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RED FLAG 🚨FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 12:44 AM
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REMINDER 👑FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 03:03 PM
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LIES MEN TELLFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 12:22 AM
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#YouKnowWhattoDo2022FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/22 10:58 PM
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DISCUSSIONFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 02:43 AM
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MINDSET SHIFTFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/08/21 04:24 PM
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PICKME CULTUREFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/05/21 03:31 AM
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CULTURAL MISOGYNYFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 10:57 PM
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MALE DEPRAVITYFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/20 03:28 PM
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#JustLVMThingsFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 02:14 PM
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MALE DEPRAVITYFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/22 08:29 PM
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MOOD FOR LIFEFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/22 06:12 PM
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FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/20 10:20 PM
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MALE DEPRAVITYFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 05:48 AM
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LEVEL UP BRO! FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 04:44 AM
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MALE DEPRAVITYFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/22 06:08 PM
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TRIGGER WARNINGFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/22 06:49 PM
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STRATEGYFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/20 10:12 PM
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NOTHING BUT FACTSFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 06:34 PM
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PICKME CULTUREFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 03:23 AM
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CULTURAL MISOGYNYFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/20 04:32 AM
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FDS HUMORFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/20 03:20 AM
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FluffandRainclouds/r/askFDS26/12/20 06:45 AM
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LIES MEN TELLFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/04/20 07:40 PM
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MOOD FOR LIFEFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 04:10 PM
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MALE DEPRAVITYFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/22 05:44 PM
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FDS ANTHEM 🎶FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/04/22 07:05 PM
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STAY WOKEFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/21 01:27 AM
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DUMP HIS ASSFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/02/20 03:35 PM
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#KickHimOut2020FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/20 05:36 AM
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QUEEN SH*TFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/01/20 03:20 AM
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SEEKING ADVICEFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 12:19 AM
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LESSON LEARNEDFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/07/20 09:50 PM
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DISCUSSIONFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/19 03:47 PM
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SEEKING ADVICEFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/20 05:21 AM
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SEEKING ADVICEFluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/19 03:33 AM
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FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 11:06 PM
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FluffandRainclouds/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/19 02:56 PM
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FluffandRainclouds/r/askFDS19/12/20 02:05 PM
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Exactly! "Living well is the best revenge" is cliche but so true
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/04/22 10:42 PM
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Remember ladies, it is NOT a compliment if a man crawls back to you, or mistreats/ghosts you then says "hey" like nothing happened. There is no "reset" button, and you do not have to pretend there is. A man's loneliness is not your problem. Choose your behavior, choose your consequences. Block and delete is peace ✌️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/04/22 07:07 PM
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It's to shame you into dropping your standards and staying with the guy. It's crazy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/22 03:48 AM
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Thank you!! This shit is exactly what happened to me with peers, with advice columns, with internet forums, with "neutral" parties when it came to things I was uncomfortable with, like porn. "He gets to have a different opinion" and other things defensive of the man du jour making me miserable, so I accepted it with resignation when I was a pickme. If I had left at the first red flag or threat, I would have never dealt with the exponential betrayals of what seemed like modern society at large ag…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/22 03:47 AM
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Ouch. That hit deep. For me it wasn't so much that I was especially unlovable, I thought it was "the times" and that other women had to go through it too to get a boyfriend. :/ not to the extent of the woman in the OP, but similar mindset.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/22 03:42 AM
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Great post, except multi-dating is a part of getting to know people. A HVM will understand if you are going on dinner dates with other men, and seek to beat the competition. If he wanted to, he would.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/04/22 02:14 AM
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I am so sorry. That is horrible. I hope you are safe and healing 💜
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/04/22 02:11 AM
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Yes. One exception is sometimes these reports may put you in danger, depending on the situation (like the restraining order). If you do proceed with a RO, please speak with a specialist in DV/IPV to figure out a safety plan (in case he escalates) and the pros and cons of a RO.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/04/22 09:17 PM
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Yes, we are brainwashed to see them as an asset, when so many literally add negative value to our lives. No thanks
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/04/22 09:13 PM
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They expect a medal for talking about an emotion, and use this "talent you should feel GrAtEfUl about" to mentally abuse us further
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/04/22 09:11 PM
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Yes, pickmes are 100% naive to how much these types of men despise women, no matter what we do. If I knew this before my pickme phase, I would have never been a pickme. I thought my sacrifice and 12/10 efforts would earn respect and love. lol No
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/22 04:34 AM
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Agreed, and same here. It really is insidious.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/22 04:31 AM
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I have some questions: When did the ick start? I wonder if there was a sign of something before the wedding talk? Is he from the same culture (to assess how much he *knows" a big wedding is important in your culture) What does the idea of him picking out the ring mean to you? What trait would it signify? Does he show this trait in other ways? How long has he been courting you?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/22 03:49 AM
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At least when you are gathering your things together to leave, he won't notice because he's on the damn game. I'm sorry you had to go through everything with him and your family. I hope you reach your goal of leaving as safely and swiftly as possible 🙏
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/22 03:38 AM
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Their logic is like a child potty training 😂 "But I like my diaper! Yes it gives me a rash if I sit in it too long, but you're expecting too much! Idc if it will benefit me to do this thing. MUH INDEPENDENCE!" Also, I think our opinions get discounted from these men because we are women. This stuff can be because of buried misogyny IMO. I suspect men with this sick mindset often lacked a strong male role model or had an actual controlling/coddling mummy
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/22 03:24 AM
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Idk why but this made me think of the (fictional) bit on the FDS podcast where a woman visits a man in jail and he says to her, straightfaced, "don't waste my time." 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/22 03:12 AM
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That is so sad and gross 😩 I was worried he was going to hug you too hard (because some of them like going that route too 🙄). This shit reeks of contempt and makes you feel like a burden IMO
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/22 03:05 AM
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I'm sorry you went through this. Passive and passive-aggressive/bumbler/duper's delight men can be the worst 😩
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/22 03:00 AM
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I love how you wrote this essential concept to FDS. This is why CoMmUnIcAtE is 99/100 not a good solution. It's is 100% true women are often called "controlling" for requesting something, yet it is "ok' for a man to do something behind a woman's back if he thinks it's unreasonable. I don't want to pretend men have to be trained like children to have good manners and morals. And a lot of us have been trained to believe we "inspire" men to be good if we are "special enough," or we will be resigned…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/22 02:58 AM
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I absolutely agree. This was literally most of my relationships. This kept happening to me over and over and it really f#cked with my head, because I thought I was the problem and I wasn't as sweet or kind as I thought. I was never charming in the smarmy way, but thought I was earnest and genuine. But when I started hearing bad things about the things that made me who I am, by different men, I started to think maybe I was just annoying to be around. I had all these platonic people saying nice th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/22 02:52 AM
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"Peewee power trip" 💀
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/22 12:33 AM
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They do it because they are misogynists with small pp energy. They want to discount every opinion, every bit of knowledge you have, regardless of how valid or true it is. They make it a sick game and often get a sickening smug smirk when they see your face fall from exhaustion and confusion. They aren't worth it. When a man shows any HINT of this, do not engage, block and delete. This is the kind of man who will "debate" pads vs tampons (as of he is the "expert," natural versus c-section, birth …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/22 12:29 AM
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"Threatens harm or violence at someone else" = the report this post received. Apparently a civil cultural commentary about women not having to receive validation from a man (to be worthy of love) is....literal violence! A prime example of Reddit, everyone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/22 05:27 AM
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This is an amazing topic, thank you. Social supports absolutely matter when healing 💕
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 11:03 PM
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☝️☝️☝️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 10:44 PM
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Yes, they literally have created their own problems thanks to their porn addiction.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 10:43 PM
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Slap her WHAT now? 😳 I just don't understand the appeal. He sounds like he has no job or hobbies, and he bases his life on sex trafficking/abuse aka porn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 10:35 PM
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Yes, most men I dated criticized things about my personality that were actually good according to traditional cultural norms, friends, family, strangers, etc. I noticed my girl friends never did this to me, but I remember thinking I was the problem because men kept doing it to me. To them, I was too feminine, too chatty, too sociable, too happy, not happy enough, liked the "wrong" things, etc. Or maybe it was OK for them to have certain hobbies, but not for me to like those hobbies too. Or maybe…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 09:31 PM
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"Monk-like monogamy" Ah yes folks, our society has plunged the depths to a new low, in which monogamy may as well be full-on sexual abstinence /s. Apparently monogamy is so "bad, boring, and vanilla," you are the same as someone who has sworn to celibacy. 🙄 Pornsick scrotes act like they "need" a flavor of depravity or taboo, such as prostitution, endless novelty, incest, sadism, exploitation, slavery, people/living creatures who can't consent, etc. This particular scrote sounds like he definite…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 09:16 PM
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"Maybe it's not that I'm too much. Maybe you're just not enough." 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 09:02 PM
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Agreed, to them it seems like they are coming back to a drive thru. "Is the special edition sauce back yet??" It's not a compliment!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 02:59 AM
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I came here for the rightful savagery of this comment, and stayed for the "mister pissypants for attention." 💀💀💀 This story is beyond sick. I hope it is just a madeup story
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 02:44 AM
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Sex strike is the answer 😆
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/22 07:27 PM
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I have no words for the depravity. The poor little girl Thank goodness you got away from him
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/22 05:26 PM
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"Failing to stroke male ego and validate their life choices is literal violence and Not True Feminism (TM)! Yeah we women deal with fear of assault, psychological/mental war on women, being underpaid, and having our intelligence underestimated, but men hurt just as bad when women see them as walking wallets :''''''( "
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/22 05:21 PM
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They have evidence in plain sight and literally gaslight us out of our protective instincts. I am sick of it
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/22 05:17 PM
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I relate so much. Hugs if you want them. ❤ It gets better over time, especially when you are with people who "get it," I promise! I think it can be freeing or really saddening at first if you are only months in this journey. I seriously consider FDS to be a way of life like a 12-step program. Coming here to read almost daily helped (but did not cure) those negative feelings and sentiments you describe. I allowed myself time to realize how much I drifted away from everything. My values, my self-w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/22 05:48 AM
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And yet we are the hateful, "toxic" sub. I really hope women of the world wake up and see what is literally unfolding before our eyes. Sometimes I fantasize about a global sex strike until something is done about this
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/22 05:14 AM
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Same. Thank you and also to everyone here for cultivating this community and spreading love for women. Uplifting messages for our fellow sisters = the best flex💪 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/22 06:15 AM
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I suppose not. I wondered why you were being down voted; I was so confused!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/22 03:42 AM
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This is literally a case of men with main character syndrome. Apparently when I have a disease, the most important thing isn't resolving the pain, it's how much my pain affects the main protagonist of the story 🙄🙄🙄🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/22 03:12 AM
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Are you talking about the women with endo or their male partners being snowflakes?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/22 03:05 AM
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It's insane, feminine pains can be so intense and feel like literal stabbing (Endometriosis, cysts, etc) but we're just FaKiNg apparently or crying to manipulate people 🙄 Can't women pass out from endo pain, IIRC?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/22 03:03 AM
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Exactly. Women keep getting blamed for "the men they choose," but what tf are we supposed to do when we are primed to be lambs for the slaughter, and the vast majority are conditioned and rewarded for abuse? We are told to "choose better" then scolded for being too choosy. FDS literally saved my life. I'm sure of it. Exhibit A: the porn industry, with men' dehumanizing psychological violence of objectification and women's self-objectification, starting with nude mags. It has gotten unbelievably …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/22 02:45 AM
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If it feels off, it's off. I've been there.
/r/askFDS30/03/22 01:59 PM
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YES!! Don't forget the men want us to have abs and "natural-looking" breast implants and BBL. But we have to lie about the BBL and just say we got it at the gym 🙄 but if our butts are too muscular, that is also "bad" because blablablah You seriously cannot win with these men. Even in my best shape I never was, never looked athletic. I am just not built for it and they can die mad
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 04:10 AM
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I'm sorry you went through that 😔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:58 AM
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Would you be open to writing tips for an online profile? Tbf, I don't think my profile was ever the issue with the men I attracted on OLD, but a lot of ladies here still use OLD.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:57 AM
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It's so gross. You would think they would be excited to meet someone in person they like. Maybe they waste our time and they don't like us. Either way they are not worth the time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:53 AM
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Thank you for saying this. This story has the example of what I would call a "malignant" pickme (pickme to the point of directly hurting other women). But even if the "female best friend" is completely uninterested, a lesbian, etc, there are so many cases when the man had a weird idealized fantasy about the female friend IMO. When this happens, no girlfriend gets the LVM's respect and admiration like the female friend 🙄. Worse is when the female friend is a pickme, and does not want to date the …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:48 AM
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Well-said. It makes sense, like the saying "taking away privilege feels like taking a right from the privileged" (paraphrased). They project so hard. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:35 AM
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yes, it's like how asking for basic respect and politeness doesn't work. if he wants to give it, he will. If he doesn't, he won't. Nobody should ever have to ask for the bare minimum-- if you feel the need to ask, he isn't worth it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:31 AM
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Yes, I learned this the hard way. He can pick up his phone and text back. If he wanted to, he would. 48 hours is incredibly generous for someone who is supposedly into you and excited to hear from you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:28 AM
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Texts are so low-effort, too. If a man likes a woman, he should be excited about talking to her and want to talk to her. Texts barely mean a thing. So if he can't even be arsed to text or call, he is not interested nor worth being interested in.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:26 AM
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Me too! OP did a great job showing why FDS works. It isn't always a smooth start, but it gets easier in time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:24 AM
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💯 they need to plan a specific place and time days in advance. I know from experience the LV/NV ones will be last minute, leave it vague, or make you plan. No thank you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/22 03:23 AM
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Sadly even male and female family members will take an abusers side out of misogyny/wanting so badly to believe a female survivor is "crazy" over believing a man is an abuser. "He's so nice, why are you acting so crazy around him?". It doesn't help when the survivor cannot verbalize what is happening but knows something is "off." So she looks "bitchy" to her whole family 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/03/22 02:14 AM
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I like how she talked about platonic vs romantic attraction, as women are often expected to settle for anyone they think they can tolerate (or try to force themselves to feel love)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/03/22 11:48 PM
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Most of the things we read about on Reddit from men who did their partner wrong commit dealbreaker-level things, let alone cheating. I think the same logic applies for sure-- it's not worth even seeing if he is willing to improve, because it wouldn't happen in the first place if he truly respected you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/03/22 10:11 PM
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Exactly, it is absolutely sick and neckbeardy. Another problem is people are told these false narratives over and over, which makes them more apt to believe them ☹️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/03/22 06:58 PM
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Wtf, I can smell it from here 🤮 I never liked the term "daddy" period and was so confused as to why it became mainstream. So gross
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/03/22 04:17 PM
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He also needs to stop missing the toilet when he pees, but Mummy will just avoid scolding him for that on the days he doesn't cheat 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/03/22 04:15 PM
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Honestly, it feeds the ego of the cheater more than anything. I think these types of men like us to act subservient to play out their narcissistic delusions, and encourage us to do it with all the men who hurt us. Patriarchy is a hell of a drug
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/03/22 04:13 PM
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YES! Being ruthless and willing to protect yourself is freedom 💙
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/03/22 04:10 PM
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There's a huge difference between manipulation and self-protection. It's always advised for people leaving abusive relationships to be discreet (cheating is a form of abuse). Reddit likes to pretend women get justice when they lay their cards on the table, but it just opens them to more abuse. Reddit also considers it akin to "cheating" when a woman does the following: snoops on her man's phone, doesn't disclose ALL her past sexual partners to him, and doesn't work overtime to soothe her "retroa…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/03/22 04:08 PM
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We like hot men, as part of being overall HV. Die mad 😘
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/22 11:09 PM
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He had "classy" nudes and promoted old Hollywood "romance!" Bull . People forget they branched out into more explicit content later on for TV
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/22 04:13 PM
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B-but who is going to defend the "troubled/flawed/antihero" men? 🥺 You must brand him as a complicated yet simple genius posthumously or else you are a literal bigot. Everyone knows women make choices to do sex work in a vacuum and it definitely isn't from past trauma, coercion, or pick-me culture! /s /s /s
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/22 04:10 PM
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On the Imgur, the commenters are justifying gross p0rn titles🤢 "oh that's normal even though they are gross" and "fret about children's welfare, not porn titles." Sis?? These things are not mutually exclusive We have a huge problem with our culture right now. Disgusting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/22 04:05 PM
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HE KNOWS SIS 😥 In the words of hedonism bot, take ZERO shit 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/22 06:32 AM
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Wtf!! Words fail me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/22 05:30 AM
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I say this with love: check out the handbook. You are worthy of feeling good about yourself independent of what a man thinks. These behaviors you describe are IMO unacceptable in a man you choose to let in your life. If you live together and/or you feel any danger, I strongly suggest loveisrespect.org or another DV service to walk you through how to escape quietly (ducks in a row, don't tell him you're going). I think it takes a lot of dulling of intuition, which is exhausting, to let things lik…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/22 03:58 PM
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"Trying is not the same as doing' = "misandryyyyy!' 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/22 05:46 AM
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I love when the queens post (often): if women were so weak, why would men constantly oppress us? We are incredibly strong, and the patriarchy "needs" a rigged game for its perpetrators
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/22 05:45 AM
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They created a bit about it on Rick and Morty. Too bad some people use the joke as an excuse to act like children, not as an actual "this is terrible" joke.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/22 03:20 AM
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I'm sorry sis. 😞Are you still with him?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 10:02 PM
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Mooching men are so gross 🤢 but even though I didn't grow up with men like this, I was pushed by a lot of pickmes to date and accept underachieving men because "well you're not perfect either" and "he has a sparkling personality!" Also a lot of underachieving men will claim they have plans to "improve," but surprise, it never happened for me
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 07:32 PM
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Marked NFSW for TW. Stay woke out there, trafficking is real.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 07:19 PM
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It's the double standard. Women doing 1/4 of something "wrong" (real or imagined) are viewed as "worse" than men who do a whole thing wrong. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 06:58 PM
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Wait, wait, wait. People don't understand the plight of able-bodied, unemployed, misogynistic men ("with a deGrEe")? That's literally genocide, eugenics,misandry, Hitler, closedmindedness, culturally uninformed, and unscientific. They are the ultimate protected class, and your lack of cultural relevance is showing, privileged one. /s /s /s
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 06:55 PM
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Goodness, you know it's forbidden to call out unemployed/underemployed able-bodied men (who also happen to be misogynists)! Who does OP think she is, the queen of England? According to the PC police, she should have (checks notes) only criticized the use of "slut." But it's ok for any k]nkster or p[]rnsite to say! /all the /s
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 06:49 PM
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"Break your Heart" by Taio Cruz, aka doublestandard city. "Now listen to me baby Before I love and leave you They call me heart breaker I don't wanna deceive you" "If you fall for me I'm not easy to please I might tear you apart Told you from the start Baby, from the start" "I'm only gonna break, break your, break, break your heart (Etc)" "There's no point trying to hide it No point trying to evade it I know I got a problem Problem with misbehaving" .... "And I know karma's gonna get me back for…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 06:37 PM
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I am so sorry that happened. That is horrendous. Your gut was right. Thank you for telling us, so maybe someone in a similar situation can be helped
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/03/22 05:53 AM
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Love your username!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/03/22 05:51 AM
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When men have tried to "fix" me, it was "change your hobbies to suit mine." 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/03/22 03:24 AM
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💀 you're not wrong tho
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/03/22 05:39 AM
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Isn't it amazing how men can get so upset about our "stupid" beauty rituals like makeup and shaving, but we are literally Hitler if we say a man should floss or use a washrag to avoid poor hygiene? I understand if he has a preference for dressed up women, but is this man wearing nice crisp shirts, hair product, and using skincare? Does he even wash his ass? At the end, none of this speculation about his habits matters because he does indeed seem to "love" her for her looks. Nowhere did he say sh…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/03/22 04:31 AM
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Yes! It's a supreme unspoken double standard. Men in society seem to have respect as the default, meanwhile women seem to have to prove themselves and achieve twice as much. I remember when I first started dating I felt the pressure to "prove" I wasn't a gold digger, that I wasn't selfish, etc. Meanwhile in retrospect I realize it was a societal NLOG situation because I was fighting stereotypes created by men (e.g. written female characters in books). We were duped.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/22 01:44 PM
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Every word is spot on. Imagine if everyone truly believed these men deserved better and acted accordingly. Also true so many men equate one-sided kingly deference with respect🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/22 02:08 AM
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It's the stupid "law of attraction." LVM/NVM will shoot far out their league for anyone who has a chance of giving them attention. Some men I knew had issues going in, but I never expected them to hurt me as bad as they did. I was lying to myself because I thought I could tolerate the issues and assumed they meant well. They didn't. So don't take on that blame. You were not made to fulfill any man's wants or needs
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/22 05:32 AM
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It bothers me when people say "why did she stay with him after he did [insert depraved thing]" (especially for a non FDSer). When you teach women their worth is wrapped up in being "lovable" and "claimed by a man," This is what happens. Obviously we know better and I don't want to see any of you doing that, but it's emotionally, socially, mentally fraught and sometimes physically dangerous if he is abusive. ETA: Imo it's also a survival technique to go into this cognitive dissonance. Not a good …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/22 05:29 AM
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FDS: We don't like this [toxic thing] some of the male population does Everyone else: ["reee" frog screech] you hAtE mEn The funniest part is, the people who claim we hate men for hating certain behaviors (and appropriately judge to vet then block poor character) are unconsciously saying something sinister. They are implying LV/NV behavior is innate to men instead of learned. According to their underlying message, things like objectification, Feigned incompetence, disrespect, misogyny, antisocia…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/22 05:20 AM
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I refuse to settle, especially now that FDS opened my eyes to stark HV and LV examples . Pro-tip for the lads: Respect women period. Date a woman you actually like as a person. Don't waste her time if you aren't into her/falling in love. It shouldn't be "work" and a cheap numbers game
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/22 05:13 AM
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🥳👩‍🔧👩‍💻👩‍🎤🦸‍♀️💃🗣📣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 05:41 PM
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💯. A LVM/ZVM/NVM can and will make you sick spiritually, emotionally, physically, financially, and socially.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 05:38 PM
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Exactly! I feel like I was seen as an object in so many past relationships, not cherished or seen as a human being. Hence the anger/indifference/contempt from them if I expressed any need/human emotion other than being happy. Some of them hated when I was happy too, and would shit on what I liked then make me out to be crazy for being unhappy. It's a giant mindf from misogynists, and sadly there's a lot of them
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 05:35 PM
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Yes, and we get gaslit from other people who have "normal relationships," pickmes, "neutral" friends etc. Then you start wondering how you are so unhappy when everyone else says your guy looks like a "great guy" on paper, and they seem to be "happy" with their relationships. Some of us also get the line "respe t is earned," so we work even harder to be recognized as human beings. It's all a scam. Never again
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 05:32 PM
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Yes, it is a simple litmus test, yet there are still uninterested wishy-washy men who will pay then breadcrumb later. It's nice having techniques to weed then out faster.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 05:27 PM
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"She changed 🥺" aka matured and is no longer easier to manipulate I see this on 90 day all the time. Decade(s) long age gaps and the man (who is very immature) complains his young woman partner is doing something immature (but potentially appropriate for her age). 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 06:10 AM
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You wrote it perfectly. Women having standards, boundaries, and not dying (the post here about women being shamed for living longer, aka not dying, blew me away) is apparently being jaded and gross. Yikes. Too much misogyny to unpack for today
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 06:06 AM
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Looking forward to this episode. Question for everyone: do you think any of these men got the "ick" in their situations? I'm wondering if they had the ick and crawled back (in spite of the ick) like many women with low self-esteem? Or is the vast majority genuinely neutral toward these women and just want the mommy mcbangmaid back? (Lack of pair bonding due to porn addiction? Dehumanization by seeing the women as objects to fill the gf-shaped holes in their lives? ) Or maybe it's a case of "I do…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 06:02 AM
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Thanks, I absolutely love your username-- perfect summary of this sub 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 05:37 AM
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Ah yes, I forgot # blockanddelete . It's amazing how much FDS decreases the emotional labor put into men. I realize society has told us we can change men for so long. It's a huge fallacy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 12:19 AM
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It's absolutely understandable. Some of the stuff discussed here can be triggering too. Take care of yourself and never accept any disrespect-- you deserve it!! ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/22 05:05 AM
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Some therapists be useless for detecting this, yes. Other times, the survivor of abuse is so "normalized" to the dynamic it takes a while for them to open up, or they hide things to protect the abuser/shield themselves with denial of how bad the situation really is. It's in a way easier to blame yourself for everything, because human beings have control only over their own words/actions. Thus, the line of thinking "if all of this is my fault, I can fix it." It's sick and sometimes unconscious, b…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/22 04:43 PM
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This is literally what LVM/NVM do. I was her at one point, having anxiety attacks because a then-boyfriend disapproved of everything i did, and I was so desperate to fix it and "earn" his approval. I threw myself into self-improvement and found acquaintances/strangers being kinder than him. His criticism was stronger than my (strong at the time) self-criticism. It was so subtle, like the way he looked at me and spoke to me. He would be nicer to friends/girlfriends of friends than me, and it was …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/22 04:39 PM
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That gutted my past pickme self 😭😭😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/22 07:00 AM
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Check out We Cannot Consent to This (UK). There are thankfully a lot of people fighting back. I think older generations are honestly unaware of the horrors out there, and the pressure for even non-bdsm girls and women to not be "vanilla."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/22 06:43 AM
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Why are we (as a society) telling women/girls “if you loved him, you’d let him do xyz thing” and not telling men/boys “if you loved her, you wouldn’t enjoy or be aroused by seeing her in pain” This is one of the reasons our society is completely f_@<3d right now. It's as if critical thinking skills are thrown out the window when someone asks if something harms women. The misogynistic brainwashing in "enlightened" and "Western" societies is real :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/22 06:42 AM
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Don't some ERs refuse visitors at admission because of COVID? we're missing some context here. (Obviously not defending him if he literally abandoned her and could have accompanied her)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/03/22 06:35 AM
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Holy FaceTune. Where is this woman's ribcage? Men who think this is real life are very sad.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/03/22 03:42 AM
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Exactly, dating should be easy and fun! Someone here said to pretend you are the judge of the contest. It is up to the contestants to plan and stress, not you 😉
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/03/22 05:49 AM
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I was taught this growing up because my family wanted me to be protected from situations where I would be more likely subjected to coercion/violence, not because they agreed with such a sentiment. Obviously I know better now, but the intentions were good. And sadly I did see men as "the prize," even if I outperformed them in all aspects of life, including morality. I thought we were all the same 🤡 and "I'm not perfect either" 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/03/22 04:51 AM
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Men: (does something violating) Also men: How dare you be suspicious of me!! The "logical" sex. 🤦🏼‍♀️ I am so sorry that happened to you. Anyone who expresses any interest in anal/choking will immediately be nexted from what I learned here
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/03/22 02:39 PM
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This is a depressing thought. I'm imagining all the NVM who probably believe they have strict personal moral codes like the final stage, but maybe hover at Level 1. And I'm imagining LVM at 2 because they treasure their bros (but not so much women). Yikes! (This is just wild speculation though)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 01:15 AM
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"Porn tells lies about women and the truth about men."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 12:48 AM
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🏅🏅🏅 Exactly, if people operate on this premise, they are basing their beliefs on a reality that does not exist. "We NeED p()rn" is abusive basement-dwelling scrote sh&t that made its way into the mainstream. It used to be just the shady, sketchy men nobody wanted to associate with buying porn videos or magazines. Maybe a lad would occasionally view a softcore mag (also damaging, in different ways) a couple times in his lifetime. But now everything is normalized-- P[]rn, strippers, prostitutes, t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 12:47 AM
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Thank you! This "normalize everything [that serves men's fantasies]" culture has gotten out of hand. These women are so "open minded" their brains have fallen out. I am seriously concerned for kids today, and the long-term consequences of people who grew up on this garbage.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 12:37 AM
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I don't care how "vanilla" they think it is. This is child abuse. F×€king sick 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 12:34 AM
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Agreed. I think its parent company is run by one man, who owns multiple sites like it. Pornhub has caused more erectile dysfunction, desensitization, sick fetishes, violent sex pushed on women, and basically exacerbated everything that could possibly be depraved about a man. Those of us who escaped its clutches in childhood/adolescence are very lucky.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 12:32 AM
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Oh my goodness LOL! I am mixed about rhe situation. Mike is probably single for a reason ("no basura!" And "I have ADHD 🤪" when he put the tissues in the car pocket). Also the pasta with "cheese sauce" (lol @ Ximena saying "don't eat it baby, you will get colic" 😂). Like Jasmine, I don't think this Ximena is a HV queen, as she was wrong to lie to him about her tubal ligation IMO, when they allegedly planned to have bio kids together. I don't think Ximena is genuinely attracted to him, sadly. But…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/22 08:11 PM
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❤❤❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/22 10:37 AM
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It sucks too how NVM target both whom they perceive to be "strong" or " weak" women. We just need to leave when we see red flags
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/22 10:33 AM
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I'm grateful you are free of him and escaped such a hellish experience. You are so strong-- thank you for sharing your story ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/22 10:18 AM
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Your late husband sounded HV. What man worth his salt doesn't want his woman to be safe and financially secure?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/22 05:52 AM
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internal screams my blood pressure just went up 30 points reading this ☹️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/22 05:47 PM
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I mean, I understand what she means about the sexual boundaries, but I think I would only go there if the person was thoroughly vetted and he had a strong history of being consistently respectful/no unsolicited reassurances (red flag)/never hung himself with his own rope (e.g. talking about how much he loves the booty, which could be a clue he will hound after anal sex). But she is right nonchalance can be very disrespectful and sneaky!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/22 05:19 PM
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ETA: also check out the site https://wecantconsenttothis.uk/aboutus and how they explain the issue of violence and sex being normalized. It is one of the best organizations out there compatible with FDS. Violence in sex is very unnatural IMO and becoming more mainstream due to p()rn. I think women are realizing this and fighting back.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/22 05:06 PM
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Yes. We live in a very very sick society, rewarding depraved thoughts and fantasies based on power. A lot of eVopSyCh is a lot of bullshit male power fantasies, like Epstein liked. And men who like to be violent toward women are sometimes impotent. I think some serial killers were impotent. None of this is beneficial toward the survival of the human species. Men who engage in depravity are literally trying to kill us off or make us extremely impaired as a society.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/22 05:02 PM
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Don't despair, the people making € from this stuff often have an agenda. Documentaries are not always 100% good faith info, unfortunately. And I am so sorry you and your family went through that trauma. Jedi hugs if you want them. One thing I learned is pedos tend to have lower testosterone (look it up on medical journals). If you look at how our biology works (e.g. the data about pregnancies being safer in the 20s than the teens, female arousal preventing injury from sex, the recovery time from…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/22 04:54 PM
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Just do a pre screening video call first if you have not met him in person.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/22 03:27 AM
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So many! This is a collection of what queens on here have said, and I agree: Lack of romance wondering if he actually likes you or just swiped on you because he was desperate lack of data to know how he would have approached you first IRL Lack of background checks men infiltrating the "relationship" apps and using them for hookups Men inherently valuing women on the apps less, because she is seen as "desperate" (you're on there too dude 🤯) or seeing them as "easy" Lack of questions to screen com…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/22 02:42 PM
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Handbook worthy IMO. The Tiffany's to Claire's analogy was a gutpunch.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/22 04:46 PM
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🤢 I'm so disappointed
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/22 03:39 PM
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Spite success! Brilliant. It's a huge step to be independent and moving forward 💖
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/22 05:01 AM
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This needs to be a thing 💝
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/22 04:58 AM
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She seems "whatever" about it and likes strippers, but she is bisexual. But she doesn't push other women to be so accepting of strippers if they are not comfortable. She always says the man should be respectful and come correct from Day 1 ETA: again, not condoning her take on sex work, just saying she is not against sex work and hookups. A lot of her videos have trick titles like "how to make a guy like you" and it usually has basic FDS-Types of messages. My hope is people who like her use her a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 11:26 PM
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You're certainly not alone. In the end, they have to live with what they did, and their actions were not worthy of being in your life. Hang in there
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 11:24 PM
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I'm so sorry for what happened and your loss. People who defend such atrocity can act so monstrously to maintain the dysfunctional system. Your peace and health come first! Internet hugs if you want them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 11:10 PM
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They seem to want bangmaids they can interchange when they're bored and the novelty wears off. What a hollow existence, never feeling those exhilarating feelings of falling in love, or only doing so if you ignore all her qualities and create a Pygmalion scenario. Yuck
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 11:09 PM
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Exactly. Honestly it's so much more fun spending time alone or with girl friends than a LVM. I'm never going to be that girl again, sitting down for hours of his favorite crappy show, with the cheapest boxed meal you can buy, and no nice gestures/outings/whatever after date one or two. Women have so much to offer in the world and LVM sh/t on it with negging and "hiding them from the rest of the world" (like Cyndi Lauper's song). Maybe it is a low effort form of mate-guarding
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 11:07 PM
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Thank you 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 11:02 PM
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You mean his 2D waifu pillow or the one from OF? 🤭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 11:02 PM
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I couldn't help but picture this
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 07:31 PM
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Yes, and "nice" for men usually means "I have never witnessed him beating/berating someone"not actual kindness. Meanwhile women who are labeled "nice" often do kind, prosocial things to actively benefit the community. The bar is in hell
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 06:21 PM
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I remember men lecturing women that it is "bad" and "hypergamous" to want to date someone with similar or higher income (e.g. 2 middle class people). It was shaming and projection because men are actually the hypergamous/exploitative ones in many cases
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 06:18 PM
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Women: Just treat me with kindness and respect, then we're good LVM/NVM: OK Also LVM/NVM: All I did was the [unkind/humiliating/disrespectful] prank/comment/betrayal and she had the audacity to leave me! I am blindsided! She must have bad character! (Note: never spell out you want to be treated well. Let him hang himself by his own rope-- basic expectations do not have to be spoken)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 06:15 PM
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"I don't do holidays, they're capitalist and commercialized" yet asks for a PS5 at Christmas 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 06:04 PM
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Honestly the way he was palming those fries and pouring the drinks looked so unappetizing. 🤢 Do not touch my food with your (probably) sweaty unwashed hands 🙅🏼‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 06:00 PM
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"I thought she would be mad" = he knew exactly what tf he was doing. #theyknowsis
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 05:58 PM
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Some immediate thoughts: 1: Look at how both of them are dressed/styled. She is a knockout with amazing style, he looks like he puts in no effort into his style. 2: Guaranteed this trip to Mexico will be the only nice thing he does for her, and it will be a future bargaining chip. "Well, you can't be mad at me for the thing I did this morning bc rEmEmBeR wHeN i ToOk U tO mExIcO?" If anyone has not had the misfortune of #2 happening to them, it happened to me with a tiny gesture he did. "Remember…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 05:57 PM
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Because they are often neckbeards who hate going out, or they reserve their cash/time for going out with his bros
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 05:03 PM
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This was unspoken in today's culture before I found FDS. I thought they got a pass because they "didn't have the money" and because of whatever deficiencies I thought I had (you know, Pickmes blaming their perceived "lack" of patience/empathy/understanding/looks/etc). I also thought I was "immature/entitled/too sensitive"because multiple sources beat me down when I pushed back against the "cool girl" narrative. People are mad at FDS because we realize women as a collective never should have sunk…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 05:02 PM
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They tell on themselves because they are low-effort and lazy. Plus, it's exhausting period having to craft an alternate persona. The ones that do eventually crack,, but you may need a separate pair of eyes (a trusted friend) who can see them when the mask falls
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 04:39 PM
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I just imagine this guy posting on another forum: "Fellas, is it gay to go on dates?" 🤡 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 04:35 PM
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This OP needs Chump Lady, stat. There is so much disorder to tease out, and she needs a dose of sanity as smelling salts. Holy crap
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 04:33 PM
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This happens a lot with CSA too, when survivors come forward. I think the family wants a Scapegoat for turning their life upside down, and OP is a "safer" target for anger. It's not a healthy reaction :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 03:38 PM
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It disturbs me how OP writes "I ruined" her life and reputation. No, that is a consequence of her and her actions. Also, the ex sounds like pure trash-- he probably said that to hurt her, and the truth is he liked the deception/having them both. He sounds like someone wanting to imitate The Graduate or something 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 03:34 PM
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Exactly, we're told by libfems and ignorant older generations (who grew up pandering to men but at least had a better chance of financial benefit) so many lies. We're told to give men the benefit of the doubt, see the "best" in them, be patient with inconsistent communication, offer casual arrangements to "earn" a relationship (lest you're "controlling" and "crazy" for wanting more), etc. The truth is a lot of men date in a narcissistic/sociopathic way, and this conditioning is like leading wome…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 03:25 PM
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Ladies, this is why you should never feel guilty refusing sex, taking time before establishing commitment, and dropping the entire framework of men being "owed" something for showing you interest/attention. This is a very tragic story because it highlights how sex is extremely risky for us (see the post on our website about how sex is not fair). Women can literally die from pregnancy and childbirth, yet this example of a scrote could not care less about this woman's well-being. Vet vet vet. Angr…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 02:57 PM
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I hope you never do too! They are very similar to Deb Cooper's description of "dusty" men as well. If you see the signs or feel it in your gut, jet out of there!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 03:04 PM
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Yes! When men claim "biology" it is an excuse. The boys knew what the Valentines were for. Doesn't Germany also have legal prostitution? (Correct me if i'm wrong). I wouldn't be surprised if that contributed to the "equality" facade with underlying misogyny.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 03:02 PM
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Again, I do not agree with or promote 100% of what she says. What I am saying is she had a good point in this scenario.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 05:58 AM
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"But WE are growing together! She needs to learn how to tolerate my lame LV-ness better 🤡🤯" I wish I could say I was exaggerating a lot...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 04:50 AM
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I immediately thought of this song 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 04:49 AM
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People who think like this also devalue a lot of women's work. While other career choices are equally fine, they pretend childfree women do not often work in jobs caring for children or adults (like education or healthcare) and they are still branded as cold, heartless "career women." I'm tired of women being expected to justify everything to ears refusing to listen. 😑😮‍💨
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 04:05 AM
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Happened to me. Except instead of cameras, it was to "mutual friends" who chose to believe I was "crazy" and the abuse didn't happen. They couldn't bear the thought the man who makes them laugh could act sociopathic behind closed doors 🙄 . Apparently being the male comic relief of a friend group is more valuable than being the steady clean-cut gal who listens to your problems and supports you. 🙄🙄🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 04:02 AM
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So, Britney Spears acting "CrAzY" (beating a paparazzi car when she was harangued) gets her a thirteen-year serfdom under her father, Meanwhile Kanye West acts "cRaZy" and he gets a pass because...? "Family values? I just. This is the same man who had wax figurines of naked celebs in a music video IIRC. It's the same misogynistic double-standard, even in Tinseltown ☹️ (ETA I am not condoning outbursts/erratic behavior from both Britney and Kanye. The people most hurt by this crap will be the chi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 03:58 AM
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Excellent points. I remember watching a bit of the sitcom "Mom" (written by Chuck Lorre or however you spell it) and it was strangw. It was like a caricature of women written by men. It wasn't funny, funny-crude, or cute like other female-led films, just crude.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/22 06:52 AM
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The podcast legit has an episode where they talk about women confusing competency with being a dom 🥴
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/02/22 04:05 AM
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Exactly. And who gets shamed/unalive threats? Us "sex negative" meanies 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/22 03:05 PM
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Exactly, these men are monstrous for doing if even if it is "just because she likes it." 😨
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/22 02:56 PM
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It is extremely terrifying. It's also saddening and disturbing these women think they have to do it and say they "love it."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/22 02:42 PM
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It's about the consideration. You both should be maintaining oral hygiene period, as HVP are expected. The syndrome you have at least sounds like it can be addressed with brushing. But he doesn't have an excuse to (for example) be lazy and not floss for 6 days before a makeout session. I immediately turn down men with bad breath. Obviously morning breath is a given, but it doesn't mean he should expect kissing or something 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/22 06:52 AM
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I don't think you are. I think he pretends to be more incompetent than he actually is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/22 12:12 AM
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Women are told they are cruel/callous/etc If they don't stick around. This is a tragic situation all around
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 05:43 AM
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Why tf did she give the daughter her phone?? DONT 👏GIVE 👏ANYONE👏 YOUR👏 PHONE 👏 OP trusted these people way too much. The daughter sounds troubled, and yes she is a minor, but why was her father exposing her to these women he dated so early? When the father exploded on OP, it seemed he was behind a lot of this nonsense. Ladies, protect your technology and your privacy. You have nothing to prove.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 05:41 AM
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Its' projection. Men are often afraid of being called fat, and many see fat women as "fat" (as a "bad" adjective). Unattractive NVM and their flying monkeys keep pressuring us to give them chances. Imagine this type of man freaking when any woman other than his "ideal" dares to show her body or be confident. They are hyper-paranoid we will start pulling the same nonsense of pressuring them to settle for women they are not attracted to. Double standards as per the usual scrotery. This was briefly…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 05:31 AM
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Splenda daddy indeed! He was a Salty daddy after she ripped off his hat 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 05:23 AM
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I feel terrible for both of them because it seems like Ximena doesn't seem genuinely attracted to him. Affection yes, but not sexual attraction. :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 05:22 AM
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More data came out, now the ex is denying releasing those photos. It's more plausible Gino did it for sure.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 05:21 AM
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Agreed some of the women get a bad edit on the show. But, I do like some of the memes.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 03:40 AM
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Men using "brutal honesty" as an excuse to be cruel are cowards. It's as lazy as the "I speak in sarcasm" men 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 03:19 AM
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Exactly! She looks like she thinks she is trapped into giving in to him. It's so sad.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/22 06:37 PM
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💖💖💖
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/22 06:24 PM
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Women seem to internalize body dysmorphia, and men blame women for theirs :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/22 06:22 PM
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There was this clown professor sticking up for "MAP" people in the US, and I think they were fired...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/22 02:39 PM
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Someone posted something here about how women "don't like women" because of how women are portrayed in books, music, movies written by...men. it blew my mind, and your comment sounds like an iteration of it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/22 04:32 AM
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It's almost like straight men are actively working to turn us off 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/22 04:26 AM
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Brilliant strategy guide! I think it is really important to second what you said about observing behavior, and how benefit of the doubt is a scam for women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/22 04:24 AM
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It should be a crime to encourage children to look at porn. I thought the materials were marked "18+" for a reason?? What is actually happening to this world? Maybe before some parents would have silent, tacit compliance about their kids looking at magazines or something, but this is beyond twisted. The magazines were wrong too, but the internet literally has everything wrong with porn at a person's fingertips. (Pls can we put libfems in the dunce corner? I seriously can't). ETA: Some words.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/22 04:02 AM
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I dislike libfem and "performative" woke make feminists I am reluctant to adopt the term "feminist" alone. I think "radical feminist" better suits me, even though I do perform certain rituals of femininity (Hair removal, etc). Can we make a FDS form of feminism? 🤓
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/22 04:48 AM
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"You're just mad the [airbrushed] pornstars are hotter blablabla" ...coming from a man who actively prefers porn over a live woman 🤡🤏
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/22 04:46 AM
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which is actually perfect for me, because it benefits him 💀🤡🙈 Brilliant deconstruction of the Pickme rationalizations. I feel for her and can certainly relate. It's incredible how women are now socialized to ignore things our mothers and grandmothers new about men trying to use us for sex via false pretenses. It's sick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/22 03:56 AM
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"WaHmEn HaVe iMpOsSiBlE sTaNdArDs!"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/22 03:47 AM
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I seriously side-eyed when she said they were reading the same book! My bet is she mentioned the book first. 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/22 03:42 AM
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Yes, some women feel like they "owe" sex for the title of being a gf. 😣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/22 03:38 AM
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I am so sorry. If you don't mind me asking, what religious background did you have?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/22 03:37 AM
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Literally! It's a sick Revenge of the Nerds fantasy, and Gino literally bragged about Jasmine to his ex-sugar baby. Gross!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 02:59 PM
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Yes, apparently next episode we will see more duper's delight and such. When she askrd him about the pics, he said "I didn't do that for darn sure 🐭" 🐍
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 04:39 AM
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OP, I am sorry you felt attacked by this post. The reason why we are reacting strongly (IMO) is because of concern for you and your well-being, and pointing out this misogynistic system encouraging you to accept these conditions in your marriage. Seeing posts like yours is like a mirror for those of us that had similar pasts. Based on your post, the situation did not seem to benefit you. Women deserve to unapologetically pursue pleasure (with consent) like men do, and IMO not subject their partn…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 04:07 AM
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YourTango usually has really Pickme articles, but this seems legit. I'm sad to think any women today may still believe in the "shotgun marriage." No thank you
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 12:46 AM
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The Lundy Bancroft Interview, but I forget if it was part one or two.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 12:44 AM
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He's seems childish and immature too. Screams low testosterone 🤢 (ETA to say thank you, by the way)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 12:43 AM
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I think she doesn't say no because she feels compelled to "satisfy" him, lest he leaves. This is awful and rapey, not loving sex. This is one of those moments where I wish women could have a global sex strike without risk of Male Violence. This woman needs a reprieve...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 12:41 AM
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OLD is full of those types IME. :( I'm sorry that happened to you
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 12:37 AM
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I have not watched the new episode yet, but I imagine the argument will be a complete trainwreck. It's disgusting how he pretends like he is a dorky Disney character, when he does the same malicious things angry Redditors do.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/22 11:05 PM
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It's always an honor to have your comments 🥰 And yes, I never understood the appeal of Pete Davidson. When I heard the comments he made while dating Ariana Grande, I was horrified at how crass he was. Also, he has borderline and who knows if he is getting help.🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️I love Shallon Lester's imitation of him lol
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/22 11:03 PM
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If you want to avoid pinky/blue undertones, you might need an orange red/yellow-based red if you lean warm. Or, you may just need a decent longwearing lipstick that does not fade
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/22 07:11 AM
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🤢🤢🤢 I will gladly choose "dying alone with my cats," thanks!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/22 10:57 PM
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100% he has some daddy-daughter porn fantasy 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/22 04:02 PM
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Where do I even start? This guy reminds me so much of a sociopathic ex. At the very least, here are his red flags (remember, at FDS a red flag is "do not proceed and LEAVE," not the libfem/tradwife "pause, feel uncomfortable, then give into his 'needs"." Some observations: He gives off Male Bumbler vibes. Who says "where's my blowy?" Who else but male bumblers/misogynists say things like "Hur hur I can't help having a wandering eye/saying inappropriate things, I'm a man🤪" 🙄 This would render me …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/22 04:00 PM
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YASSS I cannot wait to listen! ❤❤❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/22 02:24 PM
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OP, abuse makes us do out of character things sometimes. I strongly recommend you read Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Then by Susan Forward. This book breaks down the hypocrisy and misogyny in abusive men, and how making nice to them does not work. Some of the advice you receive here from the queens may be seen as harsh or tough. However, please do not take this feedback to heart. We want to help inspire you to change and be the badass you can be. You ever listen to how Ruthless the p…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/22 02:40 PM
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This comment is a great example of how existing traumas/fight or flight responses can make women even more susceptible to Pickme culture/ internalized misogyny/tolerating misogyny from men. Obviously OP will need to figure it out with her therapist, but thank you so much for sharing what worked for you and giving some suggestions. I don't recommend waiting with abusers for them to "get better" in a program.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/22 02:34 PM
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I thought Tara was a lesbian too. I just don't get it. The male gaze and internalized misogyny are so ingrained, it hurts my heart to see it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/22 04:45 AM
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How orignal-- Snarky Libfem Pickmes saying "mEn HaVe eating disorders too," defending porn, and making fun of the only 5% or so of the rational feminist internet space. I'm literally sickened. I fast forwarded through most of it, tbh. To the women who diss us: your loss, sis 🤷‍♀️ P.S. Thanks for the free publicity! How about we shoot for 300k subscribers by 2023 ? 💅
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/22 04:42 AM
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The problem is many people in "the mainstream" and real life have diluted ideas of what people on Reddit say. The pickmes are especially strong, and can give terrible advice operating on the false narrative these abusive men are acting in good faith.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/22 04:18 AM
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You perfectly described how women cannot win with abusive men, and the complete absurdity of how they think. Thank you so much. I would add this to the handbook.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/22 04:16 AM
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It really sucks when that happens. The thoughts we can use to berate ourselves our endless-- "only the guys who ask out everyone ask me out," "only neckbeards ask me out," "attractive guys don't approach me" etc etc. The truth is, low value people will approach you if there is something to gain. And we are just speaking demographics-- you have no clue if men on your attractiveness/success/etc level are decent people or not until you get to know them. Continue to be your best self and do not show…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/02/22 04:10 AM
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Call your national DV hotline (Loveisrespect.org or Thehotline.org) for further guidance. If your friend is willing, they can help safety plan with her. Because he shows violent tendencies, this MUST be done stealthily and with caution. She can't tell him she's leaving, at least not until she has her ducks in a row. I'm sorry she is going through this. You're a fantastic friend for posting.
/r/askFDS30/01/22 11:36 PM
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Passive, miquetoast men with secret aggression like this are my biggest ick! Limp-wristed yet holding a knife to your back, then crying victim if you call a spade a spade 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/01/22 07:29 PM
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It's actually really ableist when men blame asshole behavior on mental health diagnoses, because people with the diagnosis are mostly not like that. Just like how it is actually "misandrist" or man-hating when men claim "hating prostitution, porn, and rapey behavior is misandrist!" If hating a negative behavior means hating a group if people, why are these men insisting these behaviors are specific and inherent to men? 🤔 Tl;dr: self-burn
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/01/22 06:27 PM
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ETA: This man is probably pornsick.. Another thought: newest example of gaslighting ("My ADHD made me do it!") Is Mike from 90Df (with Ximena). He farts on top of her, burps and laughs, leaves clothes around with (alleged) skidmarks on his boxers, and stuck his snotty tissues in the seat pocket of a cab driver's car. He blamed his clothes habit on ADHD, and some people are criticizing her for being grossed out. I can understand someone having to fart/burp, but don't do it literally on top of you…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/01/22 06:11 PM
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Idk why, but these stories of men using a mental health issue as an excuse (diagnosed or undiagnosed) tend to include ADHD, depression, autism/asperger's, or something else similar. ADHD can make someone impulsive, but following an attractive woman to that degree? Repeatedly engaging in disrespectful behavior? No excuse. I would bet we have many FDS ladies here who never did this, even if their partners were someone they weren't attracted to. This is 100% another form of control and retaliation …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/01/22 06:06 PM
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Right, but the guys at the bar could have been randos they met. Idk. But I agree with the concept you're talking about. "Woke" men and men with trash friends are quite suspicious
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/01/22 05:07 PM
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Moral relativism by culture has killed common sense and hurt women 😔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/01/22 05:04 PM
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Yes! Not looking after ourselves is expected, because men are (unconsciously) catered to first in our minds. Pickmes/self-sacrificing women don't really get a cookie for this. Maybe they will get some "head pats" on Reddit for saying they asked out a man 🤡. Always be Ruthless when vetting and dump accordingly 💅
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/01/22 05:02 PM
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Agreed. But, ladies, do keep on mind men who don't love you are still capable of doing this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/01/22 04:04 PM
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They are so triggered by us. The podcast episode on The 16 Rules of Misogyny is so true. They act like us calling out male violence is the same, or at least a sliver, as bad as violent acts.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/01/22 04:23 AM
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I think it was that, or maybe he is dating multiple women and confused her preferences with someone else's. Or, he never cared enough to actually listen to her about things she likes because he does not see women as fully human, just interchangeable doll companions.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/01/22 12:32 AM
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Ooof the gut-punch accuracy of this. It is downright sociopathic to rob people of joy intentionally
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/01/22 12:30 AM
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What would be better examples of gifts in your opinion? Genuinely curious because I have no idea what to expect
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/01/22 12:27 AM
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It's bad when someone looks worse than Coltee 😂 Remenber how he was asking Fernanda about her model friend? 🤢 Then when Liz came back, he waxed poetic about how he missed her "weird teeth." 🤢🤢🤢 this man believes he is entitled to a 22 year old, or at least someone who "looks younger than Liz" 🤯
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/01/22 11:51 PM
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Big Pred is a perfect example of NVM weaponizing therapized language and crocodile tears to manipulate women. It seemed like he was rushing and pressuring Kaory, who he dated (before getting back with Liz) briefly. "We have a special connection oOoOoO!" The histrionics in his language is so much like an abuser, because he is desperately trying to lovebomb. I will never forget how cruel he was to Liz in the leaked phone conversation. I feel sad for her that she think she can't do better, and sad …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/01/22 11:47 PM
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Yes, beautifully said. When a relationship or marriage is broken up society calls it "failed." It is a very depressing matter of semantics. If we stop equating relationships and marriage to achievements like work/certifications/degrees/charity efforts, we will be so much happier.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/01/22 03:46 AM
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The last line is such a sociopathic, NVM statement. AKA "I will use someone, drain them dry, and abandon them if my dream woman gives me the time of day." Nevermind how he probably wins treat the dream girl much better. It is quite easy for a woman's humanity to knock her off a man's imaginary pedestal
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/01/22 03:13 PM
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Yes, and lots of creeps over 40 have always been pervy, but some are now getting into the new ways to perv :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/22 04:51 AM
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It's very disturbing. Men used to go crazy seeing just a nude woman. Now they have extinguished their attraction to real live women. It's gross and feels like a sick dystopian science experiment by Big P[]rn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/22 04:40 AM
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That was one of the top grossest... And yet they accuse women of "withholding sex" aka the phrase "using sex as a weapon." 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/22 06:04 AM
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Thank you 😇
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/22 01:51 AM
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Prince Andrew 🤢🤢🤢 # neverforget
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/22 03:28 PM
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Past pickme self on OLD: "They can't all be so bad, right? Right??" I remember thinking they were slow to warm/have a human connection bc "maybe they were hurt in the past" 🤡 Meanwhile I learned a woman having to be careful on a date is much different from men's hesitation
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/22 03:25 PM
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Thanks! The formatting turned out a bit wonky, but glad it's readable 😄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/22 02:53 PM
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Amazing post! I just don't understand people who lie about height. Multiple men I met IRL claimed they were taller than they were as well. "I'm 5'9" when they were maybe 5'5". Can someone explain why they do this, when literally I am standing right there?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/22 02:51 PM
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I'm so sorry you went through that. I think codependency is real, but I do not like how some of the material is so simplistic and can come off as victim-blaming. I can't name any examples right now, but I didn't like how I felt when I tried reading Codependent No More many years ago... If you feel comfortable, what did the workers say to you when they showed they just didn't understand?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/22 05:05 AM
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Exactly. It sounds like you were subjected to a hive mentality from people who were supposed to provide you moral support, but were tired of hearing about your emotions (like someone else mentioned). I hope you have a blessed new year surrounded by good people 🙏
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/22 04:51 AM
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This is going to be long 🙃 -cigarette smoke/any tobacco use/stale clothes/car/house from cigarette smoke. I could understand a guy having an occasional drag outdoors if he is very stressed. This is especially if he is chewing gum/brushing his teeth before kissing me. Otherwise not acceptable. -Poor hygiene/grooming (showers less than daily, dirty/ragged nails) -dismissive of pets' value -quoting a show or movie and either 1) not explaining it so it sounds like he actually responded with somethin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/22 04:34 AM
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Thanks 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/22 02:38 AM
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You never have to force yourself to forgive or make nice to a past abuser. (obviously if it is a situation where he may hurt you, it may be self-defense to play nice/dumb, YMMV). Agreed 100% your feelings were weaponized against you, as they were human, understandable grief. It is not "acting destructively" or whatever acknowledging your feelings. Your "friend" (when you spoke about your mom) acted like you were stealing and pawning things, or lying compulsively, and using your mom as an excuse …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 03:40 PM
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Holy shit. I am so so sorry. None of it was okay. The steps sound like they were perverted in order to keep the status quo/"missing stair." Through society's focus on accountability (for the woman), it is much easier to avoid naming the problem (predatory men). I'm disgusted because it sounds like they enabled predators and allowed them to escape accountability, like so many other institutions. You and your friend deserved better. Wishing you healing and happiness, wherever you find it ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 03:35 PM
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Self loathing with a few casualties to take with them. How very sad and sick
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 04:47 AM
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Exactly!! It is all so true. Surprise, if women feel happier and more secure overall, our libidos increase. But they like to pretend we are crazy and asexual 🙄. Once I learned to treat my time, energy, effort, and emotions like currency, I learned a man has to be very very special for him to be around those currencies let alone risk draining me of those expenses! And society gaslit me into giving those resources over and over with no return ("the return is he says you're pretty sometimes and giv…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 04:46 AM
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I was just thinking about social media and libfem spaces over the years. It would go something like: Libfem writer: "Men, we're human too! 😛 Sassy feminist! Yay male tears, cause we SHOWED you. It's so radical for me to say women are PEOPLE! Cry about it hehehe" M/\nosphere men on the media platform: "Libfem, you're being such a c__t. You don't have to be so bitchy." Libfem: "but I just want respect..." M/\nosphere: "maybe we would respect you if your kind made some inventions. Why can't you be …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 04:18 AM
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Sis most of the men I dated did this to me in some way shape or form. Being a pickme, I did stay and hope it would get better, but they permanently gave me the ick. Zip zero zilch negative infinity attraction. For context, they already were not attractive to me, but the small ick/lack of attraction turned into full-blown repulsion. Sometimes the full-blown repulsion was immediate, sometimes I was confused, turned off and sad until I started to realize what happened. But it never ended well, as i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 03:57 AM
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The "actually" has been a thorn in my side. First, passive aggressive girls said it in 7th grade, now men say it. "You might actually be intelligent" or "gee you were actually kind of funny." 🙄 I'm out!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 03:42 AM
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Projection at its finest! Glad you are free of him
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 03:39 AM
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A lot of them try to make "negs" seem accidental too! The myth of the male bumbler, the other excuses ("it was just a joke" and "I have ADD") and everything else work together to make us feel off balance
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 03:36 AM
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It may have been this one https://youtu.be/w3kuvEL5E28 but maybe on her podcast too. This one is a good one about the Ick, which I get about these self-pitying dudes: https://youtu.be/YPjXDefYkPc I have so many favorite videos of hers I forget which ones I liked best 😆 We don't agree 100% but my goodness she is an amazing example of confidence and nurturing her fans
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 02:31 AM
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Shallon Lester calls this "kill the cheerleader" syndrome and it is so true IMO. Absolutely concerning how men think like this. Excellent handbook-worthy post. The issue is not men having a trauma or being unpopular (as sometimes people really are targeted unfairly), but men having unresolved trauma + entitled abusive attitude + misogyny creates this issue. Women are not responsible for fixing these men. The men need to fix themselves. Our society tries to foist these "broken" men onto us, and c…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/22 11:43 PM
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Handbook worthy! When we pathologize women for their feelings or being "clingy," we avoid the problem at hand: he just isn't worth your time. Thank you for the specific examples many of us have experienced in the past.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/22 08:45 PM
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🤡🤣 cue circus/carnival music
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/22 04:30 PM
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ETA: Episode was amazing, 100/100! It was surreal in a good way. FDS grew from a sub of 50k or so to have a literal podcast. The podcast hosts are kickass and feature incredible guests Do you think it would be possible to get Deborrah Cooper, Abigail Shrier, and/or Tracy Schorn (Chump Lady) on the podcast too?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/22 06:32 AM
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"Woo" is a grand overstatement 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/22 06:23 AM
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Everyone here with financial/business expertise made great comments. Kudos for posting and listening your gut. I think that alone is a sign something is off
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/22 01:51 PM
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🤯 amazing how she never got fired for this inappropriate conduct. It sounds like a movie with its level of ridiculousness. I'm glad you still avoided her (even though you were surrounded by a culture discouraging boundaries). It's disgusting how our porny culture encourages people to either be lambs to the slaughter (give them a chance, accept advances to fulfill someone's fantasy) or predators. You survived!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 03:05 PM
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HVM don't want this fantasy garbage period IMO
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 10:10 AM
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Excellent-- the language and other things about a man will "tip" you off if he is indeed pornsick. As we know, some men volunteer/deny they don't watch it and do so anyway.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 10:02 AM
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Better to be overcautious and have the greater likelihood of protecting your children. There are no second chances 😔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 09:57 AM
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Lurkers are big mad at this comment 😂 Truth hurts
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 09:51 AM
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Yes, it is very sick. And p()rn used to be just for the creepy guys who couldn't get female attention. Now it's "well it's normal and healthy!" 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 09:47 AM
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We need the NSFL tag 😂😭😨
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 09:37 AM
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They make soap stands and bags to keep soap fresh, my man. Also, I'm concerned about how much hair he has and how he can just rip it out. Apparently this process is a DIY epilator too 🤢💀
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 09:37 AM
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Wtf?? I just? I...? I don't...? I'm deceased 💀
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 09:33 AM
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!! What an awesome surprise. I think I requested Lundy Bancroft ages ago! Thank you ladies! ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 09:31 AM
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Seconded so much about learning to receive.. it's sad how so many women are tought love is something we must sacrifice and work hardest for. It's also going to take acceptance not every HVM will be HV for you, if you are simply not compatible or don't have chemistry. I think taking off that pressure will help. Plus, you don't know who is HV or not until many months pass.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 02:11 AM
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I have heard of garbage professors encouraging people to watch porn years ago (e.g. to rekindle sexual desire in a couple). It is complete and utterly garbage. And of course women are getting the short end of the stick. Who is attracted to a man ruled by a computer screen? 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 02:07 AM
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I am so sorry. NVM tell us who they really are, then we get burned if we choose to project our goodness onto them :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 02:02 AM
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So many smug parents let these damaged men (now in their 20s/30s) go on the internet unsupervised as children. They did not protect their innocence. You would think people would be more savvy now, but now younger generations are inflicted with the same. I'm sad and disgusted nobody is educating and protecting the children. Imagine allowing your children to view sociopathic explicit material (because when they're little they're like an accessory! /s) then being surprised when they have messed up …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 01:55 AM
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I had no idea a person could do a free internet search like that on a Nintendo device. I am convinced letting kids have unsupervised internet access is child abuse/neglect. It is the mental and emotional equivalent of letting them play in traffic and scarring for life :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 01:48 AM
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Porn is misogynist propaganda and making the wealthy wealthier. It fuels the medical industry (ED drugs) and all sorts of parts in media, like music videos and movies. It's literally breaking men's bodily functions, relationships, attraction, and self-esteem and they still do it!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 01:46 AM
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This is literally why a sexual relationship with a man is so unappealing in today's culture. Imagine having to spend the rest of your life engaging in unfulfilling, exploitative, depressing sex to fulfill your man's sexual script/"fantasies." "Making love" seems not to be a thing to so many of these men. Apparently just being wildly attracted to a person (looks and personality) and enjoying them is boring and vanilla 🤡 Apparently it is healthier to rot in front of a screen and openly lust after …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 01:40 AM
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Some links to how Johns see prostitutes: https://www.bettinaflitner.de/portfolio-1/freier-johns https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/08/gender.uk https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/aug/05/payoff-sex-workers-clients-stories
/r/askFDS11/01/22 02:21 PM
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At FDS, YOU get to set you standard. It doesn't matter what people on this post say. This is between you and possibly a therapist. It sounds like you are shocked and grieving the person you thought he was. Tbh I would want to vomit too. So, some ideas of questions to ask yourself: 1) why does the idea of a prostitute bother me? What does it mean when a man uses a prostitute? 2) when is it acceptable for anyone to buy sex? What does it say about culture? What does it say about misogyny? 3) are th…
/r/askFDS11/01/22 02:06 PM
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It really is horrifying. Hypothetically, even if he was just nervous, why would he even bring up Onlyfans? Even if he didn't mean exactly to hurt you in particular, it still shows he likely sees women as a commodity (pay a certain price, get nudes). IMO he sounded quite pornsick to even mention it 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/22 01:48 PM
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Stop 😂 lol!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/22 04:07 AM
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The only time I do 50-50 is when I want to make it crystal clear "I see you as a friend " on a bad date. Or maybe I sense danger and I don't want the creepy guy harassing me with venmo for my £6 appetizer 🤡. Those exceptions aside, I will never do 50-50 again!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/22 03:48 AM
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Look up the "blood in the water" post. This guy was fishing for insecurities in OP and she did not take the bait. Well done!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/22 03:38 AM
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I'm seconding everything /u/yoursultana said here. When he was asking where you lived, you didn't have to explain about a stalker or an ex. A man is not deserving of this information. He got you on the "defensive" of JADE: justify argue defend explain. You sounded near-endessly patient, but you never ever ever ever ever ever ... Ever have to justify not giving personal information to a man! When he showed the first red flag (asking about Onlyfans) would have been reasonable for you to make up an…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/22 03:36 AM
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Thank you for bringing this up. They love to make false equivalences but snooping to protect yourself vs smooping to stalk, terrorize and control your partner are two completely different t things. The weed vs meth argument is insane. I am so sorry about your experiment experiment and hope you are in a better place now. I am angry for you that an action to protect yourself (snooping) was twisted.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/01/22 11:38 PM
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Yes, what "sex positive" should have been (adult women enjoying intimacy in a safe pleasurable loving way, with full informed consent, without shame) has turned into performatice p()rnstar Olympics to please men (and get subjected to potential violence/strangling/brain damage). Women who refuse to do oral/anal/bdsm or say prostitution/porn hurt women are SeX nEgAtIvE. Because of porn, lies are told about women. The sheer existence of attempts to legitimize prostitution/sex work, and lack of cons…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/01/22 01:58 AM
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Yes! Honestly I would be so turned off. Any man who compares me negatively or positively to other women hints to me he wants those other women and is bitter he can't have them
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/22 05:27 PM
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It's horrible how even mainstream songs talk about women telling men to "choke" them. It's disgusting and irresponsible
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/22 05:07 AM
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Are you still together? If you're comfortable sharing, I would like to hear more about your experience in therapy and how you realized it wasn't going to work.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/22 04:37 AM
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💯💯💯 this is libfem brainwashing in a nutshell. In earlier times, pleasing men was taught to eventually secure financial means with a husband someday. Now, pleasing men runs the almost definite risk a woman will have a vampire draining her of time, energy, money, health, and spirit. But, society has not caught up yet. No thanks
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/22 04:24 AM
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I'm not getting good vibes from the comment either. It sounds like an underhanded way to get you to work out more and compete... I need a second opinion: /u/modernmedusaa I would love to hear your take on this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/22 01:55 AM
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Right exactly! Search the reddit post "stop being an intellectual virgin" (i think it's a 4th wave feminist sub-- I am not supposed to link here) and it talks about that same pressure for women to act so frivolous about their personal safety. It keeps perpetuating the same (false) "moral equivalence of "a woman rejecting/being suspicious of a man is literal discrimination/bigotry/violence/eugenics." Women are shamed for being afraid of men harming them, shamed for being upset/angry about past ha…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/22 11:13 PM
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Where is this teen girl's father? There are "jokes" about shotgun weddings and such for a reason. I am not advocating for violence, but IMO there needs to be an intimidating male family figure for these situations to help deter these clowns...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/22 12:04 AM
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Thanks, I hate it. The absolute depravity. First, I strongly believe minors are too immature to be having sex, period. Second, it doesn't matter that she "asked." It should have never happened. Anyone who is turned on by violence has deep-seated issues, and somehow it has turned into an unpopular opinion. Does anyone remember when kink and such was a joke? Examples like p()rn, because only "creepy dudes" who couldn't get laid were supposedly into it? Remember when the most "kinky" a woman would …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/22 12:01 AM
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They don't seem to even want a connection, they just want the ego boost of knowing "she would date me if she could." It is very sick and narcissistic IMO
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 04:47 PM
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Women are gaslit on the reg from childhood: "he is mean to you on the playground because he likes you!" In our teens and 20s, we are further gaslit with "he shows mixed signals because he was hurt in the past/is shy/is inexperienced/is so shocked by his feelings for you/is busy/etc BUT he really likes you!" Then we are shamed for being "needy" aka asking for something normal. Women's magazines, other media, friends, family members, and the mixed signal-men themselves perpetrate the status quo. N…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 04:45 PM
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You have some good points. I definitely am not condoning Valerie's choices. Dropping everything to travel for a man you never met is ridiculously unsafe and desperate. Exhibit B: Darcey Silva leaving her kids to chase foreign men and get cosmetic surgery overseas. But, what happened to Valerie is not her fault. She did not protect herself by managing her risks as we advise, but I see it as something similar to the Gabby Petito case. For instance, Gabby went on a trip, alone, with a man who other…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 06:41 AM
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Yes, this needs to be shouted from the rooftops! The We Cannot Consent to This (UK) organization sums it up. It is incredible how mainstream society does not talk about these risks of modern day sex enough. If you told me all this when I was a teen, I would have never believed it. It would have been too ludicrous to believe str_ngulation, an_l, and rough or_l sex were an "expected" part of being with a modern heterosexual man and "keeping" him. It sounds like some twisted barbaric torture. For a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 06:14 AM
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Just think of how many of the options might not shower or might have a smell/pheromones that turn you off. 😆 The times I have tried forcing romantic attraction to men I was not attracted to (and engaging in lovey-dovey things like kissing) I derived minimal to no pleasure, or had literal body pain from the stress. I was promised by "friends," media, etc it would get better and the attraction would "grow," lest I was just after "immature" and "shallow" love for a "pretty boy." My muscles would li…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 01:35 AM
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Yes, acceptance and honesty with yourself is non-negotiable. Better to be lonely and have pangs than waste your time, energy, effort, and love on someone who doesn't deserve it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 01:25 AM
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She is goals. 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 01:24 AM
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Exactly. I lucked out getting out of this cycle when I did. The wall doesn't exist either-- just take care of yourself inside and out. Thank you for an amazing post.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 01:22 AM
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Do you have any articles on the baldness part? I cannot seem to find anything, but it seems low-T guys with zero drive, porn addiction and balding are correlated...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/22 01:20 AM
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All of this, absolutely. The media, including some rom-coms, portray men's lies as "he just wants to protect her!" or some other enabling bs. The reality is a man lying is to protect HIMSELF from consequences (e g. You dumping him). OP owes him no explanation.
/r/askFDS05/01/22 01:11 AM
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This. I was a secure attached buying the bullshit and consuming typical relationship "advice." I self-diagnosed (🤡) as anxious attached, and looked up how not to be clingy, when the men simply did not fancy me nor respect me as a human being. They dumped me whether or not I "clung" to them from the anxiety they caused. In the past, when I felt "secure" and gave space, I was still dealing with the disappearing act and just dumped slower. In the "secure" scenario, my friends and family were worrie…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/22 01:05 AM
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It's disgusting. LVM say things like "Don't dump me like the rubbish bin. I plan to do the thing." (Spoiler: the thing is something he has put zero effort toward, and takes practice over a long time). This is why we are too turned off to date these kinds of men. You are right there is a double standard. ETA: Reading your comment again, it makes perfect sense. If they have these rich inner fantasy lives crossing into their perception of reality, no wonder how they can become so mean and haughty a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/22 12:42 AM
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I looked it up and had the misfortune of learning how they can have weird stereotypes based on aesthetic/alt/hair color. Apparently they like pale girls because they look more vulnerable or something 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/22 08:30 PM
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Absolutely. That mindset is why I was stuck in the endless vortex of Pickmeism. I was operating on a "most men are good," "I must be the problem because it keeps happening to me," and "they are mean to me because I am not good enough" mindset. I valued men who simply gave me attention, like they did me a favor by giving attention. I didn't even like them but thought they were the best I could do. I was so confused because I made so many great friends (especially female friends) but men just kept…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/22 07:28 PM
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Yes! Just the act of being so callous will wear many people down over time IMO. It gets dehumanizing and can make women feel learned helplessness ETA: some words
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/22 02:44 PM
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This is why we don't text paragraphs ever. He is portraying her as CrAzY or stuck-up. Yes, he sounds LV. But as HVW: NEVER justify your worth and explain what you bring the table. NEVER explain what he did wrong. He knows, or doesn't care enough to change. Block and delete.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/21 08:35 PM
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Honestly I think it could be considered assault if he's flat out hurting her and won't stop...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/21 07:53 PM
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"He LoVeS yOu MoRe ThAn hIs KiIiIiNks" This is what keeps women with pornsick, abusive, selfish, cheating and/or deadly men. There is never a shortage of depravity apologists on the internet. ETA: realizing people treat men's "kinks" like a medical need. "If I don't have my kink, I'll die! 🥺🤡"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/21 06:46 PM
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Aaand there it is! Devil's advocate, annoying mansplaining explained
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/21 06:40 PM
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You may have saved your life by listening to your instincts. I don't understand these pickme therapists. It's shameful they peddle this libfem "open-minded" garbage that actively harms women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/21 03:09 AM
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I immediately thought he meant in bed. "Turnoff" is not a strong enough word 😬😬😬
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/21 03:23 PM
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I remember seeing something posted here (a tiktok)? Where the husband was saying something about how he doesn't deserve her, etc. I can never unsee it as a man telling on himself and "excusing' future disrespect/betrayal. I was dumped by a LVM ehi said such garbage.. Ugh...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/21 03:36 AM
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I'm guessing he's not photo shy? What a sad situation 😔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/21 03:34 AM
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This is a great one, as it is always good to see a man's reaction if you say no to something. (Not saying to purposely be contrarian).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/21 03:22 AM
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IMO I think you will know if your life becomes much easier for having him around. Men who settle for women tbey don't love, IMO, often become a burden on the woman, or a lukewarm relationship at best. LVM/NVM quietly or openly "tolerate" you, and you can easily find yourself justifying: "he's nice sometimes, like when he talks about his interests." You feel more like furniture than a friend or lover. My first thoughts with genuine attraction and affection: Consistency over time, being genuinely …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/21 03:21 AM
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Yes, this is exactly why they project and say we'll be single forever. Some queens have described it as "don't threaten me with a good time" 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/21 03:12 AM
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"Pornography tells lies about women and the truth about men" remains a scarily accurate quote. Men who have actual positive masculinity can embrace their personal power without treating us down. And yet so many continue to emulate porn, punch down, take their napoleonic anger out on us, and just attack women out of fear of out power. I'm sick of it and agree with those boycotting all sexual acts we don't want to do/are uncomfortable w/
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/21 06:02 PM
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ETA: Men don't have to perfectly plan a date, but my goodness they should be proactive. They should problem-solve and be attentive/courteous. It's not that hard...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/21 05:27 AM
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He sounds low-T and limp-wristed. The indecisiveness and not making a move back when he liked you is giving me self-imposed incel vibes (not necessarily the violent/spiteful kind, but the passive fatalistic and a bit passive aggressive). How is he 21 and able to live day to day, when he is so paralyzed making such tiny decisions? This is the type of man that other man would say has a terrible handshake. No self-confidence, no vitality, no passion. Your patience is legendary.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/21 05:25 AM
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children make all sorts of wild conclusions about things they don't understand. it infuriated me she wasn't told something age appropriate
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/21 02:07 AM
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I'm having trouble pasting the post here. tl;dr Intellectual virginity is something libfems tout as morally superior, such as withholding judgment about...anything. It is pressuring girls and women to be naive and open minded to their detriment
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/21 02:05 AM
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Yes, apparently for them deciding what to eat, what movie to watch, etc is too hard. They roll over and pretend like you are "forcing" them to do everything you want, even when you beg them to tell you what they would want. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 04:14 PM
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Exactly. Exposure to pornography IS a form of trauma for many. People who experience trauma can choose one of two paths: not repeating the trauma or repeating the trauma. These men literally were handed over media justifying their decisions
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 04:08 PM
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Very well put. It chills me to the bone how depravity is not just analyzed (maybe too much) on crime shows, but literally being glorified by the masses via porn and other media. BDSM is just futher away from the other extreme of psychopathic behavior
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 04:04 PM
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The crimson flag of unsolicited reassurance :( I am so sorry that happened to you. Huge wtf
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 06:13 AM
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I remember being so naive/confused about sex talk in the beginning. I used to mistake it for confidence, being REALLY attracted to me, decisiveness, etc. Why did this happen? Because the dates with men who were respectful tended to reveal someone milquetoast, indecisive about what to do on a date, poor at conversation, awkward, had zero chemistry with me, and would treat me in almost a platonic way. And the latter category of guys did not even guarantee lasting respect, so there was nothing to g…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 06:10 AM
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Wait, you mean eggplant size is NOT more important than respecting women as people? Color me shocked, femcels (obvious /s)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 06:00 AM
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Definitely-- in their twisted minds it is you "giving them permission" if you stay. Then if you complain when he "reverts" (or never stopped), he can say "but you knew who I was!😏" gross.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 04:42 AM
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I hope so. I don't even advertise that because guaranteed there are sick men who get off on degrading vanilla women nonconsensually...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 04:32 PM
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Bumble makes women do even more emotional labor for men. But IIRC, isn't there a section for businesses and friendship? Hard eye roll 🙄🙄🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 04:25 PM
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🤢 Wishy washy. I cannot deal with that type, who forces you to do all the emotional labor and make decisions (plus the risk he will pout if you don't mind-read what he wants). It's like a passive aggressive 13 year old in a grown man's body 🤢🤢🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 04:24 PM
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To me it reeks of desperation and also him not even liking/preferring you much in the first place. To me, if a man really likes me, he will know immediately.. If he is worth my time, he will have the confidence and strength to go after what he wants. I think scenarios like you and I describe are a way for men to manipulate ("oh, we were coworkers and I was too shy to talk talk you, but look how much I want you! Our connection is MeAnT tO bE. Come Netflix and Chill and maybe you can be a potentia…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 04:22 PM
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Hinge ads claiming it's a relationship app-- lol! A joke. It is fboy paradise. Time wasters, penpals, and low effort
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 02:57 AM
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Agreed. I think another likely scenario is they want easy tail, even if it could risk their professional/workplace/school interactions. I would see it as a sign of disrespect, as fboys notoriously chat online then ignore the same women in public.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 02:49 AM
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It's amazing how LVM and NVM can easily ruin kissing. Kissing too hard, cutting off your oxygen, cold clammy flappy lips, drooling (refusing to swallow their damn saliva), poor hygiene, nonconsensual hickeys, and sadly even violence now... I simply didn't kiss many boyfriends past a certain age, they just seemed progressively worse and worse since my late teens/early 20s...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/21 04:12 PM
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They are so disingenuous, they pretend it's the same as religious people getting feelings of shame for random sexual feelings (not saying that it is right, it is a shame and just natural biology). There is a huge difference between accepting natural urges/fantasies and literally brainwashing yourself to be aroused by more and more extreme scenarios. Men who want pornified scenarios act like they are just super high testosterone or super sexual, when their neckbeard aesthetic, inability to be ful…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/21 03:56 PM
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It's so gross! I remember so many cringeworthy dates where the men told me they really believed whatever rough, lumbering, bumbling thing people did in porn were actually pleasurable to women. No Jake, if you touch a woman like you're using a nail scrubber, you will have a very bad time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/21 03:53 PM
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Prudes united 😎
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/21 03:30 PM
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On point. Sure, there are unrealistic romance fantasies of a man having infinite expendable income, riding in on a white steed, mind reading, etc. But what women want from said novels is to feel wanted, to be seen, and a man to love them for who they are. The largest flaws of romance novels and movies, IMO, are the nice guy and bad boy tropes, and the other garden varieties of LVM/NVM behavior leading to a good partner. I hate "banter" when the man negs a woman, and the male-catered "romance mov…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/21 10:41 AM
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I'm so grateful you're out of there. According to handbook rules there is no such thing as MVM. Your ex sounds at least LVM, possibly NVM. I think women are so conditioned by the "strong silent type who is super deep" narrative we do not see cold, withholding men for who they really are (people who don't like us, or don't like women period). On the flipside, you have New Age/Emo/Softboi trope from at least the 90s, where a man pretends to be empathetic and in touch with emotions, but SURPRISE, h…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/21 05:34 AM
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Right, and like someone else commented, she is handing LVM the road map of the bare ass minimum (if they even read the profile 🙄)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/21 06:30 PM
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Yes, not to mention (less importantly) listing what you do not want makes you appear bitter and humorless like the 40-something "separated" scrotes trolling for 19 year olds...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/21 06:27 PM
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I tend to think along the lines of this too, but also I heard men who cold-approach women (with no sign of interest from her) are PUA types who don't care if the women are attracted to them 🤷🏻‍♀️. I'll be damned before I throw myself at a man, regardless
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/21 08:14 PM
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Love this. So, from your perspective, do you believe in the coquettish eye contact-and-smile from across the room strategy? (to get a man to approach in a setting)? Or do you think it is best to act oblivious to men in such a setting and wait for them to cold approach?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/21 02:25 PM
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Exactly. I saw this energy everywhere on OLD. Men who were lazy and not excited to take me out. It is such a turnoff. Be a man, be decisive, be masculine, and PURSUE what you want! If it is not me, fine, but don't waste my time with this milquetoast crap
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/21 01:15 AM
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You mean the overuse of exclamation points doesn't make someone look enthusiastic and down-to-earth? 😋 (To be fair, I have to curb it myself when I send texts). But yeah I was very turned off by his overly casual tone here :/ it sounds like two old university mates catching up
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/21 01:04 AM
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Exactly, and I was not attracted to the idea of fixing him (I would have preferred him just being "normal") but I felt I had to tolerate more and use a delicate approach. I was worried about him trusting me, how I could show him love after his mother failed him, etc. He was like a "timid forest creature" (Chumplady.com term lol)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/12/21 06:58 AM
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That story was a doozy. Some people called it, I think others were (unjustly) accusing you of having a disproportionate anxiety reaction paired with his inappropruate behavior. Such a thing is immediate "dump" territory...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/12/21 06:55 AM
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"Detached sex" 🤢 I remember thinking I was anxiously attached for so long. But being shamed for normal things I wanted in a relationship was just how toxic these men were. I do wonder if they were actually avoidant attached or something. Eta: them saying "I love you" then later "gees, I didn't think you would be so attached to me" when you expect normal warmth/communication and try to Pickme into their hearts
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/12/21 06:44 AM
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Brilliant post!! Mind = blown. Notice how there is little difference (if any) compared to a man who simply doesn't like you and is using you as a placeholder. Or maybe even some similarities to a person who has a condition and does not seek help (but instead uses it to manipulate). So ladies, attachment style does not matter (leave that to the pros) if he does not give you what you need. If he doesn't make you feel special and cherished, he is not it. The thing that matters is you are trying to …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/12/21 06:32 AM
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I think I understand what you are trying to say, but IMO red flags ARE deal-breakers. Like your article's analogy, where there is one red flag, there are usually 20 more hiding and waiting... As for accepting criminal history or not, I am aware of the possibility some HVW here may have had a criminal history themselves and leveled up/otherwise changed their lives for the better. But any HVW gets to have whatever standards she wants and is entitled to assess the situation. If it feels dangerous, …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/21 03:42 AM
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Dating is supposed to be fun. If it isn't, the man isn't worth it. Your friends have no idea what FDS is IMO.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/21 02:20 PM
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I think one thing you're missing is giving more credit to your gut instinct. Pickmeism is harder than FDS because it is forcing you to overlook red flags, force a situation with no chemistry, etc. FDS simply verbalizes the things a lor of us deep down knew were not "okay," but society (including other pickme women) gaslit us into accepting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/21 02:19 PM
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it's my first relationship that isn't filled with abusive red flags left and right Being in relationships with shitty blokes makes slightly less shitty blokes look like magnanimous gentlemen. I feel a little confused as to how good of a judge of character I really am sometimes. How about comparing it to standards for yourself? Would you say there is a risk of harm to yourself if you keep a potential life partner at a set of lower bahvioral/moral standards? (Obviously not saying to change, mould,…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/21 04:32 AM
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Honestly he strikes me as at least LV (maybe NV down the road), and is going to have a LV effect on your self-esteem IMO. Your intuition is right. He knows what he is doing, and you know there is disrespect/fakers of morals here. . Next time, when you vet men, make sure you ask them open-ended questions and remain vague about what you are looking for. If you ask "yes/no" questions or ones with the obvious "right" answer, it makes it much easier for a man to play you. His passive reciprocation/fa…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/21 04:27 AM
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Yes, young women become stuck in the bind of "you're a withholding bitch If you don't have sex with your boyfriend/a date/someone you're not attracted to" but also "your value decreases when your body count increases." I mean what?? 🤯 So the women are left confused, and the men come in with these strange madonna-whore complexes, porn-induced ED, and strange expectations of porny acrobatic sex. We didn't stand a chance before FDS and adjacent type of advice...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/21 04:07 AM
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Few things turn me off faster than a neg. It's another example of a man typecasting you and trying to fit you into a caricature rather than treating you with the same respect and care be gives to himself. I have gotten the "I usually prefer [type of woman that is not like me]." It's disgusting.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/11/21 03:29 AM
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"They're right not to pick you" YES, my heart sings! Stay mad, bros 😇 (EDIT: yes, the rest is imperfect. But that singular phrase was fantastic)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/11/21 03:02 AM
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I think OP is saying sometimes we get men who make us feel good most of the time, but sometimes there are things we can gloss over more easily than others (such as the 2% nagging at our intuition). I can definitely say I have met men who were LV/NV and presented themselves to be kinder/more competent etc than they actually were, and the disrespect was not obvious to me (obviously this was pre- FDS). Things that should have been unacceptable were shrugged off in my mind because of the charm/high …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/11/21 01:49 PM
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Certainly it is a challenge, with imperfect solutions. But OLD for many has been high risk, low reward. Seeing the same old fish in the sea nobody wanted to catch, creepy profiles, poor hygiene, and serial killer death stares in selfies? shudder If OLD had an abundance of seemingly well-adjusted men who look like they shower, work full time and get haircuts, I would be more willing. But in my experience, most of the profiles are men who seem to be in need of serious help, not a girlfriend. Like …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/11/21 06:34 AM
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One of the hardest pills to swallow was learning LVM/NVM will not listen to "teaching" about how they hurt you or why you cried, etc. They just see you putting in the effort of interacting with them and think "she likes me," "she's crazy obsessed with me and a psycho," or "she's mad at me for no reason and a psycho." These types of men IMO would not surprise me if they overlapped it with "I dunno why she stopped talking to me/yelled at me bro, she just went CRAZY out of nowhere!" Ladies are such…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/11/21 06:26 AM
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They sound like they have one or more of the following: not read the handbook, overenthusiasm, remaining pickme/libfem brainwashing, youth/Immaturity, etc. More than anything, FDS is such a new, radical mindset compared to everything else out there. Other sources may hint at what we say, but we clearly, unapologetically advocate for maximum female benefit. It is a different way of thinking about your entire life, especially if you have identified with man-pleasing goals and pickme behaviors. Eve…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/11/21 06:12 AM
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Imagine American ladies going on a sex strike (especially against hookups) if that happened. Blokes would be big mad
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/11/21 11:15 PM
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Could you tell us a bit more about the microexptessions? That sounds very interesting
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/11/21 08:28 PM
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Ew, nooo 😱
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/21 03:02 AM
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There is a huge difference. The word "shallow" is weaponized by women turned off by physical/moral/personality traits of certain men. You are not a rehab center for a broken man. It is literally impossible to "fix" someone into being attractive to you, nor are you supposed to assume responsibility for whether or not you feel turned off by someone. It benefits the patriarchy, the beauty industry, your jealous friends/family, and LVM/NVM benefit. ETA: this top definition is a good example of what …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/11/21 02:56 AM
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These posts about him get worse and worse!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/21 02:35 PM
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He is projecting hard, pretending she will be the one to dump him in 2-3 years. The more I read it, the more ick I feel lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/21 02:31 PM
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Get new friends and put people you must have in your life (including family members) on an information diet about your dating life. You deserve to have only the relationship you want, and they are coming from a sad, misguided place if they are telling you to settle for someone who gives you the ick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/21 02:30 PM
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YES! I am so excited for this. You ladies have gone above and beyond to get incredible guests 🥰😍🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/21 02:25 PM
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The ick can be triggered by anything unattractive for me (hygiene issues, character, smell, etc). It NEVER gets better. If you start getting the ick, run don't walk.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/21 03:07 PM
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I think a lot of the times the neutral "friend" will see "something" (accurate or not) he relates to in the abuser. So, I think he pre-emptively defends the friend in order to absolve himself of anything that can be seen (or twisted to look like) anything resembling the friend). That, or simply he tends not to believe women, or how frequently DV happens, or how many men are abusive. These men can be naive (or over-empathizing with a random dude) to the point of danger.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/21 02:52 PM
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He is not your friend. What happened was bad enough, but he sounds like he is operating under the "just world" or "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" fallacies. You do what you feel is best, but honestly I would block this "friend." At best he is naive to the point of invalidating your feelings, at worst he doesn't think what the guy did was "that bad" and maybe you were "exaggerating" 🙄 F÷ck that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/21 06:56 AM
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Before FDS, I was so naive. I would see male depravity over and over, and my general standards for men fell knowing how bad it is out there. FDS allows us to keep our standards high no matter what. No more double standards for men and women's morality!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/21 09:21 PM
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rotten bar of soap in your shower 💀💀💀 When a sad, dusty 3-in-1 wash gel looks good in comparison, the bar is in Hell.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/21 03:03 PM
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A couple things. For this man, I did not have a pre-date phone call or video chat with him, so I had no idea what his "vibe" would be. Other reasons why women PickMe for men they don't fancy: 1) society shaming us for liking attractive men 2) propaganda in the media of the following tropes: A) conventionally unattractive/obese/sloppily dressed/poorly groomed man with the modelesque wife (who likely starves herself, exercises like crazy, dyes her hair, shaves, wears makeup, and gets "tweaks" like…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/21 02:17 AM
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It was so boring, and yet I didn't feel good enough. It was so messed up!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/21 01:53 AM
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When I grew up, I was taught to do this as a protective mechanism so men wouldn't try things on me, or guilt-trip me? I see where they came from and still do give my 50/50 cash if the date is a bust and I never want to see them again.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/21 01:52 AM
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I'm sorry. It's so messed up LVM always expect us to bend backwards then get bored. And it's not like society is always telling them to settle down with partners below their standards of attractiveness and character. They just take everything for granted.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/21 01:50 AM
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I have much worse than this, but this one comes to mind: Years ago, I met a very successful bloke (think very prestigious career) on a dating app. Enjoy the numbered pickme behaviors below: I traveled 45+ minutes to meet him halfway. 🤡 I didn't feel a connection, and the date felt a bit like a job interview, like I actually was worried I wasn't good enough for him. 🤡 He was relatively handsome, his job was impressive and for a good cause, and he was nice to me. But it didn't seem like he actuall…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/09/21 03:18 PM
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I respect that. You can also look at posts by tags to avoid "Male Depravity" and the others. Take what helps and leave the rest
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/08/21 02:05 PM
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I see where you're coming from and respect if you don't want to view the content. For me, I think it is important to have (restrained) reminders of male depravity like the Johns and the warnings about NVM seeing single moms on OLD to access children. My view is, obviously not all men. But, vetting much be continuous. We only have so much proof how "good" a man is when he wants to sleep with us. When they tell you the worst right away, it's a gift. The slick ones can hide for months. It only take…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/08/21 05:20 AM

NSFW tag added due to triggering/violent content.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/08/21 03:12 AM
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"Wait, you mean it's not just a piece of paper? Why don't we just have a sPiRiTuAl ceremony? Babe, our love is ever-present, it's in the wind, the rustling grass, the sun, the moon, the stars, and my crystal collection. But no I am not putting a crystal on your finger-- think meta and hIgH vIbrAtIoNs" 😋
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/21 08:29 PM
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🥰🥰🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/21 08:26 PM
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Gosh, I had a first (and only) date with such a LVM when I first started with FDS. Darling, he was SO HOT. Literally my physical type in every which way, I loved everything about how he looked. But, many things during that strange conversation determined his personality was enough for me to be sort of turned off. I was frustrated but ceased communication civilly. However it taught me not to forego attraction like I have before then, because how would I sustain a long term relationship or marriag…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/21 08:24 PM
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There are so many misogynistic cultural myths shouldering the responsibility on us, with none of the power. Keep your head high, because you know you deserve someone who meets your values and standards. ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/21 04:33 PM
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I'm so sorry. I hope he has been excised completely from your life. Wishing you healing, love and happiness ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/21 04:30 PM

It tickles me how many angry men are commenting. They can easily spend £100s to £1000s on their gaming systems, computers, chairs, headsets, sport betting, and "adult entertainment." But apparently dropping a few hundreds or thousands on their life partner, the women they supposedly love enough to "pick" over anyone else, is too much. Listen up blokes: we're not saying you have to do anything. But if you are getting butthurt because someone else's man decided to be a generous provider, maybe it'…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/21 04:14 PM
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https://youtu.be/5xnPAAVlNIc I immediately thought of posting this here when I saw this 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/21 03:54 AM
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Sounds like Madonna-whore complex and/or nonconsent fetish? You dodged a huge bullet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/08/21 01:42 AM
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I want this embroidered on a throw pillow ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/08/21 01:35 PM
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It's so annoying when they "reset" the conversation like that. I think it's manipulation or laziness tbh. It's almost dehumanizing, like they get to press the button and start over whenever, and previous conversations didn't exist. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/08/21 12:32 PM
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Imagine being publicly humiliated like that and showing it to everyone "as a joke." I mean, who here has ever even thought of telling their partner something like that? It is disturbing how he seems to proudly display NVM behavior.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/08/21 12:31 AM
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That second comment is so hateful and bitter. And we wonder why so many women have imposter syndrome 🤔. Good for you dumping him so fast
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/08/21 03:02 PM
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Yes. One of the biggest Pickme lies is "a man will change for the right woman." In actuality, the lesson for dating LVM is "don't." Boundaries will save you incredible time and energy, and LVM can literally be energy and joy vampires.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/08/21 02:26 PM
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I 100% agree with your take as well as the points from the person's comment you replied to. I think we just do not have enough information. For instance, is being "mean" and "making him miserable" something like snapping briefly, once in a blue moon (tone, not insults) and immediately apologizing after? Example being OP wanting to say "I can't help you with that right now, sorry babe" but snapping with "I can't!! Ack!" And apologizing immediately after (and keeping these things infrequent). Anot…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/08/21 02:06 PM
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I was also going to day this. Not saying this is the case for OP, but sometimes a woman in an abusive relationship acts "crazy" (sad/snappy for seemingly no reason, etc) because her man is doing the frog in Boling water or death by 1000 cuts routine. Someone abusing and gaslighting a woman often wants her and her friends/family to disregard her thoughts, emotions, opinions because she is "cRaZy" and "henpecking this PoOr gUy." Next thing you know, a little investigation shows systematic emotiona…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/08/21 01:02 PM
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I had 0 self esteem then and anyone who did the tiniest kind thing I’d think they were sooooo amazing and HV. When you get out of the relationship (and living situation) and build yourself back up, you might start remembering signs of him not actually being a HVM. Great points. This is exactly what I was thinking. I wonder what OP meant when she said she was being "mean" to him? Is being "mean" actually being mean, or not doing something he wants? To be fair, I don't think even a HVM necessarily…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/08/21 04:19 AM
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This comment eloquently listed every reason why I have not gone on OLD recently, nor otherwise "sought" a man. It can wait. I'm open to it but I'm not going to modify my lifestyle for the purpose of "finding" a partner. No. Literally every point rings true for me: the lack of attraction, the "nice" guy who is bitter about a lack of casual sex, a man's shallow connection and lack of respect, likely lack of financial benefits, and ultimate draining of my life force. I honestly feel reluctant to sh…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/08/21 02:09 PM
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Brilliant. I would love for the podcast to invite a social psychology expert to talks about these potential warning signs, and explain how these men literally become radicalized. Further, how men in this position are at dire risk of harming themselves and others. They are already harming themselves and the women in their lives with such ideas. This is a largely unexamined/undetected public health crisis escalating over time IMO, like p()rn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/08/21 04:09 AM
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I saw a man claiming women "choose" to have periods because birth control hormones can stop periods as an option. As if naturally bleeding is not the default 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/08/21 03:39 AM
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Edit: link removed out of respect for Dr Ramani's policy not to have her videos linked to support a claim.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/21 06:57 AM
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Right? Typically enablers of "neutrality" can go multiple ways. Specific to this video, these neutral people mind-f*** by telling you "yaaay everyone had good intentions! You're just overthinking it." Another way (and in other content) they gives this pretense of "both sides are wrong" or "both sides are equally valid" in LVM/NVM situations. "Yes, he was stingy/mean/abusive/neglectful/etc but you were instigating/too sensitive/overreacting/let him do it/attracted negative energy."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/21 03:41 AM
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Context: Dr. Ramani tends to focus on behavior from narcissists and how to heal/avoid them. I am grateful she posted something a bit different: this amazing video on how other people in a social group can enable a narcissist. "Flying monkeys" and other enablers use toxic positivity as another way to gaslight, invalidate feelings, and make women feel crazy/mean/paranoid. These people who enable NVM/LVM behavior may be family, friends, mutual friends, his family, his friends, coworkers, people who…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/21 01:54 AM
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Copied and Pasted "Rules of Misogyny" (Emphasis mine for the parts applying to men blaming FDS for this. Spoiler alert, it is most of them): 1. Women are responsible for what men do. 2. Women saying no to men is a hate crime. 3. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish. 4. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified. 5. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless. Women who go around being female AT men by menstrua…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/08/21 01:15 AM
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It's literally a society wide "it's not what I did, it's your reaction to it" and they pretend our reaction is just as bad or worse. We're not even brigading and taunting them in their spaces like they do to us. We're literally discussing among ourselves how it is uncool and how to protect ourselves. Literal madness. It's like saying a lion eating a human is the same or not as bad as humans saying we shouldn't hang out in cages with lions, because they might eat us 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/08/21 05:53 PM
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I have a bunch of them. I could have sworn I read one post in particular that deconstruct the five love languages and all the problematic things with the author. I will do some digging. ETA: The post linked to this article. https://medium.com/blunt-therapy/the-bigot-who-wrote-the-5-love-languages-hates-you-e2f65771a1c0 I'm frustrated I can't find the post LOL
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/08/21 01:03 PM
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This is true. Society protects abusers (essentially burying their head in the sand and pretending abuse doesn't exist) like a friend group protects a "missing stair" friend.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/21 02:19 AM
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Also good to know thanks! I'm either at work or "everyman" places like the petrol station, lower end department store, food store, etc. Not really upscale places. I think social clubs and hobby groups could help, maybe
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/21 02:05 AM
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Exactly. Being anything but myself is exhausting, and it is freeing to know I wasn't even being "myself" when I felt an internal pressure to praise a man for every little thing, lest he stops doing it. (They stopped anyway, lol)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/21 02:03 AM
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Agreed. I like being a ball of sunshine and making others feel good, so the idea of dimming my light to vet a scrote makes me feel sad. But, looking at it from a different way, a man is not entitled to access my sweet side right away. He does not get my smile, my warmth, my company unless he shows respect. I do not believe in praising someone effusively for doing the bare minimum ("omg baby you showered, thank you!"), nor acting overly impressed by a man's own life choices (e.g. the car). It nev…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/21 02:48 AM
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This is exactly it. There was a podcast on the Federalist (of all places) criticizing the Gen Z hookup culture, and basically the men are mad because today they expect all women to say "yes" to hookups. Decades ago, women said "no" to hookups because the man was not offering stability and commitment. Now, because women are expected to say yes, men are especially mad they get rejected when they don't "have" to provide the financial/relationship benefits for sex like they used to. It's sad how the…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/21 02:22 AM
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This is an excellent point. Why should someone in a romantic context be given the benefit of the doubt, especially because men can change on a dime in a romantic context. This includes strangers, acquaintances, and male friends of years. Women are told to be loyal and compliant, and any uneasiness we feel around a man is being "judgey" or blamed on our own "negative thoughts." 😬😬😬 Something is very wrong with out culture that women are defaulted to be blamed in pretty much all aspects of dating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/21 02:19 AM
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Out of curiosity, was this a male or female therapist?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/08/21 02:14 AM
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I immediately noticed that too. "Safe" + Giant Gun Image 😂 Imagine if that was the actual original picture from the first version of this meme/post 🙈
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/21 06:57 AM
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I needed this, thank you ❤ I rarely if ever get approached, but I don't frequent bars and such. I think being off OLD has been the best decision for me . I cannot center my life and leisure activities around meeting men anymore.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/21 06:01 AM
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I noticed the "normal," bare minimum men I went on first dates with (OLD) seemed like a catch in some ways. Some were really good looking and they claimed to have decent careers. Great on paper. But, there was this awkwardness and lack of warmth, lack of romance. Most would be polite, but I basically felt like a friend. With OLD being so bad, this is how I decided to "just pick one" and "they can't all be that bad" and "maybe I'm Too picky." If I continued it with some of these men, the treatmen…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/21 05:19 AM
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It's so sad. Chances are her bf has negged her and compared her to the friend ("your friend is more my type" or "why don't you do your makeup like the friend" and the like)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/08/21 04:08 AM
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In other news, water is wet and the same shit has been happening since at least 10 years ago. However, I am heartened a mag like the Daily Mail even posted this story. That being said, I don't know why, but has anyone noticed messages for teens often say "you are worth the wait" and "don't do anything that makes you uncomfortable," while adult women are told they're SOL and need to Pickme dance/be kinky?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/21 05:30 AM
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There's a false "both sides" narrative some libfems/antifems follow, because they only have a shallow knowledge about how deep the man0sphere hates us, and twists any data to fit their narrative.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 04:02 PM
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I hate the apps and refuse to try Bumble. Hinge and CoffeeMeetsBagel are bad enough with low-effort men, even if they seem to have good careers. It's always a catch somewhere, between inflated egos, lack of interest, lack of effort, and ultimately low T men
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 03:54 PM
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A lot are so deluded they hope to get vagina pics back. "Well if I send this, she will reciprocate with that I want!"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 03:52 PM
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And it was framed as a "joke." "Don't go on omegle/chatroulette bc of pedophiles teehee!" WHY do we have direct pipelines from children to predators? And WHY are parents so damn lenient and purposefully ignorant of the internet? So many boomer parents (based on the millennial and Gen Z men who have bragged about the depravity they have seem online) have let down their children and led lambs to the slaughter. Worse, these lambs can become wolves themselves by excusing and normalizing the depravit…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 03:51 PM
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Yes, the law has not caught up to technology, and technology allows men of all ages to act like the stereotypical man in the park flashing under his trenchcoat. Our current laws and messed up culture indirectly empower r/-\pists, p_dophiles, and other men who commit/plan predatory, sexually violent acts. I hate it here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 03:49 PM
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LOL @ this post being reported for "hate." Yes Kyle, apparently not wanting to see unsolicited pictures of your little caterpillar is "hate." Stay mad 🤷🏻‍♀️🤏
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 03:46 PM
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Exactly. Unfortunately law of attraction and other new age principles can be very victim blame-y, as if children with cancer "manifested" it on themselves. 🙄 Utter horse drivel from scared people trying to judge others to make sense of this world. The world inherently makes no sense a lot of the time, and adults need to deal with it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 03:44 PM
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"Please do 🙏" = pure savagery and I am here for this energy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 03:42 PM
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It's woo stuff peddled by pickmes IMO. You can be extroverted, quirky, chipper, etc and still receive this feedback from someone who doesn't understand you. It's basically the "common denominator" problem: "it's not a societal problem with men, misogyny, a cultural trend or a subculture. You are the common denominator, thus you are the bad one and to solely blame for getting attention from NVM/no attention at all" It's magical thinking and victim-blaming so pickmes won't escape the cognitive dis…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/08/21 06:30 AM
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I told him no thank you, but I appreciated it (I gave an excuse that I wasn't ready for dating after a recent breakup). He was really pleasant and understood.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/07/21 11:59 PM
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Eww, someone squash it with a tissue 🤢😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/07/21 06:53 PM
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😂 right? "Sis, why do you hate me?"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/07/21 02:58 PM
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It's a gross trope for sure, and fosters false hope women will "win" love, trust, openness, honesty, or just plain niceness from some emotionally constipated, withholding dude who chose to date someone he hated. Sigh
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/07/21 02:57 PM
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Men know. Had a man in a service job say he liked my look, and and "I would like to take you to dinner." It's not that hard!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/07/21 02:47 PM
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I think with higher education, many underachieving LVM just don't ask or care. It's as if someone said they had crisps with lunch 🙄. Like the education/career thing is so far removed from what they do, they pretend it doesn't exist, or "oh she has a job like me, whatever." Bro, do you even SEE she trained and scraped and sacrificed time for that career? How her job has meaning to her? I think when LVM/NVM see a woman as a means to an end, they will try to exploit a woman's job/education, or simp…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/07/21 01:13 PM
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Yes, this is exactly the bullshit we are told! You wrote it so eloquently. And in so many subreddits with "advice," there is indeed a pressure for women to spill whatever in hopes someone will "pick" her in spite of all her "flaws." Like excuse me, having something bad happen to you, not lashing out at innocent people, and feeling wary about it happening to you is not a claim it's literally added wisdom and pain (which of course can be addressed in therapy if it affects someone negatively inside…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/07/21 05:25 AM
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I'm sorry to use such strong language, but your man is acting like a fucking monster. He is dangerous to you and your daughter. He never was entitled to put his hands on you, and it seems doubly atrocious he would injure your head when you already have a neurological condition. Please call The Hotline or LoveisRespect.org when you are guaranteed to be alone (not even your kids around). And please do seek medical help for your injuries. I am worried things will escalate. :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/07/21 05:03 AM
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You don't have to fo back to meaningless sex to have a connection. As an internet stranger with no idea what is going on in your therapy sessions, i urge you to use caution with new people you trust with your story. Obviously your therapist has the law/ethics, but you are always always always justified not spilling everything to someone you meet right away, within a short amount of time, when casually dating. It's is much healthier to get to know someone over time and observe their character. If…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/07/21 02:32 PM
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But I "gave him a chance" because my dating history had been so bad prior to him. I had always attracted F boys and players. In my hamster wheel mind I thought if I dated someone who was nothing like anyone from my past, it might be different. Exactly! "Your trauma makes you attracted to bad boys and chaos!" Or "your attachment style is insecure" or "you're afraid of love" types of sentiments get thrown at us. We buy into the gaslighting and start gaslighting ourselves. "Oh no, I'm not attracted…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/07/21 05:28 AM
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Akinyi is that you? (From 90 Day Fiance) 😂🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/21 11:00 PM
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I read your comment as "gamer sympathy" for a second there 😆
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/07/21 06:16 PM
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There are multiple dealbreaker red flags here: 1) he lied on his OLD profile 2) he is getting snippy about you "dating other men," but what is he doing to prove he is worth the commitment? 3) texting all day everyday-- what about his job? 4) hooking up early on before the 3+ month vetting period is over 5) he has a mantrum when you want to establish boundaries I would recommend not holding out the "friends" option for men who lose your interest. He sounds like the average clingy entitled LVM. He…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/07/21 04:03 AM
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Excellent point! I'm flabbergasted that many men engineered this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 10:57 PM
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Thank you for clarifying.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 12:44 PM
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I think she meant she told him to "just tell her" if he wanted to cheat or leave. The thing is, you can be the most reasonable person and lay things out on the table as she did, but cheaters will break the trust anyway. Exhibit A: "Poly" people who still manage to cheat. Being the most "reasonable" person in the world will unfortunately not prevent cheating. Truly, OP seemed to be asking for good character (not to cheat in the first place) and having to ask will not affect it. He was going to do…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 05:02 AM
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You didn't do anything "wrong" per se. According to your post and comments, you assumed this man was better than he was and compromised on your typical standards. Unfortunately the long distance probably helped to give him plausibility. As the other commenters astutely commented, this man was not HVM, and looking back at where you were lenient allows you to further tighten those standards and live your life even better. I am incredibly grateful you still have your schooling and at least some sup…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 04:58 AM
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Thank you 🥰🥰🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 04:52 AM
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You described it so eloquently, yes! IIRC, Hayley Williams did say she was very young when she wrote Misery Business. But yes, it was subtle brainwashing to make us compete with other girls, I think. "I'm a cool edgy alt girl! It's my destiny to get picked! I'll be a sweet plucky duck Zooey Deschanel type of chick + Ellen Page humor, and hope that underachieving stoner sk8erboy likes me too! (updates MySpace page and agonizes over the song to choose on my page) WHAT IS HE GOING TO NOTICE?" 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 04:51 AM
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The link is not working for me, but goodness that is early A.D. negging! How things have not changed for the better 😬😬😬 ETA: I see he is considered "stoic" on Wikipedia. Disappointing. All the nice things from that era seem to be paired with a dash of misogyny, as usual. ETA 2: Interesting take here: https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/77983/11-tips-ovid-how-get-over-breakup what do you think?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 04:41 AM
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Removed to protect your privacy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/07/21 02:02 AM
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Sadly so many men delight in seeing us hurt or offended and sometimes literally get off to it. No explanations, no pleading. Block and delete
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/07/21 01:51 AM
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If that isn't the truth! They can be like a drug: completely destructive, but our minds often glamorize them into something they're not. When a "relationship" is a turd, all the wishing and metallic spray paint won't turn it into a gold nugget.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/07/21 01:49 AM
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If you don't love yourself, you will be stuck in one crappy relationship or situationship after another. Deborrah Cooper's 7/20 show here talks about it https://youtu.be/pXH-UIwI7aw . Her advice is sometimes tough to swallow, and I do not agree with everything (e.g. telling people off), but she has so much wisdom. Watching Deb's videos has been very helpful for me. You see Deb's poise? You see how she loves herself? She is proud of herself, and does not apologize ever for her preferences and dea…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/07/21 01:46 AM
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Don't forget this gem of a quote 🤣 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/726722289836892160/KI0pVYnT_400x400.jpg
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/07/21 02:25 AM
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Something has gone incredibly wrong with how we socialize girls to accept so little and compromise attraction for the "prize" of having a man. It is heartbreaking how women will stay in crappy situationships/forever gf/crappy marriages because male attention and the social status of "keeping a man" were apparently more important than female peace of mind. I used to have higher standards when I was very young, but I think abusive men I met IRL, their enablers, and the chorus of pickmes online kin…
/r/askFDS17/07/21 03:29 AM
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It is! It is bad faith advice, because telling these vulnerabilities does not mean other people will "not waste their time." The toxic ones will pump and dump, tell the woman she is broken/unlovable/not "his type," or drag her through a hellish farce of a "relationship" where he tries his best to make her feel small.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/21 03:15 AM
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I'm so sorry that happened to you. I noticed a lot of those comments will sometimes speak in confusing, pseudo-psychological word salad to sound intellectual. In reality, these people may have just been trolling teenagers, rabid Pickmes, or bitter man babies. We were just projecting they were kind sagely people "telling it like it is." Even though I did openly reject some of that advice, I think seeing so much of it made me feel hopeless and fatalistic. Unconsciously, I think I thought "most men…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/21 03:09 AM
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This. In my Pickme past, I would get in trouble because I would think "there possibly couldn't be that many men who would hurt me" (seeing men who looked good on paper via OLD). "They can't all be that bad" LOL. I would just pick a man, even if there was no spark/attraction. And, I noticed OLD took out the fun/romance of dating. I guess Pickme Me was so fatalistic, I just accepted the lack of connection and ended up "working hard" to ... "earn" it? It did not work in the slightest. The men were …
/r/askFDS16/07/21 12:42 PM
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Bingo. It is like a sick religious confession. Reddit does not help, as all the relationship subs say "it's LyInG" if you do not confess everything to your man about your past, which sexual acts you did etc 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/07/21 12:47 PM
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😂 I'm honored!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/07/21 12:33 PM
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I told her what happened and said I just sent the screenshot. She was calm and acted nonchalant saying she "didn't care, he's like that. He says it to everyone." I was appalled. I told her its inappropriate and I won't speak to him or want him hanging around me anymore. The friendship dissolved shortly afterwards. My guess? She has been beaten down so much by his overtly triangulation her against other women to her face, that she has become numb to it. She probably has some denial/cope "all men …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/07/21 04:47 PM
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A very valid point. Either way we can't lose IMO. It's great content I believe should be given to every girl/woman before she starts dating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/07/21 12:44 PM
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The best "revenge" story of living well! Cheers ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/21 02:35 PM
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This was eloquently written and so relatable. I am not having kids, but I am open to marriage and merging finances if the arrangement explicitly benefits me. Look at it this way: marriage (a literal government contact), cohabitation, merging finances, and sexual contact can be a zero sum game. At best, you share your life with another person and solve your problems together. At the worst, you have someone who is a parasite, abusive, or mostly absent when needed. It sounds "cold," but this is my …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/21 06:56 AM
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Hi ladies, excellent job on the podcast. I have to catch up on recent weeks, but the perspective and humor are so refreshing. Suggestions: Can we please host Lundy Bancroft on the podcast? I also would love to learn more about Dr. Jess Taylor's perspectives relative to FDS. Also, can we have an episode about the struggle of choosing an "unpopular" stance, despite it being the best thing for you? And maybe finding other like-minded, nonlibfem friends? A prime example would be a very famous author…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/21 06:32 AM
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Gross how so many men see stated boundaries as an invitation to break them. Btw, I'm following you for radfem mental health insights 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/07/21 11:46 PM
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It's hard because single dads can try to push intimacy too soon, too intense, suggest you meet the kids too fast, etc. It sucks because I don't want to be introduced to his kids, get close to them, then break their hearts because daddy was bored with his new toy and had to throw her away 🙄 . Not to mention the false promises and lack of generosity/lack of dates going out. I wish I could have a community of ladies like you who "get it" IRL
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/07/21 05:37 AM
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Ouch! As someone childfree I sometimes feel like single dads are my only reasonable option for a HVM 😔 child free men are generally LVM/NVM IME because they are selfish and want to be mommied, not because they made a responsible, ethical decision.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/21 10:04 PM
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Sis, you went OFF like I did! This is seriously sickening, gaslighting nonsense. I hate how libfem is a trap for women escaping chauvantistic conservative/religious communities. Women's bodies as private property versus public property. I hate it here. Can we move to Mars yet?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/21 07:03 PM
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Literally all of these are false, if you look at what porn addicts on Reddit say, as well as what their partners say. Copy and paste of the drivel: This isn't his ideal real-life sex. Porn is escapism the same way Once Upon a Time is escapism (except with way more close-ups of balls). Just because he once rubbed one out to anime porn or some fetish you're not into doesn't mean he needs that to get off. Then why do so many men ask women to do freaky things or talk about it so much? It's probably …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/21 06:52 PM
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It makes me sad how women are raised with such a scarcity mindset. It's always having to prepare for sacrificing for some man. 😒
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/21 03:04 AM
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This could have been its own post. Your prose is so impressive. I would love to hear more about your take on other websites/"magazines'/news sources, and if they are down-to-earth or display choosey choice libfem garbage.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/21 02:52 AM
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God forbid he looks at your profile and asks about your interests first to gauge it... A simple "do you like Mexican food? " and subsequent conversation. Then a nice "There is a great place I would like to take you to Friday at 8 o'clock. How does that sound?" (Not hard, my dudes. We are not expecting you to mindread or fling out date ideas)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/21 02:34 AM
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I'm not crying, you're crying! 😢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/07/21 01:07 AM
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I understand what you are saying: don't get carried away and assume he is more deep because you have a physical connection. If I don't have attraction, chemistry, and excitement (not anxiety) with a man, I will not date him. That is part of the fun. There is no point otherwise, because never having that attraction in the beginning means it will never happen IMO. That being said, one can enjoy the infatuation without losing one's mind. See it for what it is. Vet. Don't immediately text back. Do h…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/06/21 01:49 AM
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This is exactly how I felt. And the kicker was, the ones who don't pay still feel entitled to our bodies. The audacity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/06/21 04:04 AM
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Ah, yes I agree. I like how she unapologetically dates who she finds attractive but I wouldn't want to date that young myself. Anna Bey has some good tips for clothes and etiquette, but someone pointed out she has been shady in some ways (e.g. pretending to have a high-profule lifestyle from rich men, but is really from her redundant scams of "classes."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/21 04:36 PM
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I like Shallon Lester, a lot. But I do not agree 100% with her. Great points: A. she has a big heart B. high standards for men, e.g. expecting them to pay on dates/use thoughtful gestures C. is funny D. actively goes to therapy in her own life and admits when she has been wrong E. Promotes self-sufficiency in career/income for women (over depending on a man) F. calls out f-boy games G. has interesting takes on celebrity gossip (even if it's not true) and frames advice to help us non-famous folks…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/21 04:31 PM
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That's an absolutely valid point. I think this is more about exhausting conversations that someone feels obligated to do, and distracts from everyday life. Or making yourself (mentally) available to a f-boy who is demanding all your time and attention but refuses to actually appreciate you or take you out on a date. I'm talking about the men who sometimes literally say "entertain me," and you feel drained afterwards.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/21 04:38 AM
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Thank you! Texting all day is emotional labor. Texting is social isolation with the illusion of "closeness." Years ago, I would get nagged at. "You are so sloooowww" texts when I would take 3 hours to answer. Bruh, I have a life too! And the conversations were often about the most random, inane things. My opinion? We should put the phones down after solid plans to meet friends, family, and potential romantic interests in-person (after any pandemic precautions mandated by your local laws/personal…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/21 04:30 AM
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Thank you for writing this, as the mods are doing our best on a volunteer basis. Great systems with a net "goodness" for the community can have room for continued improvement. FDS apprentices and higher (with fantastic posts and comments) may have comments or posts removed because it simply does not fit in the sub's scope. That is okay. Mods want to make a safe space, not engage in some petty Mean Girls vendetta towards women outside the "circle." Our bottom line is a clear message to women who …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/21 04:26 AM
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Can you please elaborate on what works for you? I would be very interested to hear from your POV (aka, teach me your ways 😹)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/06/21 07:09 AM
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Based. This is the heart and soul of FDS. We cannot expect men to save us or act right, and we need to be ready to walk. Not beg, cajole, coach, convince, or (worse) rationalize to ourselves. We have been brainwashed by big porn and libfem (usually such industries are all about the dollars/euros) to accept double standards. No more. I'm not going to modify my body to a man's taste, dress up to his taste, cater to his twisted violent fantasies, or be the giver mommy mcbangmaid women are expected …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/06/21 05:03 PM
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Wholesome conversation ❤❤❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/06/21 04:46 PM
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I don't enjoy sharing my "nerdy" hobbies with men anymore. So many get haughty and try to denigrate my interests, downplay my knowledge, and/or do something else to shame me for having the audacity to like something related to what they like. What they like to ignore is, women only talk to nerdy men to have fun, relate, and maybe explore the hobby together. Male nerd culture has way too much gatekeeping, resentfulness toward women, obsession with animated female characters, and other toxic aspec…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/06/21 12:38 PM
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Yes, and agreed "teaching" does nothing. Most likely outcomes: 1) it does not undo their disrespect toward us/misogyny 2) they will likely not have a change of heart and become non-misogynistic 3) they will hide their behavior more cleverly for the next girl (and possibly try this exact tactic in a different way) 4) maybe he will act slightly less crappy in the future because the next woman is more assertive and pushes back sometimes. But this woman is also a Pickme, like the later chapters in W…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/06/21 03:49 AM
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This is true. I mistakenly believed I could easily find a decent romantic partner of similar values and beliefs to my family. I'm happier alone with my family. You won't see me with some man who obviously doesn't see my worth.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/05/21 11:15 PM
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FUZZY 🤮🤮🤮 Literally trying not to gag after I read this 😂 I had similar experiences minus the horrible teeth. LVM definitely talk "at" you, try to make you feel as if you are the one competing for him, and use RP tactics to make you feel a false sense of closeness/intimacy. Awful f____boy nonsense. I won't roast you-- I think a lot of us were not prepared nor educated on what disrespect looks like via text/modern dating. Hence why we were so confused. I remember things not sitting right with me,…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/05/21 12:57 PM
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Make a commitment to stop doing things out of a sense of obligation/guilt. Yes, so much this! The entire comment makes amazing points. Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should. OP, you sound so lovely-- remember your presence is a gift. Your company with romantic and platonic folks shouldn't be hinged on how much you do for them, or feeling like you have to earn love by showing you are capable. For self-care, you have a huge advantage by having these skills. You can spend…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/05/21 04:29 PM
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IMO it's because they don't actually use a wash rag or loofah in the shower. Or they just don't use soap. Add in the unwashed towels, and there you have it. ETA: I just showered and this post makes me want to shower again. Memories of men who stunk, even slightly, or whose body chemistry I disliked 🤢. Use a damn wash cloth and wash your towels after one use, please...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/05/21 05:03 AM
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Yes! It's incredible how lazy they have become. Women get bamboozled by the narratives galore: "Don't be a goldigger!"🤬 "He's not wooing you because he is "real"/more intimate/"deep"/etc."🥺 "If you're so high maintenance, he will leave you for someone who gives more and expects less." 😜 "Look at this rom-com: the gorgeous model career-woman left a handsome, successful man for a schlubby man who looks like Adam Sandler or Seth Rogan! Look at how charming he is when he bumbles, says something rude…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/05/21 08:20 PM
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Shallon is fantastic at explaining standards. She does do a bit of libfem (which I strongly disagree with), but the things she is right about? On point.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/05/21 02:56 PM
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This video explains it well: https://youtu.be/YPjXDefYkPc
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/05/21 03:00 AM
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Right? I used to feel so confused and like something was wrong with me in those situations.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/05/21 07:12 PM
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Exactly! Libfem causes us to question our family values and innate protective instincts. It also convinces us to lie to ourselves, e.g. feeling we "should" be happy with subpar arrangements, then fighting tooth and nail to keep them 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/05/21 02:55 PM
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Yes! This was such an insidious process, but it sums up exactly what women have been pressured to do/accept over at least the last 10 years. No wonder why we get burnt out on OLD, slogging through situationships and live-boyfriends, and sitting with our girl friends puzzling over why doesn't he like me or treat me with basic decency? No more!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/05/21 02:54 PM
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She admits to cheating in the past, but says she learned and does not advocate for it now as far as I know. She has a YouTube video on "how to cheat" with the disclaimer it is to help us understand the tactics men use. I find her Girl on Top content much more FDS aligned (generally) than the celeb analysis, though I find those entertaining 😄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/05/21 02:48 PM
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Thank you 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/05/21 02:45 PM
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The audacity! It's a huge waste of time for you. Great job nexting him 👏
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/05/21 03:23 AM
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Right? Apathy from a man is so unattractive. The reason why we Pickme is to regain the passion we thought he had.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 04:09 PM
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LVM: "Read me by my intentions, not my actions! How do you know my intentions were good and I'm not bullsh_tting? Umm... just trust me, ok? Ya Judgy Mcjudgerson 🤡"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 03:52 PM
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Right. It hurts to be rejected, but this person is clearly sufferjng from the flase idea she needs to be "seen" by men to be valid.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 02:56 PM
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Based. And even if he gives a valid apology for something, there are many actions equating to instant dealbreakers in a dating situation. I don't care how much he apologizes if he disrespects me, etc
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 02:55 PM
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Lmao, now now, we saw the reaction to the Gillette ad. 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 02:52 PM
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Yes, and even if all of the points you bring to a man are 100% valid and true, it's going to feel like shit if he 1) apologizes and does it again or 2) invalidates you with all the lovely examples of gaslighting you wrote.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 02:49 PM
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"Destroying" them gives them attention. To them, attention is power. Negative and positive attention are still a benefit to men who mistreat you. They can roll their eyes and call you crazy all they want, but confronting them 1) gives them supply and 2) helps them hide gaslighting better for the next woman. Edit: even if your goal is to "show" a man a message, the best way to do so is block and delete. Indifference. Not having a man on your radar will probably annoy him much more than having a r…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 02:46 PM
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In Pickme world, they are simply the objects of women's projective fantasies 🙄 It's so sad, like women have not moved past the phase of grade school crushes and "he bullies you because he likes you"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 02:43 PM
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Hi OP! I saw your post and thought "👀" immediately. I get where you're coming from, but wanted to give you a healthy reminder there is no way to know if this man is actually lovely or HVM yet. A few dates can easily be performed. I have gone on dates where men were polite and chivalrous (bare minimum) but 1) I could tell they weren't into me or 2) I had an unshakable bad feeling/lack of attraction. I'm going to link you to some similar questions and my responses. It's true attraction might grow,…
/r/askFDS08/05/21 02:37 PM
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Exactly! I think they are convinced they need to "beat the dead horse" to find some sort of lesson. They may think "maybe if I knew why he ghosted, I will have better luck next time." It is a flawed yet common way to think. But, someone who ghosts like this Jesse is very LV. Such a person's opinion simply does not matter.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 05:59 AM
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I know she is controversial to some. She is not 100% FDS-aligned, so of course I do not agree with every single take she makes. But, she was a significant help for me, personally. I tune out all the sex pozzy bs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 05:56 AM
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Redemption arc 😆👌 chef's kiss
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/05/21 05:52 AM
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They know and want to set the tone for the rest of the situationship: degrading sex acts and overall disrespect 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/05/21 04:29 AM
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This one? https://www.npr.org/2011/01/07/132716595/smell-that-sadness-female-tears-turn-off-men
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/05/21 09:57 PM
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Ladies, heed this advice! When you don't tell people what you're looking for, they are more apt to act like themselves and you can vet more effectively. When you leave, no justification is needed. Excuse yourself in a way that makes for a safe exit. Block and delete.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/05/21 04:21 AM
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Lol LVM often like to make your benign life choices look like a personal attack on them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 02:27 PM
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WOW. I have encountered these types of men too. They would get all Bs and Cs but insist on their superiority, and insist how I was "stupid" (overtly or through insinuation) despite outperforming them academically. Also cue the ones who talk up a huge future career but never take steps toward it. Mind you, they act like they already have the high-powered career. Can delusion also be a pandemic? 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 02:17 PM
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R_dp1ll or some other m@n0sphere community once wrote a triggered post about women and scented candles. ❗David Futrelle mocked them, of course.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 01:37 PM
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Yes, LVM/NVM often hate small dogs and joke about kicking them 🤬
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 01:34 PM
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Wtf? In my culture, nobody talks about shaving their arms. This whole comment was a ride. 🤭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 01:29 PM
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Right? I would want someone who knows he is attractive and has options yet chooses to be with me .
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 01:25 PM
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Please spill the tea on the yam guy 🙏
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 01:24 PM
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"Scrotal" 😂🤣😂🤢😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 01:21 PM
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That's pathetic. Some get so insecure and say "you're actually kind of [smart/funny/etc.]!" as if they were expecting you to be an airhead. 🥱
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 03:58 AM
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Ooof, that one hits hard. My interests were always "stupid," or they would act cold if I dared to speak about them. I remember a cashier at a CD store negged me about my music as I was buying it. I should have walked out.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/05/21 03:56 AM
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I'm so glad you wrote about this side of the coin. I'm not sure if Anfisa was ever proven to be doing "sex work" in the actual episodes, but the point stands. I had another impression as well. Anfisa has gotten a lot of hate for hitting Jorge in their first season, and keying his car. Obviously I do not condone it. Given he had 100+ pounds on her, I don't think any physical damage was done, but obviously it's never OK and may have been emotionally damaging. But she did a complete 180 on their HE…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/05/21 09:22 AM
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Brilliant. Also adding, many if not most boundary violations the first time point to the man being one of the 3 options. Such a man needs to be dumped asap.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/05/21 04:04 PM
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This is awesome advice. I would love for someone to write a post about common things men say after abusing alcohol/drugs then flaking out on plans. The coded language is fascinating, even though the result is the same (he's not that interested and acting irresponsible).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/05/21 03:59 PM
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Right? Dating used to be having a fun, exciting connection with someone. As a pickme experiencing this crap, it was an unpaid job of feeling unworthy of men I didn't even like that much, and hoping things would "grow" if I made myself "desirable" enough. Never again!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/05/21 03:57 PM
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Yes! That is a great way to describe it. When I was new to FDS, I learned how overly accommodating actions like this were sabotaging me in the first place (and why). It was so helpful. I did what I did in the past because I assumed men and women had similar mindsets, and an equal playing field aside from a few extremists and certain subcultures. I also thought being accommodating (read: doormat) was seen as feminine and desirable by men. Unfortunately it sent the false message of desperation. 🙄 …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/05/21 05:37 AM
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At her age, I was inundated with this type of advice. Hence why I eventually became a pickme. I drank the kool-aid that I was "immature" and it was asking "too much" for a man to be crazy for me sexually. Spoiler: it led to misery. It does not work. Trying to look for someone who is into you, while "accepting" modern men won't think you're wonderful enough to ever be into you the way you want, plus downplaying the importance of your own attraction to the man, is a very dangerous combination.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/05/21 09:03 PM
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Do you think a HVM would demote you for approaching? Theoretically? Maybe not. I wouldn't. Part of the handbook's definition of a HVM is someone who actively puts in effort to pursue. It signifies someone who has a healthy amount of pride and can chase other things he wants in life, like career goals. A man who is assertive and has his own opinions is attractive IMO. Maybe a shy guy will say "yes" to you asking him out, but even then he may be very unattractive in personality (e.g. super passive…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/04/21 03:08 AM
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Same.. When I was a pickme, I used to think it meant I was repulsive, or men just didn't like women in general (and I "had to tolerate" it 🙄). Now I realize a bubbly personality and showing reciprocal interest (like literally an enthusiastic text back) shouldn't have been making me fret so much about "scaring him away." Another reason why OLD burned me out...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/04/21 02:48 AM
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On OLD, I'll never forget having two dates with this guy who seemed lukewarm on the 1st date but texted "I really want to see you again" for the 2nd date. 2nd date, was very into himself and treated me like a platonic male friend. I think he had me confused with another girl on the dating apps. 😬🤯🥴
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/04/21 02:58 AM
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If you ever wrote a book about these dating experiences, I would definitely read it. Just saying. 🥰 (More posts would be awesome too).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/04/21 02:46 AM
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He sounded like the DENNIS system on It's Always Sunny.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/04/21 02:40 AM
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It's such a gross mindset. If a person actually likes someone, wouldn't they want to give them attention? Am I taking cray cray pills? It shouldn't be this hard. I wish I realized early on (when men would play these games) so much of it was indifference on behalf of this men. Instead, I took it as a reflection that I was lackluster, or they were sHy or HuRt In ThE pAsT. I thought I had to work harder somehow to make them treat me in a way that showed they actually liked me, and took all of socie…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/04/21 02:26 AM
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This sounds exhausting, like a second job. 😩 Thank you for writing this out. It sucks how we can't just have normal, passionate interest. These men in your post sound very cold and calculated, as if they are trying to convince you they are wonderful, rather than focusing on how they find you wonderful. The hot and cold thing shows a lack of true interest..
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/04/21 02:17 AM
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You wanted the most basic standards, and he wouldn't meet them. Like others said, even one of these things is a dealbreaker. 🚮 Even if his excuses were/are legitimate, that does NOT mean you need to be in his company, help him, or otherwise sacrifice your life for him, romantically or platonically. If he wanted to, he would. If he decided to seriously level up, he would seek out the myriad resources out there instead of draining you (then never taking any steps toward the goals, hmm 🤔). Friends …
/r/askFDS28/04/21 06:30 AM
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Wait. ✋ You mean... emojis 🙂 are "bad" 👎now? ❔ It's upsetting 😡 lurkers when women type out things with cute 🐇 little pictures? 😕 We are already destroying the world 🌎 😈 for being in the work force 💪, being single moms 👩, getting married 💒, getting divorced ⚖, owning cats🐈, speaking 🔊on podcasts 👏😀😳, painting our nails 💅 instead of online dating, succeeding in school 🏫, and just being all around the clock ⏰ awesome 👌. Sis 🚺, stop 🛑 and throw the whole man away 🚮 if he is low effort. Life is too …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/04/21 03:30 AM
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Maybe. Maybe some people are better at noticing? I only ask because, before the pandemic, I genuinely did not notice men checking me out. I would have friends telling me after the fact because I would not see it. Sometimes, I did feel it. Today, some men give me this intense eye contact behind their masks. It's not a smile with crinkled eyes and a hello. Some men do glance and look away as if they were daydreaming (no problem there). But what is with the men who look so intensely? One time I was…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/04/21 03:07 AM
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Who is the therapist? Just wondering, because this advice sounds abysmal.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/04/21 03:18 AM
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Plot twist! The only time I happily pay 50/50.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/04/21 02:47 PM
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Act now and you'll get another bonus: FREE pseudo-therapy girlfriend services! She'll apologize for imagined faults when you mistreat her, and reassure you you're not a bad person! /s 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/04/21 01:59 PM
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overstay after the other guests were gone, hit on me -- I asked him to leave after that. Queen energy. When your eyes are opened to these men's attitude, dating becomes immensely unappealing 😷
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/04/21 01:55 PM
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Ooof. That is horrible. Thank you for elaborating. Scary stuff out there. 😞
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/04/21 01:48 PM
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Three dates is nothing. You have no idea if a man is really "amazing" or the initial impression is a facade. If you find the chemistry lacking, please don't beat yourself up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/04/21 04:46 AM
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How did you detect "fearful?" Did it have a particular smell, or did you "feel" the fear when you smelled it?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/04/21 04:37 AM
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Yep. If a man wants me to wear "sexy" things around the house, he can be the one to buy them 😘
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 09:45 PM
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I am so sorry. 😔 What an asshole!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 08:45 PM
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Her fashion advice helped me level up my wardrobe and "presentation," but I was told by someone here she is a scammer. Essentially she is not rich from dating wealthy men, she is rich from shilling her "classes" to other women. I believe in making your own $, but that information certainly turned me off. ☹ Edit: also, she says not to wear T shirts ever. Even at home. 😆
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 06:58 PM
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Thank you!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 06:08 PM
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Thank you! Those additional points are utter garbage. You know who benefits when you act happy all the time and act "low maintenance?" Abusers.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 06:08 PM
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Following in case you drop these patterns !
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 04:40 PM
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I never read the book, but reviews say they tell women to watch p[]rn with their husband's, and tell their husband's to have fun at the strip club 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 04:12 PM
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Exactly. Who knows if he actually meant it or not (maybe he did, especially if his brain is porn-fried), but he definitely sees her like a toy. If he has been saying this kind of sh1t to her, she probably doesn't have an inner "glow" round him. Imagine not making the connection between choices and consequences, if that is how he thinks 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 02:48 PM
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"He NeEdS a FaThEr FiGuRe" "But it will be a bRoKeN hOmE!" Sigh. I wish we had more safe avenues of positive male role models promoted in society.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 02:46 PM
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OP put the story under the Automod comment.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 02:24 PM
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Note: I'm not saying a man has to view you as perfect. No human being is perfect. But, you can see the direct contrast in how the letter writer views him (satisfied, respectful), versus how he views her (an object on a dehumanizing rating scale). We see it all the time in the media. It is not healthy despite being "normalized" by women's mags and p()rn. I remember a reddit post where the OP wrote she was concerned because her boyfriend said "your boobs make me sad" because he wished they were bi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 02:19 PM
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Wholesome!! Thank you for this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/21 02:10 PM
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Yeah, too many men fetishize trauma, as I learned on Reddit 🤢
/r/askFDS10/04/21 03:48 PM
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I think this is true for a lot of men. Even if you have the rare "I'm sorry you went through that" from a man, what is the point of even bringing it up? Back in my pickme days, I would bring up the trauma to say "this happened to me, so please don't do it to me either 🤡" or "that thing you're doing reminds of what happened to me, so please stop 🤡 " If you have to even go there in the first place, you're not with a quality man. Those clown approaches I listed absolutely do not work. You can obser…
/r/askFDS10/04/21 03:46 PM
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Figurative peepee measuring hurts everyone. 🤣 He needs to suck it up and do his share of labor. Even if they hired a helper, he needs to recognize how much she is putting into this and get some appreciation, lest she ditches him for a contributing roommate.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/04/21 03:39 PM
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I see your point, but behavior can only be repeated in a relationship if the significant other continues to tolerate it, aka stay. So the men in this case do decide to act poorly, but unfortunately women accepting it, (as a society or in a singular relationship) sends the message they can get away with it. I'm not saying every woman needs to change society with her dating choices, but it's all about self-preservation and sending the message "this is not acceptable. I'm out."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/04/21 12:48 PM
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Like someone else here said, it only makes sense from the opinion women are "lesser" than men. In such a messed up world, her boyfriend's theoretical feelings/"mental illness"/excuse for unforgivable behavior is much more important than the real physical and emotional harm she is experiencing. 🙄 ETA: Reddit-style misogyny in a nutshell, even if the commenters truly believe they are "egalitarian," "balanced," or "considering all possibilities." Also, there is the naive just-world fallacy: "gee, i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/04/21 03:36 AM
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I'm crying at this reference and cartoon clip 😂😭💀
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/04/21 01:28 PM
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Marked NSFW as a possible trigger warning.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/04/21 12:58 PM
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I love how many women/girls from Gen Z roast this behavior now. 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/04/21 12:44 PM
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Another thing I realized: I think a lot of men will "diagnose" themselves with whatever is in vogue (depression, autism, whatever), then conveniently use it as an excuse for jerk behavior. "Gee, sorry I cursed you out. I think I have depression and am too depressed to see a doctor and get a diagnosis. I'll be even more depressed if you don't cater to me 24/7."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/04/21 03:32 AM
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Excellent post. A personal difference I noticed was, pre-FDS I would project a lot of good qualities onto men that weren't there. "He didn't ghost/ignore/mistreat/disrespect me! He was just being dEeP and needed to treat me like scum to figure out his priorities. He'll choose me in the end 🤡" Watching a romantic movie would increase my regard for someone instead of feeling disappointed he didn't do some grand gesture, as men claim we feel. In contrast, porn can easily lead to a man feeling dissa…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/04/21 03:12 AM
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I don't have any experience with it, but what I hear about femdom is the male subs are very "pushy" and it's obvious the femdom is performing for the man's fantasies. Either way, I would be so uncomfortable with it LOL.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/04/21 12:22 AM
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It is never ever mandatory to date someone with a particular health diagnosis. I believe there is a chance women feel obligated to date men with mental health issues if the women have any mental health issues themselves. Example: "He'll understand me, and a man without mental health issues will judge" This thinking is faulty-- there is a huge difference between a functioning adult controlling their symptoms with therapy, lifestyle and/or medications vs. an adult who is not functioning due to men…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/04/21 12:19 AM
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Isn't it funny how the people who judge you for being cautious are the ones who don't have to suffer the consequences? 🤔 The audacity! So sorry you got scammed. 😞
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/04/21 11:46 PM
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I am so grateful you got out of there. You have a fantastic gut! You completed your intuition mission by noping out of there quickly. 👟
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/04/21 11:43 PM
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I would love to hear your perspective on this! What in his language gave it away?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/04/21 11:34 PM
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I died a bit inside when I looked it up 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/04/21 11:03 PM
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Exactly. It is the men. I cannot change the men doing this. I can only change myself. The reason why I hate this? If the problem were ME, I could fix it. Hence why Pickme beliefs were even more alluring at the time of my darkest days.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/04/21 01:58 AM
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😳 "Hey baby, I want u to be my maid for my son's moldy 🚿🛁. " The audacity!! I also experienced a date with a man saying he liked one dating site so much better over the other one. This was date one or two, and he met me off the site he didn't like as much 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 03:14 PM
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silently bat her lashes at you like a baby lamb This is pure poetry 🤣🐑
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 03:08 PM
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I do agree with working on your issues prior to a relationship, absolutely. To be fair, a lot of women can enter a relationship knowing they have a diagnosis (going to therapy, taking meds, lifestyle changes) without putting the onus on their partner to "fix" them. IMO I think the dating world sets women up. If a woman feels unsafe, like a man isn't trustworthy, she's getting gaslighted, etc it is way to easy for her to blame herself. "Oh, it's just my anxiety," she thinks. Meanwhile her friends…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 02:17 PM
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I think porn also unconsciously conditions women. It sends the message women neednto be submissive to whatever the man wants to be "hot." That she can protest at first but eventually she will give up or enjoy it 🤮 Then imagine that message permeating into the rest of the culture, because historical misogyny.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 01:53 PM
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Excellent post. The clapback urge is understandable but not the best route. He doesn't need a response. At least FDS ladies can post their witty comments to an audience who appreciates them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 01:19 PM
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I think it was a joke. (In all seriousness, actual femdom sounds exhausting)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 05:21 AM
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So kinky. My femdom fetish is a man who wears a nice cologne, buys me flowers, and shows me basic human kindness! 😈
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 02:48 AM
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Yep! They have a literal database of FDS posts (a site based on r€dp1ll of course!). I refuse to spell it out. It's so pathetic they literally hate us so much for existing. I refuse to date you boys, get over it 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/21 02:26 AM
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My experience is men saying this in a "caring" way. This reeked of the narcissistic "look how saintly I am to put up with you. I love you unconditionally, while you are an evil shallow woman. I smother you and act like a man baby. Be grateful I am so devoted to you."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/21 10:39 PM
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Internet hugs if you want them! I don't blame you-- it is true everyone loses as a PickMe. I remember giving useless advice to my friends because I didn't want to see them sad. But I couldn't articulate and call out when my friends were getting water tortured by ghosting, gaslighting, neglect, etc. This made us feel shitty, but how much was normal? It wasn't overt stuff, and I didn't realize how men thought differently until FDS. I really bought the lie "times were different" and went against my…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/04/21 12:16 AM
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I'm sorry that happened to you.. I've been there. Even pickme friends turning against me and encouraging me to "save" a relationship when I was so young and had no kids with the guy. "Friends" who encourage you to stay (with someone you are not attracted to/who hurts you) are not your friends. It gets better ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 10:51 PM
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It's so sad. IMO this type of behavior is fueled by 2 pickme mindsets: "I have to work hard to prove myself worthy/receive love" and "I'm fundamentally not a 'good enough woman to be desired to the point of getting courted by a man." Dangerous thinking. 😔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 09:26 PM
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It sucks because she is probably taking him at his word he likes her, but no actions back them up. Men like this lie when they are asked out. Chances are he is NOT into her. She is a benchwarmer ☹
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 08:40 PM
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LOL! Reddit expects women to do the following for men with jerk behavior: Step 1: Assume he is depressed and cast away any suspicion of entitlement, contempt, hatred, misogyny, etc. 🤡 Step 2: Assume he has the best of intentions and wants to change. 🤡 Step 3: Call and make the therapy/psychiatrist appointments and provide transportation. Also, fill out his job applications and write his school papers! He cannot be expected to live up to your expectations, without a little nudge, after all 🤡 Step…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 08:28 PM
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fire placements need continuous mental stimulation, ideally they will be with people who will respect their aspirations and ambitions. A good companion is enterprising, knows how to not be petty, they don't hold grudges, and encourage your free spirit. They show their loyalty by taking the initiative for your sake, they're ready to colour outside the lines for you. Yes! This is exactly what I want. I love independent masculine men who take the initiative and actively show they want you. They do …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 04:21 PM
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😭😂🚮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 04:05 PM
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Typical Reddit relationship post: Woman: He tried something disrespectful/kinky/upsetting on me. Reddit: You should have CoMmUnIcAtEd every single possible thing you don't like, otherwise he can't read your mind! He is a simple man and needs explicit instructions like a toddler, but he is also smarter and emotionally deeper than you because he is a stoic strong man. You are being petty and have no right to be turned off or break up with him. Save the relationship, because it is a greater entity …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 03:55 PM
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I'm so thankful you had the queen treatment you deserve. Feel better soon ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 03:48 PM
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I couldn't help but think of this clip when I read your comment 🤭🤭🤭: https://youtu.be/2X64fVAUaEQ
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 12:50 PM
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Please remove the username and repost.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 12:38 PM
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Same 😔 Never again. I was so confused and misinformed
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 04:22 AM
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Reason #638363 men are often the golddiggers. He wanted a Pickme who would pay the tab until he got bored 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 01:31 AM
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"There's a pot to every lid!" Seriously this cultural brainwashing had me deluded into thinking "who was I to demand more?"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/04/21 01:13 AM
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🥰 thank you. Nobody tears down my FDS ladies, fictional or real!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 10:02 PM
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They are so desperate for a scapegoat (e.g. height) instead of admitting lack of proper hygiene and a terrible personality are to blame for their perpetual singlehood🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 04:43 PM
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(Snicker) former pickme self can relate. 🤭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 04:26 PM
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This is so interesting. I don't know much about astrology but really appreciate your creative framing of these things. Any tips for Jupiter people/fire signs in relationships? 😉
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 04:20 PM
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It's a mind-eff. It's power and dominance over you, and all they do is damage themselves and their relationships when they try this stuff.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 04:17 PM
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I've literally been randomly messaged "you look like a tire slasher" on OLD. No pretense, no hello, no "don't get mad." Just a neg 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 04:14 PM
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It is an awful insult, but it is also an insult that doesn't make sense. IIRC, Princess Peach makes awesome cakes, manages a kingdom, befriends cute toadstool people, conducts herself politely, packs a punch on Super Smash, survives getting abducted by strange reptiles, and doesn't suffer from Stockholm Syndrome after. Peach is actually pretty damn resilient. 💅
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 04:10 PM
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Sounds like a great therapist. Unfortunately autism, adhd, etc are often the "excuse du jour" for bad behavior in men. She called it out in a fair way. Wishing you the best on your journey to freedom ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 03:41 PM
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You should see the newest Flummoxed Friday where she was calling out men who choke their partners. It was glorious.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 03:00 PM
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Exactly! I love how she is a real life FDS "DUMP HIM" type when a man messes up. And by "messes up" I mean commits an act of disrespect we would never do, but he might pull the "I didn't meeeean to" stuff.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 03:12 AM
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WOW thank you so much for this! Scripts to retrain the brain (to keep yourself from self-blame) 💯 I might "dumb fox" in situations but internal laughter helps so much.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 02:11 AM
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Thank you so much for recommending those videos. I love how she spells everything out and does not make excuses for crappy behaviors (both men and women). She's also funny and so endearingly protective. She has a new fan 🥰 (watching her Flummoxed Friday Live Chat now).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/04/21 02:06 AM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 01:04 PM
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All of the above examples happened to me. Unfortunately a lot of them are deluded enough (by porn) to believe plenty of women like it. Or "should" like it. 🤢 I saw many profile questionnaires where the man had a woman's answer of "I don't think I'd like it" marked red (an incompatibility).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 01:02 PM
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I'm so heartened you found this helpful. Yes, absolutely point this out to your therapist! Too often therapists, friends, strangers on the internet will jump to "what about HIS pain? His Childhood? Etc" but it's not an excuse for a sick power play destroying your self esteem. Even if it only happened once in a while like it did in my relationships. Like ink in water, it sets the tone. Plenty of people experience trauma and negative emotions without engaging in controlling, abusive, negging behav…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 12:41 PM
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Yes, I remember my best qualities got shat on and I was so confused. It really is hatred at the end of the day, I feel :/
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 12:33 PM
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Yes! They get into such a snit if a good looking actor enters the screen. I didn't ever say anything about the person!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 12:27 PM
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Absolutely! One of my past LVM would say things like "don't think I'm ignoring you." (He was). Sometimes men will drag on a relationship when they aren't "into you" yet give false reassurances they are. The words are indeed hollow and scripted. Months of my time wasted.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 12:12 PM
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You don't have to date gamers or anime fans though! I like games but will not date someone who identifies as a "gAmEr" if that makes sense.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 12:09 PM
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I'm not crying, you're crying 😭 I have so much respect for parents' sacrifices in this life. Your comment is simply beautiful and transparent.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 01:23 AM
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Yes, exactly! Perfect comment about the double-standard. It is such a cruel way to be.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 12:56 AM
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Good for you. It already affected his sexual performance literally the second time (the honeymoon phase!). It is really sad he is actively choosing sexual dysfunction.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/21 12:55 PM
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This should be the real definition of "nagging." ^
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/21 12:53 PM
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Wait, you mean I can't share my omelet recipes in the vegan subreddit? They are just closed-minded. 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/21 03:29 AM
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Yes. The "echo chamber" argument completely ignores how some opinions are simply not accurate, valid, helpful, kind, or relevant. Just because someone can throw an opinion out into the internet does not mean they should. Meanwhile, FDS is roasted because we refuse to debate the subject of our humanity with bad-faith misogynists. We politely decline wasting our time justifying our standards, why emotional abuse makes us feel bad, and why we want to date men we feel attracted to; and we are accuse…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/21 03:22 AM
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online dating used to be a fairly good place to meet HVM but that changed about 5-7 years ago. That's being generous. I remember meeting all sorts of LVM who would blow up at me in chat circa 2010-2013+. Example: "You read my questionnaire on OKCupid and decided we weren't compatible? You're being JuDgMeNtAl! I didn't mean anything when I answered the questions, just wanted to finish my profile. Get to know meeeeee!" (True Story. And the man was over 10 years my senior IIRC).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/21 12:07 AM
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Look on the bright side: if we're not real, we can pretend to be anything we want! 🥳 /s
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/21 11:50 PM
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I felt bad for the OP. That comment with the helpful links was buried. I remember in my PickMe days reading those articles and not seeing it at first. "It's just him running ahead! I'm just being sensitive/crazy." The misogynistic online echo chambers of mainstream advice forums plus a couple clueless friends (at the time) proved to be a toxic combo.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/21 03:43 AM
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This! Sometimes it's not what they're doing, but how they're doing it. The person in the story seems to have a bf who could not care less about her feelings.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/03/21 03:37 AM
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Pregnancy is pretty scary to me from a biological perspective, but this guy almost sounds like he would prefer a plastic doll to a living, breathing human who is about to gift him a child with the miracle of birth! He can't even respect the tremendous uptaking and sacrifice for the family. Is every messy stage of having a baby going to be too "gory" for him?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/03/21 11:18 PM
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Major props 👏 to this thread. I used to be so nihilistic prior to FDS. But that nihilism destroyed me. I realized I couldn't change men but took away the wrong message. Instead of avoiding anyone who made me feel like shit, I thought a helping of shit was the "price of admission" for a boyfriend. I believed I had to accept whoever dated me was "settling" for me, even if I was way out of his league.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/03/21 01:59 AM
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There are so many, I'm sure. I was one. The Twilight books focused on young love (the protagonist was like "I hope Edward turns me immortal before I become an old woman!"). R*dpill garbage and YouTube comments ("it's all over for her at 25!") have been around at least since the 2010s. This stuff really mindf's young women who want a partner.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/03/21 01:07 PM
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Most, if not all of us have been in a similar situation pre-FDS and cried like OP. She is strong and feeling her feelings as part of it. But she also can have a great adventure ahead. All of these things can be true, but shaming someone for feeling (like their heart is getting ripped out as we speak) is not cool.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/21 11:53 PM
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+1, literally it makes everything make sense. It's harsh but does not make excuses.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/21 11:46 PM
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We don't care if you went on a super awesome field date one time. 🤣😂🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/21 11:39 PM
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I am so sorry for your loss. That person sounds like a predator. 🤬
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/21 12:37 PM
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It's depressing how it feels like men use us as masturbatory aids for their porn fantasies. Then women are encouraged to settle for these walking turnoffs and use porn themselves. It's madness.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 11:00 PM
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I am so sorry. Wtf?? I hate it when men act like we make up the stuff other men can do (and have!).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 10:53 PM
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Sadly this seems to be the culture. Also "you're responsible for your own orgasm" 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 06:22 PM
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Only women seem to be told to have sex when they want to or "get themselves in the mood" for their man. It's so gross. I remember once reading a (presumably a man's) perspective on women's sexuality, and it claimed women were turned on by the desirability of themselves. It seemed to be implying women were shallow or wanting to be worshipped to want sex. It seemed to me a lot of words for "women are often turned off by their partners, and this is their attempt at justifying/forcing themselves to …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 06:15 PM
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I would strongly suspect these women are turned off or repulsed by their partners.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 06:10 PM
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Yes, and if you dress yourself to the 9s, you will feel falsely invested and want to go on the date anyways not to "waste" it. @lalalaletmeexplain on Instagram is amazing at talking about this (I think her term was being a "spectacular buff ting") and not feeling pressured to go out because you worked so hard and need to salvage it. He messed up, not you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 04:28 PM
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I have tears from laughing so hard at this. He really thought this was a good idea 🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 04:24 PM
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The face in his profile picture 😂😂😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 04:22 PM
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Yes, I really liked Ms. Mooknee's takedown and she said the same thing!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 04:18 PM
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Agreed. I'm not sure how we can fight it, but Fight the New Drug and stories like this help: https://www.collectiveshout.org/men_need_to_de_radicalise_from_porn
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:36 PM
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I'm a Millennial. I remember being ignorant of the extent of online porn existence in high school (even though the popular music was porny as is). Boys in high school were immature but in my experience were willing to go out on proper dates, even if it was just ice cream. After HS I encountered more disrespectful men tbh.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:14 PM
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Yes! I can confirm the dating apps had fboys and ghosting and those other games 10 years ago, but nothing seems to have been better since. No matter how many snarky libfem articles criticized unsolicited dick pics, all the defense of porn/kink/sex work in the next breath canceled it out. Libfems over the past decade: "women are people! Unless it turns you on, then it's ok to bend that rule."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:04 PM
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His loss. She is so brave and beautiful to boot.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 05:26 AM
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It's really bad out there. That same man basically told me how he learned everything form porn, and the implicit message was I was supposed to live up to whatever fantasies he had. Even some male virgins I met were so damaged from porn they would have ED/delayed orgasm. Or they would judge women having sex in monogamous relationships despite admitting to consuming a lot of porn. They fuel their own madonna-wh*re complexes then complain about not having girlfriends. Then they resent a woman who g…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 05:21 AM
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I remember reading how Hugh H*fner allegedly needed to watch porn despite having a literal house full of conventionally attractive women having orgies. I blame him for a lot of this damn culture, or at least starting it. Men with this mindset are setting themselves up to be perpetually disappointed
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:45 AM
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Some men genuinely say they expect things to be like porn. "I didn't know women grew hair there" and such. It is so sick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:36 AM
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Men have been radicalized by porn to the point sexism is even worse than pre-2010s, IMO. The ones focused on saving face can easily say things to appear like they see women as humans, but so many recent assaults on our safety and dignity in the political world (e.g. the need for "We Cannot Consent to This" in the UK) leave me feeling disillusioned. Woke kink culture is another tool to oppress women while men get "sensitive nice guy" points. Of course, some men out there of multiple generations a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:26 AM
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I blame porn. TW: A lot of it is women protesting, wincing, saying it hurts, then finally freezing or enjoying it 🙄 Some porn involves coercion, blackmail, and trickery as well. Men know but rationalize these messages, even if the images are cartoons. Women are told to normalize the pain. Women are told "rape fantasies of getting raped are fine because it means I can have sex without the guilt of being slutty, and he just cannot resist me." Lies. Basically any healthy aspect of women's sexuality…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:11 AM
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TW I remember talking to a man about rape and mentioned how many say the act literally hurts compared to consensual sex, and he was surprised. 🤢 They don't teach anything of substance in sex Ed. And sadly some porn encourages men to enjoy physical pain in that sense as well as bdsm.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:07 AM
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I'm so glad the staff took your complaint seriously and he didn't return. That is so creepy and violating!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/21 03:03 AM
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Please send it to me (if you feel comfortable)! It would be fascinating 😊
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/21 02:38 PM
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I was a virgin and he was shocked but really understanding. He gave me a pep talk about how girls get very emotional and I need to sort that out before I do anything with him. HUGE red flag. That says he thinks it is a flaw to become emotional and pair-bond with physical intimacy. He literally invented a problem, said you had it, and said you needed to sort it out. The audacity. This stuff is subtle, and before we learn, sometimes we just get a bad gut feeling. The rest is also abusive and horri…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/03/21 03:41 AM
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You dropped this: 👑
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/03/21 03:32 AM
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As we passed each other, one of them said "Hey honey, where do you think you're going?" I peeled my jacket off as I whipped around and said "wherever the FUCK I want." Living for this energy in 2021! 😍
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 11:14 PM
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I would never want to date a man who thinks like this. Not even a little bit. Be careful, the "all men are like that, but he cares if he doesn't verbalize it" is very dangerous. If a man gives you an inkling he thinks like this man, it's your cue to leave.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/03/21 12:45 PM
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expecting PeRFeCtIOn 🤢 I am so sorry she said that to you. You have all the validation in the world here. I'm so glad you had a good therapist and FDS to help you connect with your own instincts and avoid abusive men. Congrats on making so much progress on your healing journey ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 11:36 PM
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Amazing. What phrases did she give to handle work? Sometimes it's grin and bear it with work "mean girls" 😬
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 01:56 PM
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Right, if you have a good father, you can be naive and susceptible to thinking men are good like him, or are like him "deep down." Every woman has to be on guard.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 01:43 PM
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"CoMmUnIcAtE" only applies to silly women who don't understand men who naturally want to kick women into traffic for existing 😂🔫
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 01:35 PM
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Translation: "I hate women and they are damned if they do, damned it they don't. " 🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 01:33 PM
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How did you figure that out after a few sessions? Did your therapist call out your then-bf's behavior?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/21 03:23 AM
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All good, the issue was fixed. 🙂 It's natural to want to throw a barb at someone in that way, but we want to take the high road. Especially since FDS welcomes women of all kinds, and who knows how many members may look like journalists writing trash about us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 08:11 PM
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My past self feels called out. "If I work extra hard, he'll love and respect me!" 🤡
/r/askFDS13/03/21 08:05 PM
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Exactly. Tbh, it doesn't help how some women demanded little girls can join the Boy Scouts in the US. I heard the Girl Scouts had great points as is. Once again, when these politics arise, the bottom line diminishes women ☹
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 02:47 PM
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Let's not attack women for their appearance on here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 02:21 PM
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What country was this? I could just vomit knowing how hostile this world is in 2021!!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 02:17 PM
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Thank you! 😊 it feels good to pass along the message to so many women. And in doing so we clarify our message is not female TRP, but "let us exist in peace and leave us alone."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 02:16 PM
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Sex dolls would probably feed into the "need" to dominate a real woman, though. Kind of like how porn escalates. If they could just leave us alone, that would be great. But I don't think sex dolls would achieve that. Also, 🤢.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 02:12 PM
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Young men feeling "emasculated, humiliated and rejected" because they don't have a girlfriend to strangle during sex (like their pornos!) or a sex worker to purchase and r*pe? This culture is truly disgusting. Human beings are not commodities.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 02:09 PM
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Someone commented "it's like Russian roulette, but he knows where the bullet is.' Chilled me to the core. 🥶
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 02:03 PM
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Please be patient with mods. We are volunteering our time to this community on top of our daily responsibilities. We have bots to assist us as well. Ladies, please do not take it personally if we have not gotten to you yet. This sub grew by tens of thousands in the past year alone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 01:56 PM
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The Women's Declaration on Sex-Based rights literally states we have the right to gather in a space without men. It's amazing how men have so many "boy's club" spaces while women are bullied out of ours.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 01:50 PM
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💀💀💀
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 01:37 PM
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Thank you for sharing. That message was a great example of allyship and calling out LVM behavior. 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/21 01:35 PM
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😘😂😂😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/21 04:45 AM
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Skidmarks in the morning, skidmarks in the evening, skidmarks at supper time! 🎶
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 01:51 PM
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Incredible post!! Thank you so much for clarifying thus for any newcomers to the sub. More nonsense I spotted: Much of FDS is similar to the advice your BFF would give you if you were in an unhealthy relationship,” says New York-based relationship expert Susan Winter. Ok, I would agree with that. “But the underlying tone on FDS smacks of 'all men are like this.' That's where I have concerns. ^ This right here is tone-policing. Has she not heard of Schrodinger's Rapist? Yes, there are good men, b…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 01:40 PM
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"Misandry" TFOH with that shit, Vice. This culture wants us dumb, naive, compliant, malleable, and uninformed to allow men to use and abuse us. The libfem narratives are telling us to approach each man with doe-eyed, coquettish wonderment and throw caution to the wind. This is why so many of us believed men's lies about "seeing where things go" and "don't assume men might just want sex before you get to know them." This conditioning wants us to give every red flag-bearing man the benefit of the …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 04:27 AM
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I like her style tips. what is libfem about her? Genuinely curious.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 01:08 AM
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I love this advice. Sometimes we unconsciously assume we deserve or can handle less than what we want for our friends.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/21 11:39 PM
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Shallon Lester talks about intuition as that calm, still voice (like Oprah) who tells you not to go there. Meanwhile anxiety is shrieking at the top of its lungs. For me, intuition can manifest as a lower level (not debilitating) anxiety around certain people. If I start feeling my stomach twist, feel unsure about myself, confused, and dread being around just one person, that person likely is not good for me. Same thing with actual reasonable anxiety triggers: driving with someone who is driving…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/21 11:37 PM
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"If it's fragile, let it break"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 01:25 PM
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I'm so grateful you survived and got out of there.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 03:24 AM

NSFW tag for possible triggering content. Amazing post.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/21 03:16 AM
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Dorian Solot and Marshall Miller's I <3 Female Orgasm book is great. They even recommend men stay away from porn. It's all about female benefit. I believe Dorian is a nurse IIRC.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/03/21 01:41 PM
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WOW, who even asks that? What did you say?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/03/21 01:12 PM
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😂😂😂 I love this, thank you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/03/21 03:59 AM
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Just to highlight the absurdity of our superfans, this post is being reported for "hate." A man doing a nice thing for a woman he loves is literally hate now, according to Reddit. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/03/21 03:57 AM
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I need to see this💯. Do you have a link?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/03/21 03:54 AM
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I totally read this in a variation of the song "if you're happy and you know it clap your hands" 😂 your comment is spot on.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/03/21 03:35 AM
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Seconding everyone's compassionate responses, especially the possibility of studying abroad if you are interested in leaving Canada. You may benefit from a change of scenery and something positive/new to feel excited about. If you can get a therapist that specializes in childhood trauma/PTSD that can help support you through this, that would be a great start. If you want to check it out, Dr. Ramani has a great channel about surviving abuse from narcissists. The world is unfair, but you are fight…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 11:20 PM
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Beautiful response <3 Upgraded your flair!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 11:12 PM
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Thank God you did, and I hope you are safe now. These stories including yours are appalling. I shouldn't be surprised, but this stuff still takes my breath away from shock and disgust.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 10:55 PM
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<3 Don't sell yourself short-- you sound HV in a bad situation because you didn't have the information of FDS before. HVW friends are a huge blessing indeed. Good for you on taking your time to gather your ducks in a row before leaving your man. Stay safe out there, and thank you for sharing. It is really courageous and IMO givES hope to the other ladies in similar situations ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 10:53 PM
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The allure of the oppression Olympics 🥇🥈🥉 Watch trolls somersault, jump to conclusions, and battle common sense to win 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 04:18 PM
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Literally every post on the front page of FDS is being reported for "hate based on identity or vulnerability" 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 04:15 PM
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Men don't even read dating profiles for the most part, IME. And if they do it is neg fodder. 🤡 imagine putting in all that effort to attract a decent human being and you get insulted (this has happened to me many times, and friends/family would be confused) I'm done with the circus.
/r/askFDS27/02/21 04:12 PM
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I'm so sorry :( Have you contacted The Hotline? Or any other resources?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 02:16 PM
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This got reported for hate based on identity or vulnerability. Ya'll, today I learned not wanting a particular man's opinion is LITERAL HATE! 🤣 wheeze
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 02:07 PM
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Yes, and I like how this post does not sl*t shame (aka imply misogyny) toward women. It's not about women being "bad" for having sex, it's about refusing to have sex who will harm us directly or indirectly via sex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 05:27 AM
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This is brilliant, and my past self feels so called out. 😂 I really did feel all those pressures. I was truly miserable. It's not fun knowing this is the culture either, but at least I'm "free" if I choose not to play in the rigged dating game.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/21 01:57 AM
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A man who claims to love you unconditionally (to pressure you into trusting him, tolerating things) is a huge red flag!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 01:09 PM
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She probably thinks she "has" to do this to get love, survive, get a boyfriend, have housing, have enough money to live, have a support system, feel "valid" as a person, be a "good" person (aka feeling 'indebted" despite hating him), etc. She is in self-sacrifice mode and doing this to escape some kind of feared pain or outcome, or she is scared of what life would be like without him. It is a sick, twisted form of physical and/or emotional stability she is craving, so she is settling and resigni…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 05:08 AM
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I remember having that mindset with an abusive ex. And we were both adults! I truly believed that all men were like that, and I needed to do what he wanted lest he would be unhappy or leave me. I was able to get out before any sex happened. Being with an abuser can make you feel so off-balance and broken down that he is in complete charge of your romantic life. He would claim both superior intelligence and incompetence as a man (with select life areas There, including my perceptions). There woul…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/21 05:02 AM
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Southern Poverty Law Center has (thankfully) called out the groups in the past, but IMO there needs to be more of it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 01:40 PM

Marked NSFW for potentially triggering content (violence toward women).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/21 01:31 PM
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You may think you’re fearful for taking it slow and then be convinced “oh I’m just anxious, I need to get over that” when you’re fearful because there’s red flags! Oh, if this isn't the truth! This is something I would lie to myself about but I would still feel miserable and uneasy. If not done right, tests can absolutely divert you from the north star "gut"/danger signal into that dangerous, cognitive-dissonant rationalizing mindspace.
/r/askFDS24/02/21 04:44 AM
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Maybe your family needs an information diet on your love life, and maybe it's time for new friends. I agree with the commenters this guy is full of BS and excuses. I see why you would feel sad and confused in this situation. But his "arguments" don't hold weight IMO, they just say "I don't wanna." You deserve better than "I don't wanna.:
/r/askFDS23/02/21 02:00 PM
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Remember negative comments from men are projection of how they feel about themselves. This is so hard, because women are conditioned to cooperate, be quiet, please men, give the benefit of the doubt, second-guess our intuition, and blame ourselves. These comments are misogyny from deeply unhappy men who live under the delusion they are superior based on chromosomes. If you dare say women are equal to men in any capacity, they will screech. 😆
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/21 02:05 PM
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Folks, this is a generalization. Obviously not all men. But, chances are you may still date a misogynist if you date a no f*p guy . If he abstains from porn, there is no guarantee he will see you as a human being and live a healthy lifestyle. He may still be addicted to vidya with characters sporting impossible body proportions. He may still believe women are the ones oppressing men with our sexuality. Dating someone who may be HV? His reasons for being pornfree need to be sound and based in "I'…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/21 01:55 PM
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Ladies, read this seriously and absorb it. This post is harsh, and obviously not all men, but if we don't take this seriously, we will suffer. We will beat ourselves up, blame each other, ignore intuition and give the benefit of the doubt. What does this look like? 1) if it feels like a neg, it is. No benefit of the doubt. 2) "he wouldn't screw me over because we both have [social connection/work connection] in common. He's going to come correct with good clean intentions" WRONG. 3) Vet ruthless…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/21 04:43 AM
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Where do you meet them?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/21 04:32 AM
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LVm Poisoning 😂 Thank goodness it doesn't come with a rash.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 04:45 PM
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Golly gee, you don't say!! /s In all seriousness, I'm glad this was published. We need more data in the fight for our rights.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 02:43 PM

NSFW mark for triggering content.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 02:26 PM
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Is he still your boyfriend?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/21 04:58 AM
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He said watching torture porn is a "basic need"??? I'm done.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/21 11:37 PM
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This research is NEXT LEVEL. 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/21 11:33 PM
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A lot of men on OLD lie about their age ("I put it in there by mistake and PoF won'/ let me change it lulz"). Then they have the audacity to set their age preferences at 18+ when they call themselves "39" 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/21 01:33 PM
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Yep! And f-boys are like "don't hate the player, hate the game!" And internalized misogyny has us criticizing other women like "men lie, what did you expect" OR "maybe he's been hurt before/is taking it slow/etc and he really likes you! Don't judge." 😑
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/21 02:38 PM
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They will literally make up flaws or tell her her strengths are her flaws. It is sick and destroys a woman's self-esteem.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/21 02:26 PM
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"She cared for me and I hated her for it. Now I learned to tolerate her without reciprocation! Hashtag king!" There is hardly anything more unattractive than a man who decides to feel "emasculated," act low-effort, and underachieve because of a woman's appropriate/normal/considerate actions. This man is patting himself of the back because he deigns to accept a girlfriend's actions of affection that he should also be doing because he should want to. Seriously, if you are annoyed by any of the abo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/21 02:23 PM
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I'm so sorry that happened. ☹ Remember it is a reflection on him, not you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/21 02:12 PM
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No links allowed due to "no brigading" rule.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/21 02:09 PM
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Wholesome 🥺❤
/r/askFDS15/02/21 11:22 PM
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If you check out the Just No SO sub, they have a ton of resources. I'm so sorry you're going through this. If you can secretly store your paperwork/most treasured belongings in a safety deposit box (in case you are worried he will retaliate) please do so. More than anything, see if you can speak to a lawyer specializing in divorce (again, undetected by spouse) to explore your options.
/r/askFDS15/02/21 01:02 PM
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Triangulation with imaginary dream girls at its finest 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/21 06:00 PM
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Empathy is fine! I just find spending too much time researching into the misogyny and figuring out every reason why can lead to a "normalization" of it leading us to excuse it. "Oh, he gives off a little bit of a r*d pill flag, but maybe he's not that bad or lonely." Dangerous territory for the dating life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/21 05:47 PM
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It's also the reason why men love to push this narrative that women expire on their 30th birthday. It serves male interests in two ways: 1) It creates a sense of urgency to pressure young women to settle down ASAP, and 2) it cripples women's self worth when we see ourselves as a depreciating asset, leading us to lower our standards and tolerate poor treatment from men no matter our age. This hits hard. I remember seeing "it's over at 25!" on YouTube before *ncels, maybe during /V\GTOW's early da…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/21 03:00 PM
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This is extremely diplomatic and well said. I completely agree. No need to justify yourself, though. Remember we are dealing with a population in which many believe not having sex with them is literally genocide. 😳 It is really sad how groupthink and other toxic aspects of social psychology have led FDS-haters down a rabbit hole that can be reversible, but typically they don't want to understand us. They find it easier not to change and rest in the status quo of misogyny. My advice is not to was…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/21 02:48 PM
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This is extremely diplomatic and well said. I completely agree. No need to justify yourself, though. Remember we are dealing with a population in which many believe not having sex with them is literally genocide. 😳 It is really sad how groupthink and other toxic aspects of social psychology have led FDS-haters down a rabbit hole that can be reversible, but typically they don't want to understand us. They find it easier not to change and rest in the status quo of misogyny. My advice is not to was…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/21 02:47 PM
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Brilliant. You get a flair upgrade 💖
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/21 02:37 PM
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Wendy's dropped this: 👑👑👑
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/21 02:35 PM
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Amazing, thank you so much for sharing!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/21 12:32 AM
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Can you please share how you do a background check, even without a last name?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/21 10:52 PM
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Right??
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/21 01:38 PM
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If you want to share any femme Fatale style secrets, please do ;)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/21 01:36 PM
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Spread the word: "choking" can also be long term harmful! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30784203/
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/21 01:39 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3769077/ To differentiate between atypical sexual interest and a mental disorder, DSM-5 requires that, for diagnosis, people with such interests exhibit the following: (i) “feel personal distress about their interest, not merely distress resulting from society’s disapproval”; or (ii) “have a sexual desire or behavior that involves another person‘s psychological distress, injury, or death, or a desire for sexual behaviors involving unwilling persons or…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/21 03:08 AM
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People who demand anal or believe they have to do it are sadly deluded about the real consequences of anal. Anal puts you at risk of PERMANENT DAMAGE like incontinence and other horrors. https://www.medinstitute.org/2016/08/the-consequences-of-heterosexual-anal-sex-for-women/ There are more sources. Teen girls out there are getting brainwashed by magazines to be anti-vanilla and kinky. It's all a lie. We are entitled to refuse dating anyone who tries to tell us reality is something different. Wo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/02/21 01:39 PM
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It's heartbreaking how normalized it is to marry the sort of man who would "need" a chore chart (and then ignore it). The "bumbling" stereotype, "cOmMuNiCaTe," etc often leaves women feeling like they have no other choice. They think, maybe he can change, or they have to put up with shit to be loved and say they have a man. A partner should not play the role of another child. On this site, this post will be a controversial opinion ("he neeeeds to game 16 hours straight while you watch the baby!"…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/02/21 01:22 PM
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Unfortunately NVM can be boldly repulsive despite meeting in person/through friends. There are no guarantees. I also hate OLD.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/02/21 06:00 AM
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I fixed it :) Don't bother posting to other subs to defend us, especially with the new anti-brigading policies in place. Our content and members speak for themselves. So many people will "see" what they want to see with FDS.
/r/askFDS08/02/21 11:27 PM
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I recommend you post in Ask FDS :)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/21 01:10 PM
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Other dating advice: "he could be busy. Give them space. Don't overthink it or get anxious-- maybe you have attachment issues." Also other dating advice: "wow, you believed it when he told you he was into you so early? It was two weeks in, what did you expect? Men lie at the beginning" ALSO other dating advice: "how dare you assume the man lied about his feelings or was careless. People's feelings change and maybe he was depressed! Maybe he felt unsafe telling you he felt smothered because you w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/21 05:47 AM
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Incredible post. I wouldn't be surprised if this is why they act bored of us so soon-- more supply for attention (wanted or not) is around the corner! Sad.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/21 02:02 PM
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Right, agreed that it is nice when a man is not on his phone when you are together. But, I think they meant when his phone is off when he is not with you. It is quite suspicious when you keep going to voicemail or the phone keeps ringing 😣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/21 01:41 PM
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Approved comment for wholesome content. Thank you for your kind words and sharing your experience. Wishing you health and happiness ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/21 01:34 PM
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"BuT wE WeRe tAlKiNgGgGgG!" - Low effort men
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/21 12:03 AM
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The end of the article is the only useful part IMO: Are You About to Be Jilted? Signs that your man's getting ready to bail His cell phone is always off. He might be spending time with someone he doesn't want you to know about...or he just doesn't want to make himself available. He's reluctant to make plans. If he hems and haws about committing to anything — even if it's in the semi-near future — he's thinking about making a break for it. He's meaner. The passive-aggressive breakup is a guy stan…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/21 12:01 AM
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I once saw a ridiculous article trying to say something along the lines of "men who attend adult entertainment expos and watch porn hold more feminist views" 🙄 No, they just objectify women more openly and/or intensely.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/21 11:37 PM
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Most, if not all of us, have been there. please be gentle on yourself. Unfortunately a lot of us grew up with the impression we were on an even playing field, where "cOmMuNiCaTiOn" would work. Then we realized we were unwittingly placed in a mind game. Onward and upward ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/21 01:13 PM
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I think watching this may have been the worst mistake of my life 🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 03:45 AM
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I don't wanna 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 03:13 AM
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You got out before having more than one awful encounter like that. You may have saved yourself months, maybe years of misery because he had other nice qualities before you had sex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/21 03:37 AM
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A lot of men lie about that. It's best to see how they react (if the subject comes up) to see their opinion. If they talk about it a lot or joke about it a lot, they probably use it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/21 03:32 AM
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I am completely turned off at this point and don’t know if I even want to continue talking to him? Listen to your body. You might have "the ick" (Shallon Lester term). It doesn't go away.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/21 03:23 AM
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Honestly, I feel like his not finishing is another symptom of pornsickness. If it is the first time and he is very turned on, I would expect a man to be able to finish (especially if he is attracted to who he has been dating the past few months). 🤔 OP's description of his lack of consideration is concerning as well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/21 03:20 AM
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Translation: "I'm too lazy to court and get to know you, so let me expose you to STDs and pregnancy for my own selfish pleasure. If I don't want to see you again, it's because we didn't have chemistry." (Funny how he enjoyed the sexual encounter 🤔) Aka "next" these guys.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/02/21 11:50 PM
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I am so angry for you. It is beyond comprehension how someone can act like a complete monster, and how the people who were supposed to protect you chose to fail. It is literally evil. I'm so sorry you went through it. Thank you for warning us about the gut feeling. Women are trained to invalidate ourselves, but we're fighting back!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/02/21 02:03 PM
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At least it wasn't a field 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/01/21 06:22 PM

We have received some comments about whether or not a politician is a HVM. We cannot possibly determine if a man is HV from a distance. It is also ok to agree to disagree about HV politicians and public figures. However, this is NOT a political forum (aside from discussion of women's global human rights). Please respect all members and keep the discussion to particular high-value/low-value actions of a person. Some figures discussed may not perfectly embody FDS, but we can point out aspects of a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 05:09 AM
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Same thing happened to me, sis. It's a theme for some reason. They lust after (or pretend to lust after) the exact opposite of who they have. It's sick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/21 04:58 AM
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I'm so sorry that happened to you. 😢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/21 08:07 PM
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Sometimes the dating landscape is so bad we look and say "the men can't be that bad, can they?" As we wade deeper, we start to pickme and justify red flags with "he is real with me/not putting up a fake front!" Thank goodness you withdrew before actually seeing him. I know I have been guilty of this in the past. Block and delete at the first warning sign!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/21 05:34 PM
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It sounds like he took some crappy song about "save me from myself" and thought ot would make a grand romantic gesture 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/21 05:25 PM
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He wants her to cover half his mortgage payments. I cannot. 🤭🤭🤭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/21 01:55 PM
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What you're describing is right on the nose with Patricia Evans' book The Verbally Abusive Relationship. Whe talks about Reality I (every verbal interaction is a fight to win/abusive) and Reality II (every verbal interaction is to cooperate). LVM generally use Reality I, HVM use Reality II. Women are overwhelmingly socialized to use Reality II, and become confused because they assume LVM are also in Reality II, and their friends tall them they are not "communicating" well enough or whatever." I …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/21 01:45 PM
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Thank you for posting this. ❤ Ladies, be safe out there. Healthy connections are built over time. Don't let men bully you into oversharing about your past. Refusing to overshare about traumas/past experience is NOT lying!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 11:56 PM
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I haven't watched her, but please keep in mind FDS-approved material outside the subreddit/site is not going to be perfect. Even some of my favorite FDS YouTubers say things I disagree with. Take what is helpful (and in line with the handbook) and leave the rest.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 05:44 PM
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It's a classic DARVO and "it's not what I did, it's your reaction to it!" mind games. Chump Lady discusses it a lot.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 04:19 PM
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I hope he is not actually like that and they are making fun of Pickme behavior they have both witnessed? 😬
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 04:17 PM
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It's IMO cruel to call someone the names Natalie called Mike, but I'm wondering what the heck happened leading up to it? He really does seem indifferent to her. I heard a rumor Mike was negging her in the first season ("you're not a Ferrari"). Of course, I hope they actually have a healthy relationship and all the toxicity is scripted/untrue.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 04:15 PM
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Exactly!! All the work of dating is shoved onto us these days.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 01:29 PM
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Yes, this clownery of the red pill has been prominent for years. In the documentary, she interviewed the most prominent MRA voices. One of them, a woman, was drunk 🤡 CW for the ladies here: At the end, there is a very graphic scene. For the record, I do not support forced male circumcision.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 01:55 AM

NSFW tag added due to possible triggering content in the image.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 12:27 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/kywgl2/honestly_i_need_a_full_series_of_this_a_modern/ 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/21 12:04 AM
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I'm in full support. Very few men on 90DF (if any) are FDS dating material 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/21 09:17 PM
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Her documentary "The Red Pill" was sickening.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/21 09:09 PM
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Men get upset but often blame others/situations (externalize) when they are rejected. Women often internalize it and see it as a reflection of self-worth.
/r/askFDS21/01/21 01:44 PM
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Is she implying relationships with men tend to skew toward her paying for everything? Fascinating. I wonder if women of celebrity status have just as much or more pressure to do Pickme things because of their resources and success. And fragile popularity with a fickle audience 🤷🏼‍♀️ I would also love to hear more takes on this from women who date women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/21 01:09 AM
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"BuT i'M jUsT lIkE sPoCk" 🤭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 01:36 PM
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This is a brilliant summary. I especially love how 3 and 4 unapologetically debunk why a lot of our users beat themselves up. We don't withhold the "girlfriend/wife experience" (barf) at first because we want them to suddenly realize we have value and attach themselves. We withhold because we want to make sure the man deserves it. ^ shout it from the rooftops! This is why we should never label a man "HVM" early on. This sets us up for a Pickme mindset. You want to know sooner rather than later i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 03:45 AM
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Pickmes will say "but it's the thought that counts!" And "it's just money!" The irony is a low-effort proposal = no thought, and it does not have to cost a fortune. A lot of "broke" men spend money on weed and vidya games IMO
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/21 12:37 AM
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I heard The Beauty Myth and Female Chauvinist Pigs are good books. I never read them though.
/r/askFDS20/01/21 12:04 AM
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This is a good question, and I'm not sure I will be able to do it justice with an answer. However, I do have some thoughts. By following FDS and leveling up, you are actively unlearning societal messages and learning a new way to exist. Most of us grew up with Disney fairytales, pickme family/friends, and romantic comedies with an "uptight" female lead who "lets her guard down for Mr. Right." Never mind how the men in rom coms are often negging jerks. In previous generations, women were often ta…
/r/askFDS20/01/21 12:02 AM
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It is extremely selfish to have a girlfriend when there is a female "friend" like this in the picture. Sure, the girlfriend is acting like a pickme, but let's not excuse this man's brazen cruelty here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 03:44 PM

Please repost this in r/AskFDS .
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 05:21 AM
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Thanks for clarifying. I admire your passion and hope your message reaches more women. Stay safe and take breaks as needed ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 04:57 AM
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I used to think this (for safety) but would rather screen with a video call first. Why put in all that effort for a cheap coffee and no food?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/21 02:01 AM
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I have heard the critique that if more female leads are portrayed in media, the men will stop being "strong." That is their own fault IMO.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/21 02:08 PM
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Your time and energy are valuable. Sharing insights with us is different from giving advice to these post writers. Chances are they 1) don't want your advice/want to be validated 2) won't listen and 3) will likely retaliate toward you. Be careful out there. My unsolicited advice is to stop messaging men on Reddit. High risk, low reward.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/21 04:45 AM
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💀💀💀
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/21 03:21 AM
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There is a book "Daily Wisdom for Why Does He Do That?" By Lundy Bancroft with various affirmations. I recommend it. Why Men Love Bitches is great in its first few chapters but I don't recommend the whole book. I do think, however, it is good to internalize these messages from WMLB: not showing men/your enemies the satisfaction of your anger/tears being financially independent keeping your friends, hobbies, and commitments to yourself (even staying at home taking a bath) and not dropping them fo…
/r/askFDS18/01/21 02:12 AM
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Loveisrespect.org has advocates who can help you out. Gather all your important documents/belongings stealthily and put them somewhere safe (e.g. safety deposit box). He seems so occupied with gaming you can probably sneak off once you develop a plan right for you. Seconding not letting him know until the last minute. He might sabotage you or destroy your stuff in retaliation.
/r/askFDS17/01/21 03:10 PM
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He sounds like he was grasping for control too. Controllers will pick the littlest things. Don't let him use his diagnoses as an excuse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/21 01:29 PM
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My post here explains it a bit and has a link to a Yes Means Yes blog: https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/fm5xsr/he_knows_sis/ Tl;dr: they know but don't like the answer. they rationalize it to themselves with cognitive dissonance/misogyny while gaslighting us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/21 03:18 AM
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Brilliant. I need more of these, lol
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/21 02:39 AM
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I'm guessing a curling iron, "flipping" the edges with a flat iron, or using a round brush while blowdrying.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/21 02:58 PM
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Bob's Burgers made fun of bronies a while back : https://youtu.be/vD39_Wd26CA (skip to 2:09). Relevant.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/21 02:54 PM
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That's horrible. I'm so sorry that happened to you. If we did this to men, they would lose it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/21 02:48 PM
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I hate the "love tank" concept. Things like this do not take water volume from the tank, they literally poison the water. Throw the tank away!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/21 02:37 PM
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Yep. Literally had body image issues due to men and women who told me I didn't meet what men wanted. 👎
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/21 02:36 PM
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A+ translation. You could write a stellar collection of things LVM say in this format 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/21 02:30 PM
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I wonder if she feels like she cannot leave (the devil you know vs whatever else is out there). Why get married if you are going to be tortured every second with this?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/21 06:11 AM
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I am in a similar boat. A pregnancy has never been in my future plans. Lots of NVM/LVM want children for the sake of saying they had them, or say they do to widen their options on OLD. Meanwhile, I also see HVM who are great fathers. However, when you vet men, please remember they are NOT entitled to know you are sterilized. Men are not entitled to your health information period, unless it is necessary for a date (e.g. dietary needs). Insist on condoms. They can assume you are fertile all they w…
/r/askFDS16/01/21 02:46 AM
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Good for you on seeking a better fit of a therapist. Remember abusers will try their luck with most if not all women in their dating pool. It is only "attracting" abusers if you put up with their bullshit. You might repel some by projecting health and confidence, but others might see it as a challenge. They literally enjoy "breaking" confident assertive women or naive submissive women. It's super messed up, but if you read Why Does He DO that? by Lundy Bancroft you will see you were right in det…
/r/askFDS15/01/21 03:46 PM
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The problem here isn't just him. It might be time to dump or information-diet anyone else in your life entertaining him. Some of those people may be related to you but not your friends.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/01/21 03:32 PM
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be defensive in a "don't touch my garbage" possum way. 😂😂😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/01/21 03:29 PM
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Shallon Lester's Girl on Top is pretty fundamental. Just ignore the pro-hookup and pro-sexwork bits, which are few and far in-between. You got this 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/01/21 02:24 PM
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Been there, done that. Ogling half naked women and saying you are wrong for disliking that is gaslighting and male privilege. He will make your life miserable if you stick around.
/r/askFDS14/01/21 09:50 PM
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When women mind their own business and live life for themselves (finally!), LVM/NVM often screech. I admire your tenacity and ruthlessness for kicking out the trolls. They act like they're storming a fort on the playground 🤭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 01:30 PM
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I am so so sorry that happened to you. So many of us come to FDS with similar stories; even with men who had fewer "boxes" ticked. Women sadly talk themselves into anything when they have a fear-based decision or are too open-minded with men. Some individuals have a darkness we can sense. I'm glad you got out and realized the truth. I know it took me a long time to learn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 06:38 AM
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This is an awesome observation. Also, ranting is cool here 💝
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 06:30 AM
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I seriously bought this narrative years ago when I was a younger Pickme. "He is distrustful, cold, and mean because other women screwed him over. I need to prove I'm not after his money and not a liar, and then he'll love me! Let me put all my cards on the table 🤡"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 03:41 AM
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Listen to your intuition. Red flags with "no reason" other than your feelings usually have a reason you're not consciously aware of. Gift of Fear talks about it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 03:20 AM
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I am sorry to hear about the tragedies you experienced, and hope 2021 provides you with many blessings and opportunities 💝
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/21 03:14 AM
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Therapy. But. A therapist who supports your having high standards. If you start seeing a therapist who starts justifying something hurtful a LVM/NVM did, address it or dump the therapist. If the therapist is good, they will clarify a misunderstanding or correct themselves, as therapists as not always right. The wrong therapist can further push you into Pickme hell. The right therapist will help you build yourself up and take no shit. Zero shit! Also, know LVM/NVM know what they are doing. They k…
/r/askFDS13/01/21 11:12 PM
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Society brainwashes us into one "ideal" of beauty from Facetune, photoshop, Snapchat filters, literal video filters in movies, and even literal photo editing as early as the first photographs. Get off Vindicta if you are on there. Get off "rate me" subs. Something that helps for me is looking at past standards of beauty/body shape over the past century and before. Twiggy, Jennifer Aniston, Kate Moss, JLo, Cindy Crawford, Kerry Washington, Angelina Jolie and Greta Garbo are all gorgeous but look …
/r/askFDS13/01/21 11:06 PM
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You don't have to prove anything to men. They can assume whatever about you and it doesn't change who you are. Someone who is not worth your time will use this trick to "neg" you or make you work harder to prove them wrong (and thus break down your boundaries). If you read Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker, he talks a bit about this. Remember, you don't have to explain anything to anyone. You can say to us "I walked away because he called me a st" but you don't have to say "I'm walking away from y…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/21 03:01 PM
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I wouldn't even ask him to change. I would walk. The attraction would be zero the first time it happens.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/21 12:48 AM
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It's not you. LVM are often so delusional they will pursue any woman to say they have one. They will date women they like, dislike, etc. It doesn't mean anything when someone who doesn't have his life together approaches you, aside from the audacity. I find myself in the same position and stopped OLD.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/21 04:19 AM
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Back in the day, teen boys used to love th opportunity to snuggle up to a girlfriend or crush at a dance. Now grown men and women tell women to date men they aren't attracted to AND tolerate this behavior as a pickme. Awful.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/21 04:37 PM
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I think she looks beautiful in the before. :/
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/01/21 02:13 PM
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I'm so glad she dumped him and got her skincare back. This is the hateful "fancy drinks" Mason jar guy all over again. 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/01/21 11:40 PM
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Damn, that is very unfortunate! I thought we were talking about his general style of videos. Oof. I hope he gets the help he needs
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 11:53 AM
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Who knows, maybe he speeds up his videos ever so slightly. Or it's real. Either way, it sounds delightful tbh 🤭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 04:35 AM
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Ladies, this is your sign: 🚮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 02:47 AM
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Please spill more tea! I never looked that close at this videos. I'm hoping he does not have a drug problem and just really really likes colognes 🙈
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 02:40 AM
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It's my experience that men "expect something" even if you go 50-50. I refuse to go on dates unless I can reasonably expect he will pay. If he wants to split, I will give my half and never see him again. When men collectively start wearing 10x what a measly dinner would cost on their face and grooming (serum, lotion, foundation, concealers etc. Etc.), then maybe we can talk about 50-50 🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/21 02:23 AM
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People sometimes accuse her of misandry, but the project has nothing to do with wanting to “escape men,” she told me. “I just want to live with and raise children with and be neighbors with people I can count on, people who have my back, people who take care of me when I need help and vice versa. In my own experience, that’s been women.” Great article highlighting women's strengths amidst a pandemic and. Unfair social circumstances. But, can we talk about this passage for a second? Here this wom…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/01/21 04:14 AM
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Thank you for bringing this up-- not only does it drain you, but it doesn't even work!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/01/21 01:38 AM
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ETA: I saw a comment in which a woman replied to OP, "I know my husband would like me better with plastic surgery, but that is my own insecurity." Don't let Pickmes normalize men dating outside their type. Feeling shitty about a body part should not be part of a relationship. Adding insult to injury, this Pickme did the collective misogynistic gaslighting of "if you're insecure, it's your problem."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/01/21 01:34 AM
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Why Does He DO That by Lundy Bancroft. But you being there to process it with her to assure her the behavior is not "normal" or right, but easily hidden by men. Also Emotional Blackmail by Susan Forward, The Verbally Abusive Relationship by Patricia Evans.
/r/askFDS03/01/21 04:10 PM
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PM-ing her now
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 03:10 PM
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Of course she feels no love or affection for him. He is acting like an abusive man-child dictator and leeching off her monetary and emotional resources. I hope she has legal resource to kick him out (e.g. no squatter's rights in his favor).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 03:04 PM
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Karma hit him tenfold 🤭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 02:37 PM
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Yes, and sometimes LVM/NVM really are unpredictable and defy logic (like turning up asshole behavior from 4/10 to 11/10 if you dare question them). Good riddance!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 02:30 PM
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This is brilliant. I don't know how I missed this. Thank you for showing me this, and /u/circescircus is on point 👸🏻
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 02:08 PM
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Right, other men can actually mean such a phrase. This LVM is obviously not happy with how she looks, and if I were her I would think he was not genuine if he said he was happy with her
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 02:07 AM
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Imagine if women had half the hubris: "I REALLY don't like blonde men! Why can't you grow a beard? Aww babe, your bare face is just as good! (Proceeds to follow non-blonde guys' beard fan pages on IG and send 😍 emojis)."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 02:05 AM
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I'd rather him not lie to me so I can dump him, lol. I will be alone or date a man who thinks I'm a goddess!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 02:02 AM
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Exactly. Women aren't digital avatars, contrary to popular belief.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 12:30 AM
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😂😂😂 "you mean women get to choose men they're attracted to??"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/21 12:28 AM
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I remember thinking "they can't all be this bad, right?" Obviously not all men, but there are A LOT of psychologically unhealthy/abusive men out there, and I severely underestimated.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 10:22 PM
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Thank you. I was on mobile and it was difficult to parse out some things with the current speakers
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 09:52 PM
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"Baaaabe, I want to take you to the city/museum/ice cream parlor someday!" And some day never happens, and you realize you are sitting on a couch watching him play video games 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 05:40 PM
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"Male attention is abundant and no value." ¯_( ツ)_/¯
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 05:18 PM
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Even if they do actually date you, they can proclaim how you are just their type, blablabla then dump you a year or so later. Words are empty.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 05:12 PM
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I'm embracing being a "bitch" 2021! 💯
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 04:25 PM
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You did the right thing. Even older men, who you would expect to have some chivalry/"old-fashioned" respect can and do the same mind games the young men do. It has nothing to do with you. I know it hurts so bad, but you have a big heart and he was not receptive nor deserving. He should have disagreed without being disrespectful, and his disagreeing period shows a LVM bad match. So sorry you went through this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 04:14 PM
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Literally sexual abuse, physically harming someone because "I kNoW wHaT i'M dOiNg." Trash.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 04:01 PM
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So did the other woman stay with him? She looked at a loss for words.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 03:52 PM
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Part two: Host: Where's the car? Girlfriend: (unintelligible) Where's the car? Boyfriend: it got towed... Girlfriend: How am I going to pay for this? Boyfriend: I'll pay for it. Girlfriend: With WHAT? Boyfriend: I'll get money from my mom... Girlfriend: Yes, you can go back living with your mom, too. Boyfriend: Sorry... Girlfriend: Yeah. Host: what has he been telling you? Other woman: I mean if I would have known, I would have, you know, no. It's... (covers mouth). I don't... I don't wanna-- I'…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 03:52 PM
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Part one: Host: He's supposed to be at school. The school she's paying for, you're with this woman. Do you have any explanation for that? Boyfriend: (unintelligible mumbling) Girlfriend: What are you doing-- Host: This is the girl living with you. (To other woman) Did you know he has a girlfriend? Other woman: You're living with her?? Host: Oh, so she didn't know! So she didn't know that you were living with her? Boyfriend: No...? I didn't want to hurt anybody. Girlfriend: You "didn't want to hu…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 03:39 PM
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Making one!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 03:38 PM
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I can't find it. Titled that?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/21 04:51 AM
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That is horrible. Tinder is not worth it IMO
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 01:54 PM
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"FaIr" uggghh! I hate that word in this context. Also, I wish she politely excused herself instead of mocking him and possibly being at greater risk of getting attacked (not victim blaming, but seriously she needed to get OUT). Even listening to him rant was positive reinforcement for him, probably. ETA: Just saw she wrote she was de-escalating prior to leaving. I get it now. Smart.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 01:52 PM
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This one! #HeAintTheOne2021🥳
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/01/21 03:20 AM
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Your therapist sounds like a keeper with that statement!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/12/20 02:04 AM
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IMO, men are praised for being mediocre in the dating realm, while women are criticized for not being "perfect" enough. Women are told they need to lose weight, gain weight, get plastic surgery, be natural, communicate more, speak less, work out, not get too muscular, wear more makeup, wear less makeup, read minds, be more picky, be less picky, be more sexual, be less sexual, wear nice clothes/jewelry, not be too materialistic, have long hair, not take too long getting ready, be less intelligent…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/20 09:08 PM
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I seriously regret dating before age 18. Maybe 25. This boy is not "all that." No man is worth crying over like this. Please free yourself to focus on school, career, friends, your hobbies, and other things that make you happy.
/r/askFDS27/12/20 08:34 PM
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She wants to be the problem so she can change herself and thus "fix it." You can't change a man, so Pickmes go this route IMO. Add low self-esteem and misogynistic societal brainwashing ("women are too picky!") and she wants to learn to be happy with less. "How dare I ask for more when I'm not perfect?" We failed our girls somehow 😔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/20 05:51 AM
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❤❤❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/20 04:30 AM
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This is a great question. I’m very much a giver and a pleaser in romantic relationships I feel this so hard. But I became permanently burned out, especially after finding FDS. I had to read here daily to actively deprogram myself from the man-pleasing mindset and learn to receive without reciprocating the same and then some. Dating isn't a meritocracy where you have to overachieve to be "worthy," nor would men make good judges of such a system. Wondering if having amazing chemistry with someone …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/20 02:22 AM
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You're not an idiot. There is nothing wrong with you or your body. You were gaslighted by society and assumed this man was not pornsick. Women today are facing a huge wave of young men with porn-induced ED and weird porny sexual requests, then we're told by the media "porn is harmless.". Also, how dare he use his phone during intimacy?? Even if it was actually games, why would he want to "last longer" during a BJ? To injure your jaw and give you TMJ? He is so undeserving of everything you gave. …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/20 01:48 AM
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Right. They do something disrespectful to you then get mad at you for being upset by it! No thanks. No mind games for me. My pulling away won't magically make a man develop empathy.
/r/askFDS26/12/20 06:27 PM
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Holy sh$&. 🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/20 05:54 PM
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This is what she says about setting boundaries. I feel like this could be misconstrued as mind-reading expectations: There are times when a serious issue arises, and there is a need for a more serious discussion. If and when this situation presents itself, there is still a way of emphasizing your position without nagging or repeating yourself several times. If he asks, “Is something wrong?” take a breath and respond calmly. “Yes, something is wrong, but I’d like to talk about it later. I really …
/r/askFDS26/12/20 05:44 PM
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"Be slightly out of reach" = well yeah, maybe completely out of reach with all this clownery men do 🤣
/r/askFDS26/12/20 04:15 PM
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Right, I feel like the FDS handbook is zero tolerance. Again, I love the core concepts of WMLB, and I know she says not to use these tactics to "jump though hoops" for a man, but ehh. If being in a relationship with a man means I have to cycle through this: Let’s hit the “pause” button. Rewind…now, let’s review play-by-play. Notice how simple it was for Rhonda to get him to realize he needs to give more. He wasn’t nice. He knows he wasn’t nice. He expected her to nag. She didn’t nag. He was unsu…
/r/askFDS26/12/20 04:09 PM
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Tbf, I would have hated it in my past Pickme days, but Idk if I would have thought I was "allowed" to see OnlyFans as a dealbreaker back in the day. I would have definitely left at his interaction with the only fans women. Libfems say nonsense like "at least it's ethical/consensual 🤡" and try to make Pickmes feel bad for not being "woke" on the daily...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 10:22 PM
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/u/throwaway09876642 , we are here for you. It doesn't have to be like this. Dating should be fun and actually benefit the woman as well as the man. You are way too valuable to be dealing with someone who treats you like this. You deserve better!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 10:20 PM
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"VALIDATE ME 🤡"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 10:06 PM
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Interesting theories in the YouTube comments: that the "boyfriend" w as a stalker and the "gf" didn't know how to get away, that the "boyfriend" was actually a pimp(!) Etc. I never know what to believe on these YouTube shock channels. I hope the woman was ok. I got bad vibes from the video regardless of how fake it may have been.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 03:21 PM
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This makes a lot of sense, albeit depressing. IMO the only male dating coach I think is on point these days is Derrick Jaxn. He really seems pro-women's benefit and not afraid to call men out.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 06:40 AM
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What was "mild" love bombing for you? Just curious. Hope you have a swift recovery!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/20 06:20 AM
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LVM will literally tell you white is black and black is white in order to "win" a discussion. The adversarial mindset is so abusive and toxic. Avoid.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/20 03:41 PM
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Agreed. It sucks so hard, but if he's LV, there's nothing OP could do to change it.
/r/askFDS24/12/20 03:24 PM
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They enjoy conquering a strong woman and lowering her sense of self-worth. It's like buying a beautiful piece of fine china and throwing it on the floor. To have nice things, you have to take care of them. LVM do not understand that nor want to.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/20 08:06 PM
54

FDS IN A NUTSHELL 😍😍😍
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/20 04:30 PM
24

You can buy sterling silver or steel rings for $10 or $15 online. Give me a break.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/20 02:14 PM
18

My favorite bio description about this kind of situation is "feminist: not the fun kind."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/20 03:39 AM
9

"mY eX cHeAtEd On Me" and other sob stories early on = "Dance pretty like a pick me! I'm going to praise you for 'not being like her' and demanding less. Joke's on you-- I'm going to get comfortable and ultimately do less for you (dinners out, taking you to work/family events). 🤡"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/20 03:00 AM
3

"I'm smudging my house tonight" 😂😂😂 Epic.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 04:38 PM
6

It's real LOL https://www.realtalkcandles.com/product-page/ps5-smells-like-you-re-not-getting-one
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 02:22 PM
8

Loving this energy!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 02:21 PM
327

"Looking for friends, maybe more" "See where things go" "I'm a laid back pizza and couch kinda guy" 🤡🤡🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 02:03 PM
266

Meanwhile, Pickmes are taught love takes time, and men want casual because they are checking for compatibility too 🤡 The truth is literally in front of us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 02:01 PM
1

Hang in there ❤
/r/askFDS22/12/20 06:35 AM
14

So glad you are ok! ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 05:31 AM
10

Ladies, trust your gut!! If you don't take anything else from FDS, don't buy into the "emperor's new clothes" BS.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 05:29 AM
2

Good goodness, that was brilliant 😭🤣 hahaha! Sofa especially sounds tragic. It all makes so much sense, as I only heard Shape of You and felt annoyed. River sounds "dark" and "edgy." 🤡 I could see it bothering me less if it was like a "persona."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/20 02:53 AM
2

Sometimes it takes several tries to get the right one. Listen to your intuition as best as you can .
/r/askFDS21/12/20 05:51 PM
2

I strongly recommend speaking to a therapist about this. But, in the meantime, I do want to say it shouldn't be this hard.
/r/askFDS21/12/20 03:04 PM
3

TW: This man was accused of animal cruelty by FKA twigs. Trash behavior!! Idfc if you are "in character" for a role.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 02:18 PM
22

Hashtag neverforget how movies promote shitty stereotypes to make women feel bad for having standards, when the male characters who don't meet their standards are still misogynists
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 02:14 PM
31

I'm deceased now 😂🤣😂🤣😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 02:09 PM
8

Amazing work! You deserve your best life 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 01:52 PM
8

I wonder if she would be receptive to Chump Lady. With cheaters, if it happens with you, it will happen to you 😔 This man seems to like the thrill of sneaking around and a shiny new toy. Gross.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 01:51 PM
11

Please tell me more about how Ed Sheehan lyrics are toxic 🙈. (I'm not rely a fan of his). I feel like his narrative was "poor me, I'm a nice guy and get rejected. Let me perform in the most casual clothes while Beyonce performs in the same show with an expertly choreographed dance, 24k gold confetti and fireworks on her outfit."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/20 01:48 PM
3

Having to initiate all the time and not being romanced will reduce your sex drive IMO. Please do not blame yourself; it just is. A lot of women talk about how they believed they had a low drive until circumstances changed. If things stayed the same with you and him (low sex drive, feeling irritated when he is affectionate) could you go on longer? If it stayed the same in 3 months? 6 months? A year? 5 years?
/r/askFDS21/12/20 01:45 PM
15

Thank you for sharing this. It's couple goals! I'm glad he is recovering well. Wishing you and your family a happy, healthy holiday ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/12/20 11:47 PM
21

Your username is delightful 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/12/20 11:44 PM
2

How does your libido react by yourself versus around him?
/r/askFDS20/12/20 11:04 PM
13

The audacity!! 🤬 His f@#%ing loss. Your post shows you know your worth and aren't afraid to confront a situation when faced with the truth. Good for you walking away instead of engaging with that man. I hope the 18 year old has some loved ones to warn her about predatory men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/12/20 07:14 AM
5

Patriarchy conditions us to think we are "wrong" if we are not attracted to a "nice guy." Look at "romance" movies. You don't owe any man your time, money, intimacy, whatever, even if you gave it before. He said himself he stopped dating you (IMO meaning taken for granted) and is not financially stable. LVM traits . This relationship is not providing you, a woman, maximum benefit as a tenet of FDS. It is a sucky situation, and he can be well-meaning/not evil/have nice ways yet still not be right…
/r/askFDS19/12/20 06:21 PM
15

🤣 you're not wrong
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 04:08 PM
32

Thank you for sharing. OLD is trash in my experience. The vast majority of men on there should be in therapy instead of dating...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 03:35 PM
1

He sounds like a hottie! Good for you 💪
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 03:31 PM
9

"B-but, men age like fine wine and women expire after 25!!" = their thinking. Such a disgusting, untrue cope.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 03:27 PM
3

He sounds pornsick and brainwashed by the manosphere 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 03:27 PM
22

OP, please check out this Dear Sugar column: https://therumpus.net/2011/06/dear-sugar-the-rumpus-advice-column-77-the-truth-that-lives-there/ Tl;dr: wanting to leave is enough. In the meantime, let's break down your concerns: "It feels like we're not going anywhere. And he said he "forgot" to date me." Your gut feeling is important! "I'm really struggling to justify leaving him because he is so wonderful, loving and caring in many ways." Relationships and feelings are not a court nor a democrati…
/r/askFDS19/12/20 02:01 PM
6

OP deleted her post, but thank goodness there was a comment referring her to DV resources. This is so sad. I hope she is ok 😞
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 01:32 PM
8

Yes, also men who are only friends with women tend to have them around to "orbit." This guy may settle for "a friend" because his romantic/sexual interest was not mutual.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 05:12 AM
2

🤢🤢🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/20 01:37 AM
48

/u/kendrassia700 you deserve so much better. I'm wondering if he has been degrading your looks for years. It's incomprehensible how he would do this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/20 10:24 PM
60

🤮🤮🤮 Blasphemy!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 10:49 PM
8

DM me too please!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 10:44 PM
8

Lol @ the men trying to post on here about "both sides" and how calling women "Karens" or "gold diggers" is somehow on par with women worrying about rape, murder, getting their drinks spiked, not being believed after sexual assault, etc.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 10:34 PM
5

"Yankee noodle" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 01:34 PM
11

One of the most beautiful women I have ever seen IRL had grey hair. She was legit stunning.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/20 01:09 PM
15

In a nutshell 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/20 12:00 PM
18

Lol someone reported this for "misinformation" 😂 They can die mad.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/20 03:05 PM
13

That's disappointing. I liked their video commercials. Imagine catering to incels to get them to wash.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 01:18 PM
3

😳 I... why is everything owned by everyone?? I do wonder about Billie as a good alternative :) Any experiences?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/20 01:16 PM
10

The. Audacity.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/20 01:15 PM
3

🤣🤣🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/20 02:34 PM
2

He wants a sugar momma 🤢
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/20 02:33 PM
10

If he loved her, he wouldn't even think of asking or telling her these things. It is insane...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/20 02:29 PM
15

"I'll only do things with her you don't like!" = making her feel even more like sh*t because he is getting "needs" from another woman she will not provide 🤮 Dump him. He does not love you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/20 02:27 PM
7

I wouldn't be on board with that tbh. Who knows if they hooked up or had sexual tension.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/20 01:42 PM
11

This is what I would do. No tolerance for bullshit.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/20 01:40 PM
12

I hope it's just satire. Otherwise it is super disappointing...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/20 01:39 PM
19

I remember an ex acting like I was asking for too much when I wanted to chill and play video games 🤡 I was very young, but thought the words "I love you" meant something from him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 01:40 PM
4

I respect David Futrelle from WeHuntedtheMammoth because he exposes and mocks how this stuff has been going on the past 10 years. Paul El_m, Warren F_rrel, Christina H_ff S_mmers, Stephan Molyne_x, Karen Str_ughan, etc (along with that awful The Red Pill "documentary" with Cassie Jay acting as Pickme Supreme ) . I had to stop frequenting those spaces, even the ones with the Dave Futrelle filter, because they misogyny is exhausting and overwhelming. For me, the red pill abuse and misogyny became …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/11/20 01:57 AM
25

You walked through the trenches to get us this 😭 thank you! I saw someone post how men will recommend saying "I miss you" for a booty call. Nothing is sacred anymore.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/20 01:53 AM
2

I sat in the driveway too. He wasn't yelling and calling me names, but he was so cold. Never again.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 09:08 PM
32

😂😂😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 02:34 PM
159

Remember, they believe women not having sex with men is literal genocide 🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 02:33 PM
61

They are reporting this post for "hate" and comparing us to RedPill 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 02:32 PM
97

kickhimout2021
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/20 01:12 PM
4

😭 Beautifully written. Thank you so much for sharing this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/11/20 11:36 AM
11

Welcome. You deserve so much more in your life, and I'm so glad you found us 💗🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/20 12:01 PM
3

It's not easy. But you're here! You can do it 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/20 04:09 AM
14

Identifying as asexual or demisexual is legitimate (IMO) but also a great way to "legitimize" opting out of heterosexual sex. A lot of people feel they need a label to justify their lifestyle choices. Otherwise, what do women get out of sex? Dating men they are not attracted to (and cringe at their touch), not getting an orgasm, not having a fulfilling romantic connection, not having physical affection, possibly getting strangled/injured, feeling degraded from porny sex acts, feeling insecure be…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/11/20 01:26 AM
2

LVM use Love Languages as an excuse to be stingy with affection/reciprocation. I agree there should be all 5 in a relationship.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/11/20 12:07 PM
5

It sounds like pornsick, robotic, boring sex with no romance or love. :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/11/20 02:18 AM
15

I think a lot of men on DB don't understand their disrespectful behavior has likely permanently turned off their wives. They are completely oblivious to the fact women are not turned on by men who make them feel unsafe, insecure, and/or drained.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/11/20 12:30 AM
17

😂😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/11/20 12:11 PM
16

Thank you. I wondered why it bothered me so much too.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/11/20 12:11 PM
2

You're welcome! 🥰 I think we can all relate to your dilemma. The truth is a man can have one or two GREAT qualities yet not be the one for us. I can tell you from experience where I dated a LVM who definitely was good with my emotions/sensitivity, but was LV in other ways. Again, I am a stranger on the internet, so what do I know compared to the data you have? Whatever the outcome, your gut is going to be the best predictor. You got this! ❤
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 08:20 PM
2

Glad you are looking at his behavior so closely! And your self work is evident. Are you on the same wavelength with him, or do you see/talk so little you can fill in the details with what you want him to be? Not trying to be harsh, just speaking as someone who once was 20 and would vibe with guys who...just faded out and ghosted. And then maybe I would get a lame apology (or non-apology explanation) 5 months later. Chemistry is seductive, and it is very easy for our minds to assume we have 1000 …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 05:02 AM
4

It's one of the things that hurts so much with a fuckboy
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 04:57 AM
3

It's called a breakup because it's broken. He's jerking you around. Focus on your dream job and screw him. I would go full NC and block. You're not his unpaid emotional support. If he was the one, he wouldn't have put you through so much and given you those mixed signals. Anything other than "hell yes" is a "hell no."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 04:55 AM
7

I think this warrants an AskFDS post :)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 04:51 AM
6

I'm so sorry about your PTSD. I hope you have a therapist who can be by your side as you process all this. It's not your fault and you sound very conscious of how your actions may affect others. As a stranger on the internet, I would like to point this out: But I want to make sure I'm not projecting any of my pain into him. I want to make sure I'm communicating healthily and sometimes it takes me backing up so I can sort through my painful feelings before I can interact in a more healthy way. In…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 04:19 AM
13

Is there something about him triggering your PTSD? Needing a week off from a bf is an alarm to me . I am afraid he is hurting you tbh. IMO LDRs suck for women because it's emotional labor with none of the physical benefits. No man needs to know about your PTSD, especially before you deeply get to know him over a period time. You don't know if HE is decent yet, so don't tell them your Achilles heel. You don't need to justify if you want space. YOU are precious and valuable. A man who knows your w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/11/20 04:57 PM
7

Amen. IMO men who ignore you while being active on social media act like trash. With friends, it can be different, but someone in an intimate relationship needs consistency...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/11/20 04:53 PM
16

You don't have to confess anything to men. Your past does not have to define you, first of all. Your past gives you knowledge, empathy and wisdom for those who have been through the same. You don't ever have to tell a man about your past. Sure, the right one will not judge, but hold your cards close and let dates reveal their cards first. I would wait a year at least to share anything if at all. Why does a man need to know how many boyfriends you had? Past mistakes? No. Be general and vague beca…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/11/20 04:50 PM
15

Venus envy!!! This is brilliant 😭
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/11/20 01:01 PM
1

This sounds like a poor version of a Seth Rogan comedy 🤡
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/11/20 03:13 AM
3

120 lb max for a 5'5" woman? This man is demanding a woman be on the thinner side to underweight. Wow.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/11/20 01:44 AM
3

I'm so sorry. Glad that trash is out of your life-- the entitlement is beyond. I hope your health is ok!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/11/20 12:09 AM
99

If you have family and/or friends who love and respect you, you have love 💗 Don't sweat men. Biological urges to have a mate can absolutely suck. But, you can survive and thrive without a romantic partner and have an equally full life. 🌴🏖⛵
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/11/20 03:42 AM
51

You deserve so much better! 🥰 Your time and presence are not to be wasted on someone so entitled and lazy. I'm sorry that happened to you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/11/20 03:38 AM
29

He caused drama by not supporting you IMO. of course you're going to be emotional! I'm so sorry for your loss.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/20 12:05 PM
63

Women have been duped so badly in this generation: "be a partner, help him save money, cook for him, clean for him, split 50-50, put him first always, earn his respect" 🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/20 01:34 AM
37

We complain about men acting rude/abusive and they... criticize our costumes 🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 11:18 PM
4

I think this is an unfortunate mindset...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 07:58 PM
57

Deleted comment from a man: "You realize not all men can afford what you want? 🥺" Cool story, but I don't want them 🤣 I'm not showing up with $200 worth of makeup/skincare alone (nevermind clothes and jewelry) for your dusty ass to take me on a "walk" or "drink date."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 07:40 PM
32

Yes! You are the woman men pursue after they self-improve. You are the prize 🥰
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 02:55 PM
109

Exactly! Like Shallon Lester says, would you show up to a job (without an offer/internship), work for free, and hope they maybe will pay you? Hell no. Don't give girlfriend privileges when you're not a girlfriend, and don't give wife privileges when you're not a wife.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 02:54 PM
12

I can't deal with men who have "no opinion" and you can tell they are trying to please you. Then when they let out their REAL thoughts, it is passive-aggressive and mean. These men act like you are a harpy shrew henpecking and emotionally abusing them, when in reality they make themselves walk on eggshells from Day 1. IME no amount of coaxing, building up, encouraging, will make them "come out of their shell" and "be themselves" around you. 🤢 I only like brave men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 01:25 PM
25

🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 01:22 PM
331

Strike one: Rude when he was waiting at a table while you were in the rain. Strike two: Talks about exes and tries to get brownie points by speaking "positively" about them. Strike three: a history of "Barbara the Builder" exes Strike four: using you as a therapist Strike five: triangulation to make you compete for "the one" Strike six: using you for emotional labor then INSULTING you by suggesting something "casual," despite saying he eventually wants to settle down with someone Strike seven: s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 01:16 PM
55

Smile, pay for yours, and block him 😊. Low effort and not worth your time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/20 12:44 AM
5

Imagine a world of just those men ! FDS would probably be obsolete.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/10/20 01:32 PM
58

Agreed. Conversely, be VERY wary of men who identify as "feminists." IMO they tend to expect bouquets thrown at them for basic human decency (the facade of "decency" is shallow and tempoary). Or, they expect libfem "liberation" and "kinkiness." The most feminist men I meet do not identify as anything, sit and listen to women's issues, and do not pretend to be experts on anything they do not know about (including women's rights/issues).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/10/20 01:06 AM
65

Thank you. I have gotten so much shit from WOMEN for being upset over this kind of scenario. If I'm not his type, I don't want to be with him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/10/20 11:06 AM
65

The most recent changes I’ve noticed, even more recent than the sex stuff, is men’s hygiene and effort taking a total dive. Well that's depressing. Sis, remember when basic hygiene and grooming was "metrosexual" in the 2000s? 🤣
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 11:28 PM
15

I am so sorry you went throught that, queen. Hugs if you want them. I was a teen in the 2000s and I feel even then it was different 😥
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 11:26 PM
4

I think they meant 6 feet tall? Just a guess though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 11:05 AM
45

I'd rather be rude than dead.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/10/20 01:22 AM
82

These are so eye opening. Please keep them coming. This is why the "he wouldn't be with you if he thought [insert negative thing here]" saying falls flat. A man being "with" you is not even the bare minimum. A man must actively invest in you to earn you. 💅 Pure speculation: Maybe the gf feels an emptiness in the relationship deep down. Or, she has been brainwashed to think there isn't a difference between dating/marriage, and she treated what should have been fun "dating" as a "marriage" from th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/10/20 04:45 AM
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