Need advice on daygame, first day on field ever.

puaCurveBall · 2012-07-12T17:15:14+00:00

You only neg if a girl indicates she thinks she has higher social value than you, which basically only happens during night game. I would avoid negs completely for day game.

Based on where you are at, I'd focus more on practicing than worrying about closing. Just get experience interacting with the girls.

VMikeL · 2012-07-12T16:14:39+00:00

From what I can see, most of your game comes directly from the game. Sure it worked then, and it'll likely work now, but there are signicantly better ways to go about getting numbers and dates.

1) The problem I have with opinion openers is they don't make sense. This is some stranger you're asking for an opinion about a personal matter. Sure they may answer it, and yes you will have some intrigue, but more often than not you'll have a lot of people curiously wondering "What the fuck?"

1.5) Negging is a good way to repel people in the day time. Let's leave this one out. Teasing is fine, but be careful with it. Technically it's a form of punishment when used poorly (and most people do), and as the simple science goes, punishing a behaviour makes them not want to do it. So if she answers and you say "You seem like the clingy type" Well, cool, she answered you shit question, and now she's getting insulted for it? Maybe she shouldn't answer it again.

2) Why? This provides nothing. No value, no rapport or comfort. It's a random dude telling a random story. Let her speak about herself, let her speak about anything. All she's done so far (assuming she hasn't left) is give an opinion, and retorted an insult.

3) Sure this might work, but what reason other than you have to go?

"I have to go. give me your number?"

"no, I just met you"

"So we can continue this."

"What is this?"

"A great conversation"

"that I didn't participate in."

I predominately do day game nowadays, and I can tell you, this will work, very few times.

2012-07-12T19:26:16+00:00

Daygame in my opinion is about being a more confident and better version of your regular self, ask yourself, do you really want to date a girl who will bang a guy because he can remember a few canned phrases or do you want to date a girl who dates high quality men, make yourself into a high quality man.

The game is useful for banging a different girl at the bar every night, but if you want a lasting relationship which i assume you do because you're daygaming, you're going to need to be yourself.

TrippAdvice1 · 2012-07-12T17:06:13+00:00

I would only do some of that. Here's what you do: 1) find hot girl 2) use direct opener: "thought you're cute wanted to say hi" 3) get in conversation, be funny, tease, NO NEGS just be cool 4) #3 sounds good

fartuckyfartbandit · 2012-07-12T18:38:31+00:00

GUHHHHHH GUHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHH HEAD HURT. The reason Day Game is so easy is because girls don't expect to be approached at this time. It's also somehow easier for them to see through the bullshit (maybe it has to do with the light, maybe it's that their not drunk or tired, but it's something--and this is why I wouldn't rec doing anything from your template. If you want to do that shit, you'll have better odds at night in a bar or club but I still don't recommend it).

Be yourself. See a girl you'd be interested in talking to and finding out about, approach her with a smile, and say the first thing that comes to mind. A Direct and Indirect combo is very powerful (and something all noobs do very well for some reason), but if you have trouble with it, just go with Direct. Don't game her, just make do a situational/observational opener, she will respect that and at the very worst you just conversed with a stranger in short.

thatsnotmystyle · 2012-07-12T15:59:32+00:00

If it's step 3 you're weary of I would suggest that when you're leaving single out your target and say,

"Hey, look I really got go but it was cool chatting with you, [hand her phone] gimme your number and we can do this again"....

That's the way I would do it but there's lots of ways.

"Hey, look I really got go but it was cool chatting with you, I'd like to see you again, how can we make that happen?".

At which point she will (assuming its gone well), offer her number to you.

"Hey, look I really got go but it was cool chatting with you. I'm meeting some friends in X bar on Thursday, you should come! Bring your friends along."

There's lots to say, it doesn't have to be canned material. If it works it works, if not... tweak it, or keep trying they same 'til you get it.

Full disclosure here; I'm not usually a daygamer so these are just my thoughts, I practice mostly a ratio of 80:20/Night:Day.

MrNutty · 2012-07-12T17:23:48+00:00

Hey man where are will you be practicing daygame? I do all of mines while commuting to work...

I'd choose a direct opener. My favorite are the ones that build tension and releasing it with something funny/cute.

This has worked for me various times: Pat her on the arm while....I know this is a bit weird-or-dont take this the wrong way-or-i dont do this very often buuutt.......you look gorgeous, cute, smart anything. Where I live people seem to be the conservative type-small country.

askywalker · 2012-07-12T18:56:07+00:00

1.5. More of an insult than a tease.

2. a) NO! Bringing up your ex in conversation with a girl you just met is not a good idea.

b) In my opinion you never talk ill of your previous girlfriends to a prospective girl. It shows that you are not over it, it shows that you blame the other person, and maybe some day you'll say these things about the next girl. Really, I actually think saying anything negative about anyone is a bad thing, be above it.

itsmevichet · 2012-07-12T18:51:27+00:00

If it's your first time out, and you're not a natural joker/teaser, then I wouldn't use negs off the bat.

Don't think too much about scripts. Canned opens are useful, as is remembering to keep the conversation fun, but beyond that, let it be more organic. You'll learn more that way.

Other than that, have fun.

MrNutty · 2012-07-12T17:13:18+00:00

Style Method 1. Opener: make sure it's casual (not percieved as a pickup attemt) eg. "What Cologne smells better?", "My friend has a girlfriend that won't let him so much as talk to his ex girlfriend from high school. Do you think that's right?" Basically any dispute that can raise opinions.

Be aware that the set is concerned whether this random stranger(the PUA) will ever leave them alone. So give them a false time constraint. Eg. "I can only stay for a minute. Because I need to get back to my friends."
As you interact, pay more attention to those who seem most likely to shut you out--jealous men, overprotective friends. Make them feel good about themselves while challenging, teasing, and negging the target.
Now demonstrate value. Eg. Give her the best friends test or analyze her body language or handwriting.
Hook: pretend that you have to get back to your friends.
They/she wouldn't want you to leave. Now just enjoy their company. Make a real connection.
Close accordingly.

coyotelime · 2012-07-12T17:01:05+00:00

Why do you need a routine?

"Nice shoes, wanna fuck"

Try that one. Saves you lots of time and energy. Worse case scenario you get slapped. Best case, well..

Title	Need advice on daygame, first day on field ever.
Author	MrNutty
Upvotes	19
Comments	29
Date	July 12, 2012 3:41 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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