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I saw the same thing. It was pretty good for a while, then slowly got cancer. Such a shame.
/r/MensRights15/01/19 08:05 PM
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I recall reading something about how the CIA was behind the wave of feminism, and focused on inner-city black women as well. They admitted to flooding these areas with drugs as well, basically destabilizing the black family group. It's frightening to think if that is true, then the effects we see on these groups of people were planned.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/18 01:14 PM
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Any man who takes a woman on a first/second/third date that costs more than $20 is doing it wrong anyway.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 10:07 PM
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I knew you were going to say that ... ha. But yeah, it's just like you said. Crazy indeed.
/r/MensRights27/11/17 09:32 PM
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That ... that sounds crazy. For real?
/r/MensRights27/11/17 09:11 PM
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Why? That doesn't seem fair for cases like this.
/r/MensRights27/11/17 07:07 PM
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"I wouldn't fuck her with a stolen dick." -- George Carlin
/r/PussyPassDenied29/08/17 01:30 PM
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A man who has a dead battery?
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 12:20 PM
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In VA you can legally do that - protection of your child. No other reason needed.
/r/MensRights30/05/17 10:28 PM
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Add to that list L-Lysine, 500mg, once or twice a day. That stuff is a freaking immune system boost miracle. I used to get sick 1-2 times a year, and would be miserable and out for a week. Now I get sick 1-2 times a year, but it's 5% of the intensity. No congestion, dry throat not sore, and feeling better in 1 or 2 days.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 03:59 AM
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Like rich men. Coincidence?
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 08:40 PM
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This happened to me a lot when I was younger, and a lot of things come to mind. What exactly happened on those 4-5 times you met? During that time you likely made significant mistakes that made yourself unattractive to her. When you went on these dates with her, were you all-accepting of everything she did, or were you actively looking for reasons to dump her because she was not good enough? Would you say she knew more about you, or you knew more about her, at the end of these 4-5 dates? If so, …
/r/TheRedPill26/03/17 04:46 PM
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Technically having a boyfriend should mean nothing to you. I get your point, been there and done that, but also learned a long time ago that getting one of these "girls" is a fool's errand. I can blow through the BF test as fast as the next guy, but a chick who is fucking or has fucked half the football team isn't "worth a shit", BF or not. They are spinning the guys, not the other way around.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/17 03:54 PM
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Perfectly done IMO, except ... she has a BF? You completely wasted your time.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/17 03:12 AM
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Let me know when you get to #3 like us. Want a pro-tip? Check out the book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child. It's a game-changer. At around 6-8 months you should be able to get your baby to sleep 12-16 hours overnight, plus three 1-2 hours naps during the day. It feels insane to have a newborn baby ... but have so much free time simultaneously.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/17 04:03 PM
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My bad, I thought you were asking about a serious situation. For a non-serious response I'd simply say something like: Mmmmhuh. Hey, I was thinking about putting in a pool. It would be a win-win, the pool boy could take care of all the ... ahem ... maintenance, and the babysitter could help me with daddy duties. Whadda ya say? Congrats on the baby. Is it your first?
/r/TheRedPill22/03/17 03:42 PM
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Wife sometimes like to remind me that if she lives me there will be plenty of men, more handsome, more rich, and more submissive, that are going to gladly pay for any of her and our child's shit. I laughed. Sure honey. How do I pass this shit test? My immediate thought - "So you want to try out the world's oldest profession?" That is exactly what she said, but probably doesn't realize it. Of course she was trying to test you, but not very well. Anyway, you should be calm, polite, and self-contro…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/17 06:10 PM
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Claim away. In the real world, the courts actually have a lot higher standards to actually charge and convict someone for rape.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 07:27 PM
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Yeah, I noticed you said coffee or sushi. Glad you got it figured out, too. There's a lot more to the whole $20 tops and drinks for the first date, but suffice to say a woman who is not interested in you won't risk getting tipsy or drunk, nor will she go on a cheap date. You got used for your wallet. You have to avoid that.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 04:40 PM
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You should never invite a woman to dinner on a first date. Never. Drinks - alcoholic drinks - period. Never buy her more than 1 drink unless things are going great.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 04:35 PM
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My buddy went through this exact same scenario. Long story short, he was not convinced it was his kid (and you should not be either) and decided to get a paternity test done. It cost him something like $1k, but it can be done very early - I think he did it at month 2 or 3? Turns out she was also fucking two other guys - one rando from a party, and the other was her drug dealer. She, of course, told my buddy that the baby was his, because he was making $80k+ or whatever, and the two other guys we…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/17 03:28 PM
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A dude driving a Porsche probably isn't feigning it If it's paid for in full. Anyone with credit can buy expensive shit on payments, and be near broke as a result.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/17 08:29 PM
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crew included zero women. New sign: Men working No women working
/r/MensRights23/01/17 06:57 PM
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Ordered.
/r/RedPillBooks07/12/16 04:18 PM
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Have not read it, but my general mindset is that reading anything that may help you grow, learn, be more confident, and happier is probably a good thing. I learned a lot from readin dozens of books like that.
/r/RedPillBooks25/10/16 01:59 AM
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Just sign out.
/r/PussyPass17/08/16 01:25 PM
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My wife and I have an agreement - if either of us gets fat we say so, and work on it. Should I apologize for getting fat? Perhaps you should acknowledge you are aware of the issue, and let him know that you are taking steps to remedy it. Should I lose it in secret? I believe it's better to share goals with other people and track them in a measurable manner. For me, I can drop weight fairly easily by not drinking soda or eating ice cream. I simply stop buying it, and if my wife brings it home I t…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/06/16 04:03 PM
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I know he's your brother, but you can't help people unless they want to get helped. I would suggest you tell him to at least divorce his wife first and see how this other chick responds. (She'll probably run.)
/r/MarriedRedPill26/05/16 01:20 PM
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Dog? That means no going anywhere for more than 4-8 hours, ever. Don't get me wrong, I loved my dogs, but damn are they a drag on your social life.
/r/MarriedRedPill05/05/16 05:44 PM
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Not enough details, can't help.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/16 01:45 PM
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Sounds like you're in the clear. BTW, I recommend avoiding the "advice" that says "So what" and "Who cares" and all that other ... crap. That's not advice, it's not well thought out, and it serves no purpose. It's RP at it's worst. RP is - in my opinion - about being a great man. You don't do that by acting like a caveman.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/04/16 11:05 PM
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I don't feel that breeding distrust in a marriage, or any relationship, is wise. Do you really hide all your RP studies from her, and she doesn't feel like something nefarious is possibly going on?
/r/MarriedRedPill11/04/16 01:48 PM
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Lesson 1: Your wife will snoop. Practice good opsec. Use incognito mode, separate browsers, careful with mobile device autocomplete dictionaries I totally disagree with this. Lesson #1 should be "Your wife will find it, and it's good for the two of you, so own it." Unless you are being incredibly stupid about it, are being abusive, or the relationship wasn't meant to be anyway - and then you should learn to recognize you married the wrong woman and end it. And so what if she finds it? You're doi…
/r/MarriedRedPill11/04/16 01:17 PM
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The shit mods have to deal with ...
/r/PussyPassDenied01/04/16 02:14 PM
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Exactly. After 12 years my wife is still built almost the exact same way as before, granted we have two kids now so she has a few extra pounds but otherwise looks just the same. Still cooks, and even better. House is clean. Kids are taken care of. She doesn't spend money on practically anything. I'm of the opinion that women are as high quality as your ability and skills to find and keep one are.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/03/16 06:22 PM
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As others have mentioned ... What kinds of things can I do everyday to make her a better wife? Make yourself the better man and husband. It's more about you improving yourself and acting more attractive, more masculine, and so forth, than trying to change her.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/03/16 03:04 PM
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Yeah ... no. Read more. Lots more. Books are like reading the minds of smarter guys. Read No More Mr Nice Guy. Then, if you want to understand why your relationship is failing at a very basic level (which means why you probably picked an incompatible or not good enough woman) consider reading Doc Love and his free articles. (This was the stuff that explained to me what a dope I was, and I personally benefited from it, you may or may not.) Then start reading everything you can find on how to impr…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/02/16 10:16 PM
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she's doing obvious yet subtle things to get attention from other guys. What are you doing to get attention from other women?
/r/MarriedRedPill24/02/16 09:24 PM
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Another high-quality post that leads to insightful discussions! If you don't know if your post belongs here, read this post explaining what are good quality posts and what aren't.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/02/16 01:39 PM
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Would you like it if she thought it was fun to punch you in the nuts even after you told her to stop? Why in the world are you disrespecting her? Every person likes and dislikes certain things, and pushing your luck on something like this is stupid. You are being an immature asshole to do this repeatedly. You're being that stupid 18 year old little boy with no self control. This is not attractive, this is not a turn on for her, this is not powerful of you. This is a mistake to continue. Don't be…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/16 02:57 PM
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Personally I've always told my wife I am just reading self improvement stuff, and half is good and half is bad. It's not like you go and do everything you read, right?
/r/MarriedRedPill04/02/16 02:06 PM
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Why anyone would (a) believe this story or (b) not understand the guy is probably a serious deviant or have some other serious mental health issues and (c) think this law is going mainstream .... ... is beyond me. Seriously. Get a grip. This is clickbait at it's best. No names, no details, no sources, nothing. And you've all grabbed your pitchforks?
/r/TheRedPill24/01/16 09:28 PM
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Did you catch her in the act? If so, and if you stay, you have no backbone and are APPROVING her cheating on you. You're beta. She's in charge. You're the loser. If you did not catch her in the act, don't bring up anything to let her know you suspect. No proof means you're just looking for a reason to cheat, and that makes you beta.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/01/16 02:53 PM
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Remember that hostility is often from people who are unhappy and have failed to make their lives work well. The whole RP mentality is, in my opinion, another term for self-improvement through education. You do not have to be hostile for any of this advice to work, and in my experience that is in fact a method of failure to think so. Your goal should be to become a gentleman ... gentle but a MAN. If you realize anger is not part of being gentle, and not part of being a man, but is rather an immat…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 03:55 AM
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There you go! You're welcome. Now, do yourself a favor. Set a reminder that will ABSOLUTELY FOR SURE go off in 13 months to do another transfer of whatever is left over. I keep track in my finances spreadsheet. Whatever you gotta do to keep track of the expiration date. Keep rolling whatever debt you have until it's gone.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/01/16 05:38 PM
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Don't think that way. Sign up on CreditKarma.com - they will suggest cards you will likely qualify for. I was in the same situation - maxed out - but lots of companies are happy to approve you for balance transfers so they make some profits. Then you have lowered your utilization rate. Seriously, no excuses, make it work.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/01/16 01:50 PM
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We are paying like $700 a month just in interest. Fucking refinance that shit. If that is credit cards, get a 0% card ASAP and transfer it.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/01/16 02:34 AM
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Immediately when no one is around. Every time.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/01/16 12:17 AM
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This guy is a chump. I don't get it. He's not a chump, YOU are. He has her hooked. Personally, I'd divorce her. Doing it to you three times says a lot about you being beta. My wife knows if she were to do something like that once, she'd be divorced the next day. You're all talk, no action. That means you don't really have a spine. That isn't attractive to women.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/01/16 04:05 PM
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Yeah, bring Dave Ramsey and his total money makeover to the table. You can buy the book or - better yet - go somewhere to watch the videos once a week. It's a game changer, and covers ALL the bases, and is VERY good. Believe me, it brought my wife and I on board very well.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/12/15 01:56 AM
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What about relationships where the male has multiple partners?
/r/MarriedRedPill17/12/15 02:57 PM
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Sorry, honesty is NMMNG 101 stuff.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/12/15 05:08 PM
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Don't worry about this. Be honest. It's self improvement information, and it's improving your marriage and relationship with her. LYING about it is a failure on your part. Trying to HIDE it or call it private is a mistake on your part. I've told my wife full well about red pill theory, and how it works, and she lost interest in the details ... but likes the results. Dishonesty is a major failure on your part, as women hate liars and cheaters. That is the crux of your issue.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/12/15 04:24 PM
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In addition to other things said here, I would also tell her that part of the reason why your marriage has improved so much lately is due to you improving yourself and "practicing" new skills with other women.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/12/15 06:35 PM
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Long distance relationships are worthless, except if they are temporary. Don't date anyone who lives more than about 15 miles away from you and you will likely see the quality of your relationships improve drastically. You cannot do anything to fix this - the distance causes this. If she isn't kissing your ass, the relationship is likely dead in her eyes already.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/11/15 01:36 AM
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We're not in our 20's anymore. We have a toddler. But fuck I would be down for bringing other girls into bed. Has anybody done this successfully in their marriage? Same here. My wife and I occasionally bring other women home. I'm in my 40's, wife is early 30's. We have no problems, but we have clear rules and expectations. The key to success, as you probably know, is communication about what the expectations are, and staying in control of yourself. We actually had a woman move in with us for a w…
/r/MarriedRedPill10/11/15 02:42 PM
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I tell people this all the time, but always get downvoted. When you're in a situation like this, that is the time to put on your best behavior and not throw a tantrum. All she had to do was realize he was a high quality man, and she had to improve herself to be the same. Instead, she acted like a spoiled little brat and got kicked to the curb. Big surprise he didn't want to date a woman who acted like a princess.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 02:25 PM
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Yup, this was the icing on the cake. She royally fucked up. This really is the crux of the issue here - he was gold, and she kicked herself in the teeth.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/15 02:23 PM
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Yeah, that part made me cringe.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/10/15 06:43 PM
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Ha. There's a thread on non-RP dating advice, but the top recommendations are all books I've seen mentioned here.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/10/15 07:07 PM
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Father here - buy the book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child. Read it. You only have to read the age-specific chapter(s) to get started. Then have your wife read it. Then put the daughter in her own room. I think waiting until the weekend will be okay, because you can use that time for yourself to get that book and read what you need to read before the weekend arrives. You can educate yourself, basically, and doing things like this on a weekend are easier anyway. We always do big transitions for…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/10/15 03:33 PM
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take your wife on the kitchen table. Why wait until it's dark, bed time, or after your shows??? You're a Man, take her to the bathroom and tell her it's shower time and fuck her brains out in there and then you guys can snuggle up while you know your seed is leaking from her. This, so much this. Doing it in the living room or kitchen makes a world of difference.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/15 02:17 PM
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This list underscores your failed relationship: pay for her apartment for 3-4 years hire a full-time nanny for 3 to 6 months cover any expenses for my daughter and the yet-to-be-born child drive with her to the appointments as they relate to our children Get her the unlimited use of Uber + online groceries so she does not have to go to the store This kind of behavior is very beta, very "provider", very much a turn-off for women. Are you doing that kind of stuff now?
/r/MarriedRedPill24/09/15 01:16 PM
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I'll be doing the same to you, thanks for your shameless plug.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/09/15 01:00 PM
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Nice to know another 40-something man around here, I'll be stalking you now.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/09/15 02:11 AM
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Please keep posting. I like where you are coming from.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/09/15 01:57 AM
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Interesting. From your post it sounded like she was older than you, hence why she's running the show. Have you read the various books on the sidebar? Unrelated - your username - CK's, as in Chevy?
/r/MarriedRedPill22/09/15 01:03 PM
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I bet she's older than you, right?
/r/MarriedRedPill21/09/15 10:47 PM
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There are already lots of great comments in here. I didn't see if your wife drinks soda, but if so, you gotta get her to stop. That is easily (probably) the easiest way to gain weight. Stop drinking soda and weight starts falling off. You should also know that women who gain weight can sometimes attribute it to depression. I don't know if that is what is going on with her, but with three kids this may be a cause. How is her happiness level? If she's depressed, and you tell her she's overweight, …
/r/MarriedRedPill16/09/15 08:12 PM
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My wife had complications as well, and I would suggest you support her for the time being. Is it going to suck? Yeah. But you're an adult, you're a great man, and you can wait until the time is right and put her health over your desires. Right?
/r/MarriedRedPill16/09/15 07:54 PM
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Check out Dave Ramsey's Total Money Makeover. You can get the book or some churches have video courses (which are great). The courses directly deal with this, and have some great advice with finances as well. It has turned our fiances upside down (in a good way) for my wife and I who had nearly identical issues. We now have individual accounts for a variety of purposes, such as an Emergency account, a checking account for her and one for me which are strictly "fun money" and get $40 each paychec…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/09/15 01:45 PM
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Yeah, this was the way to go.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/09/15 01:35 PM
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You're welcome. One more thing - go buy the book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child right now. Have her read it. While there is not much you can do during the first 6 months of your baby's life, around the 8 month mark we have been able to get both of our children to go to bed around 5:30pm and wake up around 7am every day. They also took 2-3 naps during the day, for around 2 hours at a time. Our kids are very healthy, and no one can believe how much our kids sleep. The best part, in case you had…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/09/15 08:28 PM
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any suggestions as to how I should best explain to her that I wouldn't want kids under the current circumstances? Yeah, start with not saying: I don't want kids under the current circumstances. And instead tell her: I don't want kids, period. You know that. The problem here is that over time she may coerce you into it, or accidents happen. If you really, really don't want kids, you need to get snipped, or get divorced.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/09/15 08:02 PM
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Every pregnancy is different, and every woman's pregnancy is different. she isn't constantly nauseous My wife was not nauseous at all with our first child. Not once. Our second child? Oh, yeah, bad times for a week solid, then again ... nothing. Our neighbor? Sick for months! how she doesn't think she's pregnant Many if most women don't know they are pregnant for months and months. doesn't feel pregnant What exactly does "feeling pregnant" feel like, huh? She doesn't know, now, does she? ;) Anxi…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/09/15 07:57 PM
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My thoughts: Never insinuate she is with you for your money. My wife is pretty good looking, and she isn't with me for money. He says "oh, lucky man! She like Ms. America." You respond by saying "No, not luck, it's skill." or "No, I am the catch and she knows it." [He] says "how are you guys doing today?" This was directed toward my wife 100% because he didn't make any eye contact with me You reply "We're fine thanks. Now, I need [x, y, and z]. You got that stuff in stock?" Take charge here. My …
/r/MarriedRedPill14/09/15 05:08 PM
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I understand the stigma, but point out how absurd it is. There is nothing wrong with learning about yourself, your life, your issues, from a professional. It's self improvement, and can only help. Besides, we seek out the assistance of professionals our whole life. Just like teachers educated us our whole life, coaches and doctors help us in more specialized and advanced ways. Moreso to the point, I am strongly of the opinion that trying to be your wife's therapist is a very unattractive and ver…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/09/15 04:08 PM
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My wife went through the opposite - her mother is a grade-A piece of shit narcissist. It's been terribly upsetting for her, but I've made it clear that my wife should not allow her mother to treat her so poorly. She has slowly taken control of her relationship and has also slowly pushed the mother out of our lives. It has not been easy, but it's for the best. With that in mind, I would let your wife know that this may not be permanent, especially if you decide to have kids. Grandkids do somethin…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/09/15 02:41 PM
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This is a red flag. It means she's already done with you. You might be able to save it, but only if you can calmly and honestly confront her about it. Let her know that she can do whatever she wants, but it's incredibly rude and disrespectful towards you, and makes you look like a fool. If she continues, which - again - is her choice, that's fine, but she isn't ever going to see you again. Have a spine, mean it, follow through. Generally speaking ultimatums are not a good thing, but she's alread…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/09/15 10:23 PM
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Sounds like your wife needs some time away from the kids. That's normal. Personally, I pack some stuff up and walk to our nearest park and let the kids play. Wife comes home and starts frantically texting me asking where I am. It's good in a lot of ways to do that. Everyone wins.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/09/15 11:56 AM
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So ... what about a threesome? I don't like how you had to de-esalate. You're flirting with other women, so what? You should be able to do that all night and day, and right in front of your wife. Backing down is not a RP move, it's BP. Own it.
/r/MarriedRedPill10/09/15 11:50 AM
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I make those eggs for my wife and kids. They are awesome. I would have told her at some point she was being rude, and she needed to stop and apologize. Plain and simple.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/09/15 01:49 PM
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By the way, here's an interesting read on another cause for ED: http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2011/08/09/ED-linked-to-womens-friendship-with-males/UPI-92501312863195/?spt=hs&or=hn
/r/MarriedRedPill02/09/15 01:53 PM
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I had an account on there. I told my wife about the hack, because she never reads the news, and told her I had a profile on there. I also had a profile on AFF (also hacked). Told her about that. We were married when I had these profiles. Why did I have them, she asked? Because I was curious. Doesn't mean anything. She then wanted to see my profile. At that point I told her I wasn't going to take the time to setup a database server and import over 10GB of data because it wasn't worth my time. Own…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/09/15 12:26 PM
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RP is only a portion of what you need to know about women. You also need to understand that RP focuses on some, but not all, women. The most important thing that I think RP overlooks is that there actually are great women out there, and you can be happy if you find one of them. Yes, there are plenty of shitty women out there, and I've dated dozens of them. However, I also found my wife, and she's a fantastic woman, and RP and other advice helped me pick her from the masses of women. I'm 46 now, …
/r/askTRP21/08/15 05:56 PM
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You're married, going out with guy friends. Perfectly okay. She's married, and hanging out with ... some guy? And she knows you are not cool with it? Really? And, from your other post, "doesn't want to be touched"? Something is wrong. Either she is cheating, or she's planning on it. You need to let her know you don't tolerate being treated so poorly. After all, if you were to go to a concert, with some cute little blonde, would she be okay with it? Of course not, she'd lose her mind, with good r…
/r/askMRP21/08/15 04:09 PM
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It's not the cologne. I have been wearing it for years and had exactly zero compliments.
/r/askTRP21/08/15 03:51 PM
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My buddy (who was almost deaf) and I (who looks nowhere near as good as you do) did an experiment, and here's what we discovered. When you meet a woman, you should (obviously) flirt and tease her for a few minutes. The whole point is to get a little info to decide if you even want to ask her on a date. The most specific questions you need to ask/get answered are: Is she single? And this means both physically and emotionally (not talking about her ex or other men) Does she live within about 15 mi…
/r/askTRP21/08/15 03:45 PM
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How old are your kids? What time do they go to bed, and what time do they wake up? Any naps? And does she take care of them during the day?
/r/askMRP21/08/15 03:22 PM
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You're the plate here.
/r/askTRP20/08/15 08:33 PM
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Uh ... "Fine" is usually woman-speak for "proceed at your own risk". I would suggest you have a very obvious camera setup before you do anything with her, and tell her something like "You want rough? The safe word is 'quit' okay? Are we good here?" And if she even mumbles "quit" the evening is over.
/r/askTRP20/08/15 08:21 PM
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Agreed, thanks for explaining.
/r/askMRP20/08/15 04:45 PM
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Once you realize that, only then, going out for dinner be alpha, if you do it from your frame. Otherwise it is supplicating Mr. Nice Guy stuff. Can you explain this? I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Going on a cheap date has been - in my experience - not supplicating at all. The dinners, movies, etc., has been supplicating and has resulted in very poor results.
/r/askMRP20/08/15 03:09 PM
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I give her a chance to come clean, she tells me she's just in a bad mood and having trouble in life. I know it's bullshit. My go-to line when I sense BS and excuses is "Hey, it's cool, I totally understand." And then I delete her number. It's so simple. If a woman makes ANY excuses (actions speak louder than words) just move on because you DO understand.
/r/askTRP20/08/15 02:17 PM
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Is this the only argument you've had recently? I sense this is a red flag, and a big one. The next one will probably be her telling you how she is spending time with another man. Look for red flags. A woman who finds her partner alpha would NEVER risk doing anything that would upset him. What if you had done this, what do you think would have happened? She probably would have lost her mind assuming you were built/hung.
/r/askMRP20/08/15 01:10 PM
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A date is when you Use the word "date" Do something that you couldn't do with a friend (male or female) without them getting a weird vibe. For example, could you ask your buddy "for drinks someplace quiet where we could get to know each other"? Probably not. Personally, I found "a drink" and the first few dates that cost less than $20 to be ideal at getting rid of women who are not interested in you. The date is really about sitting and talking and getting to know each other without any other di…
/r/askMRP20/08/15 01:06 PM
2

Dude, I started figuring all this stuff out when I was 32. Your best years are ahead of you, I promise. Start reading, find the book list, and get out there and practice.
/r/askTRP20/08/15 01:00 PM
1

What's the point of a date if you're texting her all the details? By texting she may decide you're a loser and cancel. Be mysterious, not boring and predictable (which is texting).
/r/askTRP19/08/15 05:15 PM
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What was the article she read? Link? Details? You may want to read this: http://www.drjoecarver.com/clients/49355/File/IdentifyingLosers.html If you're not on this list, and presumably you're not, then print it out and give it to her. Point out very clearly that this is written by a Ph.D and he knows his shit. Presumably she read some crap written by an intern at Cosmo, so she needs to wake up. I would tell her something like "Babe, I am in no way, shape, or form abusive to you. Yes, I am changi…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/08/15 05:04 PM
1

I understand, my wife was the same way. We happened to have some friends whose parents are instructors, and they were nice enough to come to our house once a week to watch the DVDs. That may not be feasible for you, but perhaps you could sign up for the course somewhere nearby and tell her she needs to come along? The course is really quite entertaining, and my wife was pleasantly surprised. Maybe give her a little push?
/r/askMRP19/08/15 04:50 PM
1

Damn dude, great list. You should ask to get this put in the sidebar.
/r/askTRP19/08/15 04:45 PM
3

You may want to check out Dave Ramsey and his Total Money Makeover. The course is pretty awesome at pointing out issues with spouses like this, and in the group setting it makes it very hard for her to justify this shit. It worked very, very well for my wife and I.
/r/askMRP18/08/15 08:56 PM
2

I'll try, it's hard to convey in writing. I don't use it as an opener, at least not the first thing out of my mouth. It's important to convey it in a way that is cocky/funny (ala David DeAngelo, he really has some great material that helps in these situations) if you want it to work (and actually get her to buy you a drink) and do it in such a way that she understands that you understand the weak game most guys play and what a turn-off it is for most women. FR from a few weeks ago. I'm out at a …
/r/askTRP18/08/15 08:32 PM
2

Buddy taught me Approaching 101: Just say Hi to every woman you see. That's it. Nothing more. Now, look at their reactions - look them in the eyes and don't look away (but don't be creepy). Women who look down (submissive) are attracted to you. Women who look away to the sides are not attracted to you. Women who keep eye contact, look down, and then look back are very attracted to you. You will get smiles.
/r/askTRP18/08/15 06:23 PM
1

Non-issue. For all you know or care she's ... taking a shower, sleeping, driving, eating, spending time with girlfriends, or otherwise ... you know ... has a life? Just wait for her to reply, then reply at your leisure. If you have a problem with being too anxious on the reply, disable text alerts so you don't even hear it (or feel it - disable vibrate) and then reply when you decide to check your phone.
/r/askTRP18/08/15 06:13 PM
1

I've fooled around with co-workers before and had zero issues. Whatever you do, just don't make it obvious at work, and don't do ANYTHING at the office or nearby. No making out in the elevators or bathroom breaks, etc. Sounds like you could do just fine with this if you keep escalating. And if you're not good at text game (I'm not) just tell her you hate texting (I do) and instead use it to set up dates.
/r/askTRP18/08/15 06:11 PM
1

As a beginner (aka 100% looking for a 1st book): The System (AKA the Dating Dictionary) by Doc Love. It's poorly written, poorly organized, and makes almost no sense most of the time. I read it and tossed it aside. Then 6 months later I remembered something the book said and picked it up and read it again. The second time around there was so much wisdom in the book and it explained so many of my past BP ways it was stunning. For the long term, it has been one of the only books to address the gap…
/r/askTRP18/08/15 05:29 PM
1

This was your first date out of a bad marriage? Wow, you blew my first DOZEN dates out of the water after my divorce.
/r/askTRP18/08/15 05:21 PM
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It is, it's one of the best first dates. Dunno why Remy says otherwise.
/r/askTRP18/08/15 05:16 PM
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Proper manners says if you invite someone on a date, you pay. If you don't want a woman to think you're a cheapskate, you pay. However, BP guys go overboard and take women to expensive first dates and don't realize the woman doesn't want to go with you ... but with your wallet. The way you screen out women is if they are okay with drinks or not. If they want you to take them to something that has a higher cost or entertainment value, don't even go on a date with them. For example, you say drinks…
/r/askTRP18/08/15 05:14 PM
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And this is why I tell guys to date a woman for no less than 2 years before even considering anything serious. They all seem to go crazy at about the 1-year mark. You did good here.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/15 05:07 PM
1

People have been swinging and otherwise having open marriages for decades. As long as you're both aware and happy, who cares what anyone else thinks?
/r/askTRP18/08/15 04:58 PM
2

You're welcome. I think the easiest way of looking at this is to remember that YOU are the prize, not her. It has always been that way. The man always is the protector and provider. As a result, the best men disqualify women who are not good enough for them. Go on a date, and ask her questions to make her qualify herself to you. What kind of music does she like? Does she smoke? Do things you like? If not, then stop dating her. Anything you don't like ... move on. Examples: One woman I took on a …
/r/askTRP16/08/15 05:29 PM
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When I started to date women who live no more than 15-20 minutes away, my success rates and happiness increased dramatically. When you're at a party, ask her "What city do you live in?" If she says something that's far away, just wrap up and find someone else. The whole point of meeting women is to find someone who you can spend time with, and you should be honest about it.
/r/askTRP16/08/15 02:07 PM
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It is if it's used in the context of "I let my wife do anything she wants, and I supplicate to her and let her be in control."
/r/askTRP16/08/15 02:03 PM
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Yes, that actually is one of my best pickup lines, but it has to be done totally fucking right. I've been out with women and a guy will say that to her, and she'll scoff at him and tell me what a loser he was. Then I'll laugh and tell her it's because he didn't do it right, I'll ask her, and poof she buys me a drink and her hand is on my leg. Beware that it's been a little overused, so YMMV if a woman has heard it before.
/r/askTRP16/08/15 01:57 PM
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Texting is for making in-person plans only. Not flirting etc. additionally, texting someone who lives a few hours away to make plans is silly. Don't waste time on any woman who lives more than 15 minutes away. You can't say "Come over now" so what's the point? The proper thing to do is ask her out on a date, either in a day or two, or "right now".
/r/askTRP16/08/15 01:54 PM
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Young women are just like this. Completely normal. Keep escalating, just a lot more slowly. Personally, I like to "edge" women like this. Tease them mercilessly and always leave them wanting more. To achieve this, you need to worry a LOT less about you getting turned on, and instead get her turned on ... for a long time ... and keeping here there ... then withdrawing leaving her super hot and horny. It's like bondage - tying her down and teasing her while you remain fully clothed and in control …
/r/askTRP16/08/15 01:36 PM
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I replied "so I'll know when you're really horny" I am of the opinion that being dead serious is a mistake. Would you say that on a first date to a woman you just met? Probably not, and it might even be creepy. Instead, tone it down and make innuendo. Perhaps you could have said something like "To improve our night life" or "Romance requires good timing" or "You'll see" with a friendly smirk. My wife has asked about all the books I read, and all the time I spend online, and I tell her it's for s…
/r/askMRP16/08/15 01:33 PM
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She very may well be. I've run into a lot of women who do the same thing and moving on turned out to be the most beneficial course of action. A few "changed their tune" and suddenly sexy all the time. Others I never heard from again. However, it may not be her. It may be your approach. It may be something you did or said, your reputation, or for all you know she could just not like your dick (assuming she's seen it). If you can absolutely rule out your behaviors as the cause, then it's her. If t…
/r/askTRP15/08/15 01:59 PM
1

Why are you being rude? We're trying to help. Your attitude makes it seem like you really don't know what you're doing.
/r/askTRP15/08/15 01:40 PM
1

You're already done with her. Make the date so she can plan accordingly. If you make her wait until the last second it is rude and she may make other plans. Now, the PRO way to do it is to get her number and NOT call/text her 1-2 days later like every other AFC. Instead, wait exactly 5-7 days and then call her and ask her on a date a few days after that. If you made a good impression, she'll go. If you made a poor impression, she'll have forgotten who you are. Now, you may think this is crazy, b…
/r/askTRP14/08/15 08:09 PM
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You should convey interest, approach her, introduce yourself, and sometimes even TELL her you are interested in her. Hell, if you have to, tell her friends you are interested in her and let it get back to her.
/r/askTRP14/08/15 08:05 PM
0

Sounds like you have two weeks to find someone else and get laid. And you've wasted "a couple of months" not getting laid. So, what are you going to do for the next two weeks?
/r/askTRP14/08/15 08:03 PM
1

Sorry, buddy, if this doesn't work out I'm not getting married again. Buy me a beer instead. I'm pretty confident there will be no divorce this time around though. Not with the woman I married.
/r/askTRP14/08/15 05:41 PM
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You're not a retard, we all go through this. It just takes asking some questions like you did and getting some help. Keep trying, making mistakes, and learn from them. It's Friday - get out tonight and say hi to someone new and hot.
/r/askTRP14/08/15 05:04 PM
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Where do I start to fix this? Within 1 week of meeting a woman you like, ask tell her to give you her number. EXACTLY 5-6 days later, call her up and ask her on a date. Use the word "date". Make some small talk for a minute or two to determine if she remembers you and seems interested, and then ask her out as follows: Hey Kelly, you seem like a cool girl and I want to get to know you better. Let's go on a date. Thursday, 8pm, Mikes bar and grille. I'll buy you a drink. Yeah? Then shut up. She wi…
/r/askTRP14/08/15 05:01 PM
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Rules: Never be serious. The less you talk, the longer you last. Ask her questions, but make her qualify them. Tease, flirt, and joke with her. The whole point of going out with a woman is for HER to qualify herself to you. You will be asking her questions (but not interrogating her) to determine if she has qualities and traits that make her a good match for you. You can tease her when she answers. If she asks about you, turn it around and ask her what she thinks you do or are into, or whatever.…
/r/askTRP14/08/15 04:48 PM
1

Sounds like she wants you to fuck her too. Text her one night and tell her to dress up sexy and come over. Don't ditch the FWB though.
/r/askTRP14/08/15 04:32 PM
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Yes, women are just as obsessed about sex as men, and sometimes more. They are biologically programmed to it, and it's amazing to me. I can share a little anecdotal information that I've found over the years. I have kids - a son and a daughter. My daughter learned about her genitals years before my son. My wife tells me the best orgasm she ever had was when she was five years old. I personally don't recall even knowing what my dick was for other than pissing until I was about 12. I believe women…
/r/askTRP14/08/15 04:18 PM
1

I started to learn about this stuff when I was 32! Imagine how stupid I felt. 20? You have won the fucking lottery. Failure should be EMBRACED. When you fail, look back at what you did and never do that again. Do not try harder, either, try the opposite of what you did. Try something different. Ask for help, ask for opinions, read books, articles, websites, and so forth. If you spent an hour talking to a girl and you failed, next time try talking for 10 minutes (real advice). If you get a fake n…
/r/askTRP14/08/15 03:35 PM
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While he said that he didn't support the pickup part because it leads to more broken women He's right, because most guys who only do pickups are missing the big picture. They can pick up women, but they can't keep them. The Game (Neil Strauss) paints this picture clearly. Otherwise, if you're a well-rounded man who can do more than just pick up women, it can be very powerful. It has served me very well in my marriage. VERY well.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 03:25 PM
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I would not be worried. Personally, I find something new as a fantasy all the time. Maybe one year I am into X, then next year it's boring. Then I find Y. That's great for 6 months ... then it's Z. The only issue to pay attention to is if you cannot get off with a woman in real life without thinking about your fantasy. In that case, back away from the porn a bit.
/r/askTRP14/08/15 03:22 PM
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I had to realize that, to me, the Internet (Reddit, ironic I know) and video games are an addiction. When I was in my 20's, I would got to work, put in 8-12 hours a day, and then come home to my GF ... and proceed to play Quake online for another 6-8 hours. You can guess how that relationship went along. I still play games 20 years later, but nowhere near as much as I used to. But I still play, and play hard. I have probably played games for tens of thousands of hours. Just for giggles, I logged…
/r/askTRP14/08/15 02:48 PM
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This sounds like a woman closing in on The Wall transitioning from AF to her BB provider. Yes, but at the same time it's maturity. The same could be said for men. As you get older, you're not interested in women who party all the time, screw every guy that is hot, and so forth. The trick is to find a woman who wasn't a complete slut through her twenties. I have met a handful of women like that in my life, and they are genuinely good women, and they were all catches for the guys they married. Don…
/r/askTRP14/08/15 01:50 PM
2

My take: i knew this girl for 6 month But never asked her out. Friendzoned yourself here. You need to ask a woman out within about 1-2 weeks TOPS. i ask her out for the first time,she says i have a volleyball match blah blah how about next week? What did you ask her out to do? Was it a date? Was it something that you could NOT ask a guy or friend to do? As in, did you ask her to go to a quiet place and have drinks and get to know each other? Was there a sexual vibe? Based on your later comments,…
/r/askTRP13/08/15 08:12 PM
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It probably can't hurt to check it out. I started renting rooms when I was in my early 20's. I always kept it professional and never really had any issues. You should Google your state name and "landlord tenant handbook", and read it. It should tell you what she has to do, and what she cannot do. If she isn't following the law ... try somewhere else.
/r/askTRP13/08/15 07:45 PM
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Yeah, there are plenty of them out there, but your approach and skills probably need some fine-tuning. I used to do a lot of dating to hookup shit, and the women who were into that were all broken. So seriously broken. I took some time to start to have some actual standards in women, and refused to even engage with women who displayed traits similar to crazy ex's, and it took some time but I met my current wife. She's not a supermodel, but she's easily one of the best looking women in any event.…
/r/askTRP13/08/15 07:42 PM
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Landlord here. How old are you? If she does NOT have a background check, written state-legal lease, house rules, and is not totally "professional" ... move on. You may find that she is never home. And frankly, if you're anything like most roommates I've known, you will probably always be in your room anyway.
/r/askTRP13/08/15 06:36 PM
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I'm 46. The stigma is from other guys who are insecure. If you're like me, you have a house, a career, and a "I don't give a shit" attitude about little life problems. You're also not acting like a 20yo jackass, which so many guys do. You have a clue. You can flirt. You can read between the lines. You dress nice. You can take a fucking hint from women who are not interested and are not a stalker/creeper. You have confidence to approach. You take your time. You're not just looking to "hook up" on…
/r/askTRP13/08/15 06:31 PM
1

I don't think age has anything to do with it, but rather I'd like to use the word "maturity" as the connection. Now, please note the choice of words here in terms of "guy", "girl", "man" and "woman", etc. There are SO many guys out there in their 20's and 30's who act like they are teenage boys. All those prank videos? Doing stupid, childish thing? Acting like a jackass. It isn't mature. Sure, there are some girls who like it ... for a while. As girls turn into women, they realize the guys are n…
/r/askTRP13/08/15 05:31 PM
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I've since unsubscribed. I misunderstood the point of this sub.
/r/MGTOW13/08/15 05:20 PM
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Absolutely.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/08/15 11:02 PM
1

Personally, as an older guy, I find it far better to behave like Cary Grant than some soon-to-be-washed-up rap star. Anyone can be rude, lewd, and vulgar, but very few men can carry on a subtle line of flirting that is stimulating and challenging.
/r/askTRP12/08/15 08:52 PM
1

Agreed. I know a guy who is trying to dump his GF, and she is going into overdrive cling mode to "save things". It's crazy.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/08/15 07:56 PM
0

You can't have an LTR when you live an hour away.
/r/askTRP12/08/15 07:06 PM
1

She shared personal problems she had with her father ( friendzone? ) Yes, friendzone. Sounds like too little too late. Besides, trying to hit on women at work is difficult just in terms of maybe she doesn't want to get fired, regardless of your not having an issue with it. Or maybe she doesn't date guys who work at fast food places.
/r/askTRP12/08/15 07:05 PM
-1

Are we talking about feelings now?
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 07:03 PM
2

Damn you. You're right. The OP needs to get a lawyer!
/r/MensRights12/08/15 07:02 PM
2

You can, but to me it says you are practicing your skills with poor quality women. What might work on taken women may not work on single women. Are you going to learn two ways to pick up two kinds of women? You are also letting them know you're a low quality guy who is a liar and cheater. You might even get a reputation that does you more harm than good. Worse, there are some guys that will come after you. Personally, I don't relish the idea of having to look over my shoulder all the time for wh…
/r/askTRP12/08/15 06:13 PM
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Why are you trying to run people off?
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 05:34 PM
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What is ironic is that he's pulling the same "poor me" and "I'm being discriminated against" bullshit that all sorts of whackjob women pull, but it's okay ... because he's a guy? It's like going to a religious bakery and asking them to make you a cake for a gay wedding. Ain't going to happen. But who cares? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. He's acting like a big crybaby.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 04:43 PM
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Huh? Did you read the article? Not only does he start out with: I am not married. but then he full well admits: the main reason for every regret is that you simply picked the wrong woman to marry. Why would you take that article as gospel? I've been divorced, and it was because I picked the wrong woman. I'm married now, to a great woman, and none of those items on his "list" exist in my marriage. Saying all marriages suck because a guy isn't smart enough to be able to pick and keep a good woman …
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 04:39 PM
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Really? Just find another company. There are plenty who want your money, you just happened to hit two with women in charge who are idiots.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:40 PM
2

Judging a book by it's cover and reviews is narrow-minded. You should "Look inside" the book. What do you have to lose?
/r/askTRP12/08/15 02:34 PM
1

Why? You want to be invited?
/r/askTRP12/08/15 02:29 PM
2

So because it has ONE one-star review out of 95 reviews, and 81% are 5-star reviews ... you don't want to read it?
/r/askTRP12/08/15 02:27 PM
1

Without seeing the whole conversation it's impossible to tell what happened. However, let's just say she's a bitch. Do not engage, she thrives on being rude, and that does you no good. The best thing you can do is to learn to identify women like this faster. Delete, block, move on. Now, if you were an asshole somehow, then blaming her does you no good. In fact, if you fucked up, you need to go back and identify what YOU did wrong and never do it again. You need to improve, and you can only do th…
/r/askTRP12/08/15 02:17 PM
1

Generally, if you invite someone on a date, you should pay. If you invite someone to "hang out" then you don't. Personally, I tell women something like "I paid this time, next time is on you." And I mean it. They cry every time they crack open their wallet but they keep paying. What is even more ridiculous is that most know I make 6 figures and they are making $8/hr, and I still make them pay. If they whine, I flip the script and say "Why, are you using me?" "Are you a golddigger or something?" …
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 02:14 PM
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Generally, if you invite someone on a date, you should pay. If you invite someone to "hang out" then you don't. Personally, I tell women something like "I paid this time, next time is on you." And I mean it. They cry every time they crack open their wallet but they keep paying. What is even more ridiculous is that most know I make 6 figures and they are making $8/hr, and I still make them pay. No problems here, just be upfront about it.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 02:13 PM
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My take - this is a BIG nope. And I've gone through this a few times when i was young and dumb. Here is why: Only move in with her if it is NOT for financial reasons or she/you have no other options. She's moving out of her parents? This is a financial move for her. She should get her own place. She needs to get out there on her own. You can always visit each other. After she's been on her own for a year then you may want to revisit this. Therefore, this is a trap for you. Other tips: Only move …
/r/askTRP12/08/15 02:11 PM
1

I had anger issues, and the book No More Mr. Nice Guy helped me. It specifically addresses why I was angry, and may be helpful for you as well. However, you should also consider talking to a therapist. I saw a guy for a few months and he really took care of everything. I would suggest you (1) only talk to a male therapist and (b) shop around until you find one who actually connects with you. You should walk out of each session feeling like he's turned your life upside down.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 02:04 PM
1

There have been some studies done on this. Google and read: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/13/living/wedding-expenses-study/ This is the first hit, but there are plenty more. My first wedding was small - just me and my wife. I realized later I was embarrassed to be marrying her, and we later got divorced. My second wedding was not huge (just 60 people) but was very nice. It felt good to invite people and show how happy we were together. We're going on 12 years with zero problems. So, in my experienc…
/r/askTRP12/08/15 01:50 PM
1

I ignore them. Kind of like fatties, except they are ugly on the outside and on the inside.
/r/askTRP12/08/15 01:45 PM
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Sounds like that guy and his "friends" have not met the right woman. None of those items are an issue in an excellent (not just average) marriage. None. That guy sounds like a misogynist who can't figure out women.
/r/MGTOW12/08/15 01:43 PM
2

Where to start? There are thousands of articles and books on the subject. I've been reading about stuff like this for well over 15 years. A book that come to mind: Dr. Tatiana's Advice to All Creation. Totally not what I expected, but shows that red pill, alpha, all that are just human male traits in all species across the planet. It's an amazing read. Google will uncover so much stuff your head will spin.
/r/askTRP12/08/15 01:40 PM
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Shitty article. I can tell you what they missed because this is old news. In fact, there are studies out there that describe this. When a woman is dating a guy and she realizes that he's a loser, she slowly starts backing away from the relationship. You know all those shit tests? Those things she does that suddenly annoy you? You can read about this every day on Reddit, and I replied to some guy yesterday about this. What is going on is she is trying to end the relationship physically because sh…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/08/15 01:37 PM
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I agree with /u/EscapedTheMatrix - a lot of the things he suggests are not great. Examples: He says you can talk about anything you have a passion about. Uh, no, huge fucking no. If you talk about cars, computers, video games, the gym, sports politics or religion (unless that is part of the venue, such as meeting her at church or at some political event), gross things (bodily functions, etc), scary things such as murderers or rapists, other women you know (except your amazing mother ... for no m…
/r/askTRP12/08/15 12:52 PM
1

You don't need to drink to have fun and be social. I can't drink and just order a club soda or something else that looks alcoholic. You can be just as social, if not better, when you are sober anyway. I go out most weekends and have a blast. Have some self control, own it, enjoy it. You will meet ladies and it will be fine.
/r/askTRP11/08/15 11:48 PM
1

Absolutely. A lot of people would rather suffer than spend any time improving themselves.
/r/askTRP11/08/15 10:39 PM
1

You missed the point, and are not being constructive at all. My sex life isn't the issue here. A hike is not a fantastic second date. In fact, unless she is a nature lover, a lot of women will be absolutely turned off by the idea of a guy being so dense as to think a hike is something she would want to do. There is so much more to the first dates than just that, but I'll save myself some typing.
/r/askTRP11/08/15 09:36 PM
1

This is not a bad thing. This is something that happens to guys because they don't pick up on signals and hints. Women are raised to be kind, nice, sweet, and never say no. They are not supposed to break up with you, they are taught to behave in a way that you don't like so you will break up with her. She will, of course, act upset, but you can ignore that. The point I am making is that you made some mistakes that turned her off. You need to do some serious retrospection and figure out what you …
/r/askTRP11/08/15 09:35 PM
1

FYI - I don't mean to be critical, just provide input. I had let her do most of the talking. I hope you were leading the conversation. Although you don't want to interrogate her, you do want to ask questions that give you answers to what you want to know. Ask her what she is into. Maybe she likes a specific TV show and you do? Great. You hate TV? Ok, maybe she's not great for you. Whatever you do, though, you can use that to determine what a good follow up date would be. Maybe she says she has a…
/r/askTRP11/08/15 09:32 PM
1

Be insulted. Seriously. Politely, in a calm way, tell her that her insecurity is not cool, and she's calling you a liar and cheater. Ask her how she thinks that makes you feel towards her? I would then tell her to never bring it up again unless she has photographic proof or walks in on you fucking some other woman. The point is to let her know that trust is critical for the relationship to last. No trust ... it's over. I've had excellent success with this method.
/r/askTRP11/08/15 07:22 PM
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A woman who has a high interest level in her man would never do anything to risk upsetting. Rather, she will be on her best behavior. When she is no longer attracted to him, she will start small with behaviors that are designed to get you to dump her. Starting small behaviors include things like: acting weird. throws tantrums gets emotional real quick without reason argues with me all the time about minor things. If the man does not pick up on these small behaviors, cannot resolve them, and avoi…
/r/askTRP11/08/15 07:15 PM
1

You learn your lessons. Learn what you did wrong. We have ALL been there. Lessons for you today: Never talk about your ex or ANY other woman. Not one! The ONLY woman you can talk about is your mother and what an amazing woman she is/was, and then you drop it. Never be serious on a date. Flirt, tease, joke, kino, escalate. Never give details about your life. "The less you talk, the longer you last." That means shut up. Ask her questions and let her do the talking. Leave her wondering about you an…
/r/askTRP11/08/15 05:14 PM
3

What would I do? I'm an older guy and I would have immediately told her that hitting me is a one-way ticket to the door. You were surprised, and did not do that, but both you and she know there is tension now. You have made a mistake by not stepping up and dealing with this conflict, which makes you less attractive. I would suggest you read No More Mr. Nice Guy when you get a chance. In the meantime, assuming you enjoy her company and want to continue on, I would meet with her for a drink somewh…
/r/askTRP11/08/15 05:04 PM
3

After nearly 15 years, I've come to the simple conclusion that a red flag is pretty much any time a woman acts in a way that shows she does not respect you, your life, or your time. If you ask her on a date, and she makes an excuse? She's not interested. She never comes to your place? Not interested. Flirts with other guys? Doesn't take care of you? Kids with other dudes? No job? Box full of unpaid parking tickets? Smashed up car? Dirty bedroom? Overweight mother? Not clinically sane, or has "me…
/r/askTRP11/08/15 04:43 PM
1

My take: Met up with her a week later and had drinks, played pool, then kissed. Good. Texted her to hike Hike. Really? A hike? How in the world are you going to have a chill time, she can get dressed up and wear that sexy thong, and you can have a drink or two and end up in bed. A hike. Sweaty, dirty, dusty, hiking boots and maybe even a few ticks. (Don't get me wrong, hikes are fine, but they are not dates, let alone a second date.) You screwed up. The key here is that a hike is something a mal…
/r/askTRP11/08/15 04:34 PM
2

It was funny if you had a sense of humor.
/r/askTRP11/08/15 04:24 PM
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Simple - between two men, who is the better choice? he's a quiet awkward dude, etc. He sounds like instant friendzone. If you start acting jealous or worried, you will be expressing insecurity and low self-confidence. You will also be telegraphing that you think she is a cheater, and you're very low quality. Then maybe she'll say "Geez, ayotex is some kind of loser too. Maybe Bob from work actually has something going for him." Boom, you shot yourself in the foot. My suggestion? Tell her somethi…
/r/askTRP11/08/15 04:01 PM
1

Keep in mind this advice is for a (so-called) LTR (3 months? Uh, okay, but whatever) and the OP is trying to maintain it. No, because if she does it again she's been warned that it's a deal breaker. You're telling her that you are paying attention, you are very high quality, you demand to be treated better, and she needs to behave better fast. It also states that you're aware and giving her a chance because she apparently didn't know better. I can't stress how much of a between-the-lines communi…
/r/askTRP11/08/15 03:53 PM
1

It doesn't matter. The best advice I ever got, courtesy of Doc Love, some ten years ago was this: Rule #1: Do not date any woman who is not clinically sane. They advertise it? Great, you avoid it.
/r/askTRP10/08/15 11:08 PM
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Tell them you were in a car accident. Change the topic. Why are you over thinking this? I injured my neck and was in a brace and told everyone who asked a different story. Skydiving accident. Rock climbing accident. Racing. Shaving. Mugged. Rough sex. Lawnmower. I mean ... own it.
/r/askTRP10/08/15 09:17 PM
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Cancels once out of 4 dates and you've had sex? Life happens, I would not worry. Ask her out again, and if she cancels or makes an excuse it means you screwed up somehow. Maybe you were bad in bed, had BO, moved too fast, whatever. Analyze what went wrong and don't do it again.
/r/askTRP10/08/15 09:03 PM
1

They ask: Reading what? I say: Self improvement books, stuff on relationships, and how to be a better man. Want to check it out? Shit, I've even bought a few books for guy friends who need some help but don't know it.
/r/askTRP10/08/15 08:59 PM
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That's good to hear, $30 isn't unheard of for a great date. I think you will be happy with the results asking women for drinks. FYI - in my experience, not paying for her food or drink, if you asked her on the date, is bad form (bad manners) and may have been a turnoff for her (if that is what went down). Of course, there are a lot of nuances. If she insisted on going dutch, she invited you, or something else, ok. In any event, she may have been signalling to you that she was not into you hence …
/r/askTRP10/08/15 08:55 PM
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Went for a quick bite to eat (I was hungry), then I venue-changed her to a sushi place for a few glasses of wine. How much did that cost? My best first dates - assuming you are over 21 - is to go for "a drink, maybe two" which should cost you less than $20 (or so). This weeds out women who are looking for a free dinner (shit, dude, I would go out with you for sushi) and are not into you. It's not nearly as expensive, either. Are you going to drop $50 - $80 on every first date to find out she's n…
/r/askTRP10/08/15 08:38 PM
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My bad, that would be for 21+. Basically, good first dates are $20 or less. You could go chill at a park and feed ducks/critters, go for a short hike, go to a free museum, etc. Just do something where you two will be left alone and can talk, flirt, and have fun.
/r/askTRP10/08/15 08:19 PM
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"Drinks". That's it. Don't spend more than $20 (or so) on any date.
/r/askTRP10/08/15 06:18 PM
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My wife was 21 and I was 34 when I met. We had instant chemistry and I thought she was older (25) and she hoped I wasn't older than 30 (oh well). No problems whatsoever. This was after years of meeting & dating crap women. Personally, if I were you I wouldn't date anyone under 21. How are you going to go out and have drinks, go to clubs, whatever? I mean, are you going to stay home and watch Netflix? What do you get out of dating a girl who probably has an overprotective father, and she lives at…
/r/askTRP10/08/15 06:15 PM
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She also sent a picture to one of her gamer friend (beta orbiter) about herself asking how does she looks like (fishing for compliments much?) and he sent back a picture of him reaching to his boxers as a joke then she told me about that happening. Disrespectful. I don't tolerate that just as common decency. You're not sending pics to other women, are you? I would suggest you tell her something like: Hey, fun and games aside, you sending pics to guys you know like that is disrespectful to me, ma…
/r/askTRP10/08/15 06:08 PM
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Serious? Leave her. I can promise you that it won't get better, but it will get worse. Not all women are like that. My wife of 12 years now still wants sex almost as much as when we first started dating. This morning while I was making breakfast she made that very apparent. Date to disqualify women who do not meet your needs. Raise your standards. You can get what you want, but not if you're "staying" with someone who is obviously not into you. If you're not single .. you will never meet the wom…
/r/askTRP10/08/15 05:55 PM
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I know exactly what you are talking about. However ... on tinder There's your problem right there. There are plenty of women who have a life, but you're not going to meet them online. Tinder folks are glued to their phone/PC. It's like the joke about how Reddit is full of cats because dog people actually go outside and have a life. Same concept. I meet all women in real life. I go to places and events that I enjoy, and find people (men and women) who also enjoy similar things. Go wine tasting, g…
/r/askTRP10/08/15 05:51 PM
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What's the age of consent where you live? Personally, I say if you have to lie you're doing something wrong.
/r/askTRP10/08/15 05:40 PM
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Wow. Majority? I showed those to a friend of a friend and only has like 6 of them, and broke up. I would suggest you tell her to get a professional opinion and talk to 2-3 different therapists until she finds one she likes. It's good to get a second, unbiased opinion. Good luck, I know I would do anything to help my sister too.
/r/askTRP09/08/15 04:33 PM
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Have her read this. How many items can she check off? http://www.drjoecarver.com/clients/49355/File/IdentifyingLosers.html Let her also know that was he is doing is essentially mind control, such as this: https://www.freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php She's being used. She needs a wake up call.
/r/askTRP09/08/15 01:58 PM
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Next her. Find a woman who is into you and sex. Simple.
/r/askTRP09/08/15 01:55 PM
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I'm 46 and divorced once. My perspective: He needs to read No More Mr Nice Guy. Period. This helped me tremendously after my first divorce. What he said to you sounds like what happened to me. I've also heard about this book but have not read it. It sounds applicable too. I personally really liked, and benefited from, David DeAngelo's Double Your Dating book (I think you can download it now). I also really enjoyed his CD set of Interview with Dating Gurus. I am just getting into the Married Man …
/r/askTRP09/08/15 01:50 PM
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If your woman is bi, and you are bringing other women into bed with you I see no problems. This has worked very, very well for me. If you are bringing other men into the picture, you're doing it wrong.
/r/askTRP07/08/15 03:05 PM
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When my wife is rude, this works for me: That was rude, you need to apologize. Then wait. She'll usually blow up, so I tell her something like: Look, I know you're {frustrated, worried, upset, hurried, angry} but that does not give you the right to treat me like shit. You need to calm down, apologize, and treat me with respect. Then we can talk about what's going on. Then if she is rude again, tell her she's still being rude and needs to calm down and apologize. One of my favorite questions to a…
/r/MarriedRedPill07/08/15 02:56 PM
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Been there, done that. Turns out she was using me (shocking, I know). She was fucking so many other guys I got an STD. Another woman I dated much later was the same way, but refused to convert for her, and refused to date her. Told her she was a fuck, and nothing more. And that worked out very well for a number of years. Fuck her or drop her.
/r/askTRP07/08/15 01:55 PM
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You did fine here, and you should continue to do so. I have always found speaking the truth to management works wonders. As long as you held frame and did not lose your cool, there's not much she can do about it. If she tries to get crazy on you, there is always HR.
/r/askTRP07/08/15 01:51 PM
1

I'm 46 and will happily point out that I'm going out with our 21 yo babysitter tonight. Wall? I don't see any signs of it yet.
/r/askTRP07/08/15 01:48 PM
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When I divorced my ex-wife, I let her take all the shit she wanted. I feigned interest, to get her hamster going and she greedily tried to "trick" me out of more stuff. It worked great. It cost me less to move It was easier to move since I didn't have much crap My new place had nothing that reminded me of her She actually had to get a storage space for all the shit, and paid for it for a year because she didn't have the space for it. Just to mess with her, I would tell her she couldn't have stup…
/r/askTRP06/08/15 02:53 PM
1

Absolutely beta, friendzone. It means you need to dump them and move on.
/r/askTRP06/08/15 01:59 PM
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Only if she is setting you up with her hot friends, just like a male buddy would do. She also has to be doing the give and take. Sometimes she pays, sometimes she drives, sometimes she does stuff for you (like cooking a killer meal), etc. If she's just a sponge, then no.
/r/askTRP06/08/15 01:55 PM
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My opinion. This is what BP guys do. They pick off the low hanging fruit because they can't do any better. This isn't alpha, it's desperation. Worse, you are giving yourself a reputation as a liar and a cheater. You think she's telling the truth. That's funny. She's the alpha, you are the plate. She isn't divorcing him now, is she? Nope. She's got two men kissing her ass, but it's probably more than just the two of you. Do you really think Chad Thundercock would get involved in this trainwreck?
/r/askTRP06/08/15 01:54 PM
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Why the fuck are you talking to this bitch? You're validating that she can treat you like shit and jerk you around. Block her number and move on. For fucks sake.
/r/askTRP06/08/15 01:37 PM
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I understand anything goes in this Subreddit Actually, the rules say: Please be constructive, it's ok to make mistakes. And to that end, anyone who is an asshole in here is probably some pissed of woman, so I disregard them.
/r/askTRP06/08/15 01:12 PM
1

This will sound lame, but worked for me. Practice singing along to music in the lowest tone you can. I do it when I'm alone or driving.
/r/askTRP06/08/15 01:48 AM
1

Looks like a 12 year old to me. Why waste any time on him/her?
/r/MensRights05/08/15 07:32 PM
2

Landlord here. What state do you live in? What does your lease say? Right off the bat it sounds to me he's a scumbag. He's ripping you off. It doesn't cost $300 to clean, and if the kitchen had a blacksplash this would not be an issue. It's called normal wear and tear, and for him it's a cost of business. You also (in most states) have a legal right to see receipts that the work was performed by a professional. That way he doesn't just pocket the cash. This sounds scammy to me. Right off the bat…
/r/askTRP05/08/15 04:26 PM
1

If she's not good enough for him, why do you think she's good enough for you? Looks don't go very far if the chick is clinically medically ill. I'd pass.
/r/askTRP05/08/15 04:09 PM
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You have oneitus. Move on.
/r/askTRP05/08/15 03:55 PM
2

You may want to pick up the book No More Mr. Nice Guy, by Dr. Glover. It has some great insights and helped me get over the same issues you are going through. FWIW, I'm 46 now, and all those problems pretty much went away. Time and self-improvement can make a tremendous difference.
/r/askTRP05/08/15 01:17 PM
1

Is it just me, or does this sound too good to be true? Two 17 year olds want to bang a 29 year old guy? Age of consent may be 17, but is there any law that says "unless one party is 5 years older or more". I've seen those before. Beware. Personally, I'd say the risk factor is WAY to fucking high here. I think you would have to be absolutely fucking insane to do something like this, especially considering the huge number of law enforcement agencies that set up stings like this all the time. They …
/r/askTRP04/08/15 04:20 PM
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I would seriously leave the country if that shit happened to me. No fucking way.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 04:16 PM
1

Real life story: My wife and I were walking back to our car, late at night, in a large but nearly empty parking lot. As we walked, I noticed 3-4 young men following us, but thought nothing of it. As we neared our car, I noticed a few things: They were closing on us, walking faster. They were getting quieter. There were no other cars beyond ours, so they were not walking to their own car. There were no other destinations (stores/homes/etc) beyond our car - just a river that they presumably would …
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 04:11 PM
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FUCKING VOLUME WARNING PLEASE!
/r/PussyPassDenied04/08/15 03:43 PM
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Delete. If they get out, in some states she can sue you. Big problem. More importantly, it will help you want to find a different woman.
/r/askTRP04/08/15 02:43 PM
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It's insulting that she thinks you're going to turn into some misogynistic asshole. Very insulting. RP is very educational, and obviously has helped a lot of men, and has obviously helped you and her! Flat out tell her that you read (and/or contribute) to TRP, but like every other fucking website out there, there's always a bunch of assholes, and a lot of bullshit, and you don't subscribe to everything just because it's been written by who the hell knows on the internet. Half of the stuff on her…
/r/askTRP04/08/15 02:31 PM
2

Anal?
/r/askTRP03/08/15 09:27 PM
1

Jesus fuck, you're trying to insult me for pointing out what happens to guys like you? Really? If you're so smart why are you here asking questions? Go fuck her, show your buddy she's a cheater, and then get your prize, and come back and tell us all about your victory. Yeah, really. I want to hear about this disaster.
/r/askTRP03/08/15 09:23 PM
1

I've seen this dozens of time. This woman is alpha, any man playing her game is a plate, and that includes you. She's playing dread game on him, and it's working. Do you think men are the only ones who play games? She's spinning you. If you fuck her, she'll "get caught" and then you have played her game and lost your friend, and she will obviously dump you and go screw some other guy. She is using you to destroy your friendship with your friend. You think you're "helping" your friend, when you'r…
/r/askTRP03/08/15 04:47 PM
1

"Oh, so that's what we are going to do tonight? We're going to fight?" /Red Foreman
/r/askTRP03/08/15 04:38 PM
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Except she went home and fucked her "loser" boyfriend. You didn't take anything, she took from you. You warmed her up, and she left. She's alpha, you and he are beta. Is that who you want to be? You accepted the fact that she has a boyfriend, you proved to her you are beta because you can't get a quality single woman, and you proved you're worse than her boyfriend because you are a cheater. You're a liar, you're desperate, and you're scum. You're no better than her "long-term beta video game pla…
/r/askTRP03/08/15 03:51 PM
1

I've slept with plenty of roommates. No problems. I never settled down with any of them though. It does make it much harder to see other women though. Unless everyone is down for a threesome. YMMV. Worse, if things go south in a bad way, you are still living together. As long as you can pack up and move out, or kick her out, then it's a non-issue.
/r/askTRP03/08/15 03:44 PM
1

Personally, I tend to reply only after she has set 2-3 messages/comments, and then I will reply with only 1 message that is short, and never right away. The only time I do reply quickly is if we're meeting somewhere and she can't find me. I keep that short and sweet, though. For example, I'm at a bar and she just arrived, so she asks where I am, and I'll reply "outside" or "upstairs bar" or whatever.
/r/askTRP03/08/15 02:40 PM
2

Go see your own male therapist. Couples? No, not a chance.
/r/askTRP30/07/15 04:41 PM
1

It probably doesn't matter. "some sort of friend" sounds like "beta" and no chance. Very few women I've known have anything going on with their male roommates.
/r/askTRP30/07/15 04:39 PM
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The real issue here is the words "nice guy" and "asshole". Those are labels given by women, and by and large then do not adequately translate to male language. When a woman says a guy is a "nice guy", what they really mean is "he is sexually unattractive" and he displays more female traits than male traits. He also likely lacks self-control, lacks confidence, and is boring and predictable. He supplicates himself to women and it's an immature approach which women abhor. When a woman says a man is…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/15 07:43 PM
1

Alcohol. Everyone plays together ... or no one does. Stop talking about it.
/r/askTRP29/07/15 03:35 PM
1

What always blows me away is the huge divorce statistics, mostly initiated by women. Isn't it something like 72% are initiated by the woman? If so, this tells me most women are unhappy with most men. And I've been divorced, and was incredibly BP at the time. True to the course. I took some time to grow up and learn how to be a better man, and RP is a part of that (but not all-encompassing), and my success with women has improved dramatically. The women in my life are much happier, as am I. But e…
/r/askTRP29/07/15 03:30 PM
2

Yeah, you know what? We should all subscribe to that list (however you do it) and upvote other members anywhere we see them on the site.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/15 03:16 PM
1

Same here. OP is next.
/r/askTRP29/07/15 02:28 PM
1

Exactly. 100% agreed. It can't be your #1 option.
/r/askTRP29/07/15 12:51 PM
2

The short story is that boys used to be raised with their fathers, out on the farm or in the workshop, etc. They were exposed to mostly male lessons and so forth. With the advent of modern society, boys are placed in school and most teachers are female. Then after school they go home to their mother as well. When dad comes home, exposure is much more minimal. The result is boys are raised to act like girls - expected to sit quietly in school for example, and not "rough house". However, many stud…
/r/askTRP29/07/15 12:33 PM
2

One time we broke up and when we got back together Right here was the end of the relationship. Nothing more is needed. Everything else, what a waste of time. LDR's are non-relationships. I won't date any woman who lives more than 15 minutes away from me. Move on to a real woman. This was never going to work.
/r/askTRP29/07/15 01:28 AM
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Google how boys are being taught feminized lessons, and how teachers are mostly female which affects upbringing. It's not the mother stuff, but probably a lot more relevant.
/r/askTRP29/07/15 01:20 AM
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Do you think she is cheating, being dishonest, or hiding something from you? If so, and you don't like that (I don't) then tell her or dump her. Personally, I dump chicks like that. There's no need to snoop. You know what's up.
/r/askTRP29/07/15 01:17 AM
1

How do you handle trolls online? Ignore her. Frankly, I'd move out. Life's too short to put up with BS.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 06:20 PM
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Because it's 100% truth.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 06:19 PM
1

10-15 isn't slut territory in my opinion, but I'm saying that in reference to women in their late 20's to 40's. If you're 18 to 21-ish, that's a bit high.
/r/askTRP28/07/15 06:18 PM
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Got it. I'd sure as hell fire any therapist that said "What's wrong with you" after bring this stuff up. Think about a woman bringing up feminism and getting the same response.
/r/askTRP28/07/15 06:00 PM
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I guess I don't understand ... why not? I think there is nothing wrong with saying something like "I think most guys are submissive and that leads to relationship problems. You know, all these guys who work out and are players get all the women, they seem a lot happier! I read articles here and there and many point out a lot of guys are emasculated and unhappy, and I agree. I read some forums and they even call it the red pill, like an awakening for so many guys." James Bond, Cary Grant, Clint E…
/r/askTRP28/07/15 05:42 PM
2

Absolutely. If you omit information or lie to him he is going to give you advice based on what he assumes. Besides, if he doesn't help you, shop around and find someone who can. A long time ago I needed some therapy and the 4th guy I worked with was a fucking genius. He had a PhD and rave reviews. I'd tell him the 100% absolute truth, and he's break it down in a way that I could understand and work with. I'd walk out of there with my whole life turned upside down in a great way. Turns out, he wa…
/r/askTRP28/07/15 05:06 PM
3

You completely missed the point.
/r/askTRP28/07/15 05:03 PM
1

While unlikely, see a physician if this is a regular issue. This can be a sign of heart problems. If that's a non-issue, then find a hotter chick who turns you on without you having to think about it.
/r/askTRP28/07/15 05:03 PM
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I will respectfully disagree, but at the same time agree with you because you not only contradict yourself, but seem to actually agree with me: all [people] have different things that turn them on Exactly my point. People have quite various likes and dislikes in bed. You seem to think you can "train" a woman to like certain sex acts and all will be well. But you just said that is not the case, and it's quite myopic to think that anyone could do so, regarding sex or anything else. If a woman does…
/r/askTRP28/07/15 03:48 PM
2

I'm going to quote Doc Love, because he nailed it on the basics: The three major Female Trait qualities that men should be aware of and look for in a long term mate are: Integrity, made up of Loyalty, Trust, and Honesty; Giving; and Flexibility. Once you apply those, a lot of other traits just fall into place.
/r/askTRP28/07/15 12:17 PM
1

No partner count but a high sex drive? I'm fine with a low partner count, but I don't want to sleep with completely inexperienced women - they usually are pretty bad in bed.
/r/askTRP28/07/15 12:12 PM
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Who the hell wants to sleep with a virgin? They absolutely suck in bed.
/r/askTRP28/07/15 12:11 PM
1

Well shit. Reddit really needs some quality moderators. Stuff like that is such a destroyer of websites.
/r/askTRP28/07/15 11:56 AM
2

The only way of turning this around is to stop being a beta orbiter and finding another woman. You shouldn't waste more than FIVE MINUTES trying to get to know a woman and find out if you're in or not. You're not "in" with this woman. Move on. This is like looking at buying a used sports car. Imagine you found a 10 year old Porsche, and it's perfect, but there is no engine. Instead, there's a solid block of steel welded to the frame which cannot be removed. The seller wants MSRP ... for a car th…
/r/askTRP27/07/15 03:45 PM
1

Go to /r/Rateme and post a pic. At times I have sat in cafes and noticed girls who would look at me and then as I looked back at them they instantly looked away. Did they look down, or away to the side? Down = submission = they are attracted to you. Away = not attracted to you. I have occasionally had girls chat me up but it doesn't happen that often, these girls were strangers. This has never happened to me. Ever. And I'm not ugly. (I'm probably a 7.) Sounds like you're better looking than me, …
/r/askTRP27/07/15 02:41 PM
2

Seen this before - I strongly suspect she has fucked some other guy(s) and probably is already pregnant. She's going to drop the bomb on some guy who makes the most money and proclaim he is the father. If she does, just laugh and tell her you'll be glad to do your part when she gets a paternity test. My friend went through this just last year. He's an awesome guy making 6 figures. Too bad the other guy she fucked who was the real father is a jobless, drug abusing, deadbeat with 3 other kids from…
/r/askTRP27/07/15 02:36 PM
1

I would not recommend letting your wife sleep around with men - ever. You'd be far wiser to marry a bisexual woman and bring other women home and fuck them together. If you have the right relationship, and you're RP, it can be very natural and easy. If you have a bad relationship, or otherwise are not mature enough, it's an immediate disaster area. If you're like my neighbors, where the wife wants to fuck other men because her husband is BP, you're gonna have a bad time. Short story is she lost …
/r/askTRP27/07/15 01:57 PM
1

If she starts dumping on you, tell her that this isn't a therapy session. Change the topic. If she continues, end the date. For this reason, all my first dates are for "a drink". If things go good, you can get another drink, move venues, etc. Don't pay more than $20 and you should be fine. If she is no fun, finish your drink and leave. Simple. I can't tell you how many dates I've said "This isn't really working out. It was nice meeting you, but this date is over. Goodnight." and I get up and wal…
/r/askTRP24/07/15 03:55 PM
1

There are more things going on, but you're making it more complex than you need to. He's a beta-orbiter. She's using him to feel better about herself at his expense. He is giving her all the control. He's letting her treat him like a child. He's not getting the clue. He is spineless and should go talk to a single woman and hit on her. And on and on. What more do you need to know? Everything he is doing is wrong. He needs to get away from her. He needs to read some books on dating, pickup, flirti…
/r/askTRP24/07/15 03:39 PM
2

To clarify - you DID call her fat, you just didn't use the word "fat". Criticizing a woman's eating habits is indirectly calling her fat. Hence my comment. Learn from this, don't do it again.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/07/15 03:36 PM
2

Been there, and it sucks. Until a few months later when you meet an even hotter woman because you're out and being social with your buddies. Keep on moving. Learn from past mistakes, but don't get stuck in the past.
/r/askTRP24/07/15 03:35 PM
1

She was telling him no, politely, but he wasn't taking the hint. He needs to wake up.
/r/askTRP24/07/15 02:54 PM
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Why would you insult her right before you were having sex? You called her fat, basically. You fucked that up pretty good. How to handle? Don't fuck up like that again. When you insult her, it's going to make her mad and depressed, and then she'll want to eat more. Next time, just fuck her brains out and go to bed.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/07/15 02:45 PM
1

This will sound stupid, but practice singing. Practice in a lower voice. Taking a shower? Driving? Whatever. It has made a huge difference for me.
/r/askTRP24/07/15 02:42 PM
3

Your friend Bob is an idiot for trying to be friends with her, what more is there? She is using him to make herself feel better. He should be talking to YOU about how to meet hot chicks, etc., and let you wing for him.
/r/askTRP24/07/15 02:31 PM
3

Please have him sign a pre-nup for business reasons (your reason). he and I run two apartment rentals, for which he's been very reliable doing his share of the work. It was thanks to his incredible hard work of savings of $50k in only 2 years that we were able to invest in the second apartment in a very swank neighborhood. If he can't, then tell him that he cannot be involved in the business because you don't want her as part owner of YOUR business.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 03:12 AM
1

Get out of the house. At all costs. Dress up nicely and go somewhere for lunch, dinner, a drink, to shoot pool, any-fucking-thing. Learn to be social, buy a book or see a therapist if needed. Staying at home is death.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 06:20 PM
1

They are expecting me to train her That happened to me once. I came in and quit on the spot. Fuck all that noise. Go find a better job. With that said, go here and read this, and replace the word "woman" with "man" everywhere. http://www.wageproject.org/files/ga_fire.php Then go hire a lawyer and sue, sue, sue. Tell them this part: he said, "The company president thought it would be more appropriate for a woman to have a presence in the office." Enjoy your job for the rest of your life.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 04:03 PM
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I'm kind of where you are - married, two kids (3 & 1), she's a SAHM. I'd like to know more about this: We had a decent discussion about two weeks ago where I explained all of the things that I was not happy with Such as what? Details needed. and things that I felt we needed to work on as a couple. Such as what? Again, details needed. I held frame the whole time and rejected pretty much every thing she threw at me Such as what? More details needed. even when she started crying a couple of times b…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/15 02:38 PM
1

YW. FYI - For the same money you could be buying English Laundry, Bugatchi, and so forth - much, much nicer than CK and maybe even better quality. Think Nordstroms quality at Macy's prices!
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 04:26 PM
1

The truth shall set you free. Women test you to see if you're going to lie. You bought a self-improvement book. Good for you. If anyone asks, you say "Yes, it's to make me a better person." Women hate liars. If you want to watch the game on TV, say so and do it. If you want to go to the gym, say so and do it. Women want a leader, not a "child that listens to mommy". Don't lie to her and bow to her will. Tell her what you want. It's amazing to see how they appreciate the truth. If you have a hars…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 02:23 PM
1

Yeah, he has some really great, easy to understand concepts, and it's well done. He's miles ahead of Mystery in terms of usable information that has better long term results.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 02:28 PM
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Good move. Go do some reading instead.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 09:46 PM
2

I could not agree more. It is scary how it is so obvious to outsiders, but incomprehensible to him.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 09:45 PM
1

Have you read David DeAngelo's stuff? PM'ing you about the resume.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 07:52 PM
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My father is a fund raiser. If you do it well, and I mean really fucking well, and can get people to write big checks, you will be very happy. Can you follow an education path to that goal? I'd consider doing that if my current career gets boring. He enjoys it a lot, meets a lot of interesting people, gets to travel, and is highly sought after by companies.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/07/15 07:46 PM
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Perhaps the fortnightly or monthly conversation. I'll say it again - avoid toxic women at all costs. You will only be exposed to how to act like a victim around women, and other women will find you unattractive as a result. This is a huge issue for many guys who haven't seen the light. You have to learn this lesson. I wouldn't spend one minute with her, period. She's trash, she's crap, she's a horrible person. You can learn nothing valuable from her, other than the red flags of just about everyt…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 07:14 PM
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The only common denominator in all your failed relationships is you. This was a demotivator poster I came across when I was in the same place. Let me ask you this - what have you done to educate or improve yourself? I'm constantly being rejected by girls What books have you read in the past year on dating, flirting, body language, and so forth? How much time have you spend applying those principles, trying new techniques, making note of failures, and changing your approach? I've applied to 60+ j…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 06:58 PM
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I'm going to break this down for you. She is a cheater, plain and simple. Nothing she does is for your benefit, it is only for hers. No good can come from this. If something goes wrong, I guarantee you she will throw you under the fucking bus. She will say you came onto her, and you will get the beating of your life from your cousin, and then be exiled from your family. She's a smarter woman than you are a smart man. Why? Simple - she is getting attention from her husband, and attention from you…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 06:52 PM
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Buy and read the Married Man Sex Life Primer. Right now. We have discussed this Which is a turn-off for her. You don't discuss sex with a woman, you flirt, tease, take the lead, get her turned on, and fuck her silly. I've asked if it's anything I can do/change Yes, stop being a needy little boy. Stop asking her for permission. Start being more adult, more fun, more sexual. Have you read Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo? If not, Google and download it. It's a great place to start. she insists…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/07/15 06:10 PM
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if I lack any confidence at all, my teasing starts a fight. To which I reply: Oh, so that's what we're doing tonight? We're going to fight? http://i.imgur.com/3VZbtXf.jpg Personally, I really like the Cocky Funny stuff David DeAngelo lays out in Double Your Dating (Google, download). It's mature and fun. I do not do stupid pranks/gags/immature shit. Of course, I'm 46, the wife is 33, but we've been together for 12 years and I'm still the same. I am of the opinion that guys who "prank" their wive…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/07/15 06:03 PM
1

All good advice here. Just remember ... one day, she will touch you, and you need to be able to repeat back to her the same words.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/15 01:45 AM
1

What about the guys who are in a LTR, have an open relationship, but it's him who is fucking other women (where the woman isn't fucking other guys)?
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 05:56 PM
1

Parents will unconsciously put more effort into caring for female children. Not unconsciously. I full well plan on doing this with my daughter(s) because they are FAR more likely to care for me in my old age.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/15 05:12 PM
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My take - there's not enough information here to really say. Can you tell us more about these items? Recently I sat her down and told her to curb her spending on extras. How much has she been spending, and on what kind of "extras"? she has been going overboard. By what measure? And why? This is important - if you don't tell her how you measure her spending, then how is she - or anyone - supposed to know their limit? And why? Is she bored, depressed, stuck at home too often? We do have some money…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/07/15 04:52 PM
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Google and download Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo. It's a great read after NMMNG.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 03:55 PM
2

Tip: Stop with the lame jokes. No one likes them. A polite thank you is all that is needed. Act like an adult male, not a little boy, and especially not a little girl.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 09:39 PM
2

Fucking awesome. Read it and post an update tomorrow.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 09:38 PM
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Dude. Go read Double Your Dating. NOW.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 07:26 PM
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Yeah, you're a plate, she's the RedPiller. She's smart, you're dumb. You are especially dumb for wasting time on a woman with a boyfriend because you don't know how to play the game. It doesn't matter that she has a boyfriend, per se, but it does matter if you can't score. Here's the analogy someone told me: She's a smart woman, a smart investor. This woman has at least two men giving her attention, but in truth it's probably far more. Let's assume she has the boyfriend and THREE other suckers, …
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 04:47 PM
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She has a boyfriend She's using your weakness and she knows it. Stop giving her any of your attention.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 04:19 PM
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I agree with you - I just don't agree with the OP's reason.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 04:46 PM
1

I disagree. Around the 90's a study came out of Cornell University (if I recall correctly) that discussed the various health issues neckties caused, such as restricted blood flow to the brain and potential eyesight issues. Here's a tiny article I found: http://articles.latimes.com/1987-06-23/news/vw-10030_1_dietary-fat Look at the date on that article. There are others: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3104093.stm Anyway, about that time, many companies decided to jump on the "creative" bandwag…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 02:46 PM
1

You're welcome. I just go gym Improves your mind and body - but doesn't teach you anything new on how to interact with women. socialize a lot Okay, but how does this improve your skills with women? You're just being yourself. And that is bad. Read this: http://www.sosuave.com/articles/whynot.htm Quote: Do you think that Michael Jordan became the greatest basketball player in history by JBYing? When he failed to make the varsity team in High School, do you think he went home and said, "Oh well. I…
/r/seduction08/06/15 06:23 PM
1

Your looks have very little to do with women, your behaviors do though. If you "act" ugly women will pick up on it in a millisecond. If you are with a woman and you let it be one-sided, she knows and that's why she leaves. If you don't get what you want in return, dump her. If she finds someone better, that means you are not paying attention to, or aware of, the red flags she is sending you. Learn to get rid of women who display a low interest level. Every minute you spend with her is a minute y…
/r/seduction08/06/15 05:27 PM
1

This book has some pretty cool stuff that address this: http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Tatianas-Sex-Advice-Creation/dp/0805063323 PDF: http://www.scribd.com/doc/61500401/Dr-Tatiana-s-Sex-Advice-to-All-Creation-the-Definitive-Guide-to-the-Evolutionary-Biology-of-Sex-Olivia-Judson#scribd It's worth a read.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/15 04:57 PM
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I didn't actually read the book, but picked it up on a recommendation somewhere. I had my wife read it, and it was interesting. She didn't care for it much, but she also agreed with several points and went along with them. The result was she conceded a lot of "power points" to my responsibility, which was helpful. I should read it to see exactly what it says, but overall I was pleased with the results. However, with that said, I also realized that a guy has to have his shit together and able to …
/r/RedPillBooks24/05/15 05:23 PM
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Oh, I'm an idiot. Sorry, I have the paperback. Now I understand the downvotes.
/r/RedPillBooks23/05/15 06:14 PM
2

Share what?
/r/RedPillBooks21/05/15 12:58 PM
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You need to buy one of these: http://www.amazon.com/High-Cotton-Doormat-Come-Warrant/dp/B00020O572
/r/MensRights06/05/15 07:23 PM
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Yup.
/r/RedPillBooks30/04/15 10:41 PM
2

The best advice I ever heard: Whatever a woman says she wants ... do the opposite.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/15 02:33 PM
0

Move out. Physical violence is the mark of a loser. Living with someone who is insane only holds you back.
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 05:48 PM
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I am of the opinion that if you, as a high value man, cannot find a high-quality AND single woman, and knowingly (keyword) resort to dishonesty (lying, cheating), then you're not really a high quality man. It means your skills and abilities are sub-par. You are sub-par. Why can't you pick up a single woman? You have a problem, and you need to address it. Cheating ruins your reputation, proves you are dishonest, and a litany of other negative aspects that all lower your self-worth. Cheating is li…
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 02:37 PM
1

You're welcome. You can learn to do anything you want if you take the time. The most amazing thing IMO is that once you get started learning about women, dating, relationships, etc., I discovered it's really a lot easier. If you are looking for some books to read, I found http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove and his stuff to be really excellent in terms of judging women and screening out women who were not interested in you. It was the first book I read, and is great for beginners. Had I read hi…
/r/seduction12/04/15 11:57 AM
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Ok, here's your lesson for the day. When you ask a woman on a date, and you asked her to a specific time/place low-cost (under $20) venue where you two can sit and talk, and you used the word "date" (making your intentions clear), you will get one of three responses, and from here you can determine her interest level. For example, you say "So, Alice, I'd like to get to know you better. You should go on a date with me. Let's go to Mikes bar and grille, Thursday, 8pm. I'll buy you a drink. What do…
/r/seduction10/04/15 03:19 PM
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My take: You blew it. Do you like Chipotle? Translation: I have no game, can I pay you to hang out with me? hey I'm really bad at answering my phone anyways, so I really just talk on facebook haha Translation: I don't want to talk to you. You're boring and don't understand social norms (how to ask me out on a date, making your intentions clear, you're lying to me, you're like every other lame guy.) [Sorry.] All in all, the conversation was boring. You did not flirt, tease her, or be honest and a…
/r/seduction10/04/15 02:03 PM
2

better looking with better personalities I'm 45, and I've discovered that these good looking men often have horribly under-developed personalities. They rely on their looks to meet women, but then they have no social skills and are really bad at keeping women interested in them. They get dumped and cheated on. Kind of like ... you. :( Worse, these guys don't learn from their mistakes, refuse to think they are the problem, and repeat the cycle. It's like burning dinner every night, but never pick…
/r/seduction10/04/15 12:31 PM
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Think about this ... Why would a woman cheat on you? Because you're not good enough? Could this be a self-image problem? I'm just trying to say I think you need to take a deeper look at this issue and see if you can figure out the root cause. Did something happen with past GF's? Family members? Something else?
/r/seduction10/04/15 12:43 AM
1

Ehhhh ... if you're saying picking up on women is as easy or easier than poker ... I'm going to disagree. Especially for someone (OP) who is admitting to having a hard time.
/r/seduction10/04/15 12:08 AM
2

Maybe she just wanted a ONS? Or maybe you moved too fast and she feels like a slut? Or maybe as she got to know you she discovered your personality was not a match for hers? The list could be anything. You would have to really think about each encounter and try to figure out if you said or did something, or didn't do something, that made her lose interest. It can be difficult, but I always assumed I did something wrong. That drove me to improve myself and my social skills, and then I'd try again…
/r/seduction09/04/15 07:42 PM
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Human communication is something like 90% non-verbal. When you communicate online (text, email, phone, etc) you are at a 90% disadvantage. So, no, it's not just you. Therefore, your goal should be to use technology to get a phone number as fast as possible (at least verbal helps) and then meet in person as fast as possible after that.
/r/seduction09/04/15 07:23 PM
1

You may want to try washing with hot water and an exfoliating scrub, once in the morning, and once before bed. Also avoid touching your face during the day, and change your pillow case frequently.
/r/seduction09/04/15 07:16 PM
1

Your fear of getting cheated on is likely tied to low self-confidence and low self-worth, among other issues. If you work on feeling better about yourself, you'll also appear more attractive to women. The confidence will result in women being less turned-off by your needy and desperate behaviors. So, in a sense, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy right now. You act unattractive, so you know you'll be unattractive. All you have to do is fix it. Read some of the books/links in the sidebar and get to …
/r/seduction09/04/15 04:24 PM
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it's because I'm interested in someone else There is more to this that you should really be aware of. Many women will do this, which means you are their second choice. You're the backup. Don't sit around waiting on women like this. She's not interested in you. The tip off is when a woman says something like "Ask me later and I'll let you know". For me, that's an instant bail out. She's trying to see if guy #1 is going to invite her out, and if not, you and your wallet and her backup plans. I've …
/r/seduction09/04/15 12:20 PM
2

Yeah, exactly. (I should have clarified that, my bad.)
/r/seduction08/04/15 07:55 PM
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That seems passive aggressive to me. It's also a little desperate, in my opinion. Remember - If she's interested in you, she'll reply quickly and frequently. There's no need to keep messaging her. Be mysterious, have a life, and don't worry about her.
/r/seduction08/04/15 06:23 PM
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It's like tennis - you send the ball to her, and wait for her to return (reply). If she doesn't, then you need to find someone who knows how to play ball. If she doesn't reply, she's probably not interested or you haven't given her anything to reply to, such as an offer to go out on a date. Personally, I only use texting to set up venues. "Hey, do you want to come over Sunday for Mimosas? 9am?" "Hey, I'm going out for drinks Wed at 8, wanna join?" If she doesn't reply, invite someone else. If sh…
/r/seduction08/04/15 03:19 PM
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The results were very surprising to me the first time I tried this. I found the more attractive the woman, the more likely she was friendly, and open to teasing and light flirting. It gave me quite a boost in energy and enthusiasm, and my social skills were on par. Average looking women were often less so, and were unhappy, and you could feel it. I also felt dragged down. After doing this, I realized more attractive women are often nicer women too, and I raised my standards to avoid women who ap…
/r/seduction08/04/15 12:33 PM
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Go to the mall, an upscale one if you can, and go into every store. Talk to the hottest employee there and ask her advice on a gift for your friend/mother/sister. Tease her about anything she suggests, then tell her you will think about it. Then leave and go to the next store. Repeat. By the end of the day, it'll be nothing to approach.
/r/seduction08/04/15 12:44 AM
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What EXACTLY happened? Maybe she wanted you to ask her on a date, not to "hang out" like friends.
/r/seduction05/04/15 02:31 PM
1

paid for the burial of the killed guy, [...] and agreed to pay a big pile of money to the dead guy's family. And fines to the city/state too I presume. Most US drunk driving laws are designed to encourage DUI behavior. They rake in as much cash as possible for the police and courts by allowing multiple convictions with little more than a slap on the wrist after large fines are paid. I've heard multiple stories of someone killing an innocent person after already having 10, 20, or 30+ DUI convicti…
/r/PussyPass04/04/15 09:46 PM
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I will respectfully disagree. I met my ex-wife in college. Take your time and date many people, have high standards, and meet the best quality person you can find.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/03/15 04:24 PM
1

I did, but I really wanted him to tell me if it helped him or not! I didn't care about it that much. :)
/r/MarriedRedPill14/11/14 09:22 PM
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What is this fear mongering bullshit? No, not all women are like that.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/14 02:06 PM
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Like I said the last time you posted this, I think you would be wise to analyze the marriage and determine if it's worth saving from the start. And cheating is not alpha, it's sociopathic in the current state of divorce laws. That's how you lose everything to the court system.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/11/14 01:15 PM
0

Apparently being able to juggle kitchen knives also works. At least it did for me a long time ago at a party.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 07:47 PM
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You probably can't save him. If you must try, buy him the book No More Mr Nice Guy ... right now ... and give it to him as a gift. Tell him it'll help him be a better husband. And it will be, but probably to a different woman.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 04:44 PM
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Simple - besides having a decent body, a well paying job and you're not suffering from a medical condition, what else do you have to offer a woman? Are you exciting? Do you have good social skills? Are you good in bed? Clean, well dressed? What exactly have you done to improve yourself in other aspects of your life? Just because you have a car and money doesn't mean you're interesting to be with. All you have to do is read some of the books in the sidebar, get out and practice your skills, and l…
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 04:42 PM
1

If he wants more sex, he'll read it. It starts out very well and should capture his attention. Tell him to check it out for his benefit. (And yours, but he doesn't need to know that.)
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/14 04:26 PM
1

I get around this by putting a small amount of money into my wife's checking account each payday, and with that money she can buy whatever she wants. Even though you've solved this problem, you can prevent future things like this by setting up a joint account that is "hers" and just DD $25 or $50 each payday into it.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/11/14 04:11 PM
1

This is a good movie, except for the ending where he starts slipping up. It one was of the first movies I ever watched that made me realize you can improve yourself and be a better person, and also be more attractive to women.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/14 02:22 PM
1

I understand and agree. My personal opinion was that she was making me look like a fool, and that really did not please me. Probably because my ex did flirt and did cheat, so I was looking to prevent it from starting in the first place. Sounds like you have a keeper, congrats!
/r/MarriedRedPill06/11/14 07:39 PM
1

I agree with you. That shit was written by women for women.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 06:33 PM
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You gain nothing by rewarding her with your kiss-ass behavior of getting back together with her. You instead risk getting stuck in previous BP behaviors and that whole world. You gain everything by being seen with a woman much younger and hotter than her, and moving on with your life, and practicing being the new you.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 06:31 PM
1

Sure you can. And why wouldn't you if she was clearly making it appear she was going to start fucking other guys? Are you falling for her dread game here? And yes, there are other options, but I prefer to cut to the chase. I speak my mind and that's it. I don't want a wife who is going to start fucking strangers at parties, and I won't stay married to one that does. I demand more.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/11/14 06:14 PM
1

I don't think so. Some of the concepts are sufficiently complex that I had to go back and re-read them two or three times before it made sense.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/11/14 03:51 PM
2

It's all in your head. Lots of guys have this problem. I am in my 40's and people think I am late 20's or early 30's. It's a good problem to have when younger women are into you.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 03:42 PM
2

Simply put there are two ways to handle this: You can flirt with other women, and I mean really flirt. Maybe even disappear with one of these women. Make your wife wonder where the hell you went. With any luck, she'll realize what is going on if you do it properly. Of course, it may turn into a shit storm if you don't know how to handle it, or if you say "You were flirting with him" etc. You can walk up to her, quietly take her aside, and calmly & politely tell her that she is flirting with this…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/11/14 03:32 PM
1

Yes, it really is. I didn't like the last chapter (about yoga or whatever it was), but everything else was really complex and subtle sometimes. It wasn't an easy read, that's for sure.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/11/14 03:15 PM
2

You may want to read The Way of the Superior Man. It helped me a lot. As far as working out, you can get used gym equipment for cheap on Craigslist if you keep an eye out, but I found it was a bit too much clutter. For $10/mo you can join a local gym, just keep an eye out for their specials around the holidays (like Thanksgiving).
/r/MarriedRedPill06/11/14 03:05 PM
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This is another vote for the book No More Mr Nice Guy. It was life-shattering. I am just starting to read The Married Man Sex Life Primer 2011 and it is also a great read. I can't imagine giving those books to your husband and him getting turned off if you tell him they are for his self improvement, because they really are.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/11/14 03:02 PM
0

I agree with you, but it has to be applied appropriately to each individual marriage. If you're not getting laid, and your marriage sucks, then go all out, up to divorce (and I recommend that if the woman is crap). But if things are good, you don't need to go nuclear on your wife, you just need to do a more "maintenance" level of dread - keep that seed planted in her mind.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/14 01:11 PM
2

The best lesson I ever learned (at your stage) was to not spend more than 15 minutes trying to get together with a woman. If she wasn't into me, it just meant I was doing something wrong, so I thought about my failed approach, found another woman, revised my approach, and tried again. 2-3 months with no results? Way too long. You should be working on 2-3 women at once, not one woman at a time. Your way would mean you could only date around 4-5 women a year, RP you could be meeting and disqualify…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 02:31 PM
2

Date to disqualify. You are the prize. Say hi to everyone (dealing with approach anxiety).
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 02:25 PM
3

See the sidebar? How many of those books have you purchased and read?
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 02:19 PM
7

What an ugly thing to say... does this mean we're not friends anymore? You know, if I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 02:15 PM
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Your woman is a reflection of yourself. I believe she is a reflection of your RP skills (or lack thereof). If you married her when you were BP, you may later realize she's a low quality woman. (My ex-wife was exactly that.) You can disagree, but after I learned what I know now, I would not have even gone on a first DATE with her. If you feel like you married the wrong woman, your first mistake was getting married to to any woman period, but your second mistake was slipping your dominance. Any wo…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 01:36 PM
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That's exactly what you want her thinking. That's how dread game is supposed to work. I disagree in the context of marriage. (If you're just dating, then oh yeah, 100% agreed.) In my opinion, dread game isn't supposed to make her think you ARE cheating or ARE going to divorce her, those are impending doom situations and will cause most people to shut down and prepare for a disaster. And that just spirals out of control. Proper dread game, in a marriage and in my opinion, should be more subtle. I…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 01:27 PM
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It was my pleasure. Hopefully the OP can reflect on this and perhaps revise it to be more sensible, and understand it from a different perspective. Also, why are you trying to pick up chicks around your girl - I mean socializing with them and improving your own skills is good - but to go that far isn't cool, and more petty than anything. Two reasons: Babysitters are few and far between, and hard to keep around. (We have two young kids.) If we have one that lasts more than 6 months it's a miracle…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 01:18 PM
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Sorry, I don't have a source for it, as the article I read was probably 10-15 years ago. However, Google has lots of hits which are probably related. Problem with asking if she's happy is when she says yes and acts no. Actions always speak louder than words, in my experience.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/11/14 01:05 PM
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I never wanted kids until I started dating my wife. On our first date I knew she'd be an amazing mother. Now we have two kids, all is well so far. She and I both agree our kids are being taught red pill theory. My book collection is even in my will with specific directions to be given to my son!
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 03:21 AM
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It depends on what it is. Care to give some details?
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 03:19 AM
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Here's my take on it. I think you have some good points, some out of order points, and some points that go too far. Dread Level 1: Learn to recognize and start passing Shit Tests. Begin building a strong, indefatigable frame. Read the sidebar on The Red Pill, Married Man's Sex Life, No More Mr. Nice Guy, and the Book of Pook. Agreed. Dread Level 2: Develop an action plan to improve the major areas of your life. Develop the physical, spiritual, psychological, financial and personal areas of your …
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 03:07 AM
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I'll be blunt - women who are unhappy gain weight in relationships, and research proves it. That means her weight gain is possibly (but not always!) an indicator of how happy you make her feel, or the quality of your relationship, or an indicator that she is unhappy about something (and that issue may be something you need to find out). If you nag her about her weight, or do other stuff like try to "eat healthy" which is really a ruse to make her eat healthy, then she sees through this because y…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/11/14 11:08 PM
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Is that the best you can get? Would the alpha male lower his standards to have to deal with a woman, and her kids, and possibly the father as well? Babysitters? Sick kids? Cancelled plans? Do you know how busy parents are with kids? You're never going to be #1 in her book, so you're automatically beta. Dude, raise your standards. Just asking if you should go for it says you know it's not worth it.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 02:12 PM
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Pick the right woman. If you marry a woman who is a child herself, expect problems. And divorce. If you marry a woman who enjoys the idea of a family life, and can handle the associated responsibilities with ease, and still maintain a healthy relationship with you, you're golden.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 03:26 PM
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It's when you can tell the outcome is designed to further your own agenda - your own cause.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 03:07 PM
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If you have to do this, you've married the wrong woman.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 02:30 PM
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This is exactly how I felt, thanks for posting this in such a clear manner.
/r/trpGAME31/10/14 11:59 AM
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You have to be single, and act it, and you have to raise your standards for the women you want to date. If you are not single, or act like you're stuck on some chick you cannot get, other women won't be into you - they'll sense it. Be single by choice. Then make a list of what you want, and then date to disqualify until you meet a woman that hits all those standards. When I first started out, my list was something like "cute, has tits and pussy, and will fuck me." Maybe not even that. After I wi…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 06:11 PM
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Scott Adams is a fucking genius. Amazing article as usual.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 05:51 PM
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I've always felt asking them out on the standard movie, Fail - you cannot talk to them. 'grab a drink', Alcohol? This is my #1 go-to date. It can be under $20, forces you to talk to her, and by her accepting alcohol on the date means she is willing to risk getting tipsy and doing something sexual with you. Plus, if the date is going badly, you finish your drink and end the date. It's a win-win. I also always go to a nice bar, but not one where she or I know anyone, and is not too busy (read:quie…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 01:29 PM
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Because they get hit on by male customers, further validating their egos.
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 01:15 PM
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As long as you're not talking shit about your previous plates, potentially ruining their reputations, you should be fine. Agree with it and go with it.
/r/trpGAME30/10/14 12:37 PM
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Try reading it again perhaps? I have found that reading a book a second time often allows me to "read between the lines", so to speak, since I'm familiar with the main content, so new sub-content is more apparent. It's often like a whole new book!
/r/MarriedRedPill29/10/14 07:51 PM
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I try not to act angry, but when I am in a bad mood it's easy to tell. I'm not talkative, want to be left alone, etc. My wife usually tries to find out why, or makes me a drink!
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 07:49 PM
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If you waited more than 15 minutes ... you failed.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 05:21 PM
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Have you read No More Mr Nice Guy? If not, it may be able to offer some insight on your anger in these situations. One of the most attractive things you can do is to maintain your self-control in difficult situations, and think about what is the best outcome. And sometimes, it's not what you want. Sometimes you will be wrong, and accepting that you are wrong is strength. It's okay to give a little from time to time. Being married doesn't make you a dictator, so stop trying to be in control all t…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/10/14 04:56 PM
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You're welcome. I was thinking about this and wanted to also mention that people can master any skill, and you may want to read this article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/danschawbel/2013/05/30/josh-kaufman-it-takes-20-hours-not-10000-hours-to-learn-a-skill/ The consensus is that anything can be learned in 10,000 hours, but it only takes 20 to get started.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 04:05 PM
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Yes, but I don't know what. All I can tell you is when I am in a bad mood, my wife goes out of her way to try to please me and cheer me up. I'm sure you can imagine how.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 03:23 PM
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Same here, lots of cheating GF's but only one divorce. This picture was what actually made me realize I was to blame: http://demotivators.despair.com/demotivational/dysfunctiondemotivator.jpg
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 05:41 PM
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Classic Doc Love advice. I've been using it for a long time and it works wonders.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 05:35 PM
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I might stick a ring on that bitch No, absolutely not. She cheated on you once, why would you reward her and APPROVE of that behavior? So she can cheat on you and take half your shit? If you have to, get a fucking prenup and make sure she gets NOTHING.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 05:34 PM
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You handled this just fine. My rule is to wait 15 minutes for someone, anyone, including women, and then I leave. Assuming you are interested in someone, if you do that I bet they don't do it again.
/r/trpGAME28/10/14 05:30 PM
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By reading the sidebar and doing anything to improve yourself! The level of cringe in that video is way too high.
/r/trpGAME28/10/14 05:19 PM
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My point is that all any guy has to do is be 5% better than the average guys. All of those guys are so average! It doesn't take much to realize that you get nowhere if you say the same thing to a woman that she has already heard 50 times today.
/r/trpGAME28/10/14 05:16 PM
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Anyone who spends most of their life trying to trick women is unbalanced in other areas of their life. This. The inherent desperation and blatant dishonesty is absolutely self-destructive. You know you're lying, you know you have to perform this "act" all the time, and you know you're not yourself. Women can smell honesty, and they'll figure you out in no time at all.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 04:53 PM
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Thankfully not. I've had oneitus before, and it was horrible. I finally learned my lesson after pining for several women for years (one was 7 years!) and getting nothing. My wife is great and all, but that doesn't mean she can get away with anything she wants. She's not on a pedestal, in fact I'm the one on the pedestal in our relationship.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/10/14 04:49 PM
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You're trying to impress her, and that failed. Next time, make HER impress YOU. After all, you are the prize, right? Build rapport first, a connection! Don't just throw lame jokes/lines at her. Once you feel a connection, then ask her for her number.
/r/trpGAME28/10/14 03:29 PM
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Yeah, but it shows the typical/average mindset of so many guys. They are clueless, throwing so-called compliments her way but not understanding they just come across as pigs to her. Not one of them actually engaged her. Albeit, the video would have prevented her from doing that (in theory), it seems doubtful any guy could even get a response out of any woman with those "lines".
/r/trpGAME28/10/14 03:26 PM
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I knew we were having kids. It was not just a good feeling, it was a this will happen moment. This is exactly how I felt in the first date with my current wife. Something just clicked. I had never felt like this with any of the other women I had dated.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/10/14 03:24 PM
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You cannot find an HOUR to go on a date?
/r/trpGAME28/10/14 01:18 PM
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My luck was only comprised of reading a lot of books, remembering "I am the prize", going out and practicing skills, going on a lot of crappy dates (but Doc Love saved me a lot of hassle with his "cheap date" philosophy), and making women qualify themselves to me. It was an interesting point in my life when I realized I'd talk to a woman and be able to decide within 5 minutes if I even wanted to ask her on a date. I got picky, and it worked well for me. I found reading books twice helped the mos…
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 09:18 PM
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I dunno, based on his one word replies to me, I think he's got bigger problems to deal with!
/r/trpGAME27/10/14 04:45 PM
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As a guy who makes decent money (but not like that guy) I quickly learned that telling a woman how much money you made was a major mistake. This guy did everything right and avoided a shitty woman who would just try to blow all his money and ignore him.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/10/14 04:43 PM
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Thing is, I am no threat to him, why the insecurity? My cousin is a great looking guy, and he confided to me that he hates the women who hit on him. At first it was awesome, but pretty soon it's all the same shit. All the same lines. And they all just want to get laid, and he started feeling like a piece of meat, and started realizing he may have a hard time finding a "quality" woman. You may be less attractive than he is, but that may be your advantage in terms of an LTR. He's insecure ... beca…
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 10:40 PM
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Read the books in the sidebar. Seriously.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 10:25 PM
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DUDE. I knew a guy like this in college. Fucking hated him. Good looking, musician, great with the ladies, and would insult me in front of them. He was great looking, modeled, maybe 8-9/10? I was tall, thin, geek, no style/class, maybe 5-6/10. I finally got sick and tired of it and worked my hardest to be able to refute his bs comments in front of women. His rudeness is his weakness, and you can use it to your advantage in front of people. You simply call him out. Being rude to you shows he is t…
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 09:50 PM
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I think you're good here. Tease her about not giving you ebola and making her wait 21 days, let her reply and panic a little, then suggest Wed or Thurs night. (FYI - I recommend avoiding Fri and Sat night for first dates - first dates should be Sun - Thurs.)
/r/trpGAME26/10/14 04:30 PM
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When I was in my mid 20's I was dating college chicks. When I was in my mid 30's I was dating college chicks. Then I got married. Now in my mid 40's my wife and I are dating college chicks. As I get older, thus far, women seem to find me more attractive. And I'm not ripped.
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 03:50 PM
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Except for the hooker part, he's absolutely right. I felt the EXACT same way you did, and in fact I gave up on women over a decade ago. I swore to be single for the rest of my life. I stopped dating (5 years of meeting shit women). Not 15 minutes later I met my now wife. She was unlike any other woman I had ever met, passed all my criteria and all my shit tests (yes, MY shit tests, if a woman is testing you in an LTR you're doing it wrong - YOU'RE the prize, not her). Now she's not perfect, and …
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 03:47 PM
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Exactly, what did she do for the guys who paid for her to get in? No thanks, no dance, no conversation?
/r/TheRedPill26/10/14 03:11 PM
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I'm being serious - did she reply and agree?
/r/trpGAME25/10/14 03:43 PM
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She told me she wasnt ready for something else yet Bullshit. She's not ready for something else with YOU. If Mr. Wonderful, perfect, god-like male came along, she'll jump on his cock so fast your head will spin. I've seen it over and over. She's making an excuse. If you were her ideal, perfect, or otherwise had her hooked on you, she wouldn't risk saying something that might make you dump her. Seeing as how she just did, she's expecting you to dump her. Tell her she can be a fuck buddy or next h…
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 02:42 PM
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The question no one has asked: Texted 3 days later because I had been busy, and set something up for the next day. Did she reply and agree?
/r/trpGAME25/10/14 01:45 PM
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As long as she knows you're teasing and/or flirting, it's all good!
/r/MarriedRedPill25/10/14 01:42 PM
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Yeah, it is some old advice I learned from Doc Love and his stuff. He really explains it far better than I can, but I'll give credit where it's due - he knows his stuff. However, it is really on;y for LTR stuff, not plates, but still has some interesting concepts. Good luck! Keep us updated!
/r/trpGAME24/10/14 09:40 PM
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Yeah, I know, it does seem a bit long. It does a few things though - most importantly it shows you are not desperate like so many other guys who text right away. You have a life, are not in a hurry, and are high quality because it's her loss if she can't be patient. If you made a good impression, she'll remember you and assume you were busy. If she doesn't remember you, that is a sign you made a poor impression. I've made women wait up to TEN days and still had great dates. One woman apparently …
/r/trpGAME24/10/14 03:45 PM
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You're welcome. One more thing - when I do cook, I usually make sure I make something amazing that she can't or won't make. I'll cook an entire filet mignon on the BBQ, recently I made chicken piccata, home made pasta dishes, and stuff like that. Basically, I make something that shows her how amazing I am, and in a way I like to think it keeps her on her toes when I ask for her to make something in return.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/10/14 02:31 PM
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You're not going to believe this, but a friend of mine did a study on about 50 women he met, and found 4-5 days was the magic number in terms of (a) getting the first date and (b) getting a follow up date. He had an excel spreadsheet and everything, it was beautiful.
/r/trpGAME24/10/14 02:28 PM
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Texting should be used only for making arrangements. You can send one line that says "Hey, it's Tom, how are you?" and when she replies ask her if she wants to go on a date. Name the day, time, and place, keep it simple, and use the word "date" so she knows your intentions. TIP: Keep it simple, No dinners, movies, parties, clubs, etc. My best dates were under $20, and usually were just for drinks, or at a bakery getting a sweet treat, a smoothie at the waterfront, etc. The point of the date shou…
/r/trpGAME24/10/14 02:12 PM
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You can't do better? And she didn't even contact you? And she's overseas? Next.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 10:56 PM
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Why should I stay loyal to someone who is inherently incapable of loyalty? So you're saying she IS going to cheat on you? I think you are making excuses here. I've been with my wife for over 10 years and she simply would never do that. She's an 8/10 IMO, and I'm a solid 6/7. But I am RP, and she knows it. Many women who are happy with their man have zero desire to cheat. What it sounds like to me is that you want to sleep around. You want a more wild sex life. And that's ok if you pick the right…
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 08:36 PM
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Yes! If a woman calls me an asshole, I agree and say something like "I'm glad you noticed" or "Hey, you're smarter than you look" with a "knowing" smile/look (that indicates I am teasing her - god forbid you make her think you're serous, especially in wife country!) . They eat it up every single time. Crazy.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/10/14 08:26 PM
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You're welcome. i do help out a lot around the house.... I find that helping out a lot is detrimental to the quality of your relationship. In fact, there have been studies that show women are attracted to men who help out less around the house. (Google is your friend.) I feel it is effeminate and makes you lower value in her eyes. Men do men things, women do women things. If you do women things, you appear more feminine to her. That's a mistake. I help my wife out around the house to a very limi…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/10/14 08:03 PM
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I'm tired of hearing women spout their tired and debunked ideas on dates. I honestly hate talking about gender politics in general, especially on dates. Frankly, if a woman brings up an unpleasant topic on a date, I take it as a red flag assuming I am looking for an LTR. Other concepts: If she talks about her ex boyfriend, pulls out her phone, tries to order something expensive, hits on the waiter or someone else at the venue, or any number of other BS moves, I end the date. Have some standards,…
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 07:49 PM
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Any time I've seen a woman out and about and she has two guys with her, I think "Smart woman, dumb guys." When I see a guy with two women, I think "Smart guy." Basically, in both cases, the single person is giving 50% or less of their energy/time to each of the two or more admirers. In return, those admirers are each giving her/him 100% of their energy as they compete for him/her. So, a woman with lots of male friends? Smart woman, getting lots of attention and giving little to nothing in return…
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 05:01 PM
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People who think asshole is right are missing the point. It's about honesty and communicating what you want, as opposed to avoiding conflict or supplicating to your woman. Women don't like an asshole in terms of how we men think of it ... an asshole is a fucking jerk, who says rude shit, and pisses you off. Women have a different definition, and this is crucial to understand - it's a guy who says what he wants, knows what he wants, and gets what he wants, but also makes a woman feel while he doe…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/10/14 02:28 PM
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You're welcome. Please do take it slowly and start small. It lays a foundation for success, and allows you to learn your skills on easy things first.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/10/14 02:24 PM
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Me: Married 10 years, 2 kids, I'm 45 and she is 32 and SAHM. Here's my take, I have some questions: So today she calls up and tells me she was going to buy 2 water coolers - I tell her not to because we have several at home., hang up everything is fine. How much did these cost, and what is the reason why she wanted them? When I get home I see the coolers and I'm like, why did you buy them...... What did she say? She starts rambling that she is sick and tired of me controlling her spending , whic…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/10/14 01:36 PM
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No bullshit. Not one single woman went back to her ex. If she tries to blame you, just tell her that it obviously wasn't working or she never would have gotten together with you. And then shrug. She made the decision, you are not forcing her. Besides, it's better she was single than a cheater.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 09:41 PM
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Humor/amused mastery/walking out are the ways you deal with it This, so much this. When I want my wife to improve on something, I tease her about it, I poke fun at her, I make jokes about how lame she is. She knows it is all in good fun. In the end, she usually does what I want and she gets turned on. I mean, we had an argument about using too many Tupperware containers a few weeks ago (of all things, I know!), and I teased her about it. Told her she'd come join me on the dark side, how she was …
/r/MarriedRedPill22/10/14 08:29 PM
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In situations like this I have simply told the women to dump their so-called boyfriend. Amazingly this has worked almost every time, and they have no guilt. FWIW, I think LDR's are "imaginary" relationships that allow people to think/say they are in a relationship when they really are not. Grow up and date someone who lives within 15 minutes of you and enjoy life.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 06:14 PM
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I don't think hardships make a difference one way or the other. I think exposure to a mentor or relevant educational materials make a difference. All my life I thought I was a tall, skinny, loser. It turns out that I am a tall, skinny, great guy, but only because I changed my attitude through a mentor, a lot of reading, and a LOT of trial and error.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 06:08 PM
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I thought of this immediately. lol
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 04:32 PM
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It applies zero techniques or social technology for getting through the girl you want. You're correct, in my opinion. However, it is a good technique to understand for guys just starting out, and may be better served by passing on a woman and trying with someone easier to start with.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 03:40 PM
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I agree with you 100%, my only point is that he needs to learn more about RP and properly handling situations like this, and probably start with just one thing for now. Instead, he's going overboard, and tackling multiple issues at once, and - unless I am mistaken - he has barely started reading about RP a week ago. He has no clue what he is doing or how to do it properly. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing". He doesn't know what he is doing. It's going to blow up in his face.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/10/14 03:39 PM
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The take-away should be to not t marry your highschool sweetheart. My wife is the complete opposite of the spectrum from that crazy bitch.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 03:24 PM
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If you are one week into RP, I think you need to slow down. I think your attempt at getting into her locked computer was childish, and you are not ready to move forward at this point. Put down her mouse (yes, her) and pick up the books. You need to spend, in my opinion, THREE MONTHS just reading books and RP and whatever else you can find, and practicing it in your mind and on VERY low priority issues. Like how you load the dishwasher, or shit like that, and you need to TEASE her and FLIRT with …
/r/MarriedRedPill22/10/14 02:42 PM
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Good to hear. Have you read No More Mr. Nice Guy (sidebar reading)? If not, you need to add it to your list. It specifically addresses this: My old blue pill habit was always to "keep the peace". I'd either back down from arguments, or I'd escalate them - both, apparently, the wrong thing to do, when your argument is about something completely ridiculous.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/10/14 02:14 PM
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You're welcome. Keep us updated.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/10/14 01:29 PM
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If I can recommend two books, start with No More Mr. Nice Guy and The Married Man Sex Life Primer 2011. Those were both very helpful for me.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/10/14 12:48 PM
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Google Doc Love, this is a revision of his advice on asking women out. When he explains it fully you'll understand it's actually some of the best advice out there. It saves you wasted time and headache dealing with women who are not interested.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 12:43 PM
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Hey, you gotta start somewhere.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 12:39 PM
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I find that women are far more likely to make an excuse than say yes and not follow through. They don't want to "hurt your feelings". This, of course, depends on how beta you appear.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 12:38 PM
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Yup, this is Doc Love 101 advice. Great stuff for beginners.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/14 12:37 PM
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When I first started dating my (now) wife, she was 21, and we went to a bar. She got drunk, as did I, and she started to flirt with some other guys who were there. At first it was just us talking to these guys, then it was her getting a little too touchy-feely with them. I was not happy. My solution: I quietly took her aside and told her something along the lines of this: Honey, I like you a lot, and I am not trying to tell you who you can or cannot talk to, but I am telling you that you are mak…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/10/14 12:25 AM
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I think you missed his point ...
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 03:17 PM
3

All because I had these experiences with these slags, and it makes you appreciate and realize what NOT to look for in a partner. Exactly. So much truth here.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 03:15 PM
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That was a bad example, I should have picked something else. The point is to think about what she is saying, and if it's disparaging it might just be a shit test.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 02:06 PM
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Yeah, this is a great explanation. Your example is very good, thanks.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 01:48 PM
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Don't get too stuck on the semantics or my example, just remember the lesson. When a woman says something that seems discouraging to you, challenge it.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/14 01:46 PM
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Houston, we have a problem here. This was NOT a success at all. You are NOT handling this very well, and you have only tried to paint a vague and rosy picture of you being in charge for showing off to your public (us). For example, this is vague: "If you want to be on time, then you need to do X." What is X? This is CRITICAL to analyze what happened. For all we know she's saying you need to stop masturbating and get out of bed. Then you give a rosy picture of you being in charge: So I tell her (…
/r/MarriedRedPill21/10/14 01:36 PM
1

Check out David DeAngelo and his Double Your Dating book, or his Interview with Dating Gurus CDs. He helped me figure this out.
/r/trpGAME21/10/14 12:06 PM
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Yup, this is the truth. Friendzone is like being in a relationship with your mother. All the love, caring, doing things for her, but zero sex. That is why women all think BP guys are so great - it's like having a little child around, but it would be horrific to have a sexual relationship with a "child" like that.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 08:46 PM
1

I'm surprised no one mentioned ... if you are not able to get an erection, you may have a heart condition. See a doctor.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 01:23 PM
1

Simple - I delete her number and move to the next number on my list. Flake = gone. Why even think about it? If she can't see the value in being with me then it's her loss.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 01:44 AM
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I'm married, and good with it, but my wife is bi and likes to bring women home ... I don't have any problems with that.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 01:41 AM
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My thoughts? Maybe it's just me, but the majority of the time I see a post from r/relationships, it's a younger guy with an older woman and he's wondering why everything is going to shit. Hey, dumbass, it's because you're with a woman who you are treating like your mother, and it doesn't work that way. /rant
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 01:38 AM
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literature, game Please post some of your resources!
/r/TheRedPill19/10/14 01:32 PM
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I agree with you entirely. He absolutely should go out and date someone else. But can he do it? He may not actually want to or be able to line up a date so quickly. My perspective was more along the lines of "fake it until you make it".
/r/TheRedPill19/10/14 01:13 PM
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Building zero rapport and asking for a number generally is the worst thing you can do. Imagine some creepy gay guy bumping into you, then asking you for your number an hour later. What would you think he was after? How would you feel? Wouldn't you think he was desperate and had no social skills?
/r/trpGAME19/10/14 12:41 PM
1

Dead link. It says "You have reached the viewing limit for this book."
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 05:03 PM
1

This is so vague who can tell? All I can say is if you're not asking them out how the hell would you be able to tell? Are you waiting for them to be alpha and ask you out? Post some details of an example.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 04:46 PM
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Tell her "Sorry, I don't have time for this, I'm going on a date." This will blow her away, and she'll get completely upset and crazy. Keep ignoring her and watch her go through the various stages until she is begging to get you back. Bonus points if you actually do go on a date and someone can confirm and get it back to her. Treat her like she's nothing and you can do as well or better with any other woman.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 04:35 PM
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I have always liked David DeAngelo's concept best. It essentially says to treat women like they are your bratty little 9 year old sister. I'm going to butcher some examples here: If she told you to give her a ride somewhere, you'd say no. If she told you buy her something, you'd say no. If she threw a tantrum, you'd tell her to calm down. If she told you to clean the kitchen after she made a mess you'd say no and make her do it. However, you should also do it with care, love, and respect. You do…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 01:30 PM
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As a parent, I can tell you that one of the most effective ways of calming down my 2yo is to give him a hug. You can't talk him out of it. Words are useless. And it also works on my wife.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 01:28 PM
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It probably has a lot to do with where you live, the type of women, etc. The 6-7's around here know they have to work harder.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 01:25 PM
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They will make sure you’re having a bad time so they can “save you” and show you a much better time. I've never heard of men going out of their way to ruin nights to make their girl need them more, this point sounds more like some weird fantasy the author has. That reminds me of a scene from the movie Hitch, where Hitch is teaching some guy to steal and then pretend to save some girls dog or something like that. Pretty pathetic, IMO, but maybe that's where the author got the idea.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 01:24 PM
1

Hey, I click all links equally! Those thumbnails are too small to see any detail ...
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 11:05 PM
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I've seen people in long term marriages get divorced... not b/c of infidelity or money, but b/c they grew apart Did they have kids? I read an article here on Reddit (sorry, can't find it now) that basically pointed out if parents put their kids first and the marriage second ... after the kids grew up the parents no longer had a connection are were more likely to divorce. Solution: Kids come second, parents keep having date nights, sex, and so forth, and maintain a connection.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 06:49 PM
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Has anyone noticed almost all of the women in /r/gonewild have tattoos? I don't recall seeing many without tattoos. Not that I was looking ...
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 06:08 PM
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I've dated a few 8/9/10 chicks, and have found them to usually be shallow/boring/dead fucks/useless. They don't know how to do anything, or don't want to do anything. They want you to wait on them hand and foot, thinking their looks get them whatever they want. That gets old quick.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 03:45 PM
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Get drunk and screw.
/r/trpGAME17/10/14 12:41 PM
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Yup. You're doing good.
/r/trpGAME16/10/14 08:14 PM
2

She makes a comment about how its not a 'drinking glass'. You say "You're welcome."
/r/MarriedRedPill16/10/14 06:23 PM
1

Assuming it was a passionate kiss, and not a peck, I think you're doing just fine. Keep escalating of course.
/r/trpGAME16/10/14 04:59 PM
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What do you want to bet that she has been dropping hints (red flags) like crazy, and her BF hasn't got a clue? Typical BP guy, trying to make things work at all costs, and is driving her away. Now she finally realizes she has to dump him.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 04:23 PM
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Did you ask her out, and if so, did you explicitly use the word "date"? Did you escalate? Did you kiss her? My only point is that if she set this up, or you made it seem like a "friend" thing, and you have not made a move, then she is potentially sending a signal that this is "friends". You won't know unless you make a move. If you go out with her again, do the wine tasting. A woman who will risk getting drunk with you which could lead to sex means she is into you. If she won't drink with you, a…
/r/trpGAME16/10/14 03:11 PM
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Yeah, he's still around. I bought that book and it was great, then I loaned it to a friend of a friend who desperately needed it and I never saw it again. :/
/r/MarriedRedPill16/10/14 01:51 PM
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And what do you want to bet she called and said Hi, I have a 99.5 fever, am I okay to fly?" and not "Hi, I am Amber Vinson, the RN who had close and personal contact with ebola patient #1 in Dallas, who died, and I have a fever and want to fly, is it ok?" People amaze me, but this woman moreso. I hope her family gets ebola and she lives to realize her mistake.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 12:32 PM
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I'm happy to help. One thing to keep in mind when you are starting out ... women who are taken will treat you like you are automatically in the friendzone. You will be learning backwards lessons with these women. Everything they do is tainted with "friend". You may as well be trying to hit on your mom, it most likely isn't going to happen. (For the record, once you get skilled, you can easily pick up on taken women, but wait until you know what you are doing!) Among the first things you should d…
/r/trpGAME16/10/14 12:08 PM
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I know two guys who did it. Java programmer. He makes custom websites/software for businesses, and then sells it to similar businesses. Stuff like office management software for small doctors offices. Subscription based, adds new features, etc. Guy who renovates and flips houses. Makes $50k - $100k or more on each house, every 3-6 months. Neither of them own big fancy cars or houses, and travel all the time.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 01:40 AM
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Similar situation happened to me. 4-5 girls at a table. I walked over, said "Hi, I notice you've been looking at me. My name is JJ, what's your name?" She said she wasn't looking at me. I said "I must have been mistaken, bye." and walked back to my table. Not 3 minutes later she came over to me and say down and we went from there. In your case, you walk over, say "Hey, I'm [name], what's your name?" She should give it. Then make an artificial time limit. "Hey, my bus is going to be along soon, b…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 01:34 AM
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I'm mind 40's with 2 kids under 3 years old. You don't need to do anything, your sperm will work just fine.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 01:12 AM
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Ten years ago I got a glimpse of red pill - in books. They were cheesy books, things like "Sleep with hot women" or whatever, but they were somewhat on track.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 01:05 AM
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I was him (almost, not a virgin but still an idiot) when I was 32 and my friend took me out every week, several times a week, to a bar, and he picked up chicks. I told him he was doing it all wrong, but he was getting laid repeatedly. I finally started to think what I was doing was wrong. He then bought me Doc Love's "The System" book. I made me realize there was advice out there that could help me, and I read tons of stuff, and now here I am.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 12:26 AM
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Holy shit. This advice is about the exact opposite of what actually works. The guys that will follow this will only end up confused, frustrated, and alone. Yeah, to any RP's benefit. Hopefully without a shootup.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/14 12:21 AM
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I'm going to plug Doc Love - he says the #1 rule for women is to never date a woman who is not clinically sane. And he's right.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/10/14 11:51 PM
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What do you think I should do now, keep complimenting her to let her know I'm attracted to her? NO! Both are major fails. So what if she's pretty? So what if you like her? That's not attractive, it's desperate. You have to BUILD attraction, and you do it with actions not words. What else does she have going for her? How can SHE prove herself worthy of YOU? You have to take her on a date and subtly make it clear that you are so high quality that you don't date any old chick just because she smile…
/r/trpGAME15/10/14 10:32 PM
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Got her # from a friend Saturday Mistake #1. You should have asked her for her number directly (assuming you could, and I would like to assume that is always possible). and we went to go eat Monday. Mistake #2. You did not specify this was a date? Did you pay? After some talk she wanted a gym partner. Mistake #3. Do you think women go on dates and say to their GF's or themselves "Score! I just met the coolest gym partner!" and think it's a good thing? No, they do not. At the gym I wasn't being s…
/r/trpGAME15/10/14 10:28 PM
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I want to know what book he is reading. Any ideas?
/r/TheRedPill15/10/14 06:47 PM
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I think: She does have a boyfriend already but hasn't mentioned him to me personally you are wasting your time if you have not fucked her already. Inviting a girl to the gym isn't a date, how are you going to score? That is a "friend" activity, and thus friendzone. You're doing it wrong. If you're into her, make it clear. Ask her out on a date. If she makes an excuse then you know she is not interested in anything other than wasting your time.
/r/trpGAME15/10/14 05:17 PM
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I [...] go spend the weekend with this other girl. If I want to call in a total nuke strike, Sally has already posted on Facebook that she and I are going to the seminar, and is asking for someone to split a room with; and since no one else is going... I am pretty sure that would make her pop. What am I missing here? You are alluding to your wife that you're going to spend the weekend with Sally, probably cheat with Sally, and that is supposed to work in your favor? And your wife's power play is…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/10/14 05:11 PM
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I have found it can be a fun bar game.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 08:39 PM
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Good for you.
/r/trpGAME14/10/14 06:14 PM
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That is too much math for me.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 06:12 PM
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I've seen a few fives. Before that I would have agreed with you.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 06:12 PM
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Reply to him that you know everything, and ask him if he's ready to get his behaviors exposed to everyone he knows including his boss. But seriously, tell your wife she's on probation, and if she fucks up she is gone. No more deleting messages, because you can count them on the bill (go online and it will tell you how many she sent/received.) You can even enable "Detailed Billing" which will show you EVER SINGLE TIME she texts, and to/from who, but not the content.
/r/MarriedRedPill14/10/14 05:58 PM
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In the past, yes, but not so much any more. We don't play alone either. We have had some foursomes, full swap, but it's always a "package deal". Mostly it's threesomes with other women. She isn't really into other guys, but we are both into other women and we know it (and talk openly about it). Examples: We had small house parties and that usually ended up with a few of us in the bedroom. We had a tenant who made a move on my wife, and that turned into an ongoing sex thing as well. Hot little 20…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 05:35 PM
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How long will it be before I stop hating them? When you realize it's not them, it's you. Is it wrong to hate them? Yes, it's misguided. Your anger is misplaced. It's not that they are shitty women, it's that they recognize you are not quality. It means you are making mistakes. You should be angry at yourself for not recognizing the (probably) repeated mistakes you are making. I'm going to make some pretty wild assumptions here, please elaborate/correct me if you want. I'm fucking done sticking m…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 05:19 PM
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Yeah, don't worry about it. As I get older, women keep saying I get better looking. I used to freak out about grey hair, now I leave it.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 03:43 PM
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I'm in my 40's as well and have been pleasantly surprised to meet a few older women who are just as good looking as younger women, but are a lot more open to more adventurous and uninhibited sex. There is none of this BS trying to game them for sex, they want it and we both know it so it happens. The only difference between you and me is that my wife knows about my escapades, and I bring these women home and we enjoy our trysts together. I think you should consider working on being honest both t…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 03:29 PM
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Damn, she's a 1 in my book. There are some seriously desperate guys out there.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 03:07 PM
1

So ... what happened with this?
/r/trpGAME14/10/14 02:51 PM
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Man, I remember the day I went through the exact same thing. It only took me 4 years to get my act together.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 02:17 PM
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A long, long time ago my (now) wife showed me one of those magazine articles, and I laughed in her face. I said something like "That crap is written by some staff writer whose only goal is to get you to buy more magazines. You aren't falling for that crap, are you?" That was the end of that.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 01:47 PM
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Your situation is a lot like mine was, but both of us were spending on credit cards. That is no longer a problem, and here's what I did (in no particular order). Yes, she should be on board, and in fact I think you should give her access to all the data. One thing I always do is discuss financial plans with her. For example, I get a annual bonus, and we discus where the money goes. Then we sit on it for 30 days and if we still feel the same way, we execute the plan. She is always in the loop, al…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/10/14 06:19 PM
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Married RPer here. My take: The part about the less you spend on the wedding the more it's likely to last ties to the idea that some women just want the wedding. If she's satisfied with a cheap wedding, then it's the marriage she's interested in. I agree. It's like a cheap date. Do you pay for a $100 dinner on a first date? Fuck no, she has to earn that shit. First dates (for me) are always less than $20 - just drinks. If she doesn't want to go out for drinks, then she's not into me ... she is i…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/14 05:28 PM
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Assuming you and he (airplane guy) are not her first partners, why are you not also bothered by all the other men she fucked? The reason why she is good in bed is because of experience. It doesn't go both ways - a virgin who is a great fuck. So ... what do you want?
/r/TheRedPill13/10/14 05:17 PM
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First step. Read No More Mr. Nice Guy. As a married man with past problems with my wife, I can confirm - this book is a game changer.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/14 01:05 PM
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What about a woman who wants to bring home other women for both of you?
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 01:52 PM
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This is so, so true it's crazy. I used to own two Great Danes. They taught me a lot about not taking shit from big dogs, little dogs, and women. My dogs were well behaved and all that. I had a female neighbor with a German Shepard. he was great with me and my dogs, but it was out of control in her house and finally attacked her, she needed dozens of stitches. I tried to give her some advice, but noooo .... she knew what she was doing. She had the dog destroyed. :/
/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 10:19 PM
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My opinion is that sleeping with a woman who you know is taken is very blue pill. You're the sucker - here is a woman who has two men giving her attention. You're both kissing her ass, and giving it 100%, and she's only giving each of you 50% tops. Shit, it's probably more than two guys if she's willing to do this with you. She's probably fucking 3 of 4 guys, and you're getting 25% of her effort? How is that red pill? How does that make you high value? How does that make you alpha? You're the BP…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 10:14 PM
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In other news, in recent field activities, I went to a bar alone to practice my socializing skills with women. When I told them I was alone, either they were creeped out by my chances of being a rapist or really interested about why. I was a little scared by this thought came to me whilst sitting down by myself. I would suspect that what really happened was you said or did something majorly wrong. You need to go back and think about that encounter and what you did ... or perhaps didn't do. I've …
/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 12:19 PM
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I went to jail due to partying with under age girls when I was 21. It was NOT worth it. It cost me over $14k in legal fees and fines ... and that was 20+ years ago. Don't do it.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/14 11:56 PM
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You will never know unless you date her, and date to disqualify. She sounds like a golddigger to me.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/14 06:34 PM
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Same thing happened to a friend of mine in college. Super great marriage ... until the green card arrived. I learned from that lesson.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/14 06:33 PM
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Money problems are in your head. How much do you pay for rent, and what kind of place do you live in? If you are renting an apartment and paying (for example) $800/mo, move out to a nicer place and rent a room for the same amount of money. You will easily be in a nicer place, and probably won't cost you much more - perhaps even less - to be in a nicer area.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/14 05:58 PM
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I disagree. I took swing lessons for a few years, and had some very "close" moves. There were plenty of attractive women, and more often than not they'd be asking me to dance after seeing me dance with someone else. It was easy pickings. Maybe you needed more practice? (Just kidding!)
/r/TheRedPill05/10/14 05:35 PM
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We have every reason to continue to do so. If we start acting beta, women get bored and divorce comes soon after. Hence why the majority of divorces are initiated by women, not men.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/14 03:40 PM
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What very few guys tend to realize is how you appear compared to men around you. Very often when I go out, the other guys will be there wearing cargo shorts, dirty t-shirts, and flip flops, unshaven and unclean looking, and look like they just got done working in a trench. Then there are overweight, older, bald, or just ... other guys. In many cases, you can be one of the best looking guys in a social situation by just taking a little time to clean up and dress up a little compared to everyone e…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/14 09:30 PM
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Agreed. Although if you're doing everything else right, you shouldn't have to worry about her thinking you're just friends. I think the OP is doing everything else far from "right" ... and this technique can be magic in that situation. There is a lot more to this than just meets the eye, but I'm sure you understand all that.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/14 07:57 PM
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What is not being said here is that you have to act in a way that signals the women you are meeting are lower quality than you are, and they have to prove themselves to you. You must also learn to quickly disqualify women who do not react. This woman you are orbiting? Disqualify her because she won't have sex with you. Plain and simple. Every single minute you spend with her you are spending in beta land, being treated like a puppy. Take charge. Be honest and tell women you're just looking to ge…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 08:59 PM
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I never had a problem with that, but that's just me. "Hanging out" can be a kiss of death for some guys if they don't make it clear it's sexual. The word "date" does that. Also, inviting a girl to a drink implies she isn't getting the free meal, will likely be getting drunk, and will likely be getting laid. It is a super easy qualifier and prevents women from coming over and not doing anything because they think you're just friends. It has been incredibly successful for me, and women who are not…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 04:22 PM
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It's simple: Beta guys, and those guys get divorced. Alpha guys who run the show don't get divorced, and don't get crap from their women, and they also don't complain about it which is why you don't hear about it. My first marriage, I was beta, and I got divorced by my wife. My second marriage, I'm in charge and things have been smooth sailing for over 10 years now.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 04:01 PM
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Just going for the easy upvotes, huh? Are you even trying? lol
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 03:58 PM
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Spinning plates = dating. You don't think dating means exclusivity, do you?
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 03:51 PM
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Wrong. Don't be so available, don't ask her so last minute, and don't ask her to "hang out" (read: bluepill) like friends. You need to ask her out clearly. You should give her a few days to get ready, and pick some place that allows her to dress up nicely (read: slutty) to show off for you. You go for drinks to keep it under $20 to weed out women who are spinning you. Ask her on a date which means MORE than friends. Use the WORD "date". Have a plan. Know where and when. Something like: Hey, I wa…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 12:11 AM
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That has to be one of the best lines ever. Which, of course, we all know he improv'd during filming. Right?
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 04:30 PM
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Tell me - guys don't want to buy expensive cars thinking it can get them laid?
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 01:15 PM
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Han?
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 01:05 PM
2

Another "No shit Sherlock" study. Who pays for these things? I should start my own. A long time ago, Hustler magazine (yeah, that long ago) had a 1-panel cartoon with a husband and fat wife, naked in bed, and he couldn't get it up. He is explaining that he doesn't think he is the source of the problem, as he is looking out the window at some thin, stacked hottie is jogging by wearing next to nothing and he's getting hard ...
/r/TheRedPill25/03/14 05:29 PM
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Related article: http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2011/08/09/ED-linked-to-womens-friendship-with-males/UPI-92501312863195/?spt=hs&or=hn Do you even need to read the article to know ED is caused by your wife fucking other men? This dude ... jeez ... I'm at a loss for words.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/14 03:50 PM
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The problem here is that she is complaining that she is getting hit on by lame guys doing the exact same shit every time. You know, talking to her about the weather, telling her she's pretty, saying he loves her (but doesn't even know her last name), etc. Any guy who takes the time to be smarter than other guys by just 5% will stand out to her. Any guy who negged her would instantly stand out from the masses.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 01:30 PM
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Or any guy who knew anything redpill. She is really complaining about guys who don't know shit, and try to hit on her by talking about the weather or buying her something.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 01:28 PM
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Really negging was a PUA repackaging of what occurs naturally between two witty people. This, a thousand time this...
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 11:27 PM
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This does work, but only to the effect you are desiring if you are the one who initiates the friendzone and tells the HB she cannot have you, and she is still trying to get more. If you're friendzoned by her, then you're doing yourself a major disservice because you cannot maintain the sexual tension needed to be able to show social proof, such as physical contact and so forth.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 05:00 PM
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I think you are the plate here.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 09:16 PM
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I agree entirely. A long time ago a wiser-than-me friend told me something along the lines of this: When a woman has any male "friends", she is using you and them. Think about it in terms of an investment. You are dating this one woman, and you are giving her 100% of your time and energy. However, let's say she is spending time with only one other male "friend" and you, then if you do some simple math you can quickly determine that your rate of return may be only 50%. This is because she is spli…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 09:15 PM
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I'm sure you've all heard this one too, but my go-to reply is "Uh, no, how about you buy me a drink?" I am always amazed at how well it works.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 09:08 PM
2

Awesome.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 09:07 PM
1

And this is why my first dates are always for (alcoholic) drinks. No movies. No dinners. No parties. No anything else. You can get rid of nearly every woman who is trying to use you this way.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 08:12 PM
2

Brilliant. I was wondering what I was going to do for dinner tonight.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 08:09 PM
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Is she giving out her phone number? No? Then she's getting attention from other guys and banging you. Ignore them. Is she making friends with them, or otherwise has a lot of male friends? Is that what you want in a woman? No? Dump her. I stopped dating women who had to have attention from every Tom, Dick, and Harry out there. They are simply too insecure for me. Here's an interesting related article: http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2011/08/09/ED-linked-to-womens-friendship-with-males/UPI-92501312…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 08:01 PM
2

Get clicking!
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 06:19 PM
2

Yes, but downvoting them is easy.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 06:05 PM
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This is a lesson to learn - if you chase a woman with a boyfriend and she dumps him to be with you, it means a few things and it all has to do with you. It means you're a dishonest and manipulative guy, which means you are not long-term quality. Therefore, if anything goes wrong, you're an easy guy to cut out of her life. In some ways what you did was to cause her to cheat on her boyfriend (from what it appears to me, correct me if I am wrong) forcing her to break up with him out of her integrit…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 03:25 PM
1

What part of that 2 hour video is relevant?
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 03:18 PM
2

Physical age has no bearing. Intellectual age is a huge issue, but many men and women don't understand this. I've been with women who are in their 30's, but still have Hello Kitty crap all over, have stuffed animals in their room, have comic sheets and car seat covers, can't or don't know how to cook, live in piles of dirty clothes strewn around their house, lie, cheat, and are generally untrustworthy, text constantly, blow money n useless shit, wreck your car, have a BOX of unpaid tickets (yes,…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 03:13 PM
1

My instinct is to beat this guy to a pulp. I'm not sure if that's the right thing to do, but jesus I keep having this thought that it would feel really good. Bluepill. It has nothing to do with him, and everything to do with her and your bluepill behaviors which made it easy for her to cheat on you. If anything, make friends with him and spend more time with him. You'll possibly learn some new skills from him, being aware to not pick up his dishonesty and cheating skills, and also take him away …
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 03:04 PM
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Looks matter, but only depending on what a woman wants. Does she want a one-night stand? Then good looks matter. Women will fuck the best looking guy they can find. Does she want a man to date/marry/long term? Then good looks may actually be a negative quality. It's been shown that many good looking guys are viewed as less attractive overall to women looking for long term, simply because the women think the guy will sleep around more and make a less viable long term partner. Therefore, if you're…
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 07:57 PM
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I did that until the mods started getting all blue pill on me (rolling my eyes). I decided to not get banned.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 07:22 PM
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Trust would be #1. My list is way too long otherwise, but trust ... without that, nothing else matters.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 07:16 PM
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Remember, what women find attractive in men changes as men get older. Older men are expected to be financially stable, more mature and ready to have a family, own a home (or at least not be living with 4 dudes in an apartment), and so forth. You can still have fun, and you can do it alone, just understand what changes.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/14 03:46 PM
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insite... "Insight" Just bustin on ya.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 05:26 PM
1

Well said! I agree.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 12:40 AM
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The crucial point I think you missed is that you can be much more successful if you treat a woman like your child (with care, respect, honesty, fun, security, etc) than treating her like A child that you don't care about.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 12:10 AM
1

That's perfect!
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 06:51 PM
1

Based on your comments, I gather this is a long distance relationship. Is this permanent or temporary? I'll tell you right now that once I adopted a rule of not dating any woman who lived more than (about) 15 minutes away from me I started having much better relationships. I'd even go so far as to say a LDR is a "beginner" or "practice" or even "fake" relationship if it is rarely or never in person. If you see her less than once or twice a month, it's not a relationship. Once a week? Still, you'…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 08:14 PM
1

I agree.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 02:47 AM
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I know those women. That's clever in a different scenario. It is not clever in this case to get your degree, then also marry him even though you don't like him, stick with him and be miserable for a few months or years (or whatever), and then divorce him ... for the alimony?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 12:30 AM
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You are absolutely right, but there's an equal chance that is not always the case - and I've seen it.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 11:34 PM
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Personally, I don't think many women are this clever. They want free education and then freedom. Why put in years of being stuck with some "loser" when she can dump him and find a new, more fun guy?
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 09:17 PM
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I've read at least a dozen idiot guys doing this over the years. Girl moves in, goes to school, he pays, she graduates and dumps him. Big surprise.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 07:13 PM
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She had just finished her degree and was looking to enter the professional world. What do you want to bet he helped pay her way through school too? I can't remember how many times I have seen this happen.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 05:27 PM
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and [I] have gotten them to pay for my shit. This is a lot like one of my best pick up lines: "Hey, would you like to buy me a drink?" 9 out of 10 times a woman will do it, because it's not the same AFC move most guys pull. I can't explain it better since I am hungover, but I'm sure you can extrapolate from there.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/14 08:25 PM
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To me, it's the same as any other attribute. For example, this could easily be the same thing as asking what your views are on dating a woman who is more attractive than you, who works out more than you do, who is more social than you do, and so forth. Would it change anything for you? It doesn't for me; she still has to prove herself to me in other ways. Does she still do what you expect of her to make you happy to be with her?
/r/TheRedPill01/03/14 05:02 PM
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Aww is she hungry. She gets this way when shes hungry. I can't tell you how spot on you are about this. My wife is great most of the time, but when things start going wrong I ask her when she ate last. I am constantly dismayed to discover she has eaten nothing, and it's 4 in the afternoon! My 19 month old son also is the exact same way. If he's being fussy or upset, he also has not eaten (enough). Feed them both, and things get back to normal. Some days I just can't believe it.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/14 04:33 PM
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I only got to 30 seconds!
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 02:56 AM
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Take a bartending class & use flash cards. It sounds lame, but it works.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/14 02:41 AM
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My take: I did get her number first day I meant her (doesn't mean much, I know) It could have. You could have called her after about 4-5 days (my best results were that long) and ask her on a date. Plain and simple. Ask her out for drinks, nothing else. If she accepts (even if she suggests a different day or time) you're golden. If she makes an excuse (like she did here, the "relationship" line, which I've heard dozens of times too) then you move on. Actions speak louder than words with women. I…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/14 11:27 PM
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This is the gayest shit I've ever read. I laughed. So true.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/14 06:48 PM
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Translation: that's nice of you! You're a "nice guy". This is because you did not make your intentions clear and probably did not get her number and/or ask her out on a date, correct? If so, buying/giving her gifts is premature, and you've not followed the proper steps to make this a sexual relationship first and then she earns gifts second (or later). I take it that means you're into me Which is her saying "... since you never asked me on a date". Is that true? If so, you did not escalate thing…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/14 06:47 PM
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That men who pick up women who are not single (i.e., married/have a boyfriend) are basing their success off of a mistaken believe that dishonesty is an attractive trait to women. As a result, they mostly experience women who themselves are dishonest. This leads to the belief that most or all women are dishonest and ultimately leads to dissatisfaction with women for a large number of these men who then end up single because they cannot find a woman they trust to not cheat on him!
/r/TheRedPill12/02/14 05:53 PM
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I've always wondered why I feel like I can have any married woman in any given room, but single women are much more time consuming. I'm convinced the difference lies entirely in my approach. I would wager that single women are looking for more than just a lay, so they are taking their time to get to know you. A married woman who is looking to cheat doesn't care about any personality traits other than you not being beta.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/14 05:41 PM
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Agreed - if you dress nicer, for example, and it makes you feel better about yourself, it's a simple confidence boost. Confidence is attractive, and you're more likely to step up your game as a result.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/14 02:49 PM
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I was thinking "Ok, that guy is getting up to get out of the way. Okay, they are moving him out of the way. Why are they arresting him ... wait ... oh wow. Yeah, no."
/r/TheRedPill11/02/14 02:33 PM
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Your next move is to simply decide what your standards are. Do you want to date a woman who is texting 5 other guys? Is that her best behavior, the best she can be, and if so is that the level of respect you demand? If you like being treated like one of many, you do nothing. However, if you like to be treated better, then you move on. There's no reason to snoop, tell her why, or anything else. It's all about deciding what YOU want, that's all. Do you want a woman who you can trust and doesn't ma…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/14 05:29 PM
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Don't give your number, tell her to give you her number. Giving your number is desperate and weak, and forces her to initiate conversation with you offline. Get her number, then YOU ask her out on a date.
/r/seduction04/12/13 12:29 AM
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What to do? Think about it differently, it's not what you need to do, but the message she is sending which you need to interpret. If you were on a date with an attractive woman who you thought was fantastic, would you pull out your phone and text your buddy or check the game scores? Probably not. Why? Obviously because that would be rude and you'd be worried she'd be offended and leave. Women are masters of social interactions, so if she pulls out her phone she is sending you a message. The mess…
/r/seduction03/12/13 08:31 PM
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Then call her and ask her on a date. Texting is for setting up dates and girlfriends (and friendzone). I refuse to text a woman unless it's something like "Hey, let's get together tonight at 8, yeah?"
/r/seduction02/12/13 09:27 PM
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Texting and phone calls are business tools, much like email. Treat them as such. Text to make plans, and then meet in person. Isn't that the whole point? Don't you want to go out? Maybe get laid? You don't get anywhere with extensive texting. Ask her out, and if she accepts you're done. If she doesn't agree, then find someone else. Repeat until successful.
/r/seduction26/11/13 03:17 PM
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You're making excuses. Stop it. Believe in yourself. If I can do it, you can too. Practice your social skills and you'll have the same end result if not better.
/r/seduction26/11/13 01:40 PM
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Because you allow yourself to think you're better when you're drunk. The fact is that alcohol is a depressant, so to some extent it will inhibit your inhibitions which means you're less likely to "hold back" or otherwise not act on your own skills. What you have to remember is that these social skills/behaviors that you exhibit/perform when you haven been drinking already exist within your brain. It's not like you can't do them sober. You simply choose not to do these things when you are sober. …
/r/seduction25/11/13 04:32 PM
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I had the same problem. Then one day it occurred to me ... alcohol doesn't make me smarter, funnier, whatever ... I already have those abilities and they don't go away when I am sober. So if you can tell a joke when you're drunk, just remember you can do it sober too. If you can flirt while you are drunk, you can do it sober. Alcohol doesn't "create" any abilities in your brain. It's not like some pill that magically teaches you how to speak French, and once you sober up you can't speak French a…
/r/seduction25/11/13 02:24 PM
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Food for thought - what do you find attractive in a woman. Winter aside, the girl who dresses in a tight skirt, low-cut blouse, high heels, or the girl in jeans, t-shirt, and hoody? And think about how women prefer their man? I'm not saying you have to wear a suit, but you may want to consider wearing something that makes you stand out a little. This also goes into "peacock" theory, but I'll let you Google that - and suggest you avoid going overboard. :)
/r/seduction25/11/13 02:17 PM
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That is what I read a long time ago, and it's been pretty accurate in my experience. The look back is very powerful. If you see a woman look down ... and then keep watching her ... and she looks back up, I just smile and give her a look like "Ha! I caught you looking at me, I know you think I'm good looking" but in a friendly way, and they usually smile.
/r/seduction24/11/13 05:23 PM
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I don't know anything about you, so please don't take this the wrong way, but the first thing that popped into my brain was "Wear a suit!" To expand upon that, your overall looks say a lot about you. If you look nice, clean cut, professional, you will possibly get a different reaction from women. When I go out in my sweatpants and hoody, few women look at me. When I wear a nice pair of slacks, dress shirt, and a tie ... the results are far better.
/r/seduction24/11/13 05:21 PM
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Learn about body language. If a woman looks away and to the side she does not find you attractive. If she looks away and down then she thinks you ARE attractive. Chances are she will look back up at you, at which point you should smile, say hi, and possibly make an approach. Personally, I don't approach women while walking down the street, but that's just me. It's incredibly difficult, so I never bothered other than to take it as a compliment.
/r/seduction24/11/13 04:09 PM
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Ask them if they are single after a few minutes, 5 minutes tops. This helped me TREMENDOUSLY. Not only is it good for you, but it also makes your intentions clear (honesty) and shows you're a good quality guy. If they are in a relationship, politely tell them that's great, you're looking for someone single, ask them if they have any single friends, and if not ... be on your way.
/r/seduction24/11/13 03:45 PM
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Well, I am relieved to hear that was not your perspective, because it was completely confusing and fucked up. No wonder my reply made no sense, your comment wasn't truly yours and ... well, being the "messenger" made for some shit content. That colors the quality of replies you're going to get. And for the record, as long as women are playfully calling you an asshole, you're doing it right. And it sounds to me that you are doing it right - your (finally) honest reply is what sets you apart from …
/r/seduction20/11/13 01:59 PM
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but now you are just assuming any guy being nice has an agenda.. Assuming he is a heterosexual male, and he finds her sexually attractive, then yes - he has an agenda. That's a fact of life. Again, you're lying to yourself to think otherwise. And only children lie about the sexual connection between adults. Adjust your frame of mind and you'll start to see it differently. I'm referring to the guys who have been conditioned to think that talking to females this way their entire lives is whats gon…
/r/seduction20/11/13 02:40 AM
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This is your key misunderstanding: She's been validated a lot. So much so that compliments have been the default response from so many people. She has not been validated. She has been lied to by "guys" who think if they are dishonest or disingenuous with their comments they can get somewhere. "Guys" who are not open and honest about their intentions are the guys she has learned to avoid. For example, the guy who tries to be her friend? He's a liar, and she knows it, so she friendzones him. The g…
/r/seduction20/11/13 02:10 AM
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Just remember, date to disqualify bad women. So she's a woman, great. But what about the two of you? Is there any real connection? Is she everything you've ever wanted in a woman? Does she feel the same as having you for a partner? Or does she have a boyfriend (or husband!),smoke a pack a day (presuming you don't....), does drugs, hate dogs and you have two, won't go down on you or otherwise isn't good in bed, spend money like crazy and you know about /r/frugal, have a box full of parking ticket…
/r/seduction17/11/13 12:20 AM
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I usually did it when I first met them. Besides the obvious standards you need to have (is she attractive enough for you), I would see if I could make a connection with her. I'd ask about things she liked, and ask about her opinion on things I liked. So, in my case, I'd ask if she was SINGLE (this is CRITICAL!) and if so, the I would find out if she liked sushi, steak, my favorite TV show and/or movies, type of music, enjoyed drinking, was a non-smoker and non-drug user, didn't have a lot of guy…
/r/seduction15/11/13 08:37 PM
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Go to Amazon.com and buy some books. I really liked Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo. There are plenty of others, but I recommend you read one, then go out and try what you learn for a few weeks, then buy something else, repeat, etc.
/r/seduction15/11/13 04:41 PM
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My best results came when I adopted the motto of "Date to disqualify". If you want to date a woman who is flaky on the first date (at her best!) then by all means chase her more. When you learn to disqualify shitty women in 5 minutes, you will be amazed at how liberating it becomes. You will suddenly realize that YOU ARE THE PRIZE and you hold all the keys. Women do not hold power over you at this point, and suddenly you are picking out only the best women. I used to initiate two or three attemp…
/r/seduction14/11/13 08:14 PM
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the most crucial point yet, I don't aim to go for the number, I aim to make a connection and see if I even WANT to hang out with her again. This is called honesty, and this is what so many guys fail to understand, and with it they don't understand the implications. This is why you are successful, and all men should take heed. A woman can tell if you're just repeating some lines, and she won't care. Many will give you their phone number so you go away. You are being dishonest, manipulative, not g…
/r/seduction13/11/13 06:13 PM
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What you said mirrored my experience almost 100%. The thing that finally helped me get out of that slump was to realize that those women were the women you needed to "discover" and disqualify as fast as possible. Where you're stuck is letting them reject you (rejection is a myth in my opinion) and instead you need to get to the point where you reject them. My humble take on your comments: I believed that women were all whores who will cheat on their partners Women cheat on partners who are (a) n…
/r/seduction10/11/13 07:36 PM
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Devil's advocate (nothing personal, your comment just reminded me of this): Don't be yourself. Read this as to why: http://www.sosuave.com/articles/at/whynot.htm
/r/seduction09/11/13 02:45 PM
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Do NOT be yourself, especially if you fuck things up. Read this: http://www.sosuave.com/articles/at/whynot.htm And if you want so good advice on how to keep a woman, go read Doc Love and his columns. His book is genius as well, download it and read it until you understand it (I had to read it three times).
/r/seduction09/11/13 02:45 PM
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I'm going to ask some tough questions that are designed to make you think. Don't take this personally, think about the messages here, ok? When you meet and woman and try to turn things long term, do you do so because she is a perfect woman who you want to spent a lot more time with, or do you do it just for the sex? Why do you spend time on the phone every night instead of seeing her in person? You say you didn't feel like talking to her, does that mean you do not feel a strong attraction to her…
/r/seduction09/11/13 02:40 PM
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If you are interested in dating a woman, you should always do the following: Ask her if she has a boyfriend. If she says no, ask her on a date using the word "date". Fail to do those means you're a lot more likely to get friendzoned, which typically leads to them wasting your time, effort, or money!
/r/seduction08/11/13 08:15 PM
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You are right, everyone texts. But beyond that ... sorry, I don't get your point. What are you trying to say? Would you please clarify your stance?
/r/seduction07/11/13 10:52 PM
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You're right, but texting just isn't as effective as talking on the phone or in person. My close rate increased dramatically when I called instead of texted. I think it was because I wouldn't call a woman to just talk, because it felt like friendzone. I'd call, flirt, and ask her out. You can simply communicate SO much more with your voice than trying to type (ironic as I type this out, huh?) and I found the results speak for themselves. No pun intended! :)
/r/seduction07/11/13 10:51 PM
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While you embrace it, other guys are taking women out and embracing them in real life. I'm not trying to insult you or anything, I'm just saying that a relationship with a phone is not what most women want, and I say that based on experience. Use texting to set up a date, but little more. I have dated many women who get a text and they say "Or, that's just some guy I know" yet she is out with me.
/r/seduction07/11/13 03:23 PM
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Texting = friendzone. You want sex? Use texting to ask her on a date and do it in person.
/r/seduction07/11/13 02:30 AM
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Thank you kind sir!
/r/seduction07/11/13 01:37 AM
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Friday? As if both you and she have no life whatsoever? I had FAR better luck making a woman have to "earn" my Friday nights. Ask her out for Wednesday or Thursday and tell her you have plans Friday. She'll wonder what you are doing and will want to earn that spot in your life.
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:09 PM
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do you suggest just telling her a time and place and showing up anyways in hopes that she does? We were gonna check out a movie she was talking about, No, ask her on a "date", name the time and place, and ask her if she accepts. If she says yes, she'll be there. If she says anything else then it's a "No". And don't take a woman to a movie on the first date! How are you going to build rapport, attraction, get to know her ... when you can't talk! A good first date is drinks, or a cupcake, or a wal…
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:07 PM
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Done. Go lookie. :)
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:05 PM
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Hell no, you use it to ask her on a date and THEN you build rapport/attraction etc., and disqualify her if you don't get along.
/r/seduction06/11/13 10:04 PM
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Ah, my bad! I'll reply there.
/r/seduction06/11/13 09:31 PM
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Honestly, I challenge women on the stuff they say. I call them a liar if they say something that just sounds too good to be true. I tease, flirt, touch, make jokes, and just have a good time. The most important thing I do, however, is to be very sure the woman I am talking to has a good level of chemistry with me. If there is no chemistry, I don't waste my time trying to force a fake "connection". I move on. There's no need to invest extra time or effort into someone if it won't end well, when y…
/r/seduction06/11/13 09:15 PM
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Aside from the current good advice in here, how about you give us a break down of the last failure? Post the convos, what your plans were, and so forth.
/r/seduction06/11/13 09:07 PM
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Another vote for this. I came here to say this.
/r/seduction06/11/13 09:06 PM
2

lol wat? Haha
/r/seduction05/11/13 01:24 PM
1

This attitude is SO healthy. I am sure you'll do just fine. :)
/r/seduction05/11/13 01:23 PM
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You're welcome. By the way, this is all learning from making mistakes. You should embrace everything that happened in a situation like this and then don't do it again. Find the mistakes and FIX THEM. Seeing her is simple. Be polite to her and don't do or so anything that would make her feel awkward. Say hello if you see her, but nothing more! Be calm, cool, collected, confident, and POLITE. NO THERAPY TALK! No talking about how it didn't work out! No apologies for the texts! Just "Hello!" and ke…
/r/seduction04/11/13 10:31 PM
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Damn good advice.
/r/seduction04/11/13 10:17 PM
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I would have done something different for the first text. Instead of being so distant (your text was ok, but not really a continuation of the mood), I would have said something like "Hey woman, I had a great time last night, did you?" The second text, was classic "therapy". You killed it right there. Sorry. :( In addition, sending the second text without waiting for a reply is generally a bad move. In general, I have better luck sending one text and waiting. It's like tennis - hit the ball over …
/r/seduction04/11/13 10:16 PM
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This is simple: Take your time and actually get to know them and determine if they have anything in common with you that would make you a good couple. No, it is not enough that she's female and pretty and talks to you. You need to have standards. Your list should be long. And you should disqualify women who don't meet your standards. I suspect you've never done this, correct? So what are your standards? I can share some of mine with you: She must be 25-35 years old (I'm in my 40's). Must be blon…
/r/seduction04/11/13 09:13 PM
1

How many texts did you send, and what did you say?
/r/seduction04/11/13 08:54 PM
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Yeah, this really is it. Personally, I would have bailed on her as soon as she started talking to me like I was her therapist. There's a reason why she's so pretty ... and alone.
/r/seduction04/11/13 08:53 PM
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There's no reason to not ask her on a second date. Just call her, ask her out and know the day, time, and venue. I'd recommend drinks as the date. It's cheap for one, and if she accepts that means she is willing to let her guard down (alcohol) to be with you and maybe let something more happen. What do you have to lose? Either she'll say yes or she will make some excuse. If she makes that excuse, THEN you know you are done with her. (This is the most important point.) BTW, call her, don't text h…
/r/seduction04/11/13 06:22 PM
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What's to know here? She wanted to get laid, and wants you to go away now. I think you may simple need to take the hint and move on. Her lack of communication is a dead giveaway that she is done with you. Besides, picking up women at clubs typically doesn't lead to anything long term. And if you went home and fucked the first night I'd double the odds there. It's just a game, and so are the skills you use, and the game is over now. If you want to find someone who is interested in you long term, …
/r/seduction04/11/13 06:10 PM
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The simple answer is "What are your standards?" Ask yourself ... Do you want to date a woman who does that? How would you feel if you ended up getting married, and had kids, and she still did that? How does it reflect on you? Is she flirting with intent, or just being friendly? Is this a "you" issue (are you insecure) or a her issue (she's shopping around and giving out her phone number)? I like women who are social, but have boundaries. I think touching other men she does not know is crossing t…
/r/seduction04/11/13 06:00 PM
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Also dies anyone have any advice I what I can do? I'll see her in class tomorrow. Advice: Stop talking about her to her friends. That is a MAJOR mistake. She will think you are spreading her personal life among her peers which is death for you. When you see her, be yourself - the guy you were the night before. And remember, unless you're some texting God, texting is incredibly difficult and (in my opinion) should be avoided except to set up dates. Tell her you don't really like texting because i…
/r/seduction04/11/13 05:49 PM
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Remember ... Date to disqualify. When you date, you have to have some standards. You cannot just go on a date and say to yourself "She's female, that'll do!" You have to really get to know her and see if she meets your standards. If she doesn't meet them, then you disqualify her. For example ... Is she single (#1 issue!) both emotionally and physically? Is she clinically sane? is she interested in you? Does she smoke? Do drugs? Have tons of debt? Is she a golddigger and only went out with you be…
/r/seduction02/11/13 04:08 PM
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Simple. Go drinking, come back home and continue, let the ladies lead the way.
/r/seduction30/10/13 02:43 AM
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We did not go that in depth, sorry. However, we found first dates were less likely to be accepted if we asked women out for a date on Friday or Saturday evenings. Therefore, all our dates were usually on weekday nights.
/r/seduction30/10/13 01:57 AM
1

Calling. Texting was so bad we stopped using it.
/r/seduction24/10/13 06:11 PM
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Simple - we went out, got numbers, waited x amount of days, called the woman, and then tallied the results in a spreadsheet. We had columns for the number of days (1-10) and number of dates. I wish I still had it, but it was from years ago. Anyone can do the same.
/r/seduction24/10/13 05:04 PM
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Ask her on a date - something simple, like drinks or a dessert. If she makes an excuse to not go with you, move on. Her signals are SIMPLE. Women communicate with actions, not words. If she acts like she wants to be with you in person, pursue. If she refuses to spend time with you in person, MOVE ON.
/r/seduction24/10/13 02:47 PM
2

Interesting read, thanks.
/r/seduction24/10/13 02:27 PM
2

The best part is when you blow it (and believe me, I blew it a lot) you can just walk out and go to the next store and learn what NOT to do again. :)
/r/seduction24/10/13 02:21 PM
1

Only if you never, ever apologize. If you want to apologize, I will accept. Brian, get a picture of Mr. Marsh apologizing. Apologize. Kiss it.
/r/seduction24/10/13 02:20 PM
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Female friends are fine if, and only if, they are hooking you up with their friends. They have to see you as a sexual man. If not, you're not a friend, you're a child to them. Typically guys end up being "feminized" and acting like women (not men) around women, which basically means you're not being sexual. That makes you very unattractive to women. You are essentially practicing how to NOT be a man. If you're having problems dating women at all, I strongly recommend you do not be friends with A…
/r/seduction24/10/13 01:25 PM
1

I came here to post this. Thanks for saving me the time.
/r/seduction24/10/13 01:21 PM
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If you made a great impression, I've gone as long as 10 days. If you made a shitty impression, it won't matter when you call. My friend and I did some research on about 50 women we met and discovered that waiting 4-5 days resulted in the most first AND second dates. The worst was calling within 1-3 days! It was actually better to call 6-7 days later, but then it then trailed off.
/r/seduction24/10/13 01:11 PM
3

Simple - start now so when you are a little older you have the basics, and more, down and are capable. Even if you cannot go to clubs or bars, practice being social with everyone you meet. I used to practice by going to upscale malls near my house and walking into every store, finding the hottest female employee, and then asking her about ideas for a female friend. Then I would tease her and make jokes about how her idea was lame, was that the best she could think of, and so forth. That would tu…
/r/seduction24/10/13 12:51 PM
1

While you are somewhat right, and I would agree in a "normal" situation, this is not one of those times. He was not a man here. He was a fool and acted like a stalker, and has likely ruined his reputation with her and any women she knows. The act of apologizing in this situation is an engineered response. When he apologizes to her, and makes it clear that he finally got a clue that he was being a creepy fucking stalker, and then backs off, she will recognize that he was being genuine. The engine…
/r/seduction24/10/13 12:42 PM
6

I came here expecting some BS article. I was impressed. The truth is so obviously laid out in this article, it's a masterpiece.
/r/seduction23/10/13 07:46 PM
10

Ok, you have not given a ton of details, but this sounds a lot like a pretty typical scenario. Don't take what I am saying personally, I just write like this to get my point across quickly. Ok? You need to realize that most women cannot or will not tell a guy like you to go away or leave her alone. They do this because you are immature and inexperienced, and they are worried that you will get extremely upset, or you will increase your pressure and not leave her alone. Either way, most women have…
/r/seduction23/10/13 02:29 PM
1

I hate to make you feel like I am dragging this out, but do you remember exactly what she said when she criticized you?
/r/seduction22/10/13 11:55 PM
1

Can you provide some examples of what exactly is going on? I see this one example: "hop off my dick" But there is no context. What happened leading up to that?
/r/seduction22/10/13 11:40 PM
1

The concept is the same.
/r/seduction22/10/13 11:16 PM
10

A quick nothing-personal disclaimer: I think you're stupid to try to get with lesbians. Everything you have to learn and do is completely backwards from dating normal women, and it's such a waste of time it's not worth it in my opinion. Plus, it makes you a really shitty person all around - you have to lie, cheat, manipulate, etc., and that just makes you a bad person. It will also set you back months if not years in terms of personal development and relationship skills. In the time you might be…
/r/seduction22/10/13 08:39 PM
2

Do you want to date them?
/r/seduction22/10/13 07:24 PM
5

Why are you being her "friend" and "playing therapist" with her? Why are you telling her your "past experiences"? Is she single now? Why are you going to dinner and not taking her on a date? (Dinner is NOT a good first date.) There are virtually no details here, but from what I can see and based on my past experiences, you are so far into friendzone you may as well give up now. Why? Talking to her about her boyfriend means she is not single. You telling her to break up means you're an asshole. H…
/r/seduction21/10/13 12:34 PM
6

No. Could you have asked your guy friend out using the same line and he would not think you were hitting on him? Yes? Then you're friendzoning yourself, lying to her and yourself about your intentions, and wasting your time and money trying to figure out if she likes you or just wants a free lunch from some sucker. Call her back, and gently ask if she knows that this is a "date", use the word "date", and see what she says. If she says that's fine, then you HAVE FOUND OUT THE TRUTH which is the c…
/r/seduction21/10/13 12:27 PM
2

Simple: When men are friends with women, they typically remove all sexual behavior ... which repels women. The more you do it, the worse you get at acting male. You're not asking her out, you're (typically) not flirting in a sexual way, and you're not touching her in a sexual manner (kino). Instead, your behaviors are more feminine or child-like. You may touch in a "friendly" manner, but it doesn't carry the same message. If a woman could do it to another woman, you're doing it wrong. So ... hug…
/r/seduction21/10/13 12:28 AM
1

Basically not being boring, predictable, or uninteresting.
/r/seduction20/10/13 11:00 PM
2

It was my only day off for a week.
/r/seduction20/10/13 10:49 PM
61

I know exactly where you are coming from. I was at the same point about ten years ago. I met many women, and disqualified all of them. I had very, VERY high standards yet not a single woman I met would even get past one of the very basic required traits. I finally gave up, and swore off women. Not 15 minutes later I met the perfect woman. I'll spare you the long story, but we've been together for 10 years now. On our first date I knew I had to marry her. As for your points: The shit tests. Have …
/r/seduction20/10/13 11:38 AM
1

My only suggestion in this situation is to hold back. Don't get over eager, don't get over excited, and don't get overly demanding. As with any male-female relation, if you push for more she will likely push back. And for the love of science (haha) don't tell anyone, and flat out deny any involvement.
/r/seduction19/10/13 12:29 PM
1

If you do it is up to you. Since she is older and your boss you may have to just put yourself into a situation alone with her and see if she makes a move. And, of course, be ready to lose your job when it all goes to hell. If you're okay with that, have fun.
/r/seduction18/10/13 03:03 PM
3

I'm asking about how to act in situations where she talks about personal things that won't make me her shrink or goto feels guy. Assuming this is a woman who you have known for a short period of time, this is a test. If you play therapist, you fail the test and get friendzoned.
/r/seduction18/10/13 01:00 PM
3

Keeping the friendship only keeps you stuck in a one-itus frame of mind. This will affect you with other women as well. I should know, it took me 9 years to stop doing that shit with women. Drop her and never look back. From there on out, always ask a woman out on a date FIRST, and if there is no sexual connection move on right away. You've wasted two years of your life on her, when you could have met dozens of other women who probably are totally into you.
/r/seduction18/10/13 12:08 PM
2

The point of waiting is to go out and think about your day-to-day interactions with people, and how they relate back to the book you just read. Therefore, I would suggest you take a break from reading and be social and work on the stuff from the first book, then in a few weeks move to the next one. Does that make sense?
/r/seduction18/10/13 11:47 AM
1

Sadly, I must inform you that my real-world experience has proven I will get more dates and second dates if I wait exactly 4-5 days to call a woman. Now, if you have real-world experience asking out women, and 3 days is the new magic number that women are most responsive, please do inform me.
/r/seduction18/10/13 11:42 AM
4

This. Lessons are awesome.
/r/seduction17/10/13 10:59 PM
1

What other advice do your guy friends offer? Frankly, some of the best advice I got was from guys. And the women ... well, they know nothing about male issues, stop asking them for ANY kind of advice. Ah, i read philosophy. It was very neat, but didn't help me at all. Looking back, I wouldn't do it again.
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:29 PM
1

What's the point of getting numbers? You need to screen out women you DON'T like, and only ask for numbers from women who you actually DO want to go out with. And then call them and ask them on a date. And a friendly fuck you - guys like you are the reason why women hand out their numbers like candy - it's designed to GET RID OF YOU.
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:26 PM
1

Have you read Doc Love's "System"? (You can download it free.) Therapy - well, for one it sounds like you're making another excuse, so my gut reaction would be to tell you to stop making excuses ... like you've been doing ... and get yourself some third party advice. How soon are you moving? If it's more than 6 months away, then yeah, what would it hurt? If you're moving in a month, then no - don't bother!
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:22 PM
1

I just have to say it - phone calls and texting should BOTH be used to set up dates. They are business-like tools, treat them as such. Very few people want to have a relationship on their phone. Get out and do something in real life!
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:14 PM
1

Have you read No More Mr. Nice Guy? What about Double Your Dating? Body language is good, but for me the basics was to stand/sit up straight and look a woman in the eyes. Kin is good too. If you were getting nowhere with the therapist, pick another. I screened 4 guys before I found they guy who helped me. The first ones were really lame, but the guy I worked with ... wow, I'd walk out every day with a major life epiphany. He was a genius. If you're not getting that, find someone else. And yeah, …
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:11 PM
2

This is my tried-and-true: "Hey, you seem like an interesting woman, give me your number. I'll call you and we can go on a date." Shut up. Hand her your phone (open to "New Contact"). Wait 3+ days, then call her and ask her on a "date" (use the word "date"!) and invite her out for drinks. Pick a place, day, and time. Drinks ONLY. If she accepts (or changes the day or time) you're good. If she makes ANY EXCUSE, tell her you completely understand and you'll see her around, then delete her number a…
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:08 PM
1

I've been there, done that. You can get through it. Have you read any books to help you deal with this, or worked with a therapist? I have read some great books which helped, and I worked with a guy in my area who was amazing and helped me a lot. Are either of those options for you?
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:00 PM
2

At the time, yes I was. Simply because I took the time to be a little better than the average guy out there. And you can do that too, but not if you make excuses like "Women can have any guy they want." It does not work that way. If you don't believe me, go look at the comments in GoneWild, or make a fake profile on a dating site with a pretty girl's picture. The idiots who reply will repulse you. And women feel the same way. It's just not that easy. It's like saying they could eat dogshit every…
/r/seduction17/10/13 02:48 PM
3

You assume other guys are worthwhile. I know plenty of women who are single because most guys are idiots. What you are saying, in my opinion, is just how your psyche yourself out and prevent yourself from trying harder. It's bullshit.
/r/seduction17/10/13 02:29 PM
1

Chuckle. :)
/r/seduction17/10/13 11:52 AM
3

It sounds like it, but I have used that line hundreds of times and it usually has good results. I like to think it says I don't care if she isn't interested, because I'm not desperate to meet her, and her reaction was enough to tell me she's not good enough for me. When they come back around (and more often than not they do) now they have to prove to me why I need to talk to them.
/r/seduction17/10/13 11:52 AM
3

Actually, I said it more in a literal "I understand, but that's because I know how women work because I'm a high quality guy, and I know the game you're playing" way. Yeah, how the hell do you explain that? Haha.
/r/seduction17/10/13 11:50 AM
2

Maybe, but I think of it more as a "Your loss", "it doesn't bother me" reaction. I was not put out, rude, depressed ... I just went back to doing my thing.
/r/seduction17/10/13 11:41 AM
12

What's to get? I acted confident, even in the fact of being "turned down", but ultimately she came after me because of that confidence. I should add, this was in a club with probably 50 men and only these 4 women, and I was the only guy to approach them.
/r/seduction17/10/13 11:40 AM
17

Fucking was involved, does that count?
/r/seduction17/10/13 01:36 AM
379

Exactly. The one I remember the most was when I was in a club. There were a few girls sitting at a table nearby, and one had looked at me a few times, and then talked to her friends. I walked over and said something like "Hey, I noticed you looking my way, want some company?" She laughed at me and said no, I must have been mistaken. I politely and calmly said "Oh, I completely understand, have a nice night." and turned and walked back to my seat and sat back down. The girls all started talking a…
/r/seduction16/10/13 09:06 PM
2

Buy the book Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo.
/r/seduction15/10/13 09:23 PM
1

I make them guess. When they are wrong, I (politely, teasingly, and in a fun way) belittle them for being so wrong. Or I bet they cannot guess, and if they fail they have to kiss me. Beware of the ladies who guess a range, like "18-19?" Tell them to pick one. Just don't be serious, make it fun. Sometimes I never tell them! (Or I tell them I am 10-20 years older than I am.)
/r/seduction15/10/13 09:21 PM
1

So she's the kind of woman who will want to wait until marriage to have sex, and will then get pregnant right away. I've met those women. They are scary. You better believe they are sweet, they are completely immature and ignorant of the way the world works. It's like being with a little kid ... completely vapid. Run while you still can.
/r/seduction15/10/13 06:55 PM
2

I'm 6' 4" and this is a non-issue. Besides, your height, is there something else that could be going on? Tattoos? Gun on your belt? Scary looking clothes? A bad case of BO? In general I've found women are into tall guys, but you have to do your part to also look friendly, approachable, and so forth.
/r/seduction13/10/13 10:24 PM
1

Tell her "If you're ever single, look me up." Then drop her entirely and go date other women. If you hover around her ... you're a fuck.
/r/seduction13/10/13 06:05 PM
3

Why do you need to "get through to her"? Have you asked her on a date?
/r/seduction13/10/13 06:02 PM
1

By allowing her to treat you like that, it gives her complete control. In addition, it sure as well doesn't allow you to grow and become a better person. You can either call her out and tell her she's being immature and rude, and if she does it again she's gone (although why you're messing with an ex is beyond me), or get rid of her now. Any time you let someone shit all over you it proves to them that you are shit. Why do people allow this? I'd tell her to her face she's a shitty bitch and to G…
/r/seduction13/10/13 02:25 PM
2

Are you retarded or something?
/r/seduction12/10/13 04:41 PM
-2

I've been with about 25 women, never used a condom, and - ironically - my first GF gave me an STD because she was a lying, cheating whore. I may be off a little here, but I recall that if a man has heterosexual intercourse with a woman and she has AIDS, you have a 1 in 25 chance of also contracting AIDS. Other STDs are not so hard to catch, but many can be cured. But herpes ... no, I don't want to catch that one.
/r/seduction11/10/13 11:35 PM
2

It is good that you are asking for advice. This means you know you can change and fix this. Have you read the book No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Glover? If not, go buy it. And search Reddit for the guy who just posted about how great it is, and all the other guys who mention it all the time.
/r/seduction11/10/13 11:23 PM
2

And this is why I recommend that book to so many young guys who are struggling to "get off the ground" so to speak. Spread the word, spread the word.
/r/seduction11/10/13 11:14 PM
2

Don't date women who live more than 15 minutes away from you, that's what you do. If you have to drive past a million other women to see this woman ... you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:34 PM
2

That was what I figured ... :)
/r/seduction11/10/13 12:26 PM
1

I think you're right. I see tease and banter as part of the game, but there is so much more to it! (At least for me... maybe I'm doing it wrong? Haha)
/r/seduction11/10/13 12:26 PM
1

As everyone else has said, this is your fear controlling you. Either that or you are gay! If you cannot find a woman who looks decent enough to talk to, you need to remember that looks fade. If your standards are so high that a woman has to look a certain way forever ... you're going to be alone for a long, long time. Personality often matters a lot more than looks in a long term relationship. If you're just looking to get laid, lower your standards ... and turn off the lights.
/r/seduction11/10/13 02:37 AM
0

Oh yeah, friends while she had a BF? Rookie move. No big deal, just learn from it. It makes you look like you are stuck on her and other woman DO notice. It's better to be single. Besides, you can only date single women. Ignore the taken women (or, in this case, "emotionally" taken...) and you will be a lot more successful! And you're very welcome, I wish you all the best. You may want to check out David DeAngelo and his "Double Your Dating" book. It's a good place to start.
/r/seduction11/10/13 02:25 AM
1

Right - but it all depends on the situation and what the expected outcome is. I always tease and banter, but I usually only game when it's a one-night deal. For long term relations, you are absolutely right - personality is crucial. And for the record, I have stopped doing the one night stand stuff, and prefer more long term friends. Personality counts!
/r/seduction11/10/13 02:08 AM
2

This is a very subjective issue. Based on what you've told me you've done with her, then yes - I agree - but not because it's too fast for her. It's because you are not the right man. Simply put, if her ideal man (and I mean her life long idea of Mr. Right) came along, you better believe she'd pull her act together, be in a great mood, and date him (assuming he asked, and maybe even if not ... she'd ask him). I've met these women, and I've both been led on (as I think you are going through) or d…
/r/seduction11/10/13 02:04 AM
1

You are absolutely correct, but that's more of a long term issue. If you don't care because you're not going to see each other the next day ... people can be very superficial and get along with great intimacy.
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:56 AM
1

She's giving you a hint - I don't need a man means you are pushing your luck. Drop her altogether. And those little things are (nothing personal here...) weak and a turn off to her. If you want to get with women, you have to be honest and not "sneaky" like it sounds like you are being with her. You ask her on a date from the start, or recognize a disaster and stay away. Your goal should ALWAYS be to find out if she will date you in less than a week. I can do it in less than 10 minutes. If you sp…
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:15 AM
1

I suppose I should clarify - for a one night stand. And no, if we both just want to get laid, as long as we both get along for the evening, what more matters?
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:09 AM
2

A few things come to mind: If she just got out of a relationship, that can be more difficult to work with if she is still not over her ex. If she talks about him at all, or says she misses him, I'd recommend you just get outta there. You don't want to be her therapist, that's a boyfriend killing mistake. I am curious by what you mean when you say you've been doing little things here and there ... Regardless, it sounds like you need to work on your confidence more. If you were confident, fun, fli…
/r/seduction10/10/13 10:48 PM
1

I'm glad to hear it. You're off to a good start, especially so young!
/r/seduction10/10/13 09:58 PM
2

How does that work for you?
/r/seduction10/10/13 09:48 PM
1

Unless you know otherwise, she could be working, in a class, eating a meal, doing something with friends, watching TV or a movie, or even driving. Relax a little, people have lives.
/r/seduction10/10/13 09:47 PM
13

Yes. Hugely different. The whole point of dating is to make your intentions clear (you find her attractive sexually) AND you want to get to know her as more than friends. This says you are sexually mature and active, which shows confidence and honesty. Starting out as friends says you do NOT find her sexually attractive (or you are gay, a wimp, thing she's stupid, or otherwise beneath you) and she will then put you into the "non-sexual" category of friends. In a way, you are the child to the mot…
/r/seduction10/10/13 09:33 PM
1

IMO - Personality doesn't matter much for pick ups, but I have turned down a few women because they were too talkative, too boring, or creeped me out. And I mean overboard. Normally, if I am just looking to get laid, I look for a woman who wants to play. It's pretty simple.
/r/seduction10/10/13 09:30 PM
1

Oh, right! That makes a lot more sense! Haha
/r/seduction10/10/13 07:12 PM
3

You are very welcome, I am sure you will be pleased. And don't worry if some stuff doesn't make sense. You will figure it out later. And the stuff that seems backwards? Remember, what you are doing right now is backwards, so the "backwards" stuff is often actually the RIGHT way to do things. Give them a try for yourself and see what happens. When I realized all the "backwards" advice that I said "I'd never do that!" to ... was the right advice ... things got SO much better. Good luck! Keep us po…
/r/seduction10/10/13 05:48 PM
1

as long as her personality is bearable I don't waste my time on women like that any more. Besides, if you're hanging out with them and a better woman comes along, you may not meet her and are missing out. I'd rather be single than with someone who isn't amazing in every way.
/r/seduction10/10/13 02:27 PM
1

I saw that and wanted to make sure you guys saw that. Here is a guy who is drunk, but being himself and having a good time. He is making jokes, teasing women, and generally being himself (presumably). The first few women, well, they don't like it. They don't play along, they don't have a sense of humor, and they clearly are not fun women. And he gets rid of them QUICKLY. And he keeps on going, and finding other women. Then he exchanges phone numbers and makes his intentions clear. What he did wa…
/r/seduction09/10/13 10:35 PM
1

I have not read Models, but I keep hearing it lately so I may have to pick it up. I actually made up the "date to disqualify" motto on my own, but the concept was born out of Doc Love's advice and his book "The System". Doc Love really had some of the best "after you've been a PUA and want a better quality woman" advice that I could find. Oddly, it is aimed at beginners, but should really be considered by pros in my humble opinion. It took me from scoring with so-so quality women to being so pic…
/r/seduction09/10/13 07:50 PM
2

I agree, this is one I have read and recommend frequently. It does get a little goofy at the end, but I'll let it slide.
/r/seduction09/10/13 06:44 PM
1

That is woman speak for "No." Which means she is not really your friend, now, is she?
/r/seduction09/10/13 06:36 PM
21

Yeah, feeling weird is your brain saying "THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN WRONG .... FIX IT!" You have pretty much described what I think is what many guys struggle with. You've been raised by a woman ... and made to be subservient to women. You're been told to act like a child. And guess what? Adult women do not like the so-called adult "man-child". They want a father figure, a husband figure, a guy who can tell her "No" but be polite and calm about it. Women HATE when a guy puts his head down, like a ki…
/r/seduction09/10/13 06:04 PM
1

David DeAngelo ... cocky & funny ... yeah, it works great IF they know it's a joke. You HAVE to be sure about that. Example: Took my Great Danes into the pet store, female employee says "Hey, what kind of dogs are those?" and I replied "You work HERE and don't know what kind of dogs they are?" and laughed. From there we had many great dates ...
/r/seduction09/10/13 03:33 PM
2

That's okay, we're just busting on you. :)
/r/seduction09/10/13 01:20 PM
8

Serious questions: What was your relationship like with your mother, and who predominantly raised you - your mother or father?
/r/seduction09/10/13 12:26 PM
1

Yup! Just goes to show ... some people don't read everything. :(
/r/seduction09/10/13 12:23 PM
1

Exactly. :)
/r/seduction08/10/13 07:38 PM
1

I think you kind of missed his point ... There's no doubt that if a girl ACTUALLY likes you, you don't have to do any of this shit. And you shouldn't either; I'm big on keeping it honest. and... Why do you think it works?
/r/seduction08/10/13 06:06 PM
1

I like to think there is a much deeper dynamic at work here. Making a woman feel insecure, or attempting to, is a bad technique and completely misses the point. I say this because I am interpreting your post to say "Insulting women works". (If I am wrong, please clarify.) In my opinion, what works is to stop being the guy who kisses her ass and lets her get away with anything she wants. It's calling her bluff. It's detecting the truth in the situation and, in a KIND and MATURE way, bringing it u…
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:57 PM
2

Is it possible to scare off a girl by going to get dinner too soon vs keeping another casual drinks date? My thinking on this, and this really is only valid it terms of dating and not "pick ups", is that YOU should be trying to make HER prove to you that she is quality. She has to EARN the right to get to the expensive date (dinner). Therefore, drinks are purposely cheap. It weeds out women who are trying to use you for - you guessed it - a free meal, a free night out, a free pass to use your wa…
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:31 PM
2

Decide on something clever to say. In a normal voice and normal pace, say it, even if people are talking over you. Do nothing. When people ask "What did you say?" reply with "Too late, you missed it, maybe next time." After you do this a few time, and again assuming what you say is smart, people will start to pay attention and stop when YOU talk because they know you're saying something of high quality. It's a very interesting phenomenon.
/r/seduction08/10/13 03:19 PM
3

Buddy, I honestly think you did everything right. I'd put this squarely on the ladies here. They were not interested enough, but that's fine. Move on and keep doing exactly what you have been doing. Don't waste any more time or effort on them unless they contact you, at which point you bust on them playfully about being a slacker and "not wasting my time, are you?" My only suggestion would be drinks for date #2 and not dinner. And for reference, this is the first time I've ever told anyone they …
/r/seduction08/10/13 03:16 PM
2

Perspective: This was not a rejection, this was a truth-seeking mission and you won. In the small amount of (probably) 5 minutes of work, you made it clear that you found her attractive, you complimented her, you asked her for her phone number, and - most importantly - you found out that she was not interested and you can stop spending any more time on her. You are now free to move on to the next woman, not stuck in paralysis or fear for days, weeks, or months, not getting that truth.
/r/seduction08/10/13 03:01 PM
1

You're welcome, I am glad you enjoyed it.
/r/seduction08/10/13 12:10 PM
0

Curses! My clever plot has failed!
/r/seduction08/10/13 12:48 AM
0

Ok, send me a pic, I'll photoshop in a cucumber somewhere, and then I'll tell all my friends you were my ex and I dumped you because of the cucumber fetish. Then no guy will want your pic out of shame and embarrassment. Does that help?
/r/seduction07/10/13 10:23 PM
2

I've never had much luck with milfs when I was younger, but sounds like you had fun. Congrats for making a move!
/r/seduction07/10/13 08:16 PM
10

I don't think it's your follow up, but your approach. Based on your comments about your behavior it sounds to me that these women are seeing your behavior as "player-ish" and realizing you're not genuine in your intentions (you just want to get laid). It sounds like you are moving WAY too fast. To me (and I may be wrong, I've never seen what you do and you don't give a ton of details) you are using a "night club" approach. What you are doing would work great in a club, bar, etc., and would end u…
/r/seduction07/10/13 07:32 PM
1

Whatever you do, don't mention your ex to new women. While I am sure you know this ... I just gotta say it!
/r/seduction07/10/13 06:59 PM
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I agree. Virgins and inexperienced women have always been a huge buzz kill for me. I am FAR more happy with a woman who is comfortable with her body, knows what she likes, knows her limits, and is actually GOOD in bed. You know, who knows how to please you also and isn't afraid to do it.
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:20 PM
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What kind of photos are you posting?! Based on your username ... you may want to rethink them! ;)
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:03 PM
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Gotcha. Just a thought - any time you spend with her may be dragging you down, and if other women think you are still stuck on her they will pick up on it and avoid you. If you can improve yourself and not get "stuck" in your "old self" then more power to you. But having to go back to her and clear the air? Very beta in my opinion. Personally, I always advocate a clean break from people who make you have bad habits. If you only want FWB, ignore her until you want her to come over.
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:02 PM
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Coffee date If disgusting bad breath is your idea of okay when kissing? invite her to your apartment for a movie night First date? Sends the signal that she's only a fuck. dinner Says you are "buying" her time. rock climbing Sure, if you talked to her and she said she would love to try it. invite her to a party you're going to? Only if you want her to get hit on by other guys My best first dates have always been for drinks at small, quiet (read: dead but cozy) bars. Tell her "Let's go out, and I…
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:00 PM
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Why bother meeting her? Just cut her off. THAT is taking control of yourself and the situation. Let her find out when she calls and asks you to be her taxi driver ... and you don't answer because you're out having fun with your friends!
/r/seduction07/10/13 02:45 PM
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I humbly must disagree. Which is a more true statement: A woman always has her phone on her A woman always has Facebook notifications on her phone A woman is always sitting in front of her computer at the Facebook site? In my experience, people in general will always have their phone on them. And it is a FAR more "telling" device. If they don't answer ... they ignored you. If they don't call back, ignored you. If it doesn't ring at all, it is turned off. Facebook? For all you know she never chec…
/r/seduction06/10/13 09:49 PM
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If she's really your find, and she brings it up, you then say "Hey, if you're such a good friend, hook me up with one of your single friends." If she doesn't then she's not really a friend, is she? BTW, this is now a good time to use her for social proof, or get rid of her and find a woman who IS into you instead. Focus your energy, don't get scattered. :)
/r/seduction06/10/13 07:03 PM
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Start reading books. I recommend, in no particular order: Double Your Dating, by David DeAngelo. No More Mr. Nice Guy, by Dr. Glover The Way of the Superior Man, by David Deida (sp?) And if you have $100, and are looking for high quality women (long term, not just a fuck) then The System aka The Dating Dictionary by Doc Love. You can find Torrents, too, but I honestly think it's worth every penny to own this book.
/r/seduction06/10/13 06:58 PM
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Great list! But ... number 3 doesn't work for me, but I think it's really just an age issue. This is probably good for younger women, (teens and early 20's) but older women ... not so much. I have always found getting a phone number is a good idea because it means you've made such a good impression that she is allowing you to have her personal information, and usually wants you to call her. (Maybe not so much if you're overly-gaming her and she knows it - so be genuine!) My #1 goal has always be…
/r/seduction06/10/13 06:50 PM
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Don't you mean #3?
/r/seduction06/10/13 06:47 PM
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If you have nothing in common, stop wasting your time. However, if you have never talked to her, are you really sure you have nothing in common? Break the ice, tell her something like "Hey, let's get this over with. Go on a date with me, Tuesday at 8 at Joe's grille, we'll have a drink, talk, realize we're not right for each other, and can have a laugh about it. Yeah?" Then do it - ask about what she likes, if she likes something and you do too, that's a connection. If she doesn't, TEASE HER, FL…
/r/seduction06/10/13 03:01 PM
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Damn straight. Tell her something like "Hey, we're friends, right? Hook me up with some of your single friends." If she says no, or doesn't, then she's not even your friend. On another topic, taking 3 weeks is taking too long, in my opinion. When I meet a woman, I make small talk, see if there is any connection, and if there is I get her number, wait a few days, and then ask her on a date. I spend no more than an hour doing all of this. If she agrees, great. If she makes an excuse to not go on t…
/r/seduction06/10/13 02:37 PM
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I missed the part about him being in New Zealand. You sir are correct, cultural differences do make a significant difference. What I was saying works very well in the US, but I have no experience elsewhere so ... I guess my advice was bad advice! Sorry!
/r/seduction06/10/13 01:01 PM
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If that works for you, then yes - by all means use "Hang out". However, at some point some other guy will come along and ask her on a date and you'll get flaked on.
/r/seduction06/10/13 03:30 AM
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You've just stumbled on Doc Love's magic advice - be challenging. Your lack of response is a major difference from other guys, so you better believe she's going to chase you. I don't know anything about her, but what it sounds like to me is that she is used to wussy guys falling all over her, and then - of course - she figures out they are desperate and pathetic. You're independent, self confident, clever, and - obviously - not at her beck and call (supplicating to her). You're the diamond she's…
/r/seduction05/10/13 07:35 PM
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Hm, That sounds to me that you're well on the way to friendzone, with the phrase "Hang out"... As mentioned already, ask her on a date. USE the word "Date". Have a plan! Tell her something like: "Hey, I'd like to get to know you better. Let's go on a date, Tuesday, 8:00 at Clyde's bar and grille. I'll buy you a drink." Then just shut up and see what she says. She's either going to accept, or - if she is not interested - she will make an excuse to not be alone with you. It's pretty simple, IMO. G…
/r/seduction05/10/13 07:28 PM
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Agreed. I always wonder why no one mentions the most glaring issue that I saw - Mystery would meet the perfect woman ... but she would get tired of his "canned" routines and dump him. He would spiral into a major depression. He never progressed past pickups, and thus not being able to have a quality long term relationship was the killer. Guys who are missing the point if they don't realize that they have to be able to do more than just pick up women - you also have to be able to be normal and ke…
/r/seduction05/10/13 02:42 PM
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Important question - have you asked her on a date?
/r/seduction05/10/13 02:34 PM
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My ski instructor had another version: If you're not falling down, you're not trying hard enough. His point was you have to make mistakes, learn from them, then get back up and keep trying.
/r/seduction05/10/13 11:55 AM
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My wife is bisexual, and the easiest way we pick up women is to go to a bar and have some drinks. She picks someone she thinks is attractive, and I send her over to say hello. A few more drinks and it's almost always a done deal. While I am an above average PUA, my wife is below average and really has no skills in picking up women other than a few key phrases like "You're really pretty" and "I really like you" said at appropriate times. Be sociable, be friendly, and be close. Things happen.
/r/seduction05/10/13 01:52 AM
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Seems to me this is your only question? I'd like some input on the bf thing. Should I just have asked straight up, since she hasn't mentioned anything? What will it hurt? If she's single, then you can say "Great, now I can ask you on a date." If she says she is not, then you can say any number of things to see how happy she is. I've met plenty of women who were emotionally broken up, so all it took was a few words to start dating them. If you "hang out" with her and don't know if she has a boyfr…
/r/seduction05/10/13 01:26 AM
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Thank you for the clarification on details. Things make a lot more sense now. Devil's advocate / food for thought (and, as always, this is just my opinion, so I could be wrong): (1) FOB Asian, yes. American Asian ... not so much. I've found that women of all cultures tend to behave the same way. The American Asian women I've dealt with have been very "normal". Your experiences may vary. I would suggest you don't psych yourself out and perhaps "over do it" because of a perceived cultural differen…
/r/seduction04/10/13 01:49 PM
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Go to a different restaurant.
/r/seduction04/10/13 01:42 AM
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In addition to what puaCurveBall said, I'd like to add a few things: You talked to her for a few minutes, but the only thing you liked about her was her "killer body". Did you get to know her at all, as a person? If no, then you know what? You blew it. Women hate that shit. If you want a good number, you need to do more than act like a 5 year old who learned a goofy trick. You have to talk to her like a real human being, make quality small talk, ask her qualifying questions, and determine if the…
/r/seduction04/10/13 01:24 AM
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Pretty much this.
/r/seduction04/10/13 12:56 AM
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You have guts, that is for sure. I gave up on cold approaches on the street, as they are incredibly difficult. You want to improve your game? Get off the street and into the stores. You can chat with employees and customers a LOT easier. You can ask about products ("Hey, do you think this would look good on me?") or pretend you are buying a gift for a friend ("I need a gift for my buddies GF, what are popular things for a woman aged [whatever]?") From there, you can flirt, tease, etc., and then …
/r/seduction03/10/13 07:36 PM
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Sometimes, he seemed distanced. Sounds like a guilty conscience to me. But what do I know? After not seeing my woman for a while I know I'd be very happy to see her if I had been faithful ... I wonder what your mutual friend would say about that "hanging out" now that you are broken up? Maybe there is more s/he left out? Just for science's sake I would be curious, that's all. Following your advice, I wrote a list of characteristics I want in a man. To be fair, the list was half my ideas, and hal…
/r/seduction03/10/13 07:03 PM
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Aw, you got my hopes up ... and then you deleted it! haha. That's cool, as long as you're good to go. :)
/r/seduction03/10/13 12:24 PM
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This is a nice update, thanks. Can you speak about your LDR more? How long were you together before the LDR, and how long after? And where did he go - college? I ask simply because my experience has been that LDR's are "beginner" relationships, are incredibly difficult to maintain, and usually fail unless the two parties are very committed and it's only temporary (i.e., long term marriage and short term job relocation). It sounds like he was pretty sane, so that is good - at least you're not pic…
/r/seduction02/10/13 05:30 PM
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Speaking from experience ... if he has any game, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. My experience was a very good time. I wish I could have stayed longer!
/r/seduction02/10/13 03:25 PM
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This is very, very true. And after a while, they want more. So much more! :)
/r/seduction02/10/13 03:24 PM
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I went to a small, liberal arts Catholic school. Getting laid is easy. Incredibly easy. Just be prepared to offer anal sex instead of vaginal to "protect her virginity". Yes, really. Anyway, I had to take things slower, I was never able to score in under a week, but after that ... man, Catholic girls are HORNY. Whatever you do, don't "kiss and tell". If you get a bad reputation ... either of you or about her ... it gets around quickly.
/r/seduction02/10/13 03:22 PM
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Two things come to mind: "Pretty girl syndrome". There are plenty of very attractive women out there who are not approached very often because of guys thinking like you do. I've met plenty of women who say (and believe) that they've never been hit on. (The reality is, of course, they have, but not in a way that they realized it because the guy probably never asked them on a date.) "Date to disqualify". When you meet a woman, make small talk and get to know her a little if you can. When you do, y…
/r/seduction02/10/13 02:31 PM
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TL;DR; "You are the prize" is my way of saying all that. Be a great man and women will be attracted to you. It helps to well rounded in many aspects of your life - personality, social skills, finances, recreation, work ethic, and so forth. Any guy with a few great lines can pick up a great looking woman, but only a mature man can keep that woman interested for more than a few weeks or months.
/r/seduction02/10/13 02:05 PM
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Do you think this is your way of screening for woman who are open and honest with you, and you're worried that a woman who doesn't have problems is lying to you (by omission) and really has something to hide?
/r/seduction02/10/13 11:48 AM
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What's an example of an ideal woman? What kind of problems does she need to have, and what do you get out of it? And is this for short term or long term relationships? And why are you worried about this? Sorry to sound so nosy, I am just trying to figure this out. See, you have lots of problems, and I really like guys with problems ... (Just kidding!)
/r/seduction01/10/13 09:45 PM
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I've done that, and it can go both ways. Things are usually fine until she finds a boyfriend, or gets married. Then suddenly you are a liability, and she may not want you around, or may be worried you're going to bring it up. Therefore, if you do that, be sure she knows you don't talk about your private life ... or hers .... ever. On the other hand, I've had women refuse to talk to me ever again. So ... you never know. Personally, I never regretted it either way.
/r/seduction01/10/13 06:30 PM
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What's your self esteem & self confidence like? What is the attraction, is there a "type" you like? Would you say you are interested in these women so you can "save" them, and then they will like you, and otherwise you have nothing to offer? Or are you looking for someone who is subordinate and you can take advantage of? Or perhaps someone who is more kinky (or not) due to past abuse, so you can find someone who is into a particular kink that you enjoy?
/r/seduction01/10/13 06:05 PM
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EDIT: Wow, thanks for the Gold for this comment! I promise not to spend it all today. I'll wait 'til Friday. :) Ok, now this is making more sense. When you asked her out, did you tell her it was a date? Did you say something like "I'd like to take you on a date" using the word "date"? If not, she probably thinks this is just a friend activity, and you're "hanging out". To be successful at dating and asking women out, you have to make your intentions clear. Use the word "date" and you must have a…
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:10 PM
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IMPORTANT QUESTION: What are your plans? Dinner? Movie? Party? I am assuming you offered to take her out somewhere that would be conducive to both of them coming. That is a mistake in my opinion. My best first dates have been at a table for two at a bar. (Side note: If you DID offer to take her out for drinks only, and you know they both drink, and there's a chance they both want to screw you, THEN you should accept. If the friend is a non-drinker, ugly, a guy ... whatever ... then pass.) Tell h…
/r/seduction01/10/13 01:10 PM
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Think about it like this - when you are asking lots of questions, you should be asking about things that could potentially show you also have a similar interest (or not) as a way to build closeness. For example, if you ask a woman if she prefers to read books or watch TV, and she says books, and you like books, then you can say something like "Hey, so do I! What books have you read lately?" OR "Have you read [title]? I thought it was great!" You can find out about anything she likes and then see…
/r/seduction30/09/13 07:11 PM
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Use it to your advantage. For a while in college, some jerk was spreading a rumor that I was gay. I didn't deny it, and proceeded to get women left and right because they were curious to "find out the truth".
/r/seduction30/09/13 02:51 PM
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Learning, yes. Maintaining is also crucial. You cannot slip back into being passive. As mentioned, read the book No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Glover. Another book which helped me transition from "game" to "keeper" is The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida (sp?). There are also lots of other books out there that focus on maintaining the relationship, and I would suggest you check Amazon and see if you can find some that fit your specific needs.
/r/seduction30/09/13 12:08 PM
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You're welcome. I found once I got a few chapters in ... I could swear he wrote the book by reading my mind. It was creepy accurate. I hope that is the same for you.
/r/seduction30/09/13 12:02 PM
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I like to reframe "rejection". There really is no such thing, in my opinion. If you ask her on a date, make your intentions clear, and basically don't waste weeks or months trying to find out if she likes you or not, finding out the answer is a win. Finding out the truth as fast as possible is so helpful. If she doesn't want to date you, then you have quickly determined that you and she have no chemistry, and you've won by being able to move on to another woman. You only lose in these situations…
/r/seduction30/09/13 11:59 AM
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Thank you. I guess my sarcasm detector is borked.
/r/seduction30/09/13 11:56 AM
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Full disclosure: I am biased against using text messages for several reasons - You cannot get a real time response, you cannot hear the person's response (taking too long) or judge their response (sounding bored or excited), and people communicate about 90% with body language, you cannot even tell what she is doing (she could be hanging out with some other guy). It's also pretty tricky to build chemistry with a woman over text/email. Ok, you get it, I'm done. So ... I don't like what you texted …
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:49 PM
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Agreed.
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:08 PM
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What exactly did you text her? A woman with a high interest level in a guy is never "busy". And considering women and their phones are rarely separated, this lack of reply could be taken as a hint that she's not interested. Let's hope that's not the case.
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:07 PM
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And ... why not? Just because you say so? I welcome criticism, but you should at least post a better suggestion or reasons why not. :|
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:04 PM
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Ask yourself this: Would asking her to study together be something you could ask a guy friend to do, and could be construed as something "friends" could do? Yes? Then you're going to confuse her and she's probably going to respond by friendzoning you. Now, would asking her on a date, using the word "date", be something you could ask a male friend to do, or be construed as a "friend" activity? No? You mean it makes your intentions clear? As in, you are not being deceptive in the reason why you wa…
/r/seduction29/09/13 05:09 PM
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Most women don't know what make/model a car is, unless it's something incredibly exotic (Ferrari, Porsche, etc.). The more noticeable thing to them is if a car that is clean and safe.
/r/seduction29/09/13 02:49 PM
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I think you're right. It's just hard to tell with so few "real" details. My biggest concern is the fact that he has not even asked her on a date. Knowing her for "some time" followed up by this "damsel in distress" behavior has been - for me - a textbook example of getting friendzoned. Now, had he asked her out, and been dating, this would be a non-issue, he'd just need to be a gentleman and let her know we all have a history.
/r/seduction28/09/13 09:39 PM
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If you've never had a woman suddenly act "crazy" on you, then you have been quite lucky (or you are forgetful, or lying!) There are plenty of women who cannot tell you they want you to go away, so they start to act crazy, rude, cheat on you, or any number of other "red flag" behaviors. My point is not that it's bad to open up to people, but is she acting crazy? It's one thing to say "Hey, I had a rough childhood", and it's entirely another thing to say something like "I have cheated on all my ex…
/r/seduction28/09/13 09:04 PM
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It sounds like to me she's telling you to either back off (as in, she is saying "Hey, I am broken, go away" or she is making an excuse to get you to go away because you have missed some other hints she been giving) ... OR ... she is testing you. The test, if it is that, is if you fall into "friend" mode (read: you try to play therapist with her and get overly serious). I don't know when she told you this, but if it's been more than a few minutes it probably doesn't matter any more. You need to d…
/r/seduction28/09/13 07:46 PM
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What is the back story on this? Did you just meet her? Are you dating? Have you asked her out yet? How bad is this "story", and does she make it sound like it is impacting her current life? This is VERY important to know and should be analyzed before pressing forward.
/r/seduction28/09/13 07:31 PM
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What do you do? What I did, Mr. Weak Chin reporting in, was to grow a goatee. The other thing for you to think about is that your face looks vastly different when not in profile. When you look straight on, it probably looks like anybody else. And frankly, look around. Almost all guys have a weak chin. ALL guys! Yeah, yeah, I know not all guys. My cousin is an Adonis among men. Chisled jaw, tall and muscular with dark hair, incredible fucking personality, and women fall all over him. I hated him!…
/r/seduction28/09/13 02:43 PM
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My "and" just meant to address the rest of my original post, and to see if you had any thoughts on those statements. Moreso to the point, do you think I am on the right track, and if not, what did I miss? Just saying you're insecure isn't really enough for anyone to be able to say "Yes, that's your problem." What is most important is for you to think about your insecurity, and what behaviors manifested as a result, and the potential for being the cause of the end of the relationship. Were they g…
/r/seduction28/09/13 02:17 PM
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Message her, ask her how she is doing, and make a little small talk. If there is any chemistry, ask for her phone number. (That's the goal). Then tell her you'll call her and ask her on a date. Then ... do it!
/r/seduction28/09/13 01:33 AM
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Make some MALE friends. Make a social network. Work on building quality relationships with other guys. Then you can branch out to women.
/r/seduction28/09/13 01:21 AM
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I think the original post has some GREAT books. No More Mr. Nice Guy was great for a passive guy like I used to be, a long, long time ago. One of the most valuable books for me was The Dating Dictionary, aka the System, by Doc love (DocLove.com). It's $100, and is horribly written, horribly organized, and at first read is complete crap. However, if you read it twice, between reading it the first time and second time, when you go out and interact with women, suddenly points from the book will pop…
/r/seduction28/09/13 01:14 AM
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That article has some good points, but I'd say it crosses the line when you order her food for her. If he were to back up a step and change that to the "Where do you want to go to eat?" conversation, he'd be spot on.
/r/seduction28/09/13 01:08 AM
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And?
/r/seduction27/09/13 09:06 PM
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This is simple. You're at work, pull the "I'm uncomfortable" card. Be polite, but tell her something like "Hey Sally, you're a really nice woman, but your behavior towards me makes me feel uncomfortable. It's not professional, and I wouldn't want anyone at the office to think something personal is going on. I'm sure you understand, right?" If she does not immediately back down to a professional level, consider mentioning it to HR. Don't screw this up and get her fired, obviously. The issue here …
/r/seduction27/09/13 04:37 PM
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God, kiss of death right there, the same thing happened to me. Want some suggestions on books which helped me? Good, here they are! :) No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Glover. Just read it. If it does not describe you to a "T" it will be the first guy I've heard that from. I've recommended it to dozens of guys and they all tell me it's like their own personal instruction manual. And it's creepy accurate. The Dating Dictionary, aka The System, by Doc Love. Note, this book is $100, horribly written, ho…
/r/seduction27/09/13 01:59 AM
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Ah, it's nice to see you're taking my advice. Haha.
/r/seduction27/09/13 01:50 AM
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Okay, interesting. I'm going to reply in a way that is designed to provoke you, but it's meant to provoke you into THINKING about your situation. Please don't take this personally, this is the only way I know how to get through to people. In addition, you've given us very little information to go with, so you won't get quality help until you can open up more about what actually happened. .... Ok, here's the problem. You're either dumb or dishonest - and you're clearly not dumb. Based on the comm…
/r/seduction27/09/13 01:44 AM
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The most important thing you can do is stop asking men for advice. None of us can tell you anything remotely useful because we literally use a different perspective. Only women can tell you what you need to know. If you really want to know the answer to your question, you should go make friends with that woman and watch what she does. You can only learn from a woman who actually does what you want to do, not from asking guys who have never done what you want (nor can we ever). It's not like we h…
/r/seduction26/09/13 11:39 PM
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There's only one reason why she flakes - because she is not interested in you. Why not all depends on what you did or failed to do. If she flakes, she's doing you a favor. Delete her number and move on.
/r/seduction26/09/13 11:35 PM
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What I do is remember that if you stop being yourself, and you stop flirting, teasing, hitting on her, being sexually attracted to her, and so forth ... some other guy will come along and do it for you. Really, the most important thing is to keep challenging her intellectually, emotionally, and so forth, in a FRIENDLY and KIND manner. Do new things. Anticipate when she needs extra care. Pay attention, dammit! ;) Becoming boring, predictable, complacent, etc., is the kiss of death.
/r/seduction26/09/13 12:35 AM
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The top three I think all guys should read: No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Glover - for guys who get friendzoned or walked all over by women. The Dating Dictionary, aka The System by Doc Love. Yes, it's $100. It is good for guys who want to learn how to pick a good woman and disqualify bad women. This book is poorly written and organized, but after reading it twice it's like a freakin' instruction manual on women. The Way of the Superior Man. More advanced, good for polishing off your overall self …
/r/seduction25/09/13 03:47 PM
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The solution is simple. You can only get relevant advice from people who are experienced in this scenario. Therefore, you should be seeking advice from: Lesbians Couples with bisexual women who swing Briefly, you need to find out how lesbians pick up on each other. It's VERY different than how guys do it. The approaches are a lot "softer". It's a lot less bold approaches and funny pick up lines, as it is non-verbal. If you can go to a lesbian bar and watch what happens, you will be very surprise…
/r/seduction25/09/13 02:19 PM
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No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Glover was a life changer. I've recommended it to many guys and they all agree. If you have any problems with avoiding conflict and getting "stuck" in relationships with women, or in any aspect of your life (work, friends, anger management, unmotivated) this book KNOWS you. It's creepy. The Way of the Superior Man is great, but I had to read it several times before I could fully comprehend some of the more complex concepts. And the one book that totally changed the wa…
/r/seduction24/09/13 01:30 AM
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This sounds like you're still in the game. Can you make some small talk with her and see if there is any chemistry (read: she doesn't walk away)? If so, tell her something like "Hey, you're pretty cool, give me your number and I'll call you so we can go on a date." Can you pull that off?
/r/seduction24/09/13 01:27 AM
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Have you asked her on a date?
/r/seduction24/09/13 01:23 AM
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It's been over ten years for me. I'll try to be brief. When I was younger, I was either miserable and single, painfully friendzoned, or stuck in a excruciating relationship with a woman who was walking all over me. After a failed marriage and financial meltdown caused by it, I started reading everything I could. I thought to myself "If you're so smart, why can't you figure women out?" So I figured I would learn to hit on women, get laid, and so forth. What happened was that I learned how to grow…
/r/seduction24/09/13 01:15 AM
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Not quite - that was literally how I learned how to talk to women. My first experiment ever.
/r/seduction24/09/13 12:37 AM
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You're right, but most of the stores I went into were smaller. And frankly you can always end up in the women's section and tell her you're looking for a gift for a friend/sister/ex or whatever you come up with. Situational yes, but really the point is more so to get out there, talk to women and men (yes, men), and get comfortable doing it. Once you get comfortable just being sociable, the rest comes very easily. So yeah, in a grocery store, you can always ask for an opinion on product X vs Y or…
/r/seduction24/09/13 12:36 AM
1

Simplify this shit. Just say "Hi" to EVERY WOMAN you see. Look them in the eyes. Smile. And keep walking. Do that for a few weeks. You will be amazed at how many women will smile and say hi back. Great way to get started.
/r/seduction23/09/13 08:33 PM
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For female employees, it's simple. Just ask her for some advice on what to get as a gift for your friend. Tease, joke, flirt, and go from there. If you screw up, recognize it, leave, and go next door to the next shop and try again. I loved big malls for this. Other patrons depends on the shop. Clothing shop? Ask her which tie/shirt/jeans she thinks look better. Tell her something like "You have good style, which of these do you think works best?" Bust on her if she picks something ratty looking.…
/r/seduction23/09/13 08:31 PM
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When I was in college, I'd just say hi to a woman I wanted to meet - and if I knew her name, I would call her by name. I did this every time I saw her. After about the third time, she'd know my name, and say hi back. That can be a simple boost in confidence. After that, you should be able to approach women more easily. Start out by making small talk. Make a joke, tease her about something you both know about (something happened in class perhaps?) See if she responds and doesn't walk away. If so,…
/r/seduction23/09/13 08:17 PM
1

Is this your issue? I'm worried I'm ruining longer-term relationships with the short-term ideas I'm learning here And what do you mean, exactly? Do you mean long term social contacts/friends, or do you mean long term high quality relationships with a single woman (i.e., dating, marriage)?
/r/seduction23/09/13 05:21 PM
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Yeah, that is a good point. This is as much her decision to hook up as yours. You know - "It takes two to tango". I don't think the OP needs to take the brunt of any issues this woman caused.
/r/seduction23/09/13 05:17 PM
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I'm really unsure whether she's interested There is only one way to find out. Ask her on another date, and this time start where you left off (kiss opener). Can you invite her to your place to watch a movie? Take it from there. Either she'll accept or she will make an excuse. The excuse means you're done.
/r/seduction23/09/13 05:03 PM
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Nicely done. Tip: she begins commenting on how hot the room is and I say "Yeah, well I did just walk in to the room you know" ;)
/r/seduction23/09/13 04:57 PM
1

There's always the 1% chance she is flirting. Flirt back. I've met many women who are working at the time and gave IOI's.
/r/seduction23/09/13 04:48 PM
1

Why make the date so long? Get drinks, if she is into you, get more drinks, escalate, kino, go back to your place. Drinks.
/r/seduction23/09/13 04:25 PM
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If I understand this, she is his ex girlfriend, right? Why in the world would she call HIM and tell him what she does with other guys? And if she did this with some other guy, would she do the same? If not, she is probably doing this to make him jealous. She's playing him - and you. She has an agenda. She's a bad woman, and this is something to think about. I don't know your relationship with Dylan, but in general it pays to be honest. Don't deny it, because you did nothing wrong. Sure, it would…
/r/seduction23/09/13 03:45 PM
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Come on guys, you can do better than all this. I'm amazed no one has said this yet. Just be sure she's said she has a boyfriend or is "taken" or whatever, and he ignores her comments. Tell her to flirt back ask then the guy to buy her and "her friend" a round of drinks. He buys and gives her the drinks. She says thanks, and delivers YOU a free drink. The look on the guys face has always been priceless. I've gone to many a bar and had free drinks more than once.
/r/seduction22/09/13 12:33 PM
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Exactly. SO exactly. Friendzone usually is a rejection by a woman who is too kind to tell you to get lost.
/r/seduction21/09/13 08:24 PM
1

Pretty much. Asking a woman out is what separates the men from the boys. And in the world of women, that is a HUGE distinction.
/r/seduction21/09/13 05:38 PM
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there should be no reason to ask her if she has a bf. That gives her the same escape avenue as your solid point mentioned in #2. "How do you KNOW she is in a relationship"- exactly why you don't ask. Even if she is, maybe she's in a shitty one and is looking to move on. No reason? I gotta respectfully disagree with you on this one. Sure there is a reason. If you found out she's dating some guy, you can adjust how much effort your want to put into the whole situation. Typically, I'll ask her some…
/r/seduction21/09/13 05:36 PM
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Ah, I understand. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/seduction21/09/13 02:12 PM
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I'll put this as simply as I can: If you don't ask a woman out on a date within a relatively short time of meeting her, you are putting yourself in friend zone with her. You have to make your intentions clear by having the confidence to ask her out. If she doesn't want to date you, then YOU can friendzone HER. And yes, you can hook up with female friends, but the problem many women have with this is they see you as being dishonest if that was your only intention from the start.
/r/seduction21/09/13 01:01 PM
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My thoughts: You assume she is in a relationship. Did you ask her before you got her number? If not, you failed right there. Ask before getting numbers. How do you KNOW she is in a relationship? Some women put that up to fend off idiot guys. And they sometimes wear fake rings! Texting the same DAY is boring, predictable, and desperate. Unless she has replied ... which I assume did not happen by now ... you have done a nice study on the effects of texting too soon. Never text or call right away. …
/r/seduction21/09/13 01:25 AM
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Be patient young man! Wait until Monday afternoon. :) Let her have her weekend to wonder what fun things you are doing and why you are not calling her. It's called being mysterious. Women love a challenge. Don't be too quick, too easy, or too predictable. Women hate that!
/r/seduction21/09/13 01:18 AM
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I'll preface this with saying I have no experience with a long weekend event like this... you may have to make your best decision on your own. :) So, I've been thinking about this and I think you have a few options. The top two are to (a) ask her to drinks tonight [sorry for the late reply here!] or (b) wait until after the event and ask her on a "real" date, away from all the chaos. If I were you, I'd do the "real" date after the event. I would also try to avoid spending too much time with her …
/r/seduction21/09/13 01:16 AM
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Eh, I don't agree. I've always thought it comes across as needy. Very needy. And immature. But I'm an older guy, more established, more confident in my own skin. This whole "I gotta give her my number right away" mentality really comes across as desperate, in my humble opinion. At the very least, it could signal to a woman that you are checking to see if the number she gave you is real which would be an insult to her, and also signals desperation on your part. You can't wait a few days? Is she t…
/r/seduction20/09/13 09:27 PM
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Oh damn, a weekend long event? That changes things. How old are you - and do you know how old she is? Can you go to a bar?
/r/seduction20/09/13 09:17 PM
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The problem with "Nice" is how different genders perceive it. The word means something very different for men versus women. You may think it's "nice" to compliment a woman all the time, carry all her bags, buy her whatever she wants, do whatever she asks, and never talk about sex - and certainly never hit on her. In essence, he is doing anything she wants to "please" her. Almost always, the "Nice guy" is incredibly dishonest about his behaviors. He acts like he does not want to date her, but is …
/r/seduction20/09/13 08:59 PM
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We need more information. Can you give us a recent scenario and as much detail as to what happened?
/r/seduction20/09/13 08:45 PM
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What to text her? Nothing. Do nothing over the entire weekend. Act like you have plans, a life, some other woman, something ... by mysterious and not texting her on a Friday night like some loser with no life. Let her think fondly back on how a cool guy hit on her, and make her weekend special by thinking about you and wondering what will happen. Then Monday call her and ask her out on a date for next Wednesday or Thursday.
/r/seduction20/09/13 08:40 PM
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My thoughts: Just because she talks to other guys means nothing. Stop comparing yourself to them. Hell, even if a woman has a boyfriend there is a saying - "Even if there is a goalie, you can still score." (Not: I don't advocate getting involved with women who are not single for a multitude of reasons, mostly the fact that it reflects poorly on your reputation.) Call her (avoid texting if at all possible) in a few days and see how it goes. Does she remember you? Does she sound excited? Make smal…
/r/seduction20/09/13 08:34 PM
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I've never dealt with this personally, but I know of two potential solutions. The first is from the movie Hitch. As I recall it (roughly) Will Smith is at a club, walks up to a woman who is surrounded by men, hands her some money and tells her to bring him another round of drinks at his table. He walks away. She is not a waitress, so she chases after him complaining. He then smiles and says something like "How else was I going to get you alone?" Number two: My friend (a great pick up artist in m…
/r/seduction20/09/13 08:23 PM
2

Upboats for you!
/r/seduction20/09/13 08:19 PM
1

I forgot to mention - sometimes the Doc Love book is for sale on eBay. Otherwise, I paid $100 for it new and yes, it is worth it.
/r/seduction20/09/13 06:21 PM
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Been there, done that. It's a great age. Suggested reading: David DeAngelo. He has a Interviews with Dating Gurus CD set which is really motivational. The young guys are going to slam me on this, but you will benefit incredibly from this as an older guy. Doc Love - his "System" AKA Dating Dictionary. It's a poorly organized and poorly written book, and if you read it twice while dating women, you will suddenly recognize every mistake you probably made with your ex. It's one of those books that i…
/r/seduction20/09/13 06:15 PM
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Honestly ... that sounds like crap advice. lol. Do you (a) think she'd have the guts to do it and (b) whatever guy would go for it? Sure, there's a ton of factors to consider, but in general I don't think that is good advice. Your advice on picking up guys ... kinda sucks. ;)
/r/seduction20/09/13 05:20 PM
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I cannot upvote this enough. Asking women - anyone for that matter - for advice on something they've never done is insanity. Flip it around - would a straight guy be able to tell a woman how to pick up a guy because he had so much experience? Nope!
/r/seduction20/09/13 05:07 PM
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Use your imagination. What is around you? Do anything that costs less than $20 that she might enjoy. You find that out by making small talk with her (which it seems like you may have done, what do you know about her?) and then doing something that works. Does she like pastries? Go to a bakery and get cupcakes or chocolate eclairs. Or a donut shop. Does she like fruity things? Go to a smoothie place and get something. Go to an ice cream place and get something. Of course, since you have made smal…
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:01 PM
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There are some great comments here. I learned a very long time ago that the most powerful thing you can say to a woman in the throes of passion is: May I? If she doesn't say "Yes" ... then DON'T. Now, the most powerful part of that is to immediately stop, get up, thank her for the lovely night, and start heading for the door. I say "start" because I've never actually made it to the door. Not once in 20 years. The other tip I can give you is to leave a woman that hot and bothered after the first …
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:13 AM
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But then she started saying stuff about how she doesn't like dates, and how she's a serious "commitment-phobe" You want to keep her? I'd suggest otherwise. As far as the co-worker, you can just tell her "You know what, this isn't working out for me. I hope you can understand." Beware, that may make her more attracted to you. Or pissed. You never know!
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:10 AM
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No. That does not work. Why not? Well, could you ask a GUY friend the same thing and he would think nothing of it? Probably. What would happen if you asked a guy something like this: Are you free tomorrow night, at 8:00pm? I'd like to take you on a date to Joe's bar and grille. It's something a FRIEND could possibly say to another friend. It's passive, does not suggest anything sexual, and doesn't suggest a date. The bigger problem you have, I suspect, and are trying to solve, is if you are frie…
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:08 AM
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Try it. Just say it calmly and nicely. It shows you are confident. Asking like you did shows you are seeking her approval which is often a turn-off. And ... clearly it didn't work! :)
/r/seduction19/09/13 04:22 PM
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Yeah, this would be helpful.
/r/seduction19/09/13 02:43 PM
3

Yup, this is the way to go. Pro tip: Don't ask a woman for her phone number. TELL her to give you her phone number. mind if I get your number? Fail. Give me your phone number. Win. Don't be a wimp about it, make it happen by taking charge. :)
/r/seduction19/09/13 02:34 PM
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Now that you've posted you're 21 and a student, your passive aggressive and rude reply makes sense. No more advice for you.
/r/seduction19/09/13 12:08 PM
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Yeah, have another drink, then go back to her place. Or take a taxi. Or get a hotel room.
/r/seduction19/09/13 02:06 AM
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You are feeling crappy because you are (probably) not sitting down, thinking about the date, thinking about what mistakes you made, and LEARNING from those mistakes. Every interaction is an opportunity to learn something new. If you're feeling crappy ... it's your brain telling you that you are missing out on important information. It then lowers your confidence as a defense mechanism to avoid further dates because you have not learned what you are doing wrong, and as a result you innately know …
/r/seduction19/09/13 01:58 AM
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Everything you wrote sounds like me. Overbite, bad back (and bad knee), halitosis (which is hard to manage, but I do it) major stomach problems (IBS anyone), stupid skin problems including a bright red face, and some weird freaking allergies. So what can you do about it? I grew a goatee to make my chin more prominent. I brush my teeth several times a day using some stuff which I found to work very well. I take a probiotic and talk to my GI doctor. I also take a daily multivitamin. I have a few f…
/r/seduction19/09/13 01:30 AM
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My take - sorry if I sound harsh, it's just how I write. :) had good conversation What did you talk about? Did you predominantly ask her questions to get to know her (qualifying questions) and flirt, while simultaneously being mysterious about your traits? Or did you do most of the talking, were overly serious, or anything else that could be boring or predictable? The next day She texted me and we chat for a bit. How did the conversation go? Do you still have it? Let us see, we can help. But in …
/r/seduction19/09/13 01:08 AM
1

Exit strategy is simple: 100% no contact. Don't talk to her, reply to texts, answer phone calls, etc. Just cut her off, no matter what happens. Any response will elicit a strong reaction and further issues.
/r/seduction18/09/13 01:10 PM
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Aside from my other comments a few moments ago, assume to exit strategy with her. Keep her around to get laid. Be aware that you are not her only boy toy, and use protection every single time. I used to sleep with a woman like this when I was in college. She gave me chlamydia. Turns out she had about 10 boyfriends. At that point I realized it was not really worth the risk to sleep with promiscuous women. Now here's an interesting point to keep in mind: When she is juggling multiple partners, let…
/r/seduction18/09/13 12:28 PM
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I gathered the taboo nature of the relationship from your comments, but every country has them. However, every country is hard to get laid if you don't have the skillset and don't practice! Haha. Ok, she is chasing you, that's fine. Of course, it's an ego boost to you, and you should acknowledge that. The most important thing is to think very carefully about what YOU want and how this makes YOU look. Do you want to get laid? Probably. Can you do it without becoming emotionally attached to this c…
/r/seduction18/09/13 12:20 PM
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Sorry. I only know how to deliver this information in a harsh way. :( I hope you can learn from it. We all make these mistakes. I know I did the same thing time and time again until my buddy did the same breakdown on me.
/r/seduction18/09/13 11:50 AM
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Start talking to all other women. All you have to do is say "Hi" as you walk by. Then when you realize they are interested in you, start introducing yourself, make some small talk, and if they seem both interested in you and seem like a nice woman, ask for her phone number. Wait a few days (3+) and call her and ask her on a simple date (coffee/drinks/walk in a nice park, etc - $20 or less). Any woman who accepts without making an excuse is interested in you. Basically, lift your head up (out of …
/r/seduction18/09/13 11:48 AM
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My take: Finally, she told me: There is someone else. Not another guy -- it was another girl. They're in a serious relationship that was forbidden and prejudiced in our culture. She just wanted a fuck. Is there anything wrong with that? Well, usually it's the guy who is doing the dumping afterwards. She clearly took control of this entire situation like a man typically does, so you were her bitch. It hurts, huh? I hope you can take away from this situation that it's a crappy thing to do. But jus…
/r/seduction17/09/13 11:03 PM
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I like David's stuff, but even so most things said like that are just a flirting way of testing you and teasing. There is no reason to drop the ball and get serious! :)
/r/seduction17/09/13 10:47 PM
1

Sorry I got that all confused! I was wondering what the heck was going on ... haha. The only thing I dread now is running into her, because it will almost surely happen sooner or later. There is nothing to dread! Say hi to her politely and ignore her. Be confident in your skin and she will regret blowing you off! Show her she has no control over you, let her see you having fun with other women and she will realize that YOU ARE THE PRIZE. I'm sure I could with plenty of girls who are just as cute…
/r/seduction17/09/13 10:29 PM
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Thanks for the explanation. That makes a lot more sense. But ... let me get this right ... you were not romantically interested in her, and want her as a friend, but you're posting this scenario in r/seduction? I guess that is why I'm a bit lost here. You were coming across as interested romantically, and now you're not? Either I'm confused or you're confused, but either way I think this woman picked up on this indecisiveness. :) If you just want to be friends, then you can pretty much ignore ev…
/r/seduction17/09/13 09:21 PM
1

I gotta agree - this is out of the norm. However, this woman seems very outspoken, and also a take-charge type, so it seems to fit her personality (what tiny amount I can deduce) very well.
/r/seduction17/09/13 09:01 PM
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I agree with Arbitrage - I think she wanted an F-close. So what if she blew you off? Keep her number, wait till next weekend, see if she texts you. If not, no big deal.
/r/seduction17/09/13 06:30 PM
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This is a lot more valuable than I think most people will give you credit for, especially this: "To become competent, you must feel bad." (you will make mistakes, it is okay.)
/r/seduction17/09/13 04:09 PM
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I think it's too easy to blame other people. It's easy to dismiss her as crazy, stupid, whatever. I think it's more likely the OP made the mistakes, and she reacted in the only way she knew was universally a turn off for guys - to act crazy. I think she's a lot smarter than anyone is giving her credit for.
/r/seduction17/09/13 04:06 PM
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I've found that women are very simple to understand. Unlike guys who say what we want, women do what they want. For them actions speak louder than words. If she won't go on a date with you, it doesn't matter what she says or does, it's the ACT of not going on the date with you. If she is not treating you with respect, is not caring, is dishonest ... she is ACTING in a way to turn you off. It's up to the (smart) guy to pick up on these actions and understand what is going on. A woman who likes a …
/r/seduction17/09/13 04:05 PM
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Simple. Call her and ask her out on a date. Make plans - day, time, place. Then don't call her again. If she doesn't answer, leave this message: Hey, this is [name], call me back. Then when she calls, ask her out.
/r/seduction17/09/13 03:59 PM
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You make some interesting points Just an friendly FYI - I'm just trying to provoke you into thinking a little more critically about the whole situation, that's all. I think you made some small mistakes and can learn from them to improve your results dramatically. :) I asked her to hang out with friends, and I gave her a specific idea of what we were doing, which was exploring a place downtown. Ok, thank you for clarifying, that is a lot better information than what you said before. As always, th…
/r/seduction17/09/13 03:08 PM
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My take on it, which means the mistakes you made: I go over and grab my former classmate's number while I'm at it, since she also seems like a cool girl. Meanwhile, the other girl is cracking up, saying "look at you! You're already trying to play me over there!" You're getting every girls phone number in front of her? That is rude at best, and offensive at worst. You just acted like she's just a notch in your belt. Bad move. I then invite her to come hang out with my friends, but she says she ha…
/r/seduction17/09/13 01:26 PM
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You got downvoted, but I agree. He made a number of mistakes in my opinion.
/r/seduction17/09/13 01:12 PM
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Yeah, I understand where you are coming from. I said almost the same thing. I started to get serious about figuring things out when I was 32 years old, and ... man ... if I had started when I was your age, I'd be in a WHOLE different place. You are the common denominator. But it's not a big deal, at least it's not the big deal you are making it out to be. It's like learning how to speak a second language. You can learn Spanish or French or German if you wanted to, right? Well, you can learn the …
/r/seduction17/09/13 12:06 PM
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Your excuse (problem) is that you are socially unpracticed and unskilled. But everyone starts out that way! It's only a problem if you chose to ignore it. Or you can do what I did - when I was in my early 30's I said to myself "If I'm so smart, why can't I figure this dating thing out? All I need to do is learn it." And I did. I Googled dating advice, I bought books, I read websites, and I went out every day and tried what I had learned, make mistakes, and - most importantly - I learned from my …
/r/seduction17/09/13 01:31 AM
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You're welcome. I was in your shoes many years ago, and lots of other guys are too. Three weeks is not bad, but it should be the exception and not the rule. However, the most important thing to realize here is that you are chickening out. You do not know if you are friendzoned or not, and I do not know either. Why? Because you have not asked her on a date and you have not analyzed the three possible answers she could give. Until you ask her, you will never know, and you must ALWAYS ask. ALWAYS. …
/r/seduction17/09/13 12:33 AM
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Why not skip over years of this pattern, and start figuring out what you really want in your day to day life that will let you be happy. Try to imagine the novelty having worn off, and ask what can I truly be happy with day to day. I think you've nailed it here. What seems to be the problem here is that he wants to find a GREAT woman, and he is afraid that he is not a "great" guy, is deserving, can hold her attraction, etc. It's like he feels like he is acting, and cannot hold his own against a …
/r/seduction16/09/13 09:27 PM
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Here's my take on it. FWIW, I'm an older guy, and my now wife is 13 years younger than me. Age means nothing as long as she's legal. However, if she is under 21, you're gonna have a bad time. When I was your age, 21 was the bare minimum so we could go out to bars together. I suggest you do the same. In my chemistry class, there is this girl, Amber, [snip] She sits next to me and we chat throughout class. She laughs at my bad jokes and is very nice. If you have not asked her on a date, the more y…
/r/seduction16/09/13 09:14 PM
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Playing games is her way of testing you. Ignoring it says you're not any different than any other AFC. She's flirting with you, it would be a bad move to not flirt back ...
/r/seduction16/09/13 08:50 PM
1

I'm no master pua, but this has also worked great for me. "No, how about you buy ME a drink?"
/r/seduction05/02/12 03:06 PM
1

Just go back and get her number. I did the same thing with my now wife. Made small talk and kicked myself after I left. I went back next week and the rest is history.
/r/seduction05/02/12 03:04 PM
1

I, too, want to know. Please, Internet, learn me something!
/r/MensRights01/02/12 12:20 AM
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My wife read that and says "Shouldn't that be 'when men become boys?'" I agreed and kissed her ass.
/r/MensRights01/02/12 12:14 AM
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I agree with your general concept of why guys have a hard time getting into a LTR. I used to date a lot, and after a few years I noticed a recurring theme: All these women would cheat on their BF, were stupid, and so forth. I came out of it being a misogynist. I literally hated women because I thought they were all shallow, had no integrity, and so forth. I literally swore off women for a number of years. This will get downvoted for sure, but I came across Doc Love and his "Dating Dictionary". W…
/r/seduction19/08/11 08:47 PM
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Thank you!
/r/seduction19/06/11 02:51 PM
1

I'll have to review it again and see what more info I can glean, thanks for the clarification.
/r/seduction18/06/11 07:08 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/seduction17/06/11 11:55 PM
1

Do you have any links to that stuff? I guess I should elaborate that I am also looking for stuff that helps with texting and flirting. That's where I have the most difficulty. I picked up The Art of Seduction today and thus far it looks like a great read.
/r/seduction17/06/11 11:45 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/seduction17/06/11 11:43 PM
1

I've read that. It was more of a story though. I'm looking for something more like real life examples and such. David DeAngelo had some good stuff which I liked, such as his CD series that interviewed those dating gurus. That's the kind of stuff I'm looking for.
/r/seduction17/06/11 11:43 PM
1

In my opinion the queen size is great for threesomes because you are so close. King is great for sleeping in with 3 people and not touching each other ... which leads to LESS sex.
/r/seduction02/06/11 03:17 PM
1

So how was the chick fil a? Feeling better now? LOL :)
/r/seduction16/05/11 02:45 PM
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I never said it was his fault, and I wasn't trying to assign blame here ... I was just trying to say "Hey, these might be two scenarios to think about." Should he feel guilty? FUCK NO. Just don't get surprised in 6 months if she says she loves him if he keeps it up. That could happen. Mmmmm chick fil a ...
/r/seduction16/05/11 01:25 PM
1

Well said.
/r/seduction15/05/11 09:58 PM
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I agree, but only in a perfect world. Sure, if all women were able to distance themselves emotionally from sex then I would agree. In theory, this really is great - and again, I agree with you. In reality, it's rare that a woman is this mature ... In this case, it seems possible that she either is trying to justify the hookup so she doesn't feel like a slut, or she's saying that if he continues to do this she is going to expect more, and perhaps become more attached - maybe even clingy and all t…
/r/seduction15/05/11 09:35 PM
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I agree that you handled it 100% properly. Bravo for you. I also agree with this comment 100%. If you hook up with her again, you are leading her on. The more often you are physical with her, the closer she will feel to you. One thing will lead to another and she'll either expect you to be exclusive with her, or it'll get messy. God forbid she suddenly is "pregnant". Do you know her well enough to be sure this won't happen? As she's getting nearer 30, her biological clock IS ticking louder, be c…
/r/seduction15/05/11 05:23 PM
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Here, this should explain what I am trying to say (but not doing a good job of doing, my apologies!) http://www.sosuave.com/articles/at/whynot.htm
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:31 PM
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Exactly, that's my point. But on the second point, no, you misunderstood. I wasn't giving you advice, I just meant some "typical" guy like I was describing should try to improve themselves! :)
/r/seduction02/01/11 05:17 PM
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And we still have a great sex life after 7 years together too. I'm telling ya folks ... if you're not happy, you chose the wrong partner!
/r/seduction02/01/11 04:42 AM
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One less woman to deal with who wasn't interested enough to see who you were after just 4 days. I consider that a win in my book.
/r/seduction02/01/11 04:41 AM
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What I was trying to say was that if you are a rude, smelly, boring, immature, obnoxious, or otherwise undesirable person, then you need to do something about that. Just being yourself is a bad thing if you're repelling every woman you meet. Time to grow, learn, and improve yourself.
/r/seduction02/01/11 04:41 AM
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The wondering is self-hypnotic, and very powerful IF she is interested in you. Much like how a girl complains about how someone was rude to her, it is NOT the norm but it can create an obsession. If you are NOT like every other guy it can be powerful. Tucker Max would be an extreme example of this concept.
/r/seduction29/12/10 03:04 AM
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I 100% agree with the point of this topic. Waiting is the #1 mistake most guys make IMO. Personally, I don't take women to shows, dinners, parties, etc on a first date. Drinks and under $20 weeds out the women interested in your wallet or who are just bored. She has to impress me before I start paying her way.
/r/seduction29/12/10 03:02 AM
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That is true, it 100% depends on what you want. For me, a long term relationship with someone amazing was my preference. I just got tired of all the lame dates with so-so women. They were a waste of effort, time, and money IMO.
/r/seduction29/12/10 02:59 AM
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If Washington DC and (previously) Denver are rural, I'd be curious to know what you think a busy city is like! BTW David DeAngelo helped me a lot to be memorable and not desperate. Among other resources.
/r/seduction29/12/10 02:56 AM
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Funny, I'm an older guy too ... if 41 is old. And yes, DocLove did play a part in that technique. I'm not dating any more, I'm happily married, but his techniques still work well for the occasional threesome.
/r/seduction29/12/10 02:52 AM
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i disagree. cheddarchexmix has a great theory about asking women out and waiting 4/5 days is wrong. His theory has worked for me many times now actually, and I wouldnt do it any other way. If it has worked for you many times now, then it means it has failed for you many times as well. Why are you not still with these women? I am assuming you dated them and dumped them after it did not work out? That does not sound like success to me! :( Look, if a girl has forgotten about you in 1-3 days, then s…
/r/seduction29/12/10 12:38 AM
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Here's a tip I learned after a lot of asking women out - once you get their number, wait exactly 4 or 5 days before contacting them again. When you do, CALL them (do not text them!) and ask them out on a date. Name a specific date, time, and place that is quiet but nice. Your date should be for drinks and not cost more than $20. The point is that if you call too soon you appear desperate, and if you wait you seem disinterested. If you keep the date cheap, it lets her know this is about you getti…
/r/seduction28/12/10 06:22 PM
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