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Looking for the easiest way in your case will only make you suffer.
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:44 AM
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Dont take this as an insult, but i feel your reply is more theoretical and in theory i can follow it. And if you mean with persistency you can still sleep with women or even get into a relationship with them infully agree. But in reality, a woman that does not warm up to you instantly will never be head over heels for you. She can come to like you, she can realize there is more to you than she initially thought etc. But she will never be on that League that some other girls will be. As a student…
/r/seduction14/06/26 04:47 PM
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Just because you become friends doesnt mean you have a good friendship, just because you get a girl to sleep with you doesnt mean she respects you or wants to stay with you. Realize that you can do a lot of things wrong and still get results. Chasing is such a bad thing because a man thats good with woman picks up on suddle communications. So quite fast you know that a woman is not that much into you. From this point on you can still get her, you might or you might not, but she will never be muc…
/r/seduction14/06/26 10:38 AM
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Investment, the friendly guys are so invested in the whole thing, that they are so afraid to ruin the friendship. Even at the cost of not getting what they want, which becomes a spiral where you feel like you are not going to get it or dont deserve it anyway. The succesful guys are showing intent and either already are or learning to not be hurt so much by rejection. And a bit of reading the room and social dynamics and adapting to it.
/r/seduction22/05/26 12:05 PM
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Looking desperate is only when you dont read the signals you get back. You can literally approach every woman in a venue and say something corny like you look beautiful and still not look desperate.
/r/seduction16/05/26 06:27 PM
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Let me guess, there was no touching on the dates?
/r/seduction09/05/26 12:19 PM
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Look i mostly agree with you, but im not saying it "because women say so". Im saying it from my perspective and experience, i should have worded it differently. Ofcourse they say shit and actually want something else, but in my experience if you are able to have a normal conversation without displaying red flags, which not a lot of people are able to do, you can get with many women. Despite what they think they want or look for or whatever. Doing the above, will make them feel heard, seen, safe …
/r/seduction30/04/26 02:21 PM
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I agree on that one ,but your point is that nothing women say is actually true? Most guys are not able to have a normal conversation without trying to impress and acting like a douche or being insecure and acting like they are not worthy. Or just able to talk about random topics and listen to another person. If you have the confidence and skill to just talk without those problems, you can for sure het many women already.
/r/seduction30/04/26 01:35 PM
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Sleeping with women only acquires you to be normal. Women will literally say it, i just want a normal dude. Men think normal means Millionaire, 6 foot 3, famous actor etc. It literally means normal. Not being consumed by insecurities and just being able to talk to people and be yourself. Of course for most of us that is a long and difficult journey to achieve because we are all fucked up, still it is true. Women are great, you just talk to them and you quickly find out of there is some chemistry…
/r/seduction30/04/26 08:21 AM
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The dude is right, you can't just buy the cocaine to make lines because you like making lines and then complain its difficult to quit cocaine
/r/seduction24/04/26 09:05 AM
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While i did the same and agree to a certain extent. This is the game and if you want to play it you need to get better at it. At a certain point you also need to develop a conscience and realize you are using other peoples emotions for your personal growth and making women fall in love with you and hurting them after for your own practise will feel bad for anyone with a conscience.
/r/seduction18/04/26 08:25 AM
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Yes, dating apps worked for me, but i always kept that feeling that i was cheating and not actually fixing my obstacles and fears to approach women and basically go for what i want in life without shortcuts. You can cheat the system but you cant cheat yourself.
/r/seduction17/04/26 02:05 PM
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That's completely not how it works. That's exactly what self sabotage looks like. Yeah I don't need to approach dude, I'm fine. Deep down you'll feel its an excuse.
/r/seduction09/04/26 11:44 AM
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Dont
/r/seduction09/04/26 08:35 AM
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What it did for me is it tilted the scales. There was always a balance between anxiety of approaching on one hand and lets call it hornyness on the other. And most of the time the anxiety was stronger. When I quit porn, the horniness got that much bigger that it outweighed the anxiety and tipped the scale towards action. So yeah it helped. Ofcourse the next problem is that it made me approach women that, after sex, i apparently wasnt into 😅
/r/seduction08/04/26 02:10 PM
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You follow her home, stalk the building and monitor everyone that goes in and out. You map her trips, find patterns. You ask her?
/r/seduction08/04/26 08:45 AM
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Not that important for seduction. For setting down when you get a bit older it is. Women will mess with whoever makes them feel.good, but a lot of them will look for socio economical status to settle down. Def not all of them or anything. In general id say dont let it be an excuse. I have had my most successful period of seduction when i actually didnt have my own place. Dont let it be one of those i will be successful when i get x things. Because when you get your place it will be when i get a …
/r/seduction06/04/26 10:18 PM
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Id say if you own it it can be interesting. But by the fact you make this topic, i think we can assume youre not owning it.
/r/seduction06/04/26 10:10 PM
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Dating apps. Optimize your profile and work on your dates to optimize those too. You are leaving a lot of gains on the table, probably the best, but it is very doable. You do need to get good at what you do though, competition is tough online. So polarize the fuck out of everything.
/r/seduction05/04/26 04:19 PM
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Figure out what is causing those insecurities and deal with them.
/r/seduction01/03/26 04:33 PM
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Its not for me, but after 30 you can easily hook up with the 20 something year olds. Its that time where you can have good finances, a job, a passion, a good body etc compared to some kid that has nothing interesting to say
/r/seduction27/01/26 05:33 PM
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I did get more success in clubs but it never became my thing. Just know that maybe it isnt for you and if thats the case dont spend 20 years trying to figure out how to make it work. Club game is way less verbal, more confidence attraction, leading, being physical. So for a classically introverted guy or even one that worked on himself a lot and became much more smooth with words, it might not be the place. If thats not the case, what got me more succesful is like before mentioned. Being more le…
/r/seduction24/01/26 10:47 AM
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Till you hit 30, then it mostly reverses.
/r/seduction23/01/26 02:39 PM
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Id say no im not canceling my golf, but we can meet up before or after or you can join. Strong boundary, but not rigidity or childishness.
/r/seduction13/01/26 10:36 PM
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Its simple, a lot of people that are visiting this sub are needy as fuck. They need to relax with their needyness. For them its great advice. If you are not needy and you have a great connection and want something serious and you dont text for a few days, a high quality woman will think you are not interested and distance herself. So as everything its a scale and it depends on the circumstances.
/r/seduction13/01/26 10:07 AM
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You will find out, the number one group of people that will be impressed by you getting ripped is other guys. I had guys daily stop me, compliment me and break their neck and lets be honest, i was hoping that would be the Womens reaction. For the women id say its definitely an extra attribute. Girls will look at you more or make a remark, but you still have to go through the whole seduction. So its definitely a positive, but still just one of many factors. My best times were actually when my bod…
/r/seduction03/01/26 11:49 AM
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Yes sounds normal, especially since you are playing a numbers game. Which is clearly not natural or driven by your attraction to a specific woman. So it makes sense, you are objectifying women (no judgement) and sometimes it crashes with your actual attraction. Since your are basically consuming products, you are constantly comparing then on the surface with other products. There will always be a better more attractive one as long as you are just superficially interacting and not consciously com…
/r/seduction03/01/26 09:47 AM
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Tbh the four was, filled with drama and one was half out, one was making drama etc. More recently i had two while working a very demanding job and i also couldnt handle it, it made me go crazy and i decided that even two is not worth it for me anymore. So yeah i am with you on the side of not knowing how those guys do it.
/r/seduction03/01/26 09:36 AM
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Dealing with 5 women besides your normal life. I have had 4 chicks and there was always some emotional drama going on with one. Theres always a favorite one and the others always notice they are second choices and will start to either flat out demand more time or start getting manipulative and toxic. Maybe you just have more energy than me or you dont give a shit about them, but for me it never worked.
/r/seduction02/01/26 01:44 PM
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Sounds tiring dude.
/r/seduction02/01/26 10:52 AM
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For every benefit theres a downside to mention, its quite useless.
/r/seduction01/01/26 06:33 PM
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They have a different experience dude. We get hurt young and spend the rest of our lives improving and working on ourselves and get succes later in life as we are forced to grow to try to be able to count in society. They get everything thrown at them when they are young, dont develop themselves as much and end up old ugly and unwanted, not understanding why they can only get sex and no one wants to settle down with them, or only the guys that they dont want and they ll never get the guys they w…
/r/seduction01/01/26 04:21 PM
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By time it will slowly happen, to speed it up what you need is more experiences and exposure. So face it, get into more situations, create more options. If you are a small child that transformer means the world to you and you are super invested, as you get older have money of your own, you owned Transformers etc. You dont care as much anymore, you dont lay awake thinking about that transformer. Also if you have 3 other transformers laying around, you will care less about getting that latest one.…
/r/seduction28/12/25 10:22 PM
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Correct me if wrong. But you didnt have sex with her but you had all the drama of a marriage. If something makes a woman dry up, lose respect and friendzone you its this. You acting like you guys are in some sort of relationship without even having had sex, talking about breaking up even, puts you in q very over invested position and makes her friendzone you and move on till she finds something better and she can offer you to stay friends if your emotional talks were interesting.
/r/seduction28/12/25 10:10 AM
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Tell me you dont understand social dynamics and never had succes with women, without telling me you dont understand social dynamics and success with women.
/r/seduction25/12/25 06:41 PM
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Thanks for telling us you fly for a major is airline, very relevant.
/r/seduction24/12/25 02:09 PM
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I can understand why you are in this sub, my autistic friend.
/r/seduction24/12/25 01:57 PM
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The whole point is there is no perfect or correct way and over analyzing everything and obsessing over the perfect opener gets to a counterproductive point. Its the whole experience the whole package for a woman. The confidence, the not giving a fuck and entertaining yourself, the energy, everything. Ofcourse it is not an absolute fact that what you say doesnt matter, but thats the point. That even when saying total nonsense or even things that would seem negative to your presentation, nothing i…
/r/seduction24/12/25 10:28 AM
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You are taking it too literally
/r/seduction23/12/25 09:39 PM
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I did an RSD bootcamp, where I did perhaps 100 approaches. They made us do shit to get over the boundary of feeling ashamed to approach. One of the things i had to approach with was: Hey i have diarrhea do you know the nearest pharmacy. I learned that evening that it really doesnt fucking matter what you say, but how you say it and how you come across.
/r/seduction23/12/25 07:29 PM
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You seem to not accept or understand the general idea of embracing rejection. If you try to avoid it instead of embracing and normalizing it, it becomes a monster that you want to avoid at all costs. Which has so many negative effects, i wont bother to start naming them.
/r/seduction10/12/25 10:22 AM
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Does it matter?.its garbage one way or another.
/r/seduction09/12/25 11:16 PM
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Its not light and fun, it shows a lot of thought and investment. I can understand a women thinking woww this dude is too intense. The whole part of her having to win you over, does he like me? Etc all the excitement is out of the window. You are super invested and that can feel creepy. As in what if i dont want to have sex or if i want to leave.
/r/seduction09/12/25 10:15 PM
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I call him out, immediately on the spot.
/r/seduction06/12/25 10:00 AM
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Build your flow tree. But have an underlying understanding of a succesful flow. Spike attraction, build some comfort and escalate! You need to escalate very quick otherwise its just another chat buddy that will get ghoster for any spike of emotions. Move from chat to phone call or other social media really quick, than plan meetup also quick. You need to always be aware where you are on your flow tree. Ah shes not attracted enough right now, so we go for one of the attraction spikes. Ah she is re…
/r/seduction05/12/25 09:58 AM
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Yeah true but thats my point, this is not seduction advice, but normal conversation advice.
/r/seduction03/12/25 10:15 AM
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Nothing wrong with this, but its not really seduction. These are more some basic examples for social austist to have a normal conversation.
/r/seduction02/12/25 10:25 PM
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Look for a dude that doesnt smile in his pictures and doesnt have party/group pictures. 50-50 chance to get an introvert low energy good guy or a serial killer.
/r/seduction02/12/25 09:52 PM
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Whats below his text. Is do your own thing, have a life of your own and do fun things you enjoy. She probably fell in love with a guy that has shit going on and was a bit of a mystery,.but most of all had his own thing and now she probably knows you all the way through like a friend. What his text is causing, is if you play guitar not that leader of men bullshit. Because who gives a fuck about who organized the nerd circle that plays Dungeons and Dragons,but you being in your element and having …
/r/seduction02/12/25 03:43 PM
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It makes no sense to me that someone would make a girl come and they are turned off to have sex. I think they tell themselves foreplay is not sex, so they are not sluts. And they dont want to have sex with him for whatever reason. Could be to playerish, could be the impression he would go and tell all his friends, could be many things.
/r/seduction02/12/25 02:06 PM
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Its lmr, you manage to turn them on, but didnt manage to make them feel safe and trust you. All that foreplay bullshit like its a technique thing is nonsense. They want sex with you, but something is holding them back.
/r/seduction02/12/25 10:01 AM
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Therapy dude. Its a big mountain to be honest and show your vulnerabilities, but it is the most liberating thing to do, to get out of your head and to build real relationships. I feel its like a muscle, after you did it it becomes easier.
/r/seduction01/12/25 11:13 AM
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Dont mistake being insecure with having a bad personality. As long as you will see it like that and keep punishing yourself it wont change.
/r/seduction29/11/25 05:55 PM
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You walk around and give everyone free samples or packages of your personality. A remark here a remark there. When they are receptive you start stacking. Nothing more annoying than someone that keeps on stacking when you are not interested. For me the value is in displaying your personality. You can open direct and if someone is receptive stack with your stack. Perhaps lower energy, less clown, more unshaken energy or at least radiate its all good if someone doesnt reciprocrate. Personally i wil…
/r/seduction28/11/25 08:46 PM
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Blaming others, ex: my ex was an asshole, he always did x. (Then why were you with him, how unhealthy do you have to be to be with a toxic person). Repetitive behavior, learned nothing. Didnt reflect at all, doesnt know her own weaknesses and character flaws. He took me to restaurant x not even to y . Entitlement. Doesnt take time between relationships to reflect, heal and grow. So we are looking for red or green flags and we get them by asking things like when was your last long term relationsh…
/r/seduction26/11/25 03:09 PM
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Doesnt matter, it needs to be congruent with your personality. Thats why i told you the principle behind it of not getting angry or emotional. I would grab a womans phone put it in my pocket and say hey the conversation is here, if you behave well ill give it back later. But id have a smirk on my face and it fits my demeanor. I can totally see it not working with other people. Figure out your own way, its not about the words.
/r/seduction16/11/25 02:43 PM
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Just call her out or tell her to put the phone away in a non emotional way. Dont get angry immediately, just have a healthy boundary and communicate that. If she doesnt respect your boundary only then we are in ending it territory, not before. If she is attracted shell giggle and take your lead for example and all is good.
/r/seduction16/11/25 01:43 PM
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Ok my 2 cents. Could be spot on, could be a total miss regarding your situation. When you use seduction as opposed to fully being yourself. You will attract and sleep with women that are not naturally attracted to you. You develop your game, your routines, you wait a day longer with texting, you have some gimmicks and displays of high value that push her buttons. Her perspective: She likes you, she is not head over heels in love with you. But you your a cool guy. Things happen, theres action, yo…
/r/seduction12/11/25 10:56 AM
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There is no gold standard. If you had a great click and fun and or if its a potential relationship and or when you dont have needyness issues , you can text immediately. If you came across as needy on the date, if you just want to sleep with her, if you want to game her, if you want to seem high value and busy and or if she is one of those Instagram/OF girls than wait. If you artificially wait after a great click a high quality woman will know you are playing games and or take it as you are not …
/r/seduction12/11/25 09:36 AM
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Dont give advice dude.
/r/seduction11/11/25 08:57 PM
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You have the funds, start therapy. Create a circle of good friends with whom you can discuss these things. Work work work on your relationship with yourself. You need to build self love self value and confidence. Hitting rock bottom is good, it motivates. Otherwise if you were in that everything is fine mode, nothing would change. Minimize social media, instant gratification, drugs, partying etc. Try to be bored, try to think a lot, try to analyze, try to feel. Figure out your values. Get in tou…
/r/seduction09/11/25 02:08 PM
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Yeah, nice comparison. Its the same when people are learning game and im trying to tell them, dont game women, be yourself more and accept you wont get all the girls as opposed to getting some girls, but when you run out of game and are yourself they ll drop you for someone more exciting, because they never liked you for you. And this will reinforce your low self esteem and insecurity. Making it not worth it. But tell that to someone that just wants to have some succes with women...
/r/seduction05/11/25 08:05 PM
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You should put things in perspective. The way you feel about her, imagine if she would say the things you did, houd jump on it. There are women that would feel that way about you. You chasing someone that doesnt, reflects your self respect and self worth. A maybe is a strong no. There is no maybe in being attracted to someone or wanting to be with someone. Its super hard and weve all been there,but i hope you can choose yourself and that you deserve the best. Because this path can only become to…
/r/seduction05/11/25 11:25 AM
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I know how it looks from the outside, from the inside its a different picture. Often you are occupied with other stressors in your life or issues that dont give you peace. Often its fun in the beginning, but it always turns toxic. Either you are playing with women that are in love with you, which will turn into manipulation from them and or you feel guilty on the inside, because you know you are stringing them along. The whole "lets see how it goes" means you already know you are not seriously i…
/r/seduction05/11/25 10:13 AM
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If you want to seduce, come across as a high value guy, just have sex etc than yes. If you are on a date with the love of your life or dating to find someone for a serious relationship than no. Basically women have been fucked up and over estimate themselves. X 100. So since they get so much attention and validation, for these women you need to stand out. They dont want a good guy or a real man, they want quick emotions and an adventure. They dont have time for a shy guy. Now a good confident wo…
/r/seduction04/11/25 08:19 AM
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If shes mature dont be smooth, be direct honest confident and mature.
/r/seduction03/11/25 04:05 PM
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She doesnt feel safe to tell you or doesnt know exactly, but she lost attraction to you. It can be a 100 things and its advisable to analyze what went wrong, but dont expect answers from her. And dont take her reasoning literally.
/r/seduction03/11/25 08:37 AM
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They dont care about logistics and rational explanations. No sex after 4 dates is a loss of attraction. Period. If this was your soul mate it probably wouldnt matter. But this is the general dating dynamic. She probably had many dudes text her in the meantime with all new exciting options. If you just want a fling or something, go colder than her, try to forget about her and after some time out of nowhere come in with high value and escalate super fast. Not saying there are not 10 other paths an…
/r/seduction30/10/25 12:24 PM
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"i like you". This is actually the perfect moment to show interest, because its not looks based but for her character. Its a great moment to go from doing a lot of push and being a bit uncommited to suddenly showing interest. It will also kind of condition a lot of woman to keep impressing you since she noticed suddenly she gets a form of validation.
/r/seduction26/10/25 07:23 PM
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It is a tool to have a girl wait, if she is totally into you. If she is not its just weak sauce.
/r/seduction24/10/25 06:52 PM
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Why would a first date have to be original, that in itself shows you dont value yourself enough. If you dont "naturally" keep escalating, you are leaving attraction on the table and that is only fine if you really want to get to know someone. In terms of comfort, you can still have max attraction by escalating and pull back when things are going too fast for her and by you respecting her boundaries and at that point just having a good time will build comfort. If you talk about "rotation" and you…
/r/seduction24/10/25 09:42 AM
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A walk in a park and i think the idea should by default always be to have sex, unless you perhaps really like her and see potential for a ltr
/r/seduction23/10/25 09:07 PM
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I think it will help with being more relaxed around women and it will mess you up in terms of self worth and confidence. In an ideal situation i wouldnt recommend it and i think it harms more than it gives you. But then again if its this or nothing, it could be a fuck it just do it situation.
/r/seduction18/10/25 10:05 AM
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I think it means you have a healthy sense of self respect and self value. To me this unnecessary game playing indicates a lot about what they are used to, how they treat people, their self esteem, what they think they have to offer, how they value themselves, what their past and normal relationships with people are like etc. Its definitely a huge negative and or red flag. Also often it indicates that they are not afraid to lose you, which is a huge red flag. A woman that is into you would never …
/r/seduction14/10/25 08:18 AM
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Ask questions, get into a good conversation. Ask about motives, feelings. And compliment about something you find out about her. A characteristic or a way she handled something.
/r/seduction03/10/25 06:49 PM
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Click on one of those pop up ads.
/r/seduction02/10/25 02:11 PM
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I think you are both right, there just are a lot of low quality women.
/r/seduction26/09/25 10:41 AM
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I was specifically talking about gaming, not saying dont have social interactions and work on those, just specifically the game part, the button pushing.
/r/seduction26/09/25 10:39 AM
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Attraction. A lot of men think if they have financial success, a cool car and look like x and or say some corny shit women will think women will find them attractive. Money has little to do with attraction. A rich guy that tries to impress a woman with his wealth will get friendzoned or used super fast. Whats really attractive is being emotionally unshakable, knowing what you want, being a leader, taking responsibility not being afraid to walk away/ not overinvested, Making her feel strong emoti…
/r/seduction25/09/25 09:17 PM
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Ok
/r/seduction20/09/25 06:34 PM
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Dont underestimate how much access a decent looking woman has to guys. I have had it happen plenty of times, where i was sure there was a connection, i was sure she was into me and interested. But you have to understand as we have 1-4 girls, they have 30 guys and at any moment while shes thinking about you some guy can pop up and invite her on his yaucht on some adventure, her ex could suddenly text her to come over. Her horoscope could warn her for you and lets be honest these girls with this m…
/r/seduction20/09/25 05:41 PM
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I usually say or said a couple of lines and say something like ha I like you, add me on WhatsApp and give my number. I do this after showing a bit of my personality and its a great compliancy test that shows how much they are into you already. Some will add you immediately and open you on WhatsApp. Others will say, add me and give their number and others will ignore it and keep texting. Obv the girls that immediately add you and start talking on app are the ones that will come to your house imme…
/r/seduction20/09/25 05:21 PM
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Part is looks for sure, but its also the experience and confidence. I know guys that go into weeks of texting. Especially 27+ year old women that are really hot, they dont want some kid that will text with them endlessly. So the set up is say something that sparks their interest and or they already have to be interested from your pics. Make a little bit of comfort talk. Next is just proposing a meet up, but from a frame where you show this is very normal for you. And also a time constraint as in…
/r/seduction20/09/25 05:13 PM
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Only you know.
/r/seduction18/09/25 08:54 PM
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Thats Ok, hopefully you will. Its just such a moment when that happens and you realize how stupid you were chasing women that werent really interested in you and were just using you for attention, validation, resources, entertainment or whatever. Or just women that like you and have no such bad intentions, but they dont lay awaken in bed thinking about you, they are not in love, they dont talk about you with their friends and they would t cancel an appointment to be with you. The advice would be…
/r/seduction09/09/25 01:02 PM
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Usually you should'nt have to ask yourself, as in if you suggest something to do she will make herself available even its it her busiest period. Shell contact you herself propose things to do, double text you. Seems excited and happy to talk to you or see you. Smiling a lot, looking at you etc etc.
/r/seduction09/09/25 08:16 AM
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Its just an excuse, a soft rejection. They are like sure lets stay in touch and if they are bored they will respond to your messages or even meet up. This is where your.self respect comes in and you accept they are not that much into you and you move on, because there will be plenty of girls that are actually into you and when you experience that you will be kicking yourself about chasing the ones that werent into you.
/r/seduction08/09/25 11:04 PM
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Nah thats just lying. He should be unapologetic. I dont think dinner is a good thing for a first date. Lets do something a little lighter like grab a drink.
/r/seduction05/09/25 05:04 PM
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Genital grab
/r/seduction05/09/25 02:17 PM
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Constant stream of game, non stop button pushing and playing with emotions. The second you stop and are yourself they will dump you and that high you were on for finally being with a hot girl will have you crash extra deep and feel un worthy and useless. Not recommended. If you want to go a bit deeper you need to step back and look at the fact you are describing them as "out of your league" which already implies a lot about your feeling of self worth. Trying to conquer that will just drag you de…
/r/seduction03/09/25 11:14 AM
2

Question for you, do you know how to talk to other men? If so just do the same time begin with and work on showing interest. If not, work on that.
/r/seduction01/09/25 08:16 AM
3

Overinvested. Will end badly for you whether you are successful or not.
/r/seduction18/08/25 08:10 PM
6

Watch the movie "hostel" for a preview of your trip
/r/seduction19/07/25 09:39 AM
7

Maturity. Game is mostly unlearning stupid shit and insecure behavior. Women want sex, they root for the guys they are dating, they are willing to ignore a lot of orange flags, but most young guys are just walking red flags. They don’t see the bigger picture, they don’t understand how when you start talking about your Ferrari in the first minute, you don’t come across as a baller, but as an insecure child that has low self esteem and thinks he needs to brag to be worthy. Same with talking shit a…
/r/seduction26/06/25 04:24 PM
1

Calm down, do therapy, get to know yourself. Get rid of wondering what people think of you. Find peace and calm and be congruent with what you really want and value. Learn to listen to people.
/r/seduction10/06/25 01:45 PM
1

I mean if you are purely gaming. Canceling a date can be a strong tool. It shows a lot of non neediness, compared to a lot of guys that will double check or confirm the date which shows they are needy and expecting to be stood up. From that perspective and logistically from a numbers perspective it’s smart. From a human decency standpoint like you mentioned, it’s disrespectful and rude.
/r/seduction06/06/25 11:02 AM
0

I do pass judgement.
/r/seduction06/06/25 10:30 AM
44

Agreed, everyone deserves to experience being with someone that is into you. It’s such a world of difference with girls that are just chasing validation and give you your “turn”. Have self respect guys and don’t expect women to respect you and treat you good if you don’t respect yourself.
/r/seduction03/06/25 04:58 PM
1

Ah no, no experience.
/r/seduction01/06/25 06:42 PM
1

No, why?
/r/seduction01/06/25 06:13 PM
6

I think trying to be very self aware of feelings and discussing those things with friends and people. Could be that you analyze that a girl got turned off when you were bragging about your salary or when you didn’t escalate for example. Next is thinking why you did those things, all these processes give you a lot of information and if you can take accountability after you’ll be well on your way. It’s kind of a random example of course because basically everything self improvement, game or psycho…
/r/seduction01/06/25 03:55 PM
20

I think when you get more mature with age and effort things can fall more into place. You will understand all the dynamics and take all your power back as opposed to many men that are kind of feeling like victims and frustrated with women. When you are aware of moet dynamics and what you value in women and in yourself and you have accountability and self respect. You don’t chase, you accept rejection, you don’t try to pretend and are authentic and calm. That attracts women in general. Will you a…
/r/seduction01/06/25 10:34 AM
4

Inviting straight to your house. Filters everything for you.
/r/seduction27/05/25 03:03 PM
1

Dark alleys behind the club
/r/seduction27/05/25 09:38 AM
2

The older they get, the more important character and lifestyle become. Lifestyle (finances basically)is important for settling and not for hookups or flings and depends on the woman. The younger or basically the more insecure women are, they mainly looking at looks and status.
/r/seduction25/05/25 10:16 AM
2

I used to say I “hated” small talk. But actually I didn’t hate it, I just felt ackward doing it and quite frankly I was bad at it. Of course only small talk all the time is superficial without any more in depth conversation. But small talk can be and should be great fun. Usually when people say they hate it or it’s boring it means they are uncomfortable and don’t want to admit/face that. I have in depth and good conversations with plenty of people and small talk is the art of throwing samples of…
/r/seduction24/05/25 03:05 PM
1

Don’t start rejecting people so you don’t get hurt. We need to work towards accepting rejection, because it will make us more fearless and free in all interactions. Putting a girl in the friendzone can work as a trick, the more insecure they are the more it can trigger value or whatever it is and make them want you. Guaranteed it’s a temporary fix, So it might make you successful in sleeping with them, but it’s a procrastination and you are setting yourself up for a rejection later down the road…
/r/seduction22/05/25 10:06 AM
3

I think if you don’t focus on game specifically, but more on general life improvement. Being confident, happy, having a good life and boundaries, Going for what you want etc. It’s never too late and you’ll find to attract good women in the process. I guess even if you do want to focus on just banging hit insecure women and just have sex you could still start, of course where you are now will determine how far you can go, but a year from now you’ll be improved so yeah never too late.
/r/seduction21/05/25 02:13 PM
2

That’s your problem you assume feedback from your own limited experiences. If I took a shit and got head and it happened twice I don’t conclude that taking a shit gets me head.
/r/seduction21/05/25 10:53 AM
1

That to me, very broadly said, is bringing value. Really listening to someone and asking questions, is also bringing huge value to someone’s life. But first contact isn’t necessary the place and time for that and it’s not creating attraction but comfort. It could be that you are trying to connect without attraction. Could be many things of course. Never heard of Ldm.. But in general giving value is giving a bit of your personality. I personally love it when random people in the street start tell…
/r/seduction20/05/25 08:55 AM
1

Bringing value is leading, making conversation and influencing emotions. As opposed to what’s your name? What are you going to do today? Who are you with? And yes you need to get past that potential initial brush off to be able to drop it. Hey whatsup, this guy keeps bothering me I need you to beat him up for me, you look like you lift, can you do that? Just random thoughts but an example of what imo is bringing value and might be an option to get past the beginning if you are not congruent with…
/r/seduction19/05/25 09:14 PM
6

Uhh no
/r/seduction16/05/25 09:43 PM
1

I still see some exes. I care for them because we were together for a long time and we shared a lot of things. I am not romantically interested in them and happy with my current girlfriend. I won’t be in contact with my previous ex for example, only with ones from many years ago where I really processed the relationship and why it didn’t work etc. I also won’t be in contact with exes that I know haven’t moved on and still would want something. So it can work, but it depends on many circumstances…
/r/seduction15/05/25 09:17 PM
0

It’s all great when you have some social dynamic awareness. If you are autistic this shit becomes dangerous, because you miss the nuance.
/r/seduction13/05/25 10:04 AM
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It literally makes no fucking sense. You have enough game to get women into bed or you don’t. That’s first and has nothing to do with how you perform in bed. If you get ghosted after sex, you have no personality and you can just hookup with other women, that is what game and the dating scene are about. If we are talking relationships, sex is more important but I’d still say far from the most important next to personality, appearance etc.
/r/seduction29/04/25 03:33 PM
-7

What absolute nonsense.
/r/seduction29/04/25 02:24 PM
1

If they don’t know and you guys develop feelings for each other. Or she develops feelings and you are seeing other women and not telling, of course you are supposed to feel bad. Imagine seeing a girl, really liking her and finding out another guy is banging her in between your dates.
/r/seduction28/04/25 02:47 PM
1

I’ve been with several gym girls and some pro athletes and first of all it was boring as fuck. But that being said, I think you either should have amazing game and looks to stand out in the gym and pick them up. Or as I did, have some sort of status in the gym. I was there daily, so everyone new me and girls quickly pick up on the hirarchy and value. So when the big guys come to you to talk and or ask advice, form checks, help etc. You are golden. Probably it’s too much of a long term plan and n…
/r/seduction16/04/25 07:22 AM
2

If you use game to keep women you are in for a long tiring and frustrating path that doesn’t end well.
/r/seduction14/04/25 10:21 AM
3

I would shift the focus more to self development instead of game. I would do that anyway even if I were single. Nothing wrong with working on yourself and getting out of your comfortzone, talking to new people everywhere, reading up on social dynamics. Personally I wouldn’t ask for numbers and stuff like that and I cut off the flirting since I’m in a good relationship.
/r/seduction14/04/25 10:21 AM
1

Old English, British accent.
/r/seduction16/03/25 09:16 AM
7

Honestly if a woman needs variety as in different sexual partners that’s an automatic no for me anyway.
/r/seduction15/03/25 08:39 PM
3

You can have a relationship or marriage and have sex multiple times per day.
/r/seduction15/03/25 08:22 PM
2

Because if you value yourself, you won’t be attracted to and or waste your time with those kind of women. Of course it’s a scale and not black and white in the sense that it’s not like your are either low self esteem or high self esteem and the same of course for the women.
/r/seduction15/03/25 07:35 PM
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They are low self esteem and think sex is their net worth. Therefore that is what they advertise… sex. And that whole sexual tension is always there and it’s exciting. I think when your self esteem is low you attract and look for similar people. Not to put myself above you, don’t get me wrong. But as I get older and more mature I find myself going from being attracted by women that show their body and twerk to being a bit turned off by it for example and I really appreciate and get more attracte…
/r/seduction15/03/25 06:05 PM
1

Did you have sex before the 3d date? I am assuming not, also assuming hook up is the dynamic and not ltr. In hookup culture you are competing. The standard is very low but there is competition. So if a woman doesn’t get that adventure/emotion feeling she will move on because there will be 50 Other guys promising just that. Don’t become caring at all. That’s relationship stuff and something that should come when you slept with her and get to know her and appreciate her character, not something sh…
/r/seduction15/03/25 02:39 PM
9

Dude, you think about what went wrong and what went right. At what point did you mess up or did she lose interest, why? What did you do or didn’t you do? What could be an alternative way for that? Try that alternative, rinse and repeat. Maybe you meant it differently but I seriously don’t see the point of approaching without analyzing it afterwards.
/r/seduction14/03/25 10:15 PM
41

Not to be an asshole, but if you approach 400 Women and get nothing out of it, you are most likely not the brightest bulb. Do you analyze the interactions? Do you try to change anything? I think it’s more of an intelligence than a looks problem.
/r/seduction14/03/25 08:42 PM
4

Stop looking for a quick fix and embrace the journey
/r/seduction11/03/25 01:11 PM
-1

Dude half of Europe is black or brown
/r/seduction07/03/25 03:11 PM
1

Yes it works if you have some new value. It’s a 100% set up to get rejected again though. I have had several instances in the past where this happened. I gamed girls, slept with them and let go of gaming a but to find out if I wasn’t pushing emotional buttons they weren’t that interested anymore. Hit them up again some time later, gamed again, rinse repeat. In hindsight I wish I had the self respect to not chase someone that doesn’t want me and after getting rejected again I obviously felt reall…
/r/seduction05/03/25 08:44 AM
1

This is important. Sometimes I want to type Long ass advice about having a mature relationship , boundaries, respect, support etc and then I realize it’s probably 20 year olds and I ask Myself how many 20 year olds have healthy relationships.
/r/seduction21/02/25 10:09 PM
60

Only if the no sex is because you can’t get none.
/r/seduction20/02/25 04:29 PM
1

No
/r/seduction20/02/25 04:29 PM
10

Story
/r/seduction12/02/25 03:22 PM
-1

Yes
/r/seduction09/02/25 12:22 PM
1

With insecure people yes
/r/seduction07/02/25 10:49 AM
1

No not at all. I think you generally attract and get with women that are on your own level. Whatever those levels may mean. If a woman would get angry over stupid shit, I wouldn’t be with her. It’s that simple. And as a man as you grow and get more confident you put the bar higher for women. So yes if you are 18 you generally put up with women with all kinds of ridiculous behavior. But as you get older you should imo have more standards and be less needy, as in if a woman or male friend for that…
/r/seduction26/01/25 12:08 PM
2

I used to have a feeling out first date, text a lot and have a good vibe and then second time I’d either say: I heard you were cooking for me on Friday, or come to my place on Friday we’ll watch a movie. Or I’d that’s too uncomfortable, you can set it up a bit more. Something you discussed like a movie, a dish, use it as an excuse. Hell you can say there a broken lightbulb can you come and help me. If the vibe is right and she feels safe it all doesn’t matter you both know the plan.
/r/seduction19/01/25 05:44 PM
1

Work on yourself. Think about things, meditate, read books. Go to a psychologist. Find intelligent and good friends. Limit social media and porn. Etc etc. And don’t think there is any quick fix.
/r/seduction18/01/25 07:36 AM
1

You noticed yourself yourself you don’t understand what these guys do right and why women are with them and it exposes you don’t understand fully what attracts a woman and what they are looking for in a man. It also shows how overfocused on looks and insecure you are. And you speaking about luck, emphasizes you dont understand how things work and your lack of responsibility for your own well being. Work on yourself dude.
/r/seduction17/01/25 01:47 PM
1

I don’t know why this thread needs so many replies just to tell you it’s a bullshit excuse you make.
/r/seduction11/01/25 09:14 PM
1

The day I spend 100 on a first date….
/r/seduction08/01/25 07:15 PM
3

That’s not game, that’s self development. It’s not called game for no reason, you play a game.
/r/seduction08/01/25 07:10 PM
6

No, that’s not true and something I had to find out after many years of studying game and sleeping with women that weren’t into me. I just learned how to push their buttons so they were perhaps into the character I was playing but not into me. As soon as you run out of game, you’ll be disappointed and they will find value somewhere else because they were never into you. I think this is a huge pitfall a lot of people don’t realize when they start with game. Besides my own experience I can refer t…
/r/seduction08/01/25 04:59 PM
9

If your only goal is to sleep with her a couple of times, sure. Otherwise, a girl that’s really into you won’t ghost you. So anything else you do will set you up for future disappointment.
/r/seduction08/01/25 01:51 PM
1

Its going for what you want in life. Extremely high value. It shows so much about your life. People that do that don’t have boring lives and are not held back by anxiety and fear like 95?% of people, so it Communicates a lot of value.
/r/seduction05/01/25 11:10 PM
2

Personally I only did when I am not attracted sexually and I really liked a girls personality. And even in that situation it never went right, because those girls I basically friendzoned were into me. The other way around, like you are asking, I’d never do, because I am attracted to these women, so if they reject me, I don’t want to stay around them because deep down I still want them. I want to have a healthy relationship with rejection and not Hoover around those girls with a (subconscious) ag…
/r/seduction28/12/24 08:02 AM
1

Do you know how much of an achiever and person that goes for what he wants he is, besides being extremely intelligent and has his values and morals straight. I think the guy would do good with women if he earned 50k a year.
/r/seduction27/12/24 05:09 PM
1

Split from second? Sure dm me.
/r/seduction20/12/24 01:04 PM
26

They just want emotions, adventures. They want to be swept away and fall in love. They don’t think everything through rationally because they function more emotions based. So where a guy if he is looking for a serious relationship perhaps doesn’t go to not so holy places, a girl will go there for the excitement without the intention of something actually happening, but totally being susceptible to whatever can happen. A girl can be not cool with a hookup and looking for a serious relationship, b…
/r/seduction19/12/24 10:26 PM
6

Can be many things, can be her creating some distance so you don’t get your hopes up and clingy. Can be her creating some distance so she doesn’t get hurt, as in lightly rejecting you before you might reject her. Could be the previous, because she doesn’t want to be used just for sex and she is actually hoping you address it and tell her you have feelings. Could be completely random something that she says, but honestly I don’t agree with other posts and I do think something is behind it, women …
/r/seduction19/12/24 09:42 AM
3

Don’t do that. I have spent years doing unnecessary dumb stuff because of this “game principle”. It’s not that black and white, it’s about not getting exploited by someone that’s not into you. As a man you should be a provider. That doesn’t mean you pay everything. But literally 9 out of 10 Women I have dated offered to pay the second date or venue. It was almost liberating for me to stop this childish “rule” and just pay the 2 coffees without worrying about how to say something about it or half…
/r/seduction19/12/24 09:06 AM
39

Don’t go for food with women you don’t sleep with. That simple. I really don’t understand all these guys paying for expensive dates and not understanding it will even lower their chances often. Take a fucking walk, order 2 coffees. If necessary next date invite her over cook together watch a movie have sex. After if you like her no one cares about the bill you pay, she pays whatever.
/r/seduction18/12/24 09:49 PM
1

Waited to long to escalate, she doesn’t see you as a man anymore and is going to get that excitement of what might happen with someone else.
/r/seduction12/12/24 03:04 PM
1

It won’t be an end all solution, in the end you need to be comfortable with yourself to be able to have prolonged eye contact with anyone. That being said it can be a good kickstart and an aid in getting there.
/r/seduction12/12/24 07:52 AM
23

Practise in the mirror, with your friends and family, little kids. Work your way up. Even while holding eye contact with a kid it might be difficult for you but be aware during it and get comfortable with yourself in that time/
/r/seduction12/12/24 07:28 AM
6

Hahhaha this reminds me of that meme: Guy A: “she’s online! Quick, what do I say to her?” Guy B: “Send a picture of your dick” Guy A: “You first” Guy B: “To her, you idiot”
/r/seduction10/12/24 10:35 AM
3

You need to understand what turns them on and you need to recognize when they are turned on and when they are not.
/r/seduction05/12/24 04:51 PM
1

Take responsibility for your situation. As in don’t feel sorry for yourself. Accept where your are and move up from here. Create a life you enjoy, work on your character, your mental state, your interactions etc. Mix theory with practical action, get out of your comfort zone, try to enjoy the ride. Get good people around you. Keep it light, don’t over obsess over analyze, over commit. Etc
/r/seduction02/12/24 09:35 PM
1

Responsibility
/r/seduction02/12/24 10:02 AM
3

I think often chicks reject for different reasons, could be they are put on the spot and do it to get out of the pressure, could be a rational decision. Simultaneously they could be attracted and or intrigued by you. I remember in high school many cases of women talking bad about guys. Only for them to be kissing them 5 mins later. It’s a slippery slope though as in, you could be persistent and show no emotional weakness and potentially win her over, but depending on her psychological state it c…
/r/seduction25/11/24 09:04 AM
1

Yea you are depressed what do you think you radiate? You think women see you and have movie like scenarios going through their mind. Ah this depressed guy looks like well have crazy adventures and lots of fun.
/r/seduction16/11/24 08:05 PM
0

We need more info on the dates.
/r/seduction16/11/24 12:26 PM
1

Stop gaming and be yourself. Gaming is necessary if you have 0 access, you clearly fixed that. Now it’s time to be yourself and connect with people that are compatible. Go look for women that have values and characteristics that you really value over purely looks. Stop seeing women as a thing where you get laid and afterwards see if you like each other. Get to a point where you turn down hot chicks if you don’t align with them and you don’t feel like playing a role to get them.
/r/seduction16/11/24 10:45 AM
0

No one said it was easy. You come across as a guy that starts screaming at random people dude, go get some psychological help with your frustrations. And most women are perfectly fine getting approached by guys, just not in a creepy or hyena like way.
/r/seduction16/11/24 07:01 AM
-2

Guys reject people too, what’s your point?
/r/seduction15/11/24 11:14 PM
5

How to tell people you are unsuccessful with women ^
/r/seduction15/11/24 10:53 PM
28

As a guy you’ll get better quality girls in real life
/r/seduction15/11/24 10:01 PM
16

She wants you to follow her home and enter through the backdoor window and wait for her naked in the bed.
/r/seduction10/11/24 12:26 PM
1

I have had it happen several times over the years. A couple of times it was the woman saying I don’t want to have a one night stand and you dissapearing after. After which I said I’m not promising a relationship or anything but I won’t treat you bad and I’ll be honest about my feelings. After which they felt much more comfortable.
/r/seduction09/11/24 07:10 PM
2

You have to address this with her. Put it on the table make her feel comfortable and have her share what is holding her back. If you don’t you risk her losing attraction for it not happening despite her being the reason for it. I know it’s not logical but it happens, especially if you spent the night and nothing happened. Just sit her down and say what’s going on.
/r/seduction09/11/24 04:25 PM
1

All that work on yourself should have brought you to a place where not getting a girl does not hit you this hard. So back to the drawing board.
/r/seduction09/11/24 01:14 PM
3

All these things are a balance and they all Depend on the circumstances and context. If you are always asking women for validation, getting friendzoned, supplicating etc.. kick her fucking purse and don’t hold it. If you are a dominant masculine guy, you are messing with her, teasing, being independent etc. Hold the purse and she’ll appreciate it too. There is no black and white with game.
/r/seduction07/11/24 09:08 PM
35

Get comfortable being yourself. Stop looking to and at other people for validation. Accept yourself, get validation from within. Make sure shame is not something that’s a big part of your life. Build confidence and go for what you want. Accept failures and use them to grow and understand that they are a good and necessary thing that enables you to grow to get where and what you want. Enjoy the ride and be in the moment.
/r/seduction07/11/24 06:36 PM
2

God I hope this is a troll post. You are being used she doesn’t respect you and she has zero attraction to you, if you have any self respect you walk away.
/r/seduction29/10/24 10:16 PM
1

It’s Reddit, you see something and you comment that’s how it works. Im glad for you that it’s normal for you, congrats. Also good that you need to keep mentioning it, despite having nothing to prove and keep commenting while you don’t care. 👍🏻
/r/seduction23/10/24 08:16 PM
1

Please go tell more stories of how great you are with women and frame it as some weird complaint about a guy that is struggling with women.
/r/seduction23/10/24 06:12 PM
0

You think first before you make a dumb ass topic dude. The guy is literally asking for advice because he sees you do something he can’t do and after you make a long ass rant saying he can’t do it. No shit Sherlock.
/r/seduction23/10/24 02:22 PM
1

What did you expect from someone that asks you advice on how to pick up girls. If he would just make conversation with everyone and pick up girls he wouldn’t have asked you for advice now would he. 🤯
/r/seduction23/10/24 07:27 AM
3

They sense the neediness indeed. I’d say focus on your personal life, invest in getting some good friends around you and a fun life. If you have a good circle around you that make you feel loved, you won’t be approaching women to get some love and you can approach from a much healthier place.
/r/seduction19/10/24 12:05 PM
3

Yeah I usually invited myself over on/for second dates.
/r/seduction06/10/24 07:27 AM
3

My prime of dating, I moved back in with my mom into a 10m2 room and went on tea dates that cost me 5 euros in total. It’s all just excuses.
/r/seduction05/10/24 10:19 PM
0

Being yourself being honest and authentic, not playing a character and getting the experience that your worst fears don’t happen and nothing really bad happens when you do. This feedback will give you more confidence to be yourself. And help you accept and care less when people reject you or don’t like you. Realizing that (mark manson) some girls will like you and you don’t need to act different or impress them, other girls won’t like you and you can push there buttons to get them interested but…
/r/seduction05/10/24 10:11 PM
2

I think if you try to switch and just be someone or something else like that, you will be pinging all the time, like is it working? How are they responding?Are they going along? It will be impossible to just switch and be congruent and relaxed with it immediately. Do the inner work, become more confident in believing that you don’t have to entertain and that you are enough. And you’ll always have that special move in the bag of being high energy and the life of the party that guys like me don’t …
/r/seduction05/10/24 02:08 PM
4

With my friend it was mostly him being uncomfortable in silence like a girl, always entertaining and high energy. Looking around for confirmation and validation. We are polar opposites and I appreciate his ability to be the life of the party, but he got lots of gay assumptions. If that sounds familiar try to be more grounded and in touch with your masculine energy, to not give a fuck about how you are perceived . My friend got girls but it still bothered him a lot, I think it really was the disc…
/r/seduction05/10/24 09:11 AM
1

I don’t believe it actually works for anyone.
/r/seduction03/10/24 10:40 AM
2

Feelings based as opposed to rationality based. Focus on feelings how does something feel. Ask about feelings, learn how to activate feelings in people. Stop with all the rationality. Example: if someone says I want to open a surf school and surf the whole world. Don’t think of all the practicalities. How are you going to manage it with your kids, will your wife join, what about your current job etc but keep it light and fun feelings based. Wow that sounds amazing where will this school be? I ca…
/r/seduction01/10/24 12:06 PM
1

This will be your curse until you find someone that takes the lead, but for that kind of person to like you, you will have to work on yourself a lot.
/r/seduction27/09/24 06:09 PM
1

I think if you are 27 it’s fine to date 18 year olds. If it’s the most emotional healthy thing to do is a different discussion. There are plenty of 30-40 year olds trying to date 18 year olds and you are nowhere in that ballpark, so don’t worry.
/r/seduction23/09/24 08:21 AM
13

Being a saint or a good person is good if you are in touch with your dark side and control it. If you deny your darkside and are a harmless guy afraid of being himself and offending people and standing for what you believe and want, your saintness so to say is just another negative trait of an inauthentic person.
/r/seduction21/09/24 09:53 AM
1

Experiment with letting go of other people’s opinion of you and focusing on your opinion of you and your needs. That could be by not explaining things when you suspect people wrongly believe something. Or even making them think something. Example you could tell a girl you are gay and resist that urge to tell her it’s a joke. Thoughts may come up of her telling other people and the consequences. Just let them go accept them and slowely find out that you will be fine and nothing happens and that i…
/r/seduction17/09/24 08:10 AM
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Same as guys, develop a good personality. Make sure you are fun to be around, optimize your looks, look clean wear perfume, nice clothes, go for what you want, learn to deal with rejection, be vulnerable, make the first move. Be communicative, be reflective. Make someone feel good, listen to them, be caring but stay a bit independent and have your own fun life.
/r/seduction16/09/24 12:53 PM
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If you need to ask this question, I would advise to work on your touch level before bed. Ideally you are already so comfortable with touching each other that this shouldn’t be a question. So do the work before you get to this moment. If you are already touching a lot a kiss is such a small step that it’s not a barrier and from kissing caressing is a similar small step etc.
/r/seduction09/09/24 02:01 PM
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Honestly you shouldn’t have to worry about this. Your girlfriend should respect you enough to not go around and socialize with other guys especially in front of you. Or look for attention or validation from others. I’m not saying it’s the end of the world, but you do have an issue if your girl is open to validation from other guys and especially if she does that in front of you. Ideally I think you should involve yourself only when she is clearly not reciprocating and some guy keeps hitting on h…
/r/seduction02/09/24 05:06 PM
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I think when you stop playing the game as in when you honestly stop playing anting these women. They are more likely to open up to you. I think if you sleep with a couple and you find out it’s not what you think it is and you want them to leave asap after sex. You start to appreciate a woman with a great personality and values and you start to not pay attention or validate the “9’s and 10’s” and stop trying to act a certain way around them because you don’t care. Which in turn will make you the …
/r/seduction30/08/24 10:04 AM
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Im just guessing ofc but maybe you are insincerely rushing these things. I think its a fair assessment that you don’t build a connection and it seems like you do build attraction.
/r/seduction29/08/24 05:35 PM
1

Do you connect on a date, or is it all just fun and game? If not, share some personal stuff, listen to the girl ask her about things etc
/r/seduction29/08/24 04:19 PM
0

Show value and after show non neediness and willingness to walk away. That’s it.
/r/seduction29/08/24 12:04 PM
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Next time don’t weaken what you say with that “but if you want to it’s fine”. Personally I’d say I would like to spend time but with you 1on 1. So I’ll skip this one.
/r/seduction28/08/24 10:03 AM
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Keep a bit more distance don’t be too available from the start, challenge them, screen them, disagree when you do. Show that you are not afraid to lose them if you are not compatible, show you have standards. Don’t be needy. What you can do is date multiple women at the same time, it will make you less needy. The downside will be that as these girls do to you now, you’ll always feel like there is something better around the corner. But perhaps that is a problem for future you. In general take a …
/r/seduction27/08/24 01:45 PM
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It’s correct advise, but not that easy. Your true self for sure is your most attractive self. But it is hidden under layers of social conditioning, shame, anxiety, issues etc.
/r/seduction26/08/24 03:56 PM
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Nonsense, I did a bootcamp a long time ago and it was one of the most eye opening events I have ever experienced. It kickstarted my whole journey.
/r/seduction25/08/24 08:26 PM
2

I have had several times where I had this talk and they were kind of like ok yeah fair enough.
/r/seduction25/08/24 07:31 PM
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I do what this guy says. After a couple of times though, I sit her down and straight up tell her. I understand maybe you have some weak men in your life and you want and need to test me to see how I respond and react and that’s ok. But it is also starting to annoy me. You tested me I think I showed you my personality and I think you should have a good image of me already so ease it down with the shit. This is where I tell them to let me speak, stop interrupting me etc and I let them know I am Ok…
/r/seduction25/08/24 02:05 PM
2

Just joking✌🏻
/r/seduction23/08/24 04:18 PM
1

Is this “friend” in the room with us now?
/r/seduction23/08/24 01:56 PM
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Because most men are in a sad state. I believe it’s true, most women just want a guy to not be an idiot. But most guys have lots of trouble with that. They will brag when unnecessary, not be able to listen, be selfish, be childish and constantly need validation etc etc
/r/seduction19/08/24 10:43 AM
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Because it shows you can’t take care of yourself. How are you going to take care of her and a child? By the way I don’t think women feel this towards dating broke men, but moreso toward relationships
/r/seduction19/08/24 10:18 AM
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Here’s your answer^ no verbal escalation and no physical escalation = no attraction. And if she was religious or whatever excuse doesn’t matter it still holds.
/r/seduction18/08/24 12:45 PM
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✊🏻✊🏻
/r/seduction15/08/24 08:02 PM
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How it seems to work for me is if I look to the past. Where I didn’t have really good friends that I could talk to about anything for example. I was much more needy for a connection, validation, attention etc. So ofcourse it showed in my dealings with women. Just because I am content with the connections I have now with friends, doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like more. So to connect with a woman is very enjoyable and I seek it, but if it’s not there, or not happening, I am not as needy. Also I know I …
/r/seduction15/08/24 06:31 PM
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I recently had a discussion here with someone about this. I feel like my success did give me a positive feedback loop that slowly build my confidence, while at the same time theoretically I would 100% agree the confidence has to come from within and not from external success. I still think it’s a combination. And we can never fully break that feedback loop. We can ofcourse be very analytical about what we are doing wrong and what is outside our control in terms of results weather good or bad and…
/r/seduction15/08/24 04:31 PM
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I started around 18 and had so much extreme anxiety that I became a complete theoretical master with very little actual experience or action. Around your age I started getting success. Partially just from getting older and less insecure and partially from getting more experience and analyzing it. For me the biggest thing was in a way letting go of studying game all the time and realizing I’m a great guy. The more I went away from game and started working on myself, the more I felt and realized I…
/r/seduction15/08/24 07:31 AM
2

Than you need to let her know you wanted a one on one romantic date and not try to act like it was a social friends dinner while you had different intentions.
/r/seduction15/08/24 07:16 AM
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Start with making the convo feelings based. How did that make you feel? How do you feel about x? That must have felt awful. I love it when x. What’s your best memory. I remember when x ones o happy. I always enjoy x. What makes you the happiest. What do you do when you get angry etc etc
/r/seduction13/08/24 08:55 PM
2

Check mode one
/r/seduction11/08/24 08:47 PM
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Looking for a clear signal will mess you up. Just the general vibe is the signal. Is she enjoying? Is she not pulling back from touch ? Than she is enjoying and you should escalate .
/r/seduction11/08/24 07:24 AM
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Another post of someone that doesn’t understand something or is bad at something and is t able to take responsibility. Instead the world sucks everyone else is bad and evil. So much victim/ loser mentality in this generation. Edit: I know all about your situation, you are a standard victim. Everyone’s life is great but you get fucked over all the time blabla you deserve more blabla.
/r/seduction10/08/24 09:21 PM
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She functions just like you. When would you wait 25 hours to respond? Imagine a girl you like, would you ever wait 25 hours? That should answer what she thinks about you. Possibly she is just staying in touch for some validation.
/r/seduction10/08/24 04:46 PM
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I think if you have problems showing intent, aim to have sex on the first date. If you are a sexual being and you don’t have problems showing intent and maybe are too needy, aim to not be to needy and build some sexual tension and kiss but not go for sex necessarily on the first date.
/r/seduction09/08/24 08:46 PM
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You don’t. If you get a girl by gaming her, you will lose her when you are being yourself. That’s the pitifall of game. You can sleep with women that you wouldn’t be able to sleep with without game, but if she wasn’t attracted to who you really are without game, she’ll lose interest when you stop pushing her buttons. That can be after a week or after years, but it will happen. I think game should be used to get some results, build some confidence and gtfo and be yourself. If
/r/seduction06/08/24 07:19 PM
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Well put.
/r/seduction06/08/24 05:32 AM
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You look good, so your game sucks. It can be fixed and if you are willing to put in the work you will.
/r/seduction29/07/24 02:20 PM
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Interesting post, I will try to reread and watch your link when I have some quiet time. On topic, my personal journey reflects this issue. I worked to get some external validation and after a while noticed that it won’t enable me to skip the internal issues and work. That being said it also showed me possibilities that I didn’t imagine possible which I don’t think I could or would have been able to see, imagine or achieve without the external validation. I believe in a balance. In the end we are…
/r/seduction29/07/24 02:04 PM
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We agree on the states people are in but we disagree on the approach. I again don’t disagree with the premise that true confidence has to come from within and not from external sources and I am no way undervaluing inner work. But if there are layers of conditioning covering that confidence and making it inaccessible, sometimes you need some external success to be able to tell yourself hey I can do this, hey it’s possible. And back to the conditioning, a lot of people have been trained to think, …
/r/seduction29/07/24 12:06 PM
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Your post makes sense theoretically. Reality is different though. I’d say most people in this sub Reddit are the people that weren’t naturally blessed with this confidence. What you are saying is not incorrect, but it’s like saying just be happy to a depressed person and it’s not helping. The only way up here is to analyze strategize out jnto practise and repeat ad nauseum.
/r/seduction29/07/24 08:35 AM
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Yes very possible, short term no problem at all. But after gaming and in a long term relationship it will become an issue and you better score quite high on other things that make her really want to be with you, because she will get tested on it and will get confronted about it by her social circle.
/r/seduction26/07/24 05:46 AM
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Small step and short timeframe to sacrifice for eternal happi… uh misery.
/r/seduction24/07/24 01:59 PM
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Sacrifice your first born
/r/seduction24/07/24 12:45 PM
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I think a lot of these women have so much access to dates and or are serial daters. They don’t have the capacity for a real relationship anymore, they are just gravitating towards emotions and more excitement. You can game them, sleep with them etc but when they get back home you are just one of the many guys again. There are two options imo, either you finetune your game. More emotions more polarization more attraction creating etc and you’ll end up sleeping with them, only to break up or have …
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:10 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with that behavior, but maybe something else is showing like your position in the group, the way your friends treat you, justbthinking out loud
/r/seduction22/07/24 08:02 AM
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It might not be the relaxed cracking jokes with your friends that they are losing interest over.
/r/seduction22/07/24 07:25 AM
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-Victor the random frustrated dude that shouldn’t be giving out advice before he fixes his own huge issues.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:18 PM
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Observe and try. And you seem to be waiting to get into these situations, how about taking some initiative. It’s all about the non verbal, they don’t have to say nothing. Is someone smiling? Are they moving their body away? Are they interested and engaging you? Or are they just saying yes and no and looking around for something with more value to leave. It’s not rocket science just be in the moment more and more aware instead of just being stuck in your head and occupied with yourself. Feel and …
/r/seduction20/07/24 07:12 AM
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You need to rationally realize women love being touched love sex and intimacy, after you need to go and experience it in real life to get the positive feedback/reinforcement so you can internalize it. And you need to understand what a creep actually is, it is someone that doesn’t read the social cues/feedback. It’s not the putting of your hand on her leg that’s creepy, it’s the not taking your hand away when there is a cue it’s not the right time. So become aware of these cues simultaneously.
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:32 PM
1

But you don’t get laid?
/r/seduction18/07/24 08:19 AM
1

These kind of topics should just be deleted. There is no use. People just come here to wine and complain how much of a victim they are.
/r/seduction18/07/24 06:09 AM
1

What does “get a girl” mean to you?
/r/seduction18/07/24 05:48 AM
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“Creating a reason” will keep you in that same mindset that it’s creepy to touch, only you are maneuvering within that limited mindset to get some better results. So I fully disagree.
/r/seduction17/07/24 06:10 AM
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So how did you get to the conclusion you can get any girl when in reality it seems like you can’t get any girl?
/r/seduction17/07/24 06:08 AM
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I think you should and in the long term if it turns out it’s really not your thing you should look for alternatives. But only after you tackled the anxiety and did the uncomfortable many times.
/r/seduction07/07/24 04:25 PM
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It probably has 0 to do with being good in bed. You probably game too much. How about being yourself a bit, opening up, connecting. Sharing stuff, maybe not having sex on the first date. Showing interest, bonding. Having fun.
/r/seduction02/07/24 08:31 PM
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The only thing that helps is accept the feeling and move on. Make sure you have as many experiences As you can and with time it will fade, the older you get the more often you have gone through it so it will lose some of its power. The moment you date a fun person again it will slowely start to fade more. When you have good times with your friends it will be off your radar for a sec etc and before you know it, it went from daily thoughts to every couple of days to once a week etc.
/r/seduction27/06/24 06:13 AM
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Your attitude might show how your dates go as in you might have the feeling you need to impress them. Most of my dates have literally been 2 soft drinks. Go for a hike, go picnic at a park and if you are just trying to get laid just have them come straight to your house or go to theirs. If they like you they will have no issue with any of these options and in the worst case they’ll say I prefer to go for a drink first… spend 10$ that’s enough. Change your attitude from thinking you need this. If…
/r/seduction27/06/24 05:55 AM
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In my experience if you reject a girl in a good way, their attraction often grows and they will basically be available to you for anytime in the future.
/r/seduction18/06/24 09:45 AM
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Honestly I think we try to force things too often. Of course if you want to “secuce” you need to make this topic and use tactics but honestly. If it doesn’t flow there’s nothing wrong with you two not being a great fit. Maybe she is uncomfortable and you can address that. “Hey you don’t seem to say much everything alright?” It can spark a whole new topic and maybe she is just not that interesting.
/r/seduction10/06/24 09:43 AM
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I think it’s true for a socially awkward guy that has issues being sexual. In that case if you don’t at least go for the kiss, in a lot of cases a woman will lose interest. Be it only the women that don’t like you for you but that you are “gaming”. With a woman that likes you you get many chances to fuck things up before she loses interest. If you are a guy that comes across as a healthy sexual being and you can build attraction, it’s totally different and not kissing a girl can be powerful and …
/r/seduction28/05/24 06:06 AM
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This is the core of why people are unsuccessful and have big regrets. You have to understand that saying what you want and going for it is attractive. Weaseling around and manipulating is the opposite. Imagine a guy friend hanging out with you laughing joking but actually he wants to borrow money, but he is building a friendship to wait for the right moment when you are weak to borrow money. Think about what you are signaling to a woman with the just fiends approach. You are like a lowely hyena …
/r/seduction26/05/24 08:11 AM
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Nothing more cringe than people trying to show others they can speak a language. If you happen to speak it it’s a wow. If you learn something to impress and or show it in that context it’s a supplicating negative
/r/seduction14/05/24 07:28 AM
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Haha same with the autistic shit. I manage expectations and make clear what I want and require from a relationship. We won’t be going to no fucking club and if you are looking for trips to Dubai or expensive gifts I’m not your guy.
/r/seduction11/05/24 10:16 AM
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You are gaming. You make girls that aren’t in your bracket interested. Most likely you’ll never keep them without constantly pushing buttons (gaming). This is exactly what made me stop gaming and just being myself from the beginning. And you can’t blame the women, I mean in the beginning you are this fun mysterious guy. She’s not going to fall in love but you make things happen and push buttons and create emotions and suddenly you become a bit needy and boring, bye next.
/r/seduction11/05/24 07:42 AM
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I feel you, but isn’t it possible that when you allow the attachment it might be with the wrong category of women. That maybe because you actually like them a lot from the start and even though you act detached and keep your feelings at bay for a while, when you let go you have kind of ignored the orange flags of her not being in that “very much into you category”? I’m basically saying what happened a couple of times to me obviously.
/r/seduction10/05/24 07:11 PM
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I take it upon myself to create some magic. So I’ll share some things, show some personality, initiate a possible fun convo even if the woman is not engaging. But after I feel I showed my personality and she is still not engaging I’m out.
/r/seduction10/05/24 02:45 PM
2

That’s interesting to analyze. Are you faking a lot in the beginning and when you get really into her you get needy?
/r/seduction09/05/24 08:43 PM
4

Solid as in a child that doesn’t understand what a relationship is.
/r/seduction09/05/24 02:26 PM
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Honestly it’s not difficult to distinguish between a woman that is very much into you and one that is casually dating you. Maybe I’m naive but I don’t think I would get cheated on. Either a woman is very happy to be with me and trying to be with me as much as possible and very into me or she clearly keeps her own life a bit seperated and for example doesn’t post us on her socials. I really think for a lot of guys it’s very clear but their neediness will blind them to the obvious situation. I bel…
/r/seduction09/05/24 08:35 AM
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If you somehow feel the need to make a topic, it probably indicates you don’t feel comfortable just casually saying let’s go for drinks, I’d like the first meeting to be relaxed and casual, instead. Which already means you are either walking on your toes or the girl is demanding. Both red flags.
/r/seduction08/05/24 06:13 AM
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Lowering of standard on what? Looks or character, values etc. If you start accepting behavior you don’t agree with just to get laid you will be building habits that prevent you from having a strong frame and you will be unlikely to become successful with women higher on the status ladder who actually require you to not lower your standards.
/r/seduction05/05/24 08:46 PM
1

If it’s a “not yet” or “not in this place” rejection it increases attraction. And the way you deal with it is a large part of it.
/r/seduction05/05/24 06:50 AM
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It’s all fun until it isn’t anymore.
/r/seduction01/05/24 08:42 PM
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True. Especially the 5 months later is something I experienced. Sometimes they will put you in the situation to chase or lose contact and it feels like there is no good option. But that’s only because I want results instantly in that moment and usually when I just let it go 6 months later or a year later they pop up again. Sometimes to go through the same stand off lol. I guess attraction plays a big factor in it too in the sense that the more attracted she is the faster she’ll come and chase yo…
/r/seduction30/04/24 10:26 AM
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Im in a relationship, so no.
/r/seduction28/04/24 06:43 AM
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As I written above in a reply, pick up skills are acting like you got your shit together and live in abundance. The premise of my post is not don’t learn any pickup skills, but that working on yourself will be a better investment to focus the gross of your attention on.
/r/seduction28/04/24 06:42 AM
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Lets not forget the pick up skills are basicallly the mimicking of someone that has hit shit together and is living a lifestyle and has a mindset of abundance. I am not advocating the all or nothing, I am promoting the focus on inner game over outer game for long term results.
/r/seduction28/04/24 06:40 AM
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Comprehensive reading clearly isn’t your strong point.
/r/seduction27/04/24 05:21 PM
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You clearly only have the ability to read one paragraph. Maybe spend a little less time on TikTok and read something completely before you respond.
/r/seduction27/04/24 03:40 PM
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I think you need to deal with your own issue with your accent. Apparently it hurts you, that means you don’t feel good about it. If someone would jokingly say you are a girl you’d probably shrug it off and not let it influence you, but for some reason this hurts you. So deal with your own insecurity don’t expect randoms to cater to your needs. You might not want to hear all this but I also believe your insecurity/ incongruency is why people apparently feel comfortable picking on you(r accent). I…
/r/seduction27/04/24 02:31 PM
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Lol throw yourself off a bridge. Making fun of or pointing out an accent has 0 to do with racism. You npc
/r/seduction27/04/24 02:29 PM
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I think you are correct but your reasoning is wrong. Yes people teach to always lead and no you don’t always have to. It’s about what kind of person you are in general and for the average guy that is unsuccessful with woman and is kind of passive it’s good advice to try and always lead. If you became a leader it can be quite strong to allow someone else to lead for a change especially when they will feel they are allowed because you would instantly pick up the lead if they weren’t. It’s like all…
/r/seduction26/04/24 01:50 PM
4

Its strange to ask if you are not 13
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:46 PM
1

Rather more relationships than that she had a lot of one night stands
/r/seduction25/04/24 08:41 PM
1

Just take the hint. You are a very low priority to her. It hurts the ego but it is what it is and it’s a sign not to invest too much anymore into it.
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:48 PM
1

Maybe it’s age, but time is limited and I want to invest in relationships. I find superficial contact to be a waste of time compared to really bonding with someone. Lately I find sex without emotions a joke compared to sex with someone you really care about value and respect. So to answer a deeper bond with someone that likes or loves you for who you really are. /corny rant.
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:30 PM
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Don’t take this as a bashing because obv I don’t know you, but imo seeing this as an opportunity implies you don’t have quality women in your life and you would be content or happy about having low quality women in your life.
/r/seduction22/04/24 05:43 PM
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Admit but not accept imo. The only reason those attention whores become who they are and have no values or personality whatsoever is because weak men give them validation.
/r/seduction22/04/24 01:06 PM
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I don’t view it as an opportunity, I view it as sad. Guys are frustrated and can’t get women. Women can get those men but don’t want them. Later on guys that grew can get those women but don’t want them anymore and the women realize they can’t get the men they want.
/r/seduction22/04/24 09:58 AM
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Because a lot of women turn us on but do not correspond with our values, there is no long term future,but we can have fun and sex. Women seem to have the power with their sexuality and therefore often they don’t work hard on their character because they think they are the prize as opposed to guys that get none and start working on themselves. They use their sexuality for validation and attention and therefore we simply accept that and not view them as more or as a serious option.
/r/seduction22/04/24 07:06 AM
1

Amuse yourself first vs amuse others
/r/seduction20/04/24 01:47 AM
1

You 2 deserve each other
/r/seduction20/04/24 01:45 AM
1

It’s sad when someone thinks they are entitled to something after spending time energy and money on a date. No one asked you to spend money and if you don’t want to invest in relationships without wanting something back you are not someone I’d want to be around
/r/seduction20/04/24 12:14 AM
1

My whole game went from non existent to keyboard warrior (reading and watching all the material) to good. I wouldn’t recommend this way though. Instead of actually acting and learning from practicing I tried to avoid it by becoming a theoretical know it all. I think the best approach is where hounding avoid failure. Failure is the best teacher and motivator, so if I could do it over again I’d try to actually go out there and fail and afterwards go to the internet to assess and improve my stickin…
/r/seduction19/04/24 11:22 AM
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This^ a woman will test your frame by saying are you still playing with little dolls. A weak framed guy will for example get angry. Or defend his hobby, yes but I really like it because bla bla. Or even weaker would be: I mean i don’t spend that much time on it, lately I have been doing other things more. A woman will lose respect for you in all those scenarios. A strong frame would be not getting emotional over a frame test and also not having the fear she won’t like you because of it or if she…
/r/seduction18/04/24 02:02 PM
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Practise on literally everyone. A guy waiter? Touch him on the shoulder when you talk to him. Start hugging your friends, tap people on the arm when you adres them. Guide your grandma to the couch by holding her at the waist etc
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:17 PM
0

In a mosque
/r/seduction14/04/24 09:49 AM
1

Lol no
/r/seduction13/04/24 11:11 AM
1

While there’s.Nothing wrong with your suggestion it will most likely be extremely incongruent with his previous texting and ruin things
/r/seduction13/04/24 11:10 AM
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People just don’t seem to get it. It’s not being a jerk that works it’s not not putting energy in a woman that works. What is attractive is putting energy in yourself m, knowing what you want and going for it and not caring what people think. There is just overlap and that’s why some jerks get more women than nice guys, but people keep mistaking correlation with causation
/r/seduction13/04/24 08:32 AM
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Accept that confidence is your problem, if you do that you can actually work on it and improve it. Think about what your fear is when you would fuck up what would happen then try making small moves as small as need to be and find out that your worst fear probably won’t happen, that people won’t even notice much and that life goes on and build from there.
/r/seduction11/04/24 06:28 AM
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The higher her place in the market the bigger chance. And also the less she likes you the bigger chance.
/r/seduction06/04/24 02:15 PM
0

You are her gay friend. She probably met someone she is actually attracted to and is actually thinking about. Not trying to be an asshole, but you should learn from this. You went for the sneaky platonic route because you were scared to mess things up and now you see where that route gets you. You were slowely emasculated. She knows you want her, but she expects nothing in terms of manliness from you anymore, you have no more value, besides holding her hand and listening to how this new guy brok…
/r/seduction25/03/24 07:08 AM
2

It’s funny, I always figured looking like an action figure would get you all the girls. But all it got me were guys looking at me, walking up to me and complimenting me. Yes the women liked it too but not in the same way, I actually got the most success when I was a bit bigger at imo quite a high bodyfat percentage. Totally goes against what you would think. I think in my case it’s because I can come across a bit aggressive looking and being a bit less chiseled makes me look more like a boyfrien…
/r/seduction23/03/24 08:19 AM
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Say: I know where you live
/r/seduction21/03/24 02:48 PM
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Dude I didn’t have much success with women in my 20’s. My middle thirties I figured shit out and I kind of made up for all that frustration from my teens and 20’s and now I couldn’t give a fuck about hot girls and care more and more about personality. On topic, you can make up for it at a later age yes, especially if you stay emotionally underdeveloped like a lot of men, you can be very excited and pull hot girls when you get older. If it makes you happy is another discussion though.
/r/seduction17/03/24 08:58 PM
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It’s not, she desires someone that puts himself first and is not to be manipulated and toxic guys have more of that than nice guys. Even if it’s coming from a bad place an immature woman will often take that over a more healthy but weak man.
/r/seduction13/03/24 06:48 AM
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It will just show her your friendliness all this time was a plot to get her, that you were sexually or romantically interested all this time and can’t convey or communicate that, that you were too afraid. That you are not honest in your communication. That you don’t know how to deal with women. And many more negative treats. So just don’t. Fix your issues so this won’t happen again.
/r/seduction03/03/24 08:01 AM
1

Uhm no, that would be taking a shot at yourself. Taking a shot being better than not taking a shot doesn’t validate every thinkable action. An action can still be counterproductive.
/r/seduction03/03/24 07:56 AM
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So like you just said again, you are hurt.
/r/seduction02/03/24 04:55 AM
147

Yes you are hurt, you made a fucking topic about it on Reddit. It’s ok to be hurt by rejection. It’s not ok to lie to yourself and push away your feelings.
/r/seduction02/03/24 04:48 AM
1

You seem a bit touched in the head
/r/seduction25/02/24 09:20 PM
1

It’s not difficult it’s actually just being if you are a let’s say balanced healthy male. The problem is most of us got so fucked up and got so many issues just being normal and healthy is what seems to be so difficult.
/r/seduction16/02/24 12:06 PM
2

I seriously don’t get called that because I think I set a very different frame from the first interaction. I do call chicks bro though and they always get annoyed😁.
/r/seduction11/02/24 12:47 PM
1

Sure, they don’t take responsibility for their lives and their actions, they complain and expect things and are too occupied with themselves, they have no morals or values and act like sheep. They don’t go for what they want they go for what they can get and they want a woman to get validation.
/r/seduction02/02/24 08:04 AM
2

Online dating is amazing. Most men are just boys. Become a man.
/r/seduction01/02/24 05:48 PM
2

Don’t be a victim. Those same analytical skills can help you build protocols and analyze situation to continuously improve with women and eventually become much more skilled than a natural that just has a ceiling and no idea why he is stuck or not progressing.
/r/seduction31/01/24 12:26 PM
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The challenge is to recognize the difference between being yourself and just being lazy and acting like your issues exposing themselves is being yourself. You’ll need to do some soul searching on this clingyness and quite likely you’ll find an underlying issue eventually. Ofcourse dont change it if it was really you, but I doubt it.
/r/seduction27/01/24 10:07 AM
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I think these things like “can I kiss you”, “do you like me?”just show that you are unaware of the dynamics, that you can’t read the social cues and that you are not confident in your attractiveness or not used to women liking you, it shows insecurity. Is it the end of the world, no. Can you do it and still have success, sure. But over all I would say definitely negative and avoid if possible. Don’t even think about avoiding the difficulty and doing it over the phone dude. The fears you are havi…
/r/seduction09/01/24 06:32 PM
1

Use that frustration to analyze where it’s going wrong and improve until it goes right. That’s exactly why you feel that frustration, to motivate you to change things and improve.
/r/seduction07/01/24 09:21 PM
1

Rsd is real social dynamics and Tyler Durden is Owen Cook.
/r/seduction02/10/22 01:17 PM
1

How about getting something like a sales job, the slow approach while avoiding rejection is going to have you wake up in 10-20 years and realize you didn't really get much further. Imo there is only the way of diving in head first and not many people can just force themselves to do that, so that's why I think putting yourself in a situation where you are forced to deal with it could be a solution. You are going to have to get rejected a lot and deal with it, to slowely realize you'll be fine des…
/r/seduction07/08/22 02:01 PM
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"I’d rather find a best friend then fuck her" I call bullshit. I think you are saying this to yourself as a cop out in case you fail or get rejected. "I don’t need to go full sociopathic pick up bot that analyses every move and responds with the ideal response but I want to create more sexual tension that I do atm" This is your second disclaimer that will have your ego keeping you from successfully implementing or changing. Let go of this bullshit. You are uncomfortable with being sexual, that i…
/r/seduction04/06/22 01:58 PM
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You miscalibrated, so what. Don't beat yourself up over it, no reason to be embarassed or ashamed at all, you did what you could and at least had the courage to go and ask her out. Now try working on picking up the social cues better, so you can do a little better next time.
/r/seduction31/05/22 10:38 AM
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Don't overthink these things, I have been there, it ends with you playing a fucking role too much, you are creating a high treshold or bar for everything you say and do, which will sap your energy because you need to be walking on your toes constantly. Nothing wrong with havng some routines or thinking of some things, but you also need plenty of being yourself and having normal responses. Otherwise the moment you stop performing, the girl realizes you are not who you pretended to be and will los…
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:17 AM
1

“I like my coffee, how I like my women” Black? “No, without a penis”
/r/seduction27/05/22 09:10 AM
1

Just say “yeah, me too” and continue the convo. These disqualifiers usually are just a test to see if you get startled. People suggest it’s a personal preference and there’s nothing wrong with that, but that being said I think a lot of the times women are way more triggered by feelings and emotions than by rational “types”, I mean how often have we seen a woman say something about some guy like eegh he’s a creep or he’s totally not my type or I don’t like him only to be seen making out with him …
/r/seduction27/05/22 09:09 AM
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I think it is, but make sure you don’t use these girls as stepping stones, only date the ones you think have potential for something serious or be upfront from the beginning that you won’t be getting into a serious relationship with them and treat them good in general. Just be genuine in general, there is nothing wrong morally with dating a lot and sleeping with many women as long as it’s done with honesty.
/r/seduction27/05/22 07:58 AM
1

I do feel like the dynamics have changed. But than again maybe we changed. I don't buy that whole provider thing, I meet plenty of women that do not seem to care much about that.
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:19 PM
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Dude being needy is not the same as being vulnerable. Being vulnerable is not just blurting out all your weaknesses and putting them on another person. If you tell someone you basically just met that you are really into her that’s not being vulnerable that’s just giving in to your weakness. Being vulnerable is telling someone you are scared to death before you jump out of a plane. But you are still jumping, that is where vulnerability combined with bravery is attractive. Just saying you are scar…
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:20 AM
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I get the 6's and 7's from the apps and I barely cold approach. I figured I could get 7's and 8's from cold approach and I need to switch to that approach since the 7's on the dating apps seem to have so many options that like you said it usually lastst 1-3 months for me with them. Would you say the dynamic with the girls you cold approached is the same as the ones from the apps? As in they have the same or even more options?
/r/seduction24/05/22 11:39 AM
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I have never in my entire life, asked for consent to touch someone or do anything sexual. Congratulations on your wokeness I’m sure it will make you very happy and successful with women
/r/seduction22/05/22 08:09 PM
1

Did you go and get your friends to read this topic or something. Get over yourself, it’s childish but it’s playful, you didn’t need to write out your whole life story and all of your feelings. If you were bullied with your length I’m sorry for you but you will have to deal with it and process it and demanding the world to cater to your trauma instead of you dealing with it, is not the way. Don’t project all your life’s frustration on something random and harmless like this, “women are not allowe…
/r/seduction20/05/22 02:49 PM
2

Who is upvoting this bullshit
/r/seduction20/05/22 12:18 PM
1

Let me know before 5pm, otherwise I’ll make different plans.
/r/seduction20/05/22 08:08 AM
1

Ok so it’s not your feelings, please link me to the study or the stats that make it a fact. An experience is a feeling fyi. Just because I experience that you have the iq of a sheep doesn’t make it true, in reality you might be much smarter, “little buddy”. You know nothing about me, my race or my experiences, so your assumptions are just plain stupid.
/r/seduction16/05/22 12:35 PM
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Ah because you “feel” something it’s the plain truth, got ya. And all black guys that aren’t Whiney bitches like you guys and are successful with women, you’ll cherry pick some things that causes them to be successful in your eyes. If I were a woman I def wouldn’t date you with that childish victim attitude. But go ahead, more for us.
/r/seduction16/05/22 11:47 AM
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Another loser that needs to make a post again. Try to drag everyone down with you? Just because you suck and give up doesn’t mean others should or will.
/r/seduction16/05/22 11:43 AM
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You win the victim trophy of the week, congrats 🏆. On one hand it’s a refreshing perspective from the “only handsome guys get girls, it’s useless” on the other hand the “everything and everybody is racist” is also getting a bit tiring. But sure society is racist you can’t achieve anything with women because of society, done. I’m sure your victim mentality will bring you great things and many liberal white women.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:11 AM
1

Accepting that, saves so much wondering and hurt and self doubt.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:07 AM
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I don’t see the problem, you are being honest. I can’t be friends with hot women either. That’s just how it is for me and I accept that. I’m not going to orbit some hot chick with secret hopes of getting some scraps.
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:45 AM
1

That is actually ideal. If she likes you it works, if she's not into you, you can end the convo instead of wasting time on someone that isnt into you anyway.
/r/seduction10/05/22 10:56 AM
1

Please lay down somewhere and just give up on life.
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:30 PM
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Learn how to listen and ask questions. Have people tell you how they feel and be a mirror to them for their feelings. That will have you bond with people and make deep connections. Take yourself out of the conversation, at least initially, so no thinking what you are going to say while they talk, no advice, no judgement, no relating everything to your own stories and experiences. Make it about them ask them how they felt about things, why they did it, if they would do the same again etc etc . Wa…
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:29 PM
1

Sounds like excuses
/r/seduction08/05/22 12:35 PM
1

I think you should do whatever feels good to you and be ok with whatever is the outcome.
/r/seduction07/05/22 02:26 PM
2

If it’s cheap but insightful go for it, if it’s expensive or takes trouble to get and he isn’t that much into you (yet) it will be a sign of overinvestment and possibly make things feel forced down a path and take away the fun lightness of dating.
/r/seduction07/05/22 12:50 PM
1

If you felt Nothing you wouldn’t be talking about rejection, you’d just play the numbers game and do endless approaches until you get what you want.
/r/seduction07/05/22 12:47 PM
1

He’s not asking what a compliment is or what flirting is, he is asking about the push pull balance. On topic : i wouldn’t call it roasting, but in general I think you need to find a balance where you turn her on but also leave at least reasonable doubt if she could get with you. So you are beautiful, you are amazing, you’re so hot or the guy above’s examples without any push would make her feel like you are in her pocket, she knows you are admiring and drooling and it kills all the tention. So y…
/r/seduction07/05/22 08:26 AM
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You are either a sociopath, very out of touch with your feelings or gay and that’s fine. But there is literally no one (else) that when they go for what they want in life doesn’t have feelings that come with the act of taking action.
/r/seduction07/05/22 08:24 AM
0

Try approaching men, maybe that is the thing for you
/r/seduction06/05/22 11:38 PM
0

So how did you become friends, correct me if I am wrong but either you made a move she rejected you and you stayed orbiting her as a friend which doesn’t show much self respect or you tried to move in as a friend with an Alterior motive
/r/seduction04/05/22 07:55 PM
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Why do you call her your friend? And ofcourse she was comfortable with your company if you were her friend. So she knew you were into her but she wasn’t into you and still kept you around?
/r/seduction04/05/22 07:35 PM
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It implies you were friends with someone and hid your true intentions and than suddenly revealed them. So you deceived this person from the beginning and hid your true intentions and had a different motive than being friends. Imagine your guy friend that you hang out with suddenly starts stroking your leg or try to kiss you, like wtf.
/r/seduction04/05/22 12:48 PM
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The word “friend” makes it sound super creepy
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:51 AM
1

Women are so emotional, it’s usually random timing. Great date, but her ex calls her and she’ll ghost you and bad date where you do everything wrong but she feels lonely and you close. So same with re-engaging, the question is , do we want to chase people that treated us badly and if we do what does that do for us.
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:55 AM
2

Ok so go away, why are you still here if everything is so useless
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:53 AM
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There is no “should” sometimes it will be super passionate and sexual and sometimes it will be more gentle and shorter like hey we like each other and we are getting to know each other. All depends on the context, hook up vs potential long term relationship, depends on your game aggressive and sexual vs timid and passive, depends on the vibe you guys have, strong physical attraction vs interested. Anyway there are no rules and I think you should do what you want and not try to adept necessarily …
/r/seduction02/05/22 09:04 AM
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You feel in touch with your manliness and you feel you just went for what you want from life which translates to all areas in life, I rarely feel as good as I do after an approach when I pushed myself through my fear. Stop being a negative bitch.
/r/seduction02/05/22 07:53 AM
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I wasn’t giving you advice
/r/seduction01/05/22 01:11 PM
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You don't have to fake interest. and you don't have to make anyone think they are interesting if you don't think they are.
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:34 PM
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You are talking about faking interest and literally mention conning a woman into thinking that’s she is interesting.
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:24 PM
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I think you need to work on your passive aggressiveness and self respect by stating your boundaries. As you can tell it doesn't actually feel good to surpress who you are just to get something you want . (paying the bill, being all nice and friendly with a girl that rejected you) and afterwards basically blaming the other person for the bad feeling instead of viewing it as your own weakness/ flaw. I think that is the deeper issue here and why you get into these unhealthy situations. You can get …
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:51 AM
0

Kind of a sad vision of life you have.. basically you feel like you need to con someone into sex or a relationship. Says something about your self worth.
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:41 AM
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I think you should actually blame yourself most times it doesn't work out. Now I do, blame my skills and definitely not who I am. So I will always try to improve after every failure or rejection and this mindset has helped me a lot. Even in situations where we are probably just not a good match, I'll try to find things where I can or could improve on. I don't think things like I'm not good enough anymore, I think in terms of.. hmm apparently I didn't build enough attraction or I could have escal…
/r/seduction01/05/22 08:50 AM
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To be fair, 99% of girls will say that so they don't appear slutty. Maybe they even believe themselves, that they are looking for that one guy that sweeps them off their feet. But they probably have some unrealistic image in their head of someone way above their level. So they just do hookups in search of that one utopic guy. It's normal now dude, I have amazing dates, great connections and good sex all the time and these women seem pretty emotionally healthy and plenty of tiems I get ghosted or…
/r/seduction01/05/22 08:41 AM
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Haha I was lightly exaggerating to make the point that it doesn’t feel as special as it used to before and instead of influencing me for days now it’s like ok that was fun, but I have stuff to do and attend to I wonder when she leaves so I can get to it. So I actually agree with the op that it’s quite useless to just sleep around as much as possible, I think I did need to go through it though to find some confidence and self worth and sort of know that I can/ could, but it doesn’t fulfill me and…
/r/seduction01/05/22 07:51 AM
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Maybe we can, I don’t know, I just know nowadays when I sleep with a new woman, I am wondering about my laundry and groceries. I think the head in the clouds maybe comes from experiences that indicate you are much better than you deep down think of yourself maybe, so it’s like an unbelievable experience
/r/seduction30/04/22 06:36 PM
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Its something that’s cool and a dream from a needy perspective. The first women I slept with had me walking with my head in the clouds for days and i always kept count on how many women I slept with and every one was a huge deal. That’s pure scarcity for you.
/r/seduction30/04/22 04:24 PM
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"May I"as in "May I watch while you have sex with other guys?"I presume
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:55 AM
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Can't believe what I am reading, also can't believe you ^ have a healthy sex life.
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:54 AM
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Exactly you can’t imagine because you have no idea what you are talking about yet you feel the need to give out advice. Anyway I apologize for maybe coming off to aggressive at you.
/r/seduction30/04/22 08:25 AM
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Man shut up, almost no serious lifter has sessions under 90 mins. I hate when fools just repeat some dumb ass random out of context study, you probably didn’t even read the study but just saw one random article and now you are giving advice
/r/seduction30/04/22 07:55 AM
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I suggest you rethink your idea, you are just procrastinating what you will have to go through anyway. The more time you will spend in your comfort, holding this off the more comfortable you’ll get and the harder it will be to do something about it.
/r/seduction30/04/22 07:47 AM
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Its all about expectations you set. First off I never go out to eat with a woman on say the first three times we meet. So when we go to eat we already had sex and we already know each other a bit. I don’t date superficial women so your issue just never happens. Either they take me out to dinner or I take them and they 95% of the time offer to pay or they pay the drinks or the ice cream after or they cook for me the date before or after. If they want to go for dinner on the first date I literally…
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:25 AM
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You are the male version of those girls that show their ass on their Tinder profile. They think their value is their body and they complain that guys treat them badly and they can’t find a good man and men objectify them. Come on dude, you clearly don’t value yourself so don’t expect others to do it for you.
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:03 AM
1

It's fucking childish.
/r/seduction28/04/22 05:53 PM
1

Yeah so sounds like you basically pretended to be her friend for a year nd after a year you betrayed her trust by suddenly showing you had a different motive all along. If my best guy friend would suddenly tell me he was gay and liked me I would also be pretty upset. Ot, as an adult I think it's never appropriate and its always better to just straightforwardly communicate what is up.
/r/seduction28/04/22 04:27 PM
1

Always use it. Make sure to use it, it should be very clear you are romantically interested. Also the wow calm down blabla sounds like a shit test
/r/seduction28/04/22 04:24 PM
1

This is the way, although dogs are tricky since literally everyone looks at their dogs and than looks at them so I find that one triggers a different response often.
/r/seduction27/04/22 09:40 AM
1

You just scroll through and answer the ones that really stand out or make you feel like responding and you ignore the rest and tell them to at least use a good pick up line and not just say “hi”
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:25 AM
1

Haha please do, interested in your findings.
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:23 AM
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Id say it’s you being scared of losing to someone else and her leaving you for them. Just a thought but imo worth examining if it applies to you, if it does it’s a scarcity mindset that will give you a lot of problems down the line, when we think from that scarcity mindset we want to “own” someone else and we often feel like a relationship is an agreement we made and discard that it’s a dynamic feelings based thing especially for women. So when they break up with us because they don’t feel it an…
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:17 AM
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Dont do that, I’d even say assume she is seeing others even if she is not. You have to take the dynamics of how things are nowadays into account. Even if you don’t agree with them. These dynamics make the progression of a relationship change in a way that there is a longer period of less investment. If you ignore this you will end up emotionally overinvesting and getting needy and scaring the other away and being left frustrated. The best thing to deal with this seems to be to have different lea…
/r/seduction26/04/22 07:34 PM
2

That stumbling in the dark really resonated with me, at the same time don't let it be an excuse.
/r/seduction26/04/22 07:08 PM
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Yeah it’s true, women probably don’t know the debt of insecurity and loneliness a lot of guys have to go through, but what I mean is those feelings that rock bottom is what motivates us to take control take power back and grow in life, where a lot of these women are on the same level as a lot of guys that have no morals personality skills etc the difference is since they still get attention, be it from people they don’t want, it keeps them from Hitting that rock bottom and thus a lot of them jus…
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:49 PM
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Yeah, because of all the attention all those losers give women and reinforce their bad behaviors they operate in a bubble, way over their value. A lot of men enviously hate on women for that reason, but these women are stuck in their own prison. They behave like idiots, ghost people, have ridiculous stuff in their bio’s, post pictures of their asses and objectify themselves and don’t understand why guys objectify them too and why they will never get the guys they want. We as men have a tougher h…
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:23 PM
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Haha I hate myself for having analyzed these kinds of things 😆
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:17 PM
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As a fellow overanalyzer, I found looking women directly in the eye is not really working if you spot them first which most of the time you’ll most likely do since you seem an overanalyzer and probably also very consciously aware. What I do now which works is I focus on something about the women that is not her face, so her bike her shoes her pants whatever. What this does is it draws her attention to you since you are looking at her, but you can still have that moment where you notice her actua…
/r/seduction26/04/22 01:07 PM
1

Stop feeling sorry for yourself so much, it radiates from your post. Work on being yourself and not being so outcome committed.
/r/seduction26/04/22 12:18 PM
1

God I hope this is a joke
/r/seduction25/04/22 02:15 PM
6

Hey man just want to tell you the first time I went abroad for a longer period alone, I experienced the loneliness you are afraid of, it was a tough time. But in hindsight it was one of the best times of my life in terms of finding myself who I was who I want to be, what I actually appreciate in life and in people. If it gets to that point where you are lonely and feel the pain, good don’t run away from it feel it sit with it, it’s the drive that will propel you into life, it will give you the d…
/r/seduction23/04/22 08:07 AM
1

Its a normal Thing to feel In todays society.
/r/seduction21/04/22 03:47 PM
1

Your friends are not real friends or you are a narcissist. Can’t really tell, but something is def off with your post.
/r/seduction20/04/22 02:47 PM
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Came to post this ^ it’s not like we don’t have enough victims whining over whatever it is that is holding them back and the reason why all seduction is useless, making daily posts.
/r/seduction19/04/22 03:08 PM
2

These are very insecure people, they don’t know how to act, it helps to feel sorry for them instead of feel bad or get angry.
/r/seduction16/04/22 07:00 PM
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Glad to hear dude✊🏼 next time do tell her to get up and move over. Challenge your boundaries. For reference I spend a long time thinking how to sit next to girls on a couch when they often would sit down with some distance in between us and I thought it would be awkward to just sit down against them, until I figured I could just say hey come sit here next to me. And if you get friendzoned for lack of escalation, this good experience was a “bad date”, imagine how good “good dates” will be for you…
/r/seduction16/04/22 06:57 PM
1

That was the point I was trying to make with the 3 year old example, I get the confusion since I wrote “doesn’t get” as an absolute, but I meant it in a way that if you have your shit together and are mature generally some kid isn’t going to be able to manipulate you and if there is going to be manipulation it’s going to be the other way around
/r/seduction16/04/22 09:44 AM
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I think the American thing of a 19 year old dating a 18 year old being wrong is retarded. I do think you change a lot in those 16-20 years so often a 16 year old will have a total different life and be a total different person than a 20 year old, but I don’t have a problem with it. I think we are also both not really invested in this discussion tbh, I also don’t necessarily have a problem with a 38 year old dating a 21 year old, it will raise my eyebrow though.
/r/seduction16/04/22 09:22 AM
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Your brain isn’t fully developed until around 25, in many places you can enlist in the army at 12 have children at 12 etc
/r/seduction16/04/22 09:05 AM
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A mature emotionally healthy guy, doesn’t get manipulated by a 21 year old, he is the one playing games with her or at least the one that clearly sees what she is trying to do and where she is at in life. And yes that can also be the case with a healthy 18 year old guy and an immature 23 year old woman. My point is, it’s not about age difference it’s about the difference in emotional maturity that is an unhealthy problem, but in general as the age gap gets bigger that difference also gets bigger…
/r/seduction16/04/22 09:01 AM
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I literally said it’s a case by case thing and it depends and also your point about 21 year olds being able to manipulate too, a 3 year old can manipulate you too, so that’s not really a point imo.
/r/seduction16/04/22 08:48 AM
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Like mentioned, date other people. When you have multiple options sort of competing it’s very hard for you to ignore bad characteristics or actions. Since there is less scarcity everything is much clearer and healthier. She stood you up, ok cool, you’ll invest less in her. She has some values that don’t align with you? You’ll pull more towards other girls or look for more. All as opposed to the scarcity of that one girl you are dating and need to get all your sexual needs from and your emotional…
/r/seduction16/04/22 08:43 AM
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I get tired of these fucking posts, it has been explained ad nauseam. It’s about guys who put themselves first and go for what they want and have that as a priority over caring what others think about them, guys that take risks and are confident. It has little to do with being a gentlemen or not, it just happens that a lot of self absorbed assholes or narcissists do have these attractive treats. Seriously why does every fucking guy that has a stupid epiphany feels the need to make a topic and sh…
/r/seduction16/04/22 08:39 AM
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I don’t think being 29 and dating 21 is any issue, however early 20’s can be children. You say people act like they are somehow still children and a lot of times they are, it just depends on compared to who. If you are a grown man with a developed personality and some intelligence it is creepy to be with a 21 year old. Physically I totally get it these women are simply hot, but a relationship is where it gets weird and manipulative and sure there are very mature 21 year olds and a lot of very em…
/r/seduction16/04/22 08:23 AM
3

You need to understand concepts and mechanisms behind things. There is so much valuable stuff in pick up, be it to get women, self development or business skills. If you are memorizing things you are learning gimmicks, lines to say, that is surface level almost useless stuff. Most people that make those dumb ass posts lately about pick up not working either don’t understand things or their ego tells them they don’t need it or it doesn’t work after either Getting rejected or getting one girl one …
/r/seduction15/04/22 03:15 PM
2

I don’t understand what people don’t get. Showing emotions is a positive, whining like a little bitch and complaining is not. There is a difference in saying fuck I’m nervous as fuck for event x, but I’m going to kill it. And saying I don’t want to go why me blabla. It’s strong if you dare to be vulnerable and be honest about your fears and despite your fears still do the things you are scared of. That shit is attractive and admirable and not to be confused with guys letting go and being weak bi…
/r/seduction13/04/22 04:32 PM
1

For sure, I am just saying you don't need the whole seduction thing in general, saying exactly what you think and being honest can work just fine, but it's indeed a choice to make and as it always is the case with being honest, there can be consequences and that is why most people lie and pretend.
/r/seduction12/04/22 05:29 PM
1

If she would be really uninterested, she would walk away or tell you to fuck off. If she is telling you, you dont talk to a woman like that or something similar that is definitely a congruence test. She can be mad because of her programming, but that doesn't mean she can't be turned on by your boldness at the same time and be interested. It's obviously a thin line and some social intelligence is necessary to make sure you are not in fact harassing people, but there is definitely something there.
/r/seduction12/04/22 05:25 PM
1

I think the directness can work fine, but you have to be fucking congruent with it. You can't tell a woman you want to take her home and fuck her and when she starts testing your congruence by yelling at you that you have no manners or whatever, you can't get apologetic or break character.
/r/seduction12/04/22 09:29 AM
1

I think, women have much more daily emotional highs compared to us, so when a date was amazing for us we can't imagine she is not thinking about it like we are, while in reality she has many experiences like that. So the next day she is super excited and all focused on seeing her friends and the day after she is all super emotional about x. While we usually have much more boring lives and these dates that went well are some sort of crazy peek for us. Basically scarcity of good emotions. I think …
/r/seduction12/04/22 09:17 AM
1

Yes and afterwards, it wasn't worth it.
/r/seduction11/04/22 04:49 PM
5

Its a hard road, but every little win will feel amazing, don’t accept the idea of being an introvert it’s very fucking limiting, everytime you’ll get out of your comfort a little your ego will pull you back because you are an “introvert” as long as you’ll have that image of yourself you’ll never be out there being social without your ego pulling you back eventually. Just make little trips outside of your comfort zone and those will slowely build your confidence, work on the issues and anxiety yo…
/r/seduction11/04/22 08:41 AM
9

Yeah while he is out on bail
/r/seduction09/04/22 04:19 PM
69

I think you should break in to her appartment trying to get the note back and get busted while going through her panties looking for the note and I can already see you explaining everything to the cops. Love it
/r/seduction09/04/22 03:18 PM
5

That sounds a bit emo, just say I’d prefer to have a date with just us.
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:19 PM
2

She can be attracted to you, but she can also be attracted to 5 other guys and be more attracted to them. This shit is always very clear. If she is really into you, she will find a way to reply fast, because she is afraid of losing you. I have had dates with girls where I was 100% sure they were totally into me only for them to flake on me the next date and there is girls where I know they have a demanding job and cant be on their phone and yet they find a way to tripple text me 5 times a day. N…
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:33 PM
1

This guy is talking nonsense. She might really like it, she might hate it. Who knows.
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:29 PM
2

I have set way too many dates for a week later and its far from optimal, a little more spontaneous or 2-3 days ahead seems much better, after you set the date keep talking for a bit, so its not like ah i closed the deal, i was just talking to close the deal. I totally feel your point 2 and if you just want to fuck it might hold some truth, that being said, if you are looking for compatible people that you have a genuine click with. Just talk about whatever you want and you'll have something else…
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:11 PM
2

I agree, I am very successful with the apps, but I know that there is still that hole in my skills, that I am avoiding fixing. I feel it deep down that if I see a beautiful woman I just want to approach and go for what I want and I die a little bit on the inside everytime I don’t
/r/seduction06/04/22 04:17 PM
2

I don’t get rejected a shit ton and therefore I know I am Not getting the results I could be getting.
/r/seduction06/04/22 08:07 AM
-1

Yes
/r/seduction04/04/22 04:21 PM
1

Hahaha, you vote republican next time, that’s how you change it.
/r/seduction04/04/22 09:09 AM
1

I need directions….. to your heart
/r/seduction03/04/22 04:41 PM
1

Yes, don’t worry. It’s all about time you put in, experience you gain and how you analyze it and better yourself.
/r/seduction31/03/22 01:38 PM
1

I don’t think there is a difference between it being a guy or a girl, I do think there is a difference in someone hitting someone they know they can’t hurt vs hitting someone they know they can hurt
/r/seduction31/03/22 10:06 AM
1

Your black and white thinking is not practical, if you have a kid and he hits another kid out of frustration. Are you going to have him adopted? Or are you going to sit him down and see what his frustration is about and show him a way to express that in a better way?
/r/seduction31/03/22 10:04 AM
1

I agree, but like you say, boundaries should be made clear first and that’s what I am proposing. To set up a clear boundary, communicate that and even offer to help her change by being supportive. Also while I agree violence shouldn’t be accepted it also solves little to discard people or brand them for life (cancel culture) cast them out, Whatever. It won’t change their behavior and probably make it worse. It might not be your responsibility and for sure not in a relationship, but if you care f…
/r/seduction31/03/22 09:58 AM
1

I think everyone deserves chances and I am more interested in peoples potential and their will to change and grow than where they are at right now. Maybe she never had anyone show her what a healthy way is to deal with her issues, now I wouldn’t look for a damaged person like that myself so I totally get your reaction, but the guy is basically already in a relationship with her. And I get your role reversal example too, but don’t think it’s the same, this sounds more like a bratty child asking f…
/r/seduction31/03/22 09:57 AM
0

You shouldn’t assume peoples behavior in that way. It’s very likely to happen, yes. But you still should give people the chance and agency and they might surprise you and if they do change it deepens your bond a lot. Yes you are investing more, but that’s the whole idea of a relationship, to both invest, not to “not get hurt “ by being emotionally unattached. Be vulnerable but with clear boundaries.
/r/seduction31/03/22 09:21 AM
0

How about first telling her to stop doing it and give her a chance to think about it and change it
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:41 AM
1

I get it and maybe it’s the best thing to do so you clearly know where you stand. Imo it’s much better to have her reject you than to sort Of be friends with this unsure feeling. Just know it’s probably a 99% chance of not ending well. But than again I also don’t think it’s healthy to be friends with someone that you are actually into anyway. As for actual advice, I think I’d just start making moves flirting a little to test the waters and see if she reciprocates, call some characteristics hot o…
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:50 PM
2

Don’t text what’s up Or hey. It’s value taking nonsense that has no purpose. I’m not down with the whole never text and only set up dates nonsense either, but at least bring some value when you text her.
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:41 PM
1

Being communicative about what you want is super attractive to women, the difference between wanting to fuck her and telling her you want to fuck her can be so big in terms of what it does to her emotions. I know it can be scary but that courage to do say it is exactly what women find attractive and turns them on. I don’t understand your question, It def didn’t hurt it made everything 10x better.
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:36 PM
2

Depends, necessary for what? I have had sex with plenty women in the past without any man to woman verbalisation. So in general Is it necessary? No. But do you want to become a better man that works on his weaknesses and is unapologetic and goes for what he wants and says what he feels? Because it seems like you are looking for the shortcut, the cheatcode, the easy way to the prize. If you do conquer your fears and inhibitions and work on that man to woman talk you’ll discover a new level of exc…
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:31 PM
5

I don’t think you should suddenly show romantic interest in a friend, in short: you fucked up 2 months ago
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:24 PM
-1

I wasn’t referring to that, I’m referring to the Elon musk, bill Clinton type of top tier people.
/r/seduction30/03/22 01:05 PM
-2

I think that’s different from Having a fire burning inside of you to Conquer, like a thirst gratins never satisfied
/r/seduction30/03/22 01:04 PM
0

Not sure if related enough, but I always figured these 0,5 or whatever % of the elite succcesful men. Have such crazy drive in life (imo coming from trauma, but that’s a total different discussion) they just need to conquer everything and get and do more and more and it will never be enough and I think women are a part of that, so it makes sense to me that a guy like that would never be monogamous or actually happy with one woman and I do think for a woman to be with basically a conqueror like t…
/r/seduction30/03/22 12:10 PM
1

In general you are right, that being said if someone hasn’t seen you before and does see you that changes it a lot vs someone that has met you and clearly isn’t into you. It’s still obv a red flag in the way she handles things, but I don’t think there are many emotionally healthy 18 year olds
/r/seduction30/03/22 11:49 AM
1

Dude you want something, but you don’t want to put in the effort. You don’t want to take pictures you don’t want to approach. Don’t do nothing and yet feel bad for yourself that makes 0 sense. If you want something you put in effort and go for it, otherwise you don’t really want it, if you are sort of waiting for it to magically happen. That’s cool too, go and wait till your co worker one day magically decides to approach you, but don’t complain that you are not getting results with no effort.
/r/seduction29/03/22 08:12 AM
1

How about you go outside with a camera and ask women if they want to take your picture for your dating profile, you can ask them for advice and poses you can flirt with them and make jokes, or ask them to be in pictures with you, it seems like you could use the practice too
/r/seduction29/03/22 08:08 AM
1

To me I view it as another step in the escalation process between first contact and getting what you want, whatever that is. It’s also a step that can make you more attractive to her because you escalate and go for what you want and you lead the interaction towards the place where you want it to go and women usually appreciate that a lot. So I’d say it would be a good habit to incorporate
/r/seduction28/03/22 12:53 PM
1

Ill take dating apps as an example because I never ask for social media or would I care much to have hers, I’ll text on the app for a bit, make some flirtatious convo back and forth some jokes and when she is clearly enjoying it which I call when she is on an emotional high note, (shows by her response time, the amount of investment she puts in the convo which shows by how much she types in her answers like “ok cool” vs “ omg ikr I was there last week blabla” )I’ll tell her to add me on WhatsApp…
/r/seduction28/03/22 12:11 PM
9

So now you make a topic to pull others down with you on your “loser, I give up path” so you don’t have to feel alone down there ?
/r/seduction28/03/22 10:41 AM
2

Well In general I’d say attraction builds when you don’t care much about social rules and walk the line, I’d start with that. That being said I’d say the intent must be very clear, so it should be very obvious that you are attracted to her from your body language to your words and you should have a goal with the interaction, which could be something like getting to know her to see if you guys are a good fit or it could be to just have sex and the lines and words will come when your intent is cle…
/r/seduction28/03/22 09:36 AM
1

If you are already flirting and it’s clearly a man to women convo and you are showing intent it’s not awkward. It’s awkward when you are pretending to be a nice guy that talks about platonic stuff and you suddenly make it man to woman by asking for the number. That being said, just say hey put your number in my phone (we’ll go for a coffee sometime soon. ) and hand her the phone . The more normal it becomes to you the more normal it will be for her and women give out there number anyway even whe…
/r/seduction28/03/22 09:18 AM
4

The way she writes, they seem a match made in heaven tbh
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:30 AM
15

Look dude, I’m not your enemy or trying to attack you, I just gave you some feedback on something that might hold you back.
/r/seduction22/03/22 09:28 AM
185

You talk about simps, yet you basically say you would want to play a girl and get her just for her looks. So you have no standards and you have no morals and you want to experience power and abuse it because you feel women do it, so you are also angry/ resentful like a simp, yet you want to be perceived as high value.
/r/seduction22/03/22 09:12 AM
4

I hate these topics, you wait a month to have sex. So you probably did everything wrong and just got lucky this girl didn’t friendzone you and she took initiative and yet you are here making a topic about it like you are proud of yourself. These things are about the process not the outcome and you fucked up imo. These topics are on the level of “I ate blueberries and had sex that day” so I recommend everyone to eat blueberries, I’m a pro now that should teach others. I’m happy for you dude, don’…
/r/seduction21/03/22 09:14 AM
7

It could be plenty of things, there clearly wasn’t that much attraction going on. So she might be quite mature actually in not wanting to hurt you instead of just keeping you around because she enjoys the connection you guys have. Her ex that she shares a past with might have contacted her, she might have had 5 other dates with one where there was more attraction. Could be many things. Fact is you are overinvested and that usually radiates. I have been there several times, where our rational bra…
/r/seduction19/03/22 12:26 PM
2

I think it’s usually a sign that you are not comfortable being yourself around someone, you think who you are won’t be enough, not interesting enough not fun enough not good looking enough whatever. So you need to accept that maybe you guys are not going to work out, that that’s a possibility you can do nothing about and no level of faking or posing will fix that. That can free you up to just be yourself and not pretend and to be ok with whatever happens/ is the outcome.
/r/seduction19/03/22 08:35 AM
1

You win the prestigious, victim of the week award 🥇 congrats dude!
/r/seduction17/03/22 04:56 PM
2

Yes, it’s a bad idea
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:01 PM
2

You sound like totally afraid of getting rejected, so you are afraid to operate outside of the what are “generally accepted polite norms” the counterintuitive problem with that, is that most attraction is build outside of those norms. So you need to become More comfortable with the option of getting rejected. It will come down to the battle between going for/ getting what you want vs what people think of you. You need to make the former more important for yourself. Take some small chances be edg…
/r/seduction17/03/22 09:36 AM
2

So you have been manipulative and dishonest with her all this time. You are attracted to her but you pretended to just be friends without showing sexual interest. You tried to befriend her because you thought that would help you with your real intent. Maybe think about how dishonest that is and how weird it is to suddenly show your intent after faking not having it. It’s like someone befriending you only to borrow money and when he suddenly asks for money you realize that was the plan all along
/r/seduction15/03/22 03:42 PM
1

Don’t worry, I have messed up many Netflix & chills in the past. So don’t be afraid if you are not into her, nothing has to happen. You can just watch the show, talk a bit and end the night without any awkwardness and still both have a fun night I am assuming the is was your problem right? That you might have to be with her without knowing if you are going to be into her, otherwise I don’t see the issue
/r/seduction14/03/22 03:15 PM
2

Sounds like classical not making the interactions man to Women, not showing intent. Is it clear in the Interactions that you are interested romantically or sexually or are these interactions platonic, fun and friendly like the gay best friend type?
/r/seduction14/03/22 03:12 PM
3

Total bullshit, no idea why this gets upvoted. You did nothing wrong, ignoring someone is basically showing you are emotionally hurt and can’t deal with it. I’d personally Greet here with a huge friendly platonic smile, let her feel awkward like she is supposed to for behaving like a child. Ghosting is so childish it’s also a red flag for me, it’s perfectly fine that she wasn’t into you so I wouldn’t be angry mad or sad but I’d lose interest over the way she handled the rejection. So again I’d j…
/r/seduction14/03/22 11:06 AM
1

For me, huge effect, for some of my friends it seems to make absolutely no difference.
/r/seduction09/03/22 03:04 PM
2

She is planning to murder you
/r/seduction07/03/22 08:43 AM
2

That was the joke 😑
/r/seduction02/03/22 08:32 AM
22

“You look endearing madam”
/r/seduction01/03/22 10:57 PM
1

When a woman tells you she misses that spark and just wants to be friends, she doesn’t want to be friends either
/r/seduction01/03/22 10:55 PM
1

Tell her you really like her but as friends. That is literally the situation where friendzoning is for
/r/seduction01/03/22 04:11 PM
1

Sounds like she came just for sex, so getting to know one another, potentially having a relationship was already off the table so she came for sex and that didn’t went smoothly, so it kind of makes sense to cut it off I guess. I think we as guys sometimes just want to fuck and not do the relationship thing and than feel hurt when the girls actually do what we basically wanted them to do
/r/seduction28/02/22 06:55 PM
1

It works when she is already really into you and even than it only works when it at least seems legit. If she knows you have shit going on she will sense you are either not interested or playing games. The only time I’d intentionally not give a woman the attention I want to is when I’d feel needy and too much into her. Making her jealous is a whole different topic and a slippery slope too. It will work to make a neutral girl interested, but if someone is genuinely interested and you want to play…
/r/seduction28/02/22 03:08 PM
1

I already gave my victim of the week award 🥇 away yesterday, otherwise you would have definitely won.
/r/seduction26/02/22 04:37 PM
1

She did nothing wrong, take responsibility over your feelings and treat her normally. Now the healthy thing would obviously be to move on and focus on other women, but if you are going to obsess over her anyway, kissing is nothing and you being emotionally reactive to it will kill your chances and you being ok with it might leave the path open to getting your girl. highly advise to let it go though, I don’t believe women will change their mind and fall in love with you after having rejected you …
/r/seduction26/02/22 09:31 AM
1

Everything is ineffective until it’s effective. You are building a skill and living a life of going for what you want, there Is so much power in that and it only seems useless if you have that mentality of wanting a magic pill that solves everything in one second.
/r/seduction26/02/22 09:28 AM
5

Same as with guys, don’t be afraid to get judged or to fail or for them to not like you anymore, humor is about being willing to offend people and being willing to get rejected it’s about walking that edge and pushing it a little bit. So work on your fear of rejection and accept not everyone is a match with everyone and make your priority in interactions to amuse yourself and not care too much about what others think of you. Imo that’s it
/r/seduction26/02/22 09:26 AM
3

Mention your company in every dm so if it gets posted and goes viral, at least you’ll profit off the free advertisement
/r/seduction26/02/22 09:22 AM
1

Everything you said, is literally in your own head. Nobody you are with is judging you like that. All these judgements is literally you judging yourself. You put pressure on yourself, you feel judged because you are judging yourself, you compare yourself to others. When you stop judging yourself so much and accept yourself you can just sit down have a fun conversation and enjoy yourself and someone else
/r/seduction25/02/22 09:13 PM
1

You could text her again acting like nothing happened or addressing it but makelij clear you are not mad or emotional about it, rebuild a fun convo and make a date again. That being said, this will come back to bite you in the ass. This girl is not very much into you and that won’t change.
/r/seduction25/02/22 09:07 PM
14

Ok, I award you the loser of the week award 🥇you figured it all out, it’s all useless, just accept that you suck and die unhappy, okthanksbye
/r/seduction25/02/22 06:37 PM
1

Its a very valuable learning moment every time, don’t let it go to waste. You quadruple texted and told her you loved her after one date? Ok dwell on it, analyze it learn from it and grow from it, that way your mistakes will help you become an upgraded version every time. Without mistakes like this, you won’t get better.
/r/seduction25/02/22 06:34 PM
1

I feel you, It did change and it’s still changing for me and it’s not as much an issue as it used to be , but I still have the same issue. ✌🏻
/r/seduction25/02/22 10:57 AM
1

I feel you. But at the same time I can have sex with a beautiful girl and not feel much and I can have amazing sex with an objectively lesser looking girl that I have feelings for. I think the more that gets reinforced the less I actually care about just wanting to have sex with a hot chick. Hope you are proud of my paragraphs by the way.
/r/seduction25/02/22 10:39 AM
1

Haha fair enough, I’ll work on it.
/r/seduction25/02/22 10:02 AM
0

To be fair “Ok cool” is an idiotic response to someone breaking up with you, it’s either super immature in hiding your feelings or you are a psychopath, so in that case I totally get their reaction to it.
/r/seduction25/02/22 08:46 AM
1

Don't think you are special dude, this is your issue, behind millions of other laptops there are guys having the same insecure feelings about being too short, about beeing bald and they all have fair worries. I'm not saying it's all between your ears, but I am saying you let it limit you way too much, don't let it be an excuse to not succeed. I have a normal sized penis and I have also been insecure about it's size, before I knew there was nothing wrong with it, we all have these things. For eve…
/r/seduction24/02/22 10:27 AM
1

Do you have issues with rejection? I used to feel exactly how you describe, first I thought It was just a burden that I just have to accept. As in with great power comes great responsibility and there is a lot truth in there and the general attitude, of just taking all responsibility for the interaction and being the leader and providing an experience, is still a good thing. That being said I know the feeling of it just being too much or basically out of balance far too well. It turns into a fee…
/r/seduction24/02/22 10:13 AM
0

People are fucked up with all the anxieties, insecurities and issues we have. I think if you manage to strip them all away and “just be yourself” you’d be very successful with women. I wonder if this is something from the later generations and if x years ago people had less issues.
/r/seduction23/02/22 02:44 PM
2

Imagine people trying to get better at what they want and actually putting an effort in it, omg so desperate. Go back to your cocoon of shame sticking to your lane having no power over your life and trying to shame others into staying stagnant like you so you don’t feel bad about yourself when others grow and are happy or successful
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:55 AM
2

If it’s a playful maybe than it could be all good. As in she is used to make guys work for it and she is into you. Playing hard to get or playing games. I usually just keep going and propose something concrete, if they say maybe again or whatever I’ll be straight up. Look I’m interested, I liked that you blabla but I don’t chase or play games. If you are not interested that’s perfectly fine, but let me know. I can’t deal with that bullshit of not knowing if she is interested or just enjoying the…
/r/seduction22/02/22 03:59 PM
21

Lol you both sound like douches
/r/seduction22/02/22 03:54 PM
2

I get your dilemma, tbh I lied about it the first time. On one hand I think it won’t help much to bring it up. On the other hand I feel you should stay true to yourself and since you are obviously not feeling great about hiding it I’d say own it and put it out there. If I could do it over I guess I’d go with not bringing it up myself but also not avoiding it or lying about it. About your low value question, it’s just not the norm, not that there’s anything wrong with it or with you, but it just …
/r/seduction22/02/22 01:20 PM
1

Dont do this, not wanting to talk about it indicates major issues. If a woman would say those things to me I’d assume she is out of tou ch with her sexuality and has communication and emotional issues
/r/seduction22/02/22 01:14 PM
5

No it doesn’t it’s a fucking standard text that has been used Millions of times, it’s a plain and simple rejection, not even sure if it’s friendzone
/r/seduction22/02/22 09:04 AM
2

As long as you are not lying and manipulating women I’d say go for it, I think it’s an important part of the evolution of a man to experience some sort of abundance of females.
/r/seduction21/02/22 05:10 PM
2

Find out what’s going on, I doubt it’s your body. Attraction dying is almost certainly because of behavior. Are you to clingy? Very needy? You seem to think you accept the rejection, but at the same time you don’t know what the rejection was about and you don’t even let it come to a rejection. So many things that could be going on here, find out what it is.
/r/seduction21/02/22 04:53 PM
1

I think the higher quality you get the more women throw themselves at you. That being said and I think it’s the same for women. If you want something or someone you will have to go for it and get it. The chance of that exact person you like approaching you are slim to none. So in the end it’s fun to have women throw themselves at you, but the ones you want probably won’t so you still have to go get them.
/r/seduction21/02/22 04:50 PM
12

Its fun for a little while, to compensate a bit for the harder times when you were in your 20’s and couldn’t get those girls, but after a while I totally agree with you and you (should) start to screen girls for the characteristics and personalities you like and those at least for me are usually at least late 20’s
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:37 AM
3

Why are you friends with women that turned your avances down? What kind of weird friendship is that?
/r/seduction20/02/22 09:16 AM
1

No one cares but you
/r/seduction19/02/22 04:14 PM
5

On one hand it’s natural and we all probably do it in some shape or form, but it is very cringey all these topics of guys that want to flatter their ego after they kissed one girl and they feel like now it’s their position to teach the rest of the world that because they wore blue shoes with black pants and they were successful one time , now everyone can use their magic formula to become as successful as they are. (Until two days later when the girl ghosts them and they find out there is a litt…
/r/seduction19/02/22 09:01 AM
1

Ok, thanks for your contribution, I award you with the victim award of the week 🏆, congrats
/r/seduction16/02/22 04:04 PM
1

No need to prove, just trying to help you look at different angles
/r/seduction14/02/22 09:49 PM
1

Overthinking
/r/seduction14/02/22 06:16 PM
3

How much do you like her dude, if you want to marry her, talk with her and deal with it, but otherwise I'd get the fuck out of there, you deserve someone that wants to fuck your brains out every day too and it's going to be a long ungrateful road to have her fix all her emotional damage that is even if she is actually up for it.
/r/seduction14/02/22 06:13 PM
3

I don't really get what's going on, is this correct?: You asked her to come over, she didn't answer you directly ( but she did indirectly) And she just kept on talking about other things and you didn't react to those other things, because you were still waiting for an answer about her coming over? If I got it correct: her ignoring to come over is a very clear ( non confrontational) communication she is not feeling it (right now) and you ignoring her other texts makes you look butt hurt/ playing …
/r/seduction14/02/22 06:12 PM
1

You do seem to put an awful lot of emphasis on looks and status. Would you say you are a fun, interesting person to be around, someone that can listen to people and form deep emotional bonds?
/r/seduction14/02/22 06:06 PM
7

I have lately been thinking more in terms of what is my intent in a situation. If I have a clear intent and know what I want, I usually have enough to say, as opposed to if I don't have my intentions clear to myself, I will sometimes not. For example If I decide I want to get to know this woman and find out if she is potential girlfriend material. That is some clear intent. From that point I can think about the things that are important to me, Like what it is that is important in a relationship …
/r/seduction14/02/22 06:01 PM
10

Those male friends are usually either guys she subtly rejected and that stay swarming around with no self worth, hoping to get lucky. Or they are guys trying to get with her, but they don't have the balls to state their intent and thereby they also lost all attraction she initially might have had for them. The third option would be that they are really friends. All of these guys are not your competition.
/r/seduction14/02/22 05:51 PM
1

What is this nonsense, there should be some bar or something for random people to make posts. Dude you need to read the r/seduction not post in it, it's not your place.
/r/seduction14/02/22 05:46 PM
2

Imo all the real good stuff comes from being vulnerable and opening up and the keeping people at a distance when you are afraid to get hurt (again) will always make you feel unfulfilled. No matter how many hot chicks you bang. So def worth looking into. ✌🏻
/r/seduction13/02/22 08:42 AM
1

You can take the chance she didn’t really get to know you yet and can still get hooked. That being said the chance is quite small imo, I think we usually already get a pretty good indication of our interest level from just pictures. So if you just want sex one or a couple of times, sure got for it. But if you are looking for more I wouldn’t bother. Its a very clear, you are my 5th option, that’s why it feels bad and thirsty to take up the offer and you feel that you are being used. I totally get…
/r/seduction13/02/22 08:39 AM
2

this. Be honest with yourself, it takes effort to get anywhere. You did not put in the work. Period. Don’t expect the results if you didn’t do the work. You are going to be unhappy as fuck when you get plastic surgery and still get no girls. Dont be that guy that complains without ever trying. Try your hardest give everything and still don’t complain. Change your attitude dude, just straight up if I were a girl and I would have read your post that not taking responsibility, victim mindset would …
/r/seduction12/02/22 10:54 AM
2

Might be valuable for you to think about it
/r/seduction12/02/22 09:02 AM
2

Yeah I never saw the broken up part, I agree with you
/r/seduction10/02/22 04:30 PM
1

Didn’t see that, that’s a bit much indeed
/r/seduction10/02/22 09:15 AM
1

It usually works the other way around, you prove someone is guilty, with more than just an indication of someone being guilty. Every woman gets emotional and does shit, to me at least the important part is how she deals with it. Sure she can lash out, but if she is reflective and comes back around and deals with it, tries to work on it the next time etc I think thats fine and healthy
/r/seduction10/02/22 09:11 AM
2

Why do you proactively do that?
/r/seduction10/02/22 08:35 AM
1

This is a bit too fast of a conclusion with too little info dude, she can be perfectly fine and just blew up once, who knows what she had going on, maybe she called him the next day and apologized etc. There’s a big chance you are right, but to conclude it is a bit much
/r/seduction10/02/22 08:34 AM
1

Ah so you say 10 dates no sex, but you let her get the confirmation she can manipulate you to do what she wants, which is not the sex but make you break your rule and the whole challenge is done and gone. yeah way over my head, way too brilliant.
/r/seduction09/02/22 08:18 PM
1

Hm, I don’t see the fun in waiting 10 dates for sex. When you tease the fuck out of them on the first time you have sex and you make them beg for it, and never act like a thirsty simp after that, that basically handles the whole question about who has the power over the sex. You can play a game like that and frame it and it might work for a couple of days I guess, but imo it all comes down to if you give them good sex
/r/seduction09/02/22 07:53 PM
4

I don’t think it’s that rare at all, I think we often don’t make women feel safe enough to sexually be themselves and or don’t give them good enough sex For them to want it all the time.
/r/seduction09/02/22 07:47 PM
8

Ask yourself how important it is to you. My last situationship was with a girl that matched my sex drive and it was amazing and made me realize even though I am very much into character and emotional bonds, sex drive and the sex itself are super important to me and I could see myself breaking up a good thing over it.
/r/seduction09/02/22 08:53 AM
2

Same
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:53 PM
4

That's basically what he is already doing with these spiteful replies.
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:51 PM
1

#metoo
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:50 PM
1

I have adapted over the years and I became more in touch with my which i think is my feminine side. I am extremely analytical and rational. But it never helped me in my relationships with anyone. No one wants you to immediatly criticize his or her dumb ass idea when they are super excited about it. I did that coming from a positive place, I wanted to help them not walk into a dead end road, so I'd give honest critique, which was often seen as "being negative" slowely I started realizing that eve…
/r/seduction08/02/22 07:49 PM
1

I think it’s fine, just know that you are giving off boyfriend vibes with it, so imo don’t do it if you just want to get laid.
/r/seduction07/02/22 12:29 PM
1

I’d recommend Dirty talk mastery, Don of desire and sex god method
/r/seduction07/02/22 12:18 PM
2

Usually when I laugh or cringe at these kinds of things it just means I am dealing with some inhibition like shame that blocks me from doing it and is holding me back
/r/seduction07/02/22 12:14 PM
0

Imo it’s not a good thing to assume people are going to twist things, that mistrust is not something you should have in a healthy relationship with friends, so I personally would go in there to ask their side and give them the benefit of the doubt. If you confront people in a group you can count on people getting defensive and the chance of having an authentic conversation where you strengthen your friendship bonds are pretty close to zero, especially if these kinds of things happened which indi…
/r/seduction07/02/22 08:36 AM
22

Imo the best thing would be to confront these women 1 on 1 and tell them exactly how you feel. Ask them what their problem is with you and why they wouldn’t bring it up with you but with outsiders and how that doesn’t seem like friendship and give them the chance to explain and by their reaction you can gauge if they are really your friends or not.
/r/seduction06/02/22 08:31 PM
1

It means they are attracted to men that have boundaries. Random example, you date a girl, you have plans with your friends at saturday night, she tests your boundaries and says baby, why dont you cancel your friends and go to a movie with me? Person A cancels his appointment with his friends, possibly 2 weeks later she breaks up with him because he can't handle her, she feels like she can walk over him, basically she can manipulate him and he is no challenge. Person B Says no, i already have pla…
/r/seduction06/02/22 09:53 AM
3

I think its a matter of perspective, I often think women are giving guys the benefit of the doubt and letting little fuck ups pass all the time, until it’s just too much. Maybe when you fuck up and it kills the vibe you were not even aware of all the other previous moments where you messed up.
/r/seduction05/02/22 07:06 PM
1

tbf It's also relatively easy to stand out from the rest because most men are those needy idiots without standards
/r/seduction04/02/22 01:52 PM
1

I didn’t say anything about acting different or about worrying dude.
/r/seduction29/01/22 01:02 PM
1

Like every thing that can be perceived as “creepy” when there is no attraction but will make a woman giggle and blush when you are being perceived as attractive
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:21 PM
1

Well it’s true though, although attractive can mean different things and its true in the context of attractive not meaning handsome or ugly. If you are ugly but a girl is attracted to you for whatever reason, you can do and say things that a handsome guy that she is not attracted to won’t be able to say
/r/seduction29/01/22 08:49 AM
1

✊🏻
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:59 PM
-1

Similar situations, if I am triggered and have underlying aggression it still works but doesn’t go as well as when I am in an authentic mood and just being non threatening but just calling out what I see and making jokes about it. I figure congruence and the kind of person you are and how you come across matter a lot here.
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:32 PM
0

Yes so you are avoiding the things that cause you to have mental health issues. Avoiding something doesn't help it.
/r/seduction27/01/22 11:08 AM
0

Dude you are massively overthinking. You are already investing massive energy into trying to protect your ego even before you are out there on a dating app. Put some pics on there start dating, you will have to deal with rejections and failings and get better from them, avoiding them will just hold you back longer, as is not just being on the apps right now. Go and fail and grow.
/r/seduction27/01/22 11:01 AM
2

I have had this several times and each time it gave me a lot of value in terms of preselection. Women love testing you first about this and say shit like I can’t date someone that dated my friend blabla but if you kill that shit they will often want to win you over
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:56 AM
2

For me it’s usually 2-3 months of heaven and than things get complicated and emotionally heavy. Maybe I’m just not on that level, but I can’t see it really working in that dream scenario we all seem to have in our head. I think the balance will always tilt to one side, the sweet spot is where you really like each other and have some feelings but they are not strong yet, but in my experience it will always tip over and you will star favoring one girl and lose respect/ interest for the others, who…
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:49 AM
1

Perfectly fine, even very light flirting. Like someone sort of mentioned the problem is in your congruency. 2 people can say the exact same words but in one situation it can be a turn off date ender and in the other it can be an attraction building thing that makes her giggle. You thought this was a funny flirt ( so did I) now just own it and don’t even think about it anymore . If she doesn’t like it and wants to walk away over this she wasn’t that much into you anyway and she’d be doing you a f…
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:45 AM
15

I think I’d call him out on the spot, I really can’t deal with that shit, I have some issues with disrespectful behavior, so I’d probably just ask him with the girl still present if he thinks he will get with the girl by trying to make a stupid joke at my expense and I’ll ask the girl if it’s working and if she wants to have sex with him because of his cool move.
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:33 AM
1

I think this is a great post! I do disagree with no6 though. I think the courageous mentally strong thing to do is take the hurt from previous experiences and deal with it and still open up your heart and be vulnerable again.
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:28 AM
1

You are reinforcing your negative self image this way so I don’t think it’s a good method for the time being.
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:23 AM
1

So you have let’s say issues you need to work on, but instead of working on the issues you found a little shortcut that will give you a small short term victory. The way you wrote your post also insinuates you have accepted “the way you are” and therefore from that perspective only cheats/ shortcuts are possible. Don’t think like that, you can work on your anxiety and become a non shy guy and For example just put the effort in and take good pictures and I can pretty much guarantee you three thin…
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:21 AM
3

Getting friendzoned just means that she is not attracted to you, it’s not like this automatically means you can be good friends with each other that really like each other as friends. If you want to be someone’s friend I’d start with practicing how to listen to someone, like really listen and ask them how they feel about the things they tell you get in an emotional level and by the way waiting for your turn to tell your own experience or to give advice is not really listening
/r/seduction26/01/22 09:15 AM
3

I think this joke can only harm you and has little to no upside, especially over text
/r/seduction25/01/22 03:53 PM
1

Are these higher standards based on looks or on behavior/ character or a combination? I understand your dilemma on one hand it would be nice to get the experience in on the other hand you don’t want to do something you actually don’t want to do.
/r/seduction24/01/22 05:25 PM
6

Don’t envy the emotional numb people. Stay the way you are, if you don’t feel the need to sleep with a lot of women, don’t try to adapt someone else’s issue as your goal
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:36 PM
2

I think if you secretly or openly want to fuck her its super bad, it shows you don’t respect yourself and you let yourself be kept around as a pet, plotting and hoping in the shadows, just torturing yourself for that chance…
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:34 PM
1

So you’ll find out that guys that are bad with women don’t take responsibility in general and will blame women and start to hate them and they’ll blame other people for all other things that are wrong in their life and they’ll vote democrat/ left wing and try to virtue signal a lot because this is their niche where they think they can get some social status by being a good sheep for the woke community and in turn there will be women that will sleep with them, only to find out they’ll get friendz…
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:25 PM
2

This is not my strongest point either, but I’ll chip in anyway. Lately I’ll talk about relationships, dates, in general and previous, social dynamics etc there is always that underlying sexual tension with these topics and you can easily stear it there too for example things like why did you break up will always come along and you can say saomethinf like the sex was amazing but In other areas blabla or I felt we were sexually not compatible I like to be dominant blabla, I think most men behave i…
/r/seduction24/01/22 04:18 PM
1

Figure out if you are not just having anxiety about the whole thing, if you really don’t desire her don’t feel obliged to have sex just tell her you don’t think it’s a good idea and you rather stay friends, but again make sure it’s not just anxiety for what other people might think or whatever other reason
/r/seduction24/01/22 08:59 AM
2

Telling me to take you out in the first couple of messages is a quick way for me to lose interest
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:29 PM
1

I think your confidence will be build by putting yourself in these situations of pressure conflict and rejection and by experiencing that it hurts but you are still alive and alright afterwards, you can slowely build that confidence that you'll be fine going in to these situations. I say slowely because I also think stretching your comfortzone to an extreme will make you run back in there and curl up like a little ball so take small steps as small as you want and experience the fears be in the m…
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:24 PM
1

In the past I have been on a lot of dates where I didn't make moves and pussied out. So the change for me to explicitly call it a date, was a good one for me. I think we usually stay away from things like this because we try to avoid rejection, in this case we are scared that when we make our intentions clear she will turn us down, but its actually way better for your own time, growth and also for your attraction in her eyes to actually be very clear about your intentions. So in my opinion yes d…
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:17 PM
1

You want to say it out loud because you are needy and want something from her and by saying it you feel like you’ll get something back. You should be yourself but if yourself is a needy insecure dude at this moment you won’t get a certain girl being yourself so you work on your neediness until your self is more confident and you do get the girl . Now in the meantime you could fake it till you make it and therefore yes not be yourself around girls but be the person you want to be. That is your co…
/r/seduction22/01/22 09:37 AM
1

Yes, a lot, it has been a dilemma for me. On one hand I feel i am growing so much from the experience in my social skills in my sexual skills in my self confidence and many more benefits I really feel I need to date a lot and get the practise in and always keep Improving and growing. I literally have a huge file on my game where I analyze things and have a dynamic section of the things I work on on my dates. On the other hand I have realized how much power I have as a man in terms of giving wome…
/r/seduction20/01/22 09:51 AM
0

I generally agree, they will call you out on your bullshit and your flaws, but once you connect with them they are loyal and traditional. I used to see them as cold, but now I love them for their lack of games and their straightforwardness, basically they are honest and know what they want and value. The gold digger stereotype is also def real and another type of Eastern European woman, but the great thing about them is they are unapologetic about it and just tell you straight up upfront. In gen…
/r/seduction19/01/22 09:47 AM
2

I think ghosting is done out of fear for the confrontation and in general it’s scarier for a woman because there’s always that threat of violence from a dude. Anyway it doesn’t matter ✌🏻
/r/seduction18/01/22 04:24 PM
1

I agree, might have misinterpreted. I thought I was responding to someone saying that men would do the same in the same situation and I don’t think we ghost women as much.
/r/seduction18/01/22 04:12 PM
3

The crash here was not being congruent with what you said and apologizing for it.
/r/seduction18/01/22 02:36 PM
1

Bad comparison imo, I date multiple women, but I won't ghost them and If I had a great time on a date, I'm always down to see her again.
/r/seduction18/01/22 02:18 PM
1

Yeah you didn’t read what I said
/r/seduction18/01/22 01:13 PM
1

Its not always and often people just can’t see the bigger picture yet. There are a lot of red flags and “beginners” think just because they get with a girl and are happy from their scarcity point of view the advice didn’t make sense. But years later when the woman leaves you or you realize in what kind of toxic relationship you are or that there are much healthier relationships to be had you might in hindsight see there was truth to it. Just to be clear I also see bullshit run and red flag advic…
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:30 AM
2

I like the first paragraph and I’d like to add that confidence is knowing that you will be fine, not that you’ll get results. So something is scary, you still choose to do it and even if you don’t get the desired result you can still realize that you didn’t die, that nothing seriously harmful happened etc and that in itself is the positive feedback already that will build your confidence because the next time that fear of something really bad happening is already less and you know you will be fi…
/r/seduction17/01/22 09:31 AM
-1

Dude, if it’s legal, make up your own mind. Don’t ask for random people to tell you what you should think about it.
/r/seduction17/01/22 09:23 AM
8

If you are looking for ways to avoid rejection and be non threatening like this. You might have some win moments in the short term, but in the long term you’ll find out it will just hinder you. You’ll get numbers but the girls won’t reply or they will play games with you and it won’t work out. Don’t avoid rejection at all costs don’t be non threatening. Its better to have a no thanks or a no I have a boyfriend than to have a month of texting and flaking wasting your time. Its also much more attr…
/r/seduction17/01/22 09:20 AM
1

What is it you want from/ with her ?
/r/seduction17/01/22 09:15 AM
1

Tbh it doesn’t necessarily sound like hard rejection and maybe if you’d show some non neediness and high value and take your time you’d get her to meet up with you. That being said I really believe you can’t turn a no girl into a yes girl so imo it would be wasted time, best thing you sleep with her and always feel uncomfortable walking on your toes to keep her until you lose her. Not worth it since there are many girls that would like to meet up with you eagerly
/r/seduction16/01/22 08:59 AM
0

By being relaxed and enjoying/ entertaining yourself, both build upon confidence.
/r/seduction14/01/22 04:55 PM
2

I think it totally depends on what you are crying over. If I watch a touching movie or story I’ll cry and if she doesn’t like me being me she can leave. But I can imagine some dude crying about being a victim or crying that he can’t take something anymore and I can def see that dropping respect and attraction
/r/seduction12/01/22 05:24 PM
1

You are not being friendly, whatever that means to you. You are being very platonic, boring, generic, indirect, afraid to show interest, afraid to break rapport and needy. Rereading models would be a good start.
/r/seduction11/01/22 01:49 PM
5

Theoretically if you are always straight shooting and saying what you want and feel you can’t be manipulated. I’ll give an example. If you meet a woman and you want to have sex with her, but you don’t literally say this, instead you say let’s get to know each other. You are in this instance manipulating, so it is only normal for her to go out with you flake on dates, send mixed signals use you for attention whatever manipulative things you hate. You are both playing games. If you were to tell he…
/r/seduction11/01/22 10:52 AM
-1

Dont look for magic pills, models is great, but it’s part of a journey, learn to enjoy the journey and make little progress all the time. Don’t focus on the end goal but focus on improving and implementing
/r/seduction10/01/22 06:50 PM
3

Dude this topic has been made 100's of times. It's so fucking standard, Put in some effort and do a search.
/r/seduction09/01/22 11:46 AM
1

With these kind of expenses I always feel like if you get the results you want, in hindsight the money is nothing and totally worth it. But if you don’t it’s a crazy waste. How do you estimate yourself I mean there is obviously a ton of work let’s say years of active work to do are you willing to do it, are you willing and able to get out of your comfort zone and actually change things ? If your answer is yes and you just want to pay for a faster route I’d say go for it if she is legit. If the a…
/r/seduction07/01/22 08:40 AM
1

You probably do have a lot of shame related to your sexuality, Freud has a lot of stuff on it, its worth checking out imo. I had some crazy notions in my head and fixing them has felt so liberating. I used to be ashamed of my sexuality and even more of expressing it, therefore I automatically also felt like women would be offended and creeped out if I would express my sexuality, turns out its the exact fucking opposite. If you truly have no shame around it you wouldnt have a problem expressing i…
/r/seduction06/01/22 07:48 PM
0

lol this woke consent thing is turning people into the biggest beta's ever. You'll end up asking her for consent if you are allowed to watch through the keyhole how your wife gets banged by a normal dude.
/r/seduction06/01/22 07:42 PM
1

Don't keep it in mind go read about it and implement it immediatly.
/r/seduction06/01/22 05:00 PM
2

Be honest and upfront, don't be a manipulative bitch that lies to have sex with women.
/r/seduction06/01/22 04:36 PM
5

So is he.
/r/seduction06/01/22 04:33 PM
1

I think they were amazing, they changed my life and got me into personal development. I started with Mystery and it never felt good deep inside I felt like a fucking clown, a dancing monkey learning routines so I instantly connected with the rsd way of working on yourself.
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:41 PM
3

You don't seem to build attraction. Do you make the interaction man to woman? Or just generic platonic nonsense what do you do for work blabla. Do you escalate kino? Do you have fucking powerful eye contact that almost makes her uncomofrtable? Do you clearly state your intent? Do you easily talk about sexual things.? Do you value yourself and tell stuff about yourself instead of just asking her questions? Do you worry about if she is enjoying the interaction instead of you enjoying the interacti…
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:38 PM
3

Be yourself she knows you are younger, so just act the same as with other girls. If you try to act mature you will just fuck up and if she wanted to be with an older more mature guy she would have asked one and not you.
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:35 PM
1

Nice.
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:34 PM
1

It means you felt rejected while you were not and you showed her that you get emotional from rejection which is a big turn off. Resistance like not reciprocating a kiss is not a bad thing, it's a fun thing, a game, if she doesn't like you she will tell you and go home, so she is interested in you and her not reciprocating should mean "not yet" to you and will usually make her attraction go up because you have the balls to go for it. It's part of flirting to me. Again if she is not interested she…
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:32 PM
14

Lol only in the Us is this a problem, a 52 year old dating a 21 year old is fine, but a 19 year old dating a 16 year old is not. Getting killed in a war as a soldier at 18 is ok, but drinking alcohol is not. Do not fucking worry about this shit dude. you are 2-3 years apart and you didn't know. You did nothing wrong end of story. ps: https://img.ifunny.co/images/34a000c9d665712fe12f4af62234ec91b0c063b5da105a47b65cd292d5e33219\_1.webp
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:18 PM
6

Yes, never wait until you are ready for things like this, that day will never come. There will always be something that you want to work on before you are perfect enough, the day you wake up and think yes I am ready now won't ever come. And a good quality woman will support you in jour journey of improvement. So the day is today not tomorrow.
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:15 PM
-1

Bring value to the table don't take value. Questions generally don't bring value.
/r/seduction06/01/22 03:11 PM
1

The good advice of moving on that people are giving you, probably sounds like people don't understand your situation to you now. You probably really want this girl and don't care about other girls. But what you need to understand is that this is exactly the problem that you have, that you ned to get rid off.
/r/seduction05/01/22 12:01 PM
2

Go spend a lot of time to figure out what You want from life and who You want to be, don’t ask others.
/r/seduction04/01/22 03:42 PM
3

True! The fucked up situation for these women that they put themselves in though is that only the weak men will accept their ridiculous behavior and every healthy strong dude will stay clear of them, that’s why they will always be frustrated. Their values and their instinct are not aligned.
/r/seduction04/01/22 03:38 PM
3

Get away from her, withdraw , think about it if she is really into you she’ll come back to you and drop the manipulation even though you likely already fucked up. She is manipulating you and you already showed her that you will let her. You want to have sex but you probably tell her that it’s ok not to have sex. But are you being honest? No you are frustrated yet you still let yourself get manipulated. If she wants you like you want her why would she play games think on that.be honest with yours…
/r/seduction04/01/22 10:18 AM
1

I used to think that you don't have to sexualize at all, I had good success escalating and getting sex without ever mentioning anything sexual. I am changing my perception though and I am starting to think that sexualizing verbally can build much stronger attraction and I am also very much into the authenticity of saying sexual things when you feel like it, want it or think about it.
/r/seduction01/01/22 08:24 PM
1

I think this is a huge misconception and ugly should be replaced by attractive. If she is not attracted it's creepy and no matter how "ugly" you are, if she is attracted it will be flirty.
/r/seduction01/01/22 02:05 PM
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This has been discussed ad nauseum. Nothing wrong with being nice, but most people in your situation are not nice from a perspective of giving but from a perspective of wanting to receive. The attraction comes from leading, having personality, boundaries, preferences, acting, willingness to walk etc. If you are nice out of neediness to keep people around or to make people like you that is not attractive and if you lack in other areas that are attractive that’s not a m’n attractive total of chara…
/r/seduction01/01/22 10:13 AM
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Im in the same position kind of a lot of the time and I am trying to focus on making sure the women aren’t my priority and my goals and passions are. Everytime I have a good day or period in terms of being occupied with my passions,friends and family and or work I don’t have this problem and I don’t have to fake anything. I won’t read texts for many hours, I’m hard to get a date with etc. I feel like these things should be our main focus and as long as we put dating over everything else nothing …
/r/seduction29/12/21 10:20 AM
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I see that you trained jiu jitsu and Muay Thai so you will probably understand the comparison of you saying you are not trying to date during this process of losing weight when I compare it too someone walking in for a trial and afterwards saying yeah I love it but I am going to get in shape first and come back. You better start now dude, because you will start all over at the beginning again when you lost weight and nothing magically will change you’ll still run into the same “beginner” issues …
/r/seduction28/12/21 09:04 AM
1

I hope so
/r/seduction28/12/21 08:45 AM
1

I hope you are talking about proposing a date
/r/seduction27/12/21 09:19 AM
1

💯
/r/seduction27/12/21 09:18 AM
1

You need to analyze your behavior, are you too needy? Ghosting means you b fucked up and they are too immature to deal with it and tell you so you should find out where you fuck up.
/r/seduction27/12/21 09:11 AM
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That’s great and all but clearly it’s not working, so you are not applying it well or it’s not working for you. You seem to want to skip over the part that is the solution, like yeah I use the guide it’s all good, no it’s not good because you are not getting dates from your matches. It can be so many things, if you want to find out what it is you take the effort to post your conversations so we can analyze it for you
/r/seduction27/12/21 08:59 AM
2

I think most women that work on themselves and generally when they get a bit older, know and can exactly tell you. When a woman knows what she wants she also knows what she doesn’t want.
/r/seduction27/12/21 08:52 AM
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Who cares dude, find out what is a good amount for you don’t look at what others are doing for your happiness or life enjoyment, but look at yourself. I have these thoughts every now and than too where I start counting and sort of insecurely look at it from the outside how it comes across and if I need more for my year quotum and I just want to slap myself after that when I realize how stupid of a metric it is.
/r/seduction27/12/21 08:50 AM
1

Yeah fix that shit dude get that self sabotage out of your head, you got her in to you the way you are, so you are good enough.
/r/seduction26/12/21 06:54 PM
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I have been in a similar situation in the sense that I got insecure in the same way because I dated a successful woman and you want to fix that insecurity asap, because it will shine though no matter how well you try to hide it. I’d sit down and think about all the positive attributes and characteristics you have that she is lucky to have around.
/r/seduction26/12/21 06:51 PM
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Well for Me the friendship comes after a long time when the person that got rejected gets over you, until that point it’s too painful to be in contact with the one that rejected you.and at that point if you ended it well there can be friendship imo
/r/seduction26/12/21 09:47 AM
1

You are right, you just seem a whiney victim here, but in real life you are a confident positive guy.
/r/seduction25/12/21 03:00 PM
1

He probably whines to them that life is not fair.
/r/seduction25/12/21 02:31 PM
1

God, I prefer the positive Original post over the constant whining of people embracing victimhood in their daily posts on this subreddit. It's not fair, I deserve better, Its all not real, It doesn't work, I don't want to work. If you read your own posts can you really blame women for not wanting to be with you? Is there anything about your attitude that you think is attractive?
/r/seduction25/12/21 02:31 PM
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Look at it like this, if she was super attracted and having so much fun and wanted to be with you, you think she’d say she was tired and end the date? Maybe she has friendzoned you, maybe she’s taking advantage, maybe she hasn’t made up her mind completely and isn’t in sync with her attraction levels for you, who knows why she keeps hitting you up. That two day later response says a lot too. When you were with her did she keep her phone away all of the time? Because again if Leonardo di Caprio w…
/r/seduction25/12/21 02:20 PM
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You went for it dude, that deserves respect and you can't control the outcome, all you can do is get out of your comfortzone and go for what you want and you did exactly that. Now accept the outcome and move on and you'll learn that even though it hurts you will be fine and that will grow your confidence and make sure you keep going for what you want. I def didn't have the balls to ask for numbers at 15.
/r/seduction25/12/21 02:09 PM
1

Being honest and communicating your feelings and not leading them on, all from the start.
/r/seduction25/12/21 02:03 PM
1

ok
/r/seduction25/12/21 02:00 PM
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Sounds like you were yourself and spoke about what you enjoy and you guys just didn't click. Sounds perfect to me, ideally i'd imagine youd want to be with someone that likes you especially when you are passionate about the things you are alking about. You only buggered up royally if your metric was,"I am trying to get laid and I don't care about if we like each other". ps. Don't do dates like that, lunch, movies. Keep it light, see if you connect, before you invest so much.
/r/seduction25/12/21 01:57 PM
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In the future with women, escalate and show clear intent. Story sounds like you didn't do that and she gradually lost interest. You didn't ruin it by asking if you could come over , it was probably already ruined and you making a move way too late just brought the reality up that she wasnt interested anymore.
/r/seduction25/12/21 01:52 PM
2

3d date time to start escalating? how about you start escalating on the first date, wtf dude.
/r/seduction25/12/21 01:50 PM
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Think about it for a second, someone is trying to use you, because I can not imagine any scenario where it would be normal to ask someone you just met for money and as a result of this, you are the one being insecure about the situation. That is just wrong dude, fix yourself. Get some boundaries, you clearly don't want to give it so dont be apologetic about how you feel.
/r/seduction25/12/21 01:48 PM
1

People keep bringing it up, it's a factor, not a big one but nonetheless it still is one.
/r/seduction25/12/21 01:44 PM
1

Stay at home, pick something terrible, the worst thing that you can do is actually pick a good movie. When either you or her are actually enjoying the movie that will kill all fooling around. You should start escalating like 5 mins into the movie when you are both comfortable, Nothing worse with that process being shut down by an actual good movie, where she is non receptive because she is into the movie or when you get complacent with not escalating and have a comfort zone safe alternative of j…
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:11 AM
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Haha you are right and that’s how I meant it too. I think I should have used a normal guy instead of an average guy when I was talking about what women want.
/r/seduction23/12/21 10:20 AM
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Nothing will “happen” without lots of effort and confidence is also something that takes a lot of effort to build. Again you are not a paying customer that is entitled to something here, you need to use your own Brain to filter through everything that is being said here and use whatever you feel could help you on your own yourney that you and no one else is responsible For and you and no one else has to put effort in.
/r/seduction23/12/21 09:28 AM
1

Drop your sense of entitlement dude, you are not a paying customer in a store
/r/seduction23/12/21 09:22 AM
1

I accept your apology
/r/seduction23/12/21 09:20 AM
1

You want me to go on dates with women for you too? I mean come on man, we are talking about life changing things here, these things require crazy amounts of effort, thinking, Time and pain and it seems you are just browsing around for a magic pill that will fix everything in a second. That’s not going to work out. Go read some books, go work on yourself
/r/seduction23/12/21 09:15 AM
1

The problem is probably that you think you are boring and not enough the way you are and therefore you think you need to play a character that is not boring, instead of just accepting yourself.
/r/seduction23/12/21 09:07 AM
1

Well written dude ✊🏻
/r/seduction23/12/21 09:01 AM
14

Needy, insecure, emotionally immature, non reflective, incapable of taking responsibility, a victim, complaining, looking for a mommy, aimless, goalless. Incapable of giving or receiving love and it goes on
/r/seduction22/12/21 09:45 PM
1

What is there better to do than always work on yourself and improve and grow? Stagnation is death, we are slowely dying.
/r/seduction22/12/21 09:24 PM
6

Don’t let that “would that have made Me happy” be an excuse not to try to reach your full potential. Dealing with your issues and even getting small victories like your first date, your first close etc will 100% at least make you happier.and if you want to Talk power, there is not Much more empowering than getting confident and feedback that you can do things you thought you couldn’t or that you couldn’t achieve previously
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:17 PM
14

Women would kill for an average guy, all they want is for guys not to fuck up, they root for you to close them. Most guys are just totally fucked up.
/r/seduction22/12/21 12:03 PM
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Maybe your perception of being high value is off. Being a confident guy with life goals and a fun life is super high value, just being aligned with your values and purpose, goals is super high value
/r/seduction22/12/21 12:02 PM
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You are on to something, I think you should look at seduction not as trying to be something you are not or becoming a different person but as some fun techniques And/but mostly it’s about unlearning bad behaviors and working on yourself uncovering your true self taking away layers of neediness, trauma, anxiety so don’t give up on it just view it from a different perspective
/r/seduction22/12/21 12:00 PM
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I think you should aim to be fine without a woman, build a life that even without women is fun and anjoyable and fufilling. That doesn't mean that a life with women wouldn't make it better, but it means the baseline you fall back to without women is also great. I just noticed today how having females validate me elevates my mood so much and I was wondering about if it is a bad thing. But I think I concluded as long as I don't need it to feel good about myself and it only elevates me even more it…
/r/seduction22/12/21 11:20 AM
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I have probably posted similar questions before, nowadays I feel its such an energy waste to occupy myself with. It's 2 coffees, I'll automatically pay for it, I do the same with my friends and I'll continue to do so and every in my eyes normal healthy women will on consecutive dates want to start paying for other things too. So it will even itself out like 90% of the time. Don't make a hill to die on over nothing. That whole initial thing of not paying worked very well in changing the mindset f…
/r/seduction22/12/21 11:00 AM
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If I had to worry about that, she wouldn't be my girlfriend. If I am in a relationship there is trust. So I'd just watch the show and see her try to get rid of him politely, or just let them interact whatever. I might ridicule the situation and tell him to go for it ask her number or something like that or I go elsewhere to talk to other people. The women I date, will not make me feel bad by flirting back but will politely either just make small talk and let the guy know shes in a relationship a…
/r/seduction22/12/21 10:55 AM
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Don't view yourself as a creep, that insecurity will 100% shine through. I think usually creepynes is when there is incongruency between your thoughts and wants and the way you act. So if you are thinking about how do I get this girl home to fuck her and stare at her like she is a pornstar but the words out of your mouth are, omg I love art that is so cool that you make drawings. That would be creepy. While just saying you want to drag her home and fuck her would be congruent. So I'd suggest wor…
/r/seduction22/12/21 10:43 AM
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It's never too late for anything dude. I read some of your comments here, definitely stop watching porn, give it a try for at least a couple of months and see what it does for you. Are you able to have normal relations with guys/ friends? As in can you just shoot the shit with some friends? If not work on that, not being in your head too much just accepting yourelf not worrying about how you come across etc. When you feel comofrtable vibing with guys, do the same with girls, just platonicly and …
/r/seduction22/12/21 10:38 AM
1

Apparently I don’t, but luckily you are here
/r/seduction21/12/21 08:35 AM
2

There is a difference in explaining a negative experience: “I feel bad about this and that” and whining like op without responsibility. If everything is someone else’s fault or the universes fault you don’t want to tackle it, because you can’t. You just want to be a victim and complain ( whine)
/r/seduction20/12/21 07:37 AM
2

In my limited experience with them, they seem distant cold and rational until they fall for you, than they do a 180 and become super caring, sweet and loyal.
/r/seduction19/12/21 04:53 PM
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Because he is special
/r/seduction19/12/21 04:46 PM
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He should read back his own post and see the passive aggressiveness, the lack of ownership, the complaining the hating on others. Def bad vibes. He needs to start somewhere of course but the feedback of how he comes across Should/ could be very valuable to him If he ever decides to take action and take responsibility instead of just whining.
/r/seduction19/12/21 04:42 PM
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Haha true I remember being cockblocked by a kitten one time, on beforehand I thought it would be the best idea ever, but after the date I had to put him down
/r/seduction17/12/21 04:57 PM
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“I know right, please keep going, what else do you like about me” and after they are done and ask for compliments back I’ll say something like hmmmmm well I guess you are kind of funny.. sometimes.
/r/seduction17/12/21 08:38 AM
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Sounds good, I feel in those cases if I think things through really well and communicate that honestly and are accepting of the situation (Willing to let go and move on) I can feel good in a sense that I communicated what I feel and what I want and that’s all I can do, so I can accept whatever outcome there will be is out of my hands and have peace with it and also if you guys get together again to talk things out, you won’t be in a needy position which would be killing imo
/r/seduction15/12/21 07:40 PM
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How about telling her you really care about your relationship and for her to contact you in the future if she wants to work things out and leaving the ball in her court after that. I feel like that isn’t needy, but leaves the door open for her to contact you without losing face.
/r/seduction15/12/21 03:57 PM
2

Maybe you are, or maybe you don’t make deep connections in your relationships
/r/seduction14/12/21 11:27 AM
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No, the only exception for me would be if she herself was aware of her behavior and actively wanted to change it. Otherwise don’t try to change people, accept them for who they are or move on
/r/seduction11/12/21 12:36 AM
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When she stops talking I think it meant you are either not congruent with the lifestyle or you didn’t have enough value. That being said I feel girls that do accept it, basically don’t have a lot of self respect because they basically accept you have them competing for your attention and affection. Ofcourse when it’s just about sex it’s fine but at least in my experience that never works out long term anyway
/r/seduction10/12/21 11:19 AM
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/r/seduction10/12/21 08:51 AM
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Get in a life crisis and try to find my purpose and try to find out what I actually want from and in life
/r/seduction09/12/21 09:46 PM
0

You done?
/r/seduction09/12/21 05:14 PM
1

Don’t set yourself up for more hurt here.
/r/seduction09/12/21 11:31 AM
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I think lookswise probably the younger you are and personality wise the older you get so the golden period is when these periods overlap which will be different for everyone. So if you still look young and you have matured theres the golden spot. But at the same time if you make great progress mentally but your looks go down a lot, you could potentially still have much more success than you had before while you looked better.
/r/seduction09/12/21 10:21 AM
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That’s like my number one perk of getting older, caring less about what people think and living more for myself and my needs. A small forced social world like a school is also not helping, if you were to mess up you’d have to deal with it daily so naturally you are more careful to not act out and take chances, which are holding us back in return. I think in the end it comes down to living according to your own values and not living for other peoples perceived values and if you do that there is n…
/r/seduction09/12/21 10:18 AM
2

Stay genuine and kind but also don’t be needy and too available, focus on your own needs first.
/r/seduction08/12/21 01:57 PM
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Don’t be so hard on yourself man, be your own friend and be understanding and supporting to yourself. Get some small victories, drop your ego. You don’t have to be Don Juan in one day. Ask the time, make some friendly conversation, drop a compliment. Say hi. And be happy with and proud of yourself everytime you make a small step forward. Calling yourself a coward won’t help it will just put pressure and unrealistic high expectations on yourself and get you in a self fulfilling negative spiral. Y…
/r/seduction27/11/21 09:47 PM
0

haha love that last line.
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:54 PM
1

I think the body count would be the dumbest reason ever to leave the relationship. That being said, you are super young and inexperienced and I could be wrong but I would assume you have a long way to go in terms of finding out what you really want in a relationship, finding out who you are and what you want in life and what role a partner needs to play in that journey. I have been totally in love when I was younger and now that I look back at those relationships I am glad as hell they ended and…
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:52 PM
1

From the other side, I have xperienced different occasions where people from my at the time social groups, were trying to climb the ladder. If you are quite young ( teens, early to mid 20's) chances are quite big you will have to leave the circle and start over. For other people in the circle it will take a lot of empathy and connection with you to accept new behaviors from someone. If They don't respect you/ connected with you and or care for you that much, that will definitly bring up friction…
/r/RedPillBooks24/11/21 02:53 PM
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Tbh I’d take this as a no and make other plans. If a woman is into you she’ll be checking your messages a lot, it’s also quite rare nowadays for someone to not check their phone all the time and see all messages in general. Being left unread is usually a decent indicator of how much value you have for that person. Don’t go sit around and wait only for her to maybe check in last second if she has nothing better to do, it will fuck up the dynamic and deep down you’ll feel that you are letting your…
/r/seduction22/11/21 10:33 AM
2

I think it all starts with a shift in values and one of the values is to take responsibility for everything in your life. Its easy and appealing to be a victim and accept things, it’s hard and tough and very masculine to take responsibility for everything. And as cliche as it sounds, the more you are responsible for everything the less others or external factors have power over you. So if you don’t give your power away to others and other things and you will have all the power and you will feel …
/r/seduction19/11/21 10:54 AM
2

Don’t go explaining yourself like that you are accepting her frame as dominant and nothing will change. Own it, it’s an attractive quality that you approach. You go for what you want don’t be apologetic about it. She’s just testing you to see how you respond and to see if you are congruent with the added value you just got in her eyes. Literally everytime a woman found out I dated her friend it gave me extra value. Don’t apologize, back up who you are and show willingness to walk away, talk posi…
/r/seduction10/11/21 09:51 AM
1

Fix your own emotional problems and get in touch with your feelings, it will probably raise your emphatic capabilities
/r/seduction09/11/21 10:44 AM
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I always go for these walking dates, tbh I think it depends on what you want from women. If you are looking for a one night stand, fwb type thing I’d go for a more seductive location like the nightlife or cooking at home, but for getting to know someone I think walks in a nice area are perfect.
/r/seduction08/11/21 09:38 AM
3

Its boring if you are boring basically
/r/seduction08/11/21 09:37 AM
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To be honest, having values often comes from a position of luxury. When you are financially safe it’s easy to be kind and focus on positivity and mutual beneficial situations or let things go because of your morals, when you are, or think you are fighting for your survival those decisions tend to be a bit harder to make. Now I like to think that even in hard times I would be the same stand up guy, but who knows. So to get back to the topic I think the scarcity mindset most people have when it co…
/r/seduction06/11/21 06:47 PM
1

Dude, she asked you to be exclusive and you said no. Getting there or thinking about it, is still a hard clear no. It means you are not that much into her. So anyone with self respect would not go sit around and wait for the other person to maybe come around or change/ make up his or her mind. Therefore her dating other guys is a very normal thing to do, now her telling you about it is just her being hurt by you and trying to either hurt you back a little or get some emotion from you, which is a…
/r/seduction06/11/21 02:55 PM
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Don’t try to change people, accept them as they come or move on if you don’t like it. You are not going to change her and she is going to feel bad too.
/r/seduction06/11/21 09:32 AM
1

I think even the no girls gravitate towards the value. I'm not saying that I get them all the time or something like that and in general a no girl is a no girl. But I def think it is possible, whatever low % that is.
/r/seduction05/11/21 04:56 PM
2

Yes definitely, I spent a whole lot of time into getting good at "pushing the right buttons" kind of old school game style. If your analytical game is strong you can recognize what button to press at the right time. for example, when you need more comfort, when you need more value, when you need to back off. Ofcourse you can't get every single women, but I do think you can game almost every woman and with simultaneous proper escalation at the right moments, you can have sex with her aswell. They…
/r/seduction05/11/21 12:32 PM
3

By Mark Manson, won’t disappoint.
/r/RedPillBooks04/11/21 07:14 PM
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Models
/r/RedPillBooks04/11/21 09:57 AM
1

I believe this is not the solution, the solution is to be honest and upfront with the girls and tell them from the beginning what you are looking for, but most of us are still in that scarcity mindset where we are afraid they won’t be ok with it, so we sort of weasel through it by not lying but also not being totally honest and upfront
/r/seduction04/11/21 09:55 AM
1

Test and analyze and put in the work.
/r/seduction03/11/21 10:28 AM
0

So angry...
/r/seduction02/11/21 06:16 PM
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No need to be racist with the "you people" because I am 2% black an 0,5% Native American and today I identify as transgender Anyway, I was not responding to ending things over text. I was responding to Op blaming a girl for his own fuck ups instead of looking at what he did wrong.
/r/seduction02/11/21 06:12 PM
2

She likes him but isn’t in love with him so it’s not a rational clear cut robotical thing
/r/seduction02/11/21 12:58 PM
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Shes not difficult or irritating, she didn’t have strong feelings for you and you showed that you like her way more than she likes you and that is a very uncomfortable feeling weather you are a man or a woman. It makes you feel guilty about being nice to someone and you don’t want to give them false hope so basically the thing to do at that point is end things, she is basically looking out for your feelings.
/r/seduction02/11/21 09:25 AM
2

Weak
/r/seduction30/10/21 03:40 PM
1

Its a dynamic thing just like all human relationships, so from the outside it may look like a dream but in real life it’s a non stop Energy taking thing in managing emotions and relations. When you first have it it’s amazing, like one girl goes and you have sex with another one a couple hours later or you need to get a girl out of your house quick before the next one. But after a while it’s not that new thing anymore and sex is not a scarcity anymore so it’s also not something that makes you wal…
/r/seduction30/10/21 10:12 AM
1

If you think about it, it means you care a lot about how others perceive you. Which means it was a bad move. If you wouldn’t have thought about it because you didn’t care and just wanted to give her the sour cream, it wouldn’t have mattered. Its all about your own perception of yourself. If you don’t care, no one cares and if you care, they care too. Your attitude creates the context
/r/seduction28/10/21 08:04 AM
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I have had a couple of instances where I had enough after a lot of shit tests where I dealt with amazingly. The thing in my opinion is to still not get angry but very clearly put down your boundary, so for example I’d stop her and say look I don’t mind the jokes and teases that’s all in good fun. But don’t do x, that is not funny anymore and makes me feel like x. I like our time together and it feels good but this doesn’t and if you keep doing that I’m gone. In these instances what happened was …
/r/seduction28/10/21 07:55 AM
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🙏🏻
/r/seduction28/10/21 07:33 AM
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Personally I would expect to feel pretty bad in reality, no matter how transactionally/ rationally I would look at it like you describe it. Still if she would say something gold diggerish or not offer to pay anything or other little things that would indicate the "arrangement" I would probably feel pretty bad, not to mention her behavior during sex, I imagine you going out for dinner having a fun day and than her saying something like she has a headache or whatever and at that moment I would fee…
/r/seduction27/10/21 07:41 PM
2

Haha good to hear, we are behind you bro ✊🏻
/r/seduction27/10/21 04:58 PM
2

Being sexy can be so many other things, the way someone looks (facial expressions), posture, swagger, speech. I have seen super pretty girls that were not sexy to me and I have seen girls that were kind of ugly but I just couldn’t not look at them and feel hugely attracted and in general women are much less looks based as we are, so they probably have totally different things even that they think are sexy.
/r/seduction27/10/21 04:53 PM
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I like the perspectives
/r/seduction27/10/21 04:46 PM
1

What you could do is, say your date was at 3pm, you could say, hey about tomorrow I can’t make it till 3:30 is that ok? Or if you didn’t have a time yet, something like I can do 3 pm tomorrow does that work for you?
/r/seduction26/10/21 09:58 AM
3

Rejecting them before the possibility is there that they can potentially reject you?
/r/seduction25/10/21 03:00 PM
1

Reread your own post, you view yourself as a huge victim, you give all the power of your feelings to other people. You are an incapable poor victim that has nothing going for him and other people should change for you to feel better. If you view yourself like that, could you really blame anyone else for not being attracted? You are basically lying to women about who you are and blame them for not sticking around when they find out who you really are. Why should they? You feel entitled to certain…
/r/seduction25/10/21 10:36 AM
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Getting dragged into being in love with someone that isn’t and won’t be in love with you. Developing new hope, reawakening strong feelings, getting back to zero in terms of moving on with your life
/r/seduction22/10/21 07:33 PM
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Its tough bro, think about why it ended. What can happen is you have sex a couple of times get overinvested or fall in love again and get heartbroken again. Unless you went through major changes as a person in those 3 years, don’t expect her to now suddenly realize you are the one. So big chance all contact will just lead to hurt. I had something similar, it lasted 3 months and we went through the same shit again. She recently contacted me again for the 3d time and I just asked her to not contac…
/r/seduction22/10/21 09:56 AM
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I didn’t even watch it so no clue if real or fake but just like every dude with a fitness channel is probably doing steroids it would make sense if your livelihood depends on something to fake some videos even if you could potentially have real results. I like the guys material and I have no doubt he can get girls though
/r/seduction19/10/21 03:33 PM
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Mweh, I’m super inactive on social, but I guess this is one of those things where there’s a big discrepancy between what people think and what it actually does to them. I think in reality a well curated instagram that shows someone having fun being social and having access to quality social events will always give value. Their mind may say what a douche but I think it will still bring value and attract, in general ofcourse
/r/seduction19/10/21 08:46 AM
1

Great case
/r/seduction19/10/21 08:00 AM
1

If someone would say good choice when I turned them down I don’t see how asking why is dumb
/r/seduction18/10/21 01:54 PM
31

More like butt hurt 101
/r/seduction18/10/21 09:17 AM
2

💯💶
/r/seduction15/10/21 09:55 PM
1

I make sure to let women know I am discrete and trustworthy and that I don’t judge but encourage her sexuality, I do this indirectly though, for example by telling a woman I have home made Porn videos and when she asks to see them tell her I will never show them to anyone because I respect the girls’ privacy.
/r/seduction15/10/21 09:08 PM
2

If you don’t make eye contact it’s not a problem
/r/seduction15/10/21 09:23 AM
12

Fake a wild overhand and immediately shoot for a double leg.
/r/seduction15/10/21 08:09 AM
29

This attitude is probably your problem. If you don’t view it as your fault but you being a victim you are not incentivized to make changes to change the lack of results you have now. The best thing to do now is to take full on 100% responsibility and view it as 100% your fault even though that might not be fully true. Go through the process of talking to girls asking them out and try to close and every time every step where it ends or goes wrong analyze what happend from the perspective that it …
/r/seduction05/10/21 03:53 PM
1

Overanalyzing is bad if you don’t apply stuff in the real world at the same time, but just doing stupid shit without understanding the theory behind it is also not going to get you anywhere if you are unsuccessful with woman
/r/seduction02/10/21 05:48 PM
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I think it would be the equivalent of a girl showing her ass on her dating profile. Option one, you turn someone off, by making a stupid brag. Option two someone will decide to be with you because of your money. I don’t see any benefit from Enclosing your earnings. To come back to the ass, when a girl shows her ass, she basically says to me this is what I have to offer. This is how I value myself. So if I date her, it will be for the sex, she has already ruined her chance of a relationship with …
/r/seduction29/09/21 11:35 AM
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I don’t view what you describe as over sharing, don’t see the issue in making her cry about your dog and offending someone with jokes is something that happens when you are yourself not everyone will like you. At least from your examples I think you are doing perfectly fine and trying to put some label on yourself that you shouldn’t.
/r/seduction27/09/21 09:25 AM
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My first one night stands made me feel amazing. It got me a feeling of accomplishment, coming from very low self esteem those moments were huge milestones in my life that I cherished for years. Nowadays I’m not into it at all, I like sex with at least a bit of a connection, i like either having my nights to myself or being with people I care about, so the whole thing of having someone in your house that you want to leave is annoying me. I don’t like the emotional part of it, like rejecting the g…
/r/seduction27/09/21 09:21 AM
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I don’t chase anymore, I want fun positive interactions and relationships with people and I want to value myself. If someone wants to play games like that or isn’t enthousiastic to be with me that’s cool but I’ll point my arrows elsewhere. I’m having a much better time and less stress with 6’ es that are totally into me as compared to an 8 that is not. Fuck that feeling of not being enough for someone and if I still try to get with that person I feel like a total degenerate with no self respect,…
/r/seduction27/09/21 09:14 AM
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Its a difficult situation, if you stop dating around you risk overinvesting in her and thereby making her lose interest and fucking things up. If you keep dating around you might be emotionally unavailable and mess things up with her if she’s a healthy person that knows what she wants. It all depends on you as a person what you are like what are your tendencies what are your weak spots, are you a needy person? If you give it a go and become exclusive at least make sure you keep having your own l…
/r/seduction27/09/21 09:03 AM
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Thats not what he advised you, he said talk with her, communicate. Don’t be a child and do things out of spite.
/r/seduction27/09/21 08:59 AM
1

So you are telling us it’s a scam and in the next sentence asking how to get better results. Make up your mind
/r/seduction27/09/21 08:57 AM
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It will help with getting noticed and you will attract more girls, that being said it’s not going to magically change your behavior that makes you get friendzoned. Don’t expect too much from it, just keep on your path and take the extra bonuses that come with it.
/r/seduction25/09/21 08:59 AM
2

Isn’t it nice to have something that pushes you to better yourself in order to get what you want ?
/r/seduction24/09/21 06:09 PM
3

I love you, stranger
/r/seduction21/09/21 08:16 AM
3

Do you already hug your friends? That was a great step for me to get comfortable with touching. Reaching out to have girls give their hand to you and check their nail polish and comment on it was also a helpful step. Don’t listen to all the negative comments, you are already dealing great with them with humor but don’t let it get to you. 95% of these guys are horrible with women but now when someone has a different problem that they maybe don’t have its their chance to feel better and in a coupl…
/r/seduction21/09/21 08:11 AM
1

Dont stop texting immediately after you set a date, like the deal is sealed and or don’t keep radio silence for days before the date. Any of those things relevant to your case?
/r/seduction18/09/21 09:19 PM
2

Dont wait for the moment, create the moment. For example when you are standing and you are already comfortable with touching you can just stick out your hand for her to give her hand and than you pull her into you playfully.
/r/seduction18/09/21 09:11 PM
0

You sound like you are better off paying a prostitute, you can see what their body looks like on beforehand and they won’t waste your precious time, they are very efficient timewise.
/r/seduction18/09/21 09:03 PM
1

I sensed you felt attacked , by misinterperting that I was angry or hurt, but If i am wrong about that, I am wrong.
/r/seduction16/09/21 10:15 AM
2

What do you feel that I am projecting?
/r/seduction16/09/21 09:53 AM
8

Your second problem is that you feel attacked when no one is attacking you.
/r/seduction16/09/21 09:50 AM
3

You know and we know that you are not speaking from experience, but from what you “feel” like. Every attractive woman has an endless supply of dudes hitting her up that are more attractive than you more interesting than you and more fun than you. So good luck with that same generic shit of taking value from here and asking her about her interests, oh she will notice how interested you are and what intelligent questions you are asking and she will see what a great guy you are… just like the other…
/r/seduction16/09/21 09:39 AM
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Your problem is that it sounds cringe to you. Often when we have limiting beliefs things sound cringey, while in reality the things he suggested are fun and you just don’t see yourself doing it (yet).I think the cringe is some sort of ego protection creating a reason why you wouldn’t have to get out of your comfort zone. But the alternative here is boring ass how was your weekend nonsense which will only work when you get lucky.
/r/seduction16/09/21 09:33 AM
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Dick size, height, looks, social status, friends. We all have something that we are not happy about and have to deal with and for each of these things there are people with the same issues that live with it without issues. Like people said 5 inches is apparently average so it’s not like you are some weird freak anomaly or anything. There’s millions of guys having the same insecurity but about things you have no issues with.
/r/seduction14/09/21 05:04 PM
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Yeah it’s ok, I don’t mind you lashing out a bit I don’t take it personal. I hope you figure your shit out though, there really is like a sea of gold in terms of opportunities to grow from reading back all your replies on this whole topic, I hope you do that
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:48 PM
1

I don’t feel Particularly emotional, I’m brushing my teeth eating some veggies and getting ready for bed
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:43 PM
1

Ok if you say so, it did come across as quite angry and emotional especially with all the insults and cussing.
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:40 PM
1

Why so emotional? What is triggering you
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:37 PM
1

I love you too 😘
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:31 PM
1

Dude you are projecting a lot here, I suggest when you calm down, you reread everything you said to me and take that as feedback of how you deep down view yourself.
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:30 PM
1

Control your emotions
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:26 PM
1

You got some serious issues dude
/r/seduction13/09/21 08:25 PM
1

He could have said it in a nicer way, but he is spot on. Your essay says a lot of things about the issues you have and you got some really valuable feedback. Its up to you now if your ego can handle it and use it in a positive way to improve yourself and your life or if you want to focus on irrelevant shit like how the message was conveyed and get angry and thereby dismissing part of or all of the feedback. Its supposed to sting and feel bad and your ego is supposed to counter attack and make ex…
/r/seduction13/09/21 09:25 AM
1

Totally agree, I feel it’s a necessary part of every mans development to experience abundance so from There you can really decide what you want in a woman
/r/seduction12/09/21 03:23 PM
3

If you think by changing your looks and keeping the same personality your life will Change much, I think you are in for a depressing reality check
/r/seduction12/09/21 08:47 AM
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Learning to deal with rejection is one of the biggest things in life to grow for a lot of people, me included. Rejection is a blessing in disguise on many levels. I stopped reading your nonsense after you mentioned the rejections as a reason to not go for something you want. Not to mention I saw your second point was about it being cringey, basically you saying you should care more about others opinions than going for what you want. Dude… just go make some posts about the world not being fair an…
/r/seduction09/09/21 08:30 AM
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Its all about your reality, meaning that if you get all weird about a joke that didn’t hit and you go making topics about it and don’t respond anymore and after x days suddenly start saying weird things with the “fuck up” of the joke in mind. Things might go south. But if you didn’t care about the joke not hitting and her reaction of not responding to it and just carry on like nothing important happened she will fall into your reality and go along or test your reality which is also fine.
/r/seduction08/09/21 08:10 AM
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Its so true, most men behave like total morons all the time, from Bragging to trying to act tough or cool it’s a non stop eye roll and stream of turn offs for women and they give tons of passes because they want you to win
/r/seduction07/09/21 08:38 AM
5

Just edit your post to blabla I don’t understand what makes a badboy attractive to women so I did some stupid shit blabla
/r/seduction03/09/21 10:03 AM
1

No
/r/seduction02/09/21 02:53 PM
3

What is this crap? I don’t like people that are agreeable, they are fucking uninteresting and the same goes for being neutral and not offending anyone. Do this if you want to be the most boring npc without any Character. Do the opposite, be yourself be authentic, say whatever the fuck you think and feel without caring what people will think of you and no matter how counter productive that sounds, you will have to accept that some people will dislike you and others will love you for it. But the b…
/r/seduction02/09/21 02:42 PM
3

Well if they were a good fit and liked each other and connected they wouldn’t be in this fwb situation, so this is about seduction so yes it’s a game. Would it be a wise choice to try to hold on to someone that’s not really into you that’s another discussion but that’s not what he is asking about. Its not the same for women, they are generally much more attracted to different characteristics and being non needy and confident is one of them. Yes a needy women is a turn off too, but since women us…
/r/seduction01/09/21 08:43 AM
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Its a guessing game imo, she’s clearly not that much into you, so not contacting her enough might make her look for other options and move on and texting too much might make her lose attraction and end things. Don’t set yourself up for a heartbreak or disappointment. You making this topic shows that you are already very invested. Spread your investment and go invest in other women at the same time.
/r/seduction01/09/21 08:34 AM
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He’s right though, the fastest way to lose a woman is to overinvest before she does. If you want a woman to lose attraction that is the way to go.
/r/seduction01/09/21 08:30 AM
2

The point is your attitude towards it, no one is saying it doesn’t suck, no one is saying height doesn’t matter at all. You are not taking responsibility for your own life and success you are being a victim and you are “tired of being strong” trust me we have all been there in one way or another, you are nothing special. Fact is the victim mindset is horrible and a repellent for success and women. You are not helping yourself here.
/r/seduction29/08/21 09:18 AM
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Dude there are kids out there who were forced to murder their own parents, there’s 3 year olds with cancer and you are wining about being 5’7 it’s really pathetic. If I were a girl I’d be so turned off by your attitude already, you could have been 6’5 it wouldn’t matter
/r/seduction29/08/21 09:10 AM
1

Every time I see this sentence “it’s not fair” it seems very obvious why someone is not getting girls.
/r/seduction29/08/21 08:39 AM
6

What about if they reveal forearm in a sexy way?
/r/seduction28/08/21 04:05 PM
2

When they show bare legs you know they only want one thing!
/r/seduction28/08/21 03:57 PM
1

I put in the time, I have no magic pill for you, I was so frustrated with it that I made it one of my life’s priorities so I basically read every related book I could get my hands on, thought about everything, analyzed every social interaction I had, went out of my comfort zone, discussed it all with like minded friends and tried things through trial and error and many years and eventually the results came. I also which is part of the point I was making earlier, shifted from purely focusing on w…
/r/seduction28/08/21 09:17 AM
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I agree 100% on the millionaire and homeless comparison. So I’m def not saying it’s not super important, I am just saying don’t expect for it too solve all your problems and don’t just focus on that one thing
/r/seduction27/08/21 05:45 PM
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If you crave for love and affection, you probably have a problem with loving your self and that makes me doubt you are really fufilled. Feeling like my life is oke, its pretty good does not equal feeling fufilled. Anyway thats a lot of assumptions by me and I don't know you, you got to walk your own path in the end anyway. I was just trying to point you to a different perspective to at least consider and maybe explore.
/r/seduction27/08/21 03:41 PM
2

Haha this is probably so recognizable to anyone thats older than you, we all remember feeling like that over things that would be totally irrelevant to us nowadays. Its all about how much you care about what others think of you and how they perceive you as opposed to living for yourself and what you think about yourself. Whatever we say probably won’t make you feel different now, but you will live ( I mean this mistake won’t kill you) and by that you will in hindsight realize that it’s not that …
/r/seduction27/08/21 11:41 AM
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I think you should interpet purpose as something a little deeper than what you are grasping at now, it’s not something you just sit down to think about and realize what it is in a couple of hours.
/r/seduction27/08/21 08:49 AM
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What a dumb ass comment, it’s something people that have become successful with women say because they found out that it’s not the holy grail and there is much more to life than getting women and that those other things are even more important to your happiness and fulfillment
/r/seduction27/08/21 08:46 AM
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I just want to comment that I think this should be Something to do after you had sex with someone and not as part of your seduction plan. I have made the mistake many times of really trying to watch something with a girl, like searching for good movies, fun videos etc, but the better the content of what you are watching the worst the seduction probably will go. I think you should be escalating and like 5 mins into the movie things should be happening and it can be 20 mins into the movie but than…
/r/seduction27/08/21 08:39 AM
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“Can be” is quite different from “don’t do it”
/r/seduction26/08/21 10:11 AM
2

I only give physical compliments on the bedroom, outside of that I like to compliment characteristics.
/r/seduction25/08/21 01:15 PM
3

Also realize that you don’t know her at all, you have a romanticized image of her that you created inside your head. One of the biggest takeaways after many years of dating for me was to never again text for too long before meeting up, many of us have been there where you start to fill in the image you have of someone and create this ideal picture, only to be completely slapped back to reality when you finally meet in real life and they are completely different from what you imagined. Besides be…
/r/seduction25/08/21 09:17 AM
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Make sure she is comfortable First and after that , say 5-10 mins start escalating. If you wait for 30 Mins and watch a movie you already messed up a bit, by the way never really watch a movie. Its just an excuse to get together, you are not supposed to really watch it because it will Make things weird, you are either into the movie and watching or focusing on her
/r/seduction22/08/21 04:55 PM
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I like this advice, but at the same time you risk staying in your comfort zone and not escalating and thereby killing the vibe, so I would definitely try to escalate. Not force it, but have a plan of where and how you want things to go and not leave it all up to her.
/r/seduction22/08/21 10:23 AM
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Don't just do that out of spite, I don't know how much you like her. But it comes across a bit as if she does this than i will too, which will only make your relationship with her manipulative and toxic, I don't have solid advice for you what to do though.
/r/seduction22/08/21 10:14 AM
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I'd personally ask her again, but only after a flirty interaction where she's obviously into you again. She might have all kinds of rational objections o dating on the job or whatever else, so that's why I wouldn't just coldly invite her for a drink, but get her into more of an emotional state first
/r/seduction21/08/21 08:18 AM
1

This has been discussed 100’s of times, Google escalation ladder. The kiss is a small step in a progression.
/r/seduction20/08/21 03:00 PM
1

If this is your attitude, why bother with anything at all dude, why even make a topic what’s in it for you? What are you getting out of making this topic? You are a victim everything is determined and you have no influence, why not just lay down and wait for death (while complaining about shit obviously)
/r/seduction16/08/21 01:51 PM
1

You sound like a fun guy, I’m sure there is something wrong with all the girls and not with you
/r/seduction09/08/21 05:34 PM
2

I rarely sleep with someone on the first date and I rarely have girls not wanting to meet up after we slept together. So I really think that seems to be the big difference with you. I also have my doubts, don't take it personal because I obviously don't know you, about you creating a deep connection with the girls, because if you did you won't get rid of them that easily. If you want more than sex from these girls, make it about that, so make the time together be about getting to know her and co…
/r/seduction08/08/21 10:38 AM
1

I have been obsessed with training for the last 20 years, so I am following tons of strength, sport science, mobility etc channels, the weak links are almost the same in everyone, we all sit too much and type and are on our phones so we all have that forward head weak glutes anterior pelvic tilt etc etc .
/r/seduction07/08/21 08:57 PM
0

Did you get road head and did she die while giving it ?
/r/seduction07/08/21 01:34 PM
1

It seems you are asking if you can reach the same point in terms of being attractive to women without focusing on the metrics that get you more value with women, is that correct? I think by focussing on what makes you happy as opposed to what you know will score points with women. As your example, maybe you don't want to be clubbing all the time and are more happy with a small social circle of good friends. You will be living more authentically, true to yourself and happy. In therory I'd say thi…
/r/seduction07/08/21 01:24 PM
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This^ Talk to a lot of women, go on dates too imo, have options, have a social life and a work life, basically lots of things going on. Things to do where you don't check your phone for hours and can forget about her and focus on other things for periods.
/r/seduction07/08/21 01:16 PM
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I didn't watch all the vids, but I don't believe in correcting posture by just adopting good posture or doing some stretching or light exercises. I tried all that shit for 10 years quite obsessively and what helped in the end was finding the weak links and training them with progressive load.
/r/seduction07/08/21 12:57 PM
1

Proud of you too!
/r/seduction07/08/21 12:54 PM
2

Lol@consent. Come on man did you ask her to sign a form if she was ok with you making a topic about her?
/r/seduction07/08/21 08:25 AM
1

On one hand be prepared to have sex as in try to keep Escalating towards it and don’t leave it up to her to escalate, have your logistics planned. On the other hand don’t expect sex and don’t be outcome dependent as in enjoy yourself have fun, laugh, be yourself.
/r/seduction06/08/21 07:17 PM
1

Weird
/r/seduction06/08/21 07:14 PM
1

Do you have pictures showing off your body on your profile? Bikini pics, cleavage etc
/r/seduction06/08/21 07:07 PM
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I’ve had 2 similar experiences earlier this year, I’m not from this ghosting generation, but I’m still baffled by it, I mean the girls were totally into me, it was so weird. Ah to make it even weirder one of them followed me on Instagram after she ghosted me and is liking my pictures… like wtf dude 😂 I totally feel you in being confused I figured maybe something like their ex boyfriend came back or something, I don’t know and actually I don’t care anymore either, if that’s how you deal with peop…
/r/seduction06/08/21 05:56 PM
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The problem is likely that you are too scared too say anything offensive or that she doesn’t like for the fear of losing her. If this assumption is correct you need to deal with the fact that not everyone likes everyone and that you can get rejected. The counterintuitive thing is the safer you play it and the less of your personality you display the less attraction you will create. I believe these concepts are important to realize here. Its most likely your fear of rejection that needs to be add…
/r/seduction05/08/21 05:38 PM
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Agreed, especially with boundaries. When I put my foot down and I feel the “mood is ruined” sometimes I feel the urge to fix the situation by being funny or engaging or starting a different conversation. But every time I just take a step back and continue my life they come back with even more respect because I wasn’t needy and stuck to my principles.
/r/seduction04/08/21 02:47 PM
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That’s your scarcity right there, what I see is most men are showing emasculated behavior and are constantly looking how to get validation from women (like this topic) and this makes most women crave for some masculinity and need us men more than ever before. Welcome to a new world of seduction Guess it’s a case of perspective
/r/seduction04/08/21 12:03 PM
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Im much older and I almost always pick them up with the scooter, it’s great for kino I literally tell them to grab my waist, I rest my arm on their leg when we have to wait and I think it’s a great thing as in the rush of driving. Not going to lie, I have thought about it too and been insecure about it especially with women with high living standards, but even they sometimes just love it and enjoy it and tbh if it’s “not good enough” for someone fuck m, I don’t want to get dragged into that whol…
/r/seduction03/08/21 05:29 PM
1

I guess if you were to conquer this “weakness” it could bring you tremendous happiness in terms of a feeling of accomplishment through struggle, that being said just figure out if you really want to fix this and if you do go for it and if you don’t try day game
/r/seduction02/08/21 08:47 AM
1

Haha have this regularly, but I’ll just ask the resident pt’s to check the system for me or ask them
/r/seduction01/08/21 06:53 PM
1

My view is more positive and I also see a general positive line in this sub so personally I view the whole seduction process more as a fun positive experience than a predatory endeavor
/r/seduction01/08/21 02:42 PM
1

Its a complicated thing, post nut syndrome is also real. I have had instances where I really liked a girl and saw potential, but after we had sex, she annoys the fuck out of me and I am just left bewildered like what the fuck did I see in her. Attraction/ hormones do crazy shit to you. Also it’s not a bad thing to want to have sex with someone, so postponing it what does it actually do? I mean what does it prove, basically just that someone is willing to sit it out, but is that a good thing nece…
/r/seduction01/08/21 02:25 PM
1

I think you need to make up your mind first, because if you will try to achieve something while deep down you don’t want it you will find ways not to achieve it. I also think you need to read More into what a nice guy actually means in the seduction context, because I get the feeling you don’t have the definitions clear and just think a nice guy means being “nice”
/r/seduction01/08/21 12:11 PM
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I spent years being uncomfortable in clubs, I do think it’s something to keep Working on but i also choose my battles and I can’t work on every fucking thing, so I sort of chose to accept I’m not a clubbing person even though deep down I would like to improve there and have fun in a club. I do feel more comfortable in clubs compared to the past, simply by getting older and working on myself and therefore just being more comfortable in my own skin wherever I am
/r/seduction01/08/21 12:08 PM
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Its definitely not cool and I am personally struggling with it too and I am working on it, I still have an issue with getting rejected and therefore I also deeply hate rejecting people. This combined with a weird scarcity vs abundance mentality makes these situations come to fruition. I will date a girl, see that our values don’t align or for other reasons just know I don’t want a relationship with her and my abundance of female attention is big enough to not lie to her or still try to sleep wit…
/r/seduction01/08/21 09:09 AM
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I agree and somehow I always respect the women that do walk away after I say it and keep their power which oddly enough makes them more attractive to me and the ones that despite me saying it still want to have sex lose a bit of my respect as they clearly give their power away, which translates to me as low self respect I just disagree with the waiting with sex till you are in a relationship because the sex for me is also a very important part of the relationship, but I definitely think it’s bet…
/r/seduction01/08/21 08:54 AM
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If you are looking for a Ltr just tell them you had a good time and they are great but it probably won’t work. To clarify, when I tell that to a girl after or before a date what I mean is i dont consider you an option for a relationship and I don’t care if you say no but I’d have sex with you if I absolutely don’t have to put in any effort
/r/seduction31/07/21 10:01 PM
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You attract similar people, if you have your own shit together you filter out the crazies in general, that being said all women are crazy
/r/seduction31/07/21 09:56 PM
3

This
/r/seduction31/07/21 08:55 AM
1

People will weasel around anyway they can till they find something to blame that is not themselves for their failing. It makes it so much easier to select who I don’t want to be around.
/r/seduction31/07/21 08:53 AM
1

Being a victim is the new successful
/r/seduction31/07/21 08:50 AM
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Let’s leave in the middle for a moment if you can or should be friends with girls. You name some benefits of being friends with girls, but I think if you come from the perspective that you shouldn’t, which would entice not being kept around like a pet around someone you actually want but doesn’t want you which is quite degrading and one could say lacks self respect and self love, ( I guess this is my viewpoint) it’s quite weird to name the benefits of being in a bad situation. ( yeah I’m in pris…
/r/seduction31/07/21 08:46 AM
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Are you sure a casual hookup or a ons is what you really want and or need? It will usually end in bad feelings and most of the time for the girl.
/r/seduction28/07/21 11:19 AM
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Just thinking out loud here, you can try to be the one to stop the make outs. I always stop them by grabbing their face and pushing them away it makes them crazy and it also enforced the frame that they want something (sex) from me. As it makes it unsure if they are getting it and if I want it etc. A lot of people will tell you to always keep escalating, i feel differently but I am open to being wrong here in the bigger scheme, that being said I will often cut it off after making out and I think…
/r/seduction28/07/21 11:14 AM
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One of the worst things for my game was learning about the Ioi’s back in the day. This made me not go for a kiss numerous times when In hindsight the girls were like wtf is wrong with this guy why doesn’t he make a move. I have a lot of experiences where girls were literally in my bed cuddling with me and I was still looking for “signs” and fucked up. Nowadays I assume attraction and if I am escalating and she is clearly enjoying it or at least not disliking it that’s all the ioi I need.
/r/seduction28/07/21 11:05 AM
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I had a similar situation don’t worry about it, it is what it is and relatively you are still very young and have plenty of time so just accept your situation and start building up
/r/seduction28/07/21 08:44 AM
1

Pretty good comparison, never thought about it like that
/r/seduction27/07/21 07:00 PM
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If you are willing to be with someone that dumped you like a sack of potatoes, you have no self respect and there is no fairytale ending to it
/r/seduction27/07/21 09:12 AM
1

Hey I am going to or going to check out this amazing… fair, place thing whatever, or I’m going for a picnic in area x, want to come along ? Doesn’t have to be an alternative could be an additional Meeting before the other or you could say I can’t make it to the original meeting and propose an alternative
/r/seduction23/07/21 03:42 PM
1

Could also just be something she said to not have the pressure of you expecting sex and maybe she still wanted you to escalate in the moment. I personally feel you should still escalate and obviously respect her boundary if she says no.
/r/seduction23/07/21 02:52 PM
1

Did you kiss her or have sex yet? It sounds like it’s on the verge of being friendzone or you are already in there, I have no idea where these other comments come from, but they are clearly a different crowd
/r/seduction23/07/21 08:48 AM
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Very familiar, my issue is that This good abundance mindset makes me sleep With less women which will Sometime make me get back to a bit of scarcity in terms of sexual needs and makes me drop the bar a bit and I sleep with women again that don’t spark that attraction like you put it.
/r/seduction23/07/21 08:43 AM
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Yes every incel is on that level. Ps I just came here because I thought someone misspelled Dom Perignon
/r/seduction23/07/21 08:33 AM
1

They are both lame
/r/seduction22/07/21 10:07 AM
1

Haha I know the wtf feeling, just saw a girl that was suddenly pregnant and some other time a girl was getting married and I was like but wait we were seeing each other like x weeks ago
/r/seduction22/07/21 09:56 AM
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Put in the work dude, there’s more than enough information available on this reddit to get you going. If you get stuck or wonder about something specific make a post. But what you are asking now is just give me the answers while you don’t even have specific questions
/r/seduction22/07/21 09:54 AM
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I have been here a lot in the past. Just push yourself to escalate, don't overthink about looking needy etc. Just tell her hey come sit here next to me and if she sits somewhere else just keep talking and when you get her laughing tell her again come sit with me. Escalate physically and go for a kiss. You create the moments, don't wait for her to give you opportnities. It might be too late or it might not be, who knows, worst case you get the practise in and you can be proud of yourself for goin…
/r/seduction21/07/21 06:09 PM
3

the rest of the world is there for me to exploit dude...
/r/seduction21/07/21 05:59 PM
2

Relationships should only be something you potentially think about after you found someone that you are compatible with in terms of sex and those other things.
/r/seduction21/07/21 05:55 PM
2

The modern concept is that we are all enough, happy, whole etc deep down inside and that improving ourselves is basically peeling off added layers like on an onion, layers of insecurities and anxieties that make us behave like idiots. I quit the old school mystery game because it was like you describe just pushing the right buttons and i felt like a fraud and even recently i have experienced it where I turned neutral women into me by pushing the buttons and displaying behavior I know would attra…
/r/seduction21/07/21 05:53 PM
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Don’t get angry at women, just get better at all Of this, read this reddit, follow some good channels on YouTube, read some recommended books and all the while work on yourself and understanding the underlying principles of attraction. If you are willing to take responsibility for your own life and willing to put in the work and face the struggle, you will be fine
/r/seduction19/07/21 09:18 PM
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Jesus some of these dumb ass comments, wait a couple of days and tru again to see if it’s still recoverable, but be prepared and have a plan have something to say something interesting something that makes you look interesting (without bragging, but something that shows positive things about you) and that provokes her to answer you back and keep the ball rolling from there.
/r/seduction19/07/21 07:00 PM
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The way I view it, there’s an overall feeling you bring out of someone and you can have major Major flaws or down sides but when some of your other qualities are amazing to her she will Let it slide until the total balance drops below a threshold and than it can suddenly become a dealbreaker. So mainly it depends on how much she is into you, I had my best first date ever a while ago and on the second date I was just totally off and I literally got a text afterwards that said : who are you? Lmao.…
/r/seduction19/07/21 02:07 PM
4

What about just directly communicating this to him?
/r/seduction19/07/21 02:00 PM
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Not sure if you are depressed or just a huge victim. If it’s the first I’m sorry and I hope you get out of it and if it’s the second, grow some balls and stop Being a child, I am super allergic to this ultimate victim mindset and so are women.
/r/seduction12/07/21 06:07 PM
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How do you imagine it being easy being together with someone you will always expect of not liking you for who you are, someone you can expect to jump ship if a richer guy comes along and that will probably go and fuck other dudes behind your back because you clearly don’t have what it takes to be attractive to woman (not an insult but you clearly trying to get the easy way around it that doesn’t exist), it will just make you more insecure than you already are. She will hate you and herself for t…
/r/seduction12/07/21 04:14 PM
1

Dude I was a virgin at 18, I felt my life was over And i messed it up at 25 than at 30 than again at 35 and now I am easing into it more, I see people starting new careers at 60. I went from a dude at your age that was afraid to talk to any girl couldn’t touch them had no idea what to say and was super insecure, to now sometimes waking up to 5 different girls messaging me and wanting to hang out. Perspective dude, people of my age read your post and it looks ridiculous in a way that even if you …
/r/seduction12/07/21 01:38 PM
1

Ok so you are sour.
/r/seduction11/07/21 02:45 PM
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I have no clue what you are talking about, “pump and dump” the dude said you are very pretty and asked if she was single. You are talking about bullshit and pump and dump, it seems you are quite sour actually
/r/seduction11/07/21 02:42 PM
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No one talked about hot, I think if someone. Makes you a compliment and you feel the need to put them down because you are insecure and don’t know how to deal with it in a mature way you are not someone I would want to be around
/r/seduction11/07/21 02:21 PM
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Where do you detect that ?
/r/seduction11/07/21 02:14 PM
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Man don’t sweat it, it’s clearly insecurity on her part, so she did you a favor of disqualifying herself, you don’t need someone like that in your life.
/r/seduction11/07/21 09:41 AM
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No just no, I get that you need to get comfortable to make moves, but you got to realize that the exact opposite is what is attractive to women. A guy that is comfortable from the start, like an actor that can be himself in front of cameras and people. So when you shy away and are uncomfortable that is unattractive. She's uncomfortable and not making moves you are uncomfortable and not making moves its little kids shit. You should be leading her by going first and making the moves, that's what w…
/r/seduction09/07/21 06:51 PM
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You clearly don't value/ respect yourself, so don't expect her to suddenly respect you or value your time. If you drive all the way and make all that shit happen (dude I drink 2$ tea with my dates and I don't want to travel more than 10 mins) and you are wondering if you are entertaining her enough and even apologize for it. I'm guessing you didn't kiss her, you didn't flirt at all and made no moves. It just depends on how much she initially liked you to see how long it will take you to the frie…
/r/seduction09/07/21 06:48 PM
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They don't reply because hey are not very interested and just being polite and they are non confrontational, so instead of just saying this won't work or I'm not interested and reject you they will give hints like not replying not initiating etc at the same time they are emotions driven so they might suddenly act all engaged again when they are bored or just keep you around for validation and attention and feeling wanted. Imo when they take a long time to respond it's best to accept they are not…
/r/seduction09/07/21 06:18 PM
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Break the bounds that you are operating in, take control of the frame, there are no bounds. So If she says something, you don't have to reply to that frame or particular thing she says. Entertain yourself and say crazy shit, it shows creativity it shows dominance and it shows you don't give a fuck and do what you think is funny and start replying with shit you think is funny and not what you think she will think is funny or witty.
/r/seduction09/07/21 06:07 PM
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I will think about, if I would be able to get my "out of comfort zone growth" by just being social. Thanks for your input.
/r/seduction09/07/21 05:51 PM
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I totally feel you and I think I would be happiest like that too, but I am aware that in that situation my skills would be stagnant and I am not where I want to be yet (no idea if I ever will) my best self comes out when I improve and get out of my comfortzone so I sort of decided that continuing to date would be most beneficial to me. But my feeling is at least pulling me towards a set up like that too, in the past though I learned I become complacent quickly and when my abundance goes out the …
/r/seduction09/07/21 03:50 PM
2

Actually with me part of my problem is that I am so much into connecting with people that even when im not sexually into them I’ll still connect and that’s part of my issue. I mean I still want to see them as friends or Something after a date. I almost always connect with people and it makes me feel superficial too when I cut it off just because of not enough sexual attraction, at the same time that is what I want in a romantic partner. Connecting is also a huge part of my game, I’m Not at a lev…
/r/seduction09/07/21 02:50 PM
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Lol!, just put a lot of effort in improving your game and over time you’ll get there
/r/seduction09/07/21 01:57 PM
1

I think you know exactly what’s happening and you also answer it yourself in your post. You didn’t think about lack of intent and escalation for no reason, you probably feel it.
/r/seduction05/07/21 08:40 AM
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Dont overthink, I used to bring nothing which is fine, nowadays when I see friends I bring small things like some beers, something from a bakery, a meal whatever but just because I started To enjoy sharing things I like so I’ll bring my favorite pastry for example because I want people to taste it, so when I’m seeing girls for sex I’ll usually also bring something, but it’s because I enjoy so and not because I feel I need to or am supposed to.
/r/seduction02/07/21 12:11 PM
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If you feel like approaching people makes them feel uncomfortable and therefore you shouldn’t do it, that’s your loss. I am sure someone out there is also offended when you are happy because they are not happy. I’m not ridiculing your stance but you will have to draw your own line somewhere and if you think that showing interest in a woman is bothering her, not putting words in your mouth, but this is where I feel this is going, it basically means other peoples feelings are more important to you…
/r/seduction28/06/21 11:49 AM
2

By Not letting your happiness be based on you succes with women. You make your own metrics for happiness and succes. Maybe you don’t need food, maybe the thing you think you need isn’t all that and there are other things that you are unaware of and of their importance for your happiness that you could be pursuing
/r/seduction28/06/21 08:49 AM
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So fucking what? I did a bootcamp way back and one of the things they had me do is re approach the same girls like 4 times, even after I said ridiculous things to them. Its exactly to get you out of that stupid mindset of it looking weird or being weird or whatever they will think of you when you approach them again or when they see you approach others, or if your friend thinks you are cool, or if the neighbor thinks you listen to cool or stupid music or if the driver in the car next to you thin…
/r/seduction28/06/21 08:19 AM
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Just shut up dude go back to your basement
/r/seduction27/06/21 03:06 PM
1

This just means if you are willing to put in the work your best years in terms of life enjoyment are ahead of you! You making this topic means you are seriously frustrated which is good, let it fuel your actions to get better socially and with women and there is only up from here on, good luck
/r/seduction26/06/21 08:59 AM
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Yeah sure, but have something to say don’t just send something and basically sit back after that and expect her to do all the seducing. Could be a picture of the table and you can tell her you are playing with friends, that you need tips, that you feel you got so good in the last 10 minutes of playing that you would definitely beat her, whatever and after some talk you could set up a pool date indeed
/r/seduction25/06/21 03:25 PM
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Im not a fan of that type of value taking questions, I prefer telling something. Maybe regarding something you discussed earlier and you have something related that you saw like hey I saw This video of a dog and it reminded me of you, or you just start telling something like you won’t believe what happened to me today,I ... just throwing some random suggestions out there. Of course its not forbidden to ask questions, but have some value to share don’t let the value taking be the centre of the co…
/r/seduction25/06/21 11:54 AM
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I usually escalate as in propose dates on a high emotional spike, so I’d try to create that again. Basically I will throw out value again by starting new interesting conversation, flirting, joking and when I notice it’s spiking her emotions and she’s clearly enjoying the conversation I will propose a date again. So basically you start all over in your seduction and seduce her she is cold now and you need to invest to warm her up
/r/seduction25/06/21 11:32 AM
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I think I get where you are coming from but it’s borderlining creepiness, I have had instances where I got rejected but I just really didn’t care and just kept talking with 0 neediness and not trying to convert them and they somehow picked up on that emotional unreactiveness and got super attracted, then again like someone said it’s a fine line to walk because especially if you are aware that it’s a rejection you should respect someone’s boundaries aswel.
/r/seduction25/06/21 11:28 AM
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The more experienced I get the more I appreciate a woman that’s in touch with her sexuality and knows what she wants and is very sexual and those usually have a higher body count, when I was young I was feeling that whole insecure comparing myself to other guys thing with women so a high body count made me uncomfortable because more material to compare me with I guess, now I don’t care as much what someone would think of me and I care more about my own experience so I think a higher body count c…
/r/seduction25/06/21 08:03 AM
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There are a lot of women that are just as aware of the mechanics of attraction as men are, most women are not though as are most men. I like it when I talk with women about seduction and they disagree only to think about examples in their life and come back on their disagreement and agree.
/r/seduction20/06/21 04:41 PM
2

Somehow you assume you approaching is bothering someone. Don’t you ever have a routine boring day and someone strikes up a conversation with you somewhere on the street and it makes your whole day?
/r/seduction14/06/21 08:49 AM
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Work on listening and asking questions, don’t insert your own opinions, experiences or advice unless asked for, don’t judge and try to really listen and put yourself in the others’s shoes and try to find out how they feel about things and why from an authentic point of view, don’t ask standard questions ask how things made them feel, if they would have waned to do something different, those kinds of things. If you can give people that feeling of someone really listening to them they will connect…
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:41 PM
1

You are imagining things
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:35 PM
1

With more rejection comes more incentive to get better. Think of all the guys that just get by barely based on their looks , they are with girls that chose them they have no power of their own, no skills. They just never hit that absolute rock bottom that motivated some people to really get good at this no matter what.
/r/seduction10/06/21 06:52 PM
1

So you are just saying nice things to them and out of nowhere they start saying cruel things?
/r/seduction05/06/21 07:34 PM
1

So men just come up to you and say cruel things ?
/r/seduction05/06/21 07:11 PM
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Don’t have an issue with you, maybe what you think is upfront and honest is hurting peoples feelings, who knows, I didn’t suggest you deserve anything. I don’t blame anyone for anything that happens to me that’s the whole point I am trying to make, I look at myself when I have an issue with someone.
/r/seduction05/06/21 07:08 PM
2

I was using shallow as an example, I can almost guarantee you you need to take a good look at your own behavior.
/r/seduction05/06/21 06:51 PM
0

So how come you attract these kind of people? I will stand corrected, but somehow I don’t think you display the high quality behaviors yourself that you seem to want in a partner. Again not saying you are, but it’s always the girl that has 10 pictures of her ass on her dating profile that is complaining about men being shallow.
/r/seduction05/06/21 06:45 PM
1

Are you getting numbers online or live, also if you are bad at texting you can always call them.
/r/seduction05/06/21 06:24 PM
0

Not saying you are, because I don't know anything about you, but every single time someone talks to me or I see a profile about people being fake people being rude whatever it's what they attract with their own behavior and usually its a projection of their own behavior. (so basically saying you probably are).
/r/seduction05/06/21 06:21 PM
1

So how do you explain people going from getting no women at all to abundance?
/r/seduction05/06/21 10:15 AM
1

What are you responding to? If it’s to my post, try to read it again calmly before responding
/r/seduction05/06/21 10:14 AM
1

So you think you have no influence on whether someone is attracted to you?
/r/seduction05/06/21 09:57 AM
1

So?
/r/seduction05/06/21 09:54 AM
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He chooses to focus on the other huge factors that he can control and you choose to focus on these factors that you can’t control, you choose how you want to live your life, enough said
/r/seduction05/06/21 08:42 AM
1

So maybe your definition of success should be adjusted to something that you have the full capability over to achieve it. To me success and my goals are for example actions that I want to (be able) to take not things to achieve necessarily that way external factors have no influence in my success .
/r/seduction05/06/21 08:37 AM
3

Very well written, great post
/r/seduction05/06/21 08:35 AM
1

I feel you, but the having of more choice is not a bad thing, it makes me much more selective an makes me get to find out more and more what I actually want in a woman. That feeling of consumerism is what I get when I just keep dating women based on their looks, like I already know they wont be gf material , but they are hot.
/r/seduction01/06/21 01:29 PM
2

such a random bullshit reply, what is this knowledge based on?
/r/seduction01/06/21 01:27 PM
1

Do you have a very clear, though out, list of qualities and values you want in a woman (your ideal woman) if not you could make one and think where these women fall according to your list, it will sort of take out the feelings of "love" and just show you the facts.
/r/seduction01/06/21 01:20 PM
1

While I am at it, why the need to tell everyone you are straight 2 times in the first sentence. There are male prostitutes too Fyi
/r/seduction27/05/21 03:57 PM
1

YES, this whole thing is a process with failures and sticking points that you have to go through, so if you procrastinate starting it now, maybe you will enter at a slightly higher level, but you will still have to go through all the motions, the failures, the learning moments, the reflections. So get in asap.
/r/seduction27/05/21 12:23 PM
1

I wish I knew, I didn't get any back then.
/r/seduction27/05/21 12:18 PM
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You got some serious issues going on why are you bothered and invested so much in such a random thing? Just go to a prostitute if you want it so badly and stop caring so much about what others think of you or what others do.
/r/seduction27/05/21 12:15 PM
1

I know if I make such a comment, I should follow up with a solid answer, so my apologies, but I will go from memory. I think the whole drinking water thing is debunked and you should just drink when you are thirsty, also water kickstarting the digestive system I believe is not true. I don't think a cold shower stimulates testosteron, in fact I think there is literally nothing that is really proven to boost testosteron if you don't have some condition or cause lowering it. Balanced breakfast, or …
/r/seduction15/05/21 12:17 PM
1

I love it and it would def do most people good, but I will point out there is a lot of pseudo scientific bullshit in there. I don’t want to flame the entire post because I def like it though
/r/seduction14/05/21 09:20 AM
1

Just try to be confident, have fun with it, make her feel comfortable and when she is comfortable escalate and flirt a bit. They can say they want sex but it will Still be about how you make them feel In real life, so imo at least don’t come In all over her or talking about sex immediately, just treat it as a normal date but maybe skip Some parts and do everything faster
/r/seduction13/05/21 03:41 PM
1

That sounds like a good way to still fuck it up
/r/seduction13/05/21 03:40 PM
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A dickpic
/r/seduction06/05/21 07:28 PM
1

Tinder mostly, social circle some and circumstantial approaches like chatting up hairdressers or waitresses very little
/r/seduction06/05/21 09:19 AM
1

Its the difference between being needy and maybe giving up your values to get girls and having yourself and you needs, your values as a priority, it doesn’t mean we don’t want girls anymore or seduce them, because we do, we just don’t chase anymore we don’t give our power away anymore and as you can tell by multiple replies, that focus shift from girls to developing and caring for ourselves, maybe counterintuitively comes with better results with women for a lot of us
/r/seduction28/04/21 06:05 PM
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I like how people filter out high quality people by setting dumb ass standards and afterwards complain they can’t find a good high quality match.
/r/seduction28/04/21 09:03 AM
2

Is recommend to indulge in pick up/ seduction material, without taking action it won’t bring you results per se, but it can provide a basis in understanding social dynamics, women and behaviors. So you won’t feel so lost in it all and can work on a plan on to improve specific points.
/r/seduction27/04/21 01:06 PM
1

I can vouch for this ^ 60% of the time it works all the time
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:56 PM
1

Ok, so research confidence, what it is and how to become more confident.
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:53 PM
1

But you don’t believe them. So you know they are not true, so again what’s the issue
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:50 PM
1

So why are you here if you are already sure no woman wants you approaching her. I don’t see a question or anything.
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:48 PM
1

Tell her she doesn’t know you, but you already know everything about her. Where she gets her groceries, what time she gets up, where her friends live, what outfits she has that you like. She’ll appreciate your investment
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:46 PM
1

Women spend thousands on sexy lingerie and such, I can’t speak for all men, but rarely do I give a fuck about it. Usually just seeing her in a thong is as much a turn on as her special 400$ lingerie and I just want to get it off asap
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:43 PM
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I think low self esteem is a huge turn off to “high quality guys” so yes a low self esteem woman can get laid and get low quality relationships with needy guys super easy as compared to low self esteem guys, but to find a high quality relationship will be just as hard and require lots of personal development hard work, so just as for guys, some things (what you are asking for) can help a bit, but in the end it won’t matter much, probably even less as for guys, because you can already get laid.
/r/seduction25/04/21 08:55 AM
1

I don’t disagree, I am just offering a different perspective that it’s to be expected and human as opposed to the perspective that women are evil bitches to exaggerate my point a bit
/r/seduction24/04/21 10:47 AM
0

Well I think it’s understandable if a woman is insecure and has a scarcity mindset that she would keep guys around, options open. Let’s be honest most of us operate from a scarcity mindset too and even when we know a woman is not the perfect fit woman of our dreams, or when we have some conflicting values, we will still continue to see her, until something better comes around
/r/seduction24/04/21 08:34 AM
1

Definitely get more in touch with your feelings and become unapologetic about them, only then can you find your own values and live your life instead of living for others or according to other peoples values. I have waisted half of my life imitating some thug image I had in my mind of what a cool guy was, just because I chose someone elses values.Get your own values and choose your role models according to those. In the end if we are talking about women, being authentic and in tune with your fee…
/r/seduction23/04/21 08:32 AM
1

What do you mean with imitated others
/r/seduction22/04/21 09:31 PM
2

Maybe you have a different view of what a confident guy is
/r/seduction22/04/21 06:04 PM
2

Maybe with 15 year old insecure boys. Being in touch with your feelings compared to being ashamed of them or hiding them is strong and not weak. Not being ashamed and expressing what you feel, sharing your vulnerable feelings is something confident people are able to do as opposed to that little kid that says “I don’t care” after his girlfriend breaks up with him
/r/seduction22/04/21 06:02 PM
1

Haha yeah I am
/r/seduction22/04/21 05:56 PM
3

I personally think it’s very Masculine.
/r/seduction22/04/21 04:30 PM
1

Where did you get the idea that feeling too much is feminine dude
/r/seduction22/04/21 03:25 PM
5

Was just thinking about this the other day, for me it were 2 things mainly . 1 is not being anxious, I understand now that when you are stressed you go into fight or flight mode and all functions like being creative get shut down. So as I got more confident and less anxious on dates, I had more access to let’s call it creativity. 2. Listening! I learned to listen, to really listen. So I stopped already thinking about what to say while someone else is still talking and I stopped throwing in my 2 …
/r/seduction20/04/21 08:51 PM
4

I typed and deleted my reply like 5 times thinking about it, I mean I know how I got there but it’s not something valuable I can tell that i think would help. I have also discussed this previously with a friend and its basically a positive byproduct of a lot of suffering. So it would be stupid to go and tell someone to go and dedicate half of your life to something they probably don’t even like doing. I guess find something you like doing that is hard, really hard where other people quit and you…
/r/seduction17/04/21 10:28 PM
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I would say I am the type, I am def not socially outgoing, but I am usually in control, so in a group a lot of people will still look at me for validation, see if I laugh about their jokes and start qualifying to me. I feel like socially outgoing doesn’t have much to do with being in control ,leading, having high perceived value and being emotionally stable (being alpha imo) So you can be comfortable and confident without being high energy.
/r/seduction17/04/21 03:46 PM
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The paradoxical thing is, as soon as you do get that car you wish you had that would make you good enough, you will project that and attract a girl that likes you because you have a nice car. Great from a scarcity perspective to get low quality girls. But a girl that would like you for who you are would like you without that car.
/r/seduction16/04/21 07:08 PM
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Try Brazil dude
/r/seduction16/04/21 06:49 PM
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I think what you are asking for is that when you ask her if what you are doing feels good it takes away from the ideal that you know exactly what you are doing confidently and also that you are too focused on her pleasure instead of enjoying yourself. Which goes back to that putting her on a pedestal lowering your own value, if you are just enjoying yourself you are taking the pressure off of her too, where as if you clearly are super focused on her there is pressure on her. This is one of those…
/r/seduction16/04/21 11:46 AM
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I currently have no passion projects to fill that gap with. It works for 1-2 days.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:35 PM
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If I felt I could I would, constantly struggling to be productive. I wish my life would be no social media no reddit, just reading, being social and working on improving my life.
/r/seduction10/04/21 07:59 PM
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Dont know why this is so downvoted, I was raised without a tv and no intellectual I have ever Met had his tv as the centerpiece of the livingroom like most people seem to do. I wish I lived without a tv and wasn’t watching so much nonsense.
/r/seduction10/04/21 07:17 PM
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Think about me when you are getting laid! Oh no wait 🤔
/r/seduction07/04/21 12:02 PM
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You could also (video) or just normal call them if that suits you better than texting and you feel Like you can display your personality better that way, it might even be a good move to show that you are comfortable.
/r/seduction07/04/21 11:34 AM
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I Might be completely off with the limited info but I’ll give it a go: sounds like a lot of value taking, all the boring standard questions. I know people recommend not to text too much but I feel that is basically to save needy idiots from fucking things up, I think if you text with a goal and keep going somewhere it’s justified. You might try to incorporate a little more value building instead of just taking value, display some more personality, tell stories give your opinion bring up topics. …
/r/seduction07/04/21 11:24 AM
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Too little information, to really tell. Are you texting them non stop and being very needy? Or are you doing the opposite and just saying 2 sentences and already pushing for a date? What kind of dates are you proposing, a walk or a netflix and chill? What do your texting interactions look like?
/r/seduction07/04/21 09:51 AM
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I wonder about the same thing, but more in general with setting boundaries.I feel like clearly stating a boundary is often just getting emotional and showing way too much investment, where just ignoring it is also kind of weak, because you both know you notice it and this whole totally not caring makes no sense either. You can't be talking about your dads leaving you and how it makes you feel and influenced your lives and a day later supposedly not care at all about someone. I see you try to fin…
/r/seduction07/04/21 09:20 AM
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Even those girls that are not on social media, will check their phone multiple times a day if they are into you. Having a girl cancel our date for tomorrow right now, without any attempt to reschedule... just have to accept she is not into me that much.
/r/seduction06/04/21 09:08 AM
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You come across as someone with a bad midface ratio right now dude
/r/seduction05/04/21 06:09 PM
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Sounds good, definitely checking it out
/r/seduction05/04/21 04:49 PM
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Probably insecurity and rejecting others so they put themselves in the judgement seat to make sure they can’t get judged and rejected by others when they do it first.
/r/seduction05/04/21 04:47 PM
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Its so weird how confident I feel after a haircut and how many flirtations and positive interactions I always get because of it. But I always have this side connotation feeling that it’s a bad thing because it’s basing my confidence off of external things
/r/seduction05/04/21 04:45 PM
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Not sure if joking or someone that tortures little animals in his basement because their ratio is bad and they mess up the aesthetics of life
/r/seduction05/04/21 04:43 PM
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Maybe just ask the time next time or directions if you have to you could ask it to some Guys first even. After asking directions or the time you could optionally add something like a compliment or a question edit : if the mountain is too big of a task break it up into smaller easier achievable goals and often when you are in motion you can and will keep going after reaching the smaller goals
/r/seduction01/04/21 10:40 PM
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Very relatable yeah.
/r/seduction01/04/21 01:04 PM
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Haha totally relate, I can walk outside and have girls flirting with me everywhere, feel on top of the world super grateful and happy to be alive strike up conversations with random people have a great time and get 5-10 good matches a day, have multiple women texting me to meet up daily and 3 days later I walk around with a heavy feeling, feeling unattractive, feeling aimless etcetera. Its literally the glass is half full and half empty perspective shift. I noticed I still base too much of my mo…
/r/seduction01/04/21 11:32 AM
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So you don’t understand what working on yourself means, it is not all the external things you are clearly working on, which are also important, its the internal work that you are clearly avoiding. So yeah “work on yourself”
/r/seduction01/04/21 11:22 AM
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Show some intent, make it a man to woman conversation. Flirt, keep strong eye contact, touch her. Don’t make it a friend to friend interaction
/r/seduction01/04/21 11:18 AM
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In my view its like getting turned on for woman which is often described as a volume knob that slowely gets turned on, I think the tipping point has a similar road. It feels like you constantly put some value (showing your personality) out there and when she has absorbed enough and feels like you stand out from the rest enough the tipping point is reached and she gets interested and the balance shifts. Like a certain threshold needs to get reached which is different for any girl dependent on mul…
/r/seduction01/04/21 11:13 AM
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It looks to me like you are randomly putting two things together and connecting them.
/r/seduction01/04/21 11:08 AM
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I saw someone on this subreddit describe confidence, I am paraphrasing, as “the ability to know that you will be fine despite the outcome” and I totally love it. I figured it was knowing that you will succeed, which always felt weird since you don’t totally control most outcomes.
/r/seduction31/03/21 07:24 PM
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I try to work on my game and try to get them to open up, I assume they are not engaging or interested because I am failing at making them comfortable or opening up. It surprises me often how interesting those persons can still be after I get them to engage, usually if I get them too they also get more attracted, but after the date I usually tell them I missed the X factor, (because I don’t want to be someone’s therapist or coach)
/r/seduction30/03/21 04:24 PM
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You attract the opposite in qualities, characteristics and lifestyle maybe but not in emotional health and stability
/r/seduction26/03/21 01:02 PM
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Sounds good
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:01 PM
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You said it yourself, you did it for other peoples validation, so now is the time to find out who you really are, what you really enjoy and what you really want out of life and to go after that, time to live for yourself.
/r/seduction24/03/21 05:48 PM
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I think there are ways, by walking the fine line of seeming like you are not needy and not pursuing and doing just the right amount of giving value, creating interest and pulling pushing away again in a super calibrated way. The thing is though it takes a huge amount of obsessive effort and it undermines the whole idea of the abundance mindset. You are actually faking the abundance and getting deeper and deeper in the scarcity trying to change the tide with this one particular girl that you are …
/r/seduction24/03/21 05:29 PM
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I kind of like it, I also don't have sex before the 3d date every time, but there is something to say for the theory that it means she is not that much into you in the Manson, models neutral/ perceptive perspective, or that you are not escalating enough.
/r/seduction24/03/21 05:24 PM
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What is a toxic masculine man to you?
/r/seduction21/03/21 08:33 PM
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I think sometimes we have to hit rock bottom and get super frustrated for us to finally ignite a fire and start working on ourselves again. You are apparently still too comfortable right now. Maybe reading about or meditating on death can put things in perspective, just thinking out loud here, because I have the exact same tendency’s, only after a huge break up for example will I find the motivation usually to make big changes and level up again and as soon as the deep pains and hurt are gone an…
/r/seduction21/03/21 09:47 AM
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The focussing on themselves part is cool, but it seems to be coming from a place that says everything is fucked anyway, which imo is not cool.
/r/seduction19/03/21 12:08 PM
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Copying my reply to another similar post: Not escalating physically, not showing intent, being afraid to do whatever the fuck you feel like doing, to please her, being more invested into the interaction than she is. Being all pull and no push, if she knows she has you in the palm of her hand and no matter what she does what boundaries she crosses, you still won't walk away. Not having strong eye contact, not leading, You can do the opposite of these things, to not get friendzoned.
/r/seduction16/03/21 07:29 PM
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Not escalating physically, not showing intent, being afraid to do whatever the fuck you feel like doing, to please her, being more invested into the interaction than she is. Being all pull and no push, if she knows she has you in the palm of her hand and no matter what she does what boundaries she crosses, you still won't walk away. Not having strong eye contact, not leading, You can do the opposite of these things.
/r/seduction16/03/21 07:25 PM
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Probably yeah, confidence will still be a large factor though.
/r/seduction15/03/21 09:38 AM
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You are longing to get something from girls that you need to find in yourself. Things like validation, love, affection, attention
/r/seduction14/03/21 12:57 PM
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I think it doesn’t matter and you shouldn’t be worried about it, that’s my point.
/r/seduction13/03/21 05:36 PM
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I have the opposite experience, the 30+ women seem to be much more aware of what they really want and how they really are and want to be (feminine) as opposed to the 20 somethings that are much deeper conditioned by society to have some weird beliefs about toxic masculinity and things like that. I also think the 30+ women are just better at testing you for congruency and it seems like you are failing the tests and are getting frustrated by it. You shouldn't blame a woman for not trusting you, it…
/r/seduction13/03/21 05:20 PM
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Don't let it be your excuse not to take action! There will always be a next thing that you don't have in order yet. When you have money, you will have a pimple on your face and say to yourself I'll start dating next week, when the pimple is gone you will think, I will hit the gym first for 3 months, after you will think I will move to a better place first and in my new city or with my new home I will start dating. These are just ego excuses not to go out there and possibly fail or be successful …
/r/seduction13/03/21 05:07 PM
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How many people do you think have access to some amazing information, written by people that turned their lives around and are trying to give back to the community to help others get ahead, and try to flame these people because they feel bad about their own life and can't resonate with solid advice because their head is so far up their own ass that their ego is unmovable, so they try to drag everyone else down with them by ridiculing things they don't understand, because even though they have no…
/r/seduction13/03/21 05:01 PM
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Don't let what you think others think about you influence you so much.
/r/seduction13/03/21 04:56 PM
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It does provide safety and if you would put you against a guy of the same age that has to struggle to make ends meet it does sort of signal he failed at life, certainly at a certain age. I live like a stoic and I spend very little money and it does bring up problems, when I date women that love fancy restaurants and things like that, taking cabs, whatever. It's definitely not such a big deal as people make it out to be, but its a factor nonetheless. Money can buy a lot of things that can assist …
/r/seduction13/03/21 04:51 PM
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I think its morally wrong to not be honest about your intentions. So that would make seducing for sex only an issue when you are not clear about those intentions and make a woman believe something else. Now that could bring up a whole other discussion on if not saying something is the same as lying/ hiding it
/r/seduction13/03/21 04:41 PM
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This is hilarious!
/r/seduction12/03/21 06:31 PM
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Read models, from his suggestion list, regarding the vulnerability.
/r/seduction11/03/21 08:28 PM
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Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom to finally get motivated to change your life. You being here clearly struggling with it, is a good sign you are aware of everything, you are still super young, you will be fine if you want to be. Take things one step or day at a time, meditate, give yourself a break, don't be super hard on yourself if you fuck up or if you fucked up. Build some healthy habits, don't be too goal oriented so don't feel down if you are not having your dream life in 2 weeks and …
/r/seduction11/03/21 07:59 PM
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Hats off to you sir, truly a great post. Definitely checking out the recommended books that I haven't read yet.
/r/seduction11/03/21 07:33 PM
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Not totally feeling it tbh, your examples sound a bit like, " Yeah I love to watch shows on special needs children, while my Lamborghini is in the shop to get repaired, so I can't drive to all the high society parties I get invited to all the time anyway. " Like you are just trying to brag with a detour or added decoy
/r/seduction11/03/21 01:01 PM
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In my thirties, never had so much abundance.
/r/seduction11/03/21 12:56 PM
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Just my thoughts, not sure if it's true, but I escalate way too slow and I am starting to suspect that it does kill the attraction quite a bit. I think I keep just enough attraction to keep them on board, but I lose the wow and I turn into just a fun, cool guy that she has sex with, but not the guy that swept her of her feet. I mean if you are kissing, why not escalate to sex immediately? Are you not turned on by her?
/r/seduction11/03/21 12:53 PM
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Not sure if it helps in the overall sense, but I date a lot of women at the same time, this makes me (at least come across as) less needy and also less outcome dependent because I have eggs in several baskets so to say. I always tend to have one favorite girl, so I notice with the others I automatically care less and sometimes almost not at all about the outcome anymore. So again, not sure if this is just a trick or patch, bit at least for that purpose it works for me. For the long term I guess …
/r/seduction11/03/21 12:47 PM
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Could be lack of escalation that is turning her off?
/r/seduction11/03/21 12:42 PM
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Agree with this guy, you really put yourself out there and most men don't have the balls to do that. You tested the waters and you cant swim yet, it could motivate you to learn how to swim better. Who goes to the pool for the first time and is like damn I thought I would summersault and swim laps around everyone, fuck this shit swimming is not for me. Maybe you can swim a bit but the water was bad today, who knows. Try again, get better at swimming man, if you are a bad swimmer or don't win swim…
/r/seduction11/03/21 12:39 PM
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I have trouble with this too, I do believe in Mansons's theory of women being mostly neutral towards you until you game them into being reciprocative. On one hand I noticed even when they keep acting neutral By just escalating and gaming I sleep with them but some of them I never get to turn to really getting into me, its more like I am just pushing the right buttons and they really like me, but they don't fall in love with me. So I think if the purpose is just to have sex or be with women, just…
/r/seduction11/03/21 12:31 PM
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Why? What is your reasoning? I usually call shit tests out, tell the women I will pass them anyway and got a lot of "I like the confidence" responses.
/r/seduction11/03/21 12:22 PM
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I do understand, but I won't comment on my hair, because frankly it doesn't matter at all for your situation, maybe mine is worse , maybe its better than yours. I suggest to just go to a good barber and ask his opinion, when I went last time the guy made good points where he explained aesthetics, haircuts, and effects from trying to hide it to me. I followed his advice and I am not hiding it anymore and the effect is more piece of mind, I am not constantly trying to fix my comb over and I can wo…
/r/seduction11/03/21 09:54 AM
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Yes I mean self improvement, facing our fears, bettering ourselves, indeed. For sure man and it's a tough balance to find.
/r/seduction10/03/21 07:42 PM
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I am there too, closing in on being ready to date again. Flaked on some girls, because I wasn’t ready yet. I think it’s important to be ready to date again and have worked out your feelings first, otherwise it’s just dating for the distraction to run away from the bad feelings instead of accepting them and it’s a needy place to come from because you will want something from those girls
/r/seduction10/03/21 06:54 PM
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The thing is the situation doesn’t matter. I have the same feelings you have and I have done the same things and I’m not saying because it happened to me it must happen to you, but I am understanding the underlying principles and I know that the moment we guys give up our struggle and want to settle down in comfort it’s the beginning of the end. I know that she makes your day better but in the end I think you should make your day better and not get that from her. Anyway I hope I’m wrong and wish…
/r/seduction10/03/21 06:15 PM
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You need to work on yourself man, look how many projections, assumptions you make, all the bad faith, the whole story in your head that is forming and can tell you that literally everything you assumed about me is wrong.
/r/seduction10/03/21 04:25 PM
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I am frustrated? Look at how much things you are projecting on to me.
/r/seduction10/03/21 03:53 PM
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Not what you want to hear and probably not what you will listen to, but don't get overinvested so quick. Take a very good honest and deep look at yourself. Are you very needy? Do you feel so good now because of things that she is giving you that you should actually get from yourself? (validation, attention, love, whatever). I'm sure you think this girl is different, but we all fell in this trap many times and maybe you just have to go through it to find out for yourself. Just know this has happe…
/r/seduction10/03/21 03:49 PM
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You lost me at "Lucky" This mindset is just sad, but I hate that guys like you are trying to drag others down with them. Why are you looking for an excuse? If everything you think is true, what is the use of mentioning it? If you work harder you get more results if you put in more effort you get more results that's all you need to know, no need to whine or compare with others
/r/seduction10/03/21 03:41 PM
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Because the looks comments are logical thinking, she might think x is her type. That doesn't mean that if Y comes along with all the looks she doesn't like, but makes her feel attracted and seduces her she wont go along and love it. I have been with girls so many times where they start naming things/ looks wise they don't like in men and I'm there like.. uhh thats me... and when I rub it in their faces they are like no but with you its different blabla .
/r/seduction10/03/21 03:39 PM
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Yes many times, I go through stages. First one is where she is constantly on my mind, nothing else matters, I feel numb, I feel depressed, I don't care about other things, life has no meaning, other women don't interest me at all. After comes a phase where it still hurts and maybe once a day something reminds you of her and you feel very sad and think about her again and desire to be with her, but your life is continuing again, you have fun with friends, feel emotions more intensely again meet n…
/r/seduction10/03/21 03:36 PM
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You seem to have that same polarized attitude towards this, again I believe in balance, I accept people are limited in their emotions and will feel attacked often, now I can hold on to the “facts” and disregard people’s feelings, or I can accept reality and point out there is no bad intention and put someone at ease (talking general not this convo obv). I’m definitely facts over feelings, but I don’t mind some extra effort to make someone feel more comfortable, especially if that will get better…
/r/seduction08/03/21 04:10 PM
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I noticed you didn't take it personally and were only reacting to what I was saying, the content, which is not a common thing and it made me realize that my replies often get taken as personal attacks while they are not. We are probably both somewhat autistic :) I wasn't apologizing, just pointing it out, even though it was clearly unnecessary.
/r/seduction08/03/21 03:55 PM
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I hear you and I have the same nature, but I personally think, because I find this to be a personal problem in all area's in my life that balance is the key. I also tend to overinvest and get hurt and I understand and also have had the reaction to that to not invest anymore. But I truly believe a balance to be the best almost everywhere, more pain more failure more chance of rejection but also more reward more feelings more living. A balance is always harder but it might be more rewarding too. L…
/r/seduction08/03/21 02:49 PM
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Yes the theoretical logic is clear, but it also means you would have no investment in her at all, It means you are with someone that you don't care about, someone that is easily replaceable, I fully agree on not getting over invested in someone, but not invested at all and calling someone a girlfriend to me sounds psychopathic. If you are not afraid of loss something is not worth anything. The more you value something and are invested the more value and beauty it has whether that's your own char…
/r/seduction08/03/21 02:23 PM
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If your gf left you today you'd just shrug, that sounds really sad dude.
/r/seduction08/03/21 10:00 AM
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You are clearly way too deep in your victim mentality and I mean that in a hopefully uplifting way. There are 2 scenarios you don’t accept things the way they are and you stay insecure and bitter or you take responsibility try to accept it, take matters in your own hands and make the best of it. Its quite probable that a confident you without hair will do much better at everything than an insecure you with perfect hair. And even if that wouldn’t be true you are where you are now you can make the…
/r/seduction06/03/21 09:54 AM
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definitely!
/r/seduction05/03/21 08:16 PM
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I think we might fall in love when girls have characteristics that we secretly desire to have ourselves and therefore we admire them, so if my theory is correct the answer would be to find out what you like so much about these women and work on yourself and develop these characteristics so you don't need anyone else to have or experience them.
/r/seduction05/03/21 08:14 PM
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Copied what I replied to someone else it kind of applies here: Just study kino escalation, until you see its a natural progression from initial contact till sex. There is a lot of free material out there, start the date with a hug, lead her to the seats by supporting her lower back with your hand. touch her on the shoulder or leg when you are joking, poke her after a joke, keep strong eye contact when she is talking. Sit close to her, grab her hand to check out her nail polish, or grab her ear(r…
/r/seduction05/03/21 03:46 PM
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Every time a woman does something like this to me, I lose respect. I will either next her or lose interest in a possible relationship and just see her as a fuckbuddy that I am not going to get emotionally invested in. After little stunts like these, she immediately gets put in "that" category and her level of interest or engagement is clear and basically the decision at that point to me is am I going to chase her and accept this behavior like a bitch or do I stop taking her seriously. So I surel…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/21 03:40 PM
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Yes, escalate and go for the kiss
/r/seduction05/03/21 03:35 PM
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It has been an issue for me, I am doing great with women but I am scared about how long it will last, before I get bald and I will suddenly not get any women anymore, while I realize how stupid the fear is, it was still there. For years I was covering my bald spots with some sort of comb over haircut, during this lockdown and 4 months of not getting a haircut I forced myself to get more comfortable with the way I look, I also have been getting into a routine for quite sometime where I go out for…
/r/seduction05/03/21 03:29 PM
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The low high self esteem thing, is that someone that is very insecure will take a neg as a purposeful attack that hurts them right in their insecurity and a very confident person will assume the best and take it as a joke and not get hurt or upset by it because it doesn’t touch a nerve or a real problematic insecurity. Ok good luck
/r/seduction04/03/21 08:35 PM
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I said it might offend women with low self esteem and it usually works really well on women with high self esteem. I know nothing about you so don’t take it personal and it might also be people just making really dumb negs.
/r/seduction04/03/21 08:27 PM
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I think it’s primarily used and to be used on very high self esteem woman, because most people will suck up on them it will convey that you as a guy don’t put them on a pedestal and because they are high confidence it won’t hurt them but it might make them a tiny bit insecure which would make them want to validate themselves to you. I think low self esteem guys are the ones that don’t understand the dynamics and use it at the wrong moments or in a wrong way thereby really offend people. About gu…
/r/seduction04/03/21 08:20 PM
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I think a good neg, estimates the level of confidence someone has and hits them just softly enough not to really sting. It's a calibration thing. Just like playing with your friends, If I know my fat friend is very insecure about being fat, I would never make a joke about it. But if I know it bothers him a bit but he is confident about it and he knows he will fix his weight issue. I can tease him with it and it will be a fun sparring thing, that is well intentioned! We are building each others d…
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:54 AM
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I just had a conversation in another topic with a guy. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/lwkvqx/how_do_men_who_already_have_chances_progress_into/ You can check my reply's there I think they apply to you too. It's basically finding the confidence to put yourself out there, just being there and doing nothing is safe and nothing can go wrong but as you have experienced, it doesn't feel good and it also doesn't get results. If it's really hard start off with some small things, like "hey I…
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:34 AM
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I think we probably mostly agree and for most people your advice is good, it is very unattractive to women when guys keep texting for days and weeks and don't just set up a date quick. I just wanted to point out some possible reasons, why I think its not always the best scenario and that there are reasons, exceptions to the rule.
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:28 AM
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I almost disagree with everything. Looks are def very important they are your business card, your entry and yes good looking guys can get results with no game at all and a bad looking guy can have some game and still get no results. That being said your estimate of 95% is very very far off imo. Lets not forget women are totally feelings based and less attractive guys usually also have less confidence therefore they get less results, but not because they are less attractive, most women seem to ha…
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:20 AM
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I follow your logic and I think in general it may bring the best results, but I still disagree for many reasons. I have very good protocols of getting dates really fast over text, but It means I will have to do all the work on the date itself and I basically know nothing about the girl and If I will really like her and I don't want to waste my time on that live. So that's a reason I will text more and screen her, get to know her a bit better before I decide on a date. I just don't want to sit th…
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:01 AM
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I like the post, In the beginning I had this vision that everything needed to be perfect, every little fuck up would mean everything would be lost and would fail and this in turn made me so outcome dependent and took out all the fun of a man woman interaction. I didn't go for the kiss because I hadn't received 3 ioi's and I totally forgot that I was literally in a bed under the blanket with a girl, like why the fuck would she be there hugging me if she didn't want to be kissed lmao Everything ne…
/r/seduction04/03/21 10:45 AM
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Haha that's some serious dedication and planning.
/r/seduction04/03/21 10:37 AM
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Don't worry about it man, it's a game it should be fun, Just try to show some intent, putting yourself out there to fail or succeed it will feel good, because you know you stepped outside of your comfort zone and are expressing your true feelings of what you want so even if they tell you ah no thanks, you will still feel good about yourself and that will build confidence. Also because you will notice when you get denied it will almost always be in a super friendly and nice way. I struggled with …
/r/seduction04/03/21 10:21 AM
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I am assuming you are not going for a close and assuming your problem is you are afraid to show intent and keep things casual, funny like friends would do. One thing is seductive strong eye contact that will convey to her that when you ask her number you are not going to be her gay bff. Another thing you could do which will be harder, is literally show the intent. Hey I enjoyed talking with you, I like your vibe give me your number and well have a drink and see if we are a good match. . At least…
/r/seduction03/03/21 08:16 PM
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Try not to be so hard on yourself man (pun intended).
/r/seduction03/03/21 08:07 PM
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It's a factor just like so many other things, can you get the hottest girl without being well dressed? yes. Is your overall presentation better if you are well dressed? Yes. Guess it comes down to each individual woman and how important it is to them.
/r/seduction03/03/21 08:04 PM
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Personally I think you can get lucky with a girl that chose you, but you can do almost everything wrong because she already chose you. When we are talking seduction though, all high quality high status women I have been with, have told me that when someone is nervous around them they lose attraction really fast.
/r/seduction03/03/21 08:01 PM
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Stop dating and process everything first, feel the emotions let them be, experience the feelings and over time let them drift away, don’t push them away don’t find too much distractions just not to feel. In order to feel things again eventually, you need to allow your feelings.
/r/seduction01/03/21 09:48 PM
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Just like in every field, the harder you work and the more effort you put in the more/ better results you’ll get ✊🏼
/r/seduction28/02/21 11:02 PM
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Just study kino escalation, until you see its a natural progression from initial contact till sex. There is a lot of free material out there, start the date with a hug, lead her to the seats by supporting her lower back with your hand. touch her on the shoulder or leg when you are joking, poke her after a joke, keep strong eye contact when she is talking. Sit close to her, grab her hand to check out her nail polish, or grab her ear(ring) to check it out, get comfortable with touching, hug her, r…
/r/seduction28/02/21 10:41 PM
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Practise with your guy friends, start hugging them.
/r/seduction28/02/21 10:16 PM
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Get that out of your head man, you can have sex with women without ever mentioning anything even related to sex.
/r/seduction28/02/21 10:15 PM
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With myself the fear of failure is bigger than the actual failure. Which goes for a lot of my fears, where the fear of the fear is actually much worse than the actual thing. So maybe in that context it would help to actually experience the rejections the failures to realize that its not that big of a monster and maybe that would make it possible to let go of the fear at least a bit. So maybe the whole fortress doesn't have to be destroyed, I guess it depends on if the fundaments are already stro…
/r/seduction27/02/21 03:17 PM
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I didn't say things will be fine, I said You will be fine. If you have that truly internalized it means you can do anything you want without fears.
/r/seduction27/02/21 03:11 PM
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I think its the difference between short term and over all happiness. A sugary snack can also make me feel extremely good but I wouldn't say it makes me happy over all. Getting results with women when coming from nothing is amazing and definitely part of a good life, but when it settles in and you get used to more of an abundance, the wow factor will start to die off a bit and the grass will be greener regarding other points and you will probably get back to that needing to find happiness from w…
/r/seduction27/02/21 02:54 PM
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Well the first is exactly what someone wrote as the definition of "confidence" knowing you will be fine even if you don't get the outcome you want. So that's pretty Alpha to me.
/r/seduction27/02/21 02:50 PM
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Is it stupid though? Or are we/ you judging someone that is trying to improve himself and make his life better and are we scared to see other people succeed while we don't or envious of their courage to put themselves out there and look stupid in order to get ahead and improve and therefore ridicule them for trying to keep them back with us with the heard in the safety of the familiar comfort zone and roles.
/r/seduction27/02/21 02:47 PM
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Watched the video and that part of feeling a wall between me and the girl being my ego protecting me from showing intent really resonated with me and made me realize things. I often find myself super anxious and unable to show intent until the girls show intent and when I know they are into me only than can I start to show intent and even though this works for me and gets me great results in the end, I still feel the powerlessness in this and I want to reclaim my power and more so determine my o…
/r/seduction24/02/21 12:10 PM
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So you are basically saying, you are brilliant?
/r/seduction24/02/21 12:03 PM
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What are you talking about, go read his post.
/r/seduction24/02/21 12:01 PM
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I like the post, but I still like to challenge it a bit, thinking out loud. While I agree with the she is just a girl, there are a million more mindset and it will definitely bring you the best results in terms of conquering women and making them want you. That being said, I'll take my own situation for example, while after 3-4 years of dating many girls and being "successful" with women, I recently decided to allow more feelings towards a particular woman and I think I fell in love. It makes me…
/r/seduction24/02/21 11:00 AM
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You sound very bitter bro
/r/seduction24/02/21 10:26 AM
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