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I'm a man and I hate these demographic coercion talks. It is strong "Lie back and think of England" vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:28 AM
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You have valid points here, but simping for each other in established relationships is ok and doesn't contribute to imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:26 AM
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Vasectomy is reversible only in the first years. And given the cost of relationships for young people, it's better for men to just stay single in this economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:51 PM
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If she doesn't want me, I pass. Waiting for marriage is beyond stupid. My mistakes were: Paying for her on dates. Relationships with girls who paid for themselves were much better. Women that invested in relationships something are better for relationships, they are interested. Trusting "I'm on pills, lets go raw, please cum inside". I never did unprotected sex before that... Yet of course I was baby trapped first time I did unprotected sex. Our marriage was horrible first 10 years. Literally ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:23 PM
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Yes, many men who are simps, white knights, most male feminists, men obsessed with women and sex are problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:50 PM
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it was about concept of being used for sex. Agreeing for sex should be about wanting sexbwith this specific person. Not about wanting to somehow ensure relationships with him. If you don't want sex - don't agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:10 PM
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A link? Or at least a quote?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:26 PM
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While consent under pressure is indeed coercion, this is still widely misused to accuse men. Basically woman can always claim that her yes didn't mean yes and she was afraid. This allows retaliation with rape accusation if later woman changed her mind is pissed and wants to revenge. Or wants some kind of sick glory and fame that comes along with the status of victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:39 PM
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Misandry does kill a lot. But few misandrists admit that so openly
/r/MensRights24/07/26 06:35 AM
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Well, this is how 99% men live. You don't have special privileges of a beautiful woman, so you are treated like a default person. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:47 AM
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Good feminists are hated by mainstream feminists. Former receive death threats from the latter.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/07/26 09:34 AM
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No, they actively refuse to understand. I've made a poll a while ago asking men why they have negative views on women. It shown that men are so usually because of what women did to them, or at least said. There was a shitstorm in comments
/r/MensRights20/07/26 05:11 AM
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When was the last time you saw men making a fuss about women staring at them in the gym? Women wear revealing clothes and blame men who stare, call them creeps, complain about objectivation. When men wear such clothes they are usually glad to get attention and don't pretend to be victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:44 AM
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And this much needed education shouldn't be feminist. Feminism still supports this very myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:51 AM
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It is normal when this only affects choice of a potential partner. It is wrong when it affects hiring, promoting, punishment of wrongdoers etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:53 AM
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No, they can't. Because they constantly fall in relationships with sociopaths, abusers, cheaters and are left as single mums. Female intuition is the biggest female illusion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:20 AM
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We treat divorce as a disaster, but it is often like peeling of a used bandaid. Unpleasant but then you are free. Best thing lots of women can do to their husbands is actually divorce and gtfo. It is painful, but better than constant nagging and low key emotional abuse.
/r/MensRights16/07/26 04:58 PM
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There are no universal objectives of life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:09 PM
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Men shouldn't live their life to "find romance". Live your life to be happy. Women are optional. The less you rely on women - the better. It can have some side benefit of not being desperate. The fact that you are not seeking women can be read as a sign of high value. Because men who actually pursuing women are usually seen as low value men. Nevertheless you shouldn't just pretend. This is not a maneuver to attract women. Forget about women. Decenter them. Your life can be good without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:20 AM
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If misandrists avoid marriage and relationships it is a win win. When misandrist laments about menbad, marriagebad etc - support her and tell her she is right and should avoid men. This way she is doing men a favor.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/26 04:32 PM
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That's why conservatives and conservative women are not necessary friends of men. They treat men as a resource.
/r/MensRights10/07/26 07:08 PM
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So patriarchy is unfalsifiable construct usee by modern misandrist to defend their position of supreme victimhood. You can't give any reasonable test for it, because by design there is no test. It is intended to be so vague to always claim there is patriarchy everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:56 PM
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I don't know about the history of racism in US and can't care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:42 PM
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I don't understand why this emigration is so focused on dating aspect. It is basically gynocentrism. Men can't think about anything else but women. In fact life in developing countries is much cheaper, taxes lower, housing affordable. If you have some money and/or remote job you can travel and live a much better life abroad. Also developed countries are often misandrist to a degree. Men are second class citizen. If you move to developing countries with no feminist nonsense and institutional disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:41 PM
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Can you answer the question without whataboutism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:22 PM
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So how to objectively test if we live in Patriarchy or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:17 PM
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There is no falsifiable definition of patriarchy. It is by design vague enough to elude the checks and keep claiming there is patriarchy everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:08 PM
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okay, skip the much. Still more successful. There is something in the bullies that makes them more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:44 PM
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I don't say that women pick bullies because they know they bullied people. So the women who choose killers may not know. But there is something in the personality of bullies that attracts women. Who may be unaware of the fact they are bullies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:41 PM
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Although I agree that BP is full of virtue signaling and not applicable to practice, there are popular influencers. Contrapoints comes to mind. There are various male feminists and white knighta preaching for the pool of likeminded men and leftist women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:54 AM
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50/50 is not about money. It is about time you save when you dodge. Parasitic women get triggered and filter themselves out.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/07/26 05:50 AM
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I think it is a boogeyman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:38 AM
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So do women. But you probably think they are systematically mistreated by gender and there is patriarchy somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:17 PM
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So chances are men you know don't share with you what they think about dating ans women. Number of men that experienced SA is only slightly less that women. However you likely don't know about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:15 PM
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No. I'd prefer to live happily and if someone dies because I don't want to sacrifice myself... Oh no. Anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:00 AM
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Misandry is a wide topic and it is not limited to dating. Misandry doesn't exclude misogyny. Actually they both coexist and strengthen each other. Men need to be treated like equal human beings, we don't need any traditional things like arranged marriages. Right now men are treated either like nasty subhuman scum (weirdos, creeps, rapists, thirsty sex driven monsters) or as a source of resources for women (a protective wall with an atm machine). In this reality a lot of men don't even want relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:57 AM
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I think that "men are not allowed to cry" is valid but a relatively tiny piece of discrimination of men. This is something that feminists can acknowledge, it fits into their dogma. They refuse everything else but say "yes indeed men are not allowed to cry in patriarchy" to show that they are aware of tiny negligible male issues.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/26 11:56 PM
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This is their personality even if they don't abuse these women. Killers are not killing their women too, they kill other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:31 PM
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yes, and? Women are choosing violent sociopaths instead of shy guys. Only a few such people actually become serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:45 PM
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This is actually true. Men are not exempt and often date toxic abusive women. It is not womenbad mengood. Both genders are choosing baddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:32 PM
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Typically you don't know he is a serial killer until he is arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:31 PM
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I'm from Russia (but now live and work elsewhere). We have major legal discrimination of men - conscription, 5 years higher age of retirement despite living on average 12 years less, legally harsher punishment for men. I tried to lead a community focused on gender equality, yet I'm pretty burned out. It irritates me how many Russian MD (Male movement guys) are hyper focused on questions of sex, women, purity and other crap that is barely related to enormous discrimination of men.
/r/MensRights06/07/26 10:18 AM
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There was a research that compared dating success of school bullies and the guys they bullied. Bullies were much more successful. So OP is wrong. Women are virtue signaling and deceiving themselves. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704915613909
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:24 AM
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Great analysis.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 06:21 AM
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Women abuse this social power of greater trust and others always assuming that woman is the victim unless proven otherwise. This also creates bias known as women are wonderful as well as family courts siding with women, or punishing men harsher for the same crimes. Given this disadvantage men can distrust women - because if she decides to be mean, abuse this societal bias, man will be helpless. Unless he is prepared with prenups, choosing better jurisdiction and did his best to make sure this pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:33 PM
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Creepy is subjective. It is something that makes a woman consider you dangerous or at least weirdo. And it is in her head. Men are basically shamed for something they have very little control - women's thoughts. It is very difficult to communicate with women in such a way to guarantee that no woman would consider you a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:52 AM
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Yes, sadly. Men think it is wrong to generalize men, but ok to generalize feminists. And attack even good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:46 AM
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Some men are obnoxious even more than gynocentrist feminists who effectively demand privilege not equality. I think we need to value little steps towards us instead of demanding more and more concessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:00 PM
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Why should I persuade you? Again I know lots of men hate feminists regardless of how egalitarian they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:37 PM
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Her own publications are not related to feminism. The popular science and blog posting is a community in social media. One might call it activism. And it matters because such things shift the public opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:41 PM
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because it is just untrue. Controlling for employer, position and title it shrinks to less than 2%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:35 PM
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She in particular supported the point that we are leaving in post-patriarchy. Society that is not patriarchal yet bears legacy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:16 PM
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They don't want jobs that are risky, negatively impacting work life balance and prefer the low paying spheres that are traditionally feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:14 PM
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I didn't say anything good about the popular mainstream feminists. They are usually bigots
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:12 PM
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Yes, mainstream feminists are bigots and sexists. But not all feminists are that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:01 PM
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She was a false accuser and abuser
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:01 PM
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So you didn't understand what I said in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:00 PM
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wage gap is explained through different career parts due to different choices regarding sphere of work and maternity. Women are not getting less for the SAME work. Gap is frequently attributed to men receiving more for the identical work which is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:59 AM
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Which group is common? I'm not sure I understand what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:57 AM
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Yes, they are big and sadly growing. I'd say this in particular due to negative evolution pressure. Moderate egalitarian feminists are burning out from all the hate and giving up. Hateful are driven by their hate and thriving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:23 AM
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How do you measure results? Before the war she was making some progress in the "war for hearts and minds". Nowadays her past platform is banned for the reasons unrelated to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:22 AM
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You are asking a wrong question. Correct one - why should men help such type of feminists? Because we need this particular type to be more prominent to shift the discourse from the blatant misandry and dogmatic theories of patriarchy and oppression. As when you vote for a party it is not because it is entitled, but because it is better representation of you, while their rivals are pushing agenda harmful to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:17 AM
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Feminism is not a group. It is diverse. Very different people wear this badge. Some of them are egalitarian. Other are just pro-women and antimen. Yet another group are terribly woke and promote weird theories about hierarchy of oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:14 AM
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So I consider this kind of feminism that you translate in this comment as the root of the evil. It is mainstream and dominating. Women who are egalitarian feminists and oppose these identity policies need our help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:11 AM
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For sure - no. I want a society that values merit, equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes and doesn't punish you for achieving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:06 AM
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Divorce is a typical male fear. Men say that it is dangerous to marry because she might divorce. So you see, men can divorce too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:03 AM
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in generalization: men are rapists, yes all men, supporting various misandrist narratives. targeted: believe all women, character assassination of men without proof or listening to his side of story. If a woman says online he is a creep - he is screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:00 AM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:53 AM
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LinkedIn is reverse Tinder. Hot girls write first to nerdy boys and they don't reply (c). But it actually makes sense in your metaphor. Once you are very skilled, tables turn and HRs start to hunt you from the competitor. So women can try to steal taken men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:46 AM
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but why does it bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:51 PM
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It is legal, two consenting adults can do everything they want together. Aging Karens who had they fun with older men now face the flipside of this dynamics and are pissed. Men they considered below themselves now have younger options. How dare they?!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:33 PM
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Do what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:34 PM
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So, yes it is. Why are you surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:00 PM
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It is not just sharing. It is shaming, bashing, generalization and sometimes bullying men they dislike as creeps. Women hate men in general. And sometimes this hatred is focused on particular man by pointing a finger at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:49 PM
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Usually no. But can be sequential phases. Men first believe in compassion. Then they get disillusioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:52 AM
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Women weaponized their feelings of unsafety against men. This is actively used against men. Why should men listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:37 AM
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Okay. So go ask the bear for sympathy. Men are starting to reciprocate attitude of women. That's good. Men stop being apologetic punchbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:45 AM
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It is indeed quite progressive thanks to Soviet legacy, where women got equality earlier than in US, without such things as "equity", "affirmative action" and a pyramid of oppression that is a basis of western feminist theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:55 AM
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I'm living now in Armenia and there is no institutional feminism. And I don't see any significant downsides. There are countries where certain aspects of feminism cause issues for men - lower chances to be employed in certain spheres. Legal discrimination in definition of gendered violence (domestic violence, rape, femicide). Also it may create toxic environment for men in certain spheres - working among indoctrinated women who openly hate men. However, these things don't affect me here and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:17 AM
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So that's exactly the problem. Most men will be not wanted by anyone. When women age and think about children, they may settle to men that are not wanted. Because men whom women want are either taken or refusing to commit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:08 AM
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Ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:05 AM
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A lot of average men figured there is no one who want them back. Some blame women. Some just quit dating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:04 AM
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From which century are you? XIX?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:37 PM
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I don't read romantic novels. I write them. I'm married. However, I prefer to live abroad as a single. And I don't try to bang anyone here, I'm not cheating despite our marriage being not so great. Not sure if I'm a part of so called loneliness epidemic. I don't feel lonely. I have enough friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:32 PM
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I don't know if you are a particular example. But you wrote high standards in your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:51 PM
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I'm speaking about abstract women, not you specifically, because I don't know you Broke women think they deserve a rich man. Obese women think they deserve a fit man. Short women aim for tall men. Women 35+ with kids aim for men without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:35 PM
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So it could be cut to: forget about women and improve your life for the sake of your own happiness not to please women. The less you jump around them the better (and may even raise your chances to be desired). Dating advice is to quit dating and start living.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:33 PM
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Your user flair ironically says it. Women have high standards but often are not match for these same standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:30 PM
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I already made a post explaining what is the problem with trying to date in your social circles. Failure poisons this circle for you, as rumors spread and everyone knows you tried and were rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:27 PM
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I do. A sample of the population behaved this way. Statistics is never polling 100% population. They take a representative sample of 1000 people and ask them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:40 PM
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This shows you don't understand samples and statistics. I'm not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:28 PM
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Women rarely chose this path. But as there is a KPI for gender representation, women are given priority. Check what happens to the job market and employment. Men are losing jobs, women are slowly gaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:22 PM
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We have a sample of general population. There is no reason to think that the rest would behave differently than this sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:15 PM
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Because this group is a sample of population. If other women would found out, they'd follow the same crowd. Come on, there was metoo. Women became a team and very very few dared to digress.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:14 PM
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So I took a specific example of a case where women supported abuser because she was a woman. They didn't knew for sure, but in a situation of at least some doubt overwhelmingly supported her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:13 PM
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So they didn't know, thats why they didn't side. Those who knew - picked sides. Women mostly supported Heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:10 PM
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Because if men stop approaching it becomes more difficult to shame and guilt trip them. If men start approaching more, media will immediately return to the old ways. They didn't change or realized they were wrong. They are temporarily puzzled by their usual target not behaving the way they expect
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:04 PM
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It is hilarious that of all the people here you dare say that most women don't have solidarity and don't always support women against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:02 PM
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Some people were unaware. But in online discussions about Depp Heard majority of women sided with Heard until the last trial - for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:00 PM
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My observations show that women mostly supported Heard until the last trial. Depp was canceled, he lost contracts, Heard was lauded and been an activist against abuse and violence against women, while actively perpetrating abuse against her man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:26 PM
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Check Duluth model, LIVG and Istanbul conventions. They are gendered. Retirement age difference is still pretty common even in the developed countries. Despite men living shorter lives. International institutions are biased and misandrist, this manifests in crafty definitions of gender equity which is absolutely one sided. A small yet telling story about how UN denied International Men's Day and chose this exact day to be the International Toilet Day. This holiday they recognize. Conscription is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:05 PM
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This is how Warren Farrel identified himself. I prerer this label as it is originally for gender equality with focus on men. While sadly a lot of MRA are not egalitarian. Though this is my preference. I don't insist that everyone should follow same reasoning
/r/MensRights26/06/26 12:49 PM
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While women indeed sometimes call out other women, this is rare. When in doubt they often side with a woman assuming that women are by default victims of men. Quite often when discussing various relationships advices in the vague situations women invent additional details that excuse the behavior of women as self defense from abuse. Many women sided with Amber Herd vs Depp
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:46 PM
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I'd rather put effort to be healthy, live longer and stay sane/productive longer
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:39 AM
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Or stop pedestalizing women and their wants, go away and be happy single
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:36 AM
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Conscription and draft. Retirement age. Rape definition, policies regarding SA and domestic violence (see Istanbul conventions, Duluth model, LIVG in Spain)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:33 AM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10394402/ https://www.stevestewartwilliams.com/p/rethinking-sexism-in-science https://brackishwatersbarrensoil.substack.com/p/why-men-wont-heal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:17 AM
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So is the discrimination of men - very real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:57 AM
1

Maybe same, maybe couple grades higher and in management.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:44 AM
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1st part is correct. 2nd part is wrong. Offline approach will be equally bad if you are average. You just throw it as a better alternative without elaborating. The only two rules are: Be attractive;Don't be unattractive If you don't fit these rules, just quit dating and try to improve your single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:15 PM
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I see lots of women promoted into managerial roles. Doing career faster then men. And I'm working in IT, which is considered male dominated
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:05 PM
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Yes. Periods suck, but extra 5-10 years of longevity are good. In the developed countries women have certain benefits in education, at workplace, no sexist laws targeting women unlike men. I'd probably made a better career as a woman. Children are optional. This one is subjective, but women's bodies just look more aesthetical
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:51 PM
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Still if you have hundreds of matches and less than half of them are trash, you have great choice. If it was 99% trash situation would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:49 PM
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There is a certain problem with women making generous but not really necessary gifts. Men are obliged to reciprocate. This is a waste of money. Usually this is money earned by man or family budget. Sometimes the best gift is to agree to not buy anything or something symbolic.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/06/26 07:17 PM
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41, 0
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:17 PM
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These women are entitled parasites that are angry that men finally quit the plantation.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/06/26 09:01 AM
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Problem with nice guys is they believed women, who stated that women value good personality, being good guy would improve their dating success. Women are just virtue signaling. Once men stop listening to women in that aspect niceguyness will be gone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:03 AM
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No. It comes from experience of interaction with women. Some men indeed start to hate women because of how women treated them. Same as for misandry which is often reactive to bad experience with men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:00 AM
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I don't think they take pride in it. They just admit their desperation and say that beggars are not choosers. Nothing to be proud about it. A lot of men are seemingly in that state. I still find it wrong, I think men should value their singlehood more. Often no woman is better than relationships. Still, as I disapprove this, I disagree that it is any sort of pride
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:52 AM
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But it is women who enjoy reading such stories, not men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:15 AM
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So women are largely anti men. Which is considered acceptable. Misandry is much more tolerated than misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:14 AM
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Because RP is based on empirical knowledge of men. Still the general "theory" is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:12 AM
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A lot of their points are correct. Still their entire worldview is cringeworthy and I can't subscribe to it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:10 AM
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Yes. I thought it would be worse, according to what I hear from women about online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:07 AM
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I'm not a RP. I'm explaining how women still expect traditional male roles from men and what kind of masculinity they want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:29 PM
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I'm not a red pill. I'm explaining that what kind of masculinity or traditional male role women expect. Not how redpillers see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:27 PM
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Behavior model, mating rituals, taking decisions, paying her bills, giving princes treatment. Women eagerly read about dominant abusive men in their romance literature. Yet continue to guilt trip real men about toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:00 PM
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Yet another spew of misandry from a feminist positions. I'm not obsessed with masculinity, and I'm a fully functioning adult. Still I see this post as raving of women trying to once again guilt trip men into obedience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:58 AM
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I know such women. There are masculist women. But typically feminist women who demand men to advocate for women are not the women who advocate for mens rights.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 04:55 AM
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Or simply Divorce court, may be Alimony court.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 03:35 AM
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https://www.connectedcouples.app/blog/how-couples-meet-statistics Even if dating apps are not single biggest contributor together with met online they are majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:51 AM
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Still single men are looked down upon. And most importantly they are often insecure about it, believe they missed something and thus are miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:42 PM
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That's because family, marriage, happily ever after, having sex etc are just taken as absolute virtues and life goals for a man. For women's emancipation "a woman without a man is like fish without bicycle" was an important step. Women used to be considered utter failures if they didn't marry. Now situation is reversed. Women don't want to marry and it is OK. Men without women are considered losers missing the most important thing in their life. For emancipation of men, men have to decenter wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:28 PM
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I don't think it is dooming. Vice versa. Continuous attempts drain men, destroy their self esteem. If they just try to live as happy singles they can actually improve their life. But as long as they are trying to cling to hopes, idealize women and relationships (as something they haven't) they lose opportunity to be happy and continue to be miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:04 PM
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Little experience - yes, there are such women. But they are interested? First of all, if she indeed has little experience it is much more likely that she actively avoided men. Young men without experience could have tried and were rejected. If she has no experience because she is very young, that's super awkward, because man is older and has no experience. Young women sometimes prefer older men to their age group, but specifically because experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:52 PM
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So basically if a man got to 30+ single he won't ever be in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:32 PM
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I've made a post about it earlier explaining why. Success is not poisoning. Fail does. If you tried to date someone from the friend group and was rejected or relationships fell apart this impacts how the other people in the circle see you. In particular it is a big hit to chances of dating someone else in the same group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:45 PM
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It is not Covid. It is a continuation of a trend that started before. Online dating is still the biggest source of couples and marriages. Various offline activities, friend groups are negligible. And it didn't start in Covid, this trend dates to 2010. Dating and relationships are too expensive for men. Not just in money, but mostly in mental load. It is just better to opt out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:36 PM
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Why do you even care what women say? And of course people say online something they wouldn't say offline. Last but not least women at PPD are not a representative sample of women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:23 PM
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I had this avatar for many years (soon changed after that episode) Influx of messages was for couple months. Some hater wrote to me a DM before that with a threat of summoning a horde of thirsty baboons on to me. She apparently posted a link to my page on some BDSM public. I have reasons to believe that hater was a radfem based on the words she chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:17 PM
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No. It was a social network profile using an obviously CGI image of a girl as userpic. As I was anonymous and never stated my gender, it suited my needs. Once upon a time someone pissed for the ban in a public that I managed posted a link to me somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 10:21 AM
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Millions are still dating but the derivative is negative and it is reflected in various "Gen Z are more sexless and less dating" poll data
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:39 AM
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Sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:38 AM
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But women opted out indeed. Not all but many. Remaining women are in "you need that more than I do" mode. So men are now opting out too with some lag.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:38 AM
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So women have at least some experience, going to dates, after 3rd date deciding he is not the one. Or finding out he is married. Or just doesn't want commitment. Because he has a queue of 100 women, why would he? Men (many of them) have no experience, because they don't have matches and even first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:34 AM
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I didn't date men, but I had an interesting experience. Someone posted my account as a "hot girl". At that times I had a female userpic. 12 men wrote me, less than half was really shitty. I think 2 or 3 offered me sex for money. Most tried to be polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:20 AM
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People who worked in mostly female collectives know that women aren't less toxic. They just do it differently. Men are committing more crimes not because of gender. There are more men at the social bottom. People on social bottom do more robbing and murders. Permanently jobless and substance abusers are dangerous, not men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:55 AM
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Why should you be comfortable with bigotry targeting your group. Being apologetic doesn't help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 11:05 AM
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The fact that you didn't cause as much damage is not because you are better person, but because you hadn't as much opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:28 PM
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You say it as if you are any better than her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:04 PM
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You can call men names, but men experienced that and know better. Everything you say to a woman in relationships will be used against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:57 PM
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While this makes sense, there is a problem you miss when you speak about: > like a coworker, a classmate, a fellow member in a chess club, or even a friend Trying and failing to find relationships in your social circle poisons that circle to you. You can lose job - so no romancing coworkers for sure. Other options are less destructive, but still bad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:21 AM
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It is not about victim complex. There are two real problems with opening up and showing your emotions: You expose your weak spots that she will use next time you argue Or she just gets an ick and stops viewing you as a man. If a man needs to open up, he can do it with therapist (professional, yet expensive) or in the internet via throwaway account (cheap).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:47 AM
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What's so cool about puberty regardless of gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:38 PM
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Oh, I should have mentioned something about promoting physical harm and choking is one of the most dangerous BDSM practices. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:47 AM
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This is an idiotic and archaic argument based on religion. Yes such people exists and hate porn not from misandrist positions but aa ultra conservative old style puritanism. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:07 PM
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I don't agree with him. I detest conservatives and religious redpillers probably more than reddit feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:36 PM
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Not all antiporn is misandrist. I said usual, not always
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:19 PM
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I can only quote Agent Smith: "never send a human to do a machine's job" Human actors in porn should be replaced with AI and/or 3D animation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:23 PM
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I'm with you if they use victims of trafficking, blackmail people or dare to touch minors. But I covered these in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:11 PM
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So is alcohol. Computer games. Many pleasant things are bad, especially in excess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:09 PM
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I don't think we should "improve dating". Men under-appreciate single lives. We should stop prioritizing women and stop making them goal of our life. While your thoughts are orbiting around women, dating, how it is unfair - you are not free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:07 PM
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Good to have them as an alternative. But what do you mean by better? Better than what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:50 PM
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This means it needs legal regulation and punishment for use of non-consented actors. I personally would just replace all human actors with AI or 3D models instead. Still antiporn crowd hates it regardless of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:50 AM
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Do you know the famous meme: My religion says I can't do it. OK My religion says you can't do it. Fckoff There is a significant difference between restricting yourself and imposing restrictions on others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:40 AM
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It is misandrist because they don't apply same reasoning to women. They act on inherent misandrist wiring that men are horny thirsty apes dreaming of violating women, while women are wonderful and do no harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:30 AM
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Everything requires moderation. Addictions are bad. Maybe we should eradicate vineyards because alcoholism exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:28 AM
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Are you talking about monkey ancestors?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:20 AM
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Porn images existed for millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:16 AM
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Personally I'd replace humans entirely with AI in this industry. This solves the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:15 AM
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I think, it is not about genitals but what is in the brain. So pure imagination can be a replacement too. Just a lot of people can't have vivid enough imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:02 AM
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Yes, when in shadow zone of legality it attracts criminal money. This is in particular a consequence of attempts to ban or restrict it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:29 AM
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I agree this is directed at both women and men who use it, yet men are always considered as the default target.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:27 AM
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It is kind of replacement. And antiporn are usually man-haters that want to deny men both sex and replacements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:15 AM
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It is very useful pretext to demonize it entirely and seek to ban/persecute as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:14 AM
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So it is not Nordic model if it doesn't persecute buyers. I think UK system is supposed to ban pimping
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:12 AM
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Johns = pimps? I thought UK has some different thing, not like Sweden, less strict
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:02 AM
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It is often just puritanical, here you are right. But often they are biassed and only attack men watching it, sex female characters, AI for men not for women. So it is gendered and usually gendered anti-men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:58 AM
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Do you mean enjoy their helpless fury and complaints? If they can regulate it like in UK, they can go further something like Nordic model punishing consumers. They can shame and smear. A lot of people are susceptible to this tactics and bow to it. They have already successfully policed gaming industry in some countries --- Anyway, every time they complain it is useful to have a counter-argument explaining their true motives
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:51 AM
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I'm not a red pill, but my experience says it is better to be single or at least live separately and don't share a budget with women. Not all women, but most available women would rather ruin men's live than improve it and make him happier. There are some exceptions, but they are usually taken
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:22 AM
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No, fidelity is not related to providing and providing is not same as purchasing a wife for harem. I know, some men use this because there are few rich enough men and lots of women who just want such men, to basically sell themselves. I find this dynamic disgusting. Therefore I equally hate male cheaters and entitled women wanting a provider man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:21 AM
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A lot of women fear and hate men while still being attracted to men and usually wanting men's resources, even feeling entitled to these resources. They do men a favor by staying single. They indeed fail to decenter men because they continue to think about men. Same as MGTOWs fail to decenter women by constantly thinking about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:15 AM
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There is no "you" One person is watching and paying. Another is shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:09 PM
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Is it assumption of based on some data?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:54 PM
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So men and women watch it. Significant amount of men don't watch it, although they are minority - this is a big enough minority to create enough slutshaming noise in the web
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:45 PM
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Do you have any numbers to support that statement? I don't think majority of men are paying for OF
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:17 PM
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Typical question: do you think that it is same men paying for OF, who shame women for this? If these men are different, there is no contradiction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:59 PM
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In the internet you can be wrong, but insist that you are right even though lots of people understand that you are wrong. I explained it clearly enough, why you are wrong. But you of course can reject the explanations. This behavior is ... not very respectable, but your reputation in PPD seems to already be quite negative. People know you are not arguing in good faith and don't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:11 AM
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So it is a win win. You stay away from men, men stay away from you. It is better for both parties
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:57 AM
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No decent men for you, sorry. But you have that wonderful feeling of moral superiority to warm your bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:59 AM
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Assumption that women want equality not just at work, but also in relationships was a big reason for me personally to support feminism like 10 years ago. Then I realized that such women exist, but they are minority at best. Wanting cake and to eat it too is much more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:48 AM
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I don't mind fat women. Not because of desperation, it just fits my tastes. I think men are usually much more diverse in their tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:00 AM
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Women are still relatives, friends, coworkers. You just don't need to be in relationships with women. Well, you can, but that's not a must.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:19 PM
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Men don't have to approach. Women are optional for man's happiness. Sometimes even detrimental. Just stop approaching and leave them alone. Focus on yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:59 PM
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I'm just explaining your logical fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:19 PM
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this is same bs as blaming abused women for choosing poorly. It is always no true Scotsman. If woman's behavior supports rp, you exclude her from the sample saying she is mentally bad. No, it is not substance abusing or mentally sick women. It is average women who behave so. And rp is based on living experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:14 PM
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Red pills is built not on what men say, but on observations of women making choices and behaving in relationships. What women say to men as dating advices is often virtue signaling rather than a practical, actionable advice. It is not specifically about women. Men do the same. Therapy is not a weakness, but no a silver bullet either. People like to throw "go to therapy" as a universal advice. Actually opening up to therapist is much better idea than speaking about such things to your woman. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:58 PM
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A lot of men are just too thirsty, sabotage themselves and other men indirectly. It fuels imbalance of value. It makes valid concern of men easy to be dismissed, ridiculed as "i-words whining". Incredible fixation of some men on getting laid makes huge disservice to all men. There are men, that think, that men are smarter than women (due to some biology). Ironically dumbest men, not smartest think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:24 PM
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Other jackasses date successfully, so this is not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:21 AM
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Text description please
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:13 AM
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Being jackass doesn't impact dating chances. Looks do and this is to a significant part due to genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:54 AM
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Not a problem, not a surprise. The question clearly has some feminist subtext. Sexist men usually don't know women worth admiring especially in tech. But then Noether is absolutely 100% in that category: * Her works are in the foundation of modern physics and Standard model in particular. * She faced significant discrimination because of her gender. Nevertheless she is almost never mentioned by feminists, probably because it is much more difficult to understand her work and realize the impact. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:52 AM
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It is a good question. I'd say Emmy Noether. Now I wonder if she knows, who is Emmy Noether :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:23 PM
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I agreed with you until this line: > There are definitely women who will not be making you perform niceness for them nor jestering for their amusement No, it is not definitely nor it is guaranteed. I agree that men shouldn't be jestering for women that are not interested. But no - there could be literally zero women who are truly interested. Men should accepted much harsher thought: it is better to be perpetually single rather than jestering and beta-buxing. A lot of men are not ready for such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:25 PM
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I've updated the post with my proposals
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:23 AM
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My gives and takes: - To address motherhood penalty for women significantly motivate fathers to stay with kids, motivate financially - tax deductions for parent that stays at home. KPI reach parity in number of parents staying with kids. This should naturally help women to get jobs and promotions without any quotas, because they are not seen as potential mothers instead of employees. - To address court bias against fathers. We have metrics that allow estimating bias of judges in family courts an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:21 AM
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I wish I could answer as a Red Pill, cuz Purple is partly red. Anyway: a lot of successful women stay single and can't find a man who is their level+ financially. There is no paradox, it is a known issue and leads to women freezing eggs. Not all women are hypergamous, yet many are. They'd rather be single for life than marry down. If marriage down happens, it may lead to bad relationships. Not just because fragile ego of a man, but also due to woman pecking him for being loser, not respecting hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:41 PM
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I lived with my wife and kids for years enduring a lot of verbal abuse, belittling, her claims that she is doing everything while I do nothing (not just work, most of income, but a lot of chores, kids homework etc but she always ignored it). A few years ago I moved abroad for job. She was furious, yet this time it was much easier to shutdown her by just pressing a red button in whatsapp. I still contributed financially of course, yet I lived away from home most of the time. And her attitude chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:17 PM
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I didn't employ RP in dating, yet my marriage experience agrees with some RP theses. Woman starts to value man, when she can lose him. This is not some theory, but practice and experience
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:55 PM
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I seriously tried. I know a few feminists how are fair and not sexist. I helped them, not just lip service, that included some donations. Nevertheless I'm very pessimistic about teaming up with feminists in general. Absolute majority are just bigoted and self-righteous
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:18 AM
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No, I'm not proposing to close schools. Welfare though is about redistribution of tax money among people and it is definitely gendered now In countries where retirement funds are government funded, it is also a redistribution from men to women - men work pay taxes, retire at older age (because it is a legal discrimination). Women live much longer after retirement. Men subsidize women through government
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:17 AM
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How is it all related to so called patriarchy, supposedly about rule of men or fathers. Patriarchy is such a vague ill-defined term that is being plugged into every hole. Either to be used as a boogeyman to demonize men. Or to virtue-signal: someone using word patriarchy is signalling that he or she is on the progressive side of the discourse. No, patriarchy doesn't hurt men, women or anyone - it is long gone and the word itself lost all the objective meaning except identifying your ideological …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:55 PM
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Fun fact Putin: declared 2024 to be a year of family in Russia. By the end of 2024 Russia reached the 3rd place in divorces with 80% of marriages ending in divorces and new lows in fertility rate. That says something about efficiency of such moves to support traditional values.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:25 AM
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It certainly does exist, but it is decentralized and poorly defined. Yet it already has political implications and notable politicians start to notice men as a group. They don't yet know what to propose them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:21 PM
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what I said. Ignoring men should cause pain. Otherwise taxpayers money will still be prioritized to anything but men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:01 PM
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Men vote. Until ignoring men causes politicians to lose elections, they will continue to ignore men and prioritize women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:58 PM
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Try reading comments above
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:56 PM
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It is approximately where women's movement was century ago. It is gaining significant popularity and is widely hated as feminists were hated until they actually started winning (1970th) A quote often attributed to Ghandi but invented before him by some trade-unionist: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. We are transitioning from stage 2 to stage 3 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:51 PM
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She opened a shelter for abused men. Feminists stalked her, sent her threats and poisoned her dogs. So feminists of the days they haven't insitutional power on their side resorted to destructive and low key terrorist tactics. Why should men abide the rules and avoid excessive harm in the beginning of their way towards male emancipation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:43 PM
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Then Google it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:41 PM
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(some) men do it. There is a significant push-back against men doing it. In general, there is an important step to recognize ourselves as a part of political group with shared interests and no political representation yet. And it requires organization. Men doing that are blamed for misogynists, evil manosphere, whiny i-words etc yet they start to recognize who they are, who their enemies are organize and vote. This votes are so far not very constructive as there is no politicians that represent …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:41 PM
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For taxpayers money. Largest charity that was intended for men's issues "Movember" was de-facto stolen and now funds feminist activities. Creating something for men is tricky and sometimes outright dangerous. Check the story of Erin Pizzey and her shelter for male victims of abuse. It is not that easy. Some men try and the fact they don't win yet is due to lack of institutional support and rather significant pushback. So at this point men's movement needs to be in political opposition too, as do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:33 PM
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So when western women are asked about how are women oppressed bring up Afghanistan women. How is it different from Ukraine men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:25 PM
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To ban conscription/draft as modern slavery To ban male genital mutilation To ban discriminatory practices at workplace against men To have equal retirement age (in some countries applicable) et.c. Men do fight to solve specific issues, yet it is not so easy as virtually no political force is backing men as a group. Conservatives are not men's friends (there is a widespread delusion regarding that). Issues that you listed are certainly achievement for feminism. Yet as feminism scores victories t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:21 PM
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When people talk about "patriarchy" and "systemic oppression of women" does it seem like they are solving specific problems and issues or exhibiting victim mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:17 PM
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Where is the boundary and where do you draw the line between recognizing being disadvantaged and victim mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:09 PM
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Usually there is no such metric, so all these comparisons are subjective BS and Oppression Olympics
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:49 PM
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Aknowledging and solving problems doesn't require measuring who has it worse. Rhetoric like problem A is not as bad as B is practically downplaying of B as not priority and OK to be ignored. Men are quite fed up with their problems being "not real", "not systemic", "not as bad", "male privilege" - this is all the all too familiar ways to shutdown any complaints, grievances and basically ignore men and what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:47 PM
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Then you took your personal anecdotal experience and subjective judgment and made a generic statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:20 PM
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Any such comparison is subjective and thus worthless, unless you have some objective measurable metric. You haven't Any statement like "Women have it worse than men" or "Men have it worse than women" achieves nothing but stirring more gender wars. It doesn't solve any problem and causes more feud. I'd go so far as to declare Oppression Olympics like this non grata unless supported with objective metric that can be independently tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:15 PM
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Note that absolute majority of women in comments supported claim 1. Are they all averse to marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:12 PM
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So this is your catch 22. Men complain that women don't like him You say: be nice to women. They try and fail. Come back to complain that it is not working You say: but you tried to be nice to get laid, this is not genuine. Men can't win. Whatever they do is bad and it is of course their fault, never women's standards or shallow preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:14 AM
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Then why gaslighting men that marriage is better for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:02 AM
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He tries to be nice as you told.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:44 AM
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So lets trace your line of thinking. Guy says he has little luck with ladies. You tell him to be nice, because everyone wants to around nice people. Makes sense > Would you like to be friends with someone unpleasant, annoying, and self-centered? Roommates? Co-workers? Family? He tries. Than you (in OP) claim that women never told men to be nice to get laid. This is obviously a lie - you specifically do it in comments: > Who told men being nice would lead to sex? And when he tries and fails, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:39 AM
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My life actually improved when I stopped cohabitating and moved away (abroad). Yet I can be an outlier here. I think the metrics of "men benefit from marriage" omit some important things affecting male mental health like wanting peace, silence and personal space. A lot of women complain about men hiding from them at work, garage or bathroom. Not talking, not opening, not spending time together. There are far going speculations that these things are necessary for male mental health. But what if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:09 AM
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There is some truth in it - there is a propaganda of marriage to women. But isn't "men benefit from marriage more" a propaganda of marriage to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:36 AM
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That makes sense. But what if they are not co-habitating? Woman pushing for them to start living together (that is often considered as a step towards ring)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:11 AM
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Or maybe #1 is not really reflecting benefits but: Metrics that are just easy to track. Metrics that affected pre-selection. Men that are healthy and stable are more likely to be married, i.e. cause and consequence may be swapped. Most adverse effects from marriage to men are from divorce. Lookup suicide rates of divorced spouses. Divorced men do it much more often than men in general. However this could be attributed to not-married men. Because they do it not while married, but after. However, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:33 AM
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Regarding "men finding their own identity to embrace without it involving women and relationships in it" - I hear this very often, but I take it with a big grain of salt. Men are not allowed to have male only clubs, women come with law enforcement to make men accept women. Men are not allowed to replace women with porn, AI or sex-workers all these things receive lots of pushback from the feminists and women in general. This is not better than pushback against cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:44 AM
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That's true, but just part of truth. Single life became much more comfortable than before. People used to absolutely need relationships and marriage. Now they are optional. Women's emancipation was in particular about emancipation from men and marriage. Woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle. And then lots of gender wars in very gendered portrayal of abuse and inequality. This manifests in how they think that men benefit from marriage, while women lose. How male victims of abuse ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:25 AM
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This seems to be a balanced and sane approach. Thanks! If at least women agreed to "both men and women benefit from stable LTR" it could be much more constructive than insisting that men benefit from it, while women lose or at least don't benefit. Unfortunately we are now approaching a negative sum game situation when stable and fulfilling relationships are so rare, abusive, toxic are so common that it makes sense for both men and women to say they are statistically losing in relationships, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:11 AM
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Okay, apparently number of women that state they want marriage is dropping (nobody brought the links, but polls say so).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:45 AM
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which data and what exactly opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:17 AM
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If the data you mention is correct and men indeed benefit from marriage more, why women seem to be much more interested and men are avoiding it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:13 AM
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This is possible. Yet if the women making claim #1 not just exist (maybe they indeed don't want to get married themselves) but are also correct in their claim, then in general men should be much more interested in getting married. But it doesn't seem so. Because women from group 2 are very loud and visible, yet men desperately desiring marriage with their gf are not seen anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:11 AM
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Sorry, doesn't make sense. They don't want just commitment, but formal marriage, ring and all the other fancy stuff. And if men need it more, why women demand it much more?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:06 AM
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Sorry, but this doesn't answer the post Do you think men need marriage more? If yes, why women demand it from men? Basically you do it here as you say men must marry soon
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:55 AM
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Not all men are that simple. Some are. Those who are tend to smear all men as thirsty creeps
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:24 AM
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So do men. And men can't get that (being chosen) either. But women want unobtainable men or sleep with men out of their league and get dumped. Then later women realize they need a family, so they settle to some average man with a decent salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:08 AM
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Governments discriminate men (via laws). So do NGOs and powerful international organizations. UN is notoriously antimen. It is not some fringe internet groups as you try to portray
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:05 AM
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So you basically said men need to be nice. And regardless of pursuing casual or LTR nice guys are considered creeps and bad guys get femalу attention
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:03 AM
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misandry and misogyny is not about some haters in the internet. Both are quite widespread and existed before internet
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:46 PM
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I don't think it is men who do it, but mostly conservative or misogynist men. Because their morals dictate that sleeping around is sin, and misogynists just want to bash women. Btw many women slutshame too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:19 PM
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If you post link to video, please be so kind and explain what it is about
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:17 PM
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It is told differently. It is not a promise of sex for niceness. At least, usually there is no such direct connection. However, when men complain that he has trouble finding love, people (women and white knights) paradrop into the thread to tell him, that's because he is bad personality, sexist, doesn't see women as humans et.c. I.e it is not be nice to get laid. It is you don't getting laid because you are not nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:16 PM
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The only truth in what you say it is incomparable. Apples and Pineapples. They are different. As there is no way to compare - you can't pretend that misogyny is worse than misandry (and vice versa). Any statement that pretends that misogyny or misandry is worse than other is basically downplaying some experience of opposite sex. And women/feminists who downplay misandry this way are destroying what's left of feminism's moral highground - seen as a bunch of hypocrites. This makes the right-wing o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:16 AM
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Easier and less drama for sure. But how do you define "better"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:05 PM
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misandry is widespread among both women and men. It motivates lots of actual legal discrimination (conscription, retirement age), bias in courts - men on average receive 60% harsher punishment for same crimes. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:48 AM
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I interpret this as: men who can cheat away from women stop being useful sources of material resources for women and government.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:43 AM
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You basically support or defend women doing the same thing you blame men for. Or maybe because they are older. So are you sexist or ageist? Your claim that women are older is dubious btw. Authors might write about little boys, because appeal to "protection of children" is a common pretense when scaremongering and demanding bans
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:07 AM
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Why should they? Are they masochistic? Or are you sadistic to imply they have to continue doing something that is pointless? AI can be called copium, but it is clearly lesser evil as many people won't get relationships and fulfilling relationships specifically. It is ironic how women call such men i-words, mock and ridicule them for trying. Yet when they find an alternative solutions, women blame men for not trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:33 PM
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I don't see how giving women more motivation to fight makes them abandon feminists. You literally give them reason to radicalize and support feminists. Banning abortion is revitalizing feminism. However, I think as a bargaining chip it can potentially work. E.g. other evil men (Trump, MAGA) took womens rights. We don't care really, as women don't care about men. However we can situationally support them if they also support us. Not be allies of feminism in the way they understand it (men deemed …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:25 PM
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Some AI users might indeed be that ... simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:14 PM
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So when women have options it is good, when men have options it is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:08 PM
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So it is easier and less drama apparently. How is it a downside? Why chose harder and riskier way?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:41 PM
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Why? Chatbot is an adaptation mechanism. People don't want to suffer and prevail, they want to be happy even if single. They pick a form of entertainment that fills the gap. How is different from using sextoys and imagining a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:24 PM
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1 makes some sense. Men pick AI out of desperation. At least some do. However there was a research that a lot of boys actually PREFER AI to real girls. Because less toxic and no drama, or maybe because they are in charge. But I can imagine most of them just didn't had any real GF at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:18 PM
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I didn't cherry pick. I used the articles that search gave me. The only articles I dropped from sample were directly mentioning and praising specific AI services as these were blatant advertising. People use "protect kids" narrative when they need a pretext to call for banning something they dislike. However, the age difference can be real: men are least valued in the youngest age, when they have no stability, money or confidence. Women start with most value and lose it past 30. So demand for AI…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:11 PM
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They can ban specific AI services though. Just ban websites. Also you ignore the main thing and concentrate on AI as if it is only about AI
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:01 PM
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Note, how authors scaremonger and call to regulate/ban. In UK this is a trend to "protect children". Also it is not about AI specifically it highlights how different people see male and female independence from the opposite sex/relationships. And this is a huge elephant in the room most people prefer to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:54 PM
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Also if you read the articles, it looks like authors are glad that women can have fun with AI lads instead of exhausting dating with organic men. They DO care about women's wellbeing and regard AI to be positive for women's wellbeing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:46 PM
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I don't think they are doing it intentionally to push the agenda. I think it exposes their sexist biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:40 PM
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My personal mental well-being improved when I moved abroad from my wife. Seriously, I was on AD before that. So not having to deal with women and no drama is better for men's mental health. So AI girlfriends are solution, not a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:37 PM
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This technically can be explained this way, yet it is not plausible (people are typically more obsessed with women's well-being)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:35 PM
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I'd say the old misogyny is based in dreams of superiority (men should be masters in society and family as more intelligent and natural leaders). New misogyny is much more reactive and closer to oppressed hates oppressors. Men now have real valid reasons to think they are discriminated group. Hence they hate women from victims' position. It is not valid to say that men's troubles are caused solely by women, it is not that simple. Yet old and new misogyny are fundamentally different, while social…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:06 PM
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Any kind of comparison of woes of women and men is actually counterproductive and leads to pointless Oppression Olympics and channeling energy into this quite useless activity leads us nowhere. I oppose claims of misandry worse than misogyny the same way I hate feminists' downplaying misandry as less serious or not systemic unlike misogyny. There is no objective impartial ways to measure them. We should just agree that both are bad. I'd only support "misandry is worse than misogyny" as a rhetori…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:59 PM
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My practical experience and experience of other men says that without harsh boundaries, maintaining your value and keeping it clear that you can't be taken for granted relationships will be one sided with women on pedestal and man constantly blamed and devalued. Women can deny this, because this knowledge makes men less prone to manipulation, yet this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:13 PM
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We got along quite good. We had lots of shared topic of interest and good chemistry. With marriage it wasn't that good actually, especially in the beginning. I'd say first years were hell. And it only started to get better when I first seriously threatened divorce - her behavior changed for a while. Yet full solution was to actually move out and live part time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:06 PM
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I was with my 1st GF for four years and I left her eventually. My marriage is better than before (when we lived together full time)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:55 PM
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Not OP, but previous comment that implies that the "dark" tricks are only needed in relationships with women that aren't good to you. Call me cynical, yet I think there are practically no good people in that sense. And of course this applies to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:36 PM
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True, but lots of people really don't know a difference and if man is not liberal-feminist type and somewhat in counter-culture they assume all these labels at once even of they are mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:50 PM
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Maybe. Yet it is not as simple as two types. People that are not checking all the liberal boxes are often lumped in a "maga redpill incel conservative wana-be-a-patriarch sexist" pile. In fact the group of people deemed conservative is very ideologically diverse and much less ideologically rigid, thus able to politely disagree about some things, while agreeing about other things. Leftists usually lack that ability and disagreeing over one thing they consider each other enemy. If left was some mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:43 PM
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Why high quality must be trad? It is not necessary to be conservative/religious/rightwing et.c Just realize which attitudes actually help navigating relationships with women in practice, not in theory (i.e. don't listen to women saying what is working, watch what is actually working). Besides that you can support gender equality, pro-choice and other typically liberal things
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:36 PM
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It would be fair to say - there are some actual reasons people believe in God (regardless of whether he exists) and this belief yields some benefits. People can be delusional, but this delusion is not necessarily harmful for them, it can be beneficial by shaping their behavior. So the TRP. It is full of BS, lots of con-men who try to fleece men by selling them how to be alpha. Yet if it wasn't working in relationships, men would quit it. TRP may be a mistake as idea, yet empirically it is helpfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:33 PM
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I agree with the second part, but this hypothesis of good women that are fair, nice and never try to test boundaries, take advantage of you feels like Just World Fallacy. Conflicts are inevitable. Women are people like men with all the same dark sides, not angels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:29 PM
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I agree. It is kind of funny how they simultaneously want men to be doormats (at least verbally claiming that men should be soft) and in the same time despise, disrespect these doormats, actively preferring, loving and clinging to men with a backbone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:15 PM
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My wife started to value me and my contribution when I finally moved to other country (and I still live and work most of the time abroad). While we were together she was constantly devaluing me, complaining. Now she often tells how much she loves and misses me. My first GF had verbal fights with me. One time I was helping her carry heavy luggage when she was moving. When she started to quarrel I just put the luggage on the ground and went away. She was very angry, but learned a lesson and change…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:58 PM
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Yes, a few times. And I'm not a frequent club goer. In senior school a girl called my friend gay for refusing to dance with her. My 1st gf and my wife went ballistic when I was not up for sex or sleeping with her (literally sleeping, I preferred to sleep in separate bed) It is not what you say, because it is not an exact mirror of male behavior. Yet it is toxic and unability to take rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:33 AM
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> Women ignore men they're not interested in. They're polite, they dont lead on a man theyre not attracted to. They dont bully men online who they aren't attracted to. I call BS. Can you back your statement with some stats? Also women sometimes make advances towards men, and some women are very bad at taking no for answer. They throw tantrums, make up false allegations or at best call you gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:22 AM
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Leftwing politicians and talking heads should be punished until they change and notice men. Including by voting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 10:29 AM
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They are just blaming and demonizing men instead of asking why do they behave this and if men explain - they totally ignore the concerns and blow up with "misogyny" "toxic masculinity" nonsense
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/26 10:20 AM
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I guess, this is about gender wars mostly. A decade ago, when I was much more idealistic and optimistic, I thought, that it is possible. * Build a community that rejects radicals and values moderation in views: someone on the other side that is willing to talk, understand and compromise is much more valuable, than someone on your side that is overly zealous. * Reject talks about privilege, oppression, who is more and less oppressed. Speak of specific issues, not about who is more systemically op…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:38 AM
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Paper abortion shouldn't be free or used as a contraception replacement. Like medical abortion shouldn't be treated so. It is an extraordinary step and lesser evil. It should require significant fee/payment. x1000 of condom or more, but less than child support for years. It should require some approval and justification. Obviously yes if woman used lies, persuasion or coercion. Obviously no if man is just careless and this is not the first time he applies for PA. --- Right now women have reprodu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:41 AM
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What about homophobic women?
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/26 05:20 AM
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I personally don't degrade you. I replied and stated that it is better to stay single for everyone. In particular due to how much you hate us. Then you jumped in to claim that it is menbad, not womenbad. You hate men, why do YOU care if men don't want you either?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:14 PM
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So women and men are de-facto enemies. You hate us, why do you expect anything else in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:03 PM
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The level of vitriol towards men is huge and it is somehow considered normal. Even encouraged. You only notice misogyny and not misandry, because misandry is your normal state
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:01 PM
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women pushed men away
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:03 PM
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I recently tried to make a post here and mods declined it. Probably didn't even read it :(
/r/MensRights28/05/26 09:27 AM
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It is not about bathroom time. It is about invading any boundaries that men dare to set. Women can't handle the fact that not all the time of her man belongs to her. Men have no choice but to hide in bathroom, or in the car, or walking the dog. Because otherwise wife invades with talks and tasks.
/r/MensRights28/05/26 08:35 AM
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You are right, but I hate your framing about lesbians and chadsexuals. This is irrelevant. The fact they don't want you as a partner doesn't change anything is irrelevant. But what is true: women are competing with men in education and at work. Often using their gender as a free promotion card. And allying on basis of gender to compete better against men. Same in politics. Women have their political agenda and vote accordingly for politicians who support that agenda. So should do men. We need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:38 AM
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For everyone it is much easier to stay single. Not just for women. Relationships and marriage as a concept and end goal are over
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:23 AM
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Word "random" should be dropped from your title. Approaching women is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:22 AM
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The title is so nauseating why should I even click it? Can you explain with your own words the summary and how is it related to the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:25 PM
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Did you read the post or just one word from the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:23 PM
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I agree. Some anti-feminists unironically use word femosphere to smear feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:37 PM
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I think, Manosphere as a concept shouldn't be used at all. MRAs don't fit because they are about gender equality (but disagree with feminism in many nuances), they are also less focused on relationships/dating. MGTOWs are separatists (but indeed very often misogynists) they rarely complain about how hard it is to find a date, they aggressively claim that dating is not worth it. PUAs (and red-pillers) usually don't care about discrimination of men and focus on how to game women and woe as many as…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:49 PM
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They are haters who seek to denigrate a group by associating with other groups that are easier targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:29 PM
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Sorry, I misread what you said (missed the word except) mea culpa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:24 PM
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That was a blunder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:19 PM
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I would not think of you bad or low value, but there are possible bad thoughts: How to reciprocate? Finding a good gift can be stressful, not just financially but emotionally (Idk what does she need). Ulterior motives? Free cheese in mousetrap thing. For example: I know that women almost never make a first move. 100% of women that add me as friend in discord are scammers. After couple experiences I just autodecline.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:00 PM
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again, there was some unkown blogger with a book, then the term was weaponized and included groups that were absolutely ideologically foreign to that blog (MRAs, MGTOWs). Same as incel term that was coined by a woman and later taken and reframed by angry losers who are obsessed with sex which they can't get. Now everyone forgot about the origin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:37 PM
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Nope. This is not shared by all so called manosphere. Alien to MRA and MGTOW for sure. This is bushit propagated by some confluencers and used by feminists to smear MRAs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:34 PM
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Here it is purely rhetorical to help explain why manosphere is also fake. When people dislike a gender mirror, but can't explain why and retort to various vague "nuance" and no it's different!!! Well, they are just sexists with double standards, but can't admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:12 PM
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No, I won't delete this post. Haters obviously dislike their tactics exposed. Such reaction means I'm doing a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:10 PM
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Frankly speaking, I don't follow any influencers. I can't give you examples because I don't know any (not just for FDS, but in general)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:08 PM
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Yes, Female Dating Strategy. I'd say it is a closest female mirror to Andrew Tate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:59 PM
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Specific group. If you criticize men - speak about men. If you criticize specific group of men with specific ideology - name it instead of vague Manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:54 PM
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Actually this is indeed an example of Manosphere being used not by haters but as a self-definition (by someone truely obnoxious)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:52 PM
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So feminist haters can point out that feminists and FDS may overlap and agree in something. Many FDS women claim they are also feminists. Does it make Femosphere a real thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:50 PM
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So that's a point, they are about women but have nothing in common with feminists except for shared target group. I'm explaining how exactly Manosphere is a fake concept giving Femosphere as an example of similar manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:48 PM
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Because this common term is a propaganda bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:40 PM
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That's a good point. A concept is some abstraction, not a real world object, but a tool used for some intellectual task. So, gender, for example is a purely abstract thing. Then what is special about Manosphere concept. It is not a self-definition. Men didn't use it. It was used by their haters. Eventually some men embraced it though... It is widely used for smear and guilt by association. It is a propaganda tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:40 PM
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Then maybe quit using it? There are Mens Rights, MGTOW, I-words, PUA, Conservative trad-men. They don't share anything except all being mostly male-oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:32 PM
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These bad men exist of course and they are used to silence all men speaking against discrimination. This is unfair, intellectually dishonest tactics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:28 PM
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That's why concepts of Patriarchy, so called Male power are hostile towards men. These concepts are maintained to guilt-trip men and justify injustice against men.
/r/MensRights26/05/26 12:25 PM
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So do you agree that Manosphere is a fake concept used by haters?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:21 PM
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Club already exists. To attack it term Manosphere was created by its haters. They can't openly deny equality to men, so they use smear tactics of guilt by association.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:20 PM
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I've made a separate post about why Manosphere is not a thing, but a manipulative made-up concept created by haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:16 PM
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Manosphere doesn't exist. This a term coined by haters to describe all the online male groups of drastically different types. What if someone described feminists, tradwives and FDS as a "femosphere" and thus said that women want to be parasites and drain resources from men, then apply this to feminists as a part of femosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:56 AM
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I would certainly be careful about his red flags, not jump on him if he is very tall and handsome, acting dominant and super confident as women do. I'd notice his attitude towards those who are weak, conflict and anger management, his ability to cook/clean/organize his life. How he behaves when I'm sick/on periods. I understand concerns about physical disadvantage and risk of violence. But I call BS when you claim this is the reason you reject men. You reject men who are relatively safe in favor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:06 AM
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Yes. Still it is an escape from responsibility. If paper abortion is not cheap and thus painful - they will be on par.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:11 AM
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We don't need men like Andrew Tate. He is a grifter and con artist. He is only good for demonization of men and male rights movement. But we do indeed need radicalization. Not the way you propose. It shouldn't be about better playing women to date and fuck them. We should decenter women and focus on men, our careers, our happiness, our political power. Help each other (including boys in education, lonely men that need friends company, help men get hired and promoted when institutions are pushing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:47 AM
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So is abortion (medical)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:40 AM
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Looks like you are defeating a strawman here. Who demands submission from you? It is very convenient to project "they want patriarchy and subjugation of women" on to your opponents instead of actually arguing with their real arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:44 PM
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Brave or foolhardy? There are risks of social consequences of a failure outcome or even in case of success (some relationships are abusive, marriages ending in brutal divorce etc). Just ignoring risks is stupidity, not bravery
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:02 AM
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Yes, misandrists should stay single and keep away from men.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/05/26 10:53 AM
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There is no controversy. Both are objectifying people as useful for marriage (as betabux or free house work). The only reason it is not seen as insult is because a lot of women still consider marriage as a strategic goal of LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:52 AM
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If you need to pay a hefty fee which is 1000x price of a condom - no. Still it is much less than child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:16 AM
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This shouldn't be a replacement to contraception. I.e. there should be consequences (significant one time fee). Possibly require approval or justification: e.g. stealthing or condom sabotage, or lies about being on pill. Last but not least - this should be once in lifetime option. After this you must be paranoid enough to never trust "I'm on pills, let's do it raw"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:42 AM
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Women in general. This doesn't apply to some third world countries though. E.g. obvious not true for Afghanistan and similar shitholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:27 AM
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Paper abortions should be an option for both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:08 AM
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Live longer, get better education outcomes, receive more in benefits while paying less taxes, receive less punishment for same crimes, are exempt from draft in most countries, retire earlier while living longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:08 AM
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You forgot to mention one important thing. Even acknowledging that men are discriminated in some way is met with extreme hostility and claims that there is no institutional/systemic misandry or discrimination of men. The biggest root cause is supreme victimhood of women. Ideology is built upon women being victims and men oppressors. Anything that doesn't fit this dogma is rejected. The problem is not in the specific cases but in the way of their thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:02 AM
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this is no true Scotsman. When academic feminists are misandrists you deflect it in similar fashion. As there is no solid definition of what is feminist, you always can claim the "not true feminist" when feminists ares shitty bigots
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:02 PM
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not for equality, but for his own image of a nice guy by throwing other men under the bus
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:04 AM
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but it is not a redpill hub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:35 PM
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When male spaces are created, you run crying for police/mods to ban these spaces for supposedly misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:27 PM
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You don't ask random strangers but a group which identifies with certain idea/label What is so inflamatory about these questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:27 PM
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It isn't Even when asked in non-feminist space, but in generic reddit sub like polls typical answers will be: Misandry is not an issue (it is not systemic/only online/deserved because menbad). Discrimination of men is OK, because it is to dismantle patriarchy Downplay male victims of abuse, claim it is always by other men. If it is asked at feminists spaces, it will be much worse. They'll insult you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:10 PM
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With this I can agree. Not all women are feminists. And not even all feminists are bigots. I know exceptions, but these are sadly rare
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:48 AM
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Male feminists are typically twice as biassed and hateful compared to female feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:47 AM
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Both is true. Feminism was certainly a progressive force that brought some necessary changes. And is still necessary to combat attempts to cut female body autonomy rights etc Still its adherents are mostly a hate group. And they actively hinder equality for men. This is not the beautiful definition of feminism, but actual status quo. They are a hate group now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:46 AM
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You are answering these questions, which is fine, but what if you ASK them? What kind of reaction would you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:43 AM
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Stop crying about it. Vote in administration that will ban it as a hate-group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:02 AM
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Also check rabid reaction to Pence rule (men self protection from disastrous libel at workplace)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:01 AM
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https://thefeminismproject.com/featured/the-controversy-around-male-only-spaces-why-feminists-oppose-them/ Feminist stance on male only spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:00 AM
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To gauge the opinion of majority of people that identify as feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:57 AM
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Then why do you invade male spaces, ban them and portray them as sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:55 AM
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While I generally agree, your post is pure blame and thus lacking value. What should men do instead to not enable hoeflation? The most important question is "What to do?" instead of "Who. to blame?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:16 AM
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Sample is large enough If you think this sample is bad and not representative, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:53 AM
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Women online are just mask-off. Anonymity allows them to tell what they really think, not pretending to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:52 AM
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Feminists deny misandry (as not systemic). Feminists deny that men can be discriminated on basis of the gender. Feminists support discrimination of men in treatment of DV (Duluth model) and in jobs (affirmative action). This all has been asked at r/askfeminists and they are always hostile to anyone asking such questions. I dare you to go there and ask one of these questions if you don't trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:28 AM
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Whenever male issues are involved women gang up to downvote, deny and play oppression olympics. They victim blame, bring up imaginary patriarchy as "it is all your fault". And of course they deny and downplay misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:26 AM
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Do you know the concept of statistical sample? You don't need to test all set if you can test a randomized subset. Askfeminists if a sample of all feminists. And they are mostly horrible hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:23 AM
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They have no definitions for these. So they always can wiggle and move the goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:21 AM
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Just listen to women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:06 PM
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There is no point. If you like this particular man and you get along - date him. There is no guarantee that you two will stay together forever. This is a mirror of typical male complaint: why marry if divorces are so frequent and women file most of the divorces. Men have no guarantees either. If you only want to date men on condition that he 100% stays with you forever - don't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:23 PM
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What you say is a strawman. Aging by itself is not improving your value. But activities that improve value of men (education, career, investment) take time. So in the age of 18 you are considered low value. If you invest in yourself instead of chasing women, then your value will go up. It doesn't work magically, it requires effort. And time. Still RP point is valid - men can grow in value with age, women don't because they are valued for qualities that only deteriorate with age regardless of wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:18 PM
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There are women than recognize male issues and help. Female MRAs. Not feminists. Feminists actually do harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:13 PM
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Okay, not all feminists but overwhelming majority of those who identify as feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:12 PM
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UN is misandrist as always, nothing new
/r/MensRights16/05/26 07:19 AM
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Women being stupid in the movie is immediately sexism, misogyny arrrgh ban and cancel. Yet misandry in movies is considered normal and nobody cares. That's why all the stupid characters are usually men. Women are allowed to be negative, but never embarrassing
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/26 10:28 AM
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Yes, women want confidence not assholes. Here you are correct. But you are wrong, because these are strong correlates and women themselves often confuse them. I.e. being asshole, playing games, being manipulative et.c. helps because it will be interpreted as being confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:45 PM
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I think, I gave some explanations in previous comments. And it is indeed not "women oppress men". A lot of haters imply this is MRAs belief, but this is a strawman
/r/MensRights09/05/26 11:27 AM
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It matters who hold power, but not their gender. Their views are important. There are misandrist and gynocentrist men, there a women that defend mens rights.
/r/MensRights09/05/26 11:19 AM
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it is about discrimination of men (or women) and people who perpetrate, support and enable it. It is not a gender war
/r/MensRights09/05/26 11:17 AM
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It is not implemented by men specifically, but indeed men are more often at the decision making positions. It doesn't mean this gives any benefit to men in general, on the opposite: benefits and protection of women is seen as virtuous. It gives political points. Despite men in power, no political power cares about mens interests, but a lot of them openly align with women. women are majority of voters and majority of purchasers (pissing women is much more dangerous than being seen as antimen). A …
/r/MensRights09/05/26 10:50 AM
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it is not women vs men, it is gender norms, expectations, laws and bias against men - in particular supported by women. Patriarchy is a vague boogeyman. Matriarchy doesn't exist. Both bad and fuel each other. Postgender world is OK to me. Not sexless beings, but gradual extinguishing social norms related to gender. When we upload our minds in machine, gender will be irrelevant :) Draft is slavery. It would be unfair and not practical. I believe in meritocracy and abolishing of the gender. People…
/r/MensRights09/05/26 09:54 AM
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Positive masculinity is not a new concept. Basically it is a rebranding of the "Real men do X" While it was an attempt to address the complain of denigrating masculinity by only talking about so called toxic masculinity it has predictably failed to appeal to men and claim them back to feminism. It is not necessary a scam, though. Scam is something malicious. Most feminists are not necessarily malicious towards men. They are just bound by ideology and can't think out of its box.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:43 PM
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I know about Movember. Do you think that a man would be automatically friend to MR? Lots of men are hostile to us and support most toxic strains of feminism.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 09:45 PM
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Cassie Jaye, C Hoff Sommers, Honey Badger Brigade - all are women that made a lot of work for mens rights.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 09:43 PM
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with all due respect, if men don't tell about being victims of abuse, stats will be skewed and men will be again considered always perpetrators never victims. A lot of women indeed take discrimination of men seriously and we don't have to be hostile to them, unless we have evidence of their hostility
/r/MensRights06/05/26 08:52 PM
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I'm glad to see women who come here in peace. Hostility of some men is understandable, though
/r/MensRights06/05/26 08:43 PM
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How to sign up?
/r/MensRights06/05/26 05:29 PM
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Ah, typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:40 AM
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I don't think it is related to red pill and relationships (red pill is mostly about relationships). Men started to recognize themselves as a group, discriminated group. And this had political consequences. Leftist governments are losing ground to right populism, because they used to shit on men and now came the reckoning. Their usual propaganda is not working in young men, they lose the war for hearts and minds. And now they are afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:47 PM
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just read the comments, it was said many times already
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:26 AM
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Not being too invested is still good idea in established relationships. You need balance or you are losing value. You don't need to shit test her. But not pedestalize either. If you overvalue and overinvest, you will be taken for granted and not good enough for such a goddess. Dominance games are bad, but it is not about being dominant. It is about not being dormat. Vulnerability as weakness? This is tricky. Yes, theoretically you should be open and vulnerable. But a lot of men tell from experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:14 AM
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Again based on mostly online observations people that are most obsessed with relationships have zero experience. They tend to idealize something they haven't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:41 PM
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They literally go to dates and hold these views.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:01 PM
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I don't think it necessarily converts to success as they age. But still the fact is contradicting the common talking point that incels are undateable because of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:55 AM
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It is pretty hilarious how you jump from denial to shaming tactics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:06 AM
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I think, that denying women equal opportunity in job and equal pay for equal work is hostile AF. It is not chivalry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:05 AM
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In social way. Not brute physical force.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:15 AM
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This is one of the biggest blue-pill delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:04 AM
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More careful or more afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:00 AM
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Of course. Kids are not always ideologically close to parents. Yet kids themselves sort themselves into different groups and hang out with like minded. Probably "conservative" kids are more outgoing, more successful in dating, less screen time and less gender segregated. While liberal kids are more solitary and more divided by gender
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:07 AM
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Sounds plausible. Outgoing bros that don't have much screen time hang out with friends, get dates and hold on to gender norms and against even basic gender equality. But the big takeaway - it doesn't stop them from dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:44 AM
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I'm not speaking about birth rates here. Dating and relationships is not necessary marrying and making babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:37 AM
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It can be an explanation. While progressives hate each other and progressive women and men live perpetually single, conservatives continue to live as they lived before - less screen time, more human interaction. And they hold up to gender stereotypes too, but apparently this never stopped our ancestors from mating. So pockets of the old world continue to date and continue to perpetuate gender normativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:11 AM
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what exactly is wrong or incoherent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:06 AM
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So you speak about some specific gaming culture not games in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:01 AM
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He provides the open source scripts and data links: https://github.com/dawaldron/boys-gender-equality Data retrieval url: https://www.icpsr.umich.edu/web/NAHDAP/series/35?q=
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:00 AM
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Look specifically at the dynamics last years. He speaks about degradation in the last years - and it is faster among non-gamers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:59 AM
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Maybe some men don't value real relationships and want just sex... However, a significant amount of men (and women too) already think that AI partners are superior to flesh and bone. Even without body, just chatbots. AI can indeed pretend to love you and play as your gf. And of course generate "nudes". This can somewhat resemble long distance relationship. I think, the biggest competition advantage of AI is not what it can do, but what it can't do. It can't be mean, abusive, cheating, no nagging…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:51 AM
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Empathetic gender is empathetic.
/r/MensRights03/05/26 06:31 AM
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Both are objectively false. Typically old misogynist men don't hate women, they deem themselves natural leaders, smarter sex, while women as primitive and naturally subservient sex. This kind of misogyny still exists, but is fading away slowly. But women much more often hate men so much, they dream about extermination of men. Modern misogyny is male reaction to discrimination and non stop misandry spread by media, women and feminists. It is a defensive reaction of the group of people that are mi…
/r/MensRights02/05/26 06:30 PM
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Do women even care? I mean, majority of women seemingly decentered men long ago and don't care if men go away. Some women complain online that men don't approach, but these women seem to be a minority.
/r/MensRights02/05/26 04:07 PM
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Literally women here are arguing that men must pay. The fact that men are broke doesn't change the fact, that women are entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:54 PM
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Women can have unreasonable standards, but this something that we can't change. As long as they are OK with being single rather than lowering standards, they can as unreasonable standards, as they want. Though... they will likely be pumped and dumped by players.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:53 PM
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Any such generalization is false as there are always exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:01 PM
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Entitled to men's money
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:40 PM
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Men don't owe empathy to women, but it is still a useful skill. People always confuse empathy with altruism and compassion, but it is about ability to understand others feelings. Having empathy allows you to better understand people and navigate communication. Also it helps to distinguish women who had bad experiences that were entitled and shallow from just unlucky, inexperienced and naive. Sometimes showing compassion to women is good idea, sometimes not. It depends
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:49 AM
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I don't think this discussion is constructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:35 AM
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And it doesn't make OPs claim valid. They are not thinking women are into them. More often they think that absolutely no woman would be into them, unless he is rich, tall, superfit. I.e they are underestimating, not overestimating themselves in contrary to OPs claim. They may believe this is unfair and women have too high standards. But still they don't believe women may ever like them (which is breaking OPs claim)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:17 AM
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The issue might indeed be not with them, this irrelevant. Yet they understand women don't want them and are not like OP described.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:06 AM
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OP said men believe they are always sexy and wanted. I argue that group of men have underconfidence, not overconfidence. You say they are jaded and think womens standards are unrealistic. How does it support OPs claim? These men still think they are below these standards and are not overconfident
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:02 AM
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I mean, that men from group two are indeed bitter and jaded, think women have overinflated egos and looking down on men in general (as you say). But it is not because menbad, but because of their experience with women. (Some) Women are unapologetically mean, entitled and misandrist. Men listen, learn and generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:53 AM
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Also, behavior of women here in this sub perfectly supports views, that most women are just entitled misandrists. In fact, not all women are like that, but they are usually taken. Young women are increasingly misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:25 AM
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come on, they just need to justify their misandry and despise all men as a group. They don't need any nuance. If men are not like she imagine, they are just liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:17 AM
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So you selectively take facts that agree with your misandrist views and plain reject anything that doesn't fit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:07 AM
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Not necessary. But some do Anyway their existence breaks the statement in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:06 AM
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nope. How sex is tied with bill on a date? If you don't want sex, you are not obligated to sleep with him. It exactly filters parasitic mindset that men must pay for women. Nothing else. Courting is just an euphemism for parasitism and double standards in the age of supposed gender equality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:03 AM
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You are certainly wrong. Proof: number of men that never approached women. https://myunboundedlife.com/relationship/study-finds-45-of-young-men-have-never-approached-a-woman-whats-behind-this-dating-shift/ By this study it is around 45% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:54 AM
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I disagree. There are basically two opposite trends in men. 1 group is over confident, they don't take no for an answer, they deem themselves perfect hunks and think every woman is wet for them. They interpret politeness as flirting and flirting as invitation to sex. 2 group of men believe they are so ugly, they have zero sexappeal and zero chances. They listen to women (who mostly tell men to gtfo). They got rejected and quit the scene. I don't have numbers to estimate which group is larger, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:49 AM
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It filters out entitled nicegirls. Ideally say it not when the bill comes, but in advance, before the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:41 AM
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That's good that likes of you are filtered out. BTW OP explicitly said he doesn't want to betabux and be provider
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:01 AM
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It filters such women and it is a good thing. Entitled women that want to use man as a wallet because it is somehow romantic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:00 AM
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Because men don't need women either. Men can cover all their needs without involving women. Just forget about them and improve your single life. Genuine desire is quite rare, entitlement is still much more common. Even if she can do well without man, she has a lot of expectations from him. Because she believes that just by entering relationships she is doing him a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:16 PM
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Nothing will change. They nurtured misandry and will continue to do it (while denying it exists, blaming men, patriarchy or anything else but themselves )
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 12:54 PM
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Thanks! Your efforts are very important!
/r/MensRights30/04/26 10:37 AM
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I don't know, as salaries are secret. When I was a manager, I could see salaries of my direct reports, but they were all guys.
/r/MensRights30/04/26 09:25 AM
7

Don't get mad at them. Just use the split bill as a filter. It effectively filters female trash on the first date.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/04/26 08:02 AM
6

I recently made a post about how specifically BP advices in combination lead into a trap. So it is possible. But most importantly in debates you are supposed to explain things to people who disagree with you. I.e BP people. Do you think they automatically agree that BP advices are stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:13 PM
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While I generally agree with the sentiment that BP advice is mostly useless just world fallacy seasoned with virtue signaling, I don't see any specific examples of bad BP advices. If you make a post with criticism of BP - be specific, what kind of advices and why are they bad. Otherwise it is low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:33 PM
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And thats my point. Women live comfortably enough and don't need men to improve their lives. Who would enter relationships that are not making their lives better? Single life of women is already good enough. Men should do the same - improve their single lives and decenter women. Women are not necessary for happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 09:29 AM
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It is not due to demands. It is due to women don't need men anymore. The only solution for you is to not need women. You can be happy single. Singlehood is not loneliness. You can have friends, relatives, hobbies and never feel lonely. Having GF doesn't guarantee that you won't be lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:23 AM
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This is not true and easily checked by the known fact that women estimate most men as below average, same is not true for men. So it is not men who have unrealistic expectations. Well known research: https://medium.com/hello-love/women-say-80-of-men-are-below-average-bab0b8af2606
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:49 AM
5

fairness is subjective, it is a social construct invented by people. And people define what is fair differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:40 AM
7

Hard disagree. A man that thinks that he is a catch because he doesn't hit women will be immediately shamed as a niceguy. As women are afraid of men, and abuse is commonly decried male behavior, women often abuse men in relationships with impunity. Men can't self defend, men can't expect help as it is always assumed that woman is a victim, unless there is hard proof of otherwise. So no benefits for good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:25 PM
6

pedohysteria, pedohysteria never changes
/r/MensRights24/04/26 07:21 AM
3

Even if there is no derogative and cries of women being bad, hypergamous etc there is a huge pushback when men make logical implications from the facts that shatter the just world fallacy of the blue pilled advices. It is not about misogynist language, but about implications that you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:04 AM
3

So you agree with what I said in OP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:57 AM
111

So do women, who prefer LADs to real boys. And this is somehow not considered toxic, but empowering women
/r/MensRights24/04/26 04:56 AM
3

not every. not in front of each other. Just two women. Maybe a week later. But the second knows you were rejected by the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:48 AM
3

So approaching women in your offline circle is bad idea. I.e combo of typical BP advices to unsuccessful men is stupid and toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:42 AM
2

Very strong urge that can't be satisfied is destroying people. Not every urge can be satisfied. So it is a valid approach to stop his obsession. Men that don't seek women, but improve their life and have some interests aside women are seen better by women. So paradoxically, unsuccessful men that want love badly only win from "harsh truth". At least they don't look desperate and not make fools of themselves by trying to approach women. At best their perceived value improves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:40 AM
2

Stupid dating advices are usually given to men that are not successful. Successful men don't complain that they can't find a gd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:35 AM
2

So, this works exactly one time. As I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:55 PM
8

I'd say - forget about chasing women and prioritize making your single life happy. Itsover sounds too blackpilish and dramatic. While nobody died from not having a girlfriend. However overthinking and extra drama lead to spiral of despair and depression that are actually harmful. People giving men idiotic dating advices are doing harm, because they motivate people to continue doing stupid things, getting reputation of a creep and hating themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:52 PM
2

Sure. Then there is a high likelihood of failure. And then poisoned circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:49 PM
8

In fact, I rarely have negative experiences around women. It is okay, until you are in relationships or seeking relationships.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 07:07 PM
2

Yes, but didn't you just say that you found many partners this way? You said, not me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:56 PM
3

You are right in aspect that you don't need to ask out for a date, as you spend time together anyway. But then it is same, once you try to escalate and drop plausible deniability. At that point you can be rejected and this will have consequences to how others in the circle see you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:27 PM
2

The trick is - your previous success or failure seriously affects your further chances. If you were rejected, you are below bar for everyone. If you found a gf, you are approved and may be more desirable by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:05 PM
4

It surely helps to have many friends and connections. Chances to find someone are better. But still for approaching it has negative impact once you fail in the first attempt. Literally every woman in comments confirmed it. No one wants to be second. Everyone wants to be special. If girl A rejected you and you try to hit on girl B, she thinks you lowered the bar for her. A rejected this loser, how dares he think he has chances with me?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:40 PM
5

They listened to women and learned from experience. Than did some introspection and thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:30 PM
2

Sometimes yes. But when you are rejected by her, you can't have a chance with all the mutual friends. Circle is poisoned for you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:29 PM
4

So the OP is correct and dating advice is hypocritical BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:27 PM
1

So you agree with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:26 PM
2

Work is obviously bad, but people sometimes have other offline circles besides colleagues
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:21 PM
3

Lol, they have enough introspection and cold analysis to understand that it is a losing game. For them finding relationships is a humiliation ritual with no guarantees. In addition if they ever find relationships it will be likely worse than being single. As woman feels she had to lower the bar for him, disrespects him and keeps him around while he is useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:55 PM
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It doesn't work for men who unsuccessful with women. They fail often. When they try in offline circle they are likely to get rejected. And then this is closed to them. As if they continue to try, they, as you said, are going woman to woman. So it is objectively bs advice, you can't refute the pure logic, but of course can just deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:52 PM
4

Patriarchy is a vague boogeyman without falsifiable definition - precisely to make it difficult to objectively test. Useful to demonize men and always feel oppressed. 83% is comparing apples to pineapples. Not same jobs in same businesses and same responsibilities. When these are properly controlled gap shrinks to less than 2%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:49 PM
5

I know that everyone wants to feel special. That's why advice to date in friends circle is not feasible (unless you are immediately successful)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:06 PM
4

He didn't fuck anyone. He tried to date one of them. He is rejected. He starts flirting with other girl after that because he likes her. But she is hostile because she knows he previously approached other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:01 PM
5

You basically advice to do the very same thing you said is not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:48 PM
4

And when you get rejected they all know, gossip and giggle. Nothing changes. The fact that man wanted relationships not ONS doesn't change anything. If he is rejected, the circle is poisoned for him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:37 PM
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Yes. Longer pauses might alleviate the problem. Depends on how long the gossips circulate. But if man is really interested in finding a girlfriend, this effectively means he has to quit dating attempts for a long time or at least quite offline attempts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:35 PM
2

but they gossip between themselves not with men. So they keep the memory of his previous fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:33 PM
3

e.g women beliving in patriarchy and 83 cents per every dollar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:25 PM
4

Okay, women can reject him because of it. But my point that dating advices "try offline circles" + "don't despair if rejected, there are many girls" are stupid virtue signaling of BP
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:24 PM
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Not to just get laid. But friend group is a typical BP advice for men who are unsuccessful. I explain why this advise is just a stupid virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:07 PM
5

What would you think of man that constantly dismisses womens struggles as supposedly made up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:04 PM
9

Okay, reputation of a creep will certainly build up with every failure. But second in the list will already be unlikely to reciprocate as she knows she is second
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:52 PM
4

I don't say that woman should be excited to be his second attempt. This reaction is entirely predictable. But this ruins the typical advises to try dating in offline circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:50 PM
6

Asking second girl is already enough to get reputation, no need to ask all, you are already a creep
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:48 PM
3

Pause might for work. But people remember such things and gossips circulate. So you might need to wait for couple years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:46 PM
6

And like that person doesn't like you back. So what's the next step?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:42 PM
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You confuse two things: Liking many people Liking the fact that you are second best (or last in the list). People are normally attracted to many others. Both women and men. But they can be offended by the fact they are not special. There is no contradiction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:41 PM
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So women need to drop their bar eventually. Yes, there are lots of needy men. They are so needy exactly because women don't want them. To pick one of these men, woman needs to drop the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:34 PM
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This is a nice skill, but no guarantees. People (and men specifically) are famous for reading hints when there is none. In the end it is luck. And cost of the failure is much higher than people saying "The worst she can say is no" imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:32 PM
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Just read the post: The worst she can say is NO. Keep trying, there are many women. Someone would like you back. Don't use online dating, find someone in your offline circles. Individually they all look OK, but combined they lead into the trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:27 PM
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1 - agree completely. Asking 2 women effectively means asking all women, as you are assumed to trying with every girl. I.e. other circles are OK, but you have one attempt only
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:26 PM
8

Yes. But people that deny it come up with stupid solutions that lead to the trap described in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:20 PM
8

It would be fair to not pretend there is a solution if there is none
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:18 PM
5

So basically offline circles are not a solution for unsuccessful men. They are likely to not get reciprocal feelings from the first girl, then entire circle is poisoned for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:17 PM
4

It only works if you are successful from the very first attempt. Then you automatically fall into the category of "that man that hits on everyone"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:16 PM
5

For same reason men often are repulsed by women that had "hoe phase" and many men in the past. It is understandable. But it effectively ruins the dating in the offline circles and taking no lightly. Because once you are rejected it means you can't approach all these women in friends circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:14 PM
2

Yes, typical BP dating advice is stupid. Because they lead to this exact situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:08 PM
6

Everyone wants to be special, yes. It is clear why women don't want to be second girl he approached. But this makes typical blue pilled dating advices effectively trash
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:06 PM
5

Doesn't make any sense. Being attracted by multiple people is normal. On the opposite fixating on one person who is not in relationship with you and probably not likes you is a recipe for big troubles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:03 PM
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> Do you think all women are friends? If we are talking about random women this is of course no. If we are talking about women in same circle - they all typically know each other. > Nobody assumed that but you. you assumed it as man is supposed to be attracted to only one girl. > I implied no such thing and in fact called it deranged. This is just a ridiculous straw man to justify hitting on every woman you can reach. Not every. Just another woman in the same circle. Because, you know, typically…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:58 PM
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Usually, men like more than one woman. Until they are in monogamous relationships it is OK. This makes it possible to go on after taking no for an answer and try his luck with someone else. But there is a catch if someone else knows you already tried and have been rejected. You can't expect attachment to a single woman before official relationships and being officially exclusive. But you still expect that rejected man to stay in orbit of the woman that rejected him and not approach anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:52 PM
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> No it doesn't. It means if you ask a woman out and she says no, you don't go and hit on her friends. So if she said no, he can't approach any of her friends. He is stuck as a single. > This is just deranged. Assumption that he is so fixated on just one girl means he already has deep feelings to her and nobody else. > No, taking no for an answer is about consent. Both people must say yes and if one doesn't, tough luck bud. Of course. Consent is important. But to easily take no for an answer men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:47 PM
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1) work is bad because it is work. 2) other circles are bad because asking out and failing - closes the other opportunities. I.e. OLD and cold approaching are bad, but asking out in friends circle is probably worse because it creates reputation and you effectively have just one attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:42 PM
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Yes, but these stupid advises are always given to men who are unlucky in dating. Mostly by blue-pilled virtue signalling people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:40 PM
3

Flirting already means dropping plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:38 PM
4

Then if you assume man should like one and just one woman and never switch to other contradicts easily taking no for an answer. Because he invested too much and loves only her and nobody else. Will continue his advances hoping she gives him a chance. Ability to take no for an answer is absolutely about not fixating on one women, as there is more fish in the see. You can either: 1) expect men to be invested and love just one girl or 2) to take no easily and go on But you can't expect both.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:37 PM
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No guarantee she won't reject you after that long getting to know platonically phase . And there are other problems: If you linger around for too long, she considers you are friend. And then when you ask her out, she is offended because you are creep that used friendship to try get into her pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:33 PM
5

What a strawman! Where did you see spamming dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:30 PM
2

Healthy marriage is good, but quite rare. It is typical survivor bias.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 08:09 PM
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Men should do the same. Rent is bitch, when you pay solo. And loneliness can kill.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 08:06 PM
13

Women already decentered men. Most women. So when men are going away, most women don't care. However, there are still some women, that actually want men (usually attractive and status men, or at least someone to boost her ego by showing attention). This minority of women can post complaints about men being cold, low-T, ignoring women and not real men. Or proverbial "where have all the good men gone". Such complaints get immediately reposted by thousands of men glad to celebrate. It gives illusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:06 PM
1

Mens rights for body autonomy, equality in education, courts, laws in general. Against discrimination at workplace. Equality in case of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:19 PM
7

Cheating is not an excuse for violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:42 AM
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More reasons to quit dating and live happily single Man without a woman is like a bicycle without a fish
/r/EverydayMisandry17/04/26 08:44 PM
10

Just ignore women and build your happy single life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 12:28 PM
1

This is wrong. MRAs recognize misandry and gynocentrism of men in power, it is well known that no political power represents men as a group. Yes, conservatives are not friends of men. Men enable gynocentrism and dating dynamics: white knights, male feminist allies that support discrimination of men for "equality" and simps that are obsessed with finding a woman and getting sex - further tilting balance of value towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:16 AM
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So majority of women are misandrists. Minority of men are misogynist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 07:18 PM
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Attractive men don't have to leave. Scenario of OP is unrealistic. But. There is not enough of them. They are often promiscuous and they have little motivation to marry at all. However, average men who are on trajectory to become financially stable see the behavior of women and quit dating, become red or black pilled, or MGTOW. Women that still want stable monogamous relationships and marriage with "good guys" who are financially stable and can provide - may notice the shortage of marriageable m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:13 PM
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In this case it is not explained by fairness of the world, but by psychology. Men that want a woman are considered below her bar. She has choice and can aim for a better man. Man that is confident and not interested in her obviously has so much choice - thus he is good! Woman would rather chase a cold detached man than a simp throwing money and attention at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:43 PM
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Chose better is often said to women complaining about men in general being cheaters, abusive etc. It is a valid counterpoint that she is judging all men by a small group of men that were not a random sample, but chosen by her. It is a common talking point here that women are attracted to bad men (dark personality traits), often prefer taken men or men that are very popular among women (and then surpass she cheats on her too) It is rude and heartless to blame victim of abuse who now needs help no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:40 PM
0

Because somehow it is ok to use this argument against men, but not against women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:31 PM
0

No it is not just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:44 PM
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Conversely men are disproportionately affected by toxicity, abuse, false allegations, parasitism and entitlement of women. But when men complain, women deflect that women are not monolith. Which is of course true. Men should have filter and be more paranoid about women to be super sure this one won't leech or backstab. However, when women complain about her husband or boyfriend telling her to chose better is somehow wrong and victim blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:18 PM
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Practical solution is to decenter women and live your life. If woman is interested in you, she should communicate that. Otherwise - why bother. Single life can be better than average married life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:52 AM
10

Ministry of Equality sounds similar to Ministry of Truth and Ministry of Love
/r/MensRights09/04/26 07:28 PM
5

thats actually a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:23 PM
-8

I don't think it is so simple. After all it is your kid being raised without you and probably taught to hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:38 PM
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Some men are babytrapped and chose the lesser evil. There is no paper abortion, so this particular option is not gender mirrored. Also some men and women realize how bad marriage is only after marrying and having kids/mortgage, so too late
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:23 PM
2

because the status quo benefits them. Why would they willingly reject their privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:04 PM
5

I'm financially doing well, made quite a career and I don't need to be motivated by sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:17 PM
1

good
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:36 PM
4

No. It just tells about of her views. Coffee is just the beginning. If you tell in advance that bill will be split, it filters out entitled women, yet of course reduces dating pool. For a man that wants to pump and dump coffee is an acceptable investment, as he is not going to have relationships, her personality and view of gender roles doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:33 PM
4

Why be in relationships with a leech or parasite? It is better to be single then in relationships with woman, that uses you like an atm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:25 PM
3

Men complain about paying for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:15 AM
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It is hilarious that you consider libido and wanting to fuck as your advantage over AI
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:52 AM
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facepalm.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:10 AM
10

I think sex shouldn't be transactional. I.e it is either free - because both want each other, or it is prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:52 AM
26

Jerk off before making important decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:51 AM
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why is it question to blue pill? I personally don't care, we get replaced by AI much faster than gradual extinction from not reproducing enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:26 AM
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No. Feminists pretend to be "angels" in this case. I.e women who champion gender equality. In fact they are hypocrites and want onesided deal where women are released from gender roles, while men are not allowed to do same
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:21 AM
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Women have social power, while men are more physically strong, women are considered fair sex, they are protected, in case of conflict between man and woman people (regardless of sex) tend to side with woman. Woman hold a huge influence as majority of voters, buyers. Protecting women is considered virtuous. And of course women can use this for evil. Can doesn't mean will. Same as male strength is not always used for murder and rape. I.e women have a certain power that can be very destructive, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:58 PM
2

I don't say that your standards are bad, but likely you are filtering out all the potential men. It's your right. that's nothing wrong with it. Yet in the end it means you are not present for them as an option. So your "I'm not like other women, I don't expect man to be provider" effectively changes nothing, as you tend to filter all the men out and not really dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:34 AM
2

So while theoretically you are up to egalitarian relationships, you set up so many conditions and boundaries to drop out 99%. And other ordinary women just want cake and eat it too (patriarchal obligations for men, but not for women). Ergo men should prepare to be happily single as women are either leeches or unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:24 AM
5

Even if this is true for you, you are in minority
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:12 AM
3

Niceguyness is strong with this one. Especially in see women as people and not like other men. Maybe you are also feminist. Still virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:25 AM
5

To make it fair you should punish bad behavior and reward good behavior artificially tilting the benefits towards socially beneficial behavior. Because egoistic behavior is beneficial on its own. Machiavelism and sociopathy help making careers and sleeping with women. Yes, being AH is beneficial. And pretending otherwise is delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:28 PM
9

To create a healthy society is a good goal. But you can't start with a delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:12 PM
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Women of course can want to eat cake and have it. Because it benefits them. They don't need to change unless this stops working for them. And women don't need men (relationships with men) that much to adapt. If things don't work the way they want, they can be happily single. No amount of complaining will change behavior of women. You can stop playing their games. But you must be ready to stay single and happy single. If you are desperate for relationships and they are not - they will always have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:15 PM
22

Leftists sometimes mock and kinkshame men even if they are on the left too. No surprises.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 09:59 AM
12

Then you basically admit that claim in your post is false
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:29 AM
6

Once again this is part of good personality trait that helps maintain established relationships, not starting them. Men fail initial filters
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:27 AM
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Sad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:18 PM
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It's really hard to find a good woman that is into you. Good women exists, but they are taken or not interested. So it really doesn't matter how many women are good/evil in general, only among those who seek relationships and would consider him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:10 PM
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Some men indeed only care about looks. This is stupid, but some men are so. And fatties can be so soft and pleasant to cuddle. While entitled hags just drink your blood and destroy your mental. Personality matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:35 PM
7

This should be normalized. Better be single rather than with a parasite or crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:46 PM
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Yes, this is stupid, this should change, but right now sadly men are enabling this abuse. Men need to be confident about the quality of their lives as singles to not get stuck in toxic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:45 PM
2

I don't think AI is a key ingredient and it is not even necessary one. But indeed men adapt and find occupations that bring happiness/dopamine, circles of friends. So yes, men are reaching parity and man without a woman is like a bicycle without a fish. But it is not due to AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:16 AM
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that's the purpose of the first date, filtering out toxic or just incompatible people.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/03/26 02:48 AM
2

Yes. I'm a good parent. 90% of troubles in my married life were the mood swings of my wife and only the rest - kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:12 PM
2

It is originally in bad faith and designed to smear. Cherry picking people and opinions to make it look worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:39 PM
2

Just say in advance that you prefer to split the bill and let the trash take itself out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:04 AM
12

Domestic violence is at least 50% by women. Women beating their children not just their husbands
/r/EverydayMisandry29/03/26 04:41 AM
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I don't think so. Men are disappointed, but not just poor men and single mothers aren't the only matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:17 AM
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Your sister is a misandrist feminist, what else would you expect?
/r/MensRights23/03/26 06:02 AM
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Birthrates drop, but never to zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:48 AM
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Solution is to not spoil them during the beginning phase. Cut off early women that are mentally and financially draining, don't overinvest - it only leads to her entitlement, imbalanced situation "he needs me more, that I need him"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:48 AM
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Of course no. Women don't need men (or at least absolutely majority of women doesn't need absolute majority of men). This isn't going to change in foreseeable future. Men need to adapt and improve their single lives, decenter women just like women decentered men already. Next generation of men may do better without women, not with women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:02 AM
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We don't need to focus on making women's lives worse. Just ignore them and focus on our own benefit. Bitterness and vengeance are not constructive motivations. Yes, feminists lied about their agenda helping men too. Nevertheless we shouldn't make our agenda harmful for women. Last but not least - a lot of women actually support equality for men. There are Cassie Jaye, Christina Hoff Sommers, Honey Badger brigade.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:03 PM
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I personally know examples
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 09:13 AM
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Pushing for discrimination of men in employment and promotion. Special treatment for women in certain spheres of education. Creating hostile environment for boys in schools and education system in general. Treatment of DV, IPV - men are treated as perpetrators even if they were victims. See Duluth model, Spanish gender violence laws
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:24 AM
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First of all, it is not just rhetoric, it is policies. And feminists that have real influence are typically sexist against men. There are true egalitarian ones, but they are not decision makers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:39 AM
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Not comments. Policies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:42 PM
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feminism and gender equality are great things on paper. But practical implementation is far from beautiful ideals and full of sexism and misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:50 PM
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splitting the bill is important filter. You don't have to split it in order to set the rules. You say it in advance and let the parasitic ones drop out before wasting your money and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:33 PM
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We shouldn't be left or right wing, as both are not our allies, don't care about our cause. We are political minority. However a minority power can be a kingmaker. E.g if there are three parties, having 45%, 45% and 10% core support third has potentially very strong hand, as they can situationally join 1st or 2nd and dictate conditions
/r/MensRights15/03/26 02:09 PM
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conscription (see Russia and Ukraine) and limiting constitutional rights, men are not allowed to move out, while women can freely go. Some politicians shamelessly say that women are " most affected" though. different age of retirement. Men retire older despite living much less. Different criminal punishment. In some countries capital punishment and life term are exclusively for men. Western countries push for abolishing women prisons. Special sexist definition of gender violence (women by men, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:38 PM
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discrimination of men is just ignored because it is somehow not systemic and men's fault. Laws discriminating against men are somehow ok and not sexist. even saying that men are discriminated because of their gender is considered misogyny by feminists. So they claim that they are for equality and against sexism, but they defend discrimination of men and sexism against men, or deflect them as non issue, or victimblame men because somehow men invented patriarchy and thus discriminating themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:10 PM
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gender based conscription. different retirement age (men live less, yet retire older). so called gender violence laws. It is a special harsher crime when men beat women, not vice versa. E.g in Spain. This formalizes discrimination in handling IPV.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:18 PM
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Judging by disastrous results of current administration their chances of re election are slim
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:50 PM
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Or if you are a son of feminist parents and hate their hypocrisy so much you become MRA.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:08 PM
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Of course this happens. Also children of progressive parents can be conservatives or right wing. Last but not least, mens rights are in fact progressive, splintered from the 2nd wave feminism, but now mortal enemies. Which is sad, but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:52 PM
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Abolish practices like Duluth model, fight antimale bias in courts and education, workplace discrimination of men. Yeah conservatives are not friends of men, because draft. So called progressives drive antimale discrimination in workplace and education (special programs favoring women, no due process in case of allegations and universities kangaroo courts, stuff like Dear colleague letter etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:40 PM
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banning abortions is not boosting fertility. See Poland. Most prolife European country with one of the lowest birthrate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:34 PM
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Because there are no pro-male politicians. Nobody represents interests of men as a group. Conservatives vs progressives is Alien vs Predator situation for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:14 PM
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If you are speaking about abortions, I'm not with you. Children should be desired by parents. Banning abortions is not helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:13 PM
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And good riddance. Ideally such behavior and attitudes should be early filter. How would you detect sexist/lazy men before investing too much in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:32 PM
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I'll certainly made a post in my project based on the figures from the original research. Still the phrase of that aussie lady caught my eye, and it was from Guardian's article. I mean the attitude "ignore problem and continue doing same thing hoping for different result".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:57 PM
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I think history won't make exact loops. New economy basis, entirely new unforeseeable society model. AI is like a gamechanger
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:45 PM
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In the first world women can do it all for quite a long time, yet consider themselves oppressed. Men are legally discriminated in many first world countries and this somehow doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:37 PM
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I'm more interested in temporal derivative here. India is relatively conservative and backwards. But how different generations in US, Netherlands view this? My point was there is reversal in the trend of new generations being more progressive than their parents - this was true for 10 and 20 years ago, but stopped working in the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:10 PM
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Education and workplace discrimination, legal (many countries have laws discriminating men such as draft, conscription, retirement age), court bias (harsher punishment for same crimes), treatment in family courts, bias in intimate/domestic violence cases (things like Duluth model, spanish gender violence laws), ambient misandry that is ignored or even encouraged as punching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:05 PM
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It is quite ironic, when both sides claim that the other is oppressing them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:00 PM
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Than I don't understand your responses
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:56 PM
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You described abolishing gender roles. Gender is social, not biological thing. Ability to give birth is biological, not social. Being leaders, provides, nurturers et.c. are social roles. Decoupling them from gender (and effectively abolishing genders) allows men and women to chose what suits them, not what is prescribed by the shape of their genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:49 PM
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Ah, I was mostly focusing on the "equality as zero sum game" thing and how this message is rejected. Not because men are not getting laid, but because they see double standards. But indeed, some young traditionalists may be just primitive angry incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:35 PM
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I think this is very wrong to interpret discrimination of men as men not getting laid. Incelish morons are certainly giving bad name to the manosphere and they are very useful to strawman it all as a bunch of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:26 PM
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But people are not dogs. If they resist "training" and you continue to push it until they give up resistance it means you are breaking their will to resist,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:23 PM
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Gender equality is not about worth, but about abolishing gender roles. Tradition didn't imply that men worth more, but that there is a rigid distinction in roles and purposes for men and women. I say that promotion of feminism is not working as expected. For the decades younger generations were more progressive than their parents. Now this is reversed and I'm asking people if there was any mistake that led to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:21 PM
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Do you believe in traditional gender roles being good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:08 PM
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Actually it is not just men. Polls record that conservatism is growing among women (i.e. women who agree to obey to husband et.c.). So the outcome will be lots of single LGBTQ progressives and some traditional people still marrying and making children. Then the problem will indeed resolve itself, but in the opposite direction. Progressives die single and in the next generation traditionalists are majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:05 PM
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In the ideal world yes. A lot of people apparently are not buying the idea that gender equality is positive sum. Was something wrong in policies and delivery of the message? Or everything was right and should continue same thing and ignore the apparent negative reaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:01 PM
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Interesting. Do I understand it correctly as to continue the same efforts to break the will of the resistance?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:51 PM
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I.e. nothing was done wrong, this is just a phase and eventually somehow it fixes itself. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:47 PM
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This certainly happens and some men can be hypocrites wanting one-sided equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:46 PM
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Ah, yes of course, gender war eventually fizzles as men and women separate and stop engaging with each other completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:45 PM
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Can you explain how LGBTQ ratio is fixing the conservatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:38 PM
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Sorry, can you elaborate no? Equality is not positive sum? Or there is nothing to be changed in approach of promoting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:33 PM
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this is a good approach for a topic that is pure philosophy: explain your position and let them agree or disagree. However, when it is a basis of policies, laws, government programs and education curriculum it is not pure philosophical question, as it directly affects lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:30 PM
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In the polls conducted about attitude to gender equality there was a recurring question about "are men being discriminated because of their gender" and yes responses were classified as anti-feminism and borderline misogyny. Which kinda tells that all the positive-sum game is merely a facade for a very one sided game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:11 PM
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Those of us that survive will be driven to reservations by AI much faster than sharia happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:53 PM
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Some men want idealized imaginary past to return. Still I think it is not about how attractive and appealing is the imaginary past, but about how biassed, unfair and hypocritical is the present approach to gender equality. Besides attraction to idealized conservatism, there is repulsion from modernity. Modernity that is supposed to be a positive-sum game apparently is not perceived as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:51 PM
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complains are useless unless they cause consequences. Either legal or financial. No lawsuits, so she can ignore it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 05:33 PM
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I.e to eat cake and have it. Nothing new. Have all the benefits and no downsides of both "patriarchy" and "equality".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:44 PM
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Do you imply that man always wants to romance a woman? Probably he doesn't think he has chance anyway, so he negs out of spite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:58 PM
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Degrading porn is more popular among women than men. Not all women, but mostly women enjoy "dark romance"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:07 PM
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Men who advertise themselves as respectful, sharing household chores, altruistic in bedroom are usually classified as niceguys. These qualities may be good to maintain relationships, but they don't help getting in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:11 AM
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This is the same virtue signaling as women telling they value personality in men, not looks or income. People either lie to look virtuous, nor shallow. Or deceive themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:30 PM
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Oh no! Anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:02 PM
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And is there a problem at all? It is not problem of men's quality. It is not problem of women's standards. Everyone lives happily single ever after - no problem at all. Well, except for people who are obsessed with demography or finding relationships at all costs. They are going to be disappointed. For women it is a problem if she is not OK being single and aggressively entitled to finding a man that suits her high bar. There are such women, they are very loud and therefore visible. When they wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:12 PM
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Offline too, when supporting other women against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:19 AM
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again, can you provide number of people who justify sa by biology? people often justify stealing (shoplifting) here on reddit. Leftists are very often supporting it and downvote anyone who explains this is just killing businesses in poor areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:29 PM
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I need to see the design of research. Anyway, asking hypothetical situation. How many green people would steal and rob people if there were no consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:18 PM
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green criminals aren't small group either. If you insist, please provide numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:25 PM
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There is a small group of men that are bigots and use biology as an excuse for rape or infidelity. You use these people to justify misandry. This is same as justifying racism because there are green men who commit crimes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:22 PM
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When you improve your life you find something else that is important to you except chasing women. Less desperate and needy. And if they are not interested, you don't need to chase them, you always have other ways to spend your time. Thus self improvement is not just making you more attractive, most importantly it improves your single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:11 AM
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There are no promale politicians. There are conservatives. Conservatives are often pushing agenda that harms women's rights which is not helping men. Well, at least some right winger do cancel certain female privileges e.g canceling DEI like policies and sexist antimale legislation might help men indirectly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:12 AM
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It is just a good rule: say in advance that bill will be split. Not a guarantee, of course, but a good first filter. Still not enough men are using this strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:03 PM
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Yes. Not because resources are the bill on date. Bill in a restaurant is a tiny fraction of costs. But splitting the bill indeed acts like a filter and drops majority of such women early before you invested financially and more importantly mentally in relationships with a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:56 PM
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In this post men mostly agree this is the case and proceed to defending this bias
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:21 PM
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Yes, it exists. People are biassed by gender. It is important to understand why though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:09 PM
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Not possible indeed. It will get much worse before any constructive truce and peace talks would be possible. Emancipation of men just started and society is still in denial of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:51 AM
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So if women are gender biassed (have strong ingroup bias, this is proven by research) how do you expect men should react? Women are united and support other women against men. Why shouldn't men do the same? Should men continue being beaten individually?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:39 AM
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Basically - yes, men are biassed in men vs women situations, but it is a natural adaptation to war against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:21 AM
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I don't think it is men are wonderful. Men don't really think that men are always fair, good and well intended. There is no mirror of women are wonderful. But. There is an us against them mentality. In every situation support men vs women. It may be justified by "because women always support women". Or because false allegations stories and thinking that all women that claim to be victimized by men are liars. Men are not wonderful. Men are defensive, men see situation as a war against men as a gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:13 AM
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Men should cast wide, if they want relationships at all. That doesn't mean have no filters. Once you have a convo and planning to meat IRL - it is time to actually filter women. E.g. tell her you prefer to split bill. I.e. against gender norm. This will drop significant number of women, yet that's good if you don't want to date entitled princess and leeches. It doesn't contradict casting wide net initially, as only 1% would reply. You basically have to spam. Some would reply. Than you should do …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:56 PM
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I'm not a woman, yet I can confirm - women adapted to this long ago, they are less dependent on relationships and OK being single. Maybe not super happy, yet OK. This is a value of "zero option" everyone has. Not choice between partner A and partner B, but comparing all them vs not having a partner at all. Most men lose competition to women's zero option. They are not miserable being single to jump on a man they don't really like. And yes, this means he is attractive, rich, generous et.c. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:34 PM
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I think, we should start with something doable, that allows us to build powerbase, reputation and eventually political power. We need a significant problem that we can solve ourselves, not through politicians or "raising awareness". Mane loneliness is fixable by men, by ourselves. Organize offline groups - hangout together. Do sports, hiking, help each other with career - use these meetings for networking and finding jobs/recruit people. Loneliness is not about being single, it is about being lo…
/r/MensRights24/02/26 09:08 AM
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You said it above, assume women enjoy sex with 33% partners. Not everyone can satisfy you. Fine. Try and figure that out early, not after wasting months of time (both yours and his)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:05 PM
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I didn't said immediate sex btw, you said it. If she doesn't want anything physical , not attracted to him, but wants to date him, cuz he is financially stable - time to say goodbye. Sex can be bad, some people are incompatible. The only way to figure it out is to try. Investing lots of times and mental into long relationships and after months finding out sex is bad seems pretty stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:38 PM
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No, manipulative women are not ok, thus not playing her games - no immediate attraction say goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:27 PM
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She choses someone who has resources, not someone she is attracted to. She doesn't need sex from him, as she doesn't want him like her previous partners. This helps her using sex as a bargaining chip. Something she can trade in exchange for his resources, not mutual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 07:22 PM
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they are allowed of course
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 07:06 PM
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So you basically defend the position of gal that had her fun and now wants a provider, so she tries to use sex as a delayed reward and bargaining chip to tie that potential provider man. It is not "she now choses better" it is she is now choosing financially stable man, to whom she has no real attraction, but can trade access to sex in exchange to his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:12 PM
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can they all actually go away, just forget about men and stop whining about men? They are basically like performative MGTOWs that only declare themselves going away in hopes of other sex reaction... Like most of these single hetero women are entitled misandrists that can only make men's lives worse by entering it. If they actually leave the scene they'll do men a favor
/r/EverydayMisandry21/02/26 08:17 AM
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I've received random boobpics and cuntpics from women. This is awkward at best. Especially that they probably expect my reaction.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 12:13 PM
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If you are not in Northern Europe, but in US, there is feminist Duluth model which is still applied and defines domestic violence as men beating women. It is not some stupid women on the internet. It is a policy. Designed by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 10:27 AM
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Nordic model is championed by feminism, it is feminist policy - punishing men for purchasing sex work. Sex work is legal, purchasing it is a crime. Let me Google it for you: https://www.lse.ac.uk/research/research-for-the-world/politics/criminalising-the-sex-buyer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 09:13 AM
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That's true. Women are different, men are different. But feminists just want to punish men for the self objectification of women. Example - Swedish Nordic model now pushed men paying for lewd videos as a crime. It is not just random women in the internet. Its a policy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:04 AM
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They want high paying office jobs (now more automated). AI can replace middle management successfully generating reports a bullshitting upper managers just like human managers do.
/r/MensRights18/02/26 10:01 AM
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Your message is mostly correct, yet It is more complicated though : Sex is used as a bargain chip. To pretend that women bring this to the table, they pretend that they don't need it and do man a favor. Sex is not always enjoyable. Orgasm gap is probably real. Some people are indeed asexual. Too much promiscuity is often regarded as a sign of infidelity in monogamous marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:25 AM
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No need to play their game of biological reductionism. Men work and these parasitic women enjoy fruits of men's labor redistributed by government through taxes.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/02/26 04:05 PM
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They say they are women. That's enough. You believe there is a coordinated lie by thousands of people pretending to be women. It is a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:19 PM
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Do you have any proof that all the women writing online about men not approaching them are secretly men? Besides anonymous redditors there author blogs. You just want to believe and deny anything that doesn't fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:08 PM
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sounds like conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:00 PM
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From time to time there are threads that go along this line: girl complains that men don't approach men say it is too risky and not worth the risk/effort a paradrop of women and simps cry "manup, the worst she can say is no", which is of course bullshit. I don't know for sure which portion of women still like and want men. Probably negligible. Yet they exist and when men don't make any effort to approach and pursue women they are shamed by hordes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 07:17 AM
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They are allowed to, but it is risky and benefits are questionable. Same as people are allowed to gamble, smoke et.c.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:11 AM
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Men also avoid danger. The fact you stick to "women afraid he'll kill her, men are afraid she's fat" bs means you just ignore what men say and prefer your strawman explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:20 PM
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We agreed in other comments that men shouldn't approach at all, and I agree. Respectfully or not, risks are same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:18 AM
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They don't In the modern times singlehood is the new normal. There is nothing bad about being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:25 PM
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I don't know about you specifically. But in every thread of man confessing not approaching ever because of risks, there is a paradrop of women and simps that shame him and talk about insecurity, and stupid platitudes about reading the room, showers and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:24 PM
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Chose to be voluntary celibate. Focus on other things in life. Women are optional and often detrimental for man's happiness. If you don't hyperfocus on women, you might notice other things around you that make you happy. Chasing women is taxing financially and mentally (because of rejections and games they play). If you ever land in relationships, she'll use you like a wallet and nag you. Biggest mistake of incels is idealizing something they haven't and have no clue about.
/r/MensRights10/02/26 09:27 AM
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men often overlook risk of std, baby trap, false allegations, slander and blackmail, being drugged and their valuables stolen. Men should really be more cautious with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:19 AM
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So you basically agreed with all the points of OP -> men shouldn't approach at all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:04 AM
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Much risk with little benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:49 AM
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So men stop approach because many women are like you. If some minority of women still likes men - they should approach men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:38 AM
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And we are not mind readers. We don't know which group you are in, just as women don't know who is a threat and who isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:25 AM
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Similar
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:09 AM
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like drug dealers exploit junkies
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:51 AM
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Because it is a scam and exploitation of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:41 AM
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men in HR might discriminate against men, to show how much allied they are. A lot of men are misandrists, and misandrist men are worse than misandrist women
/r/EverydayMisandry07/02/26 12:50 PM
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If women want YOU to contribute your resources, take responsibility for them, make decisions and also the chores, they expect you to be parent while them taking child's role. There can't be two children in the couple, and they want this position for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:54 AM
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You posted a ragebait and do you now expect someone to take you seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:51 PM
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Great idea. Women deposit money and if man courts them, gets rejected, he received a refund to cover his costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:42 PM
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if extra libido is discharged through porn, masturbation, toys, sex workers it doesn't give any effect in relationships balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:09 PM
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Why? Masturbation allows to get satisfaction without partner. Thats exactly the point of the post. If men can get their satisfaction without entering relationship, sex is not a bargaining chip and can't justify imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:54 PM
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I replied to typical arguments of people that claim, that men want sex more. They cite testosterone as the reason. I know it is more complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:51 PM
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So women buy sextoys more, men go to prostitutes or watch porn more. And both satisfy their needs without a partner. So their sexual needs can't justify changes in relationship balance as long as needs are satisfied through surrogates
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:11 PM
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Did you read the post? I explicitly debunked the 1 and 2. I.e 1. is not contributing to more male need, as men have a workaround. is due to social reasons, also explained in the post. how cheating is related? Perceived "all men are cheaters" is another statistical paradox - selection bias. If 100 women pick 10 men out of 100 and of these men part are faithful, part are not - unfaithful will have tremendous sexual success. And women who sleep with them will have an impression that all men are che…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:43 PM
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You can't sell sex if you need it too. Certainly true for some women, but probably not all. I.e women that expect providers, princess treatment, courting - rely on sex as a bargaining chip. But this is just a subset of women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:32 PM
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Can agree, but do you know that women are also seeking violent nonconsensual content and probably much more than men. According to pornhub stats. Also typical so called dark romance literature for women is about some brutal dominant man forcing poor woman into sex and or relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:29 PM
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Still I do with what is observable. Any measurements can be faulty. Of course if I had research grant for that and team of dedicated sociologists, I'd present something more substantial
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:03 PM
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I'm a man and regularly get such interactions. From people not related to my wife. I know some men are very lonely, and it is also not related to need of sex or even relationships. Loneliness and singlehood are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:54 PM
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A lot of people here claim that men need sex and not just want it. Like it something essential.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:52 PM
8

I'm not a misandrist, I have male friends. Sounds familiar
/r/EverydayMisandry30/01/26 04:15 AM
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Sex is overrated. For companionship we have friends. Relationship are drain of money and mental. There is no support, but lots of expectations and drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:12 PM
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Yes, the top 20% men desired by majority of women can be very picky and only want hottest women. This fits your theory. However 80% men in the bottom are not picky, but you don't notice they exist and their low standards don't matter to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:10 PM
1

yes. But so far they are not directly sending conscripts to the slaughter
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/26 05:50 AM
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Sorry, I'm atheist.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 03:04 PM
11

I wonder do they count perpetrators? It will no doubt be twisted in "by the other men"
/r/MensRights28/01/26 08:34 AM
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Russia is absolutely a root cause of the problem in this case, but now they mostly rely on "voluntary" means. Poor men basically sell their lives in exchange for hefty money (which their family will receive, once he is dead). Forced mobilization met too much backlash. Ukraine don't bothers to even pretend that men have a choice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 06:18 AM
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Maybe it won't be as horrible. Mass murders on the same scale as casualties of war are unlikely But indeed, appeasing aggressor doesn't stop wars, it enables more wars. If Ukraine is partitioned, Putin theoretically can bolster his shaking reign with a "great victory". I don't think he can be defeated by continuing war. His army is ready for it. His economy is struggling though. And even capturing Eastern Ukraine won't help. Newly conquered ruins populated by jobless disloyal people would contri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 10:02 AM
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Although I support this, do you realize it means capitulation of Ukraine?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 08:50 AM
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Relationship are risky in general. Relationship at work are even more risky because in case of any problems you also lose a job and in this economy you can't afford it. In the very worst case of ex being vengeful and doing some public allegations, you might lose job and chances to find a new one. Young people are socializing less (at least offline). Dating apps are all scams without exceptions. They don't meet anyone except at work - so no relationships. Plus relationships are expensive, general…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:02 AM
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Sad story
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:46 PM
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Two kids. First kid was born without my consent. She lied about being on pills. But she said it was accidental. Anyway refused to abort. We married. For a period of time thinks seemed improving. She said, that she wants two kids quickly and then return to her job. I agreed. When she was pregnant with second, the hell started. I thought about suicide. Didn't. Eventually adapted. I was on AD 4 years ago. I just couldn't go away, despite often thinking. My first glimpse of freedom was when I reloca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:23 PM
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I'm suffering and can't completely leave for almost 16 years. So yes, looks like, you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:12 PM
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Possible. Then women divorcing men are not necessary because menbad. But because women are just not willing to stay in relationships with either women or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:04 PM
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Your helpless tantrums are entertaining
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:01 PM
1

Sounds plausible. Turns out marrying men is more financially responsible act than marrying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:06 PM
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Let the bears do it
/r/MensRights26/01/26 02:52 PM
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If all the divorces filed by women are mens fault, as you claim, why divorce rate is higher among lesbians than hetero, ans hetero rate is higher than gay divorce rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:02 AM
1

After so many internet arguments I figured out that "If you have to explain, don't explain" If people are blind and deaf to this issue, they are most likely voluntary blind and deaf.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:05 AM
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> Objectively, most women have less libido than most men. It varies individual to individual but that's a general tendency This is not objective. Even if there is such a natural difference, it doesn't matter much as there are replacements. Toys and porn. Man can have a high libido and fully satisfy it without involving women. Women can do same. > No, giving birth is a financial strain for the woman. Don't expect it if you can't show her you're not willing to reciprocate that financial strain. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:08 AM
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still advertising your overpriced reproduction services?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:04 AM
2

so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:03 AM
2

I guess some men have weird fetishes and kinks. There are men who are into being cucked, or into findom. Some might be into this princess thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:47 PM
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A man is man if born man. This is enough. Your entitled expectations are irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:44 PM
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These are not courting phase expectations, but I agree, these all are outdated and I don't expect it. I don't expect make up or high heels. Come dressed comfy. A look that you can maintain effortlessly through life, not an image you use once to impress man. Taking name is optional. If you want, you can, otherwise no problem. Differences in libido? This sounds like a sexist stereotype of men being horndogs. It is mostly maintained by ever thirsty forever single men. Men in relationships often nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:35 PM
5

Which rites, for example? I'm pretty sure I don't need them, but lets check
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:17 PM
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It doesn't fit the traditional image of masculinity being rugged and reserved emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:48 PM
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I would not jump through hoops regardless of. If she doesn't like me, I don't need to conquer her. I just pass. If a woman requires expensive courting rites, it is a red flag already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:44 PM
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traditional roles are anachronism and obsolete, but if people fancy the old deal, it is their choice. Trying to combine them with progressive expectations is worse - it is a hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:43 PM
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You want traditional gender role dynamics when it is about income. You also expect progressive man (when it suits you).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:40 PM
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Hell no. Cakism from the very beginning. You want all the perks of gender equality with all the perks of tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:36 PM
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You are again talking about things that may matter for the quality of LTR, but not enabler for the relationships. I.e. women are not picking men by these qualities. Easily proven by the amount of complains how immature are the men they are in LTR with. If women would indeed pick men by virtues such as emotional maturity there would be much less complaints, divorces and generally unhappy couples. Women are as irrational as men - pick by "chemistry", booty calls, looks and anything that triggers t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:34 PM
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I don't dismiss them. I just say that status of oppressed/protected minority started to give significant benefits in certain areas. People started to seek it. It doesn't mean that women/PoC etc have no problems. But in victimhood culture this turned into a useful badge and desired status, while being the only non-oppressed supposedly privileged group became stigma. Men (white men specifically) realize it and start to actively participate in the oppression olympics because they are late to the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:26 PM
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I don't use it and it should be abolished of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:44 PM
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A text version please
/r/MensRights25/01/26 07:17 PM
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Yes it exists of course. And it is politics against us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:10 PM
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I owe you nothing. Next time I'll see such examples, I'll copy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:09 PM
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I can easily quote a lot of stupid women claiming that men need to be nice and have a good personality to have relationships. I see it every day. However it is not just women that chose bad men. Men also pick bad women. Booty calls, chemistry disabling logic and common sense. Men are exactly as irrational as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:40 PM
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Men are not welcome in this intersectional crowd. Well except for confessing privileges and paying reparations. Thanks, but no thanks. We are the designated natural enemy of intersectionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:18 PM
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Few feminists call out misandry. Mostly they are huge hypocrites. Yet I know good examples, really wholesome feminists that are indeed egalitarian and pro equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:41 PM
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Once upon a time I made a post to find out how many people are following or at least know someone who does. Tate is a boogeyman. Very few men lile him. He is a useful idiot to demonize men as a group. Interesting that poll was downvoted severely. They couldn't openly say why they dislike it. Just downvoted. https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/TMGXAgPyja
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 04:57 PM
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Preach your identity politics elsewhere. You are exactly the problem that leads to people dismissing the problems of misogyny and minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:10 PM
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Your examples are not misogyny. Yet of course misogyny exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:42 PM
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We can agree here, but your question in the beginning of the thread had very different vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:45 PM
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No, I don't. I say, that some people exaggerate misogyny and use it as a playing card for oppression olympics, which leads to dismissive attitude towards the problem and even denial
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:09 PM
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well, yes, you are right. Exaggerating misogyny led to devaluation and in the end dismissive attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:08 PM
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Still it is wrong to dismiss it entirely just because some idiots exaggerate it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:07 PM
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I agree, that misandry is much more accepted and thus becomes invisible. People just think it is normal to hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:06 PM
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Abrahamic religions were also created by men. And they can be refuted, agnostics, atheists are majority, state is secular. And I agree that abrahamic religions are misogynist in both myth (Eve and the origin sin) and policies - restrictions against women in church
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:56 PM
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obviously it exists, is so widespread that is considered normal. People denying misandry are typically misandrists themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:09 PM
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wokeism is basically a religion and it is all about hating men, justifing discrimination of men in order to defeat patriarchy. It is not science based, it is a system of beliefs and its misandrist as much as abrahamic religions are misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:06 PM
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ironically you speak same as these stupid "academic" feminist bitches denying misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:47 PM
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Misogyny is contempt, hatred, sexist attitude towards women. And it exists everywhere especially in anonymous internet. It may not manifest directly in discrimination of women because the misogynist don't have power to do so. The fact that discrimination of women is outlawed doesn't fix misogyny because it is in people's minds. Same as misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:33 PM
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That's true. This is often used as a boogeyman like patriarchy myth. Women playing victimhood olympic often complain about misogyny even completely imaginary
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:25 PM
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Because misogyny also exists and existence of misandry doesn't cancel misogyny. Saying that misogyny is not real doesn't help improve men's lives
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:18 PM
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Misogyny exists of course. I'm MRA and I call out misogyny, even among the MRA. Misogyny is detrimental to our cause, at least because it help demonizing us, but also because it drives away some people that could be sympathetic to equality for men. Especially it drives away women, women are great advocates for mens rights... Some men dismiss misogyny because people say that misandry doesn't exist, is not significant or not systemic. While of course misandry is a huge problem, so wast that people…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:21 AM
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Also it's much more likely that men will be taxed, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:32 PM
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Not my problem for sure. Let it burn
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:12 PM
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This doesn't really matter as women are less interested in relationships now, women don't need to settle to average not sexist guy, as they can be single and OK. Unless he is also attractive and or wealthy just not being sexist is not enough. Men who expect relationships just because they are not sexist are typically called niceguys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:23 AM
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Decenter women. Focus on your life, career, health, friends, hobbies. Women are optional in man's life. If there is a decent woman that is interested in you - let her in. Otherwise lower priority of dating
/r/MensRights19/01/26 05:46 PM
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It depends. Of course dating is filtering incompatible people. Some tests can be stupid and insulting, though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:25 PM
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There is no systemic discrimination of women anymore, women are promoted and men are squeezed out. Men are in power as they started in earlier times when situation was different. To keep their positions they play along helping discriminate other men... Of course resurgence of paleo conservatives in US breaks this script a bit. They aren't helping men, and are causing lots of problems. Yet at least DEI, institutional misandry got some hit. But in the long run it won't lead to equality for men, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:32 PM
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Patriarchy is a myth. Men in the top of society are sacrificing men at the bottom (mostly young men) to prolong their own power. I.e. there might be more men in the corporate board, they don't want to be "bad guys" so they support feminism by instituting quotas and targets for hiring and promotion - effectively discriminating against men entering profession. Women benefit from this but to continue to reap benefits play victims and cry about patriarchy. Ironically prevalence of men in the 0.1% to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:15 PM
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Misandry leads to legal discrimination of men worldwide. Male lives are really expendable, laws discriminate men. And nobody cares. Not because misandry is harmless, but because it is accepted as a norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:54 PM
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Misogynist men want to subjugate women. Misandrist women want to kill men (or sometimes subjugate). Another thing is how hard misogyny and misandry are policed. Misogynist men can't hate women as openly as women hate men. Not because these men love women, but because of consequences. Misogyny is punished. Misandry is accepted and sometimes encouraged as female empowerment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:55 AM
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why ridiculous?
/r/MensRights13/01/26 05:42 PM
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same with exception of giving birth. This part can't be split.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:08 PM
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So life is expensive for everyone. Women are earning more than men. Still women expect money from men, not vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:39 PM
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do you think life is not expensive for a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:34 PM
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Young women already earn more than young men. Why do they still expect money from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:44 AM
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It is not bad to have female friends. Friendzone is bad when it is about mixed signals to keep man hooked, hoping there is a chance, and thus useful - as many men still believe in courtship. Man in a friendzone desperately tries to earn her love but he is just useful. She keeps distance. Long enough to be just friends. Short enough to not let him off the hook. Not every friendship with woman is a friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:29 AM
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Economy changed, so called patriarchy was a feasible adaptation to economy post Neolithic revolution, when agriculture could feed large families, a lot of workforce was needed (and kids were workforce, but most importantly able bodied men), land became the biggest asset and had to be passed to single heir. Determining heir as the son of the father - patrilinear replaced matrilinear societies that existed before. Last but not least land had to be defended, again - by men. In XX century industrial…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:35 AM
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TRP is not answer. We need gender equality indeed, but not one sided deal promoted by feminists. Thus both TRP and feminists are bad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:46 AM
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They are parasites and openly say it. At least they don't hide their motives Swipe left. Being single is much better than living with a parasite
/r/MensRights07/01/26 08:43 AM
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Feminists use their gender and women in general as a meatshield to protect their bigotry. When someone calls out their double standards, they pretend it is an attack on women rather than ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:57 AM
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A man who dares not to proclaim himself a feminist is likely certain about his value, therefore doesn't need to improve them with pretending to be feminist ally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:06 AM
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Don't mix your sexual fantasies with what is better for society and leadership
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:01 AM
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In fact there is no difference between male and female politicians. So we should just ignore gender when voting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:09 PM
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Vote for female politicians if they are better. Otherwise setting up quotas is discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:03 AM
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It is true, because every child has exactly one parent of each sex. Provision and protection is irrelevant. Only genetics It remains true even if one man makes babies with thousands of women. Total reproductive success of men and women is equal. Just men's stake is riskier, but more rewarding. This may stop working if women start to reproduce without men from same generation. For example, if most women use donor sperm that was frozen centuries ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:21 PM
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Words are useless. You can't shame them into changing their attitude. You can quit market or be picky and selective with women. Better be single rather than with a parasitic princess
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:30 PM
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For people that want privilege equality isn't enough
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:23 PM
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Yes. They are sometimes hypocrites. Nevertheless they have right to opt out of relationships if they don't like the deal. Situation is - lots of women don't want equal deal. And men increasingly opt out of simping for princesses. So singlehood
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:21 PM
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Whatever she said is irrelevant, donor is not protected, she can demand child support, courts will side with her. Anonymity is the only defense for donor against this scam. Even if he donated throuh clinic and mother somehow finds out who was the donor - she can go to court
/r/MensRights05/01/26 04:57 PM
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As for the design of research, I'd rather not define strict criteria of where is 2 and 3. Instead poll 1000 people, do dimensionality reduction and k means. If my idea is correct, there will be visible clusters
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:08 PM
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Pure 2 is not about sex and relationships. More about education, employment, promotions, taxes. Also if 3 is desperately wanting sex (but failing) 2 is more likely to abstain and avoid (seeing relationships culture as unfair)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:15 PM
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so you keep hanging on the mirage and useless desire of something you can't get.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:44 AM
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share rent with a friend. It is much cheaper than gf, there are many extra costs in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:24 AM
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wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:15 AM
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If we all accept singlehood as the new normal, stop pestering each other with marriage, relationships, gender norms we probably might coexist peacefully, gender wars would stop once fishes and bicycles learn to live happily on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:55 AM
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I know examples of seemingly happy couples (but I don't know for 100% whats going on behind the closed doors). But I know even more toxic and problematic couples, divorced couples. Also I see growing heteropessimist trend among young adults, simultaneous growth of misandry and misogyny. Singlehood is the new normal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:52 AM
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Can relate. I like talking to women, I like how they look, I certainly don't hate them. But living together brings too many downsides and sex is overrated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:29 AM
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not sure such a radical solution is necessary, but that's up to you. I gradually shifted towards kinky fantasies and fiction to dampen libido towards real women. No chemicals involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:07 AM
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I plan to run a real study measuring misogyny and correlates. I think there are at least three types of misogyny: men that think that women are inferior, men are more intelligent and must lead, while women's place is in the kitchen. Old style misogyny. men that believe that women have it better, we live in matriarchy, society exploits men and gives women all the privileges, these men hate women as slaves hate masters. men that are hyperfocused on lack of sex and relationships, the more they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:37 AM
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Decenter women is the way. Just forget about them and live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:25 AM
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Focusing on catering to whims of one person doesn't make you more valuable to that person. Counterintuitively it tanks your value and hypes value of that person. She or he believes you are below her/his league and there are better options. So improve your health, looks, career, build connections, have an interesting life and that will attract people that want to be part of your life. Chasing someone at the cost of your own priorities is always a bad option, as even if you get into relationships,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:24 AM
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That's difficult for men who are spending much time online and whose few offline friends are all single, while their parents are divorced and jaded
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:16 AM
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Much more heteropessimist women. They are technically attracted to men, but hate majority of men, or at least hate relationships with men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:14 AM
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If women have problems society must be fixed. If men have problems - men must be fixed. This post is not exception
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:58 PM
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I agree. Fat women have their share. Yet a lot of men indeed would never agree to date a fatty and are very loud about it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:22 AM
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I mean that supply of eligible men is shrunk the same way as fat women are out of the game according to the post. I
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:10 AM
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Or you can ignore women and concentrate on improving yourself and your life. Because so many men are overweight, broke, incarcerated, homeless, drunk, substance abusers. Instead of wooing specific woman, raising her value, raise your own value so women (at least women still interested in men) will compete for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:22 PM
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They love to portray men as lustful horndogs thinking with their dicks. When reality doesn't fit, they hate men with double passion for breaking this comfortable misandrist wordview.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/01/26 09:09 PM
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Yet TRP is also online discourse. Going offline is good for ones mental, but it will shield you from all the opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:14 PM
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But that wasn't the topic of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:12 AM
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Of course single moms can still date and remarry. But their pool of options is smaller than of women without kids (with similar looks and other conditions) Besides that single moms have to dedicate a lot of time to children and have less time for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:56 AM
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Maybe they are blowing their own money but in their delusional view they expect return on investments as men will surely throw money at them after training by a "therapist" guru
/r/MensRights30/12/25 07:04 AM
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I switched to BIC razors after that ad and never regretted
/r/MensRights29/12/25 08:34 PM
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But I'm in this business, talking to lots of people who are more experienced. Zero time mentioning any quotas. It is market, competition and turns out that demand is mostly created by female customers that often want very specific genre (smut with maledom barely disguised as romantic). It's porn for women and they pay for it. Don't need to invent conspiracy when everything is explained by market. What you are doing here is akin to feminists blaming patriarchy for gamr genres catering to men. The…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 05:34 PM
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Fun thing. She is scamming women, not men. This advertisement is targeted on psychotic parasitic women that seek men to be their wallet. Their greed is their vulnerability to scammers: gurus and therapists that sell them validation of their existing views. Yas, go queen, you are so right. Now pay me 2500 for the session.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 04:25 PM
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Top level executives and politicians that occupy boards of directors and elected posts worry about their positions. Because they are actually men that are overrepresented in the top of society. To channel feminist rage safely away, they become feminist allies, they drive DEI and hiring/promotion quotas promising more equality and equity. Young men who just start their career suffee from these policies as they are discriminated. While top level men can maintain their positions by being "allies". …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:54 AM
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I talked with publisher representative and with other male authors, some of which already published many books. Never heard anything confirming this
/r/MensRights28/12/25 12:29 AM
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Sadly, many mras caught this victimhood culture from the feminists and sjws. Prioritizing feelings of victims over analyzing root causes and seeking actionable solutions.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 05:31 PM
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Publishers want money. They see that women buy more books and cater to women. To change that we need to vote with our wallets.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 05:13 PM
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We should be tough and proactive not because "real men are tough" but because we have no other choice. Nobody else cares about our cause. Society, government, media don't care. So we should. If we are fragile and passive, they just sweep us under the rug and forget we exist.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 12:26 PM
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How do you expect things to improve if we don't do anything?
/r/MensRights27/12/25 10:51 AM
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So this retains all the male liabilities from patriarchal model, yet none of perks. Are you trying to gotcha women this way? Because it is extremely unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:50 AM
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So talented men should write more and we should support men who write, by buying their books. What is the last book you guys read? I'm reading Thief of time by Pratchett now. And I'm writing my novel. Hope to publish it on Amazon eventually. We need to drive the changes, not just complain.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 10:45 AM
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Consider them an ugly friend. If society keeps ignoring us, they receive more far right resurgence. Although I dislike far right, they often have valid points.
/r/MensRights26/12/25 02:24 PM
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I don't for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:30 AM
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Simply because you are not man, you opinion is null and void. If a man would speculate about what is the "real woman" his opinion would be equally worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:08 AM
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You have zero authority to decide it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:01 AM
3

"Real men" is a stupid misandrist manipulation trying to extract something from men by stroking their ego. Any man is real man, regardless of you liking his behavior or not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:44 AM
2

Chivalry is dead for good. In post-feminism, post-meetoo it is just a stupid double bind to expect chivalry from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:42 AM
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When men complain, they are often told they need to respect women, not be misogynist and that problem is in their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:51 AM
2

Yes. I still lead a community around 5k size, part of the content of which was masculism and mens issues and a lot of women were receptive.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 10:47 PM
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I'd say they can be situational allies as we have common foes. But we should never identify with them. Tradcons resurgence is the price society pays for ignoring men. They won't accept true equality for men, unless the alternative causes them much pain. MAGAs and tradcons can deliver that pain.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 01:22 PM
1

I can agree mostly, although romantic relationships still exist, just slowly going extinct. Besides feminist lobby the biggest pushback against male space are men themselves that are lazy, inert, cling to the illusions and are aggressively resistant to the idea of giving up illusions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:26 PM
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I tried to help guys organize in that direction. I'm a masculist (like MRA yet closer to the more gender egalitarian roots) and set up a community for men to hang out together and do various sports, fitness oriented activities et.c. specifically offline. Almost no one tried to go out and meet offline. I met some people, but this remained mostly online club. We discuss training and supplements there. Failure of this attempt really hit my faith in organizing male spaces. It is not english speaking…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:09 PM
2

women are attracted to men, yet they somehow manage to control their impulses. A lot of men can control their impulses as well. It is possible/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:31 PM
6

Dating advises to men by women are just gaslighting or based in Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:30 PM
0

for a man seeking just sex it is indeed the best solution. Not all men want just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:21 PM
11

If you aren't interested in men, why go on dates at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:55 PM
1

Why would man want to be with a transactional parasite, who is selling opportunity to spend and evening with him, instead of wanting to be with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:53 PM
0

Prostitute will be cheaper
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:51 PM
1

UBI will be necessary at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:51 PM
1

I don't say we can cure aging completely. I assume that aging is a sequence of failing systems. Every little victory expands productive life span a bit. But there will be more issues ahead. We wont live 500 years, but 100 is realistic goal for our generation. And maintaining healthy brain as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:19 PM
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Decentering means indifference. In particular not pursuing or harassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:04 PM
0

Aren't your links proving my point. Dynamic is negative
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:03 PM
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Number of single and not searching are double digits > Bruh the “beta uprising” is 15 year old meme. If losers could do anything they would have by now. The only stupid thing about "beta uprising" is the expectation of women suddenly changing their ways to make men stop going away. In fact women went away even earlier. Nobody cares if men go away, as women don't need men that much. Some MGTOWs linger wet dream of women crying "where all the good men have gone". Which won't happen as women DGAF s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:54 PM
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A lot of people are in anger and bargain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:48 PM
0

You are free to call them names for not wanting to play the rigged game. It will only speed up things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:39 PM
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I think this shift started in late XX century, when women changed their priorities in life. You can call it whatever term, yet this happened. Men are just starting the similar shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:38 PM
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> The odds of getting a relationship is higher than the lottery lmao. It is not about odds, but about amount of win/lose multiplied by probability. Relationships can make you happy if you are exceptionally lucky, but on average you lose. Just like with lottery. > Its common for men to lose hope, feel dejected and as a result give up and stop trying which just leads to them never actually finding someone. Not stop there. Improve your single life, to be happy single. It is not bad end. > Because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:36 PM
0

Vote for the baddest baddy available. It can't improve things of course, but shatters complacency. Mainstream politicians should pay the price for ignoring you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:33 PM
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Economy is a factor, but not because people are poor. When people are REALLY poor family is for survival and not romance. Not the poorest, but richest countries, where people can afford to be individuals are experiencing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:31 PM
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> Trying has better odds than giving up. Then go try win lottery. The more you attempt, the higher chances you win a Jackpot. > My boyfriend thought he would be alone for years and I thought I'd be alone for years as well but we found eachother. The issue is feeling dejected and having no hope. Single outlier and anecdotal example doesn't change the big picture. > 30-40 year olds arent gen z. Thats millenials. Why should it be just Z?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:28 PM
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I realize that Blue pill is usually a Just word fallacy, common virtues are gaslighting and family is in crisis for a reason. Nevertheless I'm usually skeptical towards views of the red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:26 PM
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Much more people are doing it silently. https://nypost.com/2025/07/12/lifestyle/poll-finds-gen-z-singles-are-giving-up-on-dating/ That trend shifts by age and gender: among singles under 40, men were more likely than women to say they’re not interested in dating, at 39% compared to 30% — a reversal of older age groups, where women were more likely to opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:21 PM
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Silent majority can and should speak with ballots.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:20 PM
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> Well they can reduce the chances of rejection by not cold approaching and reduce chances of a bad relationship by screening for common interests and compatibility. Cold approaching is a game of numbers. People who only meet through friends are seeking in a smaller pool with much bigger impact of failure. If you have common friends - chances are she'll tell them. And dating apps are horrible. There are no good alternatives. > Listen they don't HAVE to be with someone to be happy but it can make…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:19 PM
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> They can make dedicated efforts to be happy, while still trying to get a partner. Apparently stopping trying to get a partner is the very first step to happiness. Rejections and shitty relationships make people unhappy. > Men are happier in relationships or married statistically. This is flawed. Single but still trying are counted as single, yet they are unhappy because they pursue a mirage. Single after divorce are shattered because the had relations, yet they are counted as single. Last but …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:11 PM
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Point is they will be happier if they dedicated efforts to be happy, rather than stopping being single with lots of efforts and no guaranteed result. First of all they can still be single despite trying. Second they can get into relationships with a bad partner. Situation, when woman needs man less than he needs her creates bad relationships. For ages there was a belief that woman's purpose in life is to get married. Feminists of 2nd wave challenged and shattered it. Women decentered men success…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:05 PM
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It is not about aggressively going monk. It is about changing the attitude to "I don't care", redirecting energy elsewhere. Indicators like "X% of young men never asked woman out" or "X% of young men said they prefer AI gf" align with that. When X% is 0.1% it is irrelevant. When X% is at least 30% it is game changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:53 PM
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Ironically you are as defeatist as blackpiller men. Treatment won't be cheap. but unlikely cost millions, you can dedicate some time to making money, investing. In the same time optimize your health with good food and physical activity to have more time. Rather than giving up in advance, consider what you can do to increase your chances
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:48 PM
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this is a political question, here we are speaking about gender relations. If a larger group of men decenters women in romantic sense, they will be more inclined to protect their rights as a group and lobby their interests. what you are doing here is setting an impossible bar - portraying enemy as so powerful and invincible it gives you excuse to not do anything or to self destruct but if you set realistic goals you can achieve them step by step. Make your single life better and promote this lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:45 PM
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Then it is valid answer. I thought about people like proverbial proselytizing vegans that come up with veganism when no one asked. This is disgusting. But if they asked first this is a valid answer. If you are fit, intelligent high earner telling that you decenter women might hurt some butts. They somehow assume only unattractive losers do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:36 PM
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I don't think we should go monk and never talk to women. Just treat them as genderless beings. Don't pursue them et.c. We have female relatives, coworkers, friends - they are just people and we shouldn't give em any special treatment because of gender, nor positive special neither negative. Men who are bitter and hate women didn't decenter women. Hate is also a strong emotion, just like love and lust. Truely decentering means you DGAF about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:32 PM
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I'm married for 15+ years and had enough experience. Still I see some objective measurable trends (statistics, polls) and anecdotal experiences can beat statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:28 PM
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Actually agree. My experience matches. I was concerned that I'm ugly loser nerd in my teen years, and this led to bitterness and then into behavior which was much later called "sigma". I had no trouble with female attention, some people would call me a lucky Chad... What caused my current worldview wasn't celibacy but terrible experience in marriage. I started to heal, moved away and live in other country, while still married. I came to "it's better to be single" not through involuntary singleho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:26 PM
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You shouldn't rely consistently on support net for that. Work to pay your bills. In dire times friends can help you temporary, assuming you do same for them. Having connections is good for finding jobs or just maintaining your mental from crumbling. Loneliness kills (don't confuse it with singlehood)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:15 PM
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The biggest support net for single men would be other men - friends. It doesn't require any government funding
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:09 PM
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I think we are quite close to prolonging life / slowing aging by decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:07 PM
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In which context do you say it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:06 PM
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women are much less interested in dating, almost no initiative from them. women are now less interested in marriage than they used to be. Less then men, according to polls. A lot of women now avoid mentioning they have a bf, as it is suddenly cringe. Women file majority of divorce. I'm not saying they are bad. But it aligns with the assumption that wives need husbands less than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:59 PM
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Would be nice to see up/down vote distribution by flairs. I.e if some post is downvoted by men and upvoted by women, or vice versa. But that would be reddit feature, not specific sub
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:37 PM
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I don't say it is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:29 PM
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Although you are right, there will be further decrease in relationships if no one is prioritizing them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:08 PM
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Indeed. Male friendship is the very first step. Single != lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:06 PM
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Women's emancipation was when Gloria Steinem declared that a woman without a man is like fish without bicycle. For Men's emancipation we need to realize that a man without a woman is like a bicycle without a fish. // yeah, she wasn't the original inventor of this slogan, yet she made it popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:25 AM
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I really don't believe in biological hardwiring. We are to sophisticated and social. Our complex social behaviors are programmed by social upbringing not written down in genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:22 AM
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If we can solve the problem of aging - at least significantly prolong our lives, while simultaneously automating 99% of jobs, decline of birthrate is not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:19 AM
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They are minority of course. At worst they can be a loud minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:18 AM
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While I agree to some point (especially men who win from accepting reality and focusing on improving their lives), there is still a large group of women that benefits from men wanting them. If someone needs you more than you need them - you have a powerful leverage. These women will be affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:06 AM
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Both options are valid. It is strange for local crowd to situationally support both depending on which is in opposition to mens take in given post. I.e individually women can have different views. Collectively they team up with women against men and support woman's take against man's take. Not their specific views but what tribalism dictates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:43 PM
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not necessary women. Men also upvote. But the crowd clearly upvotes contradictive claims. You can't say it is different people because they are statistically same (average dwellers of this sub)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:31 PM
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what do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:58 PM
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no one said you must have same preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:57 PM
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PPD people who vote for comments
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:56 PM
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Nope. He speaks about SAME group of people upvoting different comments depending on context.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:30 PM
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You don't get it. It is statistically same crowd of people up/downvoting comments in same sub. Commenters may be different but the people evaluating the comments are from same set.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:17 PM
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Unless there is some algorithm that shows different people different posts based on their views, big numbers would work towards uniformity of views of people who vote. One caveat I see here - it is not necessarily women voting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:44 AM
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It can be said about individual commenters - different people say different things. Sometimes diametrically opposite. However it is not applicable to upvotes. Upvotes are about what majority think. OP says that most upvoted comments message changes depending on what is the question. If men ask about how to approach - the most upvoted comment will be "don't approach strangers" If men are complaining that it is impossible to approach women, the most upvoted comments will dismiss that sentiment and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:51 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:28 AM
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In general, you get things you once craved when you don't need them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:28 AM
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I think it helps men finally quit dating and thus decenter women the same way women already decentered men. It will certainly level the field. Not that women will be more interested in dating men, but men will equally not interested in dating women. This will destroy dating apps business and that's good
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:39 AM
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It is called strawman. When they can't argue with your argument, they pretend you said something different that is easy to counter or be righteously offended. Not really gendered thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:32 AM
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Surgical solution is also a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:17 AM
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it happens, yet too slow. Younger generations of men are reluctant to approach women and less active in dating app, there is raising number of men who prefer AI to real gf account to polls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:16 AM
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implied /s?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:12 AM
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Or fewer and less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:54 PM
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15
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:36 PM
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Not in the west. And I still support them financially, we spend holidays together
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:06 PM
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hookers or postnut clarity after porn. There is nothing really exciting about sex. Men are taught that it is super great and the best thing man can experience. That's the biggest lie that keeps men on the plantation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:06 PM
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Women need it from men much less than men need it from women. Women have female friends (and the very first thing men need is to build male friendships) Women clearly are more picky in dating, less motivated to initiate it. Women are more likely to initiate divorce. It doesn't mean they are bad, just that they need their husband much less than he needs her. Women started decentering men decades ago and went more than half of this road, while men barely started decentering women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:50 PM
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She wrote me on dating site
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:37 PM
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Yes, less women are interested in men and procreation too. Those who still want kids have a temporary surge of wanting to marry in their fertile years (as mentioned above by RagingZebra) But overall it fits in the general dynamics of women don't need men anymore. Men need to finally realize that and do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:31 PM
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No evidence, I don't say it is women who are the cause. Yet they chose to divorce and eventually decide they don't need that particular man they married before. Maybe he was a bad husband. This still fits - she realized she doesn't need him. If it was husband who realized he doesn't need her - he would file the divorce. I'm not saying mengood womenbad. I just say that women don't need men. They need to procreate and need resources for that. Not the men, but what women can get from them. There ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:29 PM
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Just because bio clock awareness, they know their time to give birth is short and suddenly they need to hurry seeking a good father / provider. Later they divorce him and take his stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:19 PM
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Apparently less and less women need men. And those who still need - need a function: provider, protector, father for kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:17 PM
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I have two kids and married. I moved away and this helped me a lot! I lived as a single for a few years, went to gym, improved my mental, started snowboarding and hiking, improved my skills, won a hackathon et.c. I didn't cheat, maybe I could try and find a girl, but why bother? Thus I realized that men underestimate how good single life can be, and how miserable can be married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:07 PM
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Let's set realistic goals. Requiring impossible is an excuse to not do whats possible
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:56 PM
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So looks is not a solution. The only solution is to decenter women and seek happiness and fulfillment in single life (hobbies, career, sports/fitness, friends). Women already decentered men decades ago and don't really need men. Men have to catch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:40 PM
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Ever heard of white pill? Black is pessimistic and full of despair. While white is accepting reality and seeking what one can do to optimize happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:26 AM
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Men can't make women more attracted to men. It is out of zone of control. But they can change their own priorities and stop craving women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:01 PM
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What a shitty legal discrimination
/r/MensRights16/12/25 05:06 PM
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If he is worthless he may be willing to compensate women who agree to sleep with him. That's called prostitution though. If he is valuable, he has some choice. Why would he chose a parasite if he can choose another woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:50 PM
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He seems to have found a way to sell misandry to his subscribers. He caters to views of women who follow him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 03:46 PM
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Not sure if that will be easy, but I wish success anyone who sues them
/r/MensRights16/12/25 03:00 PM
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Can they be sued?
/r/MensRights16/12/25 01:24 PM
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You should be confident translates as you should be handsome, successful and confident. Otherwise it is perceived as shooting above your league. It is unfair, but no amount of complaining will make women change their behavior. They want rich tall guys and won't settle for less. You can't change it. The only thing you actually control is your goals and priorities. Once you remove women from your priorities and concentrate on improving your single life, women's standards become irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:45 AM
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why date you if there is no desire from you besides pure materialistic interests? If you think, he must pay, you seek wallet, not a person. Why would he want to be your wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:41 AM
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Just say this in advance before date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:50 AM
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Interesting, can you post some links?
/r/MensRights14/12/25 10:14 PM
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Does forcing to penetrate now constitute a rape?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/25 01:18 PM
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Some girls have conscience and are for gender equality, not feminism
/r/MensRights13/12/25 08:11 PM
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Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake
/r/MensRights13/12/25 06:53 PM
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boys will see hypocrisy and band together against system (and women)
/r/MensRights13/12/25 01:42 PM
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It will spectacularly backfire
/r/MensRights13/12/25 01:32 PM
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I don't know. Not sure if he has shown his true colors before. Before relocating he had a job and money. I think he was sort of "breadwinner" or at least not a parasite. And they had overlapping interests in sports. That's what I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:11 PM
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Or warn newlyweds, that everything you say in marriage will be used against you during divorce. People should understand all the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:38 AM
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I'm a man, I see families of my friends and the imbalance is real, it is not invented by feminists. I know very few examples of single breadwinner families. Most infuriating example I know is a woman, young mother who is a single breadwinner, while her husband is doing nothing. Including not caring about their son, so she often had to take her toddler to office. He is not cooking, not cleaning. They moved together to Germany (she's SQA and colleague of mine, he couldn't find a job). Problem is v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:19 AM
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This group consists of people with diametrically opposite views. They are banded together by the fact feminists dislike em, no other common things. And it is main purpose is to denigrate. Anyone associated with incels looks bad, despite not claiming women owe sex to men, not hating women, demanding equality in society in relationship etc but still you are in the manosphere and thus incel! Manosphere is feminists' scam and intellectual dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:41 AM
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First of all Manosphere does not exist. This is an artificial construct invented by feminists to bundle together all the male resources online. These men (and women!) have nothing in common and would disagree about everything. Nevertheless it is much easier to cry misogyny and discredit when someone is associated with incels and Andrew Tate. Gender equality that's not feminism or male emancipation from the gender roles poses a threat to ideological monopoly of feminism, so they thought to discre…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:36 AM
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I agree to some extent, but divorce shouldn't be restricted. Forcing people to live together despite hate is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:44 PM
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You still can do this individually. To change things we need to improve the image of male singlehood and this can't be done without leading by example. Thousands of examples of happy single men. Trust me, this phenomenon will be noted. Some people would follow us. Others would cry and call us toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:55 PM
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Key reason of imbalance is different acceptance of singlehood. Women's singlehood is not a stigma. They are strong, independent, know what they want, value themselves. Too many men still associate happiness and success in life with having a GF. Singlehood is a stigma for men, loserdoom et.c. Men are more desperate and sell themselves short, while women have more bargaining power. To fix this men should improve their single life and realize that they don't need a woman to be happy. As many people…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:23 PM
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What platform would you recommend? I hate video content and prefer text
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:15 PM
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This can be very annoying. I had DMs from radfems hoping I'd die and throwing homophobic slurs. Yet I believe you get such DMs orders of magnitude more often. My concern here wasn't DMs, but people actively seeking opportunity to ban me and other men with uncomfortable truth that can't be easily dismissed as misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:18 PM
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If you are interested, I can give you a link
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 09:25 AM
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I got my purple letter a week ago. Secretly I hoped that this would never happen. Two years have passed since approval of the bill #327 (which is the end of abuse and sexual violence against women). I got used to the thought that it was always some other guy going down. At first there were many men who volunteered. Leftists, politicians, “feminist allies” were all too eager to declare themselves as potential rapists no more. Frankly speaking, these new bodies they got have benefits - no flu, no …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 09:20 AM
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I think the post was quickly removed (and that was a good thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:16 AM
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happened to be online and saw a notification
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 09:15 AM
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I tried to avoid good and bad. Just how propaganda would try to portray it as good. While men could complain, nobody really cared. last but not least it was a kinky story
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 09:11 AM
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Reddit formal rules consider being against feminism is equal to spreading hate against group. This wrong of course, but it doesn't actively scan comments. It responds to complaints Apparently there are people who provoke men to report them. And this is disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:07 AM
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So I speak about people who try to actively set up and report. Automated handling is a different issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:02 AM
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Nope, my comment couldn't be interpreted that way automatically without context. I think some vigilant tried to mass complain on everyone in the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:40 AM
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I was once upon a time temporarily banned for saying about women. I saw some post rant about women - they asked what you really think about women? Lot's of retards in comments. I said "They are untrustworthy backstabbing vile beings just as men". Something like that. Though, whoever reported me failed to see irony. I was banned. I appealed the ban and after a review ban was lifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:32 AM
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Losing war on hearts and minds
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:28 AM
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Said person whose nickname is two random unrelated words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:27 AM
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I don't hate feminism either. It has some social basis and is valid. The problem is that it was turned into religion and doubt is blasphemy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:47 AM
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oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:45 AM
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Not sure it is a debate topic. But the account of the provocator was active in PPD. I think men here need a warning
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:51 AM
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I'd say you exaggerate a little, but yes they are losing the war and are scared. They ignore you They laugh at you They fight you < we are here You win
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:35 AM
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I don't want to lose this one for sure. No digits in the name and exists for 8 years so far
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:30 AM
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No. It is good that she warned upfront and helped me dodge a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:24 AM
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I've got a DM from a person asking me about why do I hate feminism. I said that I don't hate feminism. He continues to dig in my comments and found me saying that some feminists clearly are female supremacist, at least about female moral supremacy in moral qualities. He asked me to quote such a feminist. I gave him a Sally Gerhardt. She was a famous misandrist and promoted reducing men to 10% of population. By the way this respected feminist academic and professor coined the "Future if there is …
/r/MensRights12/12/25 05:56 AM
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Manosphere doesn't exist. It is an artificial entity like patriarchy that has been invented by feminists to mix all men online with absolutely different views into something dreadful. Particularly they mix violent incels or braindead machists following Tate with us MRAs. Once we are all inside Manosphere they can collectively attack us by attribution of the deeds of other men. Don't play into their game. Manosphere is a myth
/r/MensRights12/12/25 03:18 AM
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Too claim that women are hypocritical on where it is OK to approach you must prove that exact same women change their opinion depending on context. It is possible that there are different women: some think option A is safe for approaching, other women say it is creepy. However, women tend to support each other. And when some women call men creepy for approaching, other women don't call these women out but band together against the rapey creepy men, not because the place was wrong to approach but…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:50 PM
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I'm limited by locations of my employer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:18 PM
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I know such tax system exists in Germany and it is very stupid. Taxes was one of the biggest reasons I moved from Germany to Armenia
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:38 PM
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this leads to women earning less than they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:05 PM
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Full time homemaker is ineffective waste of labor. You should spread it equally and agree who does what. It takes fraction of 40 hours a week. Heavily automated and sometimes better outsourced to professionals. The only situation when it is inevitable - little kids. And parental leave should be 50 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:49 PM
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He is right. Entitled women think everything is about them. And if men dare to seek happiness abroad it is somehow not about men wanting happiness but about poor western women who wee once again wronged by men. Not necessarily hubris, but also victimhood. Women need to be constantly victim of something to demand society to give them some consolation and attention
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:41 PM
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I was agreeing with you until your argument about unpaid labor. It is not women's fault if their partners offload domestic labor on them. Blaming women for not being housewives is so cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:35 PM
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or because you are an indoctrinated believer which doesn't need proof
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:01 PM
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Predictably you bluffed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:48 PM
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you are sure of course, but there are no such posts. Give links if you insist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:24 PM
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Above was said bs about ppb being 24x7 misogyny against west women. No. They left western women behind and don't care. You live in paradigm of world spinning around women. They decentered western women and focus on their lives. No. Let all the shitty women go monk and avoid men. They can only harm men anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:15 PM
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go to r/thepassportbros and check topics. They are about counties and experience. No ranting about western women in topics. There could be isolated commemts. if women don't want me, why should I care? Most likely they would be net negative addition to my life. I don't care about women who fuck someone that's not me. I dislike women who lobby polices and laws to discriminate men, spread lies about male privilege and wage this feminist gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:05 PM
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I'm reading their sub. It is 99% discussion of life and women abroad, tips, life hacks. Incelish rant is rare
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:35 PM
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When I enjoy being romantic. This is internal motivation. Like which role I enjoy at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:59 AM
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This is stupid indeed to complain and bemoan but a valid target to laugh at, when women are indeed delusional and entitled to a prince charming
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:01 AM
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He paid for his education.
/r/MensRights08/12/25 08:38 AM
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They are very primitive. Some are homophobic Karen's and queens that demand men to cater to women's whims. Other are braindead leftists who think that everyone disagreeing is a homophobic Maga retard. So they see homophobic comment as a perfect comeback
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:27 AM
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only those that are detrimental to women, not the useful ones
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:24 AM
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Stop this patriarchy bs. There's no more patriarchy. Gender roles exist though and they are a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:55 AM
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MGTOWs you see are not going away. They keep speaking about women and not living their lives. I'm not a MGTOW I'm a married man with two kids, and when I say married life is always worse, I'm not theoretical Yes, feminist men are worst enemies of the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:43 AM
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lol man without a woman is like a bicycle without a fish
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:29 AM
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Everyone dies. Single life is fine. Much better than what lots of married and divorced men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:03 AM
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This was given in specific clause that women still are sure they will get a man despite stellar standards and pissed that they have no man (usually blaming men for that) Read comments above. It is understandable to be single rather than in relationship that doesn't fit your high expectations. Choosing noone is a valid choice. But delusional women have expectations that they unreasonable standards will be magically met and are not OK with staying single for lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:58 AM
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Lol, do you say this as a bad thing? Such a primitive homophobic bait
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:55 AM
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You can call him whatever names you want. He can wipe his ass with your opinion and will be right in doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:14 PM
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Then they are indeed delusional and entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:31 PM
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Women don't choose between man A and man B. They choose between man and being single. Turns out being single is OK and they don't have to lower standards
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:52 PM
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Disagree. Modern feminism often combines disinhibition from the gender norms and pretending that women are morally superior, while men are vile. See Duluth model for DV, Istanbul convention about gender violence, Spanish LIVG laws, recent law about femicide in Italy, British current attempts to abolish female prisons. Feminism treats all women as innocent victims and no accountability for their vile actions, blaming it all on men and patriarchy. I know, a lot of people will disagree with stated …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:47 AM
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Pro choice. Abortion right is a body autonomy. However it's also a right to opt out of parenthood and only women have this right, which isn't fair
/r/MensRights30/11/25 06:06 AM
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If she is a drama queen - just dump her. Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:51 AM
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They are gaslighting. Vasectomy reversal chances drop with time. And reversal is a serious risky operation. Also they conveniently forget about his body - his choice
/r/EverydayMisandry28/11/25 11:00 AM
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I read your text and here's my feedback. Theres no natural instinct to provide and protect, it is a learned social role. It is detrimental to men and it creates unfair deal for men, as women ditched their traditional roles ( you said it yourself, that these roles were wrong to be corrected and now overcorrected) So no way, we aren't getting back to the plantation. You are not cook? That's OK, I cook decently myself and proud of my skills. But I'm not your wallet or bodyguard either. Bicycles are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/25 06:21 PM
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When a man kills a woman - this is a hate crime motivated by misogyny. When a woman kills a man - this is a self-defense against patriarchal oppressor.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/25 03:08 PM
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Most men aren't actively hating women or minorities. But as they have been treated as shit, they just stop caring and will let this misandry society burn. Realized that this is not their problem as they have little to lose anyway as it all falls apart
/r/EverydayMisandry27/11/25 06:29 AM
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We aren't debating with likes of you
/r/EverydayMisandry26/11/25 07:34 PM
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Then why can't you just shut up and ignore men? But you spam about how much you hate and despise men. Can't you just forget about men and mind your own business? Nobody is forcing you to date men
/r/EverydayMisandry26/11/25 07:13 PM
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These women would be net negative contribution to your life anyway. Exceptions are rare and usually taken. So you've lost nothing and probably dodged bullets
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:24 AM
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They are simply ragebaiting.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/11/25 07:40 AM
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I support that. Splitting the bill and equality in chores etc. In my opinion this is indeed filter of people with incompatible views Still I disagree about equating sex workers with women who expect men to pay for their dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:08 PM
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Quite a list of real issues you compiled. Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:55 PM
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This is all really good but not related to situations of conflicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 02:35 PM
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It is important to understand motives to counter them. It is not about blaming or deciding good or bad people they are. This is entirely irrelevant and not actionable. You need to understand root cause to fix the problem, not to reflect on moral side of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 01:49 PM
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As you like to say, privileged fail to see their privilege. Time to return you your statement. Women exceed men in education partly because of teachers bias. Teachers are mostly women Women instigate more onesided DV and still are considered victim by default, unless there is a proof of the otherwise. Women benefit from hiring and promoting bias in both male and female dominated workplaces Women live longer still there is much more spending on women's health. Women receive 60% less punishment fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:33 AM
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There are men who are self aware as a group, having group interests and recognizing their group is discriminated in many aspects. Over time there is more self aware men wanting changes and emancipation. Some of them are mistakenly thinking that women as a group are their enemy. Nevertheless political weight of men grows and ignoring or opposing them goes with a growing cost for politicians
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:17 AM
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To obtain resources you need lobbying and political representation, which is related to numbers of supporters. This is war for the minds and hearts first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:00 PM
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You are obviously biassed and not arguing in a good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:59 PM
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Manosphere is very diverse. In fact it doesn't exist as a single entity. But haters use it as a strawman to discredit one group of people by associating it with other groups of people. E.g. any movement being banded together with incels is easy to be portrayed as stupid/malicious/dangerous. For example - there are feminists and femcels. Obviously they are different groups, yet they are both "fem". How about tag them all as femosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:41 PM
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I stick to Hanlon's razor. If it is explainable by stupidity no need to explain it with malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:36 PM
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but from male point of view the difference is huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:50 PM
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In my opinion it is not necessary malicious attempt to pit genders, but ragebait being the most cost effective way of getting attention online. People do what gives them most reposts per effort
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:48 PM
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do you speak here about PPD only or reddit in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:40 PM
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there is some similarity and they exploit male thirst, gender roles, yet in fact they are different, as sex workers deliver guaranteed service for the price known in advance, but women who expect payment promise nothing, owe nothing in return and their cost is unpredictable - depends on their audacity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:20 PM
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I think there is symbiosis of women posting ragebait and redpiller gurus steering misogyny with the help of ragebait. They give ragebait more views and clicks. While ragebaiters fuel agenda of misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:17 PM
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Sadly it exists and probably causes political implications beyond online shitposting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:15 PM
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how exactly are men defending gold diggers here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:13 PM
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Lol, no. I recognize how widespread misandry is, many women are indeed shitty and entitled, but OP is ridiculous. Any generalization is wrong if there are counterexamples (plenty of decent women) It violates Hanlon's razor. Don't attribute to conscious malice something that can be explained by stupidity. No women aren't a hivemind plotting evil conspiracy against men. By the very same reason Patriarchy is bullshit. Btw, Even notorious 2X sub added a rule against misandry along with banning misog…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:28 PM
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No, it doesn't make dating experience bet for everyone it strokes and inflates egos of women at expense of more humiliation of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:11 AM
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She chose bear
/r/MensRights19/11/25 02:14 PM
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We are transitioning into singlehood being default and relationships/marriage losing their status of a life goal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:33 AM
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Being provider is not strictly necessary but still often expected. Nevertheless it is losing importance and nothing specific comes to replace it. Women used to need your money. Now they don't. And turns out they don't need anything from you at all. Correct answer was always to live happily and not let your world spin around women. Decenter them Focusing on career is not bad, as money can eventually free you, when you have more and can leave the grind. Just don't do it for women - do it for your …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:57 AM
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Bicycles are already doing fine without fish.
/r/MensRights16/11/25 07:15 PM
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So they are misandrist subs. Why would you want to participate anyway
/r/EverydayMisandry16/11/25 01:39 PM
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This is a ragebait, don't give her attention
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:17 AM
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I think women don't want strangers to approach them. That's a core reason not to approach. If woman is interested - she may approach and bear the risks. Otherwise she's not interested and I'll be minding my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:26 PM
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World in general doesn't. Certain industries certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 09:04 AM
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Exactly. Dating is overblown problem. Much bigger issue is misandrists gaining more and more institutional power. In education, business, politics.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 07:23 PM
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you just deny and mock experiences of straight men to demonize them. It is clearly not only about rejection. Yet portraying all mens suffering as merely not getting dates is an easy strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:32 PM
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address this to men who want virgins. Such men are minority and you pretend its true for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 04:50 AM
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First of all, are you writing in a setting where patriarchy is real and present? I.e medieval Europe or 3rd world country, maybe fantasy?
/r/MensRights11/11/25 04:49 PM
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Can't approve this. Such stance is detrimental to MRM and helps our enemies demonize us. Women are no hivemind. There are different women (as well as men). Such generalizations are stupid
/r/MensRights11/11/25 02:10 PM
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I hate gender roles. In particular expectations of men being providers and protectors. I don't need woman too cook for me either. There are certainly delusional men who want to return to imaginary past, yet I think it is caused by them being disillusioned with one sided gender equality. Women got empowerment. Men got nothing and are vilified as privileged oppressors. Misandry is everywhere. So men start to see gender equality as a scam and want opposite thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:08 AM
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It depends on how you approach the problem. If you blame universe and everyone around you for your shortcomings, this is repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:17 PM
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Women lie about SA particularly when rejected by men. Can't take no for an answer and retaliate. So sometimes avoiding sex may lead to false allegation.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/11/25 08:14 PM
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Just communicate in advance that bill will be split. It will filter out parasitic women real fast
/r/EverydayMisandry08/11/25 05:05 AM
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