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Just to be clear I wasn't actively trying to seduce her at all. I was actively gaming other women at the bar. She just was ready to branch swing and I happened to be there.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/15 03:59 PM
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RP values will only get you so far IMO. There are guys out there who's game is so tight they can f-close pretty much whenever they choose.
/r/askTRP13/03/15 10:32 PM
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I go out regularly actually. I have decent game but am looking to improve. My sticking point recently is many #-closes without being able to get a date/f-close.
/r/askTRP13/03/15 10:30 PM
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Do you realize how short Tom Cruise is? Not maybe the greatest actor or person but he's a badass alpha. Height is only a small factor and not a factor at all if you work on your other attributes. Work with the hand you're dealt. That's what we all have to do brother.
/r/askTRP09/03/15 07:46 PM
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If you're in college I would say try to be active in some organizations or groups and work on relationships with other guys. Maybe start hitting the gym too and see if you can find a workout buddy.
/r/askTRP09/03/15 07:41 PM
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There are some NMMNG counselors out there. You might have to do a little digging to find them though.
/r/askTRP09/03/15 07:40 PM
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Not necessarily. There's no way your employers would know...everything between you and your counselor would be kept confidential. You wouldn't have to tell anybody unless you wanted to.
/r/askTRP09/03/15 07:40 PM
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If you're in school (college?) usually there is some form of counseling provided at school.
/r/askTRP09/03/15 07:29 PM
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Don't go see a psychiatrist. They will just meet with you for 20 minutes to figure out what drug to put you on. Unless you are suicidal that's probably overkill.
/r/askTRP09/03/15 07:27 PM
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Therapist or psycho-therapist. Personally I think a form of therapy called DBT looks really promising although I haven't tried it yet. On a waiting list currently though.
/r/askTRP09/03/15 07:26 PM
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It's good you read the book and worked on some of the exercises. I think though the most helpful thing for me was developing relationships with other men who I can trust. If you don't have any in your life currently then I would recommend trying to find a men's group nearby, a counselor (male), or join some kind of club/meetup/organization. Relationships take time to find, develop, and grow...give yourself time to pick away at the problem. Personally I just read the book and tried to implement g…
/r/askTRP09/03/15 07:22 PM
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As a shorter guy (5' 7") I'm going to weigh in. You don't have to necessarily act enthusiastic and energetic but you do have to act. Being laid back and being stoic are two completely different things. I'm more of a stoic person and am not naturally energetic or enthusiastic. Play to your strengths. If you carry yourself with confidence and strike up conversations even if you don't do much talking you can steer the course of an interaction. I often Amog guys a foot taller than me because I carry…
/r/askTRP18/02/15 09:18 PM
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I fall into this category. I'm not sure if Trauma would have anything to do with it. I never was traumatized. I'm just pretty introverted and even though I can and have been given leadership opportunities in the past I've opted to choose a more lonerish path so that I can work on music (career/passion) and other hobbies. Being too involved in social settings and the perceived obligations of them tends to rob me of the control I need over my environment in order to achieve my personal goals. I gu…
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/15 02:02 AM
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True confidence (inner game) is hard won through adversity. You don't even know what you have until you are pushed to your limit.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 04:07 PM
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Yes. Yes. This is it. If it were easy everyone would do it. Welcome challenge, adversity, pain...these are some of our best teachers but you have to embrace it, put yourself in front of it, in order to learn from it.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/15 04:06 PM
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I'm the overambitious type when it comes to self-improvement. If I find something I think will help me improve I attack it with abandon. This is not the way to go I've found. It's the path to burnout and the life yo-yo effect. Don't try to change/integrate it all at once. Focus on the fundamentals, create lasting habits (takes at least 21 days but can take as long as 6mo.), and use simple life routines. Anything too complicated or that requires too much willpower will get quickly abandoned after…
/r/askTRP28/01/15 02:56 PM
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I think you made the right move. My guess is she will get in touch with you today to say she's sorry or try to make it up to you. If not I think u/enriquex is right. Next and focus on others.
/r/askTRP25/01/15 05:10 PM
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Fair enough. Plenty of other plates to pursue who aren't with their SO.
/r/askTRP23/01/15 02:08 PM
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A few things are wrong with your reasoning. If I were as you say...broke ass and homeless I should still be able to pull tail with sufficient game. Case in point and Mystery was also pretty broke and living at his mom's place when he was pulling mad tail.
/r/askTRP22/01/15 02:30 PM
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Yeah, change is in the works. Pill fucking swallowed.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/01/15 03:40 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree. I've adopted the fail fast and fail often mantra in my own life (from the world of start-ups in business). Examining and analyzing failure is the best way to learn in my opinion. And then, make changes! It's hard though for most of us to want to do this and be willing to shed light on what we might be doing wrong. I'm not in a marriage, but the resentment is still there. And transitioning to a RP mindset is "fucking hard." I think the process of swallowing TRP is about go…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/01/15 03:29 PM
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This is what I'm realizing. I probably erred on the side of Comfort Tests in my most recent LTR. This was pre TRP so I'm hopefully a reformed man for the next time.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/01/15 03:23 PM
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Same here. The book is new-agey feel good crap and the author is a charlatan selling what amounts to an "easy fix" crack to the masses. I'm much more a fan of you are what you do mindset. The alternative is "stoicism" which is a more pragmatic philosophy. Read "The Obstacle is The Way".
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 03:19 PM
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Not sure if there's anything you could have done better. Maybe u/tombreck2 is right escalate hard and "next" if she's not receptive. In my experience girls with bf's take repeated exposure to warm up if it's at all possible. Personally whenever I'd had any success with girls who say they have a bf it's because at some point they suggested we hang out and/or exchange information. Or, I see them often in my life routine and can work on them for an extended period of time.
/r/askTRP20/01/15 03:10 PM
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It all makes sense now. Years ago when I was a young buck I was seduced by a couger doing the very same. She was older but she had mad girl game.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/01/15 02:41 PM
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This is the kind of stuff I wish I had read a long time ago. Feeling butt-hurt about shit and expecting apologies as reparations has been a stumbling block of mine that I'm only now realizing. The captain/first-mate dynamic makes so much sense. Men care about function and don't waste their time on emotional shit.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/01/15 02:34 PM
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Not married myself, I find myself more attracted to this sub lately. This really is hard mode. I'm grateful for FR's like this. Where I've slipped up in my TRP game is on the shit tests that happen in a LTR.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/01/15 02:26 PM
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If you find out she's a quality woman and you'd be her first, you damn >well better be responsible with that power. Fuck, well, I screwed this one up. Wish I had known about this stuff earlier.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 02:18 PM
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For me and other guys on this sub 3-4mo. seems to be common.
/r/askTRP19/01/15 01:06 AM
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"Models" by Mark Manson.
/r/askTRP18/01/15 10:39 PM
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I almost never get a woman to follow up with me after I've given her my number unless she is significantly lower value than me and even then. Women just aren't hard-wired to pursue. It sounds like your doing well adopting a more RP lifestyle/attitude. Keep doing more of the same. Keep improving, and maybe next time go for getting her number or an exchange of numbers. Lead and assume the close by subtly commanding her. "Come with me, I want your help with some art/design..." rather than asking. I…
/r/askTRP18/01/15 10:35 PM
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Brave Heart.
/r/askTRP18/01/15 05:32 PM
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Role play. You have to get into character. It's like acting. Have her call you "sir" or "mr. (whateveryornameis)." If she doesn't do what you say, punish her. Reward her for good behavior. It's going to feel a little wierd at first. Just do it anyways. Start small and gradually increase the temperature of what you are doing. I've always been into BDSM but honestly it's taken me years to become comfortable treating women like a slut. I'm still working on that. Knowing that it's what they really c…
/r/askTRP16/01/15 05:31 PM
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Seriously? What kind of question is this? If you have to ask you probably aren't that alpha so it's a pretty irrelevant concern. Some "overly" alpha guy isn't going to give two shits about whether he's too alpha or not.
/r/askTRP16/01/15 05:23 PM
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In previous relationships I've usually just opened the topic of anal sex by bringing it up casually. I let that marinade for a while. Later, I've said, with one long-term relationship it was an extremely powerful and intimate experience (whichi is true). Frame it as a way to become closer, experience each other in a different way, and potentially both experience mind-blowing orgasms. Just get her thinking about it. If she wants to please you because you've made yourself dominant in the relations…
/r/askTRP16/01/15 05:14 PM
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Not in a marriage but previous LTR I had to do this. I held out for as long as I could, but fuck you know, I have ambitions in my life and eventually after I reached the limit I set for myself I broke it off. Some women will just constantly shit test and be completely unaware of themselves. I think a certain amount of self-awareness is important. Some bitches be crazy.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/01/15 05:05 PM
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Yes, you have to banter. Or "you know, I'm having an awesome time listening to (insert favorite music), doing (whatever), it'd be cool if you came over, but no pressure." I've used a version of this before when the girl was trying to back out and get me to come over to her place.
/r/askTRP16/01/15 04:59 PM
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Lol, "smashing whales." Never ceases to amaze me the amount of metaphors I find on this sub.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/15 04:53 PM
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Boredom is a symptom of lack of ambition. If you're a man with a mission you don't have time or energy to waste. Have a fucking mission in your life. Make your stamp on the world and leave us all the better for it.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/15 04:42 PM
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I feel like the "he's too short" thing is just attaching a reason, could be any reason really, to the subconcious: "he didn't give me the tingles." Plenty of short alpha men out there giving women tingles. Tom Cruise is a good example. Neil Struass (For those of you who don't know wrote "The Game") is a shrimp. I honestly don't know how the guy gets laid but he does. I think the point is, women don't really know what they're attracted too. It's a complex physical and psychological alchemy that e…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/15 04:36 PM
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This is good advice. I may have to let it go to salvage the friendship and not make a big deal out of it.
/r/askTRP16/01/15 04:31 PM
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Paid work. I've worked for him before so we've worked together successfully on projects. But yes, I will take this as a lesson and be more careful about hiring friends. I also, could have been a bit more clear about my expectations. Lessons learned.
/r/askTRP16/01/15 04:28 PM
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Wife is someone with integrity and I couldn't see her branch swinging. I catch her admiring but that's I'm sure as far as it would go. I also don't poach from my friends.
/r/askTRP16/01/15 04:26 PM
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Already did this, but that's good advice.
/r/askTRP16/01/15 04:24 PM
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I totally agree. It's pretty sad. I have a good friend (one of the few I've kept around who's female) who has already hit the wall but doesn't realize it. She's also pretty alpha widowed and seems to have this bitterness towards men. She goes out on OKC dates and then is all butt-hurt when it doesn't work out. I could tell her exactly what she needs to do to present herself as more attractive and snag a decent guy but I'm pretty sure she would just write me off as a misogynistic asshole. I've hi…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/15 05:16 PM
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This is a tough one. I personally after having taken the redpill have few guys friends who I would consider good counsel when it comes to most things redpill related. The reason this sub is so attractive to me is because I think we're in the middle of a cultural epidemic involving the emasculation of men at large. It's striking to me how many of my successful powerful male friends are still pretty blue pill when it comes to a lot of things. It's honestly hard to be friends with those guys becaus…
/r/askTRP15/01/15 05:05 PM
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After having spun plates and main plated a solid 8 for a while last year. I would totally LTR up with a 6 if she was quiet, calm, didn't shit test me too much, and someone I could have a decent conversation with. I was telling one of my guy friends this the other day. The reality is spinning plates, going out, always gaming is a lot of fucking work. At the moment I've got work and then ambitions outside of work that could easiy take up nearly 100% of my time/energy. You did good. I'd totally LTR…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/15 04:43 PM
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My instinct is to help where I can.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 02:26 PM
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Horse to water, my thoughts exactly. I've introduced the book NMMNG to the group which some are reading. I hadn't heard of two of the blogs you mentioned. Will take a look.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 02:25 PM
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Yes, this has been my approach so far. I have to resist using PU and RP terminology.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 02:20 PM
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I would argue even with Major Depression the overall health benefits of not being on the drugs long-term outweighs the risk of get off of them in most cases. Unfortunately this is something that isn't usually supported by the doctors and health care professionals most people come into contact with. But there's a growing number of them who do and are working against the (you need a pill for everything) idea. Depression is a complex issue that stems from multiple factors in a persons life. Using m…
/r/askTRP08/01/15 03:10 PM
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I would start here http://www.theroadback.org/workbook.aspx. I worked closely with a Physician who specialized in getting people off their meds. You have to replace what the drugs are offering with good nutrition, healthy living, and psychological healing/tools. Tapering slowly seems to be the best method. Also, many psychiatrists doctors don't support getting off meds enough. Find one who does. If you can't, do the hard work to understand the science and do it yourself albeit safely. Hope this …
/r/askTRP08/01/15 03:04 PM
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Are you looking for a plate or a gf?
/r/askTRP04/01/15 05:02 PM
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I dated a chick who was like this. I'm naturally pretty quiet myself. Honestly not filling the air with chatter of your own and just creating "space" for her to fill will eventually get her talking. Don't be uncomfortable in the silence. Be open to receiving whatever she has to offer you and build comfort. Also, most women I know/have dated talk way too much. Why would you want that to change?
/r/askTRP04/01/15 02:44 PM
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I'm usually more successful when I go out solo. I'm an introvert so this works for me oddly. I would support this though. Good motivation to get out and game women. Always Be Opening fellas.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/15 04:29 PM
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This post says it all: http://www.reddit.com/r/getdisciplined/comments/1q96b5/i_just_dont_care_about_myself/ Read the first comment once you read the post.
/r/askTRP01/01/15 06:54 PM
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Similar here. I usually just go with I'm not drinking right now. If they ask I usually go with a vague "health reasons" which is true for me. I don't let not drinking stop me from going to bars. Most people in my experience don't care if you drink or not. It's a non-issue IMO.
/r/askTRP30/12/14 05:43 PM
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1-10 what would you rate her on the crazy meter? If she is low drama you could probably get away with a discreet relationship.
/r/askTRP30/12/14 05:40 PM
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Some girls fantasize about other girls. It's totally a thing. Dated a plate for a while who was into girls and we talked about this but unfortunately never was able to make it happen. I was moving things in that direction though when the relationship exploded.
/r/askTRP25/12/14 07:29 AM
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I hate to admit it but the best sex I ever had was with a bitch who was engaged. There's something to this.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/14 06:59 AM
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From an evolutionary perspective it's pretty Alpha. More offspring means more genetic potential.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/14 06:57 AM
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Redirecting frame is a powerful move. You have to maintain frame in order to even come back with a comeback in these situations. I love teasing women when they do stupid shit.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/12/14 09:09 PM
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I read this differently. I think the main gist is to be outcome independent but still take action. Do not be motivated first by desire but by reason, use desire though as a motivating force. You can only be in control of your life up to a point. Where you live is not always in your control. Your frame of mind however is always something you control. Ok, there's no reason to not pursue good food but only if it's healthy food. He may have been referring to unhealthy food.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/14 09:03 PM
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Except when you're plating women don't just think with you're cock. There's no quicker way to go back to being beta.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/14 01:54 AM
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OP you obviously know a lot about the finer points of PUA style game. Where did you learn it? Well written and informative FR by the way.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 06:46 PM
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Good luck.
/r/askTRP22/12/14 06:29 PM
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Coffee shops. Still one of my favorite daytime date spots. Cliche maybe but seems to work for me. Live music venues aren't always 21+. I've had luck inviting girls over for dinner. Or offer to come over and cook dinner at their place. I'm not sure why this is but cooking dinner with a girl is pretty gold for me. It's a pretty simple situation to take charge of if you know what you're doing (hint: know what you're doing). Parties are typically something I wait until after a few dates. Why would I…
/r/askTRP21/12/14 10:02 PM
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I'm about your height. Broader shoulders than average and muscular as well. Where I've run into problems is shirts that fit in the shoulders are too long. Shirts that fit everywhere else don't fit in the shoulders. I either compromise and where a shirt that's slightly too small in the shoulders but not too long (it's worse to look short and frumpy). My muscularity tends to fluctuate throughout the year (lot's more endurance work in the warmer months) so sometimes I have to ditch the button ups a…
/r/askTRP21/12/14 09:53 PM
1

In addition to not watching porn (wish I had your self-control at your age) I'd recommend masturbating in moderation. Once per week (fantasizing about a hottie you want to bang but haven't banged yet is encouraged) is what Mark Manson recommends in "Models" (worth a read). I've had trouble with this off and on too and I've been having sex for a while now. Usually it's with a new partner who I'm not completely comfortable with yet. I'd take it slow if I were you. Also, go buy some lube if you don…
/r/askTRP21/12/14 05:22 PM
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Sounds like you made the right decision for yourself. I haven't been in a LTR since discovering RP but my hunch is that you can't reason with women about the Captain/1st Mate dynamic if they're not already open to it. It has to be implied by your actions. If that doesn't work, best to move on. Nice work, setting limits for yourself and not letting yourself get pushed past them.
/r/askTRP21/12/14 05:16 PM
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Yeah I read some of the articles on his site. Lot's of good stuff there.
/r/askTRP21/12/14 04:57 PM
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I do believe this is a thing. I've definitely fucked two plates in the same day without a shower in-between (no time).
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 09:28 AM
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I've been lurking here for a while and have definitely swallowed the red pill. But I'm still amazed at how indoctrinated my thinking still is. I never really realized how unfair things are. Kicking out your wife because she doesn't have sex with you should be a legitimate option. It's totally fair.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 09:25 AM
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Additionally. If you haven't yet, read No More Mr. Nice Guy. Also it might be worthwhile to join a men's group which is recommended in the book. I have a men's group I go to and it's been a life changer. Can't really talk about explicit RedPill stuff there without confusing everybody but it's still a pretty good outlet otherwise.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 09:19 AM
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I honestly don't have anywhere to go to talk RedPill other than here. All my guy friends are pretty indoctrinated still. I'm working on a couple of them, but it will be a while I think until they see the light.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 09:16 AM
1

Awesome. Same here. Tracking goals with a spreadsheet.
/r/askTRP21/12/14 09:12 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I'll be blocking those sites. Also, I've read the same advice about jerking off to women I know IRL from "Models" by Mark Manson. Is that where you got that from?
/r/askTRP21/12/14 09:12 AM
1

Meditation is a powerful tool. IMO it's benefits have such a domino effect. After working out it's really something to make a priority because it has such far reaching implications for everything else you do. Keep us updated. I'd be curious to hear how your Monk Mode is going for you.
/r/askTRP20/12/14 08:07 PM
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I've been a student of productivity for many years but I've never been able to get time-tables to work for me. Typically I can keep up with them for a few days and then rebel against my own schedule. I need more flexibility than that. Yes to limiting smart-phone use. I got rid of mine once it broke and haven't missed it. I even leave my 'dumb' phone at home sometimes. Personally I'm having difficulty breaking my addiction to porn.
/r/askTRP20/12/14 08:03 PM
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Yep. Evolution isn't fair.
/r/askTRP20/12/14 06:35 AM
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After a year of spinning plates and allowing that to become a huge distraction and I realized I was still seeking validation from women. After learning Game I was successful and the pussy became pretty seductive. I still felt my life lacked an overarching sense of purpose and I was putting too much time into getting the pussy and not enough time into myself and my life ambitions. I decided to take a 1 month break to re-group and reassess. I found myself completely lost and really had to take sto…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 06:31 AM
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I'm currently in Monk Mode myself. I'm probably only going for at most a 3mo. term at this (Started Dec. 1st). It sounds like you have a good plan. I'm focusing on the following things: Meditating: the best way to re-program your brain IMO ("Wherever you go there you are") Teaching myself Jazz piano Diet (Here's my diet) Fitness (Here's my fitness bible) Career Development (This) Productivity & Time Management (too many books to mention, OP PM me if you want this list) Not watching Porn & Mastur…
/r/askTRP20/12/14 05:39 AM
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Stop what you are doing, pause, take a deep breath and take a hard look at the reality of the situation. I won't bother repeating what has already been said here. Here's the truth about being a man. Men have emotions or the "feels" as you say just like everyone else. The difference is whether you let that cloud your judgement and guide your actions. You always have a choice. You have a choice to see this situation for what it really is. You have a choice to not react emotionally but to act thoug…
/r/askTRP19/12/14 10:38 PM
1

There's the kind of Alpha you want to be and the kind that you don't. This kind has a shelf life. Be the kind that goes the distance.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 08:35 PM
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Have dated a singe mother before discovering RP and can verify this is true.
/r/askTRP18/12/14 07:00 PM
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Seconded: "Models." Things really started to click once I read this.
/r/askTRP18/12/14 06:52 PM
1

If I had to sum it up in one word. Conviction. People tend to follow those with conviction.
/r/askTRP18/12/14 06:49 PM
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It's surprising what most people will accept if you deliver the information with a positive frame and confidence. Hard to articulate exactly what this entails since there are so many skills involved. Maybe read up on persuasion.
/r/askTRP18/12/14 06:48 PM
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I've been there. The kick in the gut feeling goes away. I find having healthy routines I follow in my life seems to help. Also, fucking other girls. It sounds like she's not good for you so I wouldn't feed the monster by agreeing to talk to her.
/r/askTRP17/12/14 07:44 PM
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I think in an LTR it would be difficult to not let her know. I think you make your life a lot easier by telling her early and letting her decide. While not married I've been Poly for a while. I've found that people are usually open to poly formats even if they reject it at first. It's all about how you deliver the information. Yes, you risk losing her, but I think if your SMV is high and you deliver the info well you have a pretty good chance of not losing her.
/r/askTRP17/12/14 07:34 PM
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I think women fear emotional infidelity a lot more than just physical. A man who's loses emotional investment is no longer a good provider.
/r/askTRP17/12/14 07:29 PM
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If you are open about your status you will for sure encounter more resistance but then again there are women out there who have a thing for married men so I don't know... I'd read "The Ethical Slut" if I were you. I read it when I was exploring polyamory and it helps to have the language to make a case for yourself. Even if you're RP you might have more luck if you can put a bit of spin on your situation. Edit: Oh, looks like you've already read TES.
/r/askTRP17/12/14 07:26 PM
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I'm not super tall of stature but I've always moved this way. Women have commented, or just stared, at how I moved for a long time. They even make fun of how I "move like a wall" as one woman put it, but I know they love it. Another said "you move very efficiently, no wasted movements." I never step out of the way when walking down the street, people move out of my way. It's always been this way. I can attest, body language is probably one of the most important communicators in terms of attracti…
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 10:07 PM
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I think this is very telling about what is actually Alpha and what isn't. True leaders lead from the back not from the front. Read up on Shackleton. Consistently put others before himself and yet won the respect and admiration of men everywhere. Women can smell true confidence. I'd be willing to bet those other men at the gym don't possess true confidence.
/r/askTRP15/12/14 09:58 PM
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In my own experience and in posts on here I seem to see this number. I'd be willing to bet there's some biological reason for this we just haven't studied yet. The only time this isn't the case is if the women is actively not looking for a committed relationship. I've typically found this to be the case with women I've dated who are over 30 and state early on that they aren't looking for anything committed. Ironically, we usually end up dating a lot longer.
/r/askTRP15/12/14 09:47 PM
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You could write a more detailed FR about one of your most recent interactions for us to analyze. I think a lot of the advice on here "just become more RedPill" etc. isn't very actionable. With more detailed information we might be able to analyze and see something you haven't. If you haven't covered the basics though, work out and study, then we have very little to offer you.
/r/askTRP15/12/14 09:29 PM
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It sounds like your on the right track by reading some books. If you looking for answers about whether you should leave or not well that's up to you. The path out of AFC is not an overnight thing. I definitely was one of those guys a few years ago before I discovered "The Game." I've also read NMMNG. If I were you I'd do exactly as he says to in the book. Find a men's group, male therapist, and start hanging out with guys. Make yourself a priority. Ask your wife to read NMMNG too so she understa…
/r/askTRP15/12/14 09:22 PM
2

I've totally been there. I once had a friend of mine and my roomate at the time pull this girl I was dating and made out with her at my own birthday party! I nexted both of them. It's not worth getting angry over. Learn to control your emotions, study up and practice. Look at rejection as an opportunity to learn and improve. Every rejection is just one step closer to success. Fail better as they say. Chin up dude.
/r/askTRP15/12/14 02:38 AM
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Women talk. 'Nuf said.
/r/askTRP15/12/14 02:28 AM
6

Dude, LIFE is a game. "The world is a stage and we're merely players." - said by some famous playwright before there were video games.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 08:05 PM
5

This is gold. It's amazing how he subtley negs the shit out of her about her ex-boyfriend and thus establishes a dominant frame. She's practically eye fucking him the rest of the interview.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 08:00 PM
2

I have a 3 calls/texts rule. I used to only call or text once until I learned women are just flaky sometimes for no logical reason. On the 3rd one though I make it clear that "this is the last time I'll be able to text/call you and this is your last chance to see me." This demonstrates you are a HV male and is kind of a hail mary. If she doesn't text or call you after the 3rd time she's not going to.
/r/askTRP14/12/14 07:50 PM
1

At some point in the seduction you have to build rapport in order to get sex. Asking her about herself shouldn't by itself destroy your frame. If on a subconscious level you are asking her about herself because you yourself are seeking some sort of validation from her then she will feel that and lose attraction for you. It's about who's more invested. If she's more invested you can ask her, talk to her, about anything you want.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 07:45 PM
1

It's frustrating to not be able to talk about TRP outside of reddit. Even if my guy friends 'might' be receptive to it, usually I dole out RP wisdom in small doses to test the waters before I go all in. To this day still haven't told anyone about RP.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 07:31 PM
4

I'm not such a big fan of RSD style game. You only need tricks, gimmicks and scripts to get girls where you want if you don't possess inner game. Also it tends to give men the impression that there's a 'move' if you will for every type of situation like playing a video game. Real life is way too complicated for that. I definitely got stuck in this trap for 2 years before I realized this. Nowadays I tend to prefer a much more direct approach. It's really more about 'how' you say it (frame it) not…
/r/askTRP14/12/14 07:27 PM
3

Sex is a pretty good reason in my book.
/r/askTRP14/12/14 07:27 PM
1

I like this dialogue opener from Foomfoom. We use scripts in pick-up game, why can't there be LTR scipts as well? Totally going to use this next time it comes up.
/r/askTRP14/12/14 07:15 PM
2

Dude, don't get stuck in paralysis by analysis with all of the info from the above post. Some of that stuff is just stuff you'll understand after you've had some more dating success. (no offense /u/SkorchZang) I think you're on the right track already. Just focus on getting the date, then analyze afterwords. Read up on game. You'll learn far more this way.
/r/askTRP14/12/14 07:11 PM
2

Yes, isolating them usually helps build rapport. It sounds like you made a solid connection during the initial interaction. Why are you surprised? You are the prize, remember?
/r/askTRP14/12/14 07:05 PM
2

Ever heard of exposure therapy? It's used to treat trauma and ocd. You let approach anxiety get the better of you. Practice making approaches and opening people (not just women) then you'll be more confident when it counts. Expose yourself to the discomfort. One of my motto's is ABO (Always Be Opening). I open the barista at the coffee shop when I buy a coffee. I open people I'm standing in line with. I'm always practicing my skills. There's always anxiety associated with approaching the key is …
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 06:37 AM
2

Nicknames are one of my favorite ways to build rapport and establish a playful/sexy frame. I've even had plates remind me when I forget their nickname that they like being called by it. One of my recent plates name was "Kitty kat." She called me "gentle viking." No joke. Edit: Ok, I have more. Nicknames seem to speed up the feels in plates. Creates feelings of intimacy/specialness. Plates love feeling they are special to you. Nicknames are earned. Also, seems to instantly bring a plate into the …
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 06:24 AM
7

You were the rebound fuck. Nice work. She may not be looking for more than that. If she's not biting the second time around, soft next her, and pursue other plates man. Give them a good fucking and they'll usually come back for more, but that's not always a guarantee.
/r/askTRP14/12/14 06:20 AM
2

It's hard to keep a plate spinning longer than 3-4mo. in my experience without offering more of a commitment. A quality girl will typically be looking for more of a commitment, if not right away, at some point down the line. It sounds like she's starting to want more of a commitment from you. If you're not ready for that with this girl you may need to let her go and pursue other plates.
/r/askTRP14/12/14 06:15 AM
2

Nice work on getting the digits. I usually call or text the next day. Typically when you text doesn't make or break the interaction but how well the connection was made in person. I'd text her back and keep it simple. "Hey, it was nice talking with you, let's get together next week." (for exampe) Then follow up in a day or two with a call or text, "Hey, if you're free (day) let's get coffee."
/r/askTRP14/12/14 06:08 AM
3

Nope. I would never keep a friend around who does this. Friends are there to wing
/r/askTRP14/12/14 05:58 AM
2

Bros before hoes as they say. I'd say it's an unwritten code that you don't hit on your friend's dates. Talk with him and if that doesn't work drop the friend and the girl.
/r/askTRP14/12/14 05:55 AM
2

"Hi" or "Hello" with a genuine smile is a classic. I'd start there. A lot of people graduate from "Hi" to scripted opinion openers but those never worked well for me. I prefer situational openers such as what BP is talking about. One of my other favorites is the extremely direct "Hey, I think you're really cute (sexy,hot, or whatever) and I'd be kicking myself the rest of the day (night) if I didn't at least come ask you for your number (come talk to you)." I call this one the Tim Ferriss becaus…
/r/askTRP14/12/14 04:50 AM
1

I often detox from alcohol for a month or more just for health reasons. Typically if I frame it correctly no one bothers me. "I'm just not drinking right now, my mind is my biggest asset, why would I jeopardize?" for example. People respect that. She's prodding you to see if you're confident. Don't put up with her teasing. You can tease her back but that might risk you looking like you've let it rattle you. Walk away or ignore her would be my advice. It takes a strong man to walk away from somet…
/r/askTRP14/12/14 04:39 AM
1

I usually meet plates for a date first and then transition to her place or mine after drinks or whatever. In my experience it's notoriously difficult to get a girl back to your place through text if you haven't laid the foundation (get it? laid?).
/r/askTRP14/12/14 04:31 AM
2

Right on ColdTang. Reality is what you make it. That's the whole essence of Red Pill.
/r/askTRP14/12/14 04:26 AM
1

Holy shit, that's a thing??
/r/askTRP13/12/14 06:24 AM
3

Did you get the LJBF speech or just make a bad impression? I'd continue to work on your game, work on yourself, soft next her and come back around to her later when you've elevated your SMV.
/r/askTRP13/12/14 06:14 AM
0

/u/fnordsnord is right, they do eventually drop. There's a loose correlation between how much energy you put into a relationship and what you get out of it. The question is, how much energy are you willing to put into this to keep her spinning? In my experience you're either growing closer or further apart. If you want to keep her spinning it is going to take more work and even then it may not be possible. My advice would be this. Make her feel special. Women love to feel special. Presents and/o…
/r/askTRP12/12/14 07:30 AM
1

It's very easy to catch the "feels" with your first. I'd say it's hard to know if you're in 'love' with anyone at the stage you're at (hell I'm still not sure I know what 'love' is), best you can hope for is 'infatuated.' I'd recommend a 'nice' girl though. Someone who isn't going to tear your heart out and stomp on it after you have sex. But no, doesn't have to be the L word at this stage in the game.
/r/askTRP11/12/14 04:09 AM
2

Contact her less than she contacts you or just to set up logistics.
/r/askTRP11/12/14 04:01 AM
1

If you're not seeing anyone else I'd recommend continuing the pursuit just for practice. See how far you can get before you get a firm rejection. Also, try approaching some other women. Also, I don't understand the philosophy of 'hard nexting' every woman who isn't interested me sexually. I've gotten out of the friend zone enough times to know it's possible to convert women friends. If LTR is 'hard mode' this skill would probably be between 'novice' and 'hard' though. 'Apprentice?' Plus women fr…
/r/askTRP11/12/14 03:52 AM
1

Hard to know with this one. Because of your history she could already consider you a friend (and thus you're friend-zoned) but providing her number via email and agreeing to go out a drink with you communicates interest. I would say you were somewhere in the 'grey zone' (marginally interested) with her and quite probably "um, not like a date?" was really a shit test. She's trying to get you to show your hand. Personally I think being direct in this situation and saying "Yes it's a date." might p…
/r/askTRP11/12/14 03:41 AM
1

Good luck!
/r/askTRP10/12/14 02:11 AM
1

No problem. Hope it helps.
/r/askTRP10/12/14 02:09 AM
1

Hey, just read NMMNG myself. While I don't exactly have your problem, my Mom was controlling, and emotionally abusive. My main takeaway from reading the book was that it was important to have healthy relationships with other men and to have a safe space to talk about the stuff I like to hide. Maybe your Mom isn't a safe space right now? She could be later on. I would focus on finding a group of male friends, a men's group, or a male therapist to begin your journey of self work. There's no reason…
/r/askTRP08/12/14 08:28 PM
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Dude, it sounds like you're depressed. Before you worry about girls or even 'cuddling' you need to read this. I've been there. If there's a step one to getting back on your feet it's this post. http://www.reddit.com/r/getdisciplined/comments/1q96b5/i_just_dont_care_about_myself/ The first comment is where it's at. It's all pretty good if you have the time.
/r/askTRP08/12/14 08:12 PM
1

I can relate to your last paragraph. Have never had problems in this department. It's getting them into my bed that's been more of an issue. I'm looking forward to reading "Sex God Method." I've recently discovered this subreddit. Even though I was spinning plates and successfully seducing women I was way over invested. I still had some beta traits that caused me to believe I had to invest to get sex. Reading this is encouraging. My next round of plates will be held to a different standard.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/14 06:10 PM
1

Meditation is about as red pill as it gets. Talk about being completely unplugged. Enlightenment is the ultimate form of being unplugged from the Matrix. There's no 'right' way to say this. Meditation is objectiveless. It is goaless practice. If you're developing the habit to meditate, then you're already off to a good start. Sit. Focus on your breathing. Let your thoughts pass through you. Don't worry that you're having thoughts. You're objective right now is just to make meditation a habit. My…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/14 06:00 PM
1

/r/NonZeroDay. Do at least one thing good for myself every day. Everything else is gravy.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/14 05:44 PM
1

No insult taken. Thanks brother. Definitely recognize mine isn't "the worst ever."
/r/TheRedPill06/12/14 04:34 PM
1

Haha, yes. Rollercoaster bitches. I will have to remember that one.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 03:17 PM
1

This was my situation too. Although, maybe with some time at
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 03:16 PM
1

Not really that easy but I wish it was. Relationships I've had are intentionally open and typically last between 3-6mo. I've worked on my game but focus more on quality relationships in a mLTR format. I'm not the best at just going out and pulling numbers at will or f-closing those who's numbers I do get. Definitely a sticking point in my game I'm going to focus on.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 03:15 PM
1

This post was fresh off the heals of my breakup. I agree, many have been through far worse. It could always be worse. Relatively speaking, not the worst ever. Certainly my worst though.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 03:09 PM
15

I think this is the perfect example of still letting women control your frame. Going to extra effort just to beat them at their own game? Why waste your time? Red pill is accepting the world the way it is and that women are the way they are. This isn't something we can attack head on gentleman. Understanding the machinery will allow us to maneuver better, set ourselves up for success despite the circumstances. Spiteful and emotional reactions to what is won't get us anywhere. Channel the emotion…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 03:04 PM
1

Valid point. I would definitely have had major reservations about a committed relationship with her.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:28 PM
1

She did openly discuss it with other guy. We ran into each other at one point, myself and her other partner. No issues there.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:25 PM
1

I was doing an ethical open relationship. I've routinely discussed my other relationships with my other partners.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:23 PM
1

Many of you might feel differently on this particular issue but I've decided for myself that I'm not willing to fool around or fuck anyone not single or in an open relationship. That's pretty much my ethical hard-line. I believe and have found the problems it can create is not worth the sex. Especially if I know the guy. Bros before hoes.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:20 PM
1

Yes, this is exactly what I've realized one of my biggest mistakes was. Unfortunately, I only learned this too late in the game after discovering TRP. Next time.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:17 PM
1

Thanks for the book recommendation. I'll have to check that out. Sorry to hear about your terrible break-up, that's rough.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:14 PM
1

We had the strongest connection and the sex was phenomenal. Not trying to settle, but hoping to have an open LTR with her.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:12 PM
1

Glad you wisened up man. Getting caught up in someone else's drama can really put a damper on things.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:10 PM
1

Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, I didn't realize how much of what was going on was one giant shit test. Probably still wouldn't have saved the relationship if I had known, but I wouldn't have caught feelings nearly as hard. This relationship ending was the beginning of my discovery of TRP. Good luck with your journey brother.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:09 PM
1

As I stated, I just recently discovered TRP. Wish I'd known this stuff earlier.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:05 PM
1

Thanks. What would you describe as the worst breakup ever?
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:04 PM
1

I should have been more clear about this. We were in an open relationship and per the terms of the relationship we were both allowed to see other people. This is something we discussed openly.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 09:00 PM
1

I'm open about the fact that I'm dating other people. Depending on the plate sometimes this is something that is discussed openly. I would say we were in what is termed an "Open Relationship." She never cheated on her boyfriend, but they did negotiate an open relationship before we started dating.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 08:59 PM
1

Maslow's hierarchy of needs as I recall. Good advice on prioritizing.
/r/askTRP30/11/14 06:37 AM
1

This is good advice. Thank you. I think you're are right and I maybe trying to change too much all at once.
/r/askTRP30/11/14 06:35 AM
1

This reply is pretty unhelpful. You're a jerk.
/r/askTRP30/11/14 06:34 AM
1

Seconded. Mods, get rid of this douchebag /u/ZombieJorge.
/r/askTRP29/11/14 02:23 AM
1

And neither are you. No truly red pill man needs to tear other people down. True confidence is magnanimous. Jerks are not red pill. Every one of us had to start somewhere and there is always room for growth. Maybe you should take your own advice and get lost. This isn't the kind of commentary we need here.
/r/askTRP29/11/14 02:20 AM
2

Girls love feeling secure. Stay calm. Listen. Hold her tight. Show her you hear her. Ironically not offering solutions will have more therapeutic effect. I've totally been that guy too. You don't have to be an asshole about it. Just don't feed the monster.
/r/askTRP29/11/14 02:14 AM
1

Yes, I'm beginning to draw this conclusion too. Red pill paradigm is hard to shift but it's becoming my new paradigm slowly.
/r/askTRP29/11/14 02:08 AM
4

Kind of sounds like you are already her Beta Orbiter. You're the emotional support that she's not getting in her relationship. If she was interested in fucking you she wouldn't be talking to you about the problems she's having in her relationship. In fact she probably would be downplaying the fact that she is even in a relationship or reluctant to talk about it. This has been my experience. You're pretty clearly in the friend zone at this point. I'd suggest not engaging when she starts talking t…
/r/askTRP28/11/14 12:28 AM
3

Yes to this. LTR's need the occasional romance. Not all the time but enough to show her you care about her and to create warm fuzzies whenever she thinks about things you've done together. Also, giving little gifts once in a while, spontaneously can work wonders.
/r/askTRP27/11/14 11:59 PM
1

I've heard accutane or other acne drugs taken orally can have the side effect of making people depressed. I'd look into that if I were you. I'd say this is beyond the scope of TRP in terms of what you need. I'd try to go see a school counselor if I were you. I would bet your school has a few. Spit balling here but it also feels to me like you might be having a bit of an existential crisis. Lack of a personal mission in life. I'm not really sure what the solution is to this one. A starting point …
/r/askTRP27/11/14 11:55 PM
1

It's kind of like getting a job with no prior work experience. Everybody has got to start somewhere and it might be harder to find one the first time around. I'd say just try to meet a nice girl who's more the nurturing type. Typically they will be more understanding and forgiving. A girl with tattoos and an attitude might blow you out once they realize you aren't experienced enough to give them what they crave thereby crushing your confidence. Be ready though to get really attached to the first…
/r/askTRP27/11/14 11:17 PM
2

Just want to weigh in from a guy's perspective. While I'm definitely interested in finding a potential exclusive LTR with the right woman I probably would never be willing to agree to an exclusive relationship prior to sex. It takes time to get to know someone and I just wouldn't wait that long for sex. I'd let her go and move on to my other options.
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/14 06:57 PM
2

A few of you PM'd me about the testosterone libido enhancing protocol. Here's a link to it. http://www.scribd.com/doc/50509373/Adventures-in-Tripling-Testosterone-Cheat-Sheet This works. I've used this myself. This is borrowed from "The Four Hour Body" by Tim Ferriss. Worth a read for this and has great chapters on building muscle and six pack abs.
/r/askTRP27/11/14 04:55 AM
1

This is funny. True. Women are a vault. A puzzle. Keeps life interesting. I do find myself pre-occupied with other aspects of my life at times though.
/r/askTRP27/11/14 03:26 AM
1

This is helpful insight. I do see her as more than just sex. I also don't really care if it doesn't work out either. Maybe she is just feeling my aloofness. Ironic, because I think this is one of the things that originally attracted herself to me. She has said so. Also, you're right it could stem from more of a universal insecurity she has about herself.
/r/askTRP27/11/14 03:24 AM
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Not all, but just a few are that long. Not uncommon to be 3+ months though. I bridge the gap from less serious to more of an intentional open relationship structure with those I'm interested in. Works because there's a whole philosophy underpinning it that has a precedent and is practiced by others.
/r/askTRP27/11/14 01:06 AM
1

I see your point. Honestly, I wouldn't care if she broke it off or friend-zoned me tomorrow. I'm not attached. There are plenty of women to meet, seduce, date. I'm just wondering if there is a better way to handle this or if others have experience/suggestions to offer.
/r/askTRP27/11/14 01:03 AM
1

Agree completely. I often say, Me: "I am many things...kind of a renaissance man...if you will. That is definitely a conversation in itself." Her: "So what do you do?" Me: ___________________(insert personal mission here) Yours might be: Understanding the very fabric of the universe....life itself, and describing it in a most elegant and beautiful way. or Professional star gazer. (astro-physicist) You literally have to sell yourself. Women are looking for a man with conviction and purpose.
/r/askTRP27/11/14 12:58 AM
1

Good advice. Thanks.
/r/askTRP27/11/14 12:03 AM
0

Hmmm...might be worth a try.
/r/askTRP26/11/14 11:41 PM
2

That's great. Pulling numbers isn't always easy. However, I would say maintain the interaction longer than you feel is necessary. The number isn't the goal, it's just a place-holder to continue an already positive interaction. Mystery states he usually has the most luck with those he talks to for at leas 25 minutes usually closer to 40 minutes (source Annihilation Method videos on youtube). During some interactions this might not always be possible though. Use your best judgement. I would try su…
/r/askTRP26/11/14 11:38 PM
4

You're welcome OP. I would suggest treat sex as if it were an art form. One that you are just learning. Let her be your canvas. Focus on all different forms of sensual touching. Kiss, lick, bite, nibble, caress, squeeze, grab, pull any part of her body. Women are highly sensual creatures and love to be touched all over their bodies. Let your imagination run wild. Your best teacher will be your own awareness. Observe her reactions. Observe your own reactions. 'Listen' with you're whole body and y…
/r/askTRP26/11/14 11:20 PM
1

Take a deep breath. Square your shoulders. Stand up straight. You're going to have to confront him. Speak clearly and camly: "It's completely unacceptable for you to hit me, it's disrespectful, and you need to stop. This is you're one and only warning. If it happens again I will not hesitate to inform the higher ups (whoever is in charge, HR if it's a big company). Have I made myself clear?" or something along those lines. He may tease you but don't back down. If it happens again, follow through…
/r/askTRP26/11/14 11:09 PM
2

If you want to sleep with her: Be prepared for 'crazy' because things will certainly be emotional for her for a while. Don't try to be the solution to her problem. Listen but don't engage too much. If you do, you will wind up playing the role of the therapist and that won't get you laid.
/r/askTRP26/11/14 10:55 PM
4

Fair enough. I'm not just interested in sex though that's the thing. We have a pretty good time outside and in the bedroom. Musical collaboration is also a plus in this one.
/r/askTRP26/11/14 10:43 PM
1

I get it. There's a limit to how long I can keep a plate spinning. Most recently though have had some pretty solid relationships with plates lasting 6-10 mo.
/r/askTRP26/11/14 10:41 PM
1

Lol, yes this seems to be my problem.
/r/askTRP26/11/14 10:19 PM
1

Yes, sometimes I could care less. Take up acting maybe?
/r/askTRP26/11/14 10:18 PM
2

Can you describe in a little more detail how a typical interaction goes for you? How far do you get usually before you have to eject without a phone number/kiss/or something else? I can't help you with your sticking point if I don't know where it is. Opener? Flirting? Kino escalation? Isolation? # close? Kiss close? Being too familiar too early i.e. "already on a date" can seem weird I think, but once comfort and IoI's are gained you can definitely go there. Also, your dating f-closing rate is i…
/r/askTRP26/11/14 10:15 PM
3

I sometimes have the same experience. There's a certain amount of anxiety I carry into the bedroom especially once the clothes come off with an unfamiliar person. I can be really attracted to the person even. I've heard of this happening to other guys as well. I've accepted that for me sometimes there's just a certain level of comfort with another person that I need to reach before I can turn off my brain and be turned on by another person. My solution is to just maintain frame throughout the in…
/r/askTRP26/11/14 09:55 PM
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