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They're cats, not Russian sleeper agents.
/r/seduction01/05/15 07:43 AM
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I meant, you have obviously been to Vegas, but everyone else has not. I don't know how I wrote that backwards.
/r/seduction25/06/14 04:39 PM
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ITT everyone in this thread but you has actually been to Vegas.
/r/seduction25/06/14 07:13 AM
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It's kind of like Neil Strauss and how he met Lisa, in the sense that to the naked eye, it's like you never needed it, but without it, there was no way you could have met her. That said, I'm actually really happy how this turned out. It's a nice story, and you write exceedingly well - take it from one writer to another.
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:23 AM
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Here's the details you're missing; Indirect game works, simply because you're removing the determined point in which you guys met, so before she knows it, she's in an interaction with you talking about life, and when she thinks "How did I meet this guy?" she can't pin point it. This works, because it's a natural transition into rapport without strict concerns, whether or not this is a gimmick, or that maybe you're a strange person. So, by going in and throwing those mental health assessment ques…
/r/seduction08/04/14 04:50 PM
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I'd be willing to pay to test that theory.
/r/seduction06/04/14 10:30 PM
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I'm no biologist, but what animal chases a lion?
/r/seduction06/04/14 10:16 PM
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Not even that. Most of the "evidence" most guys use to talk about how and why women don't know what they want is them either asking something super broad, or something specific, often relating to personal tastes. If you ask questions that engage their modes of thinking, the one that men can't use, they will often give you a really interesting and/or insightful answer.
/r/seduction14/01/14 02:21 PM
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Here's something most guys don't know, and you're all gonna hate me for saying this, but a female opinion on dating is FINE, if you ask the right questions. The sweeping assumptions that you, and the rest of the community has taken on board, about the clarity of your wants is as true for women as it is for men.
/r/seduction14/01/14 12:45 PM
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Here's the thing about PUA hating websites, they're built on foundations of bullshit and negativity. The story of PUA hate.com is a sad irony for another time. But here's one thing you might want to consider: When I was doing some research on a prominent person in the community, I came accross the PUA hate materials, about a female coach. HOLY SHIT, talk about masked insecurities "Yeah, she's got a good face and body, but her lips are too big. I don't like girls with big lips" One of the posts a…
/r/seduction14/01/14 12:43 PM
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You're not cocky funny if you're being mean. It might just be a sign that you're actually a little miscalibrated if you're hurting someones feelings when trying to be "FUNNY". Give some more details if you want a better catered reply.
/r/seduction07/01/14 01:55 PM
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That's just some weird college shit probably? I never lived the American wtf college life, so I wouldn't have a clue.
/r/seduction07/01/14 12:30 AM
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I honestly don't think there is a stigma, your analogy is likely a product of something else. I've been with someone over twice my age, people several years older, and it all comes from holding my shit down, and not letting age factor in. It could also be that she just thinks you're immature? I just don't think there is a stigma against age.
/r/seduction06/01/14 10:26 AM
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Can you rephrase that into one simple question?
/r/seduction06/01/14 12:37 AM
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Coffee is safe (which is okay) but it is most definitely not creative. Just keep in mind that you don't want to do what EVERY other dude has done - likely your first instinct.
/r/seduction05/01/14 01:53 PM
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Dinner... Wow... Just as a side note, I never do the dinner, because it can get weird, and there's no room to change, only escape. That said, it also leads to food coma, and it causes a lot of stress ( what do I wear, what do I order, is he paying? Am I paying? Etc), and food isn't necessarily fun... She's a model :P . And dancing after food... I mean, counter intuative much? If I were you, I'd just stick to your current plan for congruency, but do something with her BEFORE the show, like have b…
/r/seduction05/01/14 05:47 AM
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Go do a pottery lesson, or nude drawing lesson - it'll be like switching the model role on her. Most people don't realise you can create these mini-adventure dates that are very inexpensive. Glow in the dark golf driving, outfit role playing, meal swapping, fake tour guiding, are just a few I can come up with right now. They work because they've never done those things before, and they allow you to do something fun WHILE staying social. If you sit facing a movie for 2 hours, you aren't getting s…
/r/seduction05/01/14 03:46 AM
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Suggestion: meet up with her. Talk is cheap. As far as what you want, there is nothing wrong with being friends that fuck. If you can escalate it right, qualify and communicate, it'll happen. If she doesn't want to sleep with you, settle for friends or cut her out of your life. Easiest way is to go so some kind of creative activity that makes you seem way the fuck cooler than anyone ever, whether it's a "date" or not. The whole idea is that you show you're awesome, and that the value of her life…
/r/seduction05/01/14 02:29 AM
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What is an age shit test? Please tell me because I see all this rubbish about "IF SHE ASKS FOR YOUR AGE IT'S A SHIT TEST" no it's not... There's a film called "he's just not that into you", and the take away most people missed is "analogy does not make you the rule" which is exactly what you're doing. Assuming your analogy is more than it actually is - a story.
/r/seduction04/01/14 11:19 PM
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If you expect it to get awkward, it's gonna be awkward. First and foremost, a single mother's most important THING in life is that child. I've had many a conversation on the topic with them, and that takes precedence. If you show that you are not only good with kids but mindful of the kid's wellebeing and entertainment, she will probably fall in love with you a little. You should never try to "replace" the father , but it doesn't mean you can't be better than him. Have a fun time, engage both of…
/r/seduction04/01/14 11:12 PM
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I'm real happy you got a Levi model's number, but 2 things; Paragraphs would REALLY help! They make reading large blocks of information easier. What you wrote is a mess. Not to take away from your number close, but just know, as Mystery once said, "numbers are wood". You need to follow up, and not just leave some floating "maybes". It's all about investment - that connection.
/r/seduction04/01/14 02:45 PM
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I wasn't aware /r/seduction was an advertising platform!
/r/seduction04/01/14 02:38 PM
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I feel like this is a case of "my guide to my experience". Sure 3 for 3 is great, but the broadness without proper reasoning of this guide doesn't speak to the part of me that makes this click. By that i mean there's likely an X factor (probably you, your FB friends, or the people you know, or a combination of the three) that has contributed to your successes.
/r/seduction27/12/13 11:30 AM
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How many more links are you planning on dumping dude?
/r/seduction27/12/13 10:27 AM
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I don't think your buddie's issue has got anything to do with alpha, but are rather insecurities about himself. If he feels like he is not living up to his masculine qualiies and has to compensate by being a total dick, you should talk to him. Find out what's making him feel his need to assert his manliness in between your shit, because it's likely something that is making him feel inadequet, and if unaddressed, could become worse.
/r/seduction27/12/13 10:25 AM
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IOIs don't matter at this point. Stop caring. You are WAY beyond whether IOIs matter. If you establish yourself as the guy who just hangs out and chats, that's what you're ruining. If you're the guy who has amazing sex with women he enriches the lives of, there's nothing to ruin there. Stop holding yourself back with silly phallic logic.
/r/seduction27/12/13 10:22 AM
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Too true. Just to add, a friend of mine removed it for different reasons and had a huge boost in quality of life because he wasted significantly less time on FB. If your reasons (to OP) are shallow, work on that, don't just sweep it under the rug.
/r/seduction27/12/13 10:13 AM
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It doesn't matter. If it's habitual, it means you can return in kind casually, and if it's an ioi, then do something. So either way you should be kinoing back. You should be escalating at the absense of a negative response. If she responds postively, or not at all, keep going. If she gives a negative response, roll back and go up again.
/r/seduction27/12/13 10:10 AM
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It's not a shit test, it's just a question. I get asked all the time "Where are you from?" Because of my accent. Never was it once a shit test. Never once was it "wrong answer, bye!"
/r/seduction27/12/13 07:48 AM
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Yes, but don't shit where you eat.
/r/seduction25/12/13 01:43 AM
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Every answer here is a whole lot of rubbish. You transition. If you're asking where the coffee shop is, and she tells you, change the topic, and have a conversation. A "wow you seem really nice, where are you from?" Will work fine. From there you can always invite her to join you for that coffee with her directions.
/r/seduction24/12/13 10:26 PM
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Yeah, don't listen to me, judge women instead!
/r/seduction24/12/13 09:22 AM
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Contrary to most of seddit's belief, RSD isn't for everyone. There are some great ideas and concepts they perpetuate, but there are also the finer lines, and techniques that would be nothing but contrived for certain people to take with them. So with all things that you've read, there's often a broader idea behind it, and that is what you should be utlising in order to learn new things, WHILST retaining a version of yourself you're still happy with.
/r/seduction23/12/13 10:32 PM
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I think many women try to tough things out to get a guy and loose part of what makes them feminine. Can we try not to judge women while you're advertising yourself as a dating prospect?
/r/seduction23/12/13 10:19 PM
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Yes, it builds rapport on a different level than conversation. We like what is similar/familar with ourselves, hence "We have so much in common" is a positive notion.
/r/seduction23/12/13 10:18 PM
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It sounds like you know where your interests and passions lie, but you' e made some strange associations with what they are. The reason I think this has haplened is just a lack of a balance. You gamed too much, then You focused on self improvement so much, you left behind your academia, the. The switch left behind your self improvement and health. Not everyone needs one, but youcan certainly benefit from a routine and day to day balanced lifestyle. Gaming isn't the death of seduction, nor is stu…
/r/seduction20/12/13 02:41 PM
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Okay, no absolutes, but my theory is; it sounds predatory. If they feel like that the intention is veiled, and subsequently do not feel safe, they're probably gonna let it die. Especially considering you had been flirting the whole time. It's actually a lot easier to sell an activity, and then invite them to do said activity... Ie. "There's this awesome market that sells some amazing trinkets that have a really neat retro feel, it's right up your alley!" And if they agree, you invite them to go …
/r/seduction20/12/13 12:23 PM
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No, literally, what are you saying? Quote yourself when you ask them out. Give a couple of examples if possible. This could be the reason, or it could be the way you are navigating the conversation. Also how long are you waiting in terms of amount of texts and time?
/r/seduction20/12/13 11:33 AM
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Looks are a subjective thing, and the great thing about being male, is that the spectrum of what is "attractive" is so wide. Granted, if you're the elephant man, sure, you have a physical appearance challenge, but otherwise it's more your effort and/or character than it is your actual image. If you are well dressed, clean, and ambitious, that is attractive. Being a male model is in no way a certainty that women will be attracted to you.
/r/seduction20/12/13 11:16 AM
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What are you saying?
/r/seduction20/12/13 11:11 AM
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You're over analysing things, she probably is not sexually interested in you, and you should really learn to carry a conversation.
/r/seduction20/12/13 09:08 AM
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Here is my guess why it's so complicated in your head. You see this as a process of either A or B, "we're platonic" or "we're seeing each other". It doesn't have to be not like that at all. There are all those modes and shades of grey in between. A "There's this neat bar on XYZ, that has an awesome selection of beers, you're welcome along." Is all it takes. Low pressure, and casual. Regardless of her answer, you go anyway. If she's busy, cool, go meet single women at a cool bar. If she comes, se…
/r/seduction18/12/13 03:58 AM
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Neither. None of this "here's my fallic logic that only applies to me", to say "I give it because it's a gauge of interest" is equivalent of saying "I'm going to jerk off til a girl hops on the opposite end." As per asking, I'm sure someone would oblige the "that's not alpha arguement." The easiest method in my experience, is to hand her your phone with the dial pad out. You don't even have to say a word. After that, you call her and tell her to see if she's got it. She shows it, and you put in …
/r/seduction18/12/13 03:50 AM
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That initial statement is a rather subjective one, but for the most part true. Though, keep in mind the reason you might have never heard it before is simply because they don't like you THAT much. It's one thing to spend time with someone, it's another to have them invest in you and want to spend more time where possible.
/r/seduction18/12/13 01:27 AM
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The easy answer is "where introverts are". If you were an introvert wherr would you go to spend time? That said, you've pretty much said "no" to everything. If your logistical situation means you cannot go to any of the places known to have introverts, guess what. You're probably not going to meet any.
/r/seduction18/12/13 01:23 AM
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No, not really. Oneitis is about being fixated. Choosing does not mean fixation. This doesn't mean you can't be fixated after you choose though.
/r/seduction18/12/13 01:15 AM
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Objectification, associations with people as obstacles and objects, an inability to connect and build genuine rapport - what I was getting at.
/r/seduction17/12/13 03:50 AM
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What it actually sounds like is an entitlement issue, mixed with a need to be correct. When I say correct, I mean, you NEED to be the the shiznit, and if you're not, BLAM! they're out. It's unhealthy to treat women as if they were just assets that are MEANT to like you because you think so. Regardless of the benefits other people state, it's a dangerous way to go about living life.
/r/seduction16/12/13 09:27 PM
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Kino, and talk about topics of conversation "friends" don't talk about.
/r/seduction16/12/13 01:23 AM
2

Be sure that your topics of conversation aren't too heavy. If you're talking about Obama care, and it hasn't been long enough to remember her eye colour, then you've gone too far too fast. Escalate physically. Touch her. Read up, I wrote something about the way you escalate, that is how you should always do things. Create tension. Stop. Look her in the eye. Nod. Stop. Tension.
/r/seduction13/12/13 02:47 PM
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"Hey, sorry I didn't know what to say, I don't normally do this but you're just really really cute. I'm giraffelogic by the way."
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:26 AM
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After they "aww"d, was your window to go and talk to her/them by the way. Just so you know in future.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:22 AM
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Swapping contact details>receiving contact details>giving contact details> masterbation.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:21 AM
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First off, if you live a busy, fulfilling life, that probably will never happen. The ultimate inner game isn't subtlty and kino, it isn't RSD video marathons, or money, it's a really enviable, rewarding life that fulfills you and those around you. When you become a product of what everyone else wants, you are irresistable when someone enters it. Also if someone rejects you it's like "okay... I don't want people who hate cool shit anyway." Secondly, I would just make contact with professors, beca…
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:14 AM
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Pros: o You get more women in your life o You are developing a more social life o More friends o it takes less energy than deliberately going to pick up o It makes it easier when you're see someone you like in a social setting o It teaches you to be fearless o A fucktonne more Cons: o Your contacts list can get messy :( o People will judge you (because they can't do it) o some tasks take way longer than normal.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:08 AM
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Not going "I'M ALPHA, I DON'T DRINK THAT PISSY BUD LIGHT SHIT LIKE YOU!!! UHHHGGG!!!" Dude, I'm Australian. dude walks away -actual interaction. It means being wrong, doing things for yourself and character, and not trying to be a perfect projection of machoistic male. If you like video games, keep playing them, if you like knitting, keep knitting, if you enjoy circuses, keep watching monkeys backflip.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:05 AM
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Nothing, but with a possibility of Sex - depends on the human. If you like her company, keep doing shit.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:01 AM
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Literally, the opposite of EVERYTHING you just said. You are a backwards thinking man. There were racist bigots in the 1950's who asked for girls numbers in shorter times than 5 minutes. You're a 21st century man. You can do better.
/r/seduction12/12/13 08:00 AM
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So you haven't kissed her? If not, you're not, you're meant to do this not pretend to. If so, yeah, kissing them is usually a good start before fucking them.
/r/seduction12/12/13 07:58 AM
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It means they have begun to like you, and you were too ambiguous, and now you're getting upset because you didn't clear up the intention. Or you could just say "I like that you've got a really fun energy about you, and I'd love to see what else you have" or something.
/r/seduction12/12/13 07:56 AM
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Can you give some examples and/or topics of conversations you are having?
/r/seduction12/12/13 07:54 AM
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Honestly, if your game is solid, barely any girls you meet will have boyfriends, because... They're with their boyfriends. Every other girl is not in a relationship, in transition out of one, or just wanting to get the fuck out but without prospect.
/r/seduction12/12/13 07:53 AM
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A negative response is not necessarily rejection. If you're escalating and being rejected, you probably did it wrong.
/r/seduction11/12/13 06:51 PM
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Social improvement comes from a few things. One of which is socialising, put yourself in new and different situations, hone you skills and practice. It also comes from alterior things like, living life to the fullest, taking on adventures and doing what fulfils you.
/r/seduction11/12/13 06:49 PM
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Nope, a compliment does not mean you give one back. If I buy you lunch, your immediate response isn't to buy me lunch again. I never said it needed to be fast, but if you cannot do it, you need to learn. There is no point asking how to respond if you won't learn the rest. It would be like asking an F1 racer "I want to be a F1 racer one day, so what's the best way of turning on the car?"
/r/seduction10/12/13 09:49 PM
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Kino: !? Literally. Anytime you say anythin that has a question or exclamation mark, you can kino. Kino should be deliberate, and constantly escalating if in the absense of a negatve response. The only time you stop or go back is when she shows some kind of dislike. In the case of positive or none, keep escalating. "Alpha behaviour" is such a rubbish thing. I have never met an actual Alpha who has used that word to describe themselves in anyway (including multiple world class PUAs). They do howe…
/r/seduction10/12/13 09:32 PM
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"Thank you. I'm "name", who are you?" Firstly, When someone pays you a compliment take it. The only high value response is "thank you". Secondly, she is doing this because she is physically attracted to you. Meaning you need to turn her on, and build a connection, then You're good. This is a good thing if it is happening to you.
/r/seduction10/12/13 09:26 PM
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Then you haven't talked to women before. (Ala 50 shades of grey)
/r/seduction10/12/13 07:07 PM
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That's a really good attitude to have.
/r/seduction10/12/13 07:05 PM
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Adam Lyons, and Richard La Ruina. It's easy to tell because they always have women around them. If they don't have women they are touching, kissing, sleeping with, they are probably not the real deal.
/r/seduction10/12/13 07:03 PM
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Or... You could stop spreading harmful bs.
/r/seduction10/12/13 07:00 PM
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Maybe you should learn your verbals before you focus on your non- verbals. You talk about this non-verbal stuff all the time, but you have henously poor skills at verbalising your message. I'm calling shenaningans. Do you even leave the house more than twice a year to meet women, or are you just spewing shit you read on the internet a few months ago?
/r/seduction10/12/13 05:50 PM
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I don't think this is the post you should be listening to. Just my opinion.
/r/seduction10/12/13 05:48 PM
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So why not say that? If you asked someone you wanted to learn from "where do I start?" And he said "fuck off, figure that out then come back" you'd be pretty upset.
/r/seduction10/12/13 05:47 PM
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So you're asking about transitions. Your opener is just that. It is the thing that opens. You move off it IMMEDIATELY. You then transition into conversation, an easy one is; "wow, you seem really friendly, you'r not from around here are you?" If someone waves their dick saying "THAT'S NOT ALPHA ENOUGH!" They clearly never tried day game. Anyhow, there are many transitions, and once you transition, you can go into a regular, personal conversation.
/r/seduction10/12/13 05:08 PM
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So, you want everyone to be you?
/r/seduction10/12/13 05:02 PM
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I want to clarify something before someone gives you a bullshit answer, or useless response like "just read the sidebar.", the game is dated. There are things in there that are lessons for life, and universally true, but the finite methods and techniques, are for the most part, less relevant, or entirely irrelevant today. So "style" isn't so much people have... Unless you're ultra old school. Being a totally cool guy, that has a great life, and understands the sociological intricacies of convers…
/r/seduction10/12/13 05:01 PM
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Why not talk about past sexual experiences? They get people fucking horny if you know how to tell a good story.
/r/seduction10/12/13 04:54 PM
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Your advice is equal to the shittiness of "Just be taller"
/r/seduction10/12/13 04:52 PM
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"Hey what did you do today?" "WHY WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE PAST?!"
/r/seduction10/12/13 04:51 PM
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Take it as a compliment. I have no idea what this has to do with /r/seduction, but it's rather nice that they think you're significantly more pimptastic than you actually are. The reasoning probably comes from the way you carry yourself.
/r/seduction10/12/13 04:50 PM
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This all derives from life experience. Often the best way to get better social skills, is to practice. But if you have nothing to practice with, you're going to learn nothing. That said, someone who has lived on a yatch for years, and been to 45+ countries is likely to know a lot, and be able to share that with others in conversation, easily. As per confidence, similar thing. You CAN "fake it til you make it" but there will come a time where someone doubts you, and that crack may get to you, and…
/r/seduction10/12/13 04:48 PM
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That's not "Being introverted". Firstly, you probably don't have enough interest from that person for them to want to willingly go out with you that way. That is the first thing that needs to be done, make them totally into hanging with you. The next thing you want to do is establish logistics, such as "What's your schedule look like" Or "How does XYZ hour , on ABC day sound?" And finally, you need to actually get to know them and find an activity you'd like, that you think she would like too. I…
/r/seduction08/12/13 12:33 AM
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Example?
/r/seduction07/12/13 09:09 AM
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Literally, whatever you like to do for fun, that you think she will enjoy doing as well. Try to shy away from things she's done a BILLION times before, like dinner and/or a movie. If it allows you to socialise, it's ideal, because you can get to know one another, while doing something. Examples: Classes (cooking, dance, pottery, art), Hikes, games, flea markets, etc... If you're creative you can even create your own dates,
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:24 PM
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You're assuming that because you're being less subtle than normal, that she's totally in on it. That's a shit excuse to have not isolated (I'll explain why in a moment) You should treat everyone well, regardless of whether they caught your attention or not. The only difference ought to be sexual intent. SO... Yes, Kino is good, but all that does when it's light is create comfort, both in general, and when trying to do other things. Beyond that, Kino is EASILY contextualised, so if you're JUST do…
/r/seduction06/12/13 09:25 AM
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No, and depends on the girl - but usually no. I'm pretty sure you have sticking points beyond reading emoticons. Why don't you ask about those?
/r/seduction06/12/13 09:16 AM
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No worries pal. I look forward to what you've got to say.
/r/seduction29/11/13 09:09 AM
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Please don't listen to that ultra ambiguous BS "advice" that gives you no real direction, or perspective. Here's the skinny; o Your looks don't matter. They do and they don't. They do, in the sense that, if you are hygienic, dressed well, and in some sort of healthy looking shape, you are fine. They don't, in that, if you are a sack of shit... surprise! So if you can't say "yes" to all three, create a hygiene routine, redo your entire wardrobe with clothes that fit, and start doing exercise. o D…
/r/seduction29/11/13 08:16 AM
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PM me and I'll cut your study time in half with an awesome structure.
/r/seduction29/11/13 08:08 AM
1

Thanks!
/r/seduction28/11/13 09:03 PM
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No I don't actually. "I like to stand still while running." is what I'm reading.
/r/seduction27/11/13 09:22 PM
1

You have a non-verbal sexual conversation. What?
/r/seduction27/11/13 09:04 AM
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People>Relationships>Sex. "Do you ever find yourself people watching? Kind of like that couple over there, you can tell they're a couple, but they look like they're in the honeymoon phase, where everything is perfect, and the sex is "new". What do you think makes sex better over time, instead of stale?" etc etc etc.
/r/seduction27/11/13 09:03 AM
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Don't worry about displaying interest, escalating while dancing is similar as you would do it normally. Off the top of my head; Kino, eye contact, and leading are very doable.
/r/seduction26/11/13 06:56 AM
1

That seems doable, but a pointless exercise of feeding your unhealthy, conquer mentality.
/r/seduction26/11/13 05:23 AM
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You're not a dancing monkey, you're just someone who is good at dancing, but not dance game. I bet when you dance with girls, it's the same sort of dancing, just... closer and more in sync with whoever you're "dancing with", right? "Dance game" is more or less dancing with intent, and escalation, in a complete non-verbal way. Bring them in, touch them, look them in the eye, etc.
/r/seduction26/11/13 05:03 AM
1

I honestly think you're on track, but it seems almost to cheesy for them to want to stay in the interaction.
/r/seduction26/11/13 04:56 AM
1

If this happened, and this has happened, I would just put the other person in their place. Recently I was in the process of finding commonalities with a SUPER cute waitress, and my friend just rams his phone in her face. The problem is, now he has a pointless number, and it's pointless giving her number out a second time. So the result is no one gets anything. If your friend is so desperate that he NEEDS to go after the same girl, he's not really your friend, he's just a selfish cunt (excuse my …
/r/seduction26/11/13 04:50 AM
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You can get the number silently. You say something to the effect of "Hey, I'd love to continue this sometime, what's the best way of staying in contact?" and then you hand her your phone with the dialpad opened. That shit is instinctual, at a primal level at this point in time. But the easiest way is to have a conversation about what's fun, either ask her what she likes, or talk about stuff you like to do and see how she responds. Tell her you're going to go do that thing, and you'll invite her …
/r/seduction26/11/13 04:48 AM
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As pointed below that this is a great start *above
/r/seduction26/11/13 04:41 AM
1

I have grabbed coffee with people I've recently met in class. Maybe you've just not given them a good enough reason early enough. If you give them a good enough reason, or enter a compelling enough conversation, they will happily follow you to a near by place that serves coffee.
/r/seduction26/11/13 04:41 AM
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The book you're reading sounds like absolute horse shit. From the many things I've been taught (which also includes direct), and the things I've tried that have worked, transitioning off the opener should be done fast, in general. Staying on it is pointless and tedious. An opener I used was simply asking where the nearest starbucks was, talking to them for a while, walking them to the starbucks, and getting starbucks together. Alternatively, a friend of mine bought a book that is a fun "fill in …
/r/seduction26/11/13 02:28 AM
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The thing is, most people who think day game is disingenuous or weak are just doing it wrong. It's about being situational, and entering a conversation in such a way that the interaction's beginning is lost seconds in. Most people see game as "Step 1. Step 2. Step3..." which is why the process is interpretted as less iterative than it is, and inner game can seem a little foreign. Direct has it's benefits, and it's a sort of all guns blazing approach, but from my experience means you receive a mu…
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:50 AM
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Transition. People>Relationships>sex If you see a window, move the conversation into a sexual direction as soon as it presents itself. Recently, I was asked about what I thought about women's underwear. It's about feeling comfortable with your sexuality, and having the confidence to talk about it, while knowing where your experiences and knowledge stands.
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:36 AM
1

Here is the easiest, and shortest lesson about being a wing: Talk them up. At any opportunity that presents something, feed the conversation with something interesting for them to talk about or say something nice about them. Don't put them down, or shoot down compliments. "Oh, he's such a dickhead" Cool. You hang out with dick heads. "He's the best, such a cool guy that knows how to have a great time!" Sounds like someone you'd want to go on a date with huh?
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:34 AM
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Everyone is super friendly at concerts because they're usually high, drunk, or both. Even if they're not, you're all there for the same love of music. It usually is a time where the atmosphere is incredible, so saying "HEY" is way more useful than it usually is.
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:31 AM
1

Qualification. Find out what drives people to do what they do, and set them to your human standards.
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:30 AM
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I used to think this was a good idea, but 1. if you don't have a sister, you've just set the precedent that you're a liar, 2. It's a lie, and disingenuous, 3. There are 1000000000 other things you can say in the moment that would get you in a conversation that don't involve lying. "That colour really suits you." "Hey, I could use a female opinion" "I have to stop you because you have an awesome style." What is your question about number closing?
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:29 AM
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Honestly, this is not a question that is going to help you get better. I can give you all my words, and make you memorise it, beat for beat, but you can still fuck up because you are not me. Find what works for you, and practice. This question is the equivalent of asking "How did you go from your living room, to turning on your car?"
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:26 AM
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If you have a conversation with them, find something they like doing that you also like doing. Go make plans to do that, and invite the one who said she liked doing that. If she says "yes" you get to casually hang out doing a thing you both like. If she says "no" you get to go do something you like doing anyway, and you can still ask the other to whatever the other activity is that you both like. Dilema solved?
/r/seduction25/11/13 06:23 AM
1

Go indirect, a situational opener is ideal, be polite and have a conversation.
/r/seduction24/11/13 04:23 AM
1

Is there a question there?
/r/seduction24/11/13 04:21 AM
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I was hoping you would walk me through the interaction. If you give me more details I might be able to help
/r/seduction23/11/13 06:28 PM
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Having female friends is one of the EASIEST ways to improve your social value with men. Social value is based on so many factors. Living a fulfilling, challenging, enviable, successful life, is probably the best way to increase social value.
/r/seduction23/11/13 05:34 PM
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She said no, so why are you hung up on her staring at you? This makes no sense. Ignore her and move on or speak to her again.
/r/seduction23/11/13 05:32 PM
1

How does the interaction look like when you do it?
/r/seduction23/11/13 05:30 PM
1

What's wrong with not spending money? Walk in a park, coffee at the caferia, video games at a dorm, attend a party, window shop, make up some other free games (like spoilt little princess, or my custom boquette). But if money is so tight that you aren't able to break ranks for a few dollars, get your priorities straight, don't worry about pick up until the financial situation is sorted.
/r/seduction23/11/13 09:24 AM
2

You ought to be more specific. I know 3 different 5 question games.
/r/seduction23/11/13 09:23 AM
2

Going to a bar was never a core tenant of game, it's just a very convenient place to practice. It is more or less the same when you distill it down. Assume attraction, lead interactions, Qualify, build rapport, escalate sexually, kino, be social. NONE of these are exclusive outside of high school. You can always apply these, you just need to know how they apply, and practice. You can still cold approach on the street, in other venues and parties.
/r/seduction23/11/13 09:22 AM
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Don't shit where you eat. The only reason you're buying into this is because you see her so often, and you have no other prospects going on in your life. If this goes south, you are screwing things up for yourself, ala reputation, sexual harrassment, loss of employment, etc.
/r/seduction23/11/13 09:20 AM
1

I've seen plenty of people ask "did I blow my chances" when clearly they didn't. Whilst the majority have probably, this is still a rather cynical, and inaccurate statement.
/r/seduction23/11/13 09:19 AM
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The best way is to use a situational opener, enter a conversation, find out what she likes to do, find something that is also something you like to do, make plans of your own to go do that, and invite her along. But you're not going to do all that, because a large part of that process is foreign to you. Keep it simple, and talk to her.
/r/seduction23/11/13 09:17 AM
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A lot of it. There is so much to take away, and interpret from the stuff here. You can lead, you can escalate, and you can close on her. You can also create new experiences, build MORE rapport, break more of it too, and explore deeper and more powerful connections. You an also become very social, opening doors to new and wonderful adventures, parties, and connections. You don't have to "Game" your girlfriend, but you can certainly always take what is at the core of this, and do better.
/r/seduction22/11/13 11:30 PM
1

Matthew Hussey has also written recently about dating for women. There is also Adam Gilad who explains his own theories and ideas as to how men and women try to attract one another. In short, women, like men are told, should have their convictions, their values, and should use them to qualify, find the guys who are most fitting for themselves. From there it's about becoming desirable to the point that he couldn't imagine himself with anyone else.
/r/seduction21/11/13 12:36 PM
1

You should read a book called "Yes man". You're unsure if you're asking for advice, despite self-diagnosing your problem, which by the way, is not a small problem. Being afraid of success is as damning, if not worse than a fear of failure. A large part may be because you are in fact judging people unfairly. When you say: ...how to show a woman how much I have to offer. You have nothing to offer if you cannot get passed communicating at a basic level.
/r/seduction21/11/13 12:29 PM
1

I remember Matthew Hussey speaking about entrepreneurship and a simple rule came up "If you want more stuff... Do more stuff". In the same way we find women who dream of fame through acting, despite never having acted before, delusional, asking "How do I meet guys?" is easily answered by... "Meet guys." Society likes to think that guys are meant to make the first move, but it doesn't mean we're any good at it. That said, knowing how to act friendly and seem friendly, while talking to strangers i…
/r/seduction19/11/13 07:17 AM
1

You know why you can't remember the last time you improved your game? Because you haven't tried. Honestly, when was the last time you put a steam grinding effort into learning, trying, pushing, taking something brand new, or different? When was the last time you decided to work a room, befriend the guy, be an AMOG, get a kiss close in less than 60 seconds, do something crazy? People get comfortable, get in patterns, then blame everything but themselves. Strive not just to be a better you, but a …
/r/seduction13/11/13 09:32 AM
1

If approaching is a problem and you use alcohol, you're just making a shitty thing worse. You should be aspiring to improve yourself and not ways to cheat the process. If you know attractive girls get taken up fast, then get in their fucking fast. If you can do something with alcohol, you sure as hell can do it sober.
/r/seduction12/11/13 02:31 AM
1

Who are "they"? You need to fill in the blanks, we are not you, we are not in your position, so don't be so broad. That said, you've already answered your own question. Make the first move.
/r/seduction12/11/13 02:23 AM
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That's really subjective, and depends on who you are. I like to think I'm an honest person to everyone I meet, so I don't feel like I need to really do anything to get into state. But really, being social is a muscle of the sorts. If you kind of just massage it constantly, it won't grow, it'll just feel alright. But when you push it, and move out of your comfort zone, you'll train it and make it able to go to new heights.
/r/seduction11/11/13 05:27 AM
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An easy way to find out is get a piece of paper, draw a line down the middle, write "Needs" and "Wants" fill the list with as much as you want, and can. This can be as superficial as "Brunette" to as specific as "Must be adventurous and open with sexuality, and okay with anal sex on the occasion."
/r/seduction11/11/13 05:23 AM
1

It's all about qualification. It's about setting your standards, the ones you NEED and the ones you want, and then applying them to the people you meet.
/r/seduction11/11/13 05:20 AM
3

Try putting something at stake. Give your friend $50, and say "Give me back $10 every time I approach a different woman and speak to her. If I don't, you keep the rest. " or "here's my laptop charger. Do NOT giev it back to me unless I approach 10 women". Have something to lose, and you'll be motivated. Standing at a mall with your dick in your hands can be difficult when you have AA, and no idea what to do about it. Put something of yours on the line.
/r/seduction10/11/13 08:51 PM
2

Here's something you CAN use to turn this on a positive spin, you fucked a girl, you enjoyed it, she was fat, get over it. You can be the non-judgemental guy. I'm not suggesting you offer yourself to every girl who eats seven meals a day, I'm saying, it happened, and you don't have a time machine. Even if this shit gossips around, who cares? You 1. Got laid, 2. don't need to judge people solely on their physical appearance, 3. got laid.
/r/seduction10/11/13 08:49 PM
2

I'd rather you give the long story, and not make it short. The distinct lack of details make it difficult to really give anything useful.
/r/seduction10/11/13 08:46 PM
2

Meet more women. If you want more women in your life, meet more of them.
/r/seduction10/11/13 08:44 PM
2

I know what you're talking about, but formalities have their place. Getting their name/job/location are things that build comfort. If I feel creeped the fuck out by someone, and they ask for my personal information I'd be uncomfortable. If they asked me for my lifetime aspirations, I'd be even more apprehensive. Instead of trying to remember my questions, or getting a nice set of routines, you should qualify. Figure out the things you want in a girl, and have a set of questions that will help fi…
/r/seduction10/11/13 08:43 PM
1

Firstly, your preface is actually something you should be asking about, not just your state. In the same way getting over AA requires you to step out of your comfort zone, and push back against your anxieties, you need to do this too. There is nothing wrong with showing up with your friends, but be ready to go out of your way to meet new people. That is how you meet girls you don't know. NEXT, to stay outcome independent, do things that you find fun, talk about things you want to talk about and …
/r/seduction10/11/13 08:39 PM
1

Behind all the techniques, and examples of this stuff (whether it be routines, openers, concepts, etc) there is something fundamental. Usually "Lead, Escalate, Close" are thrown around as examples. But really, the way you act; building a connection, turning her on, and being a leader, are the things that are really what you need. So if you're in a relationship, why would you turn any of that off?? You should still lead interactions, show spontinaity, your strong qualities, and leadership in your…
/r/seduction10/11/13 08:35 PM
1

I have no idea why you were downvoted. Most of the advice is "Be easy" or "do the things you do, just a little more" - shallow and/or incoherent. Your post is what people should take note of. It's not just seduction to men, it's lifestyle, which has a universal appeal.
/r/seduction24/10/13 04:49 PM
1

I just said "hey" in the staircase yesterday so I'll have something to go off of to start convo today. No you don't. What kind of whacked out rule is this? Ideally, talk to her, but there is no constraint that exists in that fashion. Here's something that you may not know, your opener is quite irrelevant. The interaction and close (number, date, kiss, fuck, etc) are way more important. Don't hound yourself about what to do, say "hi" and transition to the next thing, have a conversation, build a …
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:50 PM
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I think you're missing the entire underlying point of how the video was constructed. When there is a greater cause, people will often put aside their inhibitions (to an extent) for said cause. Otherwise, this is just out there for pure entertainment.
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:46 PM
1

Takes one to know one.
/r/seduction16/10/13 02:40 AM
1

Yes. Implied intention exists in those questions. Be sure not to shy away from the "why" of asking those questions.
/r/seduction11/10/13 01:23 AM
2

Compliments as openers work. Not perfect, not always a hit, but they work.
/r/seduction09/10/13 12:59 AM
1

With that logic, you are just wasting my time by asking a question you did not need to answer to. Not cool man.
/r/seduction09/10/13 12:53 AM
2

Yep, clubs were pretty new to me until I turned 20. Just be willing to try things. If you're intimidated, give it a go, and then give it another go. If it doesn't work out, change things, if it's working, do it, then do the next thing. Well doing well in a club really requires 1 thing; be cool. I know that's sweeping and broad, but if you're just chill, and not causing a scene, or being intrusive, you might not get laid on the night, but you'll definitely make friends, and some connections. All …
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:21 PM
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No, she explains what she would assume of a persons character if she heard that, period.
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:16 PM
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Not really, I don't mind it, but you're not going beyond "I'm a female" to explain much of what your saying, which feels really invalidating to me thus far. Perhaps this doesn't resonate with you because no one has come near saying this to you, or perhaps you think you being a minority, or the intended recipient gives you power? Either way, you posts are pretty meaningless to me at this point.
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:15 PM
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I wouldn't engage in conversation on the dance floor at all. Approaching would be for the most part, all about dancing, or saying something to dance with her. Whether it's "Show me your moves" or "I like how you move". When I mentioned brief, I was referring to taking girls TO the dance floor and saying stuff like "Check out the guy in blue" or "let's go over there." Conversation is reserved for where it can be had, and where people want it. There's no shame in not drinking (unless your reasons …
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:30 PM
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You must hate compliments.
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:01 PM
2

You pretty much answered your own question. Pretty spot on. Don't have a conversation on the dance floor. Keep it brief. For the most part, the dance floor is about owning your space, and having fun. No one goes to the dance floor to begin deep conversation.
/r/seduction08/10/13 03:59 PM
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I agree, but that's because there's absolutely no context to how and why I'd say that.
/r/seduction08/10/13 03:57 PM
2

You yell to get the stupid small shit out of the way, the rest of it is what you do, and interesting condensed things you have to say to get it out of the way. Big ideas have to be broken down into smaller deliveries, smart things have to be delivered... smart, and you need to use your self to express more than your words can. Know there's a distinct difference between dancing and dance game. Dancing is that guy who can bust a move, and look damn good at it too. Dance game requires no training, …
/r/seduction08/10/13 03:09 PM
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Patrick Bateman did get laid a lot. He also killed a cat, and bunch of people, but that's beside the point.
/r/seduction08/10/13 02:56 PM
1

Lead, escalate and close. Those are the simple fundamentals that apply to pick up. If you want to know what kind of escalation is acceptable - all of it. Sexual escalation, ramp that tension, change that topic, get her juices flowing. Kino. Touching her is crucial. There are countless "escalation ladders" out there, find one, apply it. Most of them are correct to their own respects, take from them what you will. You should always be escalating at the absence of a negative response. Meaning, keep…
/r/seduction08/10/13 02:45 PM
4

I think the one thing we can agree with is; There is NOTHING wrong with a compliment, but it should have some context, and shouldn't be over used.
/r/seduction08/10/13 01:56 PM
3

That's not a direct quote, but I've given compliments of similar length and depth to people before.
/r/seduction08/10/13 01:33 PM
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I gotta disagree with you there. It doesn't matter where you are in the scheme of things, it's always nice to complement, but complimenting something that is intrinsically biological is something they've heard 100000000 times over. Though in your defence, some people love compliments no matter what.
/r/seduction08/10/13 01:32 PM
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What it sounds like is you're trying too hard to be a part of the conversation. There is nothing wrong with just listening, and cutting in when they're done. Even if it's fast paced, you can interject, or start a smaller conversation. A conversation by the way (scientifically) is 4 people. Once you exceed that, it begins breaking off into multiple groups. You can use this to your advantage. Are you the 5th person? Split into a 2, let the 3 have their fast paced conversation. Back to your point, …
/r/seduction08/10/13 12:22 PM
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This could be elaborated on SOOOO Much more. You're on the right track by saying compliment their use of their items, because when someone notices your effort (Matching your bag to your shoes for example), it means so much more than complimenting something out of your control (such as the shape of your eyes). More over, noticing what they've done>You like what you see. What this means is that you noticed the small intricacies that she was trying to show off, that no guy on this world will get. G…
/r/seduction08/10/13 12:19 PM
1

I think it would be retarded to use it all the time or as your general game. Rather, I believe it's maybe an interesting way to get a response out of a girl who's giving you nothing. Force her to like you or hate you. In a nutshell: "Be needy."
/r/seduction08/10/13 06:06 AM
2

This is the way the original pickup artistry works: Make the girl feel insecure (create a need), become the filler of said "need" that PUA created. She is now dependant on you because of that. Slowly get tired of her "clinginess". She then is able to self satisfy. PUA starts losing girl. PUA tries hard again. Cycle repeats. Yeah, it can get a girl... Temporarily. It's a technique that works for all the wrong reasons. Giving value IMO is way more effective than being the wanky dude who goes in, d…
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:02 AM
4

You wrote a giant story to say "I didn't respond to her text, and she hasn't sent me anything." Well gee, I wonder why? Maybe because you didn't respond to her. What's wrong with your situation? You seem like a techno rockstar. Don't get hung up on your mistake, learn from it, take action, and avoid repeating the same actions.
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:57 AM
2

It hasn't. As a teenager, I used to spend most weekends inside playing video games and when I would go out, it was to play more video game stuff or do something indoors. Anyhow, that shit was half a life ago, you're asking the wrong question. You're 32. What happened when you were 16 definitely matters, but you are in control of your own life. If you blame your childhood of your current inability, you're just being irresponsible, and you'll very likely never improve. What you need to do is try. …
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:53 AM
1

You might want to revise your comment, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense: This applies everywhere, not the US, but maybe a little more What?
/r/seduction07/10/13 02:52 PM
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I've been going to university for some years now, I've lived in multiple countries, including the US, and this shit applies no matter what. There are a few exceptions to the rule (such as the middle east), but you most definitely are not one of them. Getting rejected should not be indicative of wanting to never see someone again. If you are dispicable, offensive, or retarded, in your approach to gaming girls, then yeah, alright, what you've said I agree with. OTHERWISE, being a cool guy who owns…
/r/seduction07/10/13 12:28 PM
1

... So, Tinder?
/r/seduction03/10/13 08:31 AM
4

Where is /u/tofutofu when you need him?
/r/seduction03/10/13 08:30 AM
1

Why are you waiting for confirmation? Take the lead dude!!!! "Hey, so if you're free, This bar, this time, awesome atmosphere, pinball and and pizza. Meet me at place, at time. "
/r/seduction03/10/13 12:37 AM
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If you look at this situation, it's an interaction with one (potentially lovely) girl. Just one. So it's not like you missed your chance of entering the Victoria's Secret Fashion model secret hangout group. Next, you're over invested and too concerned about who is doing what. You met her once, and traded cyber text plenty. You suggested to hang out (cool)... But then that became the sole purpose of your interactions, and the value you once offered in conversation and coolness has dissolved into …
/r/seduction02/10/13 05:28 PM
2

"This is my experience, so it must be correct. Do what I do, because I did it." - /u/jonsmeeth
/r/seduction01/10/13 10:06 AM
4

What you say in an opener is pretty irrelevant. So long as it's not retarded or instantly offensive, it doesn't matter. Most openers lead almost immediately to a transition anyway. The proper mindset to have IMO, is not "fuckit" it's "we both have 0 value on one another, let's see if she has any, and deserves any." Having a natural curiosity is significantly more potent than almost any other social trait.
/r/seduction01/10/13 09:56 AM
1

Yeah, it's possible, but you have to keep in mind that if you are starting a relationship on a level of infidelity, it will likely never leave it. This means that if you want more than just a lay, one of you are probably gonna cheat on the other. If you just want to get laid, don't be a home wrecker.
/r/seduction01/10/13 02:46 AM
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You looked for a lot of validation from the looks of it. so I gave them shit for lying So you punished them and left it at that. That was kinda weird. You should have ran with it. You challenged the cray cray girl - which is FINE, but you didn't seem to try to build any comfort, and by asking her if it's cool to speak to her friend, there's where you fucked up big time. It probably wasn't a problem until you posed it to her. It's kinda like when you're feeling normal, and someone starts talking …
/r/seduction29/09/13 10:01 AM
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Honestly, it's a matter of doing it. The biggest reasons most guys don't approach is the absolute fear of rejection... then it's "I don't know what to say next." But the truth is, rarely do either of those happen under completely normal circumstances, but as soon as you're like "THAT ONE", all of a sudden, there's the self doubt rushing in. Confidence is the lack of a filter that you can do action X. Unless you're planning on self hypnotising yourself out of it, you're going to need to build up …
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:56 AM
1

I don't think this works, and I think you're over generalizing and over simplifying the way people think. "Nah, Sandy's already my best friend. We've known each other since we were four. But you seem nice." What now?
/r/seduction29/09/13 09:53 AM
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Nothing. Firstly, no one is watching you. Next, if you aren't getting massively blown out, they don't know the relation between you and your set. You could be old high school buddies, your cousin, or work mate. If you leave normally, and confidently, you won't ever need to worry about this. Approaching more also increases your value. You're that social guy who is talking to everyone. People begin to assume shit like you own the place, and wonder why you won't approach them.
/r/seduction29/09/13 01:13 AM
0

All in all, this is pretty sharp dude. I like the chair dragging, I like that you got up and talked to her, though you didn't close over a pretty lame excuse. I'm not saying challenge your ideals/values and get together with people you can't connect with, but this is your first approach, why not try closing as well? Other than that, you did good job. In future, approach more, and approach often. You can bring girls to your group, and get members of your group to come over if you feel like you wa…
/r/seduction28/09/13 01:45 PM
1

Yeah, I wouldn't do it. If you feel like you need some stakes involved, give a friend your computer charger, or like $100 and don't let them return it unless you do X amount of approaches (be realistic). Do not punish yourself emotionally for not pulling something off.
/r/seduction28/09/13 02:44 AM
1

Yeah, it could be. Probably the latter.
/r/seduction27/09/13 06:03 PM
2

You try. You can't do it, but have you tried? Start by having a conversation. Talk about her day, your day, things you're interested in, find out what she's interested. She's only human. If you let strangers dictate the quality of your life, you're going to be dissapointed. Take action, take responsibility, and don't wait for IOIs, or hot girls. Saying "Hi" is a step ahead of what most guys are even capable of.
/r/seduction27/09/13 04:41 PM
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The girls are paid for being examples. They could easily be supplemented for a fat man, or even a mannequin. Don't read too much into it. It just makes more sense to use a hot girl as an example because... well ideally you're approaching hot women.
/r/seduction27/09/13 04:38 PM
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I'm not usually a fan of these "Here's my one stop, quick fix." but this is pretty solid. If a punch in the balls is a little too upfront for you, just remember. The pain of rejection is nothing compared to the pain of regret.
/r/seduction27/09/13 03:29 PM
1

If she's not a cock block, you could use her as a wing woman. But yeah, definitely DO NOT string her along.
/r/seduction27/09/13 03:02 PM
5

How does physically approaching on the street contradict anything I said above?
/r/seduction27/09/13 03:01 PM
2

I have AA, not to the point where I feel like shit about not approaching( haven't tryed to approach yet) This is a giant contradiction. How do you know how you feel about approaching when you haven't approached yet? Approaching is the best way to get rid of AA. You can build up progressively by speaking to service staff. Try to have a conversation with them. You'll be surprised by how friendly 7/11 staff are because of the level of dreariness they have to deal with. There are other exercises you…
/r/seduction27/09/13 03:00 PM
1

More information will help. The way you dress, where are you going, who are you speaking to, are you approaching, or being approached, people around you? etc.
/r/seduction27/09/13 02:56 PM
2

This in certain contexts will change. I imagine if this was in high school, there really ISN'T a whole lot you can do in order to keep your composure. As per anything else, like college, - fuck those guys. In general, if you are able to point out the obvious to AMOGs, it's often a good way to get rid of them. Let's use a more seddit related example; You're talking to a girl, things are going well, but some dude keeps jumping in. You can just say; "Hey dude, you keep jumping in, we're trying to t…
/r/seduction27/09/13 02:55 PM
6

the approaching them is not a problem. The problem is that I am not sure how to begin the conversation. So... Approaching them isn't the problem, but you don't know how to approach them...? I'm gonna let you in on an insider tip. Whatever the first thing you say is, so long as it isn't something offensive, or instantly retarded, will become irrelevant very quickly. The opener is NOT at all important. The interaction is. If you ask her where the bathroom is, give her a compliment, or talk to your…
/r/seduction27/09/13 02:50 PM
1

confidence is when you can do it, I'm pretty sure this isn't true. Confidence doesn't necessarily have to correlate to ability. arrogance is when you can't No, that is ineptitude. You can be perfectly capable and arrogant at the same time.
/r/seduction22/09/13 02:19 PM
3

Confidence is the lack of a filter for doing an action. Often achieved by knowledge and/or practice. Arrogance is a much more closed off idea that you>Everything & Everyone. You probably have a pretty immeasurable confidence when it comes to putting toast in a toaster. If you had to tell me about that "confidence", then we have arrogance.
/r/seduction21/09/13 10:43 AM
1

They're*
/r/seduction20/09/13 02:52 AM
1

No, it's not social to stalk someone.
/r/seduction18/09/13 09:09 AM
1

AKA "Just be taller."
/r/seduction18/09/13 09:08 AM
1

Nope. I don't associate my fitness with how I go into seduction. Fitness is for me, so I can do the things I want without turning into a hot mess after a day of activities. Also, the whole being huge gets women, is absolute bullshit. It's an idea from the 80s that is yet to die hard. (Also evident by the /r/funny post about 1 month ago, where a body builder forum lost their mind when a fat dude had a girlfriend and none of them did). With all things it's a balance. You can exercise too much, you…
/r/seduction18/09/13 09:07 AM
1

I exercise regularly, before then, and now. Can you be more specific?
/r/seduction18/09/13 03:24 AM
1

Read The Game, did a a bootcamp, then followed up with tonnes of practice.
/r/seduction17/09/13 02:01 PM
1

One is full of inexperienced flamers who use 0 evidence/science/experience, but think masterbating to pornography counts as seduction experience... and then there's a mixed group of people of varying backgrounds, with some great hits and misses. My suggestion is you stay away from the former.
/r/seduction16/09/13 03:21 PM
1

Yeah I hear, but your logistics are in your control. It might not be fixable now, but in a year or two, it will be in your hands, and you ought to make decisions to alleviate the living at home situation. Some folks on seddit are retarded. Especially the guys at /r/highseddit. If you want tried and tested experience, I respect your decision to take what I've said, if you don't want illogical theories based on testosterone charged stupidity, don't listen to them.
/r/seduction16/09/13 10:39 AM
2

"Hey"
/r/seduction16/09/13 08:48 AM
6

Realistically, you should not do either. Most sedditors will tell you to do neither as well, because stealing some ones number without them giving it to you is pretty beta. More over, you can add her on facebook, but all you did was have one decent interaction, in which you're clearly waaaay more invested in than she is. If you have "other leads" why don't you pursue them, instead of chasing this one in the creepiest, most deviant way possible? You said it yourself, it's a large campus, go have …
/r/seduction16/09/13 08:46 AM
1

I think the advice you received is horse shit, but I would suggest you do what you want to do. As a rule, I generally only do things with people I would hang out with whether anything was happening or not. Age is irrelevant. I suggest you do what you want to do, and do what works best.
/r/seduction16/09/13 08:32 AM
1

Who told you to focus on people more your age? I would really like to know. As the very illustrious /u/bl1y has stated; no one cares It is literally a number that indicates how many years you've been rotting away - bar statutory rape.
/r/seduction16/09/13 05:52 AM
3

What a great first world problem to have. Staying grounded is an interesting topic, because there are some universal consistencies, but there are also some very person to person specifics that apply. I used to yearn for adoration, but now I think it's passable. Hell, 30 minutes ago, a friend of mine said "You're inspiring" before I left, and it didn't sink in til I almost walked away. My point here is that I do things because I enjoy doing them, not because I need others approval for any validat…
/r/seduction15/09/13 01:21 PM
3

Sure, if you want to come in between their relationship. In all honesty, there are consequences and reasoning behind stuff like this happening. She may have grown distant, she may be trying to get revenge, she may have been lying, etc. It's a matter of you figuring out whether you want to put yourself in between that "relationship".
/r/seduction15/09/13 01:14 PM
2

No where did you mention escalation in that. Nor have you mentioned what you've done to try (though I did see you say you're clueless. ) that said, you escalate to see where she's at, AND turn her on. This is a physical and social act. The topics become more sexual and emotionally relevant, and the physical goes from friendly to more than friendly. If you want to get laid, you have to TRY. Put yourself on the line, you'll miss a few times and hit. Get critique and feedback from others, and know …
/r/seduction14/09/13 08:30 AM
-9

I don't have, nor have I ever had a quiz in any of my classes. What now?
/r/seduction13/09/13 07:06 AM
0

Are you for real? This kid has been fueling an argument for DAYS. You people are fucked.
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:56 AM
0

I never did the SAT. Stop arguing. EDIT: Just to use your own analogy. You are the kid who goes up to the guy who he doesn't like, and then eats up friction as soon as it appears. You then throw a shit fight, and make EVERYTHING personal, and tell him that he should stop picking on you, he then agrees, then you call him out for not being fair, and then take out every personal attack you can gather with all that little mustered might you have. You then get all your friends to come join in the fun…
/r/seduction13/09/13 03:46 AM
0

If you're going to be using your age as a disqualifier, you'ves ostensibly invalidated anything and everything you've said. Have a great day. Also, that's not what insecure means. Read a book :)
/r/seduction12/09/13 11:27 PM
0

Actually, that's not outcome dependence. But nice try.
/r/seduction12/09/13 11:37 AM
0

You're full of shit analogies. Stop fighting hypocrite.
/r/seduction12/09/13 11:37 AM
-1

Then why are you continuing to argue? I don't care what your intentions are, your actions speak way fuckin' louder than your words. Yeah our maturities swapped, but I'm glad our intellects haven't because I'd be afraid to be as dumb as you.
/r/seduction12/09/13 05:07 AM
2

Friggin' loopholes.
/r/seduction12/09/13 01:03 AM
0

Gee I dunno, maybe the fact that you said that, then proceeded to argue, then say you didn't want to argue? Then you quoted yourself to try to prove a point. Your actions and words make sweeping contradictions, and It doesn't make you a hypocrite, but it certainly makes you an idiot.
/r/seduction11/09/13 11:20 PM
1

I thought this was a provoking quote I heard last night, that you might want to take with you; "The pain of rejection is nothing compared to the pain of regret."
/r/seduction11/09/13 05:08 PM
1

I'd suggest you have your own alone "me" time, it will help you wrap your head around things. If you went on an approach spree (which you could arguably do when not on vacation), you're going to just put that excess pressure on yourself and psych yourself out more. Let's be honest, you seem like a cool guy, it's just now a matter of showing that side of you, and the only way you can is if you approach. Gotta share the love.
/r/seduction11/09/13 04:46 PM
2

You should work on your sticking points, and try to push as far beyond them as possible. Often sticking points are a consequence of the next (few) parts of the process, hence why trying to get over AA by JUST approaching can be useless, if not detrimental. Remember that women, no matter how beautiful, are still people. They have insecurities, shitty problems, they take shits, they do stupid shit and fart. You also have the added benefit that you're probably never going to see ANY of the people t…
/r/seduction11/09/13 03:52 PM
2

I got nothin' but respect for my fellow man.
/r/seduction11/09/13 10:35 AM
1

That's too bad man. At least you've got some level of closure.
/r/seduction11/09/13 09:47 AM
-2

"Let's not argue" says the kid who just started arguing.
/r/seduction11/09/13 07:00 AM
-5

I'm not sure if you're aware, but /r/highseddit is not allowed to be promoted here. They dug their own grave away from seddit, claiming that high school is a complete other world. Oh and they're all batshit crazy.
/r/seduction11/09/13 03:21 AM
0

In the same way you apply it as an adult. There are no differences seeing as you are also kinoing humans.
/r/seduction11/09/13 02:37 AM
1

Because we are comfortable with the familiar, we want what we know, we want the old - it's biological. Secondly, some Asian guys have the passive temperments that attract no one, except other passive asians. I've met very few asian girls who aren't super submissive, or compensating with excess masculine energy.
/r/seduction11/09/13 02:04 AM
2

I was kinda irksom when I read this at first, but you're right. The levels of passiveness is unbelievable. Even those who are more developed are passive aggressive beyond belief. On another note, I once mistook this asian girl for someone I knew and when I retracted, she appologised. Wait up. Wut? She said "sorry" because I made a mistake. I then told her not to apologise for my mistake, and ahe apologised again...
/r/seduction10/09/13 02:25 PM
1

I'll definitely take you up on that next time i'm in Europe. If you don't make a post about the result, definitely send me a message telling me how things go and what happens.
/r/seduction10/09/13 12:42 PM
-1

You know you can just not reply right?
/r/seduction10/09/13 12:40 PM
1

Yeah man, get your closure. If she says "no" it's better than her saying nothing at all. The pain of rejection is nothing compared to the pain of regret. Also, hook me up with your dealer.
/r/seduction10/09/13 10:02 AM
2

Go meet her in person. Yeah, you fucked up by not reciprocating, and yeah, you fcked up on passing her to a dude, and you created some distance, and she came back to you... So this is where you're at; She is with a guy she likes, and wants another guy (you) significantly more. You don't have to go back to the fuck friends thing seeig as you're both on the super sappy pouring of love of one another. Meet her in person, go talk things out, make everything (intentions mainly) clear, and see if you …
/r/seduction10/09/13 09:22 AM
4

I don't actually see any observation or question. What is it exactly that you're saying? As an Asian male myself, I've in all but one case dated white girls, all whom I would say are HB8+. Still, what are you asking/saying?
/r/seduction10/09/13 09:16 AM
-1

You scare me.
/r/seduction10/09/13 09:03 AM
2

You could have number closed. There's no "Quitting" if you want to get somewhere at this. Every negative is a lesson, every positive is a reinforcement. Those who take it for anything else will burn out, or be too arrogant to get anywhere. Keeping a conversation rolling indefinitely is great, but make sure you allow the space for a connection to form. Notice that the SUPER chatty girls (Assuming you've met one) can never be tied down? Yeah, because the air is just fuckin' beams of conversation s…
/r/seduction09/09/13 03:24 PM
0

Okay it's official, we have a crazy person (OP) here. If you read this, please stop posting, we are fueling an insane person's fire - an insane person who has 0 ability in reading comprehension. Go on with life, this is no longer the place ANY of you want to be (if you're socially calibrated). Have a good day everybody.
/r/seduction09/09/13 02:22 PM
1

Have you considered just going to flirt with people in real life? The internet's practicality does not translate to real world skill.
/r/seduction09/09/13 01:02 PM
1

No, you evidently don't get it.
/r/seduction09/09/13 01:00 PM
3

I'm not sure you completely grasp the point of this sub-reddit.
/r/seduction09/09/13 10:30 AM
1

I'm a writer by trade, it's my bread and butter, my life force. I however do not think reading is indicative of being a good/better writer. I think writing provides insights into interesting ideas, but so does comedy, and film, and video games, and art - it's one of many forms. That's also not to say that there is a whole laundry list of BS ready to be picked up and read. As per writing, I get that you're not trying to be a published author or insightful poet, but rather an introspection and per…
/r/seduction09/09/13 06:11 AM
1

Going out will help you become more socially comfortable and friendly. It's a stretch but more or less true depending on how you spend your time. It's not unknown that some of the world's weirdest and most socially awkward people go out multiple times a week. Giving back to the community through volunteering will help develop values and empathy. Why not give back to everyone? Example being, I cooked pizza for a bunch of friends at a university housing dorms because I had too much pizza dough. It…
/r/seduction09/09/13 05:39 AM
5

I want to quote /u/kyzabro because he's pretty spot on: I'm going to describe your friends in one word; jealousy. You've got a great conversational, social mindset which everyone here should strive to; treat everyone the same, talk to everyone irrespective of who they are. It's beautiful, don't lose it. Now, talking to someone forever. You didn't really elaborate on this, but just be sure you're having THE conversation, not just A conversation. By this I mean, be sure you're listening and respon…
/r/seduction09/09/13 05:32 AM
5

This isn't really a flirt chatroom, you're looking for omegle/chatroullete. This is a forum that is for those who want to discuss and teach and learn seduction and self improvement.
/r/seduction09/09/13 05:29 AM
1

After you open, compliment, question, whatever, you need to transition. A transition can consist of anything that moves it to a conversation. "That's an interesting accent, where are you from?" "Wow, you seem friendly. Everyone so far seems like an ass. You're way to nice to be from around here, where are you from?" "Oh thanks. I'm *name by the way. Hey, while I've got your attention, help me out with a conundrum." etc. etc. Then... you have a conversation. If you are drawing blanks, here is a r…
/r/seduction09/09/13 05:25 AM
1

You should check out Matthew Hussey's "Get the guy". It sounds like you've got bits and pieces of a high value woman, but you're missing certain practices that would otherwise help.
/r/seduction09/09/13 02:01 AM
16

Erick brought a girl, Erick wasn't getting anywhere, because she wanted you. You have Two real options here; Give Erick your bullshit respect, and leave her, she says "alright" and doesn't fuck either of you because clearly she's not into Erick. Go for it, Talk to Erick, Get laid. If Erick isn't a child, and knows that women aren't property, he should be okay with the fact that he's got nowhere and you have. Friends don't prevent friends from getting laid. If Erick has a problem with you getting…
/r/seduction09/09/13 01:44 AM
4

Firstly, you haven't tried. That's why it's not working. Do it without alcohol, and get back to us. There's a difference between "I did XYZ, and met problems ABC" you just said "I can't do shit without alcohol." If you want to talk about sex, the easiest transition is People>Relationships>SEX. Once you begin sexual escalation, do not leave, do not stop.
/r/seduction09/09/13 01:41 AM
2

If you spend just 30 minutes a day (5 days a week) practicing, you'll progress amazingly. Do not restrict yourself to one thing. There is an entire process, and if you find yourself spending 3/5 days a week opening, and not continuing the interaction, you'll begin learning shitty habbits. Aim for the furthest you can do, not the furthest you want to do. Guys with AA don't want to approach - but they could. One of the largest causes of AA is the inability to know what to say next. If you don't tr…
/r/seduction08/09/13 02:31 PM
3

TL;DR: "Do more stuff you like doing, to get better at stuff you like doing."
/r/seduction08/09/13 02:24 PM
5

Honestly, this sounds fucking terrible. I would not take advice from a lame AFC who doesn't justify the "ultimate" status of his lame greeting. The opener in the interaction is one of the LEAST important parts of an interaction. The best openers are the ones where you cannot pin point the time when you meet, so giving kudos to a lame Y/N question to open is really weak.
/r/seduction07/09/13 04:01 PM
3

Build some rapport, find out what she likes, invite her out to something that she has mentioned. Recently; "I gotta ask, Do you like pizza?" "I love it!" "Awesome, what's your favourite pizza topping?" "I like all of them equally. I can't discriminate. " "That's the correct answer. Now we can be friends" "Yay! Haha, what about you?" "Tiri, it's special to me. I'm having a pizza party by the way, all hand made bases, and some basic toppings. You down?" She said it, I capitolised on it. She loves …
/r/seduction07/09/13 03:51 PM
2

2 weeks isn't that long, so it's unlikely you've been friendzoned. She likely thinks you have amazing chemistry and has struggled to figure out if she wants to date you in that time. Spending EVERY DAY of 2 weeks is commitment. This girl is into you on some level. Escalate if you want to see what happens.
/r/seduction07/09/13 03:22 PM
2

It sounds like you're over thinking it and making a gimmick out of something you should be more direct about. It's like if you were hungry and you said to your friend, "If I can jack off on that dog in 60 seconds or less I'm gonna eat lunch." Fuck that. You want lunch, go get it.
/r/seduction06/09/13 01:30 AM
1

Go out alone. OR Make female friends, take them in future.
/r/seduction06/09/13 01:26 AM
1

It depends. Keeping clear communication is good. If you think you guys hit it off, get a second date if possible. If you think it was meh? Then move on. I've dated girls that only let the cheek in on first dates. Nothing spectacular, but doable.
/r/seduction03/09/13 01:58 AM
1

And you don't know how to play. Dude.
/r/seduction02/09/13 11:33 PM
3

Every Sunday.
/r/seduction02/09/13 11:32 PM
2

You're actually wrong about a lot of these things. You are drawing these sweeping conclusions from a lack of knowledge. In the same way a person who has NEVER done exercise in their life would say "You can't work hard at the Gym like you can at Mathematics." There are thousands of techniques out there, all purpose built, generally built, or plain BS floating waiting to be picked up. Some are good for certain things, and others are good for others. In the same way bicept curls isn't going to help…
/r/seduction02/09/13 02:54 PM
3

What you are apparently craving for is inner game. It's understanding the process, playing the game, but not being constrained by shitty conventions of rehearsed lines. I found an entertaining novelty of being able to repeat my actions for repeat results, but was subsequently stalted by a lack of progressive change to the overall picture - I was still an angry kid inside. Almost a year ago, I decided to be totally honest, and it has changed things for the better in every aspect. I don't lie to o…
/r/seduction02/09/13 11:18 AM
1

Except if they're homeless, then that's just rude >:[
/r/seduction02/09/13 11:06 AM
1

Basing everything off confidence is silly. You can still be confident and creepy.
/r/seduction02/09/13 06:43 AM
3

Congruency is more or less honesty. It's not actually that creepy to go up to a girl and talk to her with the honest intentions you had (context pending). This is why direct CAN work. This is also why some guys cannot do indirect. I actually can't tell you how to be more congruent than that, because I decided to start being honest with as much of my life as possible, which means sincere interactions, full responsibility, less inner conflict, and congruency. :)
/r/seduction02/09/13 02:05 AM
11

Don't listen to that guy. Comfort is a calibrated set of reactions and responses to another person, which may entail empathy, in order to show that you are trustworthy and not a serial killer. A lot of it is actually about the vibe you give off, and the stuff you do. Congruency helps - the reason the creepy old guy is creepy is because he's saying "hi" but his face is saying "imma rape you" (incongruency).
/r/seduction02/09/13 12:33 AM
3

Building rapport (new experiences), and breaking rapport never gets old. In the same way you shouldn't bore people with lame dates, you should always strive to make things interesting, do something original and fun. Also, if we're going to bring in self-improvement, just because you're in a relationship, it doesn't mean you should ever give up on yourself. Si, we use these things in relationships too :)
/r/seduction02/09/13 12:31 AM
0

Right, fuck you.
/r/seduction01/09/13 04:18 PM
1

Talk yourself up much? Okay, sexual intent. That is what you're lacking. If you don't show your desire for her, she may not open up to you, or maybe she does, but you took too long so she's like "Neeeeext." Hence, the friendzone. Want them to come back to your room? Give them a reason. Have a mini after party with alcohol and music. What about that yotube video you wanted to show her? Is she hungry? Guess who's got food.
/r/seduction01/09/13 02:29 PM
3

I had day game AA post bootcamp too. I now have no AA day or night. For me it was a long process of putting myself on the line and approaching in all manner of ways, direct, indirect, situational, functional, etc. from sheer numbers it became a calcified feeling, then I began building a lifestyle that made a lot of this stuff naturalistic, or instinctive. It is often not a thought process, no counting to 3, just a very active, very social, and very fun life. I hope this helps.
/r/seduction01/09/13 02:25 PM
1

Welcome to the bandwagon. You're only 2 days late.
/r/seduction01/09/13 12:13 AM
0

"There's not enough context... It's a shit test." Oh?
/r/seduction31/08/13 11:10 AM
1

The beat way to learn to spell is to get off the internet and use pen and paper. It's harder, and making mistakes mean you cannot necessarily correct them. You can't rely on spell check.
/r/seduction31/08/13 08:35 AM
14

I'd definitely fuck you in the butt.
/r/seduction30/08/13 12:15 PM
4

Not everyone is a snide rat out to manipulate people. Keep in mind, virtually everyone here is in, or has been in high school at some point, myself included. Most people who finish high school do not stray too far from wherever it is that they are now. That said, not everyone I've met is not in it to play a manipulative dick measuring competition. Those people exist, and you have little to no reason to settle for less.
/r/seduction30/08/13 09:18 AM
0

Cool, then I want nothing to do with you :)
/r/seduction30/08/13 09:17 AM
3

You respond by saying "cool." And then move on to a less shallow, not friendzoned woman who is higher value and way cooler.
/r/seduction30/08/13 08:43 AM
0

What? To get under your skin? No offense, but if it was, do you really want a girl who is actively trying to push you away by judging other guys? And if she weren't, she's shallow and unfiltered enough to judge guys in a shallow, petty way - and you want that? Go for it.
/r/seduction30/08/13 08:42 AM
18

It means you're friend zoned. EDIT: Before anyone refutes this with some singular analogy, if you were interested in a girl, and hanging out at a coffee shop, would you ever point to the barista and go "Damn, she's hot. I'd smash her box!" No, you wouldn't.
/r/seduction30/08/13 07:39 AM
3

This is actually a pretty good question that I didn't know the answer to when I started, I just kinda trusted the process. BUT since then, I have got an answer to answer your question. A conversation can create attraction by doing several things. One is by building rapport - a mutual understanding of things. This might be the reason you go for jogs, why you travel, the reasons/motivations you work. If she can connect on this level, she can see it being as more than a random passable encounter. T…
/r/seduction30/08/13 03:36 AM
6

You've been told and/or told? Firstly, read what you write because there are a heinous amount of grammatical and spelling errors. You're 23 years old, not 2.3 years old. Practice is the answer. The more you practice, the less the AA you will have. If you sit on your hands, you're not going to improve. It should also be noted that, beyond the spelling, and grammar, you've made a lot of errors about what is happening in this process - a conversation a for another time. Just try to keep it simple f…
/r/seduction30/08/13 03:31 AM
1

If sexual tension is your only qualifier, good luck.
/r/seduction30/08/13 03:24 AM
1

Literally anything. Ask her "What if your favourite colour and why?" This is a surprisingly deep conversation if you stay on topic. You can learn about her deepest hobbies, her motivations, and why she made certain decisions in life. "What's your favorite vegetable?" You can lead this into a conversation about cooking, something a lot of people (myself included) love doing, if not, then she probably loves eating. A conversation that can be very passionate, and excite her senses. List goes on. An…
/r/seduction30/08/13 12:58 AM
1

*Cocky funny
/r/seduction30/08/13 12:56 AM
1

No, "Just take meds" is. Doctors aren't necessarily versed in how and what to do in these situations. If they were, they'd all be pimpin'.
/r/seduction29/08/13 04:21 AM
2

If you're getting bored, you're probably not having THE conversation, you're trying too hard to have A conversation. Topic wise, look to; Work, hobbies and travel. Often one of these will be a point of passion, and important to them.
/r/seduction28/08/13 02:44 PM
2

"Hey guys who have deep rooted social anxiety issues, and haven't quite figured it out, here is some potentially life threatening advice from a guy who has 0 credentials in seduction and pharmacutics!!"
/r/seduction28/08/13 02:39 PM
1

Who cares? You're not her boyfriend, she's not your girlfriend, and the logistical situation sucks. If it's good when you get back, AWESOME, keep the fun going, if it's fizzed out, meet another hot girl. Unless you're visiting an island of 3 people, I promise you, there is a hot girl somewhere else.
/r/seduction25/08/13 10:39 PM
2

Meet her in person, you can't develop anything real over skype.
/r/seduction25/08/13 10:37 PM
1

... Wow. No, kissing a girl at a party is not date rape (unless your from another country where kissing is as sacred as sex). If you try to have sex with a girl unwillingly, you will go to jail. If you try to kiss a girl unwillingly, you'll probably get slapped in the face at WORST, though usually nothing happens. If you want to number close, talk to her, and ask for it. Telling us that you've never talked to a hot girl, is not helping anyone.
/r/seduction25/08/13 04:15 PM
2

Move on.
/r/seduction25/08/13 04:13 PM
2

Remembering your name is not EMOTIONAL investment. Emotional investment is her associating emotions and feelings with you, and allowing you in. This might be sharing one of her guilty pleasures (excitement), telling you about her late father (Sadness), or what she wants to do in 5 years time (happiness?). IF you start getting to these levels with a girl, don't judge her, don't advise her, just let her say what she is telling you. By LISTENING, you are allowing her to emotionally invest. If you t…
/r/seduction25/08/13 04:12 PM
1

Completely up to you, I don't know her, and you've given me little to no information, so use your judgement.
/r/seduction25/08/13 04:10 PM
1

Meet her in person.
/r/seduction21/08/13 06:41 AM
1

Doesn't exist. There is no determined period. I've never read or seen any one have a "just let her do all the work". You're still over simplifying and generalising this.
/r/seduction20/08/13 01:31 AM
1

What?
/r/seduction20/08/13 01:29 AM
3

Insta-date. I approve.
/r/seduction19/08/13 04:25 PM
1

That's your problem, when you go "THANKS CYA!" it looks like you literally went over there to ask her for her number. It's like those annoying people who stop you on the street, and they ask all these questions about you, without relating, then when they realise you don't have money, they go ICE cold. It was all contrived, fake, and it feels kinda gross. So don't be the incidental stopped you on the street guy, and stay in the damn interaction. You got what you wanted, now give her reason to wan…
/r/seduction19/08/13 04:25 PM
1

But can we ultimately conclude NO. Attraction is purely an emotional response. You think she's hot, BAM, right in the excitement. She thinks you're intellectually stimulating, BAM right in the vulva. They are based on the person, stop simplifying this shit to A or B. Sometimes people need greater investment (evident by your statements needing her to make all the moves before you lift a finger), and sometimes people will lead, because they're a man.
/r/seduction19/08/13 03:29 PM
1

This is i.a. achieved by playful teasing and joking in short intervals, quickly succeeded by moving away from her so that she wants more. You're simplifying a rather deep process, and no, that is not the way the "game" is played (exclusively). It is just one part of a big picture you've disregarded. The girl gives you her number (instead of YOU asking for it) Sometimes this means you'll be waiting forever. later she says that instead of texting you can also call her (instead of YOU), later she p…
/r/seduction19/08/13 03:28 PM
1

If you want a lower flake rate, don't leave after the info is exchanged, stay longer, and don't make the purpose of the interaction to swap details. A mutual swap is usually better in my experience (if you have the time).
/r/seduction19/08/13 03:21 PM
1

So valuable you deleted it. Cool.
/r/seduction19/08/13 12:23 AM
1

Okay, have fun then.
/r/seduction19/08/13 12:21 AM
2

See, coffee is simple, but everyone has done that. I'm talking about making a move to stand out. Give her a reason to not see you as her best coffee friend, and the guy she WANTS.
/r/seduction18/08/13 04:32 PM
-1

You're complaining about a guy who stuck around a venue, and probably had HUGE AA, then finally approached, albeit not well, and got rejected, while you stared at him, and judged him. That's some valuable experience you're sharing. Thanks buddy.
/r/seduction18/08/13 04:31 PM
1

You made an assumption, and I'm correcting you. That's not funny, that's me making the truth available.
/r/seduction18/08/13 03:39 PM
1

Who is bullying you for trying to self-improve?
/r/seduction18/08/13 03:38 PM
1

Have you ever thought about making the decision to do the thing NO guy in her life has ever done for her? Show her an amazing time, and letting her open up? Go have an adventure in a department store, collect flowers from people's yards and make a boquette together, play golf, with glow int he dark shit. Show her the other side of you, the one that is worth dating, before trying to make something of it. I would any way. :)
/r/seduction18/08/13 03:36 PM
2

Gotta point out, that you're giving out consistent advice that is not detrimental, and some fucker keeps downvoting you. I'm going to upvote you back.
/r/seduction18/08/13 03:34 PM
1

How do you react?
/r/seduction18/08/13 03:33 PM
1

First day of school, here are things you can/should do. Say "Hi" to everyone you sit next to, and INTRODUCE YOURSELF. This is COMPLETELY socially acceptable, despite any anxiety you might have. Don't feel pressured to stand out in class. If you have nothing to contribute, that is okay, but do not try to be a gray man and say "I dunno" or "Not sure" to everything. It is okay to have an opinion, but be mindful. AFTER CLASS; If you see a girl you like the look of, you can say either one of two thin…
/r/seduction18/08/13 03:32 PM
-1

So... why were you staring at this guy all night then?
/r/seduction18/08/13 03:28 PM
0

That's not how I did it, it's how I teach it.
/r/seduction18/08/13 09:26 AM
0

Can't be bothered typing it out? CBT.
/r/seduction18/08/13 09:24 AM
1

I'm not a big advocate of reading, but rather doing, especially for something so minor. I think it's a rather lazy culture of "If you want X, just read Y." More to that point, there are multiple authors on the same topic. I would figure out someone who resonates with you, and begin consuming their material, rather than brainless recommendations from strangers on the internet.
/r/seduction17/08/13 04:07 PM
1

Qualification! Take the time and effort to find out who she is in the ways that matter to you. If you're like me, someone who thinks career aspiration is important, find out "Are you someone who would rather take $40, 000 a year for a job you'd love, or $100, 000 a year, for a job you'd hate?" Or if you want to find out about her passions, ask about them, and why she loves them, and how they make her feel. If you want to build a connection, dig a deep hole in a topic she is passionate about, and…
/r/seduction17/08/13 03:18 PM
1

Communicate with purpose, and allow yourself time to think BEFORE you speak. I know a girl that doesn't know when to shut the fuck up (I mean that in the nicest way possible), because she feels like her life stories are always relevant, and is SO uncomfortable with awkward silences (of 1 second or longer), so she fills them with more words. What are you trying to say? Say it either Clearly and/or directly.
/r/seduction17/08/13 03:17 PM
2

Right now, it's knowing the truth, and the truth is that nothing is going to happen if you get "rejected". I use quote marks because guys will say shit like "She didn't like me" How do you know? "She stopped talking to me." Why? "I don't know." did you stop talking to her? "Yeah." Maybe that's why... But the truth is, you're probably NEVER going to see each other again. Ever. And even if you do, hopefully you'll have a ballin' life by then and have nothing but great things to show for. Knowing t…
/r/seduction17/08/13 03:15 PM
2

Kinda left us with nothing. Interacted means you've confirmed each others existance. Have you had lunches with her? Have you had drinks after work? Has there been some kind of tension, or attraction? Info helps.
/r/seduction17/08/13 03:11 PM
1

Isolate faster, build attraction, have him social proof you, have him disqualify himself, go out alone, go with someone else, try different venues, maybe you dress like shit? Need more info if you want more info.
/r/seduction17/08/13 03:10 PM
1

Anywhere women exist is a good enough spot to meet them. Gym classes (if they are not a part of your routine, integrate it in), malls, sidewalks, shops, also make female friends. Hot girls have hot friends. When you meet friends of friends, it can expedite a lot of the processes like building comfort, rapport, and even kino. As per date spots, do what you think would be fun. Laser tag, bowling, hiking, flea markets, classes (dance, pottery, cooking, etc), so on. You can even invent your own date…
/r/seduction14/08/13 11:31 PM
1

That isn't what the word social means.
/r/seduction14/08/13 08:13 PM
1

I have been with plenty of gorgeous women at the height of 5' 7". Some of them have been shorter by varying amounts, some have been taller. Yep, taller! Up to 4 inches taller. Why? Because I didn't give a fuck, and did it anyway. When you are more than your height, and you have more to offer than your physical self and physical image, height becomes the LAST thing you care about. People who care about height as a factor exhibit shallow facets, which is normal, but not necessarily what I want fro…
/r/seduction14/08/13 04:59 PM
-1

Thanks for this. It was a cool read.
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:49 PM
1

Well said.
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:34 PM
0

Kudos.
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:33 PM
2

Yep, Jeffrey Law the hypocrite ;)
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:16 PM
1

Pumped sounds gross.
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:13 PM
2

Attacking? Like you calling /u/outlawpua dumb? Hypocrite.
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:12 PM
1

This has become a white knighting session thanks to OP. Time to go, nothing to see here!
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:11 PM
1

But you don't have abundance mentality remember, so how should you know?
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:10 PM
0

So instead of contributing, or referencing anything, you thought it would be totally cool to start an internet flame war because you are a bit antsy about things not being perfect for your readings? Princess, I'm sorry. Do you feel better now?
/r/seduction14/08/13 11:22 AM
0

I am chilled Jeff, but why are you spreading BS?
/r/seduction14/08/13 11:09 AM
1

Just ask the questions, i'm confused. There are three questions and you want us to answer 2, maybe if you gave some light on your circumstance, that would also help.
/r/seduction14/08/13 11:08 AM
1

Are you referring to OP? If you're referring to me, that isn't what superficial means.
/r/seduction14/08/13 11:04 AM
3

I'm curious why you didn't pose this as a question, but as an absolute? Do you believe that your experience is indicative of everyone else's experience?
/r/seduction14/08/13 11:00 AM
1

Edit: I just realised I responded to the wrong post. Why the long ass wait? Initiating the text conversation isn't a big deal, so long as she is receptive, it should be fine.
/r/seduction14/08/13 10:56 AM
1

How is cold approaching and "social game"/ being social in opposition? You make it sound like they are disparate things that are on opposite ends of the spectrum. "Cold approaches are overrated, just be really social" what? I'm not getting anything of value away from this post.
/r/seduction14/08/13 10:51 AM
2

Not unique at all. I had an acquaintance who was in an identical situation. One of his major issues of being in that situation was his friends - they were ALL dudes. Beyond that, they were nothing to aspire to, nothing to learn from, nothing to impart, ostensibly - no value to give. I figured this out about 18 months ago, suggested he expand his social circle or drop his friends entirely, though he refused out of fear. He is still a kissless virgin. You are the sum of the 5 friends you spend you…
/r/seduction14/08/13 10:47 AM
1

It doesn't matter, you should meet up with her in person instead.
/r/seduction14/08/13 10:38 AM
12

What? Yes you can. This is not a "fun fact of the day" post, this is a "I'm a really bad liar, and therefore you are too" post. Your personal experience isn't necessarily knowledge.
/r/seduction14/08/13 10:36 AM
1

"Hey complete stranger that has the same phone number as my friend, let me hit on you using a text based app, despite the fact you have no idea who I am. Cute pic let's hangout" "No" Weird.
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:44 AM
1

You should ask Toby. I'm not toby.
/r/seduction14/08/13 12:42 AM
1

Therr are no suggested questions. Just ask them yourself.
/r/seduction13/08/13 07:53 AM
5

Begin contextualising kino, move down the ladder to the one she didn't react negatively too, and move back up again.
/r/seduction13/08/13 06:25 AM
6

That's like teenage bitch game.
/r/seduction13/08/13 02:37 AM
1

I personally think that one was kinda lame, but yes that one.
/r/seduction13/08/13 02:24 AM
1

Make it fun. Using a youthful imagination can make any seemingly dreary campus a characterful wonderland full of secrets to be discovered. Make a boquette of the local flora, people watch, have a picnic, find the highest place you can go, randomly join the LARPing club, ANYTHING.
/r/seduction13/08/13 02:22 AM
3

If I posted a method on how to grab a girls boob with mutual approval as a form of breaking rapport, and kino, then some dude is like "NAH, just use inner game. Grabbing her boobs is so rude! >:[" That's white knighting, thinking their less overt, less sexualised method is better or more correct than mine.
/r/seduction13/08/13 02:02 AM
1

One night stand.
/r/seduction13/08/13 01:48 AM
-17

Please?
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:08 AM
2

Time constraints are a way to passively rush things. "I'm only here ti'll Monday" for example would mean they have a limited window of time to do something/meet with you, etc.
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:08 AM
5

Ive had MANY missed opportubitys due to my lack of social Skills. missed opportubitys due to my lack of social Skills. missed opportubitys opportubitys
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:06 AM
9

It's a mentality, and security. When you know you're better than everyone in the room, and have NOTHING to prove, you would act like them. A friend of mine walked up to Toby McGuire and said "Hey! Spider-man 3 was shit!" And Toby just looks at him with a slight glare and says "Oh yeah? Guess how much I got paid?" Nothing to prove. On that note, don't rely on your friends for your mood. No one can fault you for being real.
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:05 AM
1

I think the reason you haven't advanced to an F close is because you haven't tried.
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:02 AM
6

Sex, relationships, routine, inuendo, double entendre.
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:01 AM
3

My advice: don't. Unless you both live in tiny towns, where 2 hour commutes are normal, it's a logistical nightmare. That's 4 hours of commuting just to get laid, or even just hang out.
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:01 AM
2

An easier way to have mutual sexual tension is to create it. I'm not sure why /u/pschr is saying look for IOIs, because they aren't necessarily indicative of sexual tension.
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:00 AM
4

Yeah, approach people in real life, that's just weird.
/r/seduction12/08/13 11:59 PM
2

As good of an idea this is to reduce the troves of tinder posts, I think it will die down in several months, and become increasing irrelevant. On that note, it's actually not relevant to everyone, and seeing as the majority of the sidebar is applicable to all men (and women), almost anywhere, tinder would be defeating the purpose.
/r/seduction12/08/13 11:58 PM
1

It should also be noted that you can ONS, and date inside this circle easily.
/r/seduction12/08/13 11:23 PM
7

Okay, there's a lot of random BS advice here that'll get you a 2 foot headstart, and run out of gas in an instant. Firstly, you can't have them all, you can have a "TYPE", by organising something that your group will have in common. secondly*, you need to still approach. Then you need to organise something. This can be a weekly clubbing thing, a dinner party (mine was awesome), a regular social activity (butt lift classes, laser tag, etc...) so on. Next, start inviting. Those who like it will st…
/r/seduction12/08/13 03:17 PM
0

It's called an AMOG. Someone who thinks their volume is equal to their value. If they're a part of your group, stop inviting them out. If they're a part of a set, befriend/ignore/qualify.
/r/seduction12/08/13 03:14 PM
8

No offense, but that place is a ghost town. A large portion of /r/seduction is of college going age as is, so I don't really see the point :/
/r/seduction09/08/13 10:08 AM
2

Say "Hi" and introduce youtself to EVERYONE you sit next to. It is normal and it could be the start of a beautiful friendship, or a relationship. Don't be afraid to join clubs, and societies, it's a great way to meet like minded individuals, and makes for good opportunities for connections. Finally, throw a party. It doesn't have to be immediate, but at some point, throw an event. Instant status boost, being a host of a good event is the perfect excuse to hang out with whomever you choose... In …
/r/seduction09/08/13 10:06 AM
1

Here's one on the other side. I'm too tired to type them all, so this is like easiest number close in the world. Low risk (indirect) - have something general, and enticing that doesn't scream "date", and capitolise on it; "Do you like to party? Great, have you ever been to a rooftop party? Well, there's one happening next saturday, get your friends, and I'll get mine and we'll party it up" hand her your phone
/r/seduction08/08/13 08:52 AM
18

"No." It's not hard to tell the truth. It helps, it doesn't come off dickish, and you're giving them what they want to hear.
/r/seduction07/08/13 05:34 PM
1

I saw the same thing as OP recently with the influx of European students at university, and I'm the one who hangs out with them, and has a group of 5 gorgeous Norwegian girls who have a perpetual entourage of horny guys around them come over to my place to party. The difference between me and the other guys is that; o I'm consistently funny o I am genuinely curious about them o I don't want anything from them, so their defenses aren't up o I treat them the same as everyone else.
/r/seduction06/08/13 03:02 AM
1

Actually, science disagrees. Firstly, you got a number close, it's just wood. She didn't touch your dick, or kiss you. You just got a number. For all we know you said "my phone doesn't work, can you call it?" Secondly, your brain associates emotions with actions. If you begin pushing yourself in bad moods to go to pickup, you can gradually train your brain to consider picking up women as off putting and exhausting. I wish I had the source on me. I'll edit it in later.
/r/seduction06/08/13 02:46 AM
-1

Move on. Don't be a homewrecker.
/r/seduction06/08/13 02:40 AM
9

With a razer, and very carefully.
/r/seduction06/08/13 02:39 AM
2

Meet girls IRL.
/r/seduction06/08/13 02:38 AM
7

Competative knitting.
/r/seduction06/08/13 02:37 AM
3

Do it, it's fun. It's all about being the most interesting guy, there or otherwise. If you are worried about your friend cock blocking you, get your own room.
/r/seduction06/08/13 02:36 AM
2

o Match or exceed the group's energy, include ALL of them, if you ask someone a question, bring her answer back to the group, kino everyone (high fives, group hugs, etc), and isolate your target o You should escalate at the absense of a negative response. o Everywhere women exist; malls, markets, cafes, sidewalks, etc...
/r/seduction05/08/13 07:30 PM
6

You love these don't you? :)
/r/seduction05/08/13 06:57 PM
55

"Yes. " If you lie, you are going to run into a rabbit hole that ends in you seeing 0 people.
/r/seduction05/08/13 06:48 PM
2

Number closes don't need isolation. And no, this is all in your head. Women don't have a database of men that they go "Eww... it's him", and even if they did, why the fuck are you talking to the idiot who took the word of someone else instead of finding out themselves? That's low value. If this party is your main social activity for meeting women, you should look at expanding your social circle. Don't rely on others to create your opportunities, be responsible for yourself. Go join other clubs, …
/r/seduction05/08/13 06:32 PM
1

How is that a contradiction? Just because it's uncomfortable for you, it doesn't mean it's uncomfortable for others.
/r/seduction05/08/13 06:29 PM
8

Try it and find out for yourself.
/r/seduction05/08/13 03:32 PM
1

"opposites attract" is the old saying. But they leave out the tail line: "...But they don't work."
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:14 PM
8

You don't have to eject, but often these posts are "Hey, I know 1 attractive girl. How do I make something happen?" By meeting 50 attractive women, that's how.
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:12 PM
1

First two points, ABSOLUTELY. Gossiping about girls, got to disagree. I'm not a serial gossip, but if gossip had nutritional value, women would subsist off it for life. Women over the age of 50 do it, teenagers thrive on it, even in their 20s and 30s it is something they do. If you NEVER gossip, you are just missing out on your slice of the social cake. Yes to the rest. Clear & simple. EDIT: As per the drivers licence, it is better said as "Get your logistics in order. If your parents are an iss…
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:09 PM
4

I'm happy that you've made this discovery, but there is nothing revolutionary here. If you are socially awkward practice speaking with more conviction, and to a POINT. A lot of people who ramble on do it too fast, or without objective. I recently met a girl who speaks the right amount, plus one sentence... then it gets awkward because now you can't respond... so she fill the silence with more talking. Practice saying what needs to be said, speak with conviction, speak clearly, and do it whenever…
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:05 PM
4

Be more casual. The whole gaze into her eyes, and shaking her hand before you speak is super intense, and border line creepy (I can feel it in my spine just reading it).
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:02 PM
9

Meet people IRL, it's easier, and you don't seem needy (Like right now). If you are not meeting up in the short term to mid term, there is no point.
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:01 PM
11

Got something better. When you've got some good rapport going with a girl, after some kino, comfort, and she thinks you're fun (after breaking rapport), shove her in the shoulder with one hand. She'll shove you back, and challenge her "You call that a shove?" shove her again, and she'll shove you with two hands, then grab her boob(s). I've done this multiple times, and we always end up laughing. If she's shocked, you can quip; "Hey, it's only fair, you grabbed my chest first!" Tested.
/r/seduction05/08/13 01:59 PM
3

Qualification. Does she tick your figurative and/or literal boxes? Is she the kind of person you want? Does she have aspects that you know will end in an attempted stabbing murder? Qualification.
/r/seduction04/08/13 06:29 PM
2

Be yourself.
/r/seduction04/08/13 04:56 PM
1

Now you're mixing up "Improvement" for correctness. I'm not saying there is one or a set number of right methods, but being better at something, still doesn't mean you're doing it right. Self critique is something you should look into. The ability to look at yourself and say "I need to improve on this" or "That didn't work, because of this." It's not necessarily about whether you think it will work, but who you are, and what you do. There are things I would never say or do that have been done in…
/r/seduction04/08/13 04:39 PM
2

I don't think you've got the right mindset. Not giving a fuck doesn't mean when you realise something doesn't work, keep doing it. It means that when you are rejected by a girl, you don't take it personally, go to the bathroom, and cry. I try to learn from everything I do. I have heard/read/been told stuff in the past, and sometimes it provides an excellent new tool, and sometimes I find it's bullshit. What I'm getting at is that this is an iterative process. If you are getting 200+ rejections, …
/r/seduction04/08/13 04:07 PM
0

What is with the recent influx of pseudo-advice that someone thinks applies to everyone, but ends up being half arsed, or ubiquitous, kind of a "cool story bro" post? Half this is decent advice, half this is shit advice. Some parts of this doesn't account for day game, and some of it doesn't work for meta-game, event running, and other environments.
/r/seduction04/08/13 04:00 PM
1

Never leave.
/r/seduction03/08/13 05:49 PM
2

Next time you ask for directions, i want you to follow it up with this; "Thanks! Hey, you seem really friendly. You're not from here are you?" Try it.
/r/seduction03/08/13 05:57 AM
3

Match or exceed their energy, be fun, involve evryone, if you ask a question, bring their answer to the rest of the group, Isolate. Kino (it's so easy... "Group hug!")
/r/seduction03/08/13 05:56 AM
2

By doing it. In the same way you get over AA by approaching, you need to touch to get used to kino. It's always creepy if you think it's creepy. Yesturday I grabbed a girls boob. Infront of everyone. And we both laughed our heads off. You know why? Because I kino'd, and I didn't think it was creepy.
/r/seduction03/08/13 05:54 AM
1

What were his two moments where he lacked calibration?
/r/seduction02/08/13 06:00 PM
5

The tipping point for me is when I absolutely do not want her. Reasons might be because she's too much of an ice queen, I realise I'd NEVER hang out with her otherwise, or she's a bitch - which is just a turn off for me. In general. Look for these qualities in girls for one night stands; o Friendly/Nice - it means they are friendly and so long as you are also cool to her friends, she will likely accept you with little and even have you join her throughout the night. o Fun - often translates to s…
/r/seduction02/08/13 06:00 PM
2

The first thing I was taught about night game is the one key golden rule; Stay. It's great that you got social and met a lot of people, but you weren't there long enough to build something solid. Even if you have NOTHING to say, stay. You can talk about ANYTHING. Talk about your favourite vegetables for all I care. Just STAY. If she's sociable, and attractive, someone else will hit on her if you leave. If you move around, it's hard to build that attraction and/or connection that will make her wa…
/r/seduction02/08/13 05:15 PM
1

Have you considered that maybe it's just his opinion? You don't have to agree with it, but have enough respect to allow him to have it.
/r/seduction02/08/13 05:11 PM
1

I personally would recommend you do NOT go there. There is an overall hate for differences of opinion, which is like a bad joke. If you are smart, you will stay away from that ugly place. This is my personal recommendation, you do not have to take it, but you will be learning a set of bad habbits, and taking advice from inexperienced, bratty teens who think their age makes them more correct than their experience.
/r/seduction01/08/13 05:11 PM
6

A lot of your posts are ubiquitous, and verging pointless. I'm not sure what you're trying to do man.
/r/seduction31/07/13 09:01 AM
-5

No it won't actually. Age is not as big of a factor. It's about what you portray, and how you carry yourself. An older person who is youthful, and adventurous is not at detriment to the 24 year old who is bland, boring, and predictable. Likewise, a younger person who is beyond their years is likely to be more attractive.
/r/seduction31/07/13 09:00 AM
4

This is pretty much to the point, and a good one at that. It was only yesterday that another user (Who shall not be named) was casting a dichotomy of "Beta"s and "Alpha"s, judging others and claiming his newfound superiority. My point by bringing him up is that, no one, whether in the this dicussion, out of this discussion, "beta" or not, deserves to be looked down upon due to your standing, socially, financially, physically, politically, sexually, etc. It should be EVERYONE's objective to enric…
/r/seduction30/07/13 05:07 PM
1

Also, why didn't you meet the bouncer at the start of the night? Bouncers love me.
/r/seduction30/07/13 11:29 AM
1

That's just an awkward as fuck analogy, and Who said anything about opening? You are sitting accross from a girl, or beside her, you can touch her thigh to get her attention, or to agree with her, etc.
/r/seduction30/07/13 11:29 AM
2

You can talk about these topics to transition to sex: People>relationships>sex. Example, "y'know how you said you like to people watch? Yeah, when I do it, sometimes I try to see the differences between couples. How close they stand next to each other, how much they touch one another. It's interesting because sometimes you can see when they're in the honeymoon phase, where they're fucking like rabbits, and other times you can see that it's gone stale, as in she wants dominatrix and he wants to d…
/r/seduction30/07/13 11:24 AM
-2

Yes it is.
/r/seduction30/07/13 11:16 AM
2

MAYBE. It often feels that way, but sometimes it's tone, sometimes it's ability, sometimes it's her. I've been there, and it can be draining, but I've reached a sort of turning point, and it's not so much like that any more.
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:16 AM
1

Be curious about her, let her spill about her experiences. Talk to other women in the mean time, if you just wait, you're being needy by default.
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:15 AM
1

Social activities are the best. They allow you to talk, AND do something at the same time. Examples: Bowling, sports, parties, lessons (Cooking, pottery, dance), flea markets. You can also create activities. Do something fun, exciting, and a little bit youthful. Glow in the dark golf (No experience required), gather a boquette.
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:14 AM
3

Subtle: Touching her arm, shoulder, knee, thigh. Heavy: Hug, kiss, grope, pick her up.
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:11 AM
1

What's your relationship with her currently?
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:10 AM
1

What do you want out of it?
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:09 AM
1

Move. Honestly, not everything is a work around. Before any one gets upset, think about it this way. You're out on a night, you get it right with a girl, she makes it clear she wants to sleep with you BUT her college best friend is in town, so you can't go to her place... you live 2 hours away. She's not getting in a cab for 2 hours to fuck, and riding back again in the morning. Move. If your logistics are shit, fix them.
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:09 AM
1

As someone who went on a bootcamp, I can say that they are a good gateway, and catalyst for getting shit done. Though in the end of the day, what you put in is what you get out. If you go in with bad AA, and don't make an effort, you'll leave with mildly bad AA. If you go in and TRY, you very well may leave without ANY AA. But bootcamps aside, you need to WANT to improve and change, before you can improve and change.
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:05 AM
1

Perhaps you don't understand what r/seudction means when we say "alpha." Says the guy who has more downvotes than upvotes for his uninformative post.
/r/seduction30/07/13 08:02 AM
1

You are over simplifying a very complex issue. There are so many other factors that you are ignoring, whether it was your experience or not, there are the likes of societal immasculation, personality types, social ability, social influence, personal beliefs, family, feminism, sexuality, sexual experience, cultural background, knowledge, aptitude, etc. which impact peoples ability to simply "choose" to "transcend". This is just you complicating the old way of saying "Just be super amazing." Then …
/r/seduction30/07/13 03:49 AM
2

Not weird at all. Still an AFC, still entitled, and still has 0 credibility in my opinion.
/r/seduction29/07/13 11:41 AM
1

So when are you going to choose to transcend from being average?
/r/seduction29/07/13 10:13 AM
2

TIL /u/supersooshi is an entitled AFC, and should never be taken seriously on this sub-reddit.
/r/seduction29/07/13 10:10 AM
1

I laughed at the first comment, then I Ooed at yours, good point. To OP. Do not text women who don't know you, and you don't know. That's just awkward. Make the minor effort to say "Hi", If you're looking for a window, there never will be one. Create it.
/r/seduction29/07/13 04:16 AM
1

By answering her texts...? This is not a "game" matter, this is just being normal at this point. If your problem is that your LTR is becoming stale, but you don't want it to end, start dating her again. Take her on an adventure, sweep her off her feet, and make her cum in her pants from being an awesome man before you even get to the bedroom.
/r/seduction29/07/13 04:14 AM
4

She should have ordered cranberry juice.
/r/seduction29/07/13 04:12 AM
5

I don't see how this helps anyone.
/r/seduction29/07/13 04:11 AM
3

Could be wrong environment (Modern feminist convention 2013), could be you (acting like a major dick chump), could be something exterior (A kick me sign on your back).
/r/seduction28/07/13 08:59 AM
3

Holy shit dude you're paranoid. Firstly, chill, this is 1 set, and as Mystery put it, "Numbers are wood". They are nothing, they are fluff. If she gave you a fake number, fuck her, if she gave you a real one, cool. This is not about going Batman on her, and figuring out the truth, just talk to more women, talk to this one, move on with life.
/r/seduction28/07/13 08:57 AM
1

I expected a lot more results since I had social proof Did you? Where? Who? Groups can be, and almost always are easier than individuals, definitely safer and less predatory too. These guidelines shift depending on experience, style and ability, but at your level, I encourage you to approach a group and not an individual, whether individual on their own or individual in a group. Last night alone, I was dancing with my group and a guy random comes from behind (facepalm), and starts hitting on my …
/r/seduction28/07/13 05:07 AM
5

He said "loud club", not "strip club".
/r/seduction27/07/13 01:36 AM
-2

No shit, your message doesn't make any sense.
/r/seduction23/07/13 12:55 PM
0

line multiple times here when people were approaching Cougars. Thought this would be useful in this situation too. What?
/r/seduction23/07/13 11:30 AM
2

Use your intelligent reasoning, the thing that sets you apart from being a dog, mouse, or bird. When I was grabbing drinks with some friends, one of the who I was talking to handed me her bag and asked me to hold it; "Why?" "I need to go to the bathroom." "So then put it on the stool. I'm not going anywhere." You find your own principal reasoning to hold or not hold it. It's not a matter of NEVER doing anything for women, it's a matter of not doing stupid emasculating shit for women. If a women …
/r/seduction23/07/13 11:12 AM
0

In future you shouldn't focus on how to make everything a joke.
/r/seduction23/07/13 11:07 AM
1

Are you sure you are getting those or are you misinterpretting their signals? Kiss closes can be done quite fast if you kino, slow down and build some sexual tension. You can try triangle gaze, but I've found it to be next to useless, where as setting up context, holding them (hands or hips), and slowing down to create tension is way more consistent.
/r/seduction22/07/13 01:37 AM
6

When I brag, I do it as a joke. It's always true, but I let them figure it out whether I'm actually bragging, or if my sarcastic tone is trying to mock the situation. When other guys brag, it's to show off their list of accomplishments, because they think that's how you attract people. Got a great attribute? Show, don't tell. Got a personal achievement, allow them to get to know you, it helps add mystery. I have been to a list of places, held a multitude of careers, and had many an interesting s…
/r/seduction22/07/13 01:31 AM
3

Bullshit. You kind of undermine your own point by making this assumption.
/r/seduction21/07/13 11:16 PM
5

The truth is "no". It's one of those smallest chance in the world kind of things. The girls with tonnes of value, who everyone want to hang out with and the 2000 facebook friends, don't tend to need to turn to online dating. Even if they do, you are playing a numbers game, so regardless of how stunning she may be, get ready to not receive any kind of response.
/r/seduction21/07/13 09:48 PM
2

Here are some basic DO's for a good first date; Keep it casual, keep it affordable. You hardly know this girl, so there is no reason to blow a tonne of money on each other. SOCIAL ACTIVITIES are ideal. You get to do something new, something informative, something fun, AND talk. A movie is 2 hours of awkward silence with a girl you want to make out with (assuming you like her), the mall is a place you go shopping, and less adveturous kinds go to be normal. Social activities include: Bowling, spor…
/r/seduction16/07/13 06:34 PM
1

Be sincere, be honest, be curious. There isn't any magic tips or tricks to this btw.
/r/seduction16/07/13 02:41 PM
1

Logistics are shit, move on. "Cool let's meet up for coffee!" You have to drive a total of 7 hours to find out if you even have any chemistry. Meet other women that are less than 3 1/2 hours away.
/r/seduction16/07/13 02:41 PM
1

Have you heard "I just had sex" by Lonely island? That guy just had sex.
/r/seduction16/07/13 02:39 PM
1

It's all in the non-verbals. Move with purpose, move slowly. Eye contact often speaks louder than words. Touch, touch her hand, spin her around, spin her friend around. Don't ask to grind, pull her in to grind. Remember to dance game, not just dancing.
/r/seduction16/07/13 08:53 AM
5

Be in a successful rockband.
/r/seduction16/07/13 07:39 AM
5

When she looks at you and says "FUCK OFF".
/r/seduction16/07/13 07:01 AM
1

Yep, literally anywhere people exist is where you can meet women. You have the right idea.
/r/seduction16/07/13 06:36 AM
11

Neil Strauss is 5' 6". Don't worry about your height, just keep being awesome.
/r/seduction16/07/13 06:35 AM
1

Can you please rephrase your question?
/r/seduction16/07/13 06:34 AM
2

I recommend you do something fun, and memorable. You can't bring out the giant big guns on the first date, because you don't know each other, and it's clingy+weird. Second dates however, you can show some true colours, and it's about selling yourself some more. That said, here's a great list of awesome date ideas.
/r/seduction16/07/13 06:34 AM
3

Dates don't have to be alcohol based, nor do they have to be to parties, clubs, or bars. You can invent your own dates, and be creative. Invite them to do something you want to do, that she will find fun too. Check this out for some inventive ideas.
/r/seduction16/07/13 06:32 AM
2

Sometimes it's a matter of looking at things from a third person perspective and thinking, If this were someone else in this interaction - getting rejected because of his lack of sexual experience, who is in the wrong (if at all)? This is so you can qualify properly, and thus, figure out, do I even want this girl? Some people will be TOTALLY cool with the fact that you're a virgin, and are there because they like you for you. Some girls will be turned off, and try to dump you, and some won't car…
/r/seduction16/07/13 06:28 AM
2

And I'm telling you, you can use what is already out there, BUT you will be met with exremely low success rates. There is a general attitude that it is not a good idea to approach at the gym for a variety of reasons that perpetrates this community. I am not against this view. The only person who has posted any actual tangible, replicable success has done so by going to gym classes, not the gym itself. Almost ALL the people who have posted positive reactions to approaching at the gym, have not be…
/r/seduction16/07/13 06:22 AM
2

Unless you own a gym, you cannot turn an entire gym into a social activity.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:38 AM
4

Check your health first, are you sleeping and eating enough? If that isn't the issue then it's because you probably aren't listening. The reason people who can have infinite conversations (like me), can have them, is because they are comfortable, and listen. People will give you the world if you let them, and that is all you need to ask the next question, and say the next thing. Other tips involve talking about topics they like, topics they're passionate about, and topics that are recent.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:36 AM
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I know that's the answer you want, but it's not the answer I have. If you read what I wrote you'd be a little less thick headed about it. A friend of mine has been going to the gym hardcore for over a year. He's a great looking guy with a Superman-esque body- super nice, super sweet, so much so he gets approached when he's out... The only person he's dated at the gym is the receptionist. The gym is not an inherently social place.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:32 AM
6

Don't give it value. If they ask, tell the truth, but If you let it off that it matters to you, it will matter to them.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:21 AM
2

Join a class. Gyms are not inherently social venues, so you are looking at unpredictable mixed results. Classes are almost always 100% female, and sometimes need partners, and have somewhat social friendly vibes to them. If you don't do them, start doing them.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:20 AM
-2

It's kinda beta to ask what thw alpha response is.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:18 AM
6

Definitely weird, move on.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:17 AM
5

Firstly, I think your hangout is a terrible idea. It sounds boring, and unoriginal. Kino is not "this is what you do on the first date" it is an escalation ladder that everyone reacts differently. There have been some dates that my hand is between there legs within an hour, and some dates where Even a hug is not super comfortable. You need to read it out. Touching is not needy. Acting needy is needy.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:15 AM
1

tease too much. Well, I don't. I try to adjust my "tease level" to a girl. If she negs me a lot, I neg her and it's easier to get along. I wouldn't listen to that advice if I were you. Firstly, because nowhere did you mention anything about teasing, and somehow he's critiquing that aspect of you, secondly because there is no direct correlation to female neediness development and teasing, and thirdly, because I don't know how much you tease, and this is actually a good problem. You might need to …
/r/seduction15/07/13 10:28 AM
5

There's this strange attitude that seems to perpetrate a large amount of newbies on this sub-reddit, who are asking, "If my logistical situation sucks, what is the work around?" Sometimes, the truth is, fix the logistics, instead of trying to make the world come to you. If you live in a desert, and want to meet hot girls, maybe moving out of the desert could help. Your logistics are important, and they are under your power. If they suck, fix it, sometimes a work around is in fact, MORE detriment…
/r/seduction15/07/13 07:30 AM
3

Not what I said.
/r/seduction15/07/13 07:23 AM
1

This is simply because of qualification. You are either doing it wrong, or not doing enough... which is sort of doing it wrong. That said, you should be qualifying, or conditioning people to not get needy. "I live a pretty busy life, and only have patchy days off, like Thursdays, and Sundays - you can either be weird about it, or cool about it and hang when I'm free." Or what have you. Either way, it's just because they are no longer meeting your standards. Instead of being cool, and fun, they'r…
/r/seduction15/07/13 06:36 AM
3

Cold approach? Lead, escalate, close.
/r/seduction14/07/13 05:52 PM
1

You're trying to connect two disparate things. Really this is you have AA. You need to practice, it's as simple as that. Every time someone answers your question, they are giving you your next question. They are giving you information to guide you, they are giving you a response to feed your curiosity. If you don't feel it, it's because you don't care. If you don't care it's because you haven't tried hard enough.
/r/seduction14/07/13 05:47 PM
1

If the down votes aren't obvious, let me try to spell it out for you. If you think that one day you want to be good at picking up women, or for that matter, if you think you are good at picking up your female teenagers, you need to know there are really BASIC tenants of being in touch with your masculnity and being a man. One of those tenants is RESPONSIBILITY. You changing your comment is weak. You changing the comment and then lying to me, that's irresponsible. Stop being a child. Take some re…
/r/seduction14/07/13 04:29 PM
2

If someone is trying to use you, you should not put up with it, or have any respect for them. If I meet you, we start hanging out, then I ask you to do something for me, that is clearly within my control and ability, and have little reason for me not to do it, you should not do it. If she is having money problems, unless it's something like... her dad is sick, is paying his bills, and being his caretaker, which means she is doing less work, meaning less money, and if her father dies, her step-mo…
/r/seduction14/07/13 02:17 PM
1

No, they are not. Don't change your comment, have some conviction.
/r/seduction14/07/13 08:01 AM
10

I read it in 2007, and earlier this year with VERY different understandings. in 2007, it was about a dude who goes on this incredible transformation that every guy would want, then realises it has it's imperfections. As much as he loves game, he used it to get him the girl, but almost made him lose the girl. In 2013, I realised It was actually a book about male insecurities. Almost every thing he did, almost every single routine he made was to mask or alleviate the anxiety from his male insecuri…
/r/seduction14/07/13 05:07 AM
2

You changed your comment, and it's also, not true. It's BS logic like that, that I challenge, that you guys downvote.
/r/seduction14/07/13 05:01 AM
1

Unless you hook up with a REALLY stupid 18+ year old, or live in the deep south, where blow jobs are illegal in order to deter homosexuals, you have nothing to worry about. IF you had sex with an 18 year old (in the US), the 18 year old would be in trouble if you or she reported it. I don't know why you would, because you got laid, and I'm not sure why she would, because she would get in trouble. Logic.
/r/seduction13/07/13 04:52 PM
1

So, you seem like a motivated cool guy with the ability to look inwardly and self critique without being down putting. A LOT of people here don't have that ability, and this is what is going to give you the edge over a lot of people, and improve faster. Here are some things to take with you in your future interactions: She has no idea who you are, and you are not trying to seduce her, or pick her up, so much as you are showing how AWESOME you are. The only way you can do this is by articulating …
/r/seduction13/07/13 10:59 AM
1

I used to do a lot of day game on weekends, pretty much through about 4 hours of peak hour human traffic in a shopping strip, and it worked great... until the days that I didn't practice started skewing my results. If I had a bad break, then the practice sucked. I began practicing everywhere, to everyone. I am friends with the receptionist, I am friends with students all around, I'm friends with my tutors, I'm hard pressed not to go a hundred meters without bumping into someone I know. If you ha…
/r/seduction13/07/13 10:53 AM
3

It's not weird if you do it with a little intelligence and calibration. For me, I do a lot of rapid rapport building by just treating everyone the same. I'm actually not sure when the instant comfort kicked in, but recently, I've never needed to really build it, a tonne of it just shows up after about 40 seconds. I digress. It's as simple as opening with something general (ie. What do you like to do for fun?), listening, responding (Oh, that's really cool, it sounds like you like to keep active.…
/r/seduction13/07/13 10:48 AM
1

I don't know the difference between public and private qualification. Qualification really means setting a standard, and applying it. My standards don't shift when I am in shared spaces or private spaces.
/r/seduction13/07/13 03:30 AM
1

You can. It still works. Though ideally, practice on cold sets, it's harder, and also teaches you faster/better.
/r/seduction13/07/13 03:27 AM
1

Go have new experiences, treat everyone the same. The old 10 value riddle: Q: "You enter your hotel, you see the doorman, a rockstar in the lobby, and the receptionist. Who do you say "hi" to?" A: All of them. You don't need to be "Special" to be interesting. You don't need to be talented to be someone people want to be around. If you're boring, you have no one to blame but yourself [seriously, there are people who I've met in Afria who make less money in their lifetime than your family makes in…
/r/seduction13/07/13 03:27 AM
1

It's not creepy unless you let it get creepy. A lot of people have fucked up definitions of what "Creepy" actually means, and it's not that. And not explicitly. If you are asking because you're unsure, it's just another layer of insecurity you're dealing with. Are you talking to her to find out if she's cool, or are you talking to her to find out if she's 16? I stopped asking a while ago, because I realised I didn't care. I never have, and I don't think I really ever will. Unless it has a risk o…
/r/seduction13/07/13 03:23 AM
1

Street, malls, outside bars/clubs, social venues, shops, parties, friend's houses, friends of friends.
/r/seduction13/07/13 03:22 AM
1

Sharing your time with someone is in itself an expression of excitment of having them in your life. People who invite others out, get invited out. Simple as that. Vulnerability isn't actually really related to your level of busyness. If you want to be more to being vulnerable... just be vulnerable. Drop the blinders, have a conversation with someone you trust, ask them the deep questions and relate.
/r/seduction13/07/13 03:21 AM
3

When I bring in science to challenge someone's high school theory, and I get downvoted, something is fucked up.
/r/seduction13/07/13 03:19 AM
1

Will do.
/r/seduction13/07/13 03:18 AM
8

In the exact same way you would as a normal person.
/r/seduction12/07/13 08:09 PM
2

"hey, you're cute. Who are you? Nice to meet you I'm /u/GeneriqPUA by the way. This is my friend femaleroommate. Question, response, conversation "
/r/seduction12/07/13 08:08 PM
1

That's a confusing way to ask a rather complex question. I honestly think the answer is to do more. To go out and really open yourself up and get those experiences, increase your value, both in a tangible sense (friends, connections, appearance), and your "inner-game", confidence, persona, sociability. With that, you can afford to start giving value more comfortably, and start really being someone people aspire to connect with.
/r/seduction12/07/13 08:03 PM
1

2 set, 2 guys, you speak to your target, he talks to the other, you isolate, he occupies. Done. A wingman is best used to supplement your ability to isolate in order to close.
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:57 PM
57

He wants the Master PUA package delivered. The one where he reads the comment, and becomes an instant pussy slayer. I'm pretty sure we're out of stock.
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:56 PM
18

¯(ツ)/¯
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:51 PM
6

Qualify her.
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:49 PM
2

I think Neil Strauss had some interesting things to say in a recent podcast about where the industry is now. Also, I'm pretty sure this is not relevant to simple questions thread.
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:48 PM
2

A guy recently posted this. It's a series of VERY creative dates, and I cannot express how much I love this guy for posting this. It's fun, it shows spark, and it's also very exciting. Let's not forget the Kino and social aspects. Enjoy!
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:44 PM
10

There are a lot of AFCs dishing out terrible advice grounded in 0 reality. This really dawned on me when I found a cross section between Highseddit, seduction, and askseddit, where a group of 15-18 year olds were pushing away any attempt at challenging their theories, despite the lack of scientific or experiential evidence. Alternatively, most of the questions being asked can be resolved by self critiquing or taking two steps back and looking at the situation slightly more objectively.
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:42 PM
1

I actually have never made a connection between vulnerability and neediness, and excitement and neediness ever. I'm unsure as to how you have, but let's break it all down. Texts - To the best of your ability, only send her 1:1 texts. Also, only reply in your own time. If you're in the middle of something, don't stop to text her back, text her back when you have the time. As per getting replies, use a little time, and intelligence to think "How will she read this text?" and go from there. That is…
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:39 PM
2

One of my good friends is 16, I love playing video games with him, and he has no issue with girls - in fact he gets like 5 sexts a month. I think we get along great because we have rather sociable attitudes, though one of his friend's who I speak to regularly has a much more closed attitude about dealing with people, a lot more "Fuck off bitch" hypothetical responses that I would ever have. If you go EVERYWHERE at all times with an attitude that enables you to communicate with everyone, you will…
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:34 PM
2

I just read all the comments here, yours and theirs. Here's the skinny, you are making a HUGE AFC move by telling her your feelings. This is like me going up to someone and saying "Do this, because I'm nice". Who the fuck cares what I say, show me you're fuckin' nice, don't tell me. Same thing dude, SHOW her how awesome you are, GIVE her reasons why you should date, don't tell her. Words are cheap. If she's being distant, it's because she's become jaded, occupied, or complacent about your relati…
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:30 PM
5

I actually love his FR, you're a little self effacing, which I think is fine, but for the most part you did great. Your approach was fine, for the time constraint, it was good, I especially loved your reply to why you played in a church. In future, w/ cold approaches, just as a heads up, often they will be a bit flaky to responses at first because of a lack of connection or attraction, but for this, it seems that you did not encounter any of that resistance. It seems like you had to struggle to …
/r/seduction12/07/13 07:26 PM
2

Simple go to topics: Travel, work, hobbies. These are most likely her interests and/or passions, so talking about them will likely lead to an easy conversation, or something she's willing to talk about that. Also start having fun with your conversations, don't treat it like an interview, respond to her answers, and say what you want to say. If you came into one of my conversations midway, you'd lose. I am engaging on multiple fronts, with humour, sexuality, lifestyle and role playing to the poin…
/r/seduction11/07/13 06:31 PM
1

You're over qualifying, setting untenable standards. That is what your issue is. You're not letting yourself experience the process, which is where your shortfall is.
/r/seduction11/07/13 06:27 PM
2

This is outright good advice, but little do you know, the underlying notion that makes this work extends WAY beyond just how much you can talk.
/r/seduction11/07/13 02:42 PM
1

Not particularly solid advice. I can tell you're not awesome at giving it out.
/r/seduction11/07/13 02:40 PM
3

Be yourself, be in your element, try to look good, and don't you fucking dare use a photo of something or someone else that doesn't include you.
/r/seduction11/07/13 02:39 PM
1

...Firstly by not calling it Verbal game...
/r/seduction11/07/13 02:01 PM
5

This is great, really original, really simple. I would, and I'm sure the whole community would appreciate seeing organised thoughts of what other creative genius you have up there.
/r/seduction10/07/13 09:59 AM
1

GW girl?
/r/seduction07/07/13 08:02 AM
5

Paragraphs would be nice.
/r/seduction06/07/13 04:09 PM
1

Damn that was fast.
/r/seduction05/07/13 09:28 PM
1

He now lives in the US, and runs most of his boot camps there, but his good friend Richard "Gambler" La Ruina is still based in Europe.
/r/seduction05/07/13 09:26 PM
1

James Marshal is Australian... :/
/r/seduction05/07/13 09:23 PM
1

Firstly, there are no "Many people"s who are asking if looks matter. And for those who do ask, the answer is "Yes" and "No". Your post is not addressing that question. Secondly, you literally made NO sense with the following sentence. Finally, that is not giving value, that is you trying to decorate a shit. A decorated turd is still a turd.
/r/seduction05/07/13 06:28 PM
1

Why do you need this? Are you insecure about the fact that you can't get HB8+'s? This doesn't add value to anything, it's a pointless exercise in order to stroke ones ego. Female value is given to attraction, male value is given to persona, masculine energy, etc. So physical attraction in females is pretty core. Suggestion: Think before you post. You should be giving value to the community, not squandering its time.
/r/seduction05/07/13 01:24 PM
1

You say like 5 things here. What is it exactly that you want us to validate for you?
/r/seduction05/07/13 12:46 PM
5

A lot of information from The Game is antiquated. If you're going to quote from it, make sure it's grounded in a good reality and strong basis. I understand that you fervently believe in this (which is fine), but saying "NEVER pay for her" is pretty outlandish. I wouldn't ever buy a girl a drink who I had just met. I WOULD buy her a drink after like 30 minutes of talking, OR if she paid for the first round. The reason you don't buy a girl a drink from the get go, is that you are trying to buy he…
/r/seduction03/07/13 03:18 PM
1

Those people exist, there are plenty in my life system. I have friends I go to in order to just verbally vomit ti'll I am done, or occasionally become dizzy. Sometimes it's in order to explain a business plan, a plot line, or something in life. They are often, but not always quiet in nature around groups, though are not around their friends. They often take some time and getting to know in order to become fully comfortable and verbally open with you.
/r/seduction02/07/13 02:14 PM
1

With people like that, there's no point getting mad about it. You can't force the chemistry, so it's out of your control whether anything could have, or should have happened. Also, seeing as you dated a girl similar to, and how inconsiderate this girl is, you don't want to date this one any way - so again, don't get mad, just start filtering. Find the signs that they share and then know to yourself, forget those girls and focus on finding the ones you DO have chemistry with, and find the girls t…
/r/seduction02/07/13 02:05 PM
3

That isn't a type of conversation, so much as it is a type of person. The ones who want the attention of the conversation, so they can tell you everything. If you want to satisfy them, you answer the question in the most direct way possible, then switch the onus back on them. "Where is your favourite place to travel to, and why?" "OH MY GOD! (longest answer in the world)... What about you?" "Zambia, the country is beautiful, and the people are super friendly. It's really cheap and peaceful there…
/r/seduction02/07/13 01:53 PM
1

If you honestly think you're righteous beyond all recognition, give me a scenario where you would not say "Thank you" to a compliment.
/r/seduction02/07/13 09:59 AM
1

You're really bad at reading people. You're also henously inconsistent. Please stop posting here.
/r/seduction02/07/13 09:18 AM
1

You have backed up your point with 0 evidence. If you want mine, read the Game. Read Adam Lyons' diary. They all state the same thing about accepting compliments. You just called me a nigger and generalised about not generalising. Derp?
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:56 AM
1

Firstly: This. , secondly, it's kind of ironic that you say "Don't ever use generals", and you're generalising that, and also generalising what it applies to and what I said... which leads to my next point, that's not what I said. Proper does not mean "Definitively"
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:37 AM
1

No offense taken, but all you've taught me is that you're an idiot in disguise. Regards.
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:20 AM
0

Since when was that ever a guideline or rule?
/r/seduction02/07/13 06:20 AM
0

"Thank you" is the proper response to any and every compliment.
/r/seduction02/07/13 06:15 AM
2

The proper, confident, secure response to ANY compliment is "Thank you." There is no need to smile, wink, or whatever. You are acknowledging their effort to notice something in you, and you are also accepting it. There is nothing Beta about that.
/r/seduction02/07/13 06:15 AM
2

Legend.
/r/seduction01/07/13 04:24 AM
1

Ultimate DHV.
/r/seduction30/06/13 06:22 AM
1

Then you have to run for office , and then get votes :( good social proof though.
/r/seduction30/06/13 02:04 AM
2

You might have read "It's not what you say, it's how you say it" on this sub-reddit before, and that in relation to text means "How would this text message sound to her if she read it?" That said, your reply to me sounds abrupt and bratty. You should pay attention to this in future. Do you really need examples? Is your imagination so thin that you require my inside jokes, and replies in order for you to understand what I said above?
/r/seduction29/06/13 07:35 PM
2

What town are you the mayor of? Do you have to be a mayor to go, because I'm not a mayor? :(
/r/seduction29/06/13 07:10 PM
0

I'm with /u/TheWilliamsKid on the "txt me back" part, it makes it sound like you've never texted before or you're insecure. Your initial text message should be engaging, prompt a response naturally, and perhaps even reference something the two of you talked about. The whole "Wait 2-3" day Bullshit came from a book in the 80's that didn't factor in mobile phones, dial pads, internet, social networking, among other things... That said, do not wait 2-3 days, in fact, you're best to wait just hours.…
/r/seduction29/06/13 07:08 PM
1

So resorting to personal attacks is totally cool by your standards? Cool, field test it, and report back.
/r/seduction29/06/13 07:16 AM
1

mizu4444attacking people for contributing to the conversation is counter-intuitive genius. expand allcollapse all [–] from mizu4444 sent 11 hours ago Kid, you're a 21 year old douchebag people can spot coming ON THE INTERNET let alone a bar. I'm a 32 year old bisexual who has slept with more girls than you will in a lifetime. Calm down, read, and get some tips. Edit: http://imgur.com/a/367kE The strange irony is she's a hypocrite.
/r/seduction29/06/13 06:38 AM
1

Granted, though she did take the time to send me a message with even more attacks, as well as some not so humble brags. You should be able to make your case, but if you can't do it without accepting any level of wrongness and attacking others, then this is what happens.
/r/seduction29/06/13 05:07 AM
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Hmm... Let's see... One insta-put down, close minded female's opinion... OR field tested success with MULTIPLE women? Before you go to give advice in future, I highly suggest you do not take it on with a "All or nothing", without actually having an actual source or body of information to back it up, other than your gender. "I'm a woman, trust me" is not a source or body of information.
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:47 PM
2

Thanks, Fixed :P
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:33 PM
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It's not about setting you apart, it's about doing it right. There's also an art to complimenting, this is just making sure you pick the right subject. What more, not everyone is from New York City, so thank you for the weak ass insight into your life.
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:33 PM
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What /u/BearBong has said is great advice, you're just getting finiky. You can make a girl uncontrollably smile at the compliment you give her... as an OPENER. It can be as simple as just breaking down their outfit, and tell them why it works ("It contrasts really well" "The belt brings together the two pieces" "you matched your shoes and your handbag") it sets you apart from every other guy because you noticed their effort for the day/night, which is something that NO ONE else did. The attribut…
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:01 PM
1

It can actually help a lot if you provide details. Not sure how this has anything to do with seduction. Talk to people. Keep active.
/r/seduction28/06/13 08:41 AM
3

I don't really do that much book reading when it comes to PU stuff, so I'm gonna leave that to the other people to answer. As far as your terrible closing/escalation, it's all about practice. You just have to do it. There are ideal times, and on paper it's pretty black and white; Number close on a high note, escalate and keep escalating with the absense of a negative reaction, kiss close by isolating and slowing down, etc... When you get out and do it, you'll start to hit problems, and times whe…
/r/seduction28/06/13 08:36 AM
0

Only works with guys who don't have all the metal they project. Doesn't work with all AMOGs.
/r/seduction28/06/13 08:32 AM
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I'm 21, and I still grab icecream...
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:46 AM
3

/u/ThrowawayPUA 's advice is all you really need. But I want to elaborate and add some stuff. Firstly, when I'm in a situation where I am all of a sudden nearing competition, I will start engaging her on a deeper level. This is so that she wants to be told something, asked something, and if someone interrupts, the onus is on them. This is the perfect place to be for being able to successfully call out, and ignore someone. This can be achieved by just qualifying well. (One way is just to find out…
/r/seduction28/06/13 06:41 AM
2

Prostitutes. No time wasted talking, and then you get sex. Honestly, I'm not sure what else you want me to tell you? This sub-reddit is all about the process.
/r/seduction24/06/13 10:29 AM
1

What /u/drrrrrr says isn't far from the truth, but a bootcamp's viability is all down to the person; what you want, and what you need. I did go on a bootcamp, which I won't disclose for the time being. I found it incredibly rewarding, and has provided me with a strong basis of knowledge that I've been able to build from, experiment with, and see the truth for the most part. (if you want to know the name and people involved with the bootcamp, PM me) My experience was good because I have a relativ…
/r/seduction21/06/13 06:22 PM
1

I'm pretty sure it's not free (Hence the kickstarter). You are meant to buy it, get a PDF link, and a hard copy sent to you.
/r/seduction20/06/13 06:42 AM
1

Good work with the ladies, it sounds like you are getting some good results. HOWEVER, This is nothing particularly new or ground breaking.
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:54 PM
1

Those examples aren't necessarily male 1:1 female versions of one another. Furthermore, what's to say a confident guy doesn't want a plain insecure girl? From everything I've learnt from personal experience, conversations, articles read (academic, and journalistic), and studies I've looked at, none of this correlates. You've ostensibly posted a list of type casts and you're trying to tell us this relates to pick up in some way. If you spray a turd with perfume, and put it in a snickers wrapper, …
/r/seduction19/06/13 04:19 PM
1

This doesn't clear anything up. I'm still not sure what you're trying to say with this post.
/r/seduction19/06/13 03:45 PM
1

This doesn't really make all that much sense, considering we have different chromosomes, societal gender roles, and gendered standards... I wouldn't want my ideal girlfriend to be masculine and a forthright leader. Saying "Be the fallic/man version of your ideal female" is grounded in no reality of science or truth to getting the girl or being happy.
/r/seduction19/06/13 03:14 PM
1

What he wrote is playful and fun, what you wrote is rude and uninviting. You reworded his examples and they sound completely different. " I'm not into blondes" is not the same as "I don't like blondes". If you're confused, it's because one infers a type preference and one infers a person preference. " I'm not into asians" = not into asian girls "I don't like Asians" = racist.
/r/seduction19/06/13 12:30 PM
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I wouldn't call that an opener, it's just an initial message. I also think your message is rubbish. it's sorta quirky, then immediately rude. I know what you were trying to do, but it didn't work. These women don't want you to contact them again, evident by the several examples you gave us. You should probably not use such a shitty canned initial message in future is my only advice.
/r/seduction19/06/13 12:19 PM
1

Yes I am able to look at hot white girls and not feel inferior. I've dated multiple hot white girls, even before seriously getting into game - one of them is even a working model. In fact, all but one of my past girlfriends, and girl's i've had random hook ups with are white. Don't go around assigning yourself a number value, it doesn't do anything good for anyone. If you are looking at hot white girls and thinking they are on a different league, then you have an issue I am not equipped to deal …
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:34 AM
1

That is called a limiting belief. What you just said makes no sense to me. 1. Because it's not true. 2. Because I'm Asian.
/r/seduction18/06/13 02:40 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/seduction18/06/13 01:29 PM
1

I am confused. You think telling a girl you want to bang another girl is a good move? I hope you missed a word or typo'd because that's what it says. Also, you are making some strange assumptions about OP that don't really have much ground. I don't think he check listed her. I think he read a whole bunch of things he should do, and just did 3 of them. I also don't think he took a "one size fits all approach", he's not complaining that it didn't work, he's asking what he did wrong. The main issue…
/r/seduction18/06/13 10:28 AM
2

Breaking rapport is more or less making her laugh. It doesn't mean you should tease. Teasing is like one of those things that seems easy, but in reality you're fucking it up more than you think you are. Also most guys find "Teasing" easy, so it's their primary break in rapport. What that means is that you're constantly teasing this girl whos trying to have a conversation with you. Quesion>Answer>Punish. Not cool. You should google these things if you want more info. Comfort is not calibration, c…
/r/seduction18/06/13 12:38 AM
3

K-closes on a first date is like a guideline/ideal thing, it isn't a rule. In your case, you have seemingly taken portions of the content, applied them, and forgotten there are entire OTHER sections that are equally important if not more important. By that I mean; good rapport = connection, breaking rapport = setting yourself apart, qualification = you're your own man, and comfort = so that she doesn't think you're going to murder her. Also, you should be doing ALL of these things, not some of t…
/r/seduction18/06/13 12:11 AM
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There are some very specific negative responses to certain kino, but in general you should be able to see it in her face, in her reaction, physical, social, tonal. If you touch her and she curls away, or is being squeemish, or witheld, it's often because she is not comfortable. If you pay attention to her, and not the posters, you will be able to figure out if she's giving you a negative response. Every first date depends. Sometimes the girl will be really into me and it will take barely any tim…
/r/seduction17/06/13 11:49 PM
3

It's all in her text messages. You weren't calibrated, you clearly weren't paying attention to her, or listening. You also made some sweeping assumptions about what she wanted, which were not grounded in any reality.
/r/seduction17/06/13 11:28 PM
1

You don't know that. Unless you know OP IRL, or were there, I doubt you have the ability to judge. Did you read his FR? It's full of delusions, such as him thinking her asking where he lives as a sign she wants to fuck.
/r/seduction17/06/13 09:36 PM
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Kino is fine? Her: Ok well you were a little too forward...Just always grabbing me and saying stuff Grab a stranger, I'm sure you'll be fine.
/r/seduction17/06/13 09:09 PM
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Yes, you are... But you're meant to do it intelligently, and with context, and correlation. If I saw I saw you IRL, and I B-lined to you and said "Dude, I'm really into leggings, and that girl's asshole is getting torn up by my dick TONIGHT!" You would be like "Who the fuck are you, why the fuck are you telling me, and you need to get the fuck outta here." There is no context or rapport or comfort between us that would prompt that coming up. This is what it sounds like you did (And why the fuck …
/r/seduction17/06/13 07:28 PM
6

Everyone's different. Early on, the smallest victories meant the world to me. Now I don't need my own, or any other approval for "success". Granted I'm not perfect, but I do have clarity as to what I'm doing, and the results I'm getting and wanting.
/r/seduction16/06/13 07:26 PM
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Dude, stop spamming your shitty question: http://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/1ggbod/successful_puassedditors_do_you_consider_yourself/ You already got replies. What is your major malfunction that is making you so insecure that you need other men to tell you about your looks? EDIT: You have self concious/self confidence issues. Asking this dumb question over and over again, to gain our approval isn't going to make them go away. From OP's history: http://www.reddit.com/r/amiugly/comments/1…
/r/seduction16/06/13 07:23 PM
0

Nice edit bro.
/r/seduction16/06/13 04:57 PM
-1

Firstly, no, no it's not. Secondly, if this is the only point you can refute, you best try again.
/r/seduction16/06/13 04:03 PM
1

Just because people use the title, it doesn't mean they are alike. Everyone is their own person. In the same way there are multiple CEOs, politicians, and teachers, they all rely on communicating in order to get to an ultimate objective, but they are not all the same. We all have different beliefs, upbringings, styles and understandings of the material, and the world around us.
/r/seduction16/06/13 03:37 PM
1

Honestly, this is a really shallow way to perceive women, not to mention, a very unsubstantiated claim for what the article is actually stating. If you look at the research, it's about personality correlation, and not casting a giant umbrella over an entire gender. Furthermore, violence against women doesn't dictate "Bad boy" it actually dictates asshole. I personally don't think this post has ANY place in Seddit, as it doesn't prove anything, except that Nigella's man is a violent cunt. Your po…
/r/seduction16/06/13 02:07 PM
2

Is it just me, or is this guy a serious loser?
/r/seduction15/06/13 06:20 PM
0

Again, it's getting to the point where you're running on, and you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Stop.
/r/seduction15/06/13 02:22 PM
0

Duh, but there are things which you can do to tip the scales in your favour. Basic sociology, instead of asking "Yes/No" questions, you ask open ended questions. Instead of opening with stuff that's easily cut off, you use better/other openers. You're defending a point for the sake of argument, not the sake of correctness dude.
/r/seduction15/06/13 01:28 PM
1

Beyond the part where this comment makes no sense, according to the English language, your attitude stinks. You think women are meant to desire you, without changing. Which is a little ironic, because in another comment you say: "im still new to this so yeah i'm accepting any advice." and here you are rejecting advice, because you don't believe in it. Derp.
/r/seduction15/06/13 01:08 PM
2

Let me ask you this... After you open, what do you then do? I'm sure you don't just open someone, and then walk away. More often than not, you transition, and then have a conversation right? That's what you do if you get hit on. There's a wealth of information out there as to what the process entails to have an interaction, to build attraction, etc...
/r/seduction15/06/13 12:14 PM
1

Thank you for proving my point.
/r/seduction15/06/13 11:58 AM
2

It's sad when you can't see when you are being helped. You have an extremely thin skin.
/r/seduction15/06/13 11:49 AM
2

Do you want everything wrapped in cotton wool to learn? You took a slap to the face, and you didn't even have the hindsight to see what you might've done wrong.
/r/seduction15/06/13 11:38 AM
1

You should become an astronaut and get space pussy, then tell everyone you went to fuckin' space, and get that space pre-selection. Don't make sense? Yeah your comment sounds about the same.
/r/seduction15/06/13 11:18 AM
2

This story is kind of hard to believe as it is, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. You actually have a really shitty attitude, which is likely the core of your inabilty to get the women you want, and you need to deal with that first. The blonde tried to let you down easy, likely because she thought you dressed like a 10 year old boy, and just had nothing in common, but you didn't respond with any level of masculinity, cussing her, trying to take value away. You are incredibly entitled,…
/r/seduction15/06/13 11:13 AM
0

Being socially calibrated, and socially intelligent means you can reduce the amount of misses and increase the amounts of hits. The best shot in the world doesn't miss 20 times before he gets a bullseye, and say "I have an abundance of bullets, so it don't matter." Get it right when you can.
/r/seduction15/06/13 07:23 AM
1

There is something called dance game. It's mostly non-verbal stuff, and it goes pretty friggin' deep. There are meta-game elements to it, there are forcing IOI elements to it, there are plenty of kino, and sexual elements to it too.
/r/seduction15/06/13 06:11 AM
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The problem with most of these is she can say "no" and it ends there.
/r/seduction15/06/13 06:06 AM
0

That's not how it works at all. You are a collection of 4 out of 8 possible characteristics. Though of those 4, you are on a scale. It's possible to meet two ENFPs, one who is an extremely outgoing extrovert, and another who is an introverted extrovert for example. The most common personality type in the US (approx 35%) is ENFP. The most common personality type in China is ISTJ (Approx 80%). This is not to say an ISTJ has never been laid, or for that matter is even a bad thing. Technical shit as…
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:12 PM
1

Yes, I think a lot of guys here forget that self improvement, and confidence, should also be complimented with social intelligence. This isn't just having a conversation, but HOW to have a better/smarter conversation.
/r/seduction14/06/13 06:50 PM
0

After some thought, I get the feeling that you've figured out a good/safe entry point to meeting women at the gym (Granted it seems rough, but it's for the most part, working). Unfortunately, the hivemind of "I once read this on Seddit, I have never tried, it but it must be true!" is coming out instead of asking for more intricate details as to the sticking points in this specific environment. I'm going to say, keep doing this stuff, but see if you can break it down to the fundamentals, and from…
/r/seduction14/06/13 06:33 PM
0

No, you don't "See her" you are looking at her. There's a huge difference.
/r/seduction14/06/13 06:28 PM
0

Introvert, sensor, logical, judgemental. For more explanation: http://www.16personalities.com/
/r/seduction14/06/13 06:27 PM
2

IMHO, I don't think you should listen to TommyPUA on this one. He's a hit and miss character on here, and right now it's registering as a "Miss". Cold approaches with 0 IOIs, or situational capability at a gym is a great way to make no progress and shatter your confidence (Especially considering your first reply here was "I'm too scared"). A gym for women isn't a particularly empowering place... men stare at them (for obvious reason), they're often outnumbered, and they are more or less there fo…
/r/seduction14/06/13 05:33 PM
2

Not a good idea. A lot of women feel intimidated, and/or vulnerable at the gym. This has a high chance of freaking her out.
/r/seduction14/06/13 05:30 PM
1

Mastering not only the premise, but the ability to apply "Less is more" is the day that you will drown in vaginas.
/r/seduction14/06/13 04:13 PM
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I don't actually think the gym is a place that you should NEVER talk to someone, but as per the floor, I don't think it's a great idea. Classes, however... That's a different story, and that's what you're talking about. I'm back tracking and correcting myself, but... I think all of the stuff you've said should be summarised to this: If you want to go to the gym for social reasons, go to classes, don't just do weights. Rarely any, if not, no males go to the gym classes (like Aerobics, pilates, yo…
/r/seduction14/06/13 03:53 PM
2

I don't go to the gym any more, and haven't for several years because I did most of my workout at home. So no, I have not experimented with hitting on girls at the gym. I have however, been a part of many conversations with females about their hesitations with doing things at the gym, as well as those with guys who work in gyms. To detail, the females who do go to the gym, will sometimes limit their workout, because a gym can be intimidating, and make them feel very vulnerable. I remember one pa…
/r/seduction14/06/13 03:24 PM
0

This is pretty much says it. I find it really difficult to agree with most of the things I've read here from both a social standpoint, and from what I've been told by PTs who work in and out of gyms. EDIT: I am aware I have contradicted myself in a single thread. OP has done the work, and we're just telling him "Your work isn't good enough because we think otherwise."
/r/seduction14/06/13 02:52 PM
1

Author's youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/user/TehPrankMasta EDIT: My point is... take everything with a grain of salt. The channel alludes to more a case of "Master of regurgitation" than master of seduction.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:50 AM
1

It's great that you're taking steps to try to improve this part of your life, but there is a lot of stuff you should take in mind, that is better told to you now, so you don't have to figure out later on your own. First off, YES, talk to girls. You don't need to see them as "Practice" you should see them as actual sets. You will get the practice from attempting the ENTIRE process. If you just see them objectively, you'll develop poor form, and likely a very contrived attitude. Here's the next th…
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:48 AM
1

PM me if you're serious about this, and you're not a troll.
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:40 AM
2

I'm not sure what the point of this is. I agree with you in some regards, there are some people here who say some very profound things that have 0 basis in reality or truth, but... This is a large post that tries to declare gospel on a narrow section of pick up. If I am not working a room, which ever set I engage is mine, and I rarely ever get rejected because of how I approach, and how I engage groups. I am not alone in this, I have a friend who has developed in a similar matter, and having see…
/r/seduction14/06/13 11:39 AM
3

Being married = automatic pre-selection. She sees that ring, meaning another woman has chosen him 4 LYF. He probably can go anywhere, it's cheating.
/r/seduction14/06/13 10:57 AM
1

Beijing or shanghai are better ideas. I have been told, HK girls are way less conservative, but they will only sleep with local dudes out of some strange principal. Shanghai and beijing has a 30% white populace now, and hardly any are interested in the ISTJ, beta-tastic personalities China offers... So being a white washed asian is like shooting fish in a barrel.
/r/seduction14/06/13 10:55 AM
1

Dude, sell your shit somewhere else. This is not an advertising platform for you.
/r/seduction12/06/13 06:40 AM
1

I don't carry a speadsheet with me, so I can't tell you, but there have been many times when the interest was REALLY friggin' obvious from the get go. Some of them dressed taller, some of them were taller, and some of them were shorter.
/r/seduction12/06/13 06:38 AM
1

I'm 5' 7", which used to bug the shit out of me... then I found out that Neil Strauss is only 5' 6", and soon after, that Jesse from Simple Pickup is also 5' 7". Two of my ex-girlfriends have been taller than me (5' 8" & 5' 9"), and it really didn't bug any of us in the least. Your height is not a huge factor, but it can occasionally scream at the shallow part of some girls. The easiest way around it is to give it no value, and play it off. It shouldn't be a weakness, whether you use this as a p…
/r/seduction12/06/13 06:36 AM
1

Facepalm* They're called examples dude.
/r/seduction11/06/13 04:01 PM
2

There's nothing you can do for 3 weeks. But this is something you're going to have to talk to her about yourself when she's back. HOWEVER, in the mean time, I suggest you go meet other women. Unless you somehow convinced her to be exclusive with you in the last however long, you've been seeing each other, she is probably doing the dirty with other dudes. Meeting other women means that you have more options in the coming weeks, especially if things don't work out, and also helps with abundance me…
/r/seduction11/06/13 03:13 PM
1

I read the original parent comment, and was about to go through your comment history to answer some. But having read this one, you're just an entitled little shit. You don't deserve your questions answered.
/r/seduction11/06/13 03:06 PM
3

Water in a small glass with ice, and lemon looks like G&T. Costs you $0, give tips to waiters for helping your deception. Pre drinks (If alcohol is a must) Use Public transport. Make a rich friend (Easier said then done) Go to a thrift shop, you can find some dope ass shit there.
/r/seduction11/06/13 03:02 PM
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Interesting question. It's all about the context, and the people. Here's an example of where a silence is welcomed: (Scenario: waiting for a bus) Her: I had a lot of fun. You: Me too. Let's do this again some time. Her: I'd love to. mofuckin' sexual tension Here's where it's not so great. You: I really like Breaking bad Her: I hate TV. You: Okay. Mofuckin' painful silence It's all about being able to have some level of emotional empathy, to look at the situation from her point of view, your poin…
/r/seduction11/06/13 02:59 PM
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It means she is looking for something you are not providing. If we were talking for a long time, me a mega-yacht salesman, and you as a potential customer and said "No, I'm just looking to buy my first car right now." I'd be put off too. You are quaifying her, and she is not meeting your qualification (no relationship stuff, just fun)
/r/seduction11/06/13 02:53 PM
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Technically, they are the same people. It's just how they perceive you. Don't tell me you've never seen someone at a party stand up to defend, or look after another friend. The way to make these people stick around is simply investment. If they have time, and effort invested into you, they are more and more willing to spend time with you for less and less reasons. You need to spend time with them in order to build a friendship that exists in a greater realm than drinking, dancing, and late night…
/r/seduction11/06/13 02:50 PM
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They are standing up straight.
/r/seduction10/06/13 10:44 PM
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Problems with that logic: MOST people are not male models Models are doing something very deliberate with their pose, often it is not "Appear as a normal person in a normal situation." When did a male model represent the ideal posture/confidence for public speaking/picking up women? Some people's relaxed posture is horrendous.
/r/seduction10/06/13 09:46 PM
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He's actually speaking about vocal projection, not tone control. He's also close, but incorrect. Speaking from the stomach, diaphragm is actually the best way to be heard loud and clear. You can google exercises to do this. Using your diaphragm means that you can speak for longer, and louder. It also means you will NOT lose your voice when loud volume is required.
/r/seduction10/06/13 12:01 PM
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I get what you're saying about shaking a hand with a woman vs man, but would you go limp hand just because she's a female? No, you still have to have a solid grip. I try to match a guy's grip, unless he's trying to crush mine, then he's just retarded, but with women, it's still firm, though often not as strong.
/r/seduction10/06/13 11:59 AM
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So not true.
/r/seduction10/06/13 04:11 AM
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Dude, I don't think you understand anything. At all. You probably should stop posting here because you ask for our help, ignore it, and then throw your own BS in the mix. The way in which you think, and the way in which you absorb information is in a lot of ways quite contradictory to what the sub-reddit is all about, and in also quite dangerous. You will never learn, or get better at this if you DO NOT change.
/r/seduction09/06/13 06:03 PM
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You're wrong. Firstly, if you want to know how to get better game, stop disregarding peoples advice, and throwing plain ol' BS out there. Cash is not king. Research has shown that provider male types can be out gamed by someone who has a better personality correlation to the girl. Back to you, you're so shallow. Top comment takes the cake about you being a misogynist, but look at your comment about your flannel shirt. Who the fuck cares if it's flannel? It's easier to pick up dressed fun, than i…
/r/seduction09/06/13 04:48 PM
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I have started a guide for this. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1fpfp6/communicating_like_a_boss_part_1_speaking_with/ I hope this pays off for you.
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:48 AM
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"Kissing" can substitute "K-close". And no, it doesn't have to be the ultimate goal, but the further you escalate on the night, the more fun it tends to be. I'd rather make out with a girl, then just get her number and have her friend corrupt her later on - They do that shit, once you're gone, they tell them to drop you. Yeah, you can do that, it's a valid way of isolation. If you go to the bar, take your SWEET time, as slowly as possible. Isolation is diverse. And that's also true, but girls ar…
/r/seduction05/06/13 02:34 PM
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Unless you're covered in pre-selection, or you've transcended pick up to the level of the likes of Richard "Gambler" La Ruina, isolation is a pretty huge deal. It's very hard to K-close a girl if you're in a part of 4, because there are so many prying eyes, everyone's judging.
/r/seduction05/06/13 02:13 PM
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Top value contribution.
/r/seduction05/06/13 01:53 PM
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Phone numbers! What I used to collect when I started. Indirect: "Hey do you like to party?" yes/no/maybe "(upgraded response) Well have you ever been to a rooftop party? Me and some friends are throwing one soon, give me your number so I can let you know when and where." - Safe/low risk, high success rate, low return rate. Direct: "I want to see you again, so give me your number and we can (do activity XYZ) on ####day." - No fucking around. High risk, variable success, greater return.
/r/seduction05/06/13 12:22 PM
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According to the research, 55% belongs to body language, 7% is content, 38% is tone+delivery. This post specifically is focusing on that 38%. However, the research is contended, seeing as it has been misinterpreted, but I'm going to rephrase anyway by saying "Speech is the most common form of human communication." Source: http://ubiquity.acm.org/article.cfm?id=2043156
/r/seduction05/06/13 11:11 AM
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Not really, no. In the same way that Mystery was a self taught pick up artist, I taught myself how to speak, write, and present better.
/r/seduction05/06/13 09:42 AM
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Is it a good idea for two guys to approach two girls or is it better to approach girls on your own? There is no "Which is better" scenario answer for you, because 1. We are all different, 2. Because our sets and people in those sets are all different, 3. How long is a piece of string? am I doing anything to the disadvantage of myself or my friend when I tell the girl I'm speaking to that my friend is interested in her friend? Yes. You are discounting yourself as soon as you do this. You're sayin…
/r/seduction05/06/13 07:20 AM
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The reason he won't budge, is because you're wrong. You have multiple definitions of pre-selection. It's simpler than you're making it out to be. Woman selected him. He must have qualities that woman wants. Therefore, she wants him too. Hence why some women are attracted to married men. You've just added in other stuff that's got NOTHING to do with that concept.
/r/seduction05/06/13 07:03 AM
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You have a point, which is why if you open and walk away, it helps calm the anxiety, and also warms you up. Once your body balances, or gets used to the rush of going up to a stranger, it does get easier. So if you approach 3 random girls and give them a compliment then leave, this is better than smiling at someone randomly - which can be weird.
/r/seduction05/06/13 06:51 AM
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It's great that you're getting out there and trying this stuff dude, but I think you're taking this process rather literally and too close to face value. The thing about most FRs, and books, and stories, is that they're short. In contrast to real life, they take waaay longer. For the an MPUA, it takes about 4-12 hours (average) of contact hours with a girl to get a lay, you're probably not going to do it from having the interaction you've described to us. Granted you didn't stuff anything up, bu…
/r/seduction05/06/13 06:41 AM
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You do know pick up isn't about ticking 4 boxes, and then taking her home right...? Don't complain about the logistics. That's something you should be qualifying for. What you should do is learn what you did wrong (which is probably not enough qualification, comfort building and escalation), and then move on, and do better with the next girl.
/r/seduction05/06/13 06:11 AM
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I find that smiling for that long is awkward, especially if the distance between you two is quite a ways-away. I almost always end up making weird faces. This just means you're insecure. Also this... This happens to me not only in regular approach with friends, but actual attraction approach. ...makes no sense.
/r/seduction05/06/13 05:41 AM
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This is mostly true, but if it's not so much the frame that's the issue. The first paragraph: You didn't do shit. You qualified her once. Why should she see you again? There's a plethora of guys who are "Fun", and she can fuck almost any of them. You didn't leave an impact, you didn't rock her world, you didn't shake that tree, you were a drop in the ocean (The ocean being her world). Also, you're going overboard with the terminology. It's just texting, not text game.
/r/seduction05/06/13 05:39 AM
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That kinda came off creepy... If you want to be closer to people 18-21, become a college professor. If you want to pick them up that's a whole different story.
/r/seduction05/06/13 05:34 AM
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Most of it is in the glossary of "The Game" and the sidebar.
/r/seduction04/06/13 11:28 AM
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No, because you completely missed the point. Go try it and come back.
/r/seduction03/06/13 09:05 PM
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Have you ever seen an interview with Alpha males such as Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt? Notice everything they say, and everything they do is shameless, and unforgiving? They joke, they smile, they compliment, they challenge, they demand. Yet, we are okay with it. It's because they already know they are hot shit, they have so much value, they have nothing to prove. It takes time, and an altered mindset to get to the point where you know you have value. Your self centred nature, your arrogant attitude,…
/r/seduction02/06/13 10:15 PM
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From the looks of it, you don't talk to them any way.
/r/seduction02/06/13 09:20 PM
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Nothing awkward on my end, just a tonne of downvotes for you.
/r/seduction02/06/13 09:04 PM
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It is okay to be anxious. It's a normal human reaction, and is theoretically tied into our biology to protect us from harm in a much more nomadic tribal time. You can condition yourself out of it via practice.
/r/seduction02/06/13 08:59 PM
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This is all bullshit. None of this makes sense. Logic = potato.
/r/seduction02/06/13 08:58 PM
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What is an AI? Artificial intelligence? I don't understand number 2? Please elaborate on 3. I am curious from what you've learnt because some of it seemingly conflicts with what I know.
/r/seduction02/06/13 08:56 PM
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lol. I've simply told you who I am, that's the point of this thread. All this tells me is that you have issue seeing the bigger picture. This might be the point of your thread, but you're posting it in the wrong sub-reddit. You seem to want to argue your reason into everything. Here's a huge part about seduction (as opposed to your bullshit interpretation); being responsible is essential. Being responsible means being wrong sometimes. It also means you're secure. But you aren't. Being responsibl…
/r/seduction02/06/13 07:55 PM
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Okay, so we agree with not doing it at the gym, we can drop that topic. I still don't agree with you there. That's shit game. To make a strong connection, especially in the day, requires a genuine interest in her character, and an expression of commonality. Notice none of it has to do with the situation? Yeah because if you started small talking to me about something I was doing, it would have little to no seductive qualities, and means you're more self interested than you are actually intereste…
/r/seduction02/06/13 07:18 PM
1

This contradicts your original point.
/r/seduction02/06/13 07:14 PM
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First part, absolutely true. Personal trainers, and female who go to the gym have attested to this. Some women refuse to do certain exercises (such as squats) at the gym because of how vulnerable they will be when stared at by multiple men. Second part, you've lost me.
/r/seduction02/06/13 07:01 PM
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I need to come up with a better opener than the creepy "Thought you're cute" thing. May be ask for directions, and then tell them you just wanted to talk It's not creepy to say that. Creepy is incongruency, that would mean you are insincere, or you are inherently creepy. If the situation gets awkward, just apologize to be on the safer side and leave No, you just leave. You can apologise out of politeness, but that's apologising because you're weak. Till I get some practice, it's okay to approach…
/r/seduction02/06/13 06:59 PM
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For someone who claims they've made a tonne of mistakes and need to make changes for the better you just dished out a lot of [shitty] advice. Unfortunately a lot of that is also bullshit. You said it yourself, you're 21, but you're also a giant AFC. This level of predetermined arrogance is going to make you progress really slowly. If you actually read back your post, it doesn't make any sense. You use a really deluded circular logic in order to create a point of argument that never made sense in…
/r/seduction02/06/13 05:24 PM
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The way you are meeting people is IDEAL. It's significantly more natural, and also skips a lot of the steps required in cold approaches. For example, if you meet through friends, you don't need to build comfort, or trust initially because you both have a mutual acquaintance A kind of "If she/he trusts him, I can too". IF you insist, where I started, was completely disparate to where I am now which is where I want to be. I started banging out cold approaches, being very objective in getting numbe…
/r/seduction02/06/13 04:35 PM
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If you're gonna be a dick, you shouldn't be here.
/r/seduction02/06/13 04:17 PM
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0 value post.
/r/seduction02/06/13 04:16 PM
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What you're feeling is completely normal. I would go as far as saying that you don't have a "Fear" of awkwardness, it's rather a thing that you don't want, that makes you anxious. Fear is a very different emotion. So like I said, Normal. Most guys who have Approach Anxiety (AA), don't approach, not because of the part where you go up to the girl and open, it's the part afterwards. "Just say this." And then? That's the part that doesn't register. If you are able to have good conversations with pe…
/r/seduction02/06/13 04:13 PM
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I used to fill every gap and potential gap in coversation with talking. It wasn't so much a fear, but a disdain to awkward pauses. I have since slowed down, calmed down and speak clearer. When I do stop and they don't speak, I look at them and try to notice something. This is either to kino something, a loose strand of hair, or to build some tension. I found it only got awkward when one of us didn't want to be there, and the pause came out of nowhere. The point is, you can control whether things…
/r/seduction02/06/13 08:03 AM
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You are self justifying a waste of text. A FR provides value and open discussion about what happened and allows people to see what you did to achieve or miss certain things. All you did was introduce yourself as an AFC. I don't think anyone has much to learn from you, or from your mistakes by posting this. 0 value dude.
/r/seduction02/06/13 07:53 AM
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Having read enriquex's conversation format, it's so distant, contrived and unnatural. A lot of girls give out their numbers to be polite or so that you can move on, unless she actually likes you or thinks you've got some kind of value, she's unlikely to respond to your texts. If you don't try to make a connection, why would you ever want to see someone again? When people say "We really hit it off, I can't wait to see XYZ again" it's something that resonates. No one says "I felt like he was a mil…
/r/seduction02/06/13 05:11 AM
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You have a conversation after you open. Here's the issue that most guys have: They overthink this shit. In the same way you would talk to someone a friend or relative introduced you too, who was genuinely interesting and friendly, is the same manner in which you should speak. Comfortable, confident, capable. Heres the next issue most guys have (including enriquex) they don't listen! There is no point asking her questions to lead to the number, because you aren't building a connection, which is m…
/r/seduction01/06/13 07:36 PM
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This is a pretty good way to get a number, and have her not respond.
/r/seduction01/06/13 07:30 PM
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Go captain ambiguous! This doesn't tell him how to proceed at all! All you did was say "They are tough to crack, and like to fuck, so be good and get them". Why don't you go be an astronaut and build some space game, and tonnes of pre-selection instead? Because there are tonnes of steps in between you have neglected. 0 value post.
/r/seduction01/06/13 07:29 PM
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Awesome, it sounds intense, and friggin' wild.
/r/seduction29/05/13 06:11 PM
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This is shit advice.
/r/seduction29/05/13 04:36 PM
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No.
/r/seduction29/05/13 04:35 PM
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I kinda get what you're saying, but I'm not entirely sure what your point is.
/r/seduction29/05/13 04:35 PM
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Touching, comfort building, conditioning. If you hug female friend number 1 everytime you see them, and you wave at female friend number 2, this is considered normal by all party's standards. If you started hugging 1 randomly she'd be cool with it. If you started hugging number 2 randomly she'd be uncomfortable. Kino is Touch and is about conditioning and comfort. It's also a form of escalation and attraction building.
/r/seduction28/05/13 03:53 AM
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0 value contribution.
/r/seduction27/05/13 06:00 PM
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Just asking questions is lame. Relating to their response, then continuing with a question - this is building rapport. And yeah, it was uneventful. Always be closing. You need to close. If you don't close, you don't have results. So start closing.
/r/seduction27/05/13 04:50 PM
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Often, the signs are internal for her. Women get the ability to decide "I would totally kiss him now" And also "I would totally fuck him right now." Guys have that all the time, so it's not quite as powerful. There exists a kino escalation ladder, as well as a sexual escalation ladder, similar, though not the same, they pretty much provide the tools to build up to a kiss, and beyond. This can be done anywhere, but better in isolation than not. I have made out with someone infront of their friend…
/r/seduction27/05/13 04:33 PM
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Some of this is bullshit. Just saying.
/r/seduction27/05/13 04:28 PM
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Neil Straus, and Adam Lyons, the original, and current best both spoke about Pickup being more than just a number of lines and concepts, that to improve yourself you need to have: Health, Wealth, and relationships. Without one, you're going to be unsuccessful for various reasons. This is however a topic for another time. One strike. If she lets it happen, it means she's comfortable, if she goes with it, comfortable. Anything like, shying away, pushing away, or a weird expression - uncomfortable.…
/r/seduction27/05/13 11:15 AM
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People who encourage you, support you or join you are ideal. Where you will inevitably lose friends the further you go down as a result of them not knowing what they did wrong, those who are deliberately socially retarded, or cock-blocks (male or female) have no place IMO. What if this was another facet of your life, like your career, or personal health that they tried preventing? You'd fucking gut them if they did, relationships shouldn't be any different. That's one of many things you can do, …
/r/seduction27/05/13 10:29 AM
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If a girl looks at you, and you both make eye contact, approach. This is also the exact circumstances in which those immediate make outs happen. It's an IOI. I get that you're starting, but you don't need to put yourself down with your opener. Asking what's so wierd about you is kinda self depricating without any immediate positive return (unless being wierd is your thing). With questions like "How do I take this compliment?" I often see these jokey answers. Though a truly confident and secure p…
/r/seduction26/05/13 05:58 PM
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Tip on your cock-blocking friends - leave them (either at home, or period). A deliberate cock-block is perhaps the MOST disrespectful thing I can imagine socially. "Hey my friend's about to get some. I better stop it." - said no wingman ever. So, to get to the make out and bedroom, it's all about sexual escalation. You create that tension, that idea in her head that you're a valuable partner, whether tonight or forever. If you want to build it, there are plenty of ways, namely Kino escalation. O…
/r/seduction26/05/13 05:52 PM
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You created an account just to say this, didn't you?
/r/seduction26/05/13 05:45 PM
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I don't think you read that right.
/r/seduction26/05/13 03:40 AM
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you're welcome to write something up.
/r/seduction25/05/13 03:31 PM
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I've talked about this in depth with a friend, as someone who has lived 7 years in the US, and the rest of my life in Sydney, Australia, the differences you pointed out are correct, but you can go deeper. Australian guys are more AMOGy, but are easier to Anti-AMOG, because they are a LOT more self concious. Calling them out and/or humiliating someone for being a loser is significantly easier. In the US, guys are a lot more confident with themselves, so when they do talk AMOG it up, it's harder t…
/r/seduction25/05/13 03:27 PM
2

There are a few city lairs, both a Sydneyseddit and SedditSydney, neither of which are used commonly.
/r/seduction25/05/13 03:21 PM
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Other stuff include sit next to her, as opposed to in front of her if possible. In general males find sitting opposite a more romantic environment, where women find standing next to each other more romantic.
/r/seduction24/05/13 06:19 PM
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Here's how you do it: Take them out (Not necessarily on a date, just go DO something social with them), hang out in a park, go to a flea market, go bowling, play pool, ANY kind of social activity. A movie is not a social activity. Through this, you must KINO, build some new rapport, and break it too. To build new rapport, find what's new in her life, and qualify. Don't judge, don't insult, just listen, and find out why she does what she does. To break rapport, make her laugh, joke, touch, tickle…
/r/seduction24/05/13 05:05 PM
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If you don't like chatting up girls, chat up women instead.
/r/seduction23/05/13 08:46 AM
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The point of doing a 100 sets is several things; Calcify your approach anxiety, learn how to better talk to women, and build a persona for when you meet people. My concern is that you have a degree of arrogance that you may not be aware of (Don't worry, we are all arrogant in some way), and it's impeding your progress. That said, I'm adamant the puppy comment isn't your cuteness, it's your supplicative nature to women. You act differently around them don't you? Subsequently you suck up to them a…
/r/seduction22/05/13 02:22 PM
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Here are some boxes to tick when it comes to being a better, and more attractive YOU. Health - This means keeping clean, being in shape, and keeping healthy. Cleanliness is important, It's hard to K-close when your breathe smells, or for that matter, it's hard to hold a conversation when your armpits are creating nasal repellents. Being in shape is more than the obvious biological triggers, but it's also good for other things - such as being physically useful. And keeping healthy, unless this is…
/r/seduction22/05/13 02:06 PM
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I make books and cook (really well). This is like cheating. The book thing is a very good demonstration of creativity, as well as a strong segway into deeper topics and flaws. It also has a rustic element, kind of a handyman, physical construction feel. Note: this is buidling books from raw materials, not writing in them. Though for obvious reason, an easy topic to change to. Cooking, kinda self explanitory. You can invite people over, or invite yourself over to cook. I have had friends who tell…
/r/seduction22/05/13 08:30 AM
0

I wrote that response with a hangover.
/r/seduction19/05/13 12:00 PM
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In all honesty, is it really? You get the make out, and you have a minty breathe, you chat some more, you take her back to your place, you go for the makeout in the cab, and it's worn off, so now she's like "Yeah, so not sleeping with a guy who taste like 3 week old onion soup." and then she makes an excuse up and then you're wanking tonight. OR I remember there have been people who are too young to drink or simply don't drink because of really legit reasons. So it's not that convenient of a sub…
/r/seduction19/05/13 05:05 AM
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I guarantee, your faculty has a society/club. If you like to study, you can find a study partner, or someone who needs tutoring, or help. You can bitch about subjects, talk about all sorts of wild and fun things. The best thing about these groups is that you already have something in common. What more? If you're not sure what you're interested in, just participate in everything. If you don't like it, don't come back. If it's awesome, if it's fun, keep doing it. You should also look for opportuni…
/r/seduction18/05/13 05:58 AM
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I think there's better advice for solving this: HYGIENE! Brush your teeth twice a day! Floss! Carry a breathe mint or two, or gum if that's your preference! This is especially useful for those who don't drink. This also applies to those venues that do not stock rumple mint shots.
/r/seduction18/05/13 05:52 AM
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Though WarehouseJim, all you talked about is how video games are bad, and didn't really justify anything. The truth is, video games aren't the greatest thing for pick up, but telling someone to drop it because you did, or didn't like it or whatever personal, and shallow reason is not fair. Just last night I was talking to this cute Asian HB7.5 that everyone had been staring at before, and I was the only person who could hold a relatable conversation with her on any topic she brought up - INCLUDI…
/r/seduction17/05/13 01:20 AM
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It's taking it from "She's hot I want to get her" to assessing her to see if she is a fit for you. For example, my faculty teaches a lot of made up bullshit that isn't grounded in reality. So when I meet people in my faculty, and I want to know if I am compatible with them after the introductory banter, I ask them if they believe all the bullshit or if they think differently. Sometimes I won't need to ask, but I will challenge them as to why that's the case. It was Mark Hussey who recently said …
/r/seduction16/05/13 06:17 AM
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... That's kind of the point of this whole subreddit.
/r/seduction15/05/13 03:05 PM
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Qualify - You should ALWAYS be qualifying women, firstly because it's what gets the girl, and secondly, because it means you are not only setting a standard, but applying them too. Live in the moment - It's important that you are in the moment, if you are distant, or plotting the conversation to be what you want it to be, you are living vicariously, and you are not in the same space as her. "What's she like" - This is the greatest question/mindset. A natural, and sincere curiosity about her can …
/r/seduction15/05/13 03:01 PM
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This is good advice on how to become WarehouseJim, and not actually be a better you. Just sayin'.
/r/seduction14/05/13 04:29 PM
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If she likes a sitcom, just tell her you were watching a rerun of said sitcom. There are few women out there who dislike Friends, sex and the city, and/or how I met your mother.
/r/seduction12/05/13 04:56 PM
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There is common knowledge of PUA types who do regularly slap butts... WHEN they have massive amounts of pre-selection, attraction, kino'd like nuts, social proof, and personified themselves as a lovable, playboy type with the prior mentioned. Going out of your way to slap a random drunk girl in the butt is a good way of increasing your chances to go to jail, get arrested, punched in the face by a friend/boyfriend or look like a freak.
/r/seduction12/05/13 03:35 PM
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Example is "e.g" not "ex". That was extremely confusing.
/r/seduction12/05/13 12:20 PM
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The whole back and forth "I improved" and then "I can't do it" is approach anxiety. It's like if you were anxious about driving, and you conquered your fear. Sure you braved up, you felt the adrenaline, and you did it, but the next time, you still have that anxiety, but a part of you is like "I did it... I already proved that I can do it. I don't need to do it again." The simple way to break through that barrier is to keep going. You don't go from Zero to Hero in 5 approaches, you need to keep g…
/r/seduction12/05/13 12:13 PM
1

Still doesn't speak highly of you and your shitty attitude.
/r/seduction06/05/13 02:38 AM
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Yeah, hence why you deleted all your poste. I can't take you seriously.
/r/seduction05/05/13 03:13 AM
1

I personally don't think failing as many times as possible is a good idea. If you try to do your absolute best and understand the many subjective failures that do exist, and how they don't really matter, you will progress a lot faster. You will get rejected naturally from approaching anyway, so there is no need to aim for rejection.
/r/seduction04/05/13 05:59 PM
9

We don't have a different idea. Lead, escalate, close. Lead - show your ability to lead the interaction, lead men and women. Be prepared for the AMOGs. Escalate - you know what you want and now you must show you are able to drive her, emotionally, sexually, physically (kino). Close - You ran the race, you made all the steps needed, now you need to capitolise on your efforts. There are multiple steps, and multiple levels in which you can close, so make sure you aim high. To achieve this: be your …
/r/seduction04/05/13 03:37 PM
-1

It's a joke mate, calm your farm.
/r/seduction02/05/13 03:09 AM
0

Louis CK disagrees with you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1epZXnss_I
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:41 PM
1

I don't understand why people recommend "The Game" by Neil Strauss, for one, it uses techniques that are out of date, so much so Neil has openly talked about Inner Game being the better option, and secondly it's just a narrative. The subtext is this: Male insecurity, and losing yourself in obsession - What got him the girl is the same thing that made him almost lose the girl. Beyond an elementary level, I don't see anything in that which would indicate that you will get good at picking up girls.
/r/seduction30/04/13 05:35 PM
5

What?
/r/seduction28/04/13 07:26 AM
4

You shouldn't be posting here then.
/r/seduction23/04/13 02:42 AM
9

.# Limitingbelief
/r/seduction22/04/13 07:36 AM
-3

No. Not with that shitty attitude.
/r/seduction18/04/13 05:10 AM
-2

I'm pretty sure they teach this stuff at school.
/r/seduction18/04/13 05:05 AM
-2

I'm like 50% sure this is a troll.
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:40 AM
2

This is what you're thinking; "If I approach, and I fail, she's going to think I'm a chump, my friends are gonna think i'm a loser, everyone is gonna watch me because it's gonna be wierd, and I'll have a bad reputation.. OH FUCK I'm not going to approach." This is what is actually happening: All your friends who have spotted her subliminally want to fuck her. None of them have the balls to approach. She doesn't know you exist. No one is paying attention to you. If your approach her, and you are …
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:36 AM
1

When repeating something, there is no such thing as a "Cliche". In the end it's how you get there, and how you deliver. If you want to be so different, and original, to break new ground - you aren't really doing pick up.
/r/seduction14/04/13 05:11 PM
1

Not that I'm a big fan, but have you tried the sidebar?
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:07 PM
1

Yeah, I'm not gonna answer that here. THeres plenty of content out there you can read up on.
/r/seduction14/04/13 02:12 PM
1

There's a rule for opening that I figured out, and my friend shortly after figured out. It works great when you have a blank, or when you're mind is rushing, or when you NEED to talk to a girl, and the timing isn't perfect, but you need it any way. The rule goes something like this; SAY ANYTHING. Honestly, you can meet all sorts of great, wonderful people. If she's not interested, or a bitch, you'll know soon enough. If she's cool, and friendly, this will also show through.
/r/seduction14/04/13 02:11 PM
1

Dude, this isn't a quiz. I'm not saying "pick one, and you get 10 points if you're right."
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:41 AM
1

You really need to work on your questions. Because the answer is yes, now message them and get the next step happen.
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:40 AM
2

You are applying logic to something you don't understand. A dangerous method. So "disqualifying" is you saying "hey, I've been walking in circled and I need to find the science building, do you know where it is? ... Cool thanks. By the way, you seem reslly friendly, I'm *name * by the way, what are you doing out here?..."
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:37 AM
1

Qualification is pretty much a filter, where you give yourself the ability to cast judgement, but don't necessarily. "I'm a huge fan of really nice girls, how would you describe yourself in 5 traits, other than your looks?" "What are three things everybody should know about you." "If you could go anywhere in the world, where would you go and why?" You can cater questions to find the girl you want, but do you see how you're allowing the girl to talk about herself but in the same sense you are not…
/r/seduction13/04/13 06:02 PM
2

By practicing and learning from your mistakes.
/r/seduction13/04/13 05:14 PM
1

Is your problem texting, or escalating in person? Your question is not clear.
/r/seduction13/04/13 05:12 PM
1

Try talking to your parents. We don't know them, so we can't speak on their behalf.
/r/seduction13/04/13 05:11 PM
2

What steps have you taken to begin?
/r/seduction13/04/13 05:11 PM
2

The best way to get a waitress is to be different. VERY different. I only know 2 ways to make this work. (Contextual) if a waitress is having a shit time, and you can see it, get her to serve you. When she takes your order, step it up, ask her what she would order. Swap places, let her sit and take a break (insist) Take it a level above, what does she want now, it can be ANYTHING, not even on the menu. What meal does she want? Awesome, you got an answer, now go find her manager and tell them tha…
/r/seduction13/04/13 05:10 PM
1

You need to learn how to write questions better. I am utterly confused about the relevance of the first half about you going into interactions wanting relationships, and what that has to do with your question about how to get a number/day 2. What are you asking?
/r/seduction13/04/13 05:07 PM
2

Yes.
/r/seduction13/04/13 05:01 PM
6

To preface, your reasoning for not meeting people is absolute bullshit. I've met plenty of people in rut male dominated faculties who do well. Wanna know why? Because they don't make excuses, and they do shit with themselves. Join socities, clubs, and go to events. No one cares that you do IT if you're cool. One of my good friends dresses well, hangs out with a group of Design girls, and even hooked up a friend - why? Because he's cool, and doesn't give a shit. OH and he's doing, you guessed it;…
/r/seduction13/04/13 11:56 AM
1

I get what you're getting at, and I'll often have 12 hour periods where I am not happy at all. The easiest way, I have found to get over this is to be healthy and build a life that is busy with a variety of things that interests YOU. When you have activities you can look forward to and enjoy (preferably social activities), you are able to improve your state within a very short amount of time. You'll go from hard core rejections, to meeting cool girls within a 24 hour period, and go from "I want …
/r/seduction13/04/13 10:04 AM
2

I don't understand your question. As per the first half of your sentence, It is contextual. If there is a girl walking to somewhere, I know that she is likely in between classes, or something she has planned, so I need to give her a compelling reason to stop. This is where I think direct works magic. If it's more casual, ie. sitting around, I seemingly have a lot more time, so being indirect is easier, though that's not to say direct isn't applicable either. Other than that, I don't understand y…
/r/seduction13/04/13 09:59 AM
5

Best way to build instant social proof.
/r/seduction13/04/13 09:55 AM
1

By walking up to her and saying "Hey". There are so many scenarios in which you can use justified, and varying levels of direct to talk to them.
/r/seduction13/04/13 09:54 AM
1

Depends. You sound more like you're asking for validation. If you qualify correctly, you can do anything.
/r/seduction13/04/13 09:51 AM
1

Don't do this.
/r/seduction13/04/13 09:51 AM
2

As a general rule (especially if you're asking this question), the answer is "no". If you see someone on the street (for example), and they're about their normal day, they have little reason to look at you while about their day, and waiting for eye contact is likely to result in you waiting ALL day. So to reiterate, the answer is "no", approach anyway.
/r/seduction13/04/13 09:46 AM
3

I would be very interested in seeing the entire transcript. You are a Rockstar.
/r/seduction03/04/13 04:03 AM
6

You should improve on your communication.
/r/seduction31/03/13 02:06 PM
1

Y'know that 3 day shit? Yeah that was written in the 80's, where they didn't have internet, mobile phones, where rotary phones were still a thing. You wait as long as you want, but theres no problem with sending it the day after or the night of (assuming you weren't... Clingy) As per setting up the next meetup, whenever works, whenever you want to. If i really like someone, and vice versa, As much as possible as soon as. Where as if I think someones cool and I'm not sure, probably whenever We ha…
/r/seduction31/03/13 08:40 AM
15

Y'know all that "three days" wait rule and stuff? Yeah, ALL BULLSHIT. That was from a book written in the 80s that doesn't take into account, internet, mobile phones, or dial pad phones. Text him when he's likely to read it. Ie, not in the middle of a meal or heavy work hours, but no, the best time is whenever makes sense. If you aren't/weren't crazy or desperate when would you send a message? That's when.
/r/seduction31/03/13 08:26 AM
6

To send a text, that includes; Who you are, A statement of affirmation (possibly. Reference to something you talked about, or mentiomed) A question to lead into conversation. This is a basic start. It will get you into conversation without seeming desperate or boring.
/r/seduction31/03/13 08:18 AM
1

That doesn't get the nervousness out, it's how you broadcast your nervousness. It takes an active practice to STOP doing the nervous display in order to display a passive/automatic confidence. Just be careful not to step in your own bullshit.
/r/seduction31/03/13 08:07 AM
9

You've given barely any details of your interaction, but if he hasn't contacted you move on. You should probably have traded numbers, so you both have an avenue for communication.
/r/seduction31/03/13 08:05 AM
20

If she's 29, why did you call her a MILF? That's like calling you a senior citizen at 42.
/r/seduction30/03/13 06:14 PM
1

I swapped the numbers. This should be better.
/r/seduction28/03/13 05:16 PM
16

What you are referring to is "Pre-selection" it goes off the simple notion that other female(s) have already "Selected" you, and thus, you are already a suitable partner to... mate. For those derp faces who are about to chime in, this does not include men. Showing up at a bar with 4 male friends is a good way to say "I probably don't know how to talk to women (Hence I'm with none), so don't bother approaching" where as showing up with 4 female friends says the EXACT opposite, and obvious prompts…
/r/seduction28/03/13 05:14 PM
4

I went to Adam Lyon's bootcamp, I can definitely recommend it, and if you can see through a lot of the marketing, and you put in the effort, it's well worthwhile, it's more of an investment, than it is just a course. I'll explain as I go. To answer your questions... He briefly mentioned towards the end that the bootcamp is more designed to make you "Not bad", rather than "good". This is about breaking habbits, and developing good ones. Months after the bootcamp I was obsessed. I dropped everythi…
/r/seduction17/03/13 01:58 PM
4

It's a pretty good place that you actually know where your sticking point is; What I DON'T know, is what the ***k to say after the openings. This is not bad news. This is actually the SECOND most common sticking point after AA (for obvious reason). I have more good news; you're wrong. In the process of thinking of something "interesting" and saying nothing considering you've come up with nothing, you're being boring. You need to set goals that are achievable, rather than live vicariously as this…
/r/seduction08/03/13 03:04 PM
1

I was about to say exactly this. Thanks for beating me to it :)
/r/seduction28/02/13 01:31 AM
2

He didn't get an advance for the game. The idea for a book wasn't suggested until after all the events.
/r/seduction27/02/13 04:40 PM
5

The book didn't come until the end. It was initially a few small articles, then a Rolling Stones article, and once he had collated everything (FRs, notes, recordings, articles, etc) he was then approached to write a book by his publisher. Most of his money came from workshops, and the writing he did in between. He interviews Britney Spears in the book. That's a paid job.
/r/seduction27/02/13 04:40 PM
1

Fair enough. Have you thought about just inviting her out for coffee to chat about something you two might have in common, and escalating from there?
/r/seduction09/02/13 05:25 PM
1

Why is it slow?
/r/seduction09/02/13 04:52 PM
17

Thanks for all the details we don't have that might help us actually give you an answer. Lead, escalate, close.
/r/seduction09/02/13 02:21 PM
1

I'm desperately confused by why anyone should listen to this... Could you elaborate?
/r/seduction07/02/13 12:48 PM
5

Actually this very well could have been a shit test. If he responded with something needy or desperate, she could then know that he's not really able to "hold his own". Though I don't like either of your responses. Yours is beta-tastic, and his is boring. EDIT: I would have said something like "I've watched enough Bear Grylls to know what to do." Not putting myself down, humour, #yolo EDIT2: The hashtag is a joke.
/r/seduction07/02/13 06:09 AM
5

The answer is "Yes" you can. Sometimes it works out great, sometimes it doesn't work out at all. Just because everyone else is socially retarded, it doesn't mean you have to be a part of the peanut gallery and be like the rest.
/r/seduction07/02/13 05:19 AM
1

Like I said "rather subjective". Theres a powerful notion to thinking that a guy is having sex with EVERYBODY, and if the self declarance of "Oh no, she's just my friend" is the start of things, then a lot of that pre-selection is nullified. Again, subjective, you obviously prefer a more direct approach, some people will grant you that, others won't.
/r/seduction02/02/13 04:42 AM
7

The gay guy with 20 female friends, is still hotter than the straight guy with 9 guy friends.
/r/seduction02/02/13 04:40 AM
1

Pre-selection isn't Jealousy. And no; OP's original post doesn't mention Pre-selection once.
/r/seduction02/02/13 12:07 AM
2

You're simplifying female cheating to a numbers game - it's not. It's actually an emotional starvation 99% of the time.
/r/seduction02/02/13 12:06 AM
0

"Get out of the house" means leave the relationship.
/r/seduction02/02/13 12:05 AM
3

Going out with 2-3 girls is awesome. If you can go out with more girls, even better. The guy who brings 1 girl with him beats the guy who goes with none. They guy who goes with 20 girls with him beats everyone.
/r/seduction01/02/13 11:35 PM
1

This isn't actually great advice, it's rather subjective. In some cases, the great thing about pre-selection is it does so many things, including makes people wonder who that girl is to you. For all they know she may be your significant other, friend from work, or cousin - they won't know. The power of this is that it generally takes away the pressure from approaching, and being approached. In some cases, that mystery gives you HUGE bonus points. If you're indicating that you're a lowly single g…
/r/seduction01/02/13 11:34 PM
57

Bring girls out with you. When I read your title, all I could think of was "pre-selection, pre-selection, pre-selection..." This is the simple concept that you have already been "selected" by other females and deemed worthy. Why do you think married men get hit on? Why do guys who have a group of girls attract more girls than a group of guys? Pre selection. OP hints on it, but if you just bring 1 girl out with you, instantly more attractive.
/r/seduction01/02/13 02:48 PM
84

Get out of the house. This is a huge red flag.
/r/seduction01/02/13 02:34 PM
2

If what you are telling us is all that you do, keep doing it, you're fine. In fact, a lot of seddit could take a lesson in body language from you. If you are being arrogant, or patronising without realising, then yes, tone it down.
/r/seduction24/01/13 12:17 PM
-2

You can do basic kino escalation, but if you want to escalate without the pressure, you can do something called "isolation"! :D Take her to the bar, outside for a smoke, to the balcony, to check out something cool, walk in the park, grab a kebab, list goes on!
/r/seduction23/01/13 01:10 PM
3

Serious question, how "extreme" is the porn you watch? Are we talking about simple b/g, bjs, and penetration? Or are we dealing with some much heavier more obscure shit? The reason I ask is because porn can screw up how your brain gets off, it rewires the levels of extremities that is needed to be turned on because of the absolutely enormous stimulation bombardment. If this is the case, check /r/nofap . If that's not the case, lead in slower, discover each other some more, allow a more tantric e…
/r/seduction23/01/13 01:01 PM
3

Progress doesn't come from a belief of lesser self worth. Once you accept who and what you are, that is when you can then ascend to the levels above. In the documentary "Jiro Dreams of Sushi", there is a perfect example; Jiro is the world's undisputed best sushi chef (forget the technical term), though through his discipline and mastery, he seeks greater, and new things. He doesn't think that he is unworthy or that he must supplicate to anyone, yet he is always in the pursuit of perfection.
/r/seduction19/01/13 09:31 AM
1

It depends on what you want. But first, fix your English.
/r/seduction15/01/13 07:27 AM
2

I haven't felt too dissimilar to what you've described, and the solution for me was simple; take time off, focus on me. Often seduction falls into improving yourself, and meeting others, but in coming to grips with improving yourself I lost sight of what I wanted professionally, and academically. Some time later, after some great projects have come about, I found my own passions drawing others towards me. Sometimes, actively chasing it is what causes the roadblock like feelings when ideally you …
/r/seduction15/01/13 07:23 AM
15

While reading this, all I could think is; "Are you an aspiring writer?"
/r/seduction12/01/13 10:00 PM
1

I want to address something that isn't the question first; you. Theres a strange, so close, yet so far vibe from you - this can be good or bad. You suggest that you're needy for writing down on a piece of scrap paper... No you're not, that's resourceful. You also are overanalysing things to the point where you suspect it's an IOI, where 1, probably should 't matter, and 2, if you haven't figured it out yet, probably not. And this also goes for the question about "what does this mean?" Seriously?…
/r/seduction12/01/13 09:56 PM
1

Adam Lyons. He'll teach you how to pick up anyone, strippers, models (at one point he was with Ms Sweden). It'll cost you a lot, but you will come out anew.
/r/seduction09/01/13 06:39 AM
1

If you are ready to dump your money into learning seduction, don't take it from a single book and guys who may or may not be any good. I have seen some coaches who charge henous amounts of money with unjustified credentials and testimonials from themselves. I respect you taking the steps to move forward, up and ahead, but be careful not to be knocked off course because you get in with the wrong or illinformed people. There are some tried and true guys out there who can (for varying amounts of mo…
/r/seduction04/01/13 12:33 PM
2

As someone who finds it difficult to have anything but an infinite conversation with most people I meet, there are some basics you should work with: Topics: Commonalities: These are used to build rapport, so that she can feel that connection because you have stuff in common. Some good conversation topics to find commonalities are: Work (every high value girl is or wants to do something with themselves.) -Hobbies (Every high value girl does something for fun) Travel (most people in major cities h…
/r/seduction04/01/13 12:21 PM
5

Watching this was painful.
/r/seduction03/01/13 05:45 PM
1

You're safe, just don't regurgitate everything you hear and read, and you'll be fine.
/r/seduction28/12/12 06:16 AM
-7

She actually sounds like a royal stuck up bitch. If it wasn't for her cuntface attitude, she probably would get less douche bags come her way.
/r/seduction28/12/12 06:15 AM
1

No, I'm just downvoting the dumb posts.
/r/seduction27/12/12 03:11 PM
1

I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing let alone, to the same people...
/r/seduction27/12/12 02:43 PM
2

Practice is what he needs to do to be funny, not hitting the wall with your head until it stops bleeding. Fake it ti'll you make it is not the same as proper attention to detail. I don't get much out of insulting a girl for humor. I've been there, and it's cheap, and doesn't take any level of sophistication to do that. Having someone pee themselves a little bit is short of common for me, but certainly not a rarity, and this is more or less achieved (in my case) by just being genuine and taking e…
/r/seduction27/12/12 02:27 PM
2

Not OP. EDIT: also I don't see how "Fake it ti'll you make it" applies to your suggestion.
/r/seduction27/12/12 02:09 PM
3

Funny isn't a MUST in the overall seduction process, but having a good sense of humor can be the game changer. Start with (Not making excuses), then: Identify where your short falls are. - Do you make lame jokes that kill the mood? Do you just have no idea what to say? Are your thoughts too serious? If you're not 100% sure it's okay, but this helps for the next step; Take comedy classes. Seriously, you will learn so much from these. You will be taught to look at things in new ways, how to analys…
/r/seduction27/12/12 02:08 PM
3

I agree to an extent, but this isn't something you can do multiple times (unless you want to seem like a deaf idiot), and for someone new (Most likely OP), who is probably nervous, a little red faced, heart racing, palms sweaty - how are they going to think of what to say and act at the same time? Food for thought.
/r/seduction27/12/12 02:03 PM
3

i know everything No you don't. This is called arrogance. Confidence is something you find in yourself. You can be confident because you have great relationships and friends, you can be confident because you have been convinced that you're awesome, you can be confident because you are incompetant but have convinced yourself otherwise, you can be confident because of so many different things. There isn't really much knowledge on "How to approach", you just walk up to someone and start speaking. "…
/r/seduction27/12/12 06:03 AM
35

Work at it. You need to practice. Your personality, the things you do, will only work to get you women when you apply them. You will learn what to do, and what not to do through practice, and hindsight. Yes, set goals for yourself, it's crucial so that you can see your limits (at the time), and also follow your progress. If you start approaching, and get comfortable, go for a close, once the numbers are too easy, start trying to get dates/insta-dates (SO MUCH BETTER) and push yourself further, a…
/r/seduction21/12/12 03:33 AM
1

Thanks for down-voting me despite you being wrong. Real Alpha.
/r/seduction12/12/12 03:36 AM
1

It says "Touching each individual woman in some (non-creepy) fashion will ensure you start to connect better with each one. This is called gaining rapport..." Not true. Touching someone builds 0 rapport, this is called Kino, and it hells builds comfort and helps to build attraction. Rapport is a mutual understanding of something. If I touch your leg, we don't magically gain a mutual understanding of a common topic.
/r/seduction12/12/12 12:18 AM
1

He didn't cock block you. That would have involved chatting her up, or ruining the conversation, you just put too much pressure on her. If you don't know know how to deal with someone like that, it's the same way you AMOG someone. You just give them a deflated conversation so they, and everyone else in the room think they're shit at talking. When he comments about art, sincerely say "cool." and leave it. When he asks a question respond in the shortest way possible. When she gave you her name, th…
/r/seduction11/12/12 01:18 PM
1

The more you write, the more I think you're just making this up as you go. You seek so much validation it's a joke.
/r/seduction10/12/12 07:54 AM
1

This is called an "opinion", and it means I am allowed to disagree with you and call your bullshit. You are not the font of all knowledge.
/r/seduction10/12/12 04:19 AM
1

You clearly aren't a writer. 1. You are misinterpreting my comment. I said you are making an unfair generalisation - this doesn't deny the statement, but rather says "you're a bit shit for thinking you can class an entire profession." 2. You don't know what introvert means. Introvert doesn't mean socially uncalibrated, shy, weak, etc. you're thinking of socially retarded. I have met some amazingly well connected introverts. They haven't defied the odds against their personality type, they just h…
/r/seduction09/12/12 11:48 PM
2

That's a really unfair generalisation.
/r/seduction09/12/12 06:53 AM
2

you want to write as well? What medium? As far as seduction, you just gotta do it. Make friends who have active lifestyles and join in. If you're constantly going to events and meeting people your skills and chances of meeting someone go up WAY higher. Also the more friends you have, the more birthdays you go to. Also, never stop. Always meet people, always be the best you can. I have been the victim of "ehh.. I'll do it later" if you catch yourself making excuses, it means you should probably d…
/r/seduction09/12/12 06:19 AM
1

Cool. About writing, seduction, or having solid goals when talking with the opposite sex?
/r/seduction09/12/12 05:05 AM
1

I don't think he's looking for an excuse.
/r/seduction09/12/12 04:49 AM
3

I write, and I'm financially fine. Don't get me wrong, I didn't want to be deluded while I chased my dreams, I have had the same thought about financial security. However if you honestly have only one true passion, and you're going to let it pass by, then (I'm not really talking from a seduction point of view any more) you're honestly setting yourself up for a long road of upsetting hindsight. There's nothing wrong with having hobbies, and having passions is even better. If you want to talk abou…
/r/seduction09/12/12 04:23 AM
5

To answer your TL;DR, yes, but it's harder. Females are very good judges of character, they can see potential. I have known of girls with guys in dead end situations, but in the end, it's one of the most resentful things from the relationship. A better question would be, what's holding you back from doing/discovering what you actually want to do?
/r/seduction09/12/12 03:00 AM
1

I was talking to a good friend of mine who had gone on a bootcamp a year prior to my own (we had different instructors). My friend's boot camp was run quite differently, in that he had less methodical "PUA" instructors than my own, one instructor of whom had never tried "Game" material. His way of differentiating between a Natural, and the guys who want to be good with women, but aren't, then go to game and learn it that way is experience. A Natural has hundreds of (if not more) hours of experie…
/r/seduction08/12/12 06:33 PM
1

Why not?
/r/seduction08/12/12 06:24 PM
3

Limiting belief right here. These (people), you don't want.
/r/seduction08/12/12 06:24 PM
1

A bit late, but you can actually make some great relationships from insta-dates. It's the only way to really do day game and have something "Lasting" without pot luck or craziness attached.
/r/seduction08/12/12 04:00 AM
1

How are you asking for the number? Perhaps they don't like you, give us more details. You should be aiming for success and not just coping methods with failure.
/r/seduction22/11/12 01:26 PM
1

What's wrong with me too? If you want, just tack on a bit of an experience to relate to it. That's what rapport essentially is... an mutual understanding of the same thing.
/r/seduction19/11/12 04:37 PM
4

One thing you can actually do to improve is either, Don't ask, just dance. This is Leading. You can do this completely non-verbally, by taking their hand and spinning them around. Secondly, if you want to ask them to dance, have a reason. It's programmed in us to just give in to reason, no matter how petty. "Hey, do you want to dance, you look interesting/got some moves/know how to strut your stuff?" etc
/r/seduction19/11/12 06:53 AM
1

I do agree that it is a legit question, but what you're going about is more or less the inverse of what you should be doing. The thing you should be doing isn't killing lady boners, but rather you should be hooking up friends together. Have a girlfriend that you don't want to cheat on, despite that hot friend of yours showing interest? Communicate to her that you are committed, BUT you have a friend that will get along like PB & J, and if they end up hooking up they'll love you forever (Or until…
/r/seduction05/11/12 04:41 PM
0

I am confused. Is this a holiday, or a pick up adventure? Because if this is a holiday, just have fun. If you're going to go to another country just to practice pickup, you're an idiot.
/r/seduction24/09/12 01:33 PM
2

I think you're missing the point. There are certain things that are simply not inherently engaging. So what if you asked a more engaging version of a regular question, what about the rest of the interaction? you're looking at a small fraction that probably won't have an impact at all.
/r/seduction24/09/12 05:25 AM
1

Well that said, most people in Hong Kong speak English, albeit, shit English, but it's better than none. There isn't that much difference, women are still women.
/r/seduction24/09/12 04:11 AM
1

Are you Asian or Caucasian? Also are you good looking? This helps considering people from Hong Kong are a lot more shallow than China in general.
/r/seduction24/09/12 03:58 AM
1

What would you like to know?
/r/seduction24/09/12 03:46 AM
1

Make new friends. This doesn't mean you have to abandon what you have, but there is nothing wrong with having more.
/r/seduction23/09/12 03:31 PM
2

Pretty much, if you're white, you're at a disadvantage. The locals will be a lot more intrigued by your appearance, but honestly - good luck getting laid. Being an English Speaking Asian however, throw your clothes out and just pack condoms and lube.
/r/seduction23/09/12 03:28 PM
2

Why don't you just tell the truth? When I tell people I do "writing" it's because I'm proud of it, and it can help build rapport (you may be surprised by how many people are secretly repressed writers) and find mutual friends.
/r/seduction23/09/12 02:05 PM
3

The answer to your question is; "yes". Being more physically fit makes people treat you better, it makes you healthier, which also impacts your mental well being. Following that it also makes you happier, and knowing that you look good allows you to focus on other parts of your life without the issue of your physical image. Also if you REALLY get into pick up, you'll find it's actually a very physically demanding activity. I have seen the differences between someone who is fit who appraoches and…
/r/seduction19/09/12 11:53 AM
2

I can't really give you any specific advice seeing as I do it off instinct - most likely from experience. Try starting with that; practice. When I started all this, I used to have some serious heavy heart beats when approaching, though people would say I didn't have AA. As of late, when I approach, fuckin' nothin'. This is because approaches have become a normalised part of my social capabilities. The more you do, the simpler it becomes. Because of this I am able to focus on different things rat…
/r/seduction17/09/12 10:25 PM
2

Actually the opposite. Most 9-10s rarely get approached ever. I had a 1 minute conversation and a number close talking to a 9 just yesturday. You're just acting different, probably without knowing it.
/r/seduction17/09/12 12:30 PM
4

No.
/r/seduction17/09/12 11:58 AM
1

This is a subjective matter, for people, and your relationships (go captain obvious!). In a situation where all parties want to get laid, no, it's fine. You probably won't see each other again. In a situation where you are seeking a full blown relationship, this is pretty critical. If you set out a standard (beyond looks - eg. Non-smoker, caring, modest) if you compromise one of those, you have no basis for any arguement ever. Theres plenty of stuff in between and it all boils down to your own j…
/r/seduction15/09/12 11:52 AM
3

-David Wygant
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:03 PM
0

I am concerned you don't actually know what rapport is.
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:02 PM
0

Wow, you're talking out of your ass.. Rapport is super fucking important. It's what makes us feel connected to others, it's what gives us reasons to see other people more than once or stay there. If you seriously think that pick up is based on some kind of "Phase" method, then you should see a doctor.
/r/seduction10/09/12 05:38 PM
1

You're right in assuming that you should be your best self, you're (in general) a lot more attractive when you're the best you can possibly be (or heading in that direction). Females are significantly better at reading potential than guys, and this is why it's important. But to say "This is what you should do. Period." Is silly. For some it's enough, but what's wrong with being able to seduce women too? In the end Pick up IMO is about three things: -Being a more attractive male -Being more socia…
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:04 PM
1

Why not have both?
/r/seduction06/09/12 02:57 PM
2

Right, but I don't see how that get's you anywhere. I started when I was 16, but it was too hard, so I stopped until earlier this year where I started again. Though I learnt from someone who didn't start ti'll he was 25, and now he's a world class PUA. On that same note, I know people who have been chewing through material since they were 18 who are now my age, and they've made no ground what so ever.
/r/seduction02/09/12 03:22 PM
1

Solution: you turn around, and talk to her.
/r/seduction02/09/12 03:20 PM
1

Other than when I started, I don't know what you're asking me beyond that. Could you please clarify?
/r/seduction02/09/12 03:14 PM
1

I don't know what you're asking but really... what is a "passing and turning around" approach? Like seriously, what is it? Is it any different than walking directly to a shop, and seeing a girl walking perpendicular, and approaching her? What about if you're walking in the same direction and she's ahead of you? It doesn't matter, as long as you're not a creeper or wierd, you'll get by.
/r/seduction02/09/12 03:13 PM
1

Yes, that's one whole line. From here, I'd generally ask them what they're up to. There are a plethora of things you can go to.
/r/seduction02/09/12 03:11 PM
1

20, this was last month.
/r/seduction02/09/12 03:02 PM
1

Pretty much. I now use something like, "Hey I just wanted to let you know that I think you're absolutely stunning, and wanted to talk to you." or... "I think you're super cute, and was thinking of asking you out if you're cool, so I came over to find out." and if they're socially calibrated they'll say something to the effect of "Thank you." From here, you just qualify, build rapport, and try to have fun.
/r/seduction02/09/12 03:01 PM
1

The thing is, if you walk passed someone, and then turn around to stop them, it's VERY likely they didn't see you the first time (unless you're tall, super stylish, loud, or ridiculously good looking). So running up to them, stopping them and talking to them is in PRINCIPAL (which is where Mystery is coming from), not a good practice, but in reality, can be a great thing. "Never let the hot ones go." are the words I was left with. It's better you turn around and open, than it is walk passed, rea…
/r/seduction02/09/12 02:55 PM
1

Your interaction is more than an opener. I once opened with "Hey, you have this tear in your stockings, and I have no idea if it's intentional or not..." "It's not." "Oh, well, either way, I think it's kinda cool, and a little bit sexy..." We hung out, she invited me back to hang with her friends, easy number swap, easy isolation, made out with her infront of her friends. Sexual interest comes from what you do, not just the beginning, but also the middle.
/r/seduction02/09/12 02:49 PM
1

I'll compliment her on anything that I see fitting (usually depending on time, and place). I've also gone for "Absolutely gorgeous" "super cute", "Ridiculously stunning", "beautiful"< girlfriend closed that.
/r/seduction02/09/12 02:47 PM
1

I wasn't even talking about at night, and I'm adamant most people here are talking about day (considering direct is more often practiced during the day). As per what I said prior, the community has made huge progress since "The Game", and Mystery is no longer "the best", nor the most progressive. The reason he gets away with charging $5, 000 is because of the name he carries from that epic tale. So you quoting him really means fuck all to me, seeing as there are some PUA's out there who have mad…
/r/seduction02/09/12 08:43 AM
1

If I open with a compliment, I move off it straight the fuck away. The difference between a guy who is just complimenting and me, is that I meant it, but it doesn't define me. I'm not a guy who needs to give them, but I did because I wanted to - but what about the rest of her? Something like "Hey, you've got this tear in your stockings, and I have no idea if it's intentional or not, but it's kinda cool, and a little bit sexy" End of compliment. I hope this helps.
/r/seduction02/09/12 08:01 AM
1

Complimenting her is kind of the point of direct opening. If you don't want to put her on a pedestal, revert back to push-pull. You don't have to juts throw words at her face, you can engage her with something like: "Hey, I saw you from over there, and you have this awesome style, I love how you've got this casual punk look, I wanted to come talk to you and see if you were cool..." In a nutshell: Frame, and qualify.
/r/seduction02/09/12 07:58 AM
1

You're quoting from ONE person who is no where near as progressive as where the community has gone in years gone by. Where Mystery is arguably better than EVERYONE here, he isn't infalliable, and there are undoubtedly better and more refined methods as to how to game women in a variety of circumstances that Mystery hasn't considered. In the game is also this idea that you get the number, then get the fuck out - don't stick around. Surprise, it's been debunked, staying is actually statistically m…
/r/seduction02/09/12 07:55 AM
1

Honestly, you might be surprised, where this is amazing, how effective she is as a wing woman really boils down to her traits (beyond physical). Is she going to talk you up without you even hinting at it, is she going to throw things out to increase your value and have more things to talk about, open sets for you, etc. BUT ultimately, the hotter the better. Hot girls have hot friends.
/r/seduction28/08/12 02:32 PM
1

It's not the magic he does that makes him good at getting women, it's the experience of entertaining... Or at least I think it is. Having met the magicians he often associates with they actually have a burning hate for people who learn from them JUST to use it to pick up women - so out of respect for their art, I keep the magic they teach me away from pick up related stuff. Qualification is the most important thing you can do, it pretty much demonstrates why you're the prize, why she is worth yo…
/r/seduction23/08/12 03:28 PM
1

Good teasing is contextual, and it's not insulting, but verging. It's difficult to give you an example for your situation (because it's contextual), but a simple one is the opposite choice: "Hey, I'm kinda stuck. Should I go for the chocolate and peanut, or vanilla swirl?" "Oh, get the chocolate, it's soo good!" "awesome, vanilla swirl it is."
/r/seduction23/08/12 12:51 PM
0

Are you just trying to sell us shit here on reddit?
/r/seduction23/08/12 12:48 PM
1

Theres this magician I know, and he is amazing when it comes to compliance and insta-hookups. From what I have learnt from watching him is have fun, kino up the ladder as fast as possible until you hit resistance and then go back and try again, and be clear with your intentions. You can probably take out the last one, but if you just have fun, and kino friggin' fast, shit will probably go your way. Edit: newbies need to know this: have fun, kino, escalate, lead, but most importantly qualify. Tha…
/r/seduction23/08/12 12:46 PM
-3

Please, share your genius and experience of methods that come from world class pick up artists. Go on.
/r/seduction22/08/12 01:20 PM
-6

This is one of the most misogynistic things I've ever read from anyone in /r/seduction. Well done, you just took the cake.
/r/seduction22/08/12 12:56 PM
-5

I don't actually know because in general, people don't lie to me.
/r/seduction22/08/12 12:43 PM
0

It doesn't have to be deep in the slightest. But if you want to qualify someone, you need to find out why they do what they do.
/r/seduction22/08/12 12:13 PM
3

It's called qualification. Pretty much you're talking to people to find out their beliefs, their stances, and outlooks on life. Pretty much you're exploring the "Why" of people, "Why" they do what they do in life. Examples being: If you want to help people, why don't you just do it instead of use another 3 years of your life at college/university? So I have this friend who's really into sex, she loves it - arguably she's a nymphomaniac. If she's not having her needs met by her man, do you think …
/r/seduction22/08/12 11:50 AM
2

Yes, because this problem of yours with no context provided is going to be easily diagnosed. Try again.
/r/seduction21/08/12 04:52 AM
2

You practice being a better person. Don't assume because you had an uninhibited night of alcoholic antics that you are like this ALL the time with drinks. By actually being a useful person, you can easily get over being a douche when it comes to social interactions. All in all, you're over thinking it.
/r/seduction21/08/12 04:51 AM
2

What you are missing is; Kino, and rapport (to act on).
/r/seduction19/08/12 04:06 PM
0

I get the feeling you don't have many female friends.
/r/seduction19/08/12 06:19 AM
0

I think your simplification of people in general is pretty lame. Especially considering negs now play a rather small role in this community, yet you act as they are a necessity. This is high horse 101.
/r/seduction19/08/12 05:53 AM
1

If you meet someone and pretend to stab them - 0 comfort immediately. If a girl you've never met is about to fall, and you catch her, fucktonnes of comfort. Does this mean you just got friendzoned by the falling girl? No. But if you want the time to interact and talk with the girl, you need comfort in order to BUILD attraction. Nuff said.
/r/seduction19/08/12 03:37 AM
1

This place is falling to shit as to how generalised shit is. Most of my friends are female, (preselection mofucker), and I talk to super hot girls ALL the time. Some are naturally up themselves, and it doesn't take long to make them realise why/what they've made a mistake with if they give me attitude (especially if I"m giving value), and if they're completely cool, there isn't a need to neg. So no. You are not right in categorising people in two two classes.
/r/seduction19/08/12 03:35 AM
1

My ultimate poiny is that negs are nowhere near as powerful or necessary as you make them out to be. Giving value is (in my opinion) the best thing possible. I am too liquired up to writ further.
/r/seduction18/08/12 04:47 PM
2

Dafuq?
/r/seduction18/08/12 04:45 PM
1

As soon as you meet them. Comfort makes them fine with you being there, and the more you have, the more they allow you to do things with them. Rapport makes her connect and gives her reason to stay in contact if you so choose.
/r/seduction18/08/12 04:19 PM
1

Not true. Firstly, potentially wierd as fuck. I wouldn't share a drink with a girl unless it was water or she just wanted to try it. So many girls want you to buy them a drink, but if you can have a good long conversation with them, it's not a shit test, it's just you being reciprocative. If you talk for 30 minutes, she's not using you for a drink.
/r/seduction18/08/12 12:46 PM
1

This is not a number one rule. This is useful for defeating AA, but sometimes time makes opportunities that opening is easier or better. Also if you want to work a room, for a girl 3 second rule doesn't work. Neither does it for entourage game. Or meta-game.
/r/seduction18/08/12 12:17 PM
1

The issue I am actually seeing is your lack of qualification. You are given information, and without question your are taking it as truth, which would explain why you are such a fervent beleiver in negs (because you were told so). I think after the quote, this is exemplified by the fact that you think attraction works in universal "phases".
/r/seduction18/08/12 12:14 PM
9

Have fun, be confident, qualify.
/r/seduction18/08/12 11:06 AM
1

Yeah, that's because everyone else does it. Rapport is important, but you need to think outside the box, be a little bit more risque, obscure, let yourself out. Let them know something really interesting about you, and ask at least 1 question.
/r/seduction18/08/12 10:40 AM
1

It actually does bring value down, It isn't neutral, nor does it bring your value up. I do not see how using a backhanded comment will reveal that you have a higher value. Though your field experience makes sense. I am not against negs period, but I am against them being used when there is no understanding of their use (ie. "We went on a date and had fune. Do I keep negging her?" dafuq?).
/r/seduction18/08/12 10:38 AM
1

What websites/services are you using to meet people online? What are you saying right now?
/r/seduction18/08/12 09:33 AM
-3

Clarification on negging: A neg is used to bring someones value down so yours is higher. A neg is personal, it's directed at someone, you cannot use a neg to work a group or a venue. Personally I would rather increase EVERYONE's value, rather than bring someones down. Just sayin'.
/r/seduction18/08/12 09:31 AM
1

So what is the thing that you found to be holding you back?
/r/seduction18/08/12 05:47 AM
1

There are things about your appearance that you can do to make girls attracted to you. Biologically we are wary of the dirty, smelly, grimy and the different. This, as you have pointed out, is an unfortunate disadvantage. Though improving yourself and your look is NEVER out of your options. You can still dress nice, smell good and maintain your hair, your physique and your social skills. I have seen similar posts, downtalking themselves because of their physical appearance, though because of the…
/r/seduction18/08/12 05:17 AM
1

You sound like you need more rapport. Otherwise, I would be happy with what you have so far.
/r/seduction17/08/12 09:04 AM
2

There's something called qualification, it's the male version of female shit tests. The point is that you are asking people questions to filter out the people you do/don't want to talk to and be around. If this girl likes nothing you like, then why waste your time on her? Much in the same way if a girl shit tests you and you fail dismally, she will probably be like "Bleh, move on buddy".
/r/seduction16/08/12 06:43 AM
4

You are completely welcome here, regardless or gender. In case of difference of opinion, please don't pull the "I'm female, therefore I am right" card. Also good advice, listen to her OP.
/r/seduction15/08/12 03:21 PM
0

And then her new junkie boyfriend will make her take drugs, and you have a new story to tell someone when you misinterpret what they say. Tops.
/r/seduction15/08/12 11:36 AM
0

You are excellent as misinterpretting things and taking the to extremes.
/r/seduction15/08/12 11:27 AM
1

Motivation is all personal, so you ought to figure out a reason for ourself as to why you should get out. Getting pumped up with music, energy drinks (not recommended - you may crash later) and exercise are all good ways to make yourself more biologically confident. Once you understand what an opener is, you'll soon find anything goes. A simple opener is "hello". Giving a sincere compliment, noticing something cool, bringing people into the conversation are all valid ways to open someone. As for…
/r/seduction15/08/12 10:31 AM
1

Did you go to Hawaii for a holiday? If so, have a fun holiday. If you are spending money to travel for a good time, don't irk yourself to pickup, because if you fail, you may be really dissapointed and ruin your own holiday with derpy ass expectations. What you ask of us is kinda impossible, we can't train you in a bunch of reddit posts, you need to have practiced before and found what worked and how it worked. If you go out to be social, have fun and party it up, people will notice. This is wha…
/r/seduction15/08/12 10:11 AM
1

Don't hangout with AMOGs till you're more experienced. Keep experimenting, always escalate, always qualify, and have fun.
/r/seduction15/08/12 09:37 AM
1

Talk to her. No idea what to say right? Anything because you may NEVER see her again. "Hi, i just wanted to say you look absolutely gorgeous and had to meet you, I'm *name *" Or "Hey, you dropped your pocket," Say anything mate.
/r/seduction15/08/12 09:30 AM
6

That was a year ago. You should apply the ancient wise words: "Doesnt matter, had sex."
/r/seduction15/08/12 07:04 AM
0

The opposite actually. Abundance mentality is all about finding people you like. A personable guy (ie. isn't socially retarded) will probably really like 1/10 women he meets, but if you meet 10 people every 6 months, you have that 1 person you like every 6 months, as opposed to meeting 100 people per 6 months and meeting 10 people you actually like. That is abundance mentality, not resting on your laurels simply because you met a cool one. Nothing to do with sex.
/r/seduction15/08/12 07:01 AM
2

Unm.. Sex and Masturbation are not the same. I can jerk one in a couple of minutes but fuck for well over an hour. How old are you?
/r/seduction15/08/12 06:38 AM
0

I disagree, "leave her better than you found her" is OUR way of working, not his. Where it is one of the wisest things from the seduction community, it doesn't mean we must force this onto others (we are not a religion or a cult after all) The smart thing would be to let them break up naturally seeing as OP is so certain she has a disdain for the BF and an interest in him. Stealing girlfriends is a bad practice, especially for AFCs like OP (trust me, he's an AFC, his responses here alone speak v…
/r/seduction15/08/12 06:31 AM
1

Why did you ask "what should I do?" when you have your own opinion set, so much so, you have outright disagreed with all the posts telling you to leave her alone. This would insinuate you're a fucking moron, or a show off.
/r/seduction15/08/12 06:26 AM
1

No. This has NOTHING to do with /r/seduction.
/r/seduction15/08/12 01:19 AM
2

How are you so far? Are number closes puddy, k-closes easy and f-closes a reality?
/r/seduction14/08/12 09:27 AM
1

What do you have against female convicts?
/r/seduction14/08/12 08:00 AM
2

Hate to be a party pooper but everyone is at different places and stages, so it wouldn't make sense for me to say "Use atleast 2 penis jokes and get a street K-close from a new interaction." if someone has amazing club game and no day game.
/r/seduction14/08/12 07:59 AM
1

Oh i see, that works fine but if you want actual crazy ass social proof and pre-selection, that doesn't work. You get this strange almost 1:1.5 female male ratio, which is FINE, but if you want to look really good, 2:1 is ideal (science says so)
/r/seduction14/08/12 06:08 AM
6

Don't drink, practice sober.
/r/seduction14/08/12 06:01 AM
-1

clearly you need to speak to more women.
/r/seduction14/08/12 05:52 AM
6

You be honest with yourself. There is no point in lying to yourself or others about being "awesome", this is just as detached from reality as beating yourself down unecessarily. As per your perpetual lies, it's time to stop, because it is causing you to feel the pressures of expectations that you cannot meet. If you can be honest with others, then you can be honest with yourself, and to great effect - what better reason do you need to change than you? You don't improve your life by hating yourse…
/r/seduction14/08/12 05:50 AM
3

The friend's girlfriend has obvious issue, one being that some people are posessive, you are ostensibly using them and the boyfriend would more than likely want to tag along at some point. Just some other ways of finding wing women; female friends who want a boyfriend. These are easy to convince with something to the extent of "hey let's find you a man and find me a girl, it'll be fun!" cousins. Yep, showing your relatives a good time is pimp and it's really respectable by your family. Just fema…
/r/seduction14/08/12 05:40 AM
1

Try this, Identify your problem to a single word (e.g. anxiety, fear), and imagine a speech bubble above your head. Fill that speech bubble with everything that you associate with that problem. Do this two to three times a day. If you can write it down too. The purpose is to reflect reality, if your speech bubble is full of things that are detached from reality, well now we have identified an issue, and if it's completely grounded, well... You're odd. Ultimately you approaching someone is just a…
/r/seduction13/08/12 04:08 PM
1

As Neil Strauss once said, "The questions you ask reflect you more than the person you are asking them to." It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
/r/seduction13/08/12 12:32 PM
2

I honestly think for the purpose of "motivation", this is going to have a very counter productive result for many people.
/r/seduction13/08/12 08:56 AM
2

"Hey, I think it's great that you have so many memories about him, but we're here together now. I'd rather we create out own than relive his." Or "Yeah, me and my ex were really into roleplaying, i used to make her wear a wizard hat while I toe fucked her. Oh the good times... Awkward and uncomfortable right?" (i'm joking about the second one btw)
/r/seduction13/08/12 06:04 AM
-1

It's LMR.
/r/seduction13/08/12 01:45 AM
3

Having no examples and nothing but a vague description of your issue, there isn't much I can help you with. Ambiguity is not your friend.
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:46 PM
4

Why do you assume it's their job? Why not just put the effort in yourself? It's also what you do. If you sit there sipping beer, what are they going to say to you? If you're there socialising, making people laugh, more people will come to you.
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:29 PM
1

There are some seriously shit responses here. To deal with her LMR, it's about getting her to trust you again. Style does this in the game by "respecting" her by jumping on his laptop and doing work, so she feels somewhat guilty, until she asks for him back. More social methods are also comfort/trust based, such as beating her to the chase "I don't have sex on the first date", or just giving them reasons to trust you.
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:17 PM
0

Not true, it's also known as Last Minute Resistance (LMR), it's covered in The Game and is related to her anti-slut defences. The way around this is to either distance yourself or just talk her down, either way, you're building comfort.
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:14 PM
3

This shameless self promotion makes baby Jesus cry.
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:12 PM
1

It's actually very difficult to become good at seduction when you don't enjoy socialising. I'm going to say that now, because sometimes it takes HOURS from meeting to closing in order to get the result. Beyond dancing, making out, and walking around together, what else do you think fills in the time between? I'm not sure how old you are, but you should stop using "lol" it's really out of place and makes reading your comments kinda awkward. As per charming, humorous and complimentary, this is stu…
/r/seduction12/08/12 11:56 AM
1

Joke around... probably not. Make her laugh and smile, absolutely essential.
/r/seduction12/08/12 11:49 AM
2

Sincerity is powerful, honesty is dangerous.
/r/seduction12/08/12 10:38 AM
1

I'm not sure why you assume being silly and goofy is the proper way to go about things. You can be serious, and charming, humorous and complimentary all the while being very good at seduction. You don't sound like an introvert in the slightest. Also you don't actually ask for help in this post at all, so I'm not sure what your actual issue is.
/r/seduction12/08/12 10:31 AM
1

Top notch advice there buddy!
/r/seduction12/08/12 10:29 AM
2

Your case isn't exclusive but you lack a lot of detail for a lot of issues. Instead of giving you ambiguous unhelpful advice: Are you clean? Cleanliness = ability to look after others = protector. People think unclean (oily hair, unkempt beards, dirt, greasy, smelly) is creepy, it's biological. When are you having these interactions and what are you talking about? When was the last close of any kind, and what did you close? You're making a lot of assumptions about your charm. Perhaps it's the re…
/r/seduction12/08/12 10:28 AM
1

OH! That explains it! You're one of those guys, "I'm older than you, therefore I use my wealth of misplace experiences and tell you why I'm right and you're wrong, simply because I'm older" On that note, you're right, you're at a damn car wash, but why is that not a place where you can make great conversation and deep connections? Where are you meant to have "deep/heavy conversations"? No you're fuckin' dumb, attraction isn't something that's limited to a bar, club or party, you can do it anywhe…
/r/seduction12/08/12 06:13 AM
1

You have the grammar and sentence structure of a 14 year old. I don't actually agree with you in the slightest. Opening someone with something inoccuous is fine, but for what reason? Because you couldn't think of a better opener I assume. Moving on because she doesn't show immediate interest is fuckin' stupid. You build attraction, you don't expect it.
/r/seduction12/08/12 05:15 AM
1

It's not about being "interesting", it's about being sociable. People who are deemed "Interesting" are in fact just able to make other people speak about them selves comfortably. This is ofcourse not to say building rapport, ie. relating to what they say isn't a part of being interesting. I'm going to take a guess that you've just read the game, and that's it. Personally I think The Game is a really well written narrative. That's it. It's not a how-to guide, it's not a reference bible for PUAs, …
/r/seduction12/08/12 05:11 AM
1

Honestly, they can be really interesting subjects. I've talked about porn (flirting), and video games (hobbies) with women and I do it often. They are taboo, kinda immature, BUT if you know what you're doing/saying it's great. Alternatively, you can just do them for yourself, and not for the women.
/r/seduction12/08/12 05:08 AM
2

Here's a tip, if you just approach, you did what 99% of guys couldn't do, and of those 1%, most of them are huge chumps. Approaching is a REALLY small part of the interaction, and if you never get passed that initial phase, you'll never get to meet people, and then you'll never get numbers, or dates, or laid, or girlfriends. When you realise how vast and how large the spectrum of the whole interaction is you'll realise why the approach is in some ways, very insignificant. As per her texting, tha…
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:48 AM
1

"Excuse me, so let me ask you . . as a woman Smile . .which air freshener would you choose vanilla or strawberry ?" Her answer will let you know if she's interested. What place of delusion do you come from?
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:44 AM
3

Keep gaming. Just because you're at your parent's place for 2 weeks, doesn't mean you can't walk outside and meet women too. If for some reason, you cannot (ie, remote island, or male only town), then work out, play video games, masturbate, read books, make new experiences, learn a skill so that you have more experiences and things to relate to in future.
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:42 AM
1

Baby close that shit.
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:40 AM
1

I haven't read this much bullshit in a single sitting in a long time.
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:38 AM
1

I don't quite understand what your issue is. Your appearance is important, but not in the sense that you are a male model, but that you look well maintained. Dirty beards, comb overs, and greasy skin are all "Creepy" from a biological part of us, and not a societal one. SO if you think negating your appearance by making excuses is an option - it's not. Comfort can also be built out of what you say, and how you say it. Kino and regular compliance tests, and building rapport is the easiest way tha…
/r/seduction12/08/12 02:36 AM
1

Be social. School is an environment where your reputations is very easily changed, and the best thing is that every stranger is not guarded because of the basic environment What more do you want?
/r/seduction11/08/12 09:53 AM
3

Be social. School is an environment where your reputations is very easily changed, and the best thing is that every stranger is not guarded because of the basic environment. Use this to your advantage.
/r/seduction11/08/12 09:10 AM
1

To be fair, it kinda does. It's throwing words at her face, more than it is building connections on any level. But if I was to provide feedback now, I would go simpler, ie indirect openers, and then when a greater understanding of what is at work is gained, then get more complex with time.
/r/seduction10/08/12 02:31 AM
1

For someone who is still learning, you're very resilian to actual feedback. Your routine doesn't account for her having much of an interaction, you talk a lot and don't build any rapport... Or for that matter anything. She gets to learn a lot about you, and you learn nothing about her. As far as you thinking It not that complex, you're over analysing a hypothetical conversation - you are telling us what the routine does without having field tested it, this is really detached from reality. In you…
/r/seduction10/08/12 12:56 AM
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This is way too complex for an opener. I think you're looking into this way more than you need to. It doesn't do a lot of things well either, for its complexity; You have a indirect, and somewhat weak frame (might as well just ask for directions and transition), it's an opinion opener, so she may respond with something similar to "Why the fuck are you asking me?" and even if she doesn't say it, it's a little wierd that you need her opinion - don't you have friends?. This is just an opener, there…
/r/seduction09/08/12 11:05 PM
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Weak.
/r/seduction09/08/12 10:56 PM
2

Your issue is you suck at real life, and you assume you're awesome online, and you are worried this will ruin your chances when they meet you for real. Do you actually need us to tell you what to do to get around this? Go outside, use your self proclaimed internet awesomeness in real life and go from there. You don't need our validation or permission to make your actual life better.
/r/seduction09/08/12 08:31 AM
1

As far as Eastern Europe, for the largest part (speaking from cultural teachings, and some experience), they are a lot more direct with what they think about you. This is not to say their minds can't be changed or what have you, BUT if say something to the extent of "Hey, you seem really nice and really cool" It's likely they'll reciprocate or not with honesty. This is the only REAL difference I've seen in social situations, as well as, don't be one of the "boys".
/r/seduction09/08/12 04:11 AM
1

I still don't think that's even necessary.
/r/seduction06/08/12 12:53 PM
1

You make the process sound significantly more complex than it actually is. A lot of it I disagree with, and theres no real point correcting you seeing As I would be defeating my point about it being not so complex.
/r/seduction06/08/12 11:04 AM
1

That is not really a reframe, that's a transition. A reframe completel alters the frame/reason why you two are talking.
/r/seduction06/08/12 08:09 AM
1

Touché. But as far as newbs, females are great for preselection. Having more around is better, no matter how good you are.
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:54 AM
1

To get into the zone, I stay social... And then I never leave. It's a part of being confident, a part of being secure.
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:52 AM
1

Direct is uncomfortable because we're inexperienced and it doesn't make sense. The worse case scenario seems most likely because it takes so much more balls. In reality, it's quite easy... Very easy infact, you're giving someone a compliment, making their day if anything. A reframe is pretty much a semi transition, semi open where you let your intentions be known. Pretty much, if the person is someone you think you'll like, you let them know, and move forward. Something like, "I'm going to be re…
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:37 AM
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I would either go direct from the get go, or use a functional opener, then reframe shortly after. This is simply because it's a beach... There aren't too many ways around this, it's kind of obvious what you want, unless, like I said, you reframe.
/r/seduction06/08/12 02:41 AM
1

Practice everywhere females exist and being social is a possibility.
/r/seduction04/08/12 06:53 AM
1

Hot girls are humans too. They shit, fart, burp and all the stuf we do as well. You treat them like you would treat any one else. If you put them on a pedastool, you are like every other guy who has tried to hit on her that night. If you want confidence, you need to find it yourself, this is not something you can teach. I found it in the comfort of knowing that girls enjoy my company, that my experience has shown I am able to hold a conversation on almost anything anywhere, and That I am somewha…
/r/seduction04/08/12 04:00 AM
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Reframing is the only way I can recommend you do this. You talk to the group innocuously, and then when you want, reframe the situation by doing a direct open on her, directed at the family such as; "I just got to be honest with you guys, she's absolutely gorgeous, do you mind if we talk for a bit?"
/r/seduction04/08/12 03:55 AM
1

Practice. You don't get better at conversation by having hypothetical ones, you get better by having real ones. At times you will crash and burn, you will have to plow, sometimes you'll take a risk in order to push through and win/lose. Doesn't matter. You also get the benefit of analysing conversations in hindsight to see what made things go well and what made things go poorly.
/r/seduction04/08/12 03:52 AM
2

The time is now, you taking steps towards self improvement is great, especially it you know what needs to be improved and what you want improved. Keep us posted and goodluck.
/r/seduction04/08/12 03:49 AM
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I hate you. It's thinking like that which makes me think that you don't deserve anyone. I'm Asian too, and girls love talking to me. The difference is that you have defeated yourself before talking to them. Get over yourself, grow a dick, stop bringing people down.
/r/seduction03/08/12 04:09 PM
1

I didn't say everyone had to fill a role, you're misinterpreting me. I said you need to have value that they want. If that value comes from being useful, that's one factor, sometimes it's because you're just a good friend. His issue is that he's not achieving what he wants because he's not interacting the way he thinks he should.
/r/seduction03/08/12 10:38 AM
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yes, he needs some kind of value if he expects to be invited out to parties, you can be friends or close aquaintences with someone but never be invited out because you have nothing to bring to the table. And no, OP thinks he's funny/cool, which may or may not be true. Just because he thinks he is, doesn't mean they do too. Another factor to consider is whether you are the kind of person that the person wants around. When people plan parties and start inviting people out, whether you are someone …
/r/seduction03/08/12 06:53 AM
1

Thanks, keep being cool.
/r/seduction03/08/12 02:09 AM
0

Weak.
/r/seduction02/08/12 02:39 PM
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What I discovered in my teen years, is that the reason people invite each other out and do what they do is because they have a mutual understanding of value sharing. That guy brought the alcohol, that guy was the cool guy who helped vibe, that guy creates a better playlist, and that guy's just cool, so he's coming. You need to establish that yourself, you need to be the guy who people like, whether it's because you're funny, because you're cool, doesn't matter, you just need to find value in you…
/r/seduction02/08/12 02:35 PM
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I used to live in the states. As far as too direct for you, you are more than welcome to not use them. i personally enjoy being more direct because it filters out all the bullshit, and is a way of qualifying them so that I am interacting with the people I want to interact with as opposed to a lot of ambiguous riff raff. Also being the outlier (the guy who stands out) is significantly more memorable than the guy who was like all the other ones.
/r/seduction02/08/12 08:17 AM
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Nope. It's had the complete opposite effect. I have met more people in the last 2 weeks than I have in the previous 3 months of semester, been approached to write a column for the student newspaper, and had so much damn fun, i don't actually give a shit. It's also got a part to do with what you do and how you do it. A lot of my direct openers are very sincere and casual, in that they have a quality to them that doesn't reek of pick up artistry.
/r/seduction01/08/12 10:27 PM
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The point of this post is that anything goes. Don't overthink it, just talk to them. When I am in fake student mode and people ask what I study sometimes I say "don't even go to school, I just hit on chicks all day" to which they laugh and don't realise I am not joking. It's a social environment, make the most of it.
/r/seduction01/08/12 10:24 PM
2

I am a part of three different regular groups, one is really bubbled, no one really new comes in, and the other is all energy and fun, and a great way of meeting new people. This one girl (boyfriend) liked me so much she wants to introduce me to her hot friends. As far as openers for groups you don't know, I would use anything from: "Hey guys, I don't really know many people here, and you guys look like a lot of fun, what's up?" Or... "Hey, I realised that I come out to drink and I never meet an…
/r/seduction01/08/12 10:20 PM
1

I have recently been inspired to talk to every attractive girl I meet, and I have found this: "Hey name, come here for a minute. I want to talk to you." To work on almost everyone. Have your conversation, talk about what you want to talk about, and if you want her number, and you think she's attractive (and vice versa) why don't you just be upfront? Find out what she's into and tell her you want to take her out on a day of your mutual freedom and do what you both discussed. Good luck.
/r/seduction01/08/12 03:18 PM
1

You do it when it matters, and before it's too late. Usually after a first kiss and definitely before sex is a good time. Theres no point in lying, or trying to hide it, that's just silly. :)
/r/seduction01/08/12 08:41 AM
1

Well spotted... My question is who is the one who valued this?
/r/seduction01/08/12 08:39 AM
1

Yeah, I actually dated a Dutch model (who will not be named for obvious reason), and had a very sexual three weeks with. We dated for a few months. I wouldn't recommend using omegle though. You havr a significantly easier time doing it in person.
/r/seduction01/08/12 08:04 AM
1

When you go into interactions, everyone will have a different result, people will laugh at certain things, and not care for others. One question may make her never shut the fuck up and the same may give you a three word response from a different person. Ultimately, no matter what happens, you need to constantly be talking to people to gain an understanding, right now your knowledge of what, how and why you're doing is likely not appropriate to be making stark judgements about what happened, why …
/r/seduction01/08/12 07:40 AM
3

Meet everyone. Meet people through friends. It's the most secure way, makes you NOT look like a hoe, it saves a lot of comfort building (he trusts her/him, so why shouldn't he trust you!). Be interested in what he's interested in, look hot (Always, hair, make up, clothes, etc), and be willing to use people just to meet their hot friends. Want a guy who has a good body? Start with the right circles, guys who play sports, guys who work out, and just because you don't want to date the guy you immed…
/r/seduction25/07/12 12:38 PM
1

Are you fucking serious? Who the fuck is going downvote crazy?
/r/seduction18/07/12 07:35 AM
0

Thanks. The comment I was referring to is here: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/wg1ze/need_advice_on_daygame_first_day_on_field_ever/c5d21ed It's pretty much the simplest need-to-know day game stuff you need to get started. I should probably clarify, I wasn't downvoted to negative, but people are downvoting it non-the-less.
/r/seduction17/07/12 06:37 PM
1

Thanks SunnyPixels, that isn't an actual quote, it's just the gist of what I'm saying in direct approaches. However an actual quote would be something such as: "Hey, I just want to let you know, you're absolutely gorgeous, and had to come say "hi"." That one is a freebee.
/r/seduction17/07/12 05:30 PM
1

I know what you mean. I responded to a post asking how to day game and was downvoted despite putting three different forms of day game, examples and justifications. Why is beyond me.
/r/seduction17/07/12 04:17 PM
1

Typo, yes. Thanks for pointing that out.
/r/seduction17/07/12 04:16 PM
6

There's a lot of down voting here... Day game is pretty simple. There's indirect and direct, both of which are extremely powerful in their own right. The idea behind Indirect is that your approach and open sets a frame that you are harmlessly there for a reason, and now you've initiated an interaction. You don't have to worry about what she thinks because if you decide to leave you were there to find directions, or talk about sandwiches or whatever. You pretty much open to set the frame, transit…
/r/seduction17/07/12 02:25 PM
1

Your perceived idea of consensus 2 doesn't really equate to what this is about. The reason why women persist on wearing uncomfortable shoes, dresses that leave them cold in the winter, and other accessories that have no practical purpose beyond aesthetics, is because they want to look good for their own confidence, it's a projection of how they feel (or would LIKE to feel). This is not to say women are always immaculately dressed. Where you may be your "honest" self by dressing down, it also sho…
/r/seduction15/07/12 01:08 PM
1

Takes one to know one. Son.
/r/seduction14/07/12 01:23 AM
1

Do explain. I'll happily take your insult if you can back it up. Go on.
/r/seduction13/07/12 11:31 AM
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I see the error of my ways. Yeah you're absolutely right. OP is a walking fucknugget.
/r/seduction13/07/12 07:50 AM
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Yeah!! EDIT Just for context.
/r/seduction13/07/12 06:49 AM
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"considering all of your posts" *links one post * nice work mate! Fuckin' inspector gadget! Nothing gets past this eagle eye! Oh wow! Look at all that lovely karma you've garnered from those words of advice noone has appreciated... Awww wait! Look at all mine! Yeah fuck you very much :)
/r/seduction13/07/12 03:14 AM
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There's nothing outrageous about what I wrote. Also what you say doesn't make any sense... Compliment thr View she chose... In the middle of the city? How is that even direct any more? That sounds like social retard indiect. Direct is about "Hey, I came up to you to let you know what I think of you, and it's this! Now let's talk." I don't know what experience you have, but it certainly isn't mine. Almost all of mine have been "thank you"s and smiles. Don't go around trying to shoot holes in my s…
/r/seduction13/07/12 02:30 AM
1

Thank you.
/r/seduction13/07/12 02:26 AM
-2

Yeah, I did. Doesn't matter, enjoy your bullshit buddy.
/r/seduction13/07/12 02:26 AM
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I've written one thing, and you're saying another thing. This is where you fault. Also, you're trying to close on the wrong thing. Stop trying to dissect everything into dot points and think the interaction lasts 4 seconds. Issues: When did I write "Cute"? It is actually really fucking low impact. Some girls can actually find it insulting. All that effort, and the most they get is "cute"? Yeah, you and every other guy asked them that. Have the conversation THEY want to have. If you don't know, s…
/r/seduction12/07/12 06:22 PM
11

Indirect approaches are a testament to how easy it is to start a conversation with strangers. Direct approaches are a testament to how EASY it is to get a girl to go on a date with you. Indirect: "Hey, excuse me. Do you happen to know where the nearest (mildly mature franchise) is? I'm meant to meet my friends their later, and I have no idea where I'm going. Oh thank you. I'm MrNutty *shake hand *. You seem really friendly by the way, where are you from?..." Direct: "Hey, excuse me. Can I tell y…
/r/seduction12/07/12 05:49 PM
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Actually the health, wealth, relationships has absolutely NOTHING to do with pick up. It's just about being an attractive male. Your model is kind of a simpler, less encompassing version of the one used in the Eyesneck personality test. You should do some research. You also haven't justified your model. What is this based on? Thought? Personal experience? A dream?
/r/seduction12/07/12 05:22 PM
2

Sorry to burst your bubble... but this was done years ago. Aspects of how it works out is in this interview here.
/r/seduction12/07/12 04:26 PM
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There's a simpler one: Health, Wealth, Relationships. Adam Lyons talked about it in his free webinar that is available for download somewhere (friend droboxed it). As far as sexiness though, sexiness has actually very little to do with the physical (for females->Males). You can have a six pack, and be awkward as shit. It's about that smile, that glare, the way you dress, and how you own it. Also some girls aren't turned on by typical "sexiness" some girls like slightly more social nerdy, geeky t…
/r/seduction12/07/12 04:23 PM
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From what I can see, most of your game comes directly from the game. Sure it worked then, and it'll likely work now, but there are signicantly better ways to go about getting numbers and dates. 1) The problem I have with opinion openers is they don't make sense. This is some stranger you're asking for an opinion about a personal matter. Sure they may answer it, and yes you will have some intrigue, but more often than not you'll have a lot of people curiously wondering "What the fuck?" 1.5) Neggi…
/r/seduction12/07/12 04:14 PM
1

I honestly don't agree with most of what you're doing, potentially because you're significantly more overt than me, or we're going of completely different sources. I spend a lot of time in the same places, I do know most of the regular people in the area (some of whom are great friends), but I can't tick the same boxes as you. This also goes for several others I know who share the same space.
/r/seduction12/07/12 09:32 AM
14

I'm 20, and you're wrong.
/r/seduction11/07/12 06:40 AM
12

I am an Asian who grew up early on thinking he was meant to be black who had a long term identity issue thinking I'm white. This shows in my demeanor, and I am only now, in my adulthood seeing an asian girl for the first time, ever. All my previous girlfriends were white, very attractive, and of varying intelligence from technical geniuses to questionable. This is only a problem if you let it be one. Yes there are some girls out there who date "black guys only" or whatever, but most people in th…
/r/seduction11/07/12 04:49 AM
3

I think what he's trying to say is it's not a good opener.
/r/seduction11/07/12 03:46 AM
1

What's the last experimental thing you did? the last experimental thing you did? last Yeah, we can. But you didn't give "Good advice". I do agree that if people want to get better at being social, learning some stuff, (ie. check out the sidebar!) is great. BUT as far as just telling people "Read the sidebar, go outside and practice" thinking it's an be all, end all solution, is kind of ridiculous. The great thing about pick up/seduction/game is that it's so diverse, there is an infinite amount o…
/r/seduction10/07/12 07:59 AM
10

Solution: Never hang out with him again.
/r/seduction10/07/12 04:34 AM
0

What's the last experimental thing you did?
/r/seduction10/07/12 03:35 AM
1

You have much to learn about paraphrasing.
/r/seduction09/07/12 04:24 PM
3

Crude, but nice... But no it wasn't.
/r/seduction09/07/12 04:13 PM
14

Kind of ironic that you failed to quote properly... "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
/r/seduction09/07/12 04:00 PM
5

I was practicing day game for the first time, and was learning from a more experienced/diverse AFC, and saw a tall blonde dressed in a short flowy gold dress walking toward him. He opens with "I just have to say, you look absolutely gorgeous." without fail she says "Go away." Youch.
/r/seduction09/07/12 11:11 AM
1

Simply put, if you never ask for the number, you're not going to get it. But here's the other thing, now that you've told us, you're looking for more than sex, why are you going out at night? The environment is different. I'm not saying you CAN'T get into a relationship at night, but most people are out to meet people, dance some, and probably get laid. That said, meeting people through mutual friends is the easiest and most natural way for a relationship to form. So... go for the friends (Meet …
/r/seduction08/07/12 06:39 PM
1

Honestly, you are giving great advice for someone who wants to start out, but you completely miss the guy's question. I don't think it helps that much when you say "just read the sidebar, and practice", atleast not in this case.
/r/seduction08/07/12 06:24 PM
1

Don't talk to her as if you're her coworker Completely fucking agree Convey your intentions by asking out instead of using a book as an excuse to see her. We're at differences. Closing on a commonality is actually the BEST way to make someone do something with you, whether it's a love for books, deserts, bowling or whatever. She just said she likes it, so it's half her idea to begin with. Getting a girl to come out without expectations makes her significantly less likely to flake, there is less …
/r/seduction08/07/12 05:33 PM
3

Nope. Don't eject, you said "We should get together and talk about this sometime", SOMETIME You didn't say "Let's go on a date, to a sex museum, I'll get a raging boner and then propose crazy anal sex back at my place." no, you just said, you should talk about it... SOMETIME. You could have EASILY moved onto another question/topic, and palmed it off like it was a sweet suggestion. If your conversation is word for word, you actually have some great commonalities, BUT, you only acknowledge what sh…
/r/seduction08/07/12 05:30 PM
1

... What's with people on seddit missing the entire point? Are you like this with women as well? I agree with you saying "don't settle" however, I don't agree with you saying "Not a hard concept" this is the part you seemingly missed. Yes, it's bullshit, but why are you telling me to experiment? I'm not the one who's asking for help.
/r/seduction08/07/12 04:50 PM
5

I can respect what your'e saying, but I don't agree with you. It can actually be very easy to pick up, number close, and date close for that matter, without being a creep, rather the opposite; as a genuine, well adjusted, social male.
/r/seduction08/07/12 04:46 PM
3

I recommended watching this for science: THIS (World's Number 1 PUA spills the beans) I started in the same way for a short while: "holy shit, I'm gonna be "THAT GUY " who goes around trying to get laid all day... how sad?" well surprise! no one fucking picked it up, no one noticed... But even if they had, no one said anything to me, and I began realising, I don't really care if they did, because I was having SO much damn fun, it didn't matter a single bit. Just know that if you're not a creep, …
/r/seduction08/07/12 04:43 PM
1

It is actually. Most people are conditioned to look for a girl they like, and then settle down; make her your girlfriend. Then... that's about it. To a lot of people coming here, they don't quite grasp the idea of talking to multiple women, trying to date multiple women, MLTRs and some even don't understand talking to women plutonically while in a relationship with one. Don't patronise this guy simply because you have a different mindset than him.
/r/seduction08/07/12 02:54 PM
3

Then work on the date close, and F-Close all the womens.
/r/seduction08/07/12 12:47 PM
1

Speak to women, make more women friends, and be cool with them. Don't be a doormat, don't do everything for them, but treat them like a friend, make them laugh and hang out with them when you can. As far as meeting women, I also spent time serving. I had a similar situation, so much so, a lot of my colleagues thought I was gay. In the end I made an active effort of going out of my way and meeting women where possible. What I did in the military was what I did there, and my personality, my humor,…
/r/seduction08/07/12 12:47 PM
1

To answer your question, I do things for myself. Sometimes I leave the house to go have fun, because I think it's worthwhile. Sometimes I work out because it makes me feel better, or it feeds that side of me that lives off the vanity of my own image. But yes, you raise a valid point, it often takes external stimuli to motivate people to take action. More often than not it's about what someone values, what they put ahead of what.
/r/seduction08/07/12 12:42 PM
0

I'm 5'7", perhaps the least convincing thing I could say. Also most people are really terrible liars, so the ensuing questions wi turn from intrigue to disdain.
/r/seduction07/07/12 05:00 PM
1

How is that self obsessed and jerky? If thats your standard, go back to your humourless life of lonely masterbation.
/r/seduction07/07/12 04:58 PM
1

It's a nice sentiment, but you're wrong. You don't actually understand the difference between male and female attraction values. One being physical, and the other based on lifestyle. You don't inherit social genetics, or charm. These are practiced and learned, influenced by those around us. You can be a male model and have nothing interesting or nothing of value to say, that said, you wouldn't be a 10 to any woman.
/r/seduction07/07/12 07:51 AM
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"You don't... I'm *name *," I would personally not inquire about where they've seen me from and strike up a fun conversation immediately, simply because IF you were the product of an opener, OR they did in fact know you, you've left the novelty and vanity behind and decided to show them that you're awesome.
/r/seduction07/07/12 07:48 AM
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Go to a hair stylist and talk about the features on your face, the ones you want to work around, highlight, etc... Go to the gym. Your clothes will look better when your shoulders actually fill them out. Get clothes that fit you well. You want to create structure, the shape and definition of being a "MAN". Make sure you're getting shirts that fit your shoulder, pants that fit your waist, and don't give you too much leg room.
/r/seduction07/07/12 05:36 AM
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Alright, I read them, and I can say, you're terrible at this. What you're running isn't game it's douchebag. Well people keep saying that guys should be assholes and that's what I was doing. I never once raise my voice in these situations and it's always the other guy yelling at me like a beta faggot. There is nothing about this that is true. I don't think I actually want to help you.
/r/seduction04/07/12 04:49 PM
2

Can you give us some more detailed examples of what you're doing and saying? I can't empathise with any of your issues but I think I may know what the issue is.
/r/seduction04/07/12 04:06 PM
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I don't know why you're trying to educate me on RSD, frankly I don't care. You're missing the original point. What this guy wants is what he should study and practice. There's no point in just learning RSD if he wants a LTR for example.
/r/seduction04/07/12 03:23 PM
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My point is, my game involves gaming everyone, not just the girl. I'll work a room, game some one with no intention of sleeping with them, and use them later to get a hotter girl, (perhaps). RSD is about the one. It's about being uncalibrated, finding that girl who doesn't mind, and then sticking your figurative dick in her face before she wants the literal one. Where I personally don't use it, I don't discourage it if that's what you want, BUT RSD has its short falls if you just want specific t…
/r/seduction04/07/12 02:03 PM
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I would place you as big of an AFC as this guy. Your knowledge and understanding of the spectrum of pick up is super limited; My advice is to read the sidebar (all of it) Where this is not a bad idea to learn, you make no reference as to which part and why. There is content in the sidebar I would personally disagree with and some i completely agree with, but by trying to correct his issues with advice so broad to cover an issue, even you fail to identify is pretty friggin' lame. As per oneitis, …
/r/seduction04/07/12 01:17 PM
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Firstly, don't be discouraged, you've already done what most wouldn't, you fuckin' tried. Unfortunately you've given a lot of information that can't really be used to help determine the issue. What you talked about, her reactions and whos actually touching who is stuff that would make an analysis of what you did wrong easier/better. As far as what I can discern, It sounds like you did fine. However she might not be interested, you might have missed and opportunity for a makeout, and keep trying.
/r/seduction04/07/12 01:11 PM
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Honestly, what you should practice is what you want. I personally dislike RSD, and their methods simply because I find it uncalibrated and repulsive. I have also dealt with RSD tryin to steal my girl in the past, been able to AMOG them and got the girl in the process. Also, are you going for night/day? Do you want a girlfriend, MLTRs, One night stands, friends with benefits? There are a lot of methods out there, some which work, and some that don't. The community is here to help, but we can't do…
/r/seduction04/07/12 09:30 AM
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I get the feeling you just put PUA in your name cos you thought you were hot shit. You hardly know what oneitis is.
/r/seduction04/07/12 09:25 AM
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Having friends who are RSD dealt with RSD trying to take my girl, I can say now, I don't agree with this entirely. You're right in that there are girls who go out to get nailed, but in some cases there are girls who are on the fence so to speak, or just have some anti-slut defences (such as the super hot, high status ones). You can get through these by being calibrated and using social intelligence to show her your high value etc... BUT as far as RSD's methods, it's often miscalibrated and just …
/r/seduction03/07/12 07:22 AM
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I just wrote up an example at the top and upon reading that, I have come to realise, none of it suggests you require a relationship. Personally, "faking it" is not my recommendation, but I don't think it should effect you. Keep talking too and meeting women. If you're meeting women in bars, clubs or night clubs, its almost NEVER a relationship they're after. As per regular girls, it doesn't really matter if you're awesome.
/r/seduction03/07/12 12:26 AM
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