, there are a couple of books on the subject, or you can take a beginner acting class at your local community college, adult education center, or ask about community theatre companies. Social life is about the experience that others have of us, so is seduction within a certain social context (boy + girl for the purpose of sex). Acting is about giving the audience a better experience of …
/r/seduction31/05/12 03:51 PM
2

Good point. This is the way I look at it: social life is a series of interactions. Each interaction consists of action <--> reaction, if you don't get positive reactions, it's a sign that there's something not working, maybe it's you, maybe it's her, maybe it's just bad timing or what not, YOU have to be the one to recognize when it's time to move on, before she does, otherwise you'll (both) feel you've wasted time. There's more: while you are the one that initiates the interaction, you need to …
/r/seduction31/05/12 03:41 PM
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That's what inner game is all about, living a life that is internally referenced and not externally referenced; you are a whole and complete person, you need no external validation for your life. Work on it.
/r/seduction31/05/12 03:27 AM
1

No talk, just booty. This way there's no misunderstanding that it's only about the booty.
/r/seduction31/05/12 03:25 AM
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/r/howtonotgiveafuck/
/r/seduction31/05/12 03:23 AM
1

it's not a game of meeting women/girls. The ultimate game is the inner game, and you can work on that 24/7, starting with your state of mind as the first step, and with talking with anyone and everyone as your second step. So, talk with everyone you come across, school... talk with the people that you usually do not interact with, same in Church, the point is to make conversation, and make them talk, so that YOU are confortable talking. And when you meet a HB, it's just another conversation, doe…
/r/seduction30/05/12 09:37 PM
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The Definitive Guide To Confidence: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/s9m4b/the_definitive_guide_to_confidence/ NUF SAID!
/r/seduction30/05/12 09:30 PM
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Only you can know the answer to your question, read the basics in the sidebar, continue following this board, read this great article: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/s9m4b/the_definitive_guide_to_confidence/ BUT, sooner or later you will have to go out there and live your life.
/r/seduction30/05/12 09:29 PM
1

Great contribution. It should be added to require reading in the sidebar.
/r/seduction30/05/12 09:28 PM
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Absolutely! There are plenty of women that you can sleep with. At the same time you need social validation, and what's better than a buddy who knows you respect his ... life ... and a girl who has a 1/2 crush on you and who has witnessed first hand that you are indeed a gentleman? And, just like mariodood suggested, teach him a few things about flirting in general, so that you can be each other's wingman.
/r/seduction30/05/12 09:26 PM
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This, as well as the other post are quite interesting. Now, what happens when dealing not with an Alpha male, but with an A-hole who is so insecure that has the personality of a bulldozer and tries to over-alpha you? Especially in Corporate America this specimen exists, and he's successful in establishing dominance by arrogance, and keeping devote (insecure) followers
/r/seduction30/05/12 06:41 PM
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There's a vast discrepancy between what girls say and what girls do. Sure they like to feel 'wanted' and 'chased'; but - unbeknown to them - they also like the mystery and the challenge.
/r/seduction30/05/12 05:36 PM
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Just because you're on a diet, it doesn't mean you can't look at the menu
/r/seduction30/05/12 01:50 PM
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What if the entire explanation is a bunch of BS? It doesn't change the FACT that most women are attracted to bad boys most of the times; while nice guys do finish last. Don't take my word for it, go out there and observe, and - most importantly - how's life working out for you?
/r/seduction30/05/12 12:13 PM
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Nice going dude!
/r/seduction30/05/12 12:09 PM
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1) Some people are just mean. They are not worth your time. 2) You need better friends, people who do not enjoy hanging around mean people. You can fire your present friends and find new ones 3) Read the intro and FAQ on the sidebar, that and other similar resources will help you become a better person, develop your own personality, practice your personal interests. 4) Maybe the night game and similar environments are not a good fit for you, a bit too aggressive. Do in life the things you are pa…
/r/seduction30/05/12 11:53 AM
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Absolutely! Go in the field, try it your yourself, see what works for you, what doesn't, be your own man. Having said that, most people can learn a few things from books, forums, articles, etc. Of course there's a lot of misinformation out there, but some of the good advice is actually based on science. You see, today is not different than 50+ years ago, some people are natural at attraction, some other need help. The science comes in since behaviorists, psychologists, and linguists have studied…
/r/seduction30/05/12 11:46 AM
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Take an Improv class.
/r/seduction30/05/12 11:37 AM
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Easy: you've been friendzoned. Try googling how to get out from friend zone . You're also a nice guy, which is not good, I know you're proud of it. but.. how's that working out for you so far in your life? There's a great book No More Mr. Nice Guy, get yourself a copy, it will change your thinking, and the way you look at the world. And don't worry, it will not turn you into a Jerk.
/r/seduction30/05/12 11:32 AM
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Directions? Openers? Read the intro and FAQ in the sidebar, and go out there upping up your game.
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:53 AM
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There are many reasons why she's in Europe, one of them is because of the European Boys, no much time for you.
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:52 AM
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Sure, you can pull the Naked Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTZ8S2dAHUU
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:50 AM
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Ha ha ha ha ha I am tall, and today a woman told me that I am too tall for her. My friend, you are a bit rusty, and yet you went out there and went for it. So, read the link on the sidebar, continue to follow this board, but most importantly continue to go out there and keep at it. It would help if you could come up with a few come backs about your height, maybe even use it as an opener to get it out of the way Would you date someone of my height? Or, Am I too tall for you? P.S.: As far as the "…
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:46 AM
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Compliments are for good behavior, not for gift of nature. The attitude is so, you're beautiful. So what? What else do you have to offer?
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:37 AM
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Maybe you're too much of a nice guy, find women on the rebound or tired of bad boys, who get their "fix" of niceness before going back to the game and try to fix the bad boy, again and again and again. Women like a challenge, maybe you open up too much, too early, and you no longer represent a challenge
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:35 AM
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For the gay remark of similar: I see you play naughty because you want to be spanked. I like it rough too, but.. not so fast, not yet As far as the wing HB9, I have the same, and it surprises everyone that we are just friends, I say We're just very good friends, we go back a long time, which is the true. In my case I am also married, and I say so, therefore when I am asked if she's my girlfriend I say Nope, I am a married man. I say that to married women that I hit on, and at times I end up slee…
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:30 AM
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IF YOU DON'T ASK, THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS NO This is the inner game that I use in life, business, everything.
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:24 AM
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IMO: If it's a date, first date, and you asked her out: man up and pay for the date.
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:23 AM
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The PUA game as intended in this board is perfectly suited to the majority of women of American culture. Women from other cultures, even if it's Canada or Europe have different response mechanism, is she's from Asia even more so. What's her nationality?
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:13 AM
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OK, so if you didn't come out needy you did come out as too available; make her work hard(er) for you, keep the mystery, you are busy and could make time for her, is she makes time for you.
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:10 AM
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It doesn't matter what you say what it matters is how you say it. Moreover the more natural and impromptu you ARE, the less scripted you will sound, DUH! I know. So, see what the context is, coffee shop? Remark on her drink: WOW that sounds complicated! Train/bus/public transportation: don't you feel that if the train/bus/metro is late they should at least serve stale pretzels and peanuts like the airlines? Next time I am going to bring my flask or martini. Oh wow! and here I thought I was the o…
/r/seduction30/05/12 02:07 AM
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I'll go out on a limb here, there's a book out there titled He's Just Not That Into You: The No-Excuses Truth to Understanding Guys, (I've read it to gain some insiders' info), maybe she's out-gaming you. One of the things the book goes into is about text messages, email, etc... how to make the guy wait, be irrational etc... I am sure you can find a copy at your local bookstore, leaf through it and see if she's employing those tactics on you.
/r/seduction30/05/12 01:57 AM
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Excellent dude! Live will NEVER be the same.
/r/seduction30/05/12 01:48 AM
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most of the party goers will be female. GREAT! Demonstrate your value by talking with each and everyone of her friends, equal opportunity with everyone. It's like you are creating allies, engage with one, once you are at the peak of the conversation, with a smooth excuse break the flow, and move to the next ally, leave each one wanting more (of you), without hitting on them. Talk to everyone including the guys, most importantly the guys. Once the party is over, say something like "I was just get…
/r/seduction29/05/12 10:10 PM
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You: Isn't always a bit awkward when at a party you get introduced to someone new? She: surely she says something, if she doesn't wait for her response, anything, even just a smile. You: What do you say? What do you say to a person whom you know nothing about? She: surely she says something, if she doesn't wait for her response, anything, even just a smile. You: Let's see, what are the 5 words that descrive who you are? Take it from there. Variance: 5 movies you like best, 5 books, 5 places on e…
/r/seduction29/05/12 10:04 PM
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Talk to everyone, anyone, at any time. Male, female, old, young, fugly or beautiful. Just for the sake of striking a conversation, engage them. This is what your inner game is all about, once you master the art of engaging strangers in conversation, for conversation's sake, the hot woman is nothing more than another conversation.
/r/seduction29/05/12 10:02 PM
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Just be honest, be yourself: I'd like to see you outside the lab, why don't you give me your number so that we can make it happen? It will work best after you do something to demonstrates your high value.
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:59 PM
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Good for you! Practice practice practice. And more practice, that's what's all about. Now, look at everyone in the eyes, all the times, not just hot women. And engage in conversation with everyone and anyone you meet, male, female, fugly, pretty, young, old; it doesn't matter, your game is to engage them in conversation, that's all. It's your inner game.
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:57 PM
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So, you dont' have time to read, and you don't want to put the effort. I understand Here's the deal: you are the product of 25 years of misinformation and bad habits, and you expect that in a matter of a few seconds, or a couple of minutes at least you can master what took some of us years of de-conditioning, un-learning, and re-learning? Nobody in this board can help you. Actually, I can, here it is: "seduction at its essence is about becoming a better man, a man that attracts good things in li…
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:52 PM
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This one has worked a few times for me before: "I am short in cash, how about we find some schmuck that would offer to buy you a drink, I then pretend to be upset because you are with me, and we'll get the guy to buy me a drink as well" Women are used to be offered drinks, at times (often) they challenge each other on how many drinks they get offered, or how soon, but in all practicality it's always the same game, that gets old soon. This way it ups the ante, and provides them a new challenge. I…
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:48 PM
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Me I am sure you have heard all the lines in the world from guys trying to pick you up She nods. Me Want to hear some new material? She smiles Me Buy me a drink
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:43 PM
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Demonstrate value to everyone, males, females. young, old, fugly, beautiful. Approach her for a brief conversation, then retreat with an excuse at the peak of the conversation, have her chase you.
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:41 PM
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I know you're looking for specifics, but in reality specifics do not work. In one word what you are looking for in a date, or in any date, is to escalate, escalate, escalate. Now you're going to ask: escalate to what? And that is something that you and only you have the answer to. These are some of the possible answers: you want to marry this woman (improbable, but I had to put it here) you want to have a ONS, in this case you want to escalate to f-close (this is the other end of the spectrum fr…
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:36 PM
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It's complicated. by driving her home, you demonstrated that you are a nice guy, doing nice things just for the sake of it, and the female brain doesn't find that attractive since it doesn't make her feel special (makes no sense to us guys, but... female brain is different) by driving her home, you spent enough time with her that she has categorized you in the thank you but not thank you zone, the mystery is gone, same as being friendzoned. Maybe you're already friendzoned.
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:29 PM
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Read and re-read the basics (http://redd.it/ero8h), and more importantly go out there and practice practice practice, practice talking with everyone and anyone, male, female, ugly, pretty, old, young, create rapport, and just have a good time engaging in conversations. When you get close to something sexual, practice practice practice will help, and a bit of alcohol has always worked as a social lubricant. You're going to make mistakes, that's OK, FR here, get advice, go back out there. Think of…
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:20 PM
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I liked your approach, except for the "I knew an Arielle. She was a bitch.", maybe it's personal preference, but I prefer to say away from negatives. I would have said that the Arielle that you knew was one of your friends' girlfriend and she was one of the greatest person you've ever met. Or something to that effect.
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:15 PM
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This is easy, it's covered in the basics (http://redd.it/ero8h). TALK TO EVERYONE, male, female, ugly, beautiful, young, old, it doesn't matter, talk with everyone and anyone, at all times. This is for your inner game, get into that habit, so that your true interest is to strike conversation for the same of finding interesting and intriguing conversations. With practice, it will show naturally.
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:11 PM
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Ok, at times people (women) are just not in the mood, or maybe whatever. It happens, move on. Just like ndn_ninja15, drop your friend WTF is that about trying to alpha male you? that de-values both of you, newbie mistake. Divide and conquer (Sun Tzu) is a good strategy, you and him are supposed to be a team, not adversaries, do not divide the Team and become weaker from the inside.
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:08 PM
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I have a boyfriend Oh that's nice, Does he treat you well? She nods I lean over and whisper into her ear, I wouldn't PRICELESS
/r/seduction29/05/12 09:02 PM
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Perfect: no pressure on taking the pic continue the conversation for conversation sake create mystery: Hey, I have to get going... originality in the closing : this shouldn't be the last time we see each other... have her invested by entering her own phone # There's an article in this forum on how to go from #-close to date, and it suggests to text right away mentioning something funny that happened, like "Nice meeting you, I knew there was a reason why the parade made me late for work this morn…
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:54 PM
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Excellent reply. This is what I would do, next time you are there, take a napkin and write on it your phone number, makes sure she sees you doing it (don't do it before because make it appears as if it's just in the flow, and not rehearsed). Place your order, and then say "Hi my name is ____, I'd like to see you and talk, give me a call". And then leave
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:49 PM
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Challenge: say something like I'd love for you to 'cook' me a meal (emphasis the 'cook' part somehow), but like you said, I am too young for you If she insists, just go for it, and say something If you insist, OK Make sure you have plenty of wine, ask her what she likes, red or white, or type/brand of beers, liquor etc. Once she arrives say that you are going to 'cook together', emphasis on the 'cook together' with a great smile, put on some loud music, and drink as you are cooking. Escalate, wh…
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:41 PM
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Hindsight is 20/20 indeed. Somewhere in the Basics/FAQ there's an article on how to go from #-close to first date (I could not find the link...) and it says something that I agree with: no messaging back and forth before f-close, keep the mystery alive From personal experience I have a rule: no kino, no k-close. So since the cold didn't allow you to escalate to kino, while you should have move the date to a more suitable place Hey, how about going for something warm at Starbucks? or at least the…
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:32 PM
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We are talking about social conversation here, not about philosophical discussions. Here's something that I learned a long time ago, and something that YOU yourself can observe in the field: the more people talk, the more they feel that the other person is a good conversationalist. Let me repeat that, the more they talk, the more they think that you are a great conversationalist. Even more so with women, even more so with women that you don't know, or that you don't know very well. So, your best…
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:24 PM
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You'll never find the moment. You need to create the moment. Don't despair, that's what this community is for, brush up on the basics, keep on going out there, talk talk talk, escalate escalate escalate. It's like learning to ride a bike, you're going to get bruised, but once you learn how to ride the bike.... ;-)
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:15 PM
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Night game? Day game? It's all game, do it at night, it's night game, do it daytime, it's day game. Breathe!
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:13 PM
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If the compliment is sincere and deserved, thank her like a man. If she's patronizing you, laugh, and joke with her by paying a blatantly exaggerated compliment.
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:10 PM
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When your libido on a scale 1 to 10 is 12 or more, it will make your mind blind, and your brain mush; so DO IT. Otherwise, with time, learn to channel that energy into being fun, and bigger then life.
/r/seduction29/05/12 08:08 PM
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According to your FR the first time you were both drunk, while the second time she was sober. We can only speculate here, one such speculations is that she wants to transform the ONS into a relationship, so she's testing you. Another such speculation is that she's playing herself, she feels slutty about the ONS, so if the two of you go on a few dates, she can always dump you and tell herself that you dated, and it didn't work out, and it was not a ONS. Who knows! If you like her, backtrack a lit…
/r/seduction29/05/12 07:59 PM
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I guess it's a question of preferences and character. Personally I am not keen on dancing venues as a way to meet new women. On the same subject, daygame works best for me.
/r/seduction29/05/12 07:50 PM
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I agree. They say that it's the guys who cheat, but then the math proves that since a guy needs a girl to cheat, it's both girls AND guys who cheat. There's a scene in Californication where Hank Moody says that as soon as a woman meet a guy, she puts him in one of 3 categories: Marry him, fuck him, or kill him. While it's funny, it is somewhat true. In this time and age, girls like to fuck as much as we guys do, maybe more. However they need to be careful not to labeled as whores, just like we d…
/r/seduction29/05/12 05:41 PM
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Just like life itself, think of it as a process, not a destination. It's not about picking up a girl, or generally picking up girls. It's about having the best life, enjoying who you are, in all of its facets. Your looks dont make you who you are, or what you have to offer in life. So the 'FUCK IT!' mantra when started dating is not sufficient, get it out of your mind completely, at all times Body: think healthy body. And that too it's a process, that it's forever. Once I read an article about M…
/r/seduction29/05/12 04:31 PM
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Good question, to some degree this is something that we all struggle with at different levels, at different degree. For one, practice practice practice practice. The more you go out of your comfort zone, the more you create an habit out of it. Recognize that it's only a habit, and a habit that you no longer want or enjoy. There's only one way to get rid of a habit: replace it with a better habit, so back to the beginning, practice practice practice practice Let's be realistic: there are, and the…
/r/seduction29/05/12 04:16 PM
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Perfect opportunity to practice practice practice your social skills. You have no pressure, since you are already on a date. You already have social validations, since your date brought you there. So, go talk with everyone, guys and girls, young and old, ugly and beautiful; and make each one of them your ally, each one of them increases and compounds your social value. Go, tiger!
/r/seduction29/05/12 03:00 PM
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IMO dancing is the wrong place for approaching women, for too many reasons: can't really hold a conversations state of mind: when a woman is dancing, most of the time she just want to dance state of mind (I read this somewhere): often time a woman is fulfilled when a lot of guys pay attention to her (read: try to pick her up, dance with her, buy her drinks etc....), so usually at a dance venue, when she's dancing, she gets all her needs fulfilled that way, and she doesn't need anything else, not…
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:54 PM
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What if you reverse the game, instead of picking up girls, you work on be attractive, the most attractive male in your small town. If the town is that small, you must have little competition as well. And let the women come to you, not really literally, but giving you the signals that they are ready for the picking. Turn negatives into positives, once you hookup with someone, just tell her that being a small town, you should keep things discreet at least at the beginning, this way you don't get t…
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:50 PM
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Back to the basics, check out How I go from number to first date http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ecmm8/how_i_go_from_number_to_first_date/
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:45 PM
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Check out How I go from number to first date at http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ecmm8/how_i_go_from_number_to_first_date/
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:44 PM
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Who knows why? Who cares? Maybe she's just a nut job, and you should consider yourself lucky that she's out of your life. So, here you are, great place to start strengthening your social skills, start from the beginning (http://redd.it/ero8h), hand out, go out there and life your life. This life is the only one you have, don't waste it with nut jobs.
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:43 PM
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Hello homo-insurgo, that is quite an interesting and thorough analysis that you've got there. Let me tear it apart: My experience: like you I used to think that I was ugly, then one day I have one of those FUCK IT! moments, and decided not to worry about it at all. Guess what, ever since a lot of women have told me that I am good looking. Go figure. One thing that would help you, and any other guy on this board, to have at least a decent body, better if you are ripped. /r/fitness can help you wi…
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:40 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly, that is NOT what I want, or what any guy would want. I know a far amount of former prom queens who have married former nerds and became trophy wives, after a few years it becomes a NIGHTMARE, especially for the wives. Personally I find it very peculiar, and in a way very funny, to observe the discrepancy between what women say they want, and then the choices that they make; and what women say they want, is strongly reinforced by many romantic movies, and many women blogge…
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:34 PM
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She added you on Facebook, you HAD to test the water so to speak. Maybe she was giving you shit, maybe she's just nuts, maybe she was testing the water herself. Just let it be as is, maybe something will develop, maybe no. Worst case scenario it gives you social proof that you have friends who are girls.
/r/seduction29/05/12 02:15 AM
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You can love someone, but if you find yourself cheating on them, it's not the deep true love, the one and only. If you are casual dating, you are casual dating, therefore dating multiple people is very OK. Once you get the talk about being exclusive, then it's another story, and if you don't feel like being exclusive, just say so, and then either break up or continue in a non-exclusive relationship.
/r/seduction28/05/12 06:24 PM
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Forget about girls! Where do you find yourself? Your social self? Seduction is about confidence, confidence that you are living your own life on your own term, and that has tremendous attraction value for anyone. Once you live your own life, and interact with like-minded people, you can be selective on who's your friend (male and female), and who you are going to be intimate with, for how long, and how often. Girls are people, and people are everywhere, school, work, places where you go to enter…
/r/seduction27/05/12 04:54 PM
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Read the book No More Mr Nice Guy, don't worry, you won't become a jerk, but the book will make you look at life, yourself, and women under a different light.
/r/seduction27/05/12 02:13 PM
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Let's be realistic: the majority of people out there are boring. Seduction at its core, it's about becoming an interesting person, first for your own sake, and then to enjoy life at its best, including attentions from the ladies. As you master being an interesting person, you will become part of that 1% of people who live their life to its fullest, so don't look at what the majority of people do and say, seek out those special individuals who match your personality and philosophy in life, and th…
/r/seduction27/05/12 02:11 PM
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I concur with the other people on this board: don't worry! BTW, I am 6'4". My experience is that a lot of tall guys like petite women, I don't know what it is. Luckily women in general like tall guys, especially petite women. Personally women taller than 5'5" don't do anything for me, and I like them skinny, preferably "strong". http://fitnessandfeta.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/strong-is-the-new-skinny.jpg?w=500
/r/seduction27/05/12 02:06 PM
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About texting: This is something that I picked up from a book on dating geared toward women or an article or something like that. If she waits 15 minutes, you wait 30 minutes or longer. If she waits 1 full hour before texting you back, you wait 2 hours. If she waits one day, you wait 2 days. Once a woman waited 1 week to reply to an email, I waited 2 week before replying back, and when we finally got together was an F-close on first date. Don't take my word for it, try it for yourself but I can …
/r/seduction27/05/12 03:29 AM
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Play a different game: stop reading stuff, and start practicing. Day game is a great opportunity. A game you can play with yourself is something like "eating lunch only after 10 # close"
/r/seduction26/05/12 03:41 AM
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"Well, we're friends, we might as well enjoy the benefits, all of the benefits"
/r/seduction25/05/12 05:03 PM
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This is too good not to borrow it. I actually once used something along the same lines, I have a pair of superman underwear, and on a first date I told her that I was wearing my lucky underwear, my superman underwear, and if she behaved, she'll get to see them later in the night. Later in the night I asked her "so, show me your underwear". "Show me yours first she replied" I stood up infront of her, pull down my pants, only to reveal my Superman underwear.. fellatio soon ensued, and that was jus…
/r/seduction25/05/12 05:02 PM
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Let me see: you are not living in close proximity she is not telling anyone about you you are not having sex she's going out on dates Tell me again, how do you define this a relationship? She's either delusional, or you are both delusional, or she's playing you, or she's trying to let you down easily. At best you are in a forced break, so, enjoy your freedom, once the two of you are back physically in close geographic proximity see what develops. Till then, enjoy life.
/r/seduction25/05/12 04:52 PM
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antique-ing...she and I both love antique stores etc WTF dude! Are you gay or something? Forget about all the crap that you see in romantic movies, forget about what women say they want in a guy, forget about what women's magazines say about the ideal mate, a guy who love antique-ing is not MAN-ly enough for a woman to consider being fucked by, but it makes a great "friend", you know, a girlfriend with a penis. DUH! Read No More Mr Nice Guy and also Daniel Rose's Sex God Method. I think you are …
/r/seduction25/05/12 04:48 PM
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Without knowing the particulars and details of both of your personalities and your relationship, I have a couple of suggestions: some women are really immature, or they are themselves players, so your expectations are not met by her behavior. If this is the case there's not much you can do Recently I've read Daniel Rose's Sex God Method and according to him the only way to keep a woman is by .. being a Sex God according to his method. I don't know if he's right or wrong, chances are that he's on…
/r/seduction25/05/12 04:11 PM
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I hear you bro. Just meet with her, and tell her how it is, say something like *This is no longer working for me, I really like you, but I feel as if you want more from this, and it's something that I cannot give you. So we'll be better off ending it, so that you can concentrate on finding what you are looking for. Sure we can remain friends, but in order to be fair to everyone we cannot hang out as often as we used to. * The way I look at it, having a pool of ex's who might need some sex here a…
/r/seduction25/05/12 04:01 PM
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Make up a good story, you broke your arms doing something extreme like Tough Mudder, make it very descriptive, say that at the beginning you got yourself into a pit and this fatso guy fell on your wrist as you were helping him out.. or something like that, it hurt like crazy but you had been waiting for this for months, so you finished it anyway only to find out after the race that you had a broken arm or something. Of course the BEST way is to actually become that guy who does Tough Mudder or s…
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:45 PM
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European girls are not the same as American girls, especially when they are within their own territory. Having said that, there are a couple of exceptions: other tourists: look up the guides and figure out where young tourists, especially American tourists hang out. Not that easy, since a lot of American girls go to Europe for the locals, not for the boys that they've had around their entire life. Local who love everything America. There are some, just hang out, they will spot you. The problem w…
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:39 PM
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This is the problem: only players and losers go to bars alone. So, even if the question Why are you here alone doesn't come up, you need to be prepared to come up with a good story, and reality is the best story. So, once you are in New York, you can always tell the truth, you are here in Business, and wanted to check out the nightlife, but none of your friends had your stamina and they are all in bed sleeping after a long dy of work, or something to that effect, it establishes you some social v…
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:36 PM
3

Maybe the sex was not good enough? Read Daniel Rose's Sex God Method
/r/seduction25/05/12 02:04 PM
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. I have a similar story, like you I WAS (past tense) a Nice Guy, especially in high school, when I was most of the girls' friend but not boyfriend material; and often these girls would come and cry on my shoulders about their jerky boyfriends saying stuff like "why can't I find a nice guy like you" but then if I were to make my move I would be rejected with a variety of escuses from "we're friends.." to ... whatever. I was a Nice Guy for a very long time, then one…
/r/seduction25/05/12 02:01 PM
1

Sure you can look at "the game" as a series of tools geared toward getting ...... seduction of women. BUT I have a different frame of mind, that is shared by some of the people in here as well, the seduction community is about becoming better person all around, so that people will have a better experience of you, and you in return will have a better experience of life. Attracting women is only a byproduct. I know it's a long-ish process, sure one can start by getting some action, but that gets o…
/r/seduction25/05/12 01:31 PM
8

She's a waitress, which means she's used to be hit on by mostly shallow people. Pull a different spin on her, tell her something to the effect: There's this cute waitress that I am interested on, but I am sure she get hit on all the times, what can I tell her to let her know that I am truly interested in her? Then, let's say she tell you to ask your friend what type of music she likes, and what she likes to do on her day off; turn around and tell her: I have a couple of things to ask you: what t…
/r/seduction25/05/12 04:11 AM
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Put yourself in her shoes: she likes you, she's horny, and she'd like to hook up with you, so she suggested the getting together at her place, so unless something goes wrong between you arriving there and the two of you getting naked for some horizontal mambo, it's a done deal. Which, in a way, it's the same expectation that you have, you show up at her place, and unless something goes wring (e.g.: you realize she's a psycho axe murderer or something like that) it's a done deal. Therefore the on…
/r/seduction25/05/12 04:05 AM
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Interesting dilemma. Well, for one it's not a bad problem to have, in your word you have the seduction thing going on for you, without much effort. The way I look at it, attraction is nothing more than seduction protracted in time. Could it be that you've mastered the tools and skills learned in /r/seduction but they are not ingrained in you yet? IMO the whole PUA/Seduction philosophy is about becoming a better man, a more confident man, and give people, male & females, a better experience of ou…
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:47 AM
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Clearly the present situation is not for you, you are not confortable with it. And I would not be confortable with it either. IMO women put guys into one of two categories: the providers or the lovers. I prefer to be the lover then the provider, even if "provider" of stability and / or affection. I want to be the wild man that seduces her, fucks her nasty, and leaves her wanting more. I don't want to be the guys she goes to after a wild night of sex with me to be held all night, and talk, and ha…
/r/seduction24/05/12 08:30 PM
58

A couple of responses that I use We're just talking.... unless you're thinking ahead I am not jealous
/r/seduction24/05/12 08:20 PM
1

how do you deal with people who interrupt you?: IGNORE THEM how do you improve your storytelling?: PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE what are some good stories to tell when in the company of hot babes AND other males?: TRUE STORIES ARE THE BEST ONES, PRACTICE TO MAKE GOOD STORIES BETTER.. pause for emphasis.... engage the audience "guess what happened next" ... keep the audience small (4 or less).... live an interesting life, write your own stories
/r/seduction24/05/12 05:53 PM
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"I have a surprise for you... well, for the both of us. Lets' go to my place". You should always offer your place; and make sure that wherever you are is convenient to your place. If somehow the date is near her place, just bring a small present (small chocolate, sexy underwear, wine bottle, DVD, CD, etc..) and tell her that you have a surprise for her but it must be uncovered in private "your place or mine?" PLAN PLAN PLAN PLAN, women like a "man with a plan"
/r/seduction24/05/12 05:51 PM
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AGE: don't mention. If it comes out say that she looks 23-24, and that your previous girlfriend was 28 and age was never an issue Model are insecure (they do live in a world where looks is everything) and actresses are very much in touch with their emotions (that's the secret to acting), just downplay the model/acting, they get those questions all the time, and it's not that big deal for them; ask them questions about themselves about who they truly are, make a deep personal connection.
/r/seduction24/05/12 05:43 PM
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She's dumb! She was trying to "play" you, to get you to be more interested in her, and it didn't work out, so she did what every little girl would do: start crying (figuratively speaking, or literally speaking). Her problem, not yours.
/r/seduction23/05/12 01:44 PM
1

Very good post. I agree with both the Social Proof (External Game) and the FWB (Internal Game). Personally I have a long standing platonic only relationship with a very popular HB10, which gives me a lot of social proof. Then up until recently I had a FWB which - in the words of I_F-close_OKC - gave me supermario's star powers. It also gave me relaxation ;-) I always try to have a long pipeline of sets, I am not interested in F-close; sure I will take it if it happens, but it would screw up my p…
/r/seduction22/05/12 10:37 PM
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Let me guess? You're in college. Let me guess something else, you felt exactly the same way in high school. Uhmm let's see, let's try to predict the future: it's going to be the same once you finish college and you are out there in the world working and stuff. YES indeed once you finally get the balls to start approaching women or friends, you are going to make mistakes, nobody is perfect and has 100% success score, but that's not failure, there are only 2 types of failures: Failure to Launch (t…
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:34 PM
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Reverse the situation. Whenever someone text you or emails you, wait 1 hour or double as long as it took her to reply to you before responding back. Let's say you text her something, she replies right away: you wait 1 hour. Let''s say she responds after one day, you wait 2 days. Once a girl replied to my email after 1 week. I waited 2 weeks before replying back. After a while she started responding right away, and I did an f-close once we finally got together. You are always busy, and you make t…
/r/seduction16/03/12 02:52 AM
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Confuse her. For one ask her some BS advice about another woman you are seeing, ask her her opinion about a present, or a good date place/activity. Then once in a while do let her know that you find her attractive, and that she's such a great friend. If she's hot, she'll give you "social validation" other hot women will come to you. I have a platinic friend like that, she's a solid 9.5, she could be a supermodel but she's only 5'5", she turns heads, literally, and when she enters a room, everyon…
/r/seduction16/03/12 02:22 AM
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[read aloud every morning as soon as you wake up, and every night before going to bed. More often if necessary] STOP GIVING A FUCK I don't want or need any validation. I don't want to compare myself to other people. I only control my actions, the rest doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks of me. I am internally validated, and my self esteem is impregnable. I am a man of authentic self-esteem. I am no better than anyone else. I know that others' thoughts only affect themselves. I…
/r/seduction09/03/12 05:08 PM
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I've had the same issue at times, and I have changed my strategy to dating only 2 women (max 3) and maintaining a slow pipeline. One woman is always my SO, the second one is the FWB who knows about the SO. The eventual 3rd is when someone accelerates the pipeline and I have not yet parted ways with one of the two. I keep the women in the pipeline in limbo by showing my interest, but treating them as if I friendzoned them, the big advantage is that it gives me social validation without being seen…
/r/seduction08/03/12 06:46 PM
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There's playfull and there's adversarial. The moment that she says "I'm not that kind of girl" something went wrong, maybe it's you, maybe it's her. Once the context gets adversarial it's hard to recover from it. If that happens to you frequently, re-visit your approach, maybe you're too aggressive and let your game transpire.
/r/seduction01/03/12 06:07 PM
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They are probably looking for a safe Mr Nice guy, if not worse (like a meal ticket). There's a book "No more Mr Nice Guy", take a look, it might change your life and get you ready for PUA.
/r/seduction29/02/12 03:09 AM
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