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1

I recommend just going with that feeling and buying more PUA material.
/r/seduction01/08/15 10:38 PM
1

1k thumbs up and 16 thumbs down. Great work BHW!
/r/seduction01/08/15 10:37 PM
1

I disagree with your assessment about screaming your favorite time. I think doing that in public is a great AA breaker.
/r/seduction01/08/15 10:34 PM
1

Boring is just a reflection of not having your inner game down good enough yet.
/r/seduction01/08/15 10:33 PM
1

Nah, your money is much better spent at one of the PUA boot camps. They tend to range in price from $2000-$3000 several hours of intensive in-field training. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for life.
/r/seduction01/08/15 09:58 PM
2

I recommend college dormitories/libraries/public facilities. Doesn't even matter what college, it's a demographic game.
/r/seduction01/08/15 09:55 PM
-1

Could you please stop hurting people trying to improve their lives? Thanks.
/r/seduction01/08/15 09:53 PM
-1

If your game is good enough, she's always interested.
/r/seduction01/08/15 09:51 PM
0

Better if you daygame as aggressively as possible. As a rule of thumb, start talking within three seconds, and escalate kino within 60 seconds.
/r/seduction01/08/15 09:41 PM
-1

I think your chances are directly proportional to the quantity of game-related materials you have purchased.
/r/seduction01/08/15 09:39 PM
-3

You aren't gaming hard enough. You need to buy one of the newer systems and fully commit yourself to the PUA cause.
/r/seduction01/08/15 09:38 PM
-1

You have clearly not sufficiently maintained game. Your oneitis is stupid and you look stupid. Push harder, play more aggressively, and move on.
/r/seduction01/08/15 09:37 PM
0

You're doing a lot of things right, but my guess here is that you aren't escalating kino quickly enough.
/r/seduction25/02/14 03:24 PM
-5

Do not message her. Make her message you by not sending her any messages and making her run risk of loss. That way things stay in your control.
/r/seduction25/02/14 03:24 PM
0

I would just go an entire conversation without being the one to break eye contact once. Then one day. Then two days. Then a week. Then you're golden.
/r/seduction24/02/14 08:00 PM
3

Yes, she should be the one breaking it every single time. You're asserting dominance and making an advance here.
/r/seduction24/02/14 07:59 PM
1

I see nothing wrong with approaching in the gym, but as long as we're on this topic, didn't The Game advocate not going to the gym and spending that time working on pickup material instead? I seem to remember a lengthy passage where Mystery beats out a muscular gymrat on The Bachelor using dancing skills and as a result I have modeled my approach to this issue based on that reality.
/r/seduction24/02/14 07:58 PM
6

Totally.
/r/seduction24/02/14 07:56 PM
1

5 approaches is a great start but I think that in time you could probably triple that. Great work!
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:42 PM
-5

I recommend Inner Game audiotapes by either Tyler Durden or David DeAngelo. A pickup bootcamp would also work.
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:41 PM
7

I thought one of PUA's main points is that we SHOULDN'T listen to what women say they want from relationships as what they say they want and what they actually want frequently differ.
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:39 PM
1

There's nothing in PUA literature that would support this.
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:29 PM
1

Good catch.
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:09 AM
1

You seem like a guy who knows his massive cash- and time- sinking scams.
/r/seduction23/02/14 07:56 PM
5

Sounds excellent. DiCarlo really is a good guy and a credible source and I've gotten a lot of utility out the things he's written.
/r/seduction23/02/14 07:54 PM
1

This is one of those things you really have to commit to in one direction or the other. Either text relentlessly and satisfy the tenet of persistence or don't text and all and capitalize by having her risk loss. Either of those will work well.
/r/seduction23/02/14 07:52 PM
14

Google "DiCarlo escalation ladder" and learn that front to back.
/r/seduction23/02/14 07:39 PM
1

I would again emphasize the fact that she's not interested and tell her that you don't like having your time wasted. Then she will be forced to commit to saying she is interested.
/r/seduction23/02/14 07:37 PM
2

Whatever works.
/r/seduction23/02/14 07:34 PM
1

Intense eye contact, ideally 85-95% of the time.
/r/seduction23/02/14 05:22 PM
1

It's DEFINITELY a shit test. If anything, it tells you that her mind had already imagined the two of you having sex-an image which normally you have to work to instill in her head. Keep pushing forward and it will happen.
/r/seduction23/02/14 04:50 PM
3

Would "always" work as an answer to your question? Why not game old female acquaintances/contacts? I feel like this creates a "nothing to lose" situation? Just run slowly escalating game on old acquaintances over days or weeks...and do it for multiple women. You might be surprised at how successful you will be at turning nothing ino something through old contacts.
/r/seduction23/02/14 04:47 PM
0

As with any write up like this, the information is limited and the reader can offer only their best guess based on their interpretation of the events that occurred. My best advice: escalate kino substantially more quickly and aggressively.
/r/seduction23/02/14 02:37 PM
1

The important thing to remember is that the PUA movement and the sex it will certainly bring you are the long-term solution to any confidence problems you may be having.
/r/seduction23/02/14 02:35 PM
1

I'm actually very old school and think peacocking, particularly in a club setting, can be extremely effective. As demonstrated by the extreme popularity of Lady Gaga, people are drawn to and entertained by clothing that's out of the norm. Your goal is to exploit this for sex. I would recommend wearing no less than 3 articles of clothing that will draw attention to yourself. Possible ideas: large belt clip, top hat, skateboard, beard, eye paint (like the kind hitters use in baseball), monocle, un…
/r/seduction23/02/14 02:25 PM
2

Congratulations! If she puts up any resistance from this point then use your PUA methods for overcoming last-minute resistance. This is going to happen for you buddy, nice work!
/r/seduction23/02/14 02:10 PM
-3

I'm on an iPhone...
/r/seduction23/02/14 04:41 AM
3

Girls claim to hate extreme cockiness but they're also all very attracted to it. Isn't that a bit similar to what you're talking about?
/r/seduction23/02/14 04:32 AM
3

You are absolutely doing something right. Similar to how you may have been nervous approaching attractive women before joining the PUA community, women are now nervous around you due to their attraction. In order to fix this situation, just tell them that's it's completely fine that they find you attractive and that this is nothing they need to be ashamed of. You can also feel free to escalate kino around these types of women as it might help them realize their feelings are not going completely …
/r/seduction23/02/14 04:27 AM
0

Don't stop there. You want to fit into DD's cocky funny-as long as you're funny the cockier the better.
/r/seduction23/02/14 01:58 AM
-3

I'm out at the bar sarging right now. I've already had one f-close today and I'm shooting for another.
/r/seduction23/02/14 01:11 AM
1

No boundaries on kiss closes. Worst case she puts up resistance and you're back to square one.
/r/seduction22/02/14 05:46 PM
-1

A very generalized answer for everyone would be "lack of skill with PUA material". My largest flaw is sometimes I forget women's names since I sleep with so many of them and a good percentage of those are more or less interchangeable.
/r/seduction22/02/14 05:45 PM
4

Everyone likes parties but I advocate daygame. It's always available and there and anyone can do it. Plus it's more challenging, so it's a great place to improve skills. But in response to your question, why not crash a frat party or two at whatever college is in your town? If you drive around a bit after 11 on a Friday or Saturday night then you will be able to tell which houses are hosting. Then you can either practice sneaking in or using social engineering to get yourself in by claiming you …
/r/seduction21/02/14 07:39 PM
4

My next purchase, looks awesome and informative. How do you guys keep coming up with this stuff?
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:37 PM
1

I thank Neil Strauss.
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:06 PM
1

Use methods described on online PUA forums. A google search of "PUA overcoming resistance" will give you some excellent material to review.
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:01 PM
1

I have never read it. Should I purchase some copies?
/r/seduction21/02/14 05:43 PM
1

If you want to make things physical, go ahead and make them physical by having lots of contact throughout the entire time you are with her. She'll get the picture pretty fast. Push aggressively through the "I see you as a friend" shit test.
/r/seduction21/02/14 05:42 PM
12

I like this. I never see any reason to dumb down your vocabulary when sarging. In fact using many advanced words is a DHV. You might as well use a lot of them.
/r/seduction21/02/14 05:37 PM
0

Request them and perhaps send ones of yourself first to prove that it's ok.
/r/seduction21/02/14 02:23 PM
1

Absolutely. I've gotten to sleep with over a hundred women and it's all thanks to PUA techniques.
/r/seduction21/02/14 01:47 PM
9

Do not tell her about the kiss. That gives her an opportunity to say no or put up a level of resistance that will force you to work extremely hard to bust through it.
/r/seduction21/02/14 01:46 PM
1

It is always about process and not result. Even if you blow through hundreds of unsuccessful sets before a single woman sleeps with you, that's still a victory. You just need to go harder and harder and harder until it clicks completely.
/r/seduction21/02/14 01:44 PM
-23

Why are you online dating? PUA skills are by far most apparent offline, stick to that. If you don't shine during daygame then all your PUA training is a waste. Online dating is way too shallow-and the ratios are so bad for men that almost any girl you find has burned through many, possibly dozens, of guys first.
/r/seduction21/02/14 01:41 PM
3

Game very aggressively in your dorms, dining areas, and classes?
/r/seduction21/02/14 05:53 AM
2

As stated in The Game, every girl is single if your game is good enough. Most of the time when she says she has a boyfriend it's a lie and just another level of resistance you will have to be extremely persistent to break through.
/r/seduction21/02/14 05:52 AM
2

This is why you don't date online-you can't run game online, especially tinder. Exclusively sarge in the field, and almost exclusively daygame-this is where the real PUA skills matter. And appearances do not matter, or matter a completely negligible amount.
/r/seduction21/02/14 05:50 AM
-4

Oneitis is stupid. Study PUA material/sign up for a bootcamp and get to the level where you can get any girl and then sleep with a dozen of them.
/r/seduction21/02/14 01:06 AM
1

Totally man. May I recommend even more inner game audiotapes?
/r/seduction21/02/14 12:08 AM
1

Good on you for pushing through the resistance level.
/r/seduction20/02/14 07:24 PM
3

The title is absolutely true. Be RELENTLESS. It's not like you have anything to lose in these types of situations.
/r/seduction20/02/14 07:16 PM
2

Tyler Durden states in the Blueprint Decoded audiotape that if you don't feel comfortable acting alpha and gaming at work, this is a serious issue with your workplace and you may need to find a new environment. I myself have never had issues gaming reasonably aggressively at work. The key is finding out how to do it in just subtle enough ways that it isn't anything that could be damaging to you in your worst-case scenario.
/r/seduction20/02/14 07:15 PM
2

I would acquire and read through a few text game manuals if possible. That seems to be your leak based on the limited amount of information in the story.
/r/seduction20/02/14 05:45 PM
-7

Hard kino.
/r/seduction20/02/14 05:44 PM
1

I can believe that. It's still a good list. I couldn't personally speak to that one. Although The Game did present a fairly anti-working out position. That's probably what I've used to guide me although I don't think I did that consciously.
/r/seduction20/02/14 05:21 PM
1

You've come to the right place. I'd recommend purchasing either an RSD or Lovesystems bootcamp immediately, or at least an inner game audiotape if you can't swing the bootcamp.
/r/seduction20/02/14 05:08 PM
0

I think this is really pretty good. Let me go point by point: Developing fashion sense is good. Wear tight (or very tight) clothing that accentuates your natural form, regardless of build. It's an evolutionary thing. So many people wear bulky outfits that obscure the form to which women are naturally attracted. It doesn't really matter what you look like, it just matters that you get your body out there. I agree completely. Start conversations with EVERYONE trying to improve your verbal skills. …
/r/seduction20/02/14 05:04 PM
1

I'm with you. Intense eye contact (85-95% of the time) as a sexual advance is also up there. It's the easiest thing to get right and makes a big difference on a subconscious level.
/r/seduction20/02/14 03:24 PM
3

The fact that you have this kind of oneitis goes against what is discussed here. One of our key tenets is VOLUME. Approach everyone you have access to. After several hundred approaches, I guarantee you will walk away with someone more desirable than the one woman in question. Not saying you can't aggressively game this woman as well, but banking on one in particular is asking for disaster.
/r/seduction20/02/14 03:23 PM
5

400mg of caffeine isn't bad. As stated in The Game, NO ALCOHOL. AFC move.
/r/seduction20/02/14 03:19 PM
-1

Your problem is that you're insecure. What you have to do is listen extremely intensely to inner game audiotapes by RSD or David DeAngelo until you're phenomenally secure and completely unrecognizeable from your former self.
/r/seduction20/02/14 03:04 AM
-2

All the bootcamps are a great investment regardless of who the practitioner is. The $2500 sunk cost is nothing when amortized over an entire lifetime of success with women.
/r/seduction20/02/14 03:02 AM
1

Make sure that if you're sarging in a situation in which everyone is drunk that you say completely sober. If you're smart, you can actually use her lack of sobriety to your advantage.
/r/seduction20/02/14 02:59 AM
1

You do not ask someone out over the phone if it was not a #-close. Period.
/r/seduction19/02/14 11:11 PM
1

I'd go with: Tyler Durden (Advanced Inner Game Material as well as Blueprint Decoded) David X David DeAngelo (particularly Deep Inner Game) DiMarco is also a really good idea. Google "DiMarco's Escalation Ladder" for his most core teaching.
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:12 PM
0

Just roll with it and if possible make it even more explicit. One of The Game's primary tenets is that you never want to make it clear to a woman that you like her and always keep her guessing. As a result, your flirting with her may be surprising or confusing. If you text her something more aggressive after she was initially taken aback she is very likely to respond positively.
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:09 PM
2

Remembering everyone's names, especially for women you slept with like 3 times 6 months ago when they text you out of the blue. I lost my phone once but the kept the same number and I was SCREWED. Having active sexual relationships with 12-15 women at a time and remembering what precisely gets everyone off in bed is also very challenging, but possible. Sometimes you can't remember consciously and can just rely on muscle memory.
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:06 PM
0

You have had way, way too little volume to draw any conclusions about practical daygame tactics. Keep pushing onward through your first initial failures and eventually you will be golden. May I suggest investing in an RSD bootcamp? It wouldn't be focused on daygame necessarily but it will put your skills where they need to be.
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:01 PM
0

I am consistently impressed by your knowledge and insight. As we've gone over before, my game is substantially more aggressive than yours but I can respect our difference in approach and chock it up as multiple roads to the same city.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:50 PM
-8

Why throw away an HB unnecessarily? Sure she's not relationship material but I wouldn't mind adding another target to my number.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:24 PM
0

Absolutely not. Don't contact her at all. The key part is creating insecurity and risk of loss on her end after your first sexual encounter. Don't answer a few phone calls and blow her off on the first date after the first time you have sex. You need to make her as insecure as possible if you want to make the FWB setup last.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:11 PM
5

That's great. A lot of people go through a pain period (social embarrassment, even alienation from close friends) when learning the early stages of PUA material. The key part is pushing through this period as aggressively as possible and not looking back. You have to jump face first off the ledge and simply trust that there is a soft cushion just out of view. No pain, no gain.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:07 PM
9

Sounds plausible. My pace since I've joined the PUA lifestyle has been moderately higher than that, but I've had youth on my side and am not entirely sure I can maintain.
/r/seduction19/02/14 06:38 PM
2

I sure hope so man. There's nothing on earth I'd rather do than have sex with that quantity of women.
/r/seduction19/02/14 06:32 PM
2

I respect and admire anyone who has managed to have sex with 400 women. I myself am only in the low 3 digits and would be quite proud if myself if I ever reached a number comparable to yours in my lifetime. If someone claims to have had sex with 400 women, you better freaking believe I do absolutely anything they tell me to do. That's what a credible source in the PUA community looks like.
/r/seduction19/02/14 06:29 PM
8

Hard neg the shit out of her. Open season. Nobody is out of your league. You are an alpha. You know the tricks. Break that bitch shield like glass.
/r/seduction19/02/14 04:51 PM
-1

That's from The Game if I remember correctly. The boyfriend is a shit-test more often than not. It's frequently an early resistance level you have to push through in the cases where it comes up.
/r/seduction19/02/14 04:50 PM
7

For high quality targets, college campus residence/dining halls. Many college residence halls have "group study rooms" that you can go into. It's extremely easy to start conversations by asking for a paper, calculator, supplies, etc. If someone recognizes that you don't live in the immediate vicinity, just say you were visiting someone. Worst case scenario it's a social engineering drill. For run-of-the-mill stuff available to anyone, try starting conversations in coffee shops/bookstores. Partic…
/r/seduction19/02/14 04:43 PM
1

Girls do not want nice guys. This is just evolutionary biology. Re-examine this assumption. I do agree with your point on dominant sex though. It's always a good idea to be pushing the envelope.
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:37 PM
1

It's a neg....
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:15 PM
2

You sound like you're barking up the right tree. Those women put great care into their personal appearances as part of their profession and are often consequently very attractive. They are also VERY approachable. If you go to a large mall, you could go store to store and game one or more women in literally every one. Why not? It's a very easy way to do dozens of daygame approaches. They're trying to sell their thing, you're trying to sell yours.
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:02 PM
4

It's just social conditioning and your friends giving you shit. You smile at whoever you want whenever you want.
/r/seduction19/02/14 02:51 PM
8

Do I really need to say anything? Taking control of one's dating life is alpha behavior, and by religiously following the teachings of PUA gurus I have successfully done this. I'm never seeing anyone in that dining hall again so why would I owe them an explanation? I'm raiding their supply of available women and therefore must be marginalizing some beta male way on down the line (or even some weak alphas, depending on my churn rate). That's really all the explaining I feel like I need to do to t…
/r/seduction19/02/14 02:49 PM
2

Equal opportunity relationships are what we're trying to avoid. We want control of the situation so we can plan for contingencies... The PUA mantra as stated in The Game is "leave her better than she started". As long as you adhere to that principle you can justify almost any behavior. What you perceive as being an asshole are really just efficient and utilitarian attempts to benefit ourselves while achieving this objective. Mistakes may occasionally be made, but this general goal is always in m…
/r/seduction19/02/14 02:38 PM
7

The key thing to always remember is that with sufficient PUA training, NOTHING is awkward. You are always in state, and providing micro body language cues that show that everything is fine and will put all the women around you at ease (as stress levels are controlled unconsciously). You just need to be sufficiently practiced. I am from the US, and I can guarantee you would not look out of place on one of our college campuses at your age (27 and looking younger). I'd just sarge one of the residen…
/r/seduction19/02/14 02:25 PM
10

Congratulations! I am a big daygame guy myself. I would recommend doing as many cold approaches as you can until you get very comfortable (as said by another user on this forum, public transportation is great since you can get within very close physical proximity to others without being suspect). Then, when you've mastered this in an urban setting, I would turn your attention to daygame sarging college campuses. That's where the real high-quality targets are.
/r/seduction19/02/14 02:05 PM
1

If you allowed oneitis after joining the seduction community I question your adherence to the community's principles. Welcome back. I wish you many f-closes, successful alpha posturing, and the ability to overcome any resistances she may have.
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:53 PM
2

I completely agree with this. Overcoming resistance is one of the best skills one learns as a highly-trained PUA.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:46 AM
1

This is a very interesting article. I had never known precisely how to pick up girls who are with friends on the beach, and now I know the get granular specifics of how that process is most effectively executed.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:44 AM
2

You don't want anything serious either. Tell her you agree that relationships are for the whipped and that the only really way to stay fulfilled is by having as many sexual partners as possible a time.
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:09 AM
-2

1) Haha sure.... 2) Really? Because it feels like I've already known you forever.
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:07 AM
0

Direct openers often way too closely resemble what an AFC would do. Do something PUA related for the most success-I'm a big fan of the girl fight opener in The Game myself.
/r/seduction18/02/14 11:34 PM
-2

Wouldn't work, comes off as creepy and manipulative.
/r/seduction18/02/14 10:48 PM
1

So many well-adjusted and desirable women will always say stuff like this, but it never seems to quite sink in among the male population at large, does it?
/r/seduction18/02/14 10:48 PM
-2

Why is this posted here? Marriage is for people suffering from oneitis.
/r/seduction18/02/14 10:46 PM
1

Once you get some rough kino going the atmosphere tends to get a lot more serious pretty quick.
/r/seduction18/02/14 10:45 PM
1

"It's tough for me to be that dick who ignores girls to try and get them interested." There's your problem. Have you read any PUA at all?
/r/seduction18/02/14 08:10 PM
-10

Absolutely DO NOT be the first person to text, and then don't respond to the first several texts she sends you over the course of several days. You want her to think her sexual performance pushed her right to the brink of losing you, then "grudgingly" arrange the next meeting at her request. Then blow it off. Then f-close on the rescheduled date. You have to waver CONSTANTLY to keep her interested.
/r/seduction18/02/14 08:02 PM
3

You're doing a lot of stuff right here, that should be the main focus. Eye contact, kino etc. You always have to keep her wanting more. When you have a woman naked in your bedroom for the first time you either need to: Overcome last-minute resistance using techniques described extensively on online PUA forums. Create a diversion and keep her waiting, which you did, which will keep her longing like crazy for you. Whatever sex you put off now will come back at least triple in the future. It's a wi…
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:59 PM
3

I've never been to one of Bravo's bootcamps but I've heard excellent things. The price is a bit steep for me but like most bootcamps you are learning skills applicable for the rest of your life- a period of time during which your investment becomes very wise on a $/day basis.
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:51 PM
0

The girl you're interested in is viewing you as a friend- this is a VERY bad sign. Avoid moving in this direction in the future.
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:49 PM
1

I would refer to dozens of available online PUA forum posts on this exact topic. Just Google search- you won't be steered wrong.
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:47 PM
1

Somebody's killing it. I think your approach to setting times is very correct and asserts dominance in the relationship every time. NEVER give her a straight answer, and ALWAYS let her be waiting first. You are the alpha and the controlling party in this relationship. Her enjoyment is contingent on your presence. Make her work a little for it.
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:44 PM
10

Wow- you were clearly way too much of a gentlemen if you're receiving texts like these. You need to push the escalation and kino harder- WAY harder.
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:40 PM
3

I strongly advocate enrolling in courses by Masculinity University. It's an even better place to learn how to be a man than Penn State.
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:38 PM
-12

Not if you've invested enough time in learning PUA material.
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:42 PM
1

Practice on less attractive women to hit the quota. Just practice ALWAYS. If you work as a mechanic aren't there any women coming into the shop? If not go to a mall/stay on whatever campus you take classes at. I know there isn't much time, but if you just set a little aside you can get it done.
/r/seduction18/02/14 03:13 PM
1

Just remember to escalate kino aggressively enough (until the point of resistance).
/r/seduction18/02/14 03:06 PM
-7

Your problem is that you're using Timber. Run daygame/bargame and meet actual women instead of whores.
/r/seduction18/02/14 03:05 PM
2

The thing you aren't realizing is that you should be cold approaching CONSTANTLY. Aim for 30 a day. Then you will be able to approach anyone. Just run daygame around campus. This isn't rocket science.
/r/seduction18/02/14 03:04 PM
1

Absolutely. It's almost as good as RSD Inner Game audiotapes.
/r/seduction18/02/14 02:56 PM
-9

Tinder is similar to prostitution in that you're basically just having sex only. Avoid. Stick to irl game and avoid online dating like you're supposed to.
/r/seduction18/02/14 02:55 PM
15

Sometimes you can just grab her mid conversation and start making out without saying anything. It will give you an almost instant f-close or it will give you a great barometer on her resistance level.
/r/seduction18/02/14 02:31 PM
-2

Women are virtually all approached frequently by men, as men are programmed to have relentless sex drives. If women aren't approached it's because they're men (figuratively speaking).
/r/seduction17/02/14 06:01 AM
3

You aren't being aggressive enough. Do dozens of daygame approaches and make your kino as hard and as frequent as you can get away with. It will click for you soon, my friend. The key is to be persistent.
/r/seduction17/02/14 05:58 AM
2

I agree. NOBODY is aggressive enough. The key is being extremely persistent and outright refusing to take no for an answer when it comes to maximizing outcomes.
/r/seduction17/02/14 05:56 AM
18

Fantastic! This must be such an encouragement for all the guys who have been involved with PUA for lengthy periods of time with no success. It always helps to clarify the fact that lack of success has nothing to do with the validity of source material and everything to do with effective execution of said material.
/r/seduction17/02/14 05:54 AM
1

Inner game audiotapes are the best. You won't even recognize yourself after that transformation hits you.
/r/seduction17/02/14 03:38 AM
1

The important thing to remember is that PUA definitely is not a scam or a cult, and that if you invest enough time and money in the material you will eventually become as successful with women as you want to be.
/r/seduction17/02/14 03:32 AM
2

You should be texting her more aggressively. The boyfriend is a shit test. If you don't get a response, approach her in person and sort this stuff out. She's waffling like crazy.
/r/seduction17/02/14 03:26 AM
-3

Only date one woman? What are you, gay? Seriously though if you're developing oneitis break that shit off immediately. Monogamy is for betas.
/r/seduction17/02/14 03:23 AM
1

You should always approach. Definitely don't let anything stop you. Dance floors are great too. It's a great place to do hard kino and rub up like crazy against whatever you want.
/r/seduction17/02/14 03:22 AM
1

Chasing a single woman is always a bad idea. What you really need to do is listen to inner game audiotapes until you are absolutely unrecognizable as your former self and reborn as a new alpha male.
/r/seduction17/02/14 03:18 AM
2

You have to be a serious pimp to post videos of yourself picking up women online. I wish my social skills/confidence was that good.
/r/seduction16/02/14 10:37 PM
2

I'd highly recommend it. Reservations about sending pictures of your genetalia to strangers over the internet are just social conditioning. Worst comes to worst things won't work out and you'll never see her again and things will be fine.
/r/seduction16/02/14 10:35 PM
3

If you kino very aggressively you will be able to pull it off.
/r/seduction16/02/14 10:34 PM
5

It seems like you're pitching a lot of non pickup and pickup-contrary things. With this guide why would I even need PUA at all?
/r/seduction16/02/14 10:32 PM
0

Send multiple followups. You haven't seen her for years, you have nothing at all to lose
/r/seduction16/02/14 03:41 PM
1

Your flirting method is not direct enough. Use embedded sexual language (Ross Jeffries) and write lengthy first emails. This will resonate with her subconsciously and your response rate will be very high if you do it correctly.
/r/seduction16/02/14 03:39 PM
2

Approach 30 women. Hard kino 10 women. K-close 4 women. F-close 2 women. Easy goals are for betas.
/r/seduction16/02/14 03:37 PM
1

It's all about execution. If you're coming off as creepy or invasive then you're clearly doing it wrong.
/r/seduction16/02/14 04:27 AM
1

I encourage everyone to be as bold in the field as possible. A great place to learn successful aggressive field behavior is through the bootcamps put on by RSD and other PUA organizations. They generally cost $2500 for several hours, but if you amortize the lesson cost over as long as you will be utilizing game behavior (quite possibly 50+ years), this is actually quite reasonable. Happy hunting!
/r/seduction16/02/14 03:34 AM
-2

The Game advocating a method of getting over AA that I really liked. Go into a public place (where nobody will ever see you again) wearing a catcher's mask with a dildo taped on top. This is some pretty hardcore bootcamp shit (which would normally cost you $2500/4 hrs) but I advocate you learning the lesson for free and using it to get over AA once and for all.
/r/seduction16/02/14 03:29 AM
5

I understand this was your first time but I highly advocate incorporating kino (as heavy as you can get away with) into your daygame approaches. You'll probably have to work up to this level but you'll get there eventually. Nice work today!
/r/seduction16/02/14 03:26 AM
1

Does any guy really want a gamer manipulating and dominating their daughter? I know I wouldn't. Men naturally want their own daughters to be in control of their relationships. We do not want women to be in control of our relationships, but we would want our daughters to have control in theirs. The main advantage of The Game is that we get to control virtually every aspect of our relationships by exploiting evolutionary biology. That doesn't mean I want someone exploiting my daughter in that mann…
/r/seduction16/02/14 03:20 AM
-4

I don't see a problem here so long as you religiously follow PUA teachings and consequently are very successful with women. Bragging about your sexual exploits with other men can be both fun and a good way to assert your competitive dominance.
/r/seduction15/02/14 11:57 PM
1

I say what I always say: escalate kino quickly and aggressively. Do not let anything get in your way. You are an alpha male now and are well-schooled in PUA and seduction in general-you need to act like it.
/r/seduction15/02/14 11:50 PM
2

NOT ENOUGH KINO.
/r/seduction15/02/14 09:22 PM
0

"What am I doing wrong?" TLDR. Start with that.
/r/seduction15/02/14 09:20 PM
0

Too much observing, not enough kino IMO. The Game also strongly recommends not drinking and calls it a hardcore AFC move, for what it's worth. For this reason I abstain completely at bars/parties but it's really up to you.
/r/seduction15/02/14 09:16 PM
2

You're hesitating way too much and women can tell. Your body language will give it away for you at a subconscious level. You need to push onward and forward without a split second of doubt, and refuse to take no for an answer. The daygame is good, but I would advocate incorporating kino into your approaches. Don't be afraid of the opinions of people around you either in class or in your group of friends. If anything, your status will increase by gaming the available women in these places. Everyo…
/r/seduction15/02/14 09:12 PM
1

Aggressively escalate kino while she's over and eventually her primal nature will take over.
/r/seduction15/02/14 09:02 PM
1

If you're asking men out, it's a safe bet that you need to invest a bit of time in your appearance. The average woman is approached very frequently by men. I would recommend getting out more as well, and also to avoid develop feelings for one man in particular if you want to maximize outcomes.
/r/seduction15/02/14 09:00 PM
-2

The average very attractive woman is approached by men dozens of times a day. As a result, they put up "bitch shields", in the words of RSD. You need to aggressively neg these woman until the bitch shield "breaks" and she visibly loses composure (by your best assessment). Then she's vulnerable and she's yours.
/r/seduction15/02/14 08:57 PM
65

As long as we're on the topic of eye contact, I want to emphasize that intense eye contact is well-documented as a primate body language cue to indicate a sexual advance towards women or a physical challenge towards men. I rarely see men maintain eye contact as completely as they should, ideally you should be making eye contact during 80-90% of any conversation, and she should be the one to break the eye contact virtually every time.
/r/seduction15/02/14 08:54 PM
2

Start trying kino with random people. Or at least do it a few times and see if you get more comfortable with it.
/r/seduction15/02/14 12:40 PM
-4

Why not? Just another situation where it's best to just drop the social conditioning and feelings of awkwardness and be an alpha.
/r/seduction15/02/14 02:53 AM
1

Why just say "good morning" to the people you see on the street? Start conversations and run full game, and perhaps escalate kino if it's really going well.
/r/seduction15/02/14 02:51 AM
1

Remember to escalate your kino!
/r/seduction15/02/14 02:39 AM
-3

I just remind them that PUA is a very powerful tool and that should they study adequately they are about to control virtually any woman they will come across. I encourage them to act responsibly as there is no telling how much damage they are capable of inflicting on the female gender with what may be one of the most groundbreaking scientific discoveries of the past 25 years.
/r/seduction15/02/14 02:28 AM
-7

Constantly push her to the point where she is about to lose you. In getting you not to leave you are securing her emotional investment/effort. Never let her feel secure in the relationship and always be sure the relationship is completely within your control.
/r/seduction15/02/14 02:23 AM
-10

Why save that phrase for the bedroom. I would feed it into a normal conversation as an alpha power play. When the conversation is peaking and things are going well/successful kino, I would chime in "Are you getting about ready to spread your legs"? If response is negative play it off as a joke, if response is positive or "maybe", then rapidly escalate kino until the point of resistance.
/r/seduction15/02/14 02:20 AM
0

THAT'S a hard neg?! The LIGHTEST neg I ever do is the one in The Game where I get on her about her hygiene.
/r/seduction09/02/14 06:31 PM
1

You don't know the girl fight opener? Google "Girl Fight Opener". If I remember correctly it was very prominently featured in The Game as well as many other PUA places.
/r/seduction09/02/14 06:19 PM
0

I have not seen this formally addressed in the past for day game. But I can point to many pieces of PUA literature advocating very hard negs as being the most effective, especially on the very attractive women the op should be sarging.
/r/seduction09/02/14 06:13 PM
0

Compliment openers based on appearance. I also like the "girl fight" opinion opener. Very hard negs are also good.
/r/seduction09/02/14 05:48 PM
4

What's so funny about approaching a stranger and trying to make them one of your dozens of sexual partners?
/r/seduction09/02/14 05:43 PM
2

Every situation is slightly different by temporal definition. If escalation fails one minute, escalate again the next minute. Maybe the outcome will be different. Be relentless.
/r/seduction09/02/14 05:40 PM
0

Extremely heavy kino and persistence.
/r/seduction09/02/14 05:36 PM
17

The key thing is that you enjoy yourself while doing it. If that's what you like, the girl will respond positively. It makes you seem confident. An alpha never lies to himself or others about what he likes.
/r/seduction09/02/14 05:16 PM
1

Hey I'm just giving credit where credit is due-the man knows his PUA teachings.
/r/seduction09/02/14 04:40 PM
1

No difference. I advocate continuous eye contact (except blinking). You're making a sexual advance, she should know that subconsciously.
/r/seduction08/02/14 11:49 PM
2

Just grab her. An alpha takes what he wants. Don't overthink this.
/r/seduction08/02/14 09:43 PM
1

How would she be interested in you if you haven't executed any game on her yet? Alpha body language?
/r/seduction08/02/14 09:33 PM
0

I would use a direct compliment opener on appearance. Or even more creative, write your number and location relative to her in the classroom on one of her papers when she isn't looking. When she reads it. She will definitely look around the classroom. When she looks up, look directly at her and smile broadly. Boom opened.
/r/seduction08/02/14 08:32 PM
1

Reading The Game is a very good idea for anyone. It will tell you how you, too, can have sex with hundreds of women just by sharpening your social skills and being physically aggressive.
/r/seduction08/02/14 04:05 PM
2

Buy "Bars and Clubs" by David DeAngelo. This will teach you how to deal with women interpersonally in a bar room setting, as well as generalized skills with women that are applicable anywhere. A PUA bootcamp may also be worth having.
/r/seduction08/02/14 02:48 PM
2

I've seen both discussed on here pretty extensively. I lean towards Models by Mark Manson. Worth every penny.
/r/seduction08/02/14 02:16 PM
0

After the age of puberty, not really. Sexual and power dynamics will virtually always dominate the relationship. The Game keeps this situation under control. You basically can't. Sounds like you've got oneitis. Make sure you're getting some elsewhere and my guess is after this you'll see through all this and stop wasting time on the woman leading you on.
/r/seduction08/02/14 04:48 AM
2

I think role playing you are married to whoever you are sarging is a good way to get her into a sexual/committed mindset. I mean it might not be the most ethical thing in the world to lead her on like that, but would it be effective in a bar situation? Absolutely.
/r/seduction08/02/14 01:45 AM
1

I guess. How long are you going to be in there? Urgency is implied in public bathroom sex.
/r/seduction08/02/14 01:10 AM
-3

Sounds like she's a friendzoning gold digger who appreciates you took her everywhere she wanted and probably paid for everything. Way to be beta, beta. Next time be more physically aggressive.
/r/seduction08/02/14 12:14 AM
1

I would recommend the bathrooms. There, available, and quick. And that way you don't even have to go home and can move right onto the next target if you so desire. Many clubs have bathrooms that lock, but if the one you go to does not, many restaurants/fast food places in the surrounding area probably do.
/r/seduction08/02/14 12:03 AM
3

I like that you keep going for her erogenous zones after she has pushed you back. As with anything else in PUA, the key is persistence. Don't worry alpha, sooner or later it will happen for you.
/r/seduction07/02/14 11:53 PM
1

How much money and time have you spent on PUA material? Whatever it is, it isn't enough, beta. Again I just don't get the hostility. I'm just sharing what I know about PUA and trying to help people who clearly need it.
/r/seduction07/02/14 07:47 PM
-2

I think if you're still a beta chode (not saying you are) it really won't matter. The only thing women are really attracted to is effective PUA practice. I'd use those millions of dollars to buy as much PUA material from diverse sources as you can get your hands on, then use all the free time you will now have to study it relentlessly. Perhaps spring for the pricey but extremely worth it $2500 bootcamps.
/r/seduction07/02/14 05:49 PM
1

If there's something I admire about the PUA community, it's the honesty. Why delude yourself with social norms when you can literally get your number into the three digits and be a man?
/r/seduction07/02/14 05:37 PM
1

I think he could more heavily emphasize how effective aggression can be in helping you pull, but otherwise it's an excellent and engaging video.
/r/seduction07/02/14 07:10 AM
0

I used to be very selfconscious about my 3-digit number and would lie about it, but now I've really come into my own and am willing to share how many women I've slept with if people ask.
/r/seduction07/02/14 07:09 AM
2

You seem like a guy who knows his scams and cults.
/r/seduction06/02/14 08:50 PM
1

Totally. Here's a man who knows his inner game.
/r/seduction06/02/14 08:41 PM
2

Just follow Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder. Easy to find with a google search.
/r/seduction06/02/14 08:36 PM
0

Yes I agree. But the marginal cost on trying just A LITTLE harder in a situation that's already blown is very low. And there is so much PUA material written on recovering blown situations that it's not even funny. I would just recommend using those tactics. Play your own game. I'm just expressing what I know and what I've read.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:49 PM
1

That's not what I've read.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:42 PM
-6

Dude it's a game; THE Game. And I'm winning.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:34 PM
-4

The preferred PUA term is targets. But yes they are people.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:29 PM
0

Your definition of a dividing line is subjective and unclear in my opinion, and would be determined by social conditioning for most people. I have digested enough PUA material (audiotapes and written material, particularly that by RSD) to know that letting behavior be dictated by social conditioning is dangerous and counterproductive. Of course if she's really uninterested then I agree, move on. But that's subjective.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:28 PM
-2

Your criteria for "definitely rejected" lacks specificity. But yes, if you are "definitely rejected" you should move on. There are literally thousands of targets at your disposal, why use resources of time and effort inefficiently?
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:09 PM
0

Online dating is bad for everyone. If I wanted to bed cheap prostitutes I would bed cheap prostitutes. Daygame is the really the only effective way to meet classy women without looking like a psycho. That way you get full frame the entire time and never let the target get the upper hand. I recommend daygaming your nearest college campus for online dating demographics and full flexibility to fully utilize PUA techniques.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:00 PM
-10

If you had a number in the low three digits you'd be pretty pumped up too.
/r/seduction06/02/14 06:48 PM
-10

You're really just caught up in the lingo here. What you want to be is relentless and unwilling to take no for an answer, if that's helpful at all. If a girl isn't answering your calls, you basically have nothing to lose as you have already "lost" her. Might as well do anything you can to maximize outcome at that point.
/r/seduction06/02/14 06:37 PM
0

Jerk as a term is dated, meaningless and subjective. What you do need to be is alpha, dominant, driven, assertive, extremely confident and aggressive if you want to be successful with The Game and related materials.
/r/seduction06/02/14 06:32 PM
-6

Nope, you just aren't hardcore enough, in my opinion. I'm really just trying to be helpful. Perhaps my game isn't suited to Reddit's newbies and I should stick to PUA forums. I've had this problem before.
/r/seduction06/02/14 05:42 PM
1

Conquer her and her territory. She is yours now, enjoy the spoils. Nice work alpha!
/r/seduction06/02/14 05:15 PM
-1

I would just extensively memorize conversational material to the point where you have every second you need filled in. Early Mystery material would work sufficiently, as would many routines you could find on PUA forums online (there are literally thousands). Essentially just fill in time. An ideal situation would be if you didn't have a second of time you couldn't fill in at will should you need to.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:51 PM
3

I don't see a problem here. So he practices game with members of your social circle, what of it? If his game skills aren't up to snuff to the point where he might be coming off robotically, this is an argument for more game practice, not less. I would hook him up with some inner game audiotapes "The Blueprint Decoded" by Tyler Durden or "Deep Inner Game" by David DeAngelo" to ensure that he improves his game to the point where he is suave and smooth.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:43 PM
-21

Ask to use the bathroom and imply urgency. Upon leaving the bathroom aggressively escalate kino in the seductive manner discussed in The Game. She will be taken aback to the point where she will not resist and you will walk away with an f-close.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:37 PM
3

I get where you're coming from. I think I've unnecessarily conflated being authoritative and refusing to accept "no" (both valuable traits in maximizing PUA outcomes) with not being a nice person. It's probably an unnecessary distinction. I blame a weak upbringing with an emasculated male role model.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:41 AM
1

Why not? It's inefficient in most situations; women, career, etc. Alpha males aren't nice, they're effective.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:18 AM
-6

Giving her any choice or any opportunity to say no will lead to disaster.
/r/seduction06/02/14 05:48 AM
-1

Does it really matter if your behavior is considered "douchey" by some if it helps you pull? First, any behavior on the world could be considered douchey by somebody. Second, "doucheness" is just social conditioning. On the topic of social conditioning, everything we do in the game breaks social conitioning. To many, cold approaching hundreds or thousands of women and negging them or touching/kinoing them could be considered "weird" or "inappropriate", but this would just be an errant, blind, an…
/r/seduction06/02/14 05:26 AM
3

How to stop being a "nice guy". Becoming more aggressive and dominant towards women is an excellent goal.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:52 AM
1

Step it up, alpha. Just open normally, opinion openers, compliment openers, or insult openers are best.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:50 AM
1

Online dating is a step away from prostitution. Stick to day game. That way you always control frame.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:48 AM
1

The best PUA head-giving technique I've seen is "the alphabet." You lick each letter in upper case into her vagina, one by one, then lower case. It gives a diversity of motion and covers the whole area.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:46 AM
-2

Make her territory your territory. Fake it until you make it in any conversation...even if you don't have expertise/knowledge in the subject at least you are demonstrating your ability to control the frame and conversation. If they attempt to correct you, correct them back (either in terms of syntax or semantics). You are the man. They are the women. They need to listen when you speak, and you don't when they do.
/r/seduction06/02/14 04:28 AM
6

It asserts dominance. In many species, males use intense eye contact with males as either a fight challenge to other males or as a sign of dominance and sexual advance to females. Most females are oblivious to this body language sign's significance on a conscious level, but its subconscious effect will be obvious.
/r/seduction06/02/14 03:53 AM
9

More eye contact. NEVER break it.
/r/seduction06/02/14 03:45 AM
-9

I would address the possibility (and eliminate the chance of her) flaking in the first several texts in her direction. Tell her "I enjoyed meeting you at the coffee shop. You are going to meet me on Friday at 7 at ______. I will interpret your absence as the conclusion of our communication." Giving her an exact time and place and the inability to say no without loss will lead to the best outcome.
/r/seduction06/02/14 03:44 AM
2

The classic The Game response is "ass model." Go with that.
/r/seduction06/02/14 02:43 AM
0

WAY more kino. Do not take no for an answer. Substantially more eye contact and a refusal to break it would also assert dominance. She should be the one breaking eye contact virtually every time and you should be making eye contact with her roughly 80% of the time if possible.
/r/seduction06/02/14 02:37 AM
1

The key tenet of any PUA teaching is essentially that for evolutionary reasons, women like men who treat them poorly. Just go into social situations with women with aggression and with substantially less respect than all the men fawning over the women are giving them and you will be surprised by the wonders you can work.
/r/seduction06/02/14 02:29 AM
-2

Alpha: Assertion, Aggression, extreme confidence, toughness, unwillingness to let anything get his way, gets what he wants by any means necessary. Beta:Weak, lame, nerdy, nice, overly understanding, gives in to unreasonable requests, gets oneitis for targets, willing to take no for an answer, "respects" women but never gets any, loser.
/r/seduction06/02/14 02:23 AM
0

I would buy a PUA texting guide. I read one a while back but I can't remember which.
/r/seduction05/02/14 06:03 PM
1

I would go with anything by RSD. Tyler is a genius and knows his shit. I'm wiser than to dispute a man whose number is in the mid 3 digits.
/r/seduction05/02/14 06:02 PM
5

This is excellent. I would intersperse one or two questions from each and then move through the list, then cycle to the beginning again. Basically topic a,b,c,d,e,then back to a,b,c,etc. Having a conversational structure like this will make this routine easy to remember and perform on targets.
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:37 PM
-2

Why are you letting oneitis get the better of you like this?! There are literally hundreds (or thousands) of female vaginas you are missing out on by committing yourself to something so fruitless.
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:33 PM
-1

I'd argue the other way. I'd say it comes off as "I'm confident enough to approach you and I look like a celebrity, beyotch!". Which is definitely not something a weak chodey beta would say.
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:23 PM
1

Why not?
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:12 PM
0

I respectfully disagree. It's an easy opener and asserts confidence and dominance.
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:11 PM
1

Aggressively game the other women in your class to make it additionally clear you are over both to yourself and to her. If you're lucky you'll pull and make her slighted and jealous, if you're unlucky you won't pull and you'll be over her and she'll be slighted and jealous. Either way you've put her (and yourself) in your respective places. Oneitis is a terrible thing and will severely curb your chances of maximum reproduction. Your goal is to have sex with hundreds of women, not just one. Just …
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:10 PM
1

Sure thing. Consult Body Language by Allan Pease for additional dominant poses. PDF is available online.
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:01 PM
-4

Selfie, full body, looking straight at camera. Make body language as alpha as possible (puffed chest, straight posture, hands on belt).
/r/seduction05/02/14 03:59 PM
1

Not being sarcastic, still feeling a bit bad about any static between us recently.
/r/seduction05/02/14 03:39 PM
1

Upon reading that again, I think you're right. Better is: "I really enjoyed the date! I expect to see you at 7pm on Friday at ____. You not being there at that time will have a serious bearing on any future plans between you and me." The key is to remove choice, as choice can lead to the possibility of rejection and female churn. My initial answer was not consistent with that PUA tenet.
/r/seduction05/02/14 03:33 PM
-1

You aren't being alpha enough. You need a constant stream of negs and aggressive alpha behavior to maintain their interest. If she isn't constantly feeling like she's inadequate, she will begin to feel comfortable in your relationship, stop trying, stop being attracted to you, and move on.
/r/seduction05/02/14 01:59 PM
2

I strongly advise not using tinder (or okcupid even). Day game is the best route for getting women because that way the situation is always under your control and you don't need to worry about the insane amount of competition ripping your target away from you.
/r/seduction05/02/14 01:46 PM
1

Since you look like Hugh Jackman, I might use that as an opener. "Hey, can I ask your opinion on something? My friend said I looked like a famous celebrity. Can you tell me which celebrity I look like just to see if it's the same one he thinks?" You look like Hugh Jackman and have the confidence to flaunt it. Major DHV territory.
/r/seduction05/02/14 01:43 PM
1

You got AMOGed so hard. Next time be more alpha. Way way more kino, don't drink, and be willing to aggressively challenge and eliminate any male that generates competition. Women (especially the one you were with) are animals. Win the game.
/r/seduction05/02/14 01:22 PM
1

I strongly recommend purchasing "Inner Game" audiotapes to eliminate your anxiety completely. Either the one by RSD or David DeAngelo will definitely work wonders.
/r/seduction05/02/14 12:04 AM
0

"I enjoyed meeting you! We're definitely getting drinks next week so give me your choice of day! See you soon!"
/r/seduction05/02/14 12:01 AM
2

If you can't be alpha in those arenas, you need to drop what you're doing and change arenas. Anyone who doesn't respect and promote your PUA lifestyle is probably overly judgmental and isn't worth your time.
/r/seduction04/02/14 09:30 PM
1

Practice flirting aggressively and sexually with strangers you will never see again. You might not pull from it but you will become much more accustomed to doing it. If you can wait the several months to become practiced, you will be more than set when it becomes time to shift the conversation in a lewd direction with the women you are friends with now.
/r/seduction04/02/14 09:22 PM
1

I actually don't see a problem. RSD teaches you to spend extended periods in state and in pure alpha mode. I see no inherent problem in being interested in sarging every single HB you see every time you go out...anywhere. Increase sample size, you never know whether it will be the 5th girl or the 50th girl you sarge that will be the next addition to the harem.
/r/seduction04/02/14 08:25 PM
-21

I usually just go with whatever I just AMOGed the guy with. Example Scenario: I am sitting a bar and the alpha orders a drink. I lightly nudge the guy (to the point where he's rattled but doesn't spill his drink, then say "oh sorry man, wouldn't want to spill beer all over that thing, _____ material is really stylish right now isn't it?". The guy will either not respond or break composure, that's when I open to the girl "if you ever want a guy who isn't clumsy and knows his style, I'm up here at…
/r/seduction04/02/14 08:10 PM
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This is excellent! The best negs are actually quite hard. Most people really softball them and all it shows is weakness and insecurity. I open by AMOGing whoever appears to be the primary alpha in whoever the target's group is. Then in the confusion and power scramble you can open into any of the girls in the group.
/r/seduction04/02/14 06:53 PM
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Hi! I really enjoyed our last date! It's time we had another. I'll see you at the aquarium at 12 on Saturday. Call me back if you need to reschedule, otherwise I'll see you there. If you say it as pleasantly as possible, this will work. The important thing to do is not give her an opportunity to reject at this point.
/r/seduction04/02/14 06:43 PM
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I guess it's kind of a counterfactual scenario. I've lost women I'd been fuckbuddies with for 6 months and not felt anything.... If that's the experience you've gone through, I'm sorry. Glad to see you've found your place in the seduction community and ensured that you are never going to give the upper hand to women again.
/r/seduction04/02/14 03:55 PM
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You may claim I'm full of shit, but I'm not, although I have no way to prove it. I feel no twinge of upset with rejection. That feeling would be counterproductive, so I've worked extremely hard (and I claim to have succeeded) in eliminating it. I don't really get a need to be hostile here. You can dispute the claim but we've really got no way to resolve it. Your scenario with getting divorced after three years would have effected me before I was involved in the seduction community, but once agai…
/r/seduction04/02/14 03:38 PM
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I claim that I (and several other people I trained with) have succeeded in eliminating any approach anxiety and any feelings of loss from female rejection. We just have. Unless you live where I live I can't prove it to you, but trust. I've been rejected (and not rejected) thousands of times. Does that make us psychopaths? I don't think so. But what I can say is that through extensive inner game I have eliminated those emotions completely, or at least to the point where they are so infinitesimall…
/r/seduction04/02/14 03:16 PM
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The point is to go through enough inner game training that you CAN'T make a fool of yourself. That emotion is gone. And really, it shouldn't be there in the first place. The odds that you see the women you sarge again are minimal. If you stay perfectly rational you will realize there are simply no consequences to constant game. If you live in a city you could conceivably do tens of thousands of sets, and even then nobody who rejected you will remember you.
/r/seduction04/02/14 02:56 PM
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Great video. Glad to finally see a woman stop bullshitting and tell everyone how to get into her pants. I'm reluctant to listen to any female tell me how to date but I'm glad to see there's at least one woman out there telling it how it is. She must be exceptionally well-adjusted and confident in her own life to be willing to give up The Game for women to the extent she just did.
/r/seduction04/02/14 02:52 PM
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I've had the (campus) police called on me doing day game. I was sarging a college campus (near the dormitories) and had a fairly aggressive rejection from one particular HB7 while doing a direct opener complimenting her appearance. Less then 10 minutes later several campus police showed up and began to harass me. They clearly had nothing to go on since all I was doing was talking to people. I could barely prevent myself from calling them rent-a-cops but I figured that would escalate things so I …
/r/seduction04/02/14 02:27 PM
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I don't know what to tell you...but I do argue you have not had sufficient inner game training if you are still feeling these emotions the way you are. I recommend RSD's The Blueprint Decoded as well as any of their other inner game material. Rejection pain can be eliminated, trust me. How else do guys run hundreds of day game sets? They feel nothing...
/r/seduction04/02/14 02:06 PM
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I am sympathetic to HJ's situation and also really enjoy the posts he makes on this forum. I guess my argument is that with sufficient Inner Game training one can learn to eliminate those emotions entirely in a way that is advantageous (No AA whatsoever, hundreds of sets, complete indifference to female churn, etc). You wouldn't believe the number of sets I can go through because those feelings are gone. It makes life so much easier and I owe it to Inner Game (mostly RSD's but DeAngelo's as well…
/r/seduction04/02/14 04:23 AM
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Fair enough, and I agree with one of your main conclusions. In my personal experience I have found that checking women out aggressively enough is in fact very helpful in making sure you are not friendzoned. It may seem a bit awkward at first, but demonstrating that you are confident and dominant enough to check out women (and get caught/have them know you are doing it) is a good thing. I assume by your appearance that you exert a masculine vibe, which is also good. For thousands of years the suc…
/r/seduction04/02/14 04:00 AM
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I don't mean to be unpleasant but if you are feeling such an extreme level of insecurity and pain from rejection then you have not gotten nearly enough out of PUA teachings. I strongly recommend extensive Inner Game sessions until you are fully separated from those counterproductive emotions. The truth is that if you want any chance of reproduction then you need to be the hunter. The hunter does not feel any insecurity or fear or hesitation. He is focused only on his prey.
/r/seduction04/02/14 03:45 AM
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One thing one learns in inner-game courses is that delivery, personal presentation, and extreme confidence in oneself and belief in their competence at PUA courses are sufficient to maximize in any situation. Your date performance was not sufficient to advance to the next level. Refresh extensively on inner-game material and try again. Good luck!
/r/seduction04/02/14 03:30 AM
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If you'd gone through greater inner-game prep predate you wouldn't be having this problem. Take that as a lesson going forward.
/r/seduction04/02/14 01:51 AM
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I respectfully disagree. It's an exceptionally alpha neg move and provided that they have his number they will be calling for his dick in tears before long.
/r/seduction04/02/14 01:37 AM
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Not aggressive enough. Even allowing the possibility of being a woman's friend will cause her to view you that way. And we all know what particular dead-end "zone" that leads to.
/r/seduction04/02/14 01:17 AM
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Like Neil Strauss said in The Game, major personality changes can be expected after enough PUA training material. Glad to see you've improved for the better and the lameass beta personality you've had your whole life has been converted. Nice work, keep it up! Edited for political correctness. Sorry about my inappropriate and overly casual phrasing.
/r/seduction04/02/14 01:07 AM
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