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I’m doing very well on tinder but nowhere else. Haven’t tried bumble or hinge yet though
/r/seduction30/06/22 11:57 PM
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A lot of that is natural insecurities everybody has. You do want to work on it but it’s a lifelong process. I’m 35, it’s taken a long time to get to this point. My early 20s with women were hell. I mean I had some wonderful relationships but I absolutely did not understand why breakups and rejections happened so I took everything super personal. You’ll get better with time and experience.
/r/seduction30/06/22 11:23 PM
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Internalize and accept that most all relationships will end, whatever you’ve got with her could disappear any day without warning. With that knowledge in your pocket choose to fully enjoy your time with her while you have it, clingy feelings and all. That general mindset keeps me pretty damn stress free no matter what’s happening with any woman I get involved with.
/r/seduction30/06/22 11:04 PM
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Anti anxiety medication maybe? I’m thinking about it myself. I also panic when I see obvious choosing signals, like they’re trying to trick me or something. You used to word fear a lot though so that may be something to look into.
/r/seduction30/06/22 03:04 AM
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The best advice that helped me was to make little conversations with everyone. Not just women. That gets you comfortable talking to people generally. Then step that up to occasionally making little conversations with hot girls. “I like your __. Is that _?” etc. Its exhilarating and scary but after a few short, pleasant interactions you start becoming more comfortable with it. You’re not trying to pick them up at this point. Just point out thing, cute little chat, the end. All the successful guys…
/r/seduction29/06/22 12:56 AM
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Most basic thing you can do is just diet and work out. Get in shape or at least have a lower body fat %. If you do nothing else you’ll get good results just from that. If you’ve got boobs and ass too great but that stuff is usually genetic. Most guys aren’t going to have a hard line requirement for those things.
/r/seduction28/06/22 10:55 PM
1

That’s nothing. If there’s any backlash it’ll because you care too much what people think or she does. I’d neither of you give af then you’re golden.
/r/seduction28/06/22 12:16 AM
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On my dates the first kiss is almost always turns into a mini make out session. Half the time it happens right at the start of the date. You could even do that on yours. When you see her go straight for a hug. As you’re doing it kiss her on the check. There’s a very high chance she’ll turn her head into you expecting a mouth kiss, from there it’s on.
/r/seduction27/06/22 11:34 PM
2

She can have kids. Most guys her age might not think she can but if she found a great guy and made it abundantly clear she wanted them they could do it. I’ve got friends who are like late 30s popping out their sixth kid. She’s fine.
/r/seduction26/06/22 10:08 PM
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“No f that you coming on a date with me” Is what she wants You could also be like “oh damn is that your new sugar daddy (thinking emoji)” “does he need a pool boy” Light response, then in your mind she goes on the back burner. I never like cutting people off. If you’re light about things and act unbothered she can turn into an orbiter who will supply you with confidence boosting attention when she seeks validation in the future. These types make for good friends honestly.
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:24 PM
2

Women think that if you’re direct with them it means you’re intentionally disrespecting them. Even if she really wanted sex with you really bad if you say “let’s have sex” her thought will be “WHAT KIND OF A WOMAN DOES HE THINK I AM” Women also are not gaslit for reading into obvious signals the way men are. So the best way to escalate is through obvious signals. Anything that puts you alone with her overnight or near her bed is enough. Basically pretend it’s a cheesy porno movie and everything …
/r/seduction25/06/22 10:31 PM
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Self defeating negativity that doesn’t take accountability for the things you can control is incel trolling. Recognizing the factors that women actually go for and devising ways to be successful with what you’ve got is not incel trolling imo. “Women do x with tall handsome guys but have opposite expectations for men they aren’t attracted to” is simply an observation of one reality of dating. As long as that turns into a productive discussion about the factors you can control and doesn’t turn int…
/r/seduction25/06/22 04:53 PM
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You don’t have to be on the top of your game. Just do the best you can. Try to keep your emotions in check. If you approach it as, “I’m just going to have a good time, I’m not expecting anything to happen” then that helps a lot with the nerves. I tell myself that before every date I go on and it 100% works for me.
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:27 PM
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You can be very handsome and average in every other way you’ll do well enough. You can be very tall and average in every other way, you’ll do well. You can be jacked. Or “financially secure”. Or have a ton of game and dress stylishly. You can own a house and a newer full sized pickup, you’ll do well. You can be average everywhere but fit the social niche she wants (country guy with a lifted pickup for example) You do not need to score exceptionally well in every area. You only need one. That’s a…
/r/seduction25/06/22 12:07 PM
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My last one was a coworker. One before that I met on tinder, one before that a friend put in a good word for me with. A few of them have come from Facebook or Instagram, all friends of friends. Just gotta have a wide net cast and put a lot of positive energy out there.
/r/seduction25/06/22 11:52 AM
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I wish I had a secret but it’s a lot of things. Don’t sabotage. Show up. Realize you’re not in control, she is. Be patient ie don’t “block and delete” every time you don’t get a text back. Realize also most women who go for you are doing it because you’re blatantly their “type” somehow. If one like that finds you it’s hard to fuck it up unless you sabotage. I would say every single younger woman who ends up with an older guy probably had a preference for that from the start, he did not win her o…
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:33 AM
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I’m a guy, the same thing has happened to me many times. Girl leaves or starts to distance herself, I take it as a blow to my ego, in turn I start over valuing her, try to fix things, get hooked on the idea of her, stuck “forever” until I learn better. Process repeats a few times with different women over the years. I see the pattern. Eventually lean to take losses more efficiently.. problem solved without becoming avoidant
/r/seduction25/06/22 01:12 AM
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First of all I don’t consider myself successful at game because I don’t do all the random approaches. I do have a pretty keen understanding of how relationships develop and what to do as far as that goes. Most of the women I’ve dated since I was like 28 were 10 years or more younger. I’m 35 now and just got out of a relationship with a sweetheart 20 year old. The one before her was 24. Before that was 21, then 24, 18, 18 again, 25 (at that point I was 25). There’s been a number of hookups betwee…
/r/seduction24/06/22 09:56 PM
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Turn dating into a hobby, go out with multiple women at a time. Best way to solve that issue and it’ll make you more attractive to women across the board due to the decreased neediness.
/r/seduction24/06/22 02:45 PM
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I barely drink socially and can’t hold my thc for shit. Most of my hookups happen from orbiters getting frustrated and finally throwing it at me. Any time I’ve gone on a date date it turns into a relationship if I’m attracted and if not then by the end of the date I’m not feeling it at all and don’t want to.
/r/seduction24/06/22 03:02 AM
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To me seduction and pickup apply just as much to long term relationships as it does pulling a girl in the club. The more you know the better off you’ll be long term. What the angry feminists often do is deflect their problems and blame society while convincing themselves they don’t want or need a partner. Maybe they’ll find somebody great with that mentally or maybe they’ll sabotage every relationship they get in, but the lack of accountability prevents growth which is the opposite of what gets …
/r/seduction23/06/22 10:54 PM
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Usually when see something sexy on a girl I kinda like but may not have been focused on it can put me into overdrive and all my attention will go on her
/r/seduction23/06/22 09:42 PM
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I haven’t tried a lot of random approaches but in my dating life I have seen that it’s definitely worth a second attempt if the initial response isn’t enthusiastic and it’s usually worth attempting to close even if the interaction seemed not as smooth as you would have liked. Women don’t always know exactly what they want, they often just kind of stumble through these things and decide how they feel about it after the fact. That smooth chemistry has to appear though probably by the second date a…
/r/seduction23/06/22 06:14 PM
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If you have to all the answer is no. Trust yourself to make good decisions and stand by them
/r/seduction23/06/22 04:10 PM
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A man who wants to commit for good as you say is going to have a certain level of emotional dependency on you and he’ll seem very attracted but nervous early on especially at your age. Is that something you want and are attracted to? Or do early signs of that set off red flags? If you’re trying to convert one of the guys who only want to sleep with you into a long term boyfriend, there are some tricks you can use but it’s going to be uphill battle the whole way. The stuff you mentioned can defin…
/r/seduction22/06/22 10:26 PM
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Women want and expect you to push for sex. If you don’t it causes an ick. They expect to be pushing you back ie “making you wait.” If you’re ok waiting, then they aren’t pushing you back and they get an ick. Communicate you’re serious about her by trying to have sex with her, then just don’t get frustrated when she stops you. I had an ex tell me she wanted to wait 90 days. I told her I was fine waiting, but if in the heart of the moment things go there and she’s being receptive to me touching he…
/r/seduction22/06/22 01:52 AM
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Be occasionally forward with indicating what you want. Don’t give too much free non-romantic attention. There has to be romantic interactions offsetting that. 50/50 is ok. 75/25 is probably ok. 99/1 is not. Never be afraid to pull back your attention if you feel time is being wasted. I personally lean more towards collecting multiple orbiters that will eventually land rather than focusing all my effort into trying to force things to work with one particular girl though. So I can handle a 2 week …
/r/seduction19/06/22 05:20 PM
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I’ve seen solid 10s hook up with desperate friendzone guys just because they were the only ones available at the time I support this
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:32 PM
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I would say they were mostly 7s or 8s. I go for thin women with nice bodies. Face can be average. Only like 2 of the girls I had over in that whole time I would say were cute enough to date seriously which I did with both a short time after I got off house arrest I had nothing in common with either of them so the relationships felt irritating and forced Rereading what I wrote before I never mentioned I was dieting heavily at the time which most guys don’t do. So my facial features were chiseled.…
/r/seduction19/06/22 03:15 PM
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Tinder does that when you first start. It’ll throttle your exposure after a few days.
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:51 AM
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It’s easier to find women when you’re already in a relationship. That’s a positive trait they go for. Women who cheat are also looking for fewer attributes, just the ones their SO is lacking. So you might find it easier to get with a woman who’s in a relationship already if you have the one thing her guy doesn’t.
/r/seduction19/06/22 01:42 AM
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So what about when girls put guys on a pedestal? Should we be turned off by that? What if she was doing it first and then he matches her energy by doing it back? Still no self worth? Literally just curious. Because I think this effect still happens even in relationships
/r/seduction18/06/22 10:13 PM
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Disney. The reason you shouldn’t is because it’s actively a turnoff for 99.9% of women. Even a girl who was already obsessed with you and getting clingy will likely will do a complete 180 if you start matching that energy. Learning not to put women on a pedestal is just learning what women really want from a guy. You’re the man, you’ve got your life and she’s going to fit into it. That’s her expectation.
/r/seduction18/06/22 10:12 PM
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The apps are good for casting a wide net but generally you’ll get vastly more attractive women, more easily in person where there’s less competition and their brains aren’t in filtering mode from swiping left 50 times already
/r/seduction18/06/22 06:33 PM
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If we’re being accountable then she can consent as long as she’s not seeing double. Alcohol is a social lubricant, people frequently will drink and get a little buzz before sex or on dates. If we’re not being accountable than as soon as one drop has touched her lips she can claim deniability and therefore can no longer consent reliably.
/r/seduction18/06/22 03:35 PM
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At this point I would just give her what she wants and ask her out. She’s clearly going crazy because you’re refusing to do it. If she rejects you oh well, she’s earned it. Think of it as a gift.
/r/seduction18/06/22 03:25 AM
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I always try to self examine to see if I have the same tendency when I’m asking questions like this. Borderline unattractive women seem attractive when they’re extremely brash and arrogant or confident sexually. It’s like their clearly visible physical faults must not actually matter because they’re acting like they’re hot shit, it makes you think they must be. I’ll find my eyes glazing over their negative details when I’m effected by this. So I assume it’s a similar process for women
/r/seduction17/06/22 03:10 PM
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There was a thing going around a while ago where women were saying the same thing about men. The more I thought about it the more I realized it was an obvious projection
/r/seduction16/06/22 09:36 PM
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Put 80% of your effort into attracting, 20% into pursuing. Effort spent on attracting benefits you cumulatively over the long term so it’s not wasted.
/r/seduction15/06/22 03:55 PM
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See them as not being worth the effort. It’ll make you take your interactions with them less seriously which petty effectively contracts the pedestal tendency
/r/seduction15/06/22 03:07 PM
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Tell her how you feel as honestly as you can in two sentences or less. Let her get pushed away. Then you can walk away knowing you did everything you could. She on the other hand will beat herself up for sabotaging. After she’s had some time to process she likely will start coming after you. Could take a few weeks or a couple months. That doesn’t mean she’ll be ready to date, you could end up in the same revolving pattern with her. You really are always going to have a bad time though if you’re …
/r/seduction15/06/22 01:54 PM
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That’s not been my experience. Yeah they’re “over it” in that they aren’t having sad feelings during the time they’re hooking up with whoever but after that high comes down then they’re down. Often they refuse to face reality and process so they mentally cling for ever. I’ve had multiple exes try to get back together a decade later telling me they always thought we’d get married and they never got over it, meanwhile they were the ones to end things and they’ve had boyfriends and husbands since t…
/r/seduction15/06/22 01:50 PM
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Just be sweet and let her feel the things she’s feeling during the conversation. When a woman trusts you and bonds with you, you’ll be the only one she trusts enough to have sex with. When those horny feelings come later who do you think she’s going to run to? Those platonic vibes will become definitely not platonic. The only time I might worry about this is if she’s talking about her most recent ex. I try to listen but not add too much to the conversation about him. I’ve had the best luck with …
/r/seduction15/06/22 02:57 AM
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Thank you!
/r/seduction15/06/22 02:29 AM
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I’m not saying this girl in particular is going to be like that or that all women are. But what you’re describing is a real phenomena probably every guy on earth has noticed. My theory is it happens commonly because when a woman says what she wants, she’s actively in a state of wanting for it. You don’t put someone in a state of wanting for something by giving them an abundant amount of it. It’s like how you feel about oxygen. You don’t, unless it’s not there. So very often when you see things l…
/r/seduction15/06/22 02:07 AM
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Ok so the way it usually goes is we’ll have mutual friends. I add her. If her profile is private I wait until it’s accepted. I’ll drop a like or two. Wait a week. Maybe comment a story (not everything she posts. Just like a couple things here and there) Then she’s usually the one to inbox me first. I’ve had several girls including one I dated for a year use “um excuse me but do I kno u????” My response is usually like “No sorry I actually know your friend ______ and I just thought you were prett…
/r/seduction14/06/22 11:59 PM
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Are they giving up the booty though?
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:38 PM
12

Thank you for a real answer based on actual experience. I’m 35, I’ve smoked probably 50 times in my life and I got incredibly dizzy to the point I couldn’t function like 48 of those times. Sometimes I wonder what I’m missing out on
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:34 PM
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Dude I’m reading your profile and everything you post is like you’re trying to sell a book or something. And even your comments here seem self congratulatory. Good job on whatever successes you’ve been having
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:30 PM
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I meet plenty of women in real life. There’s nothing wrong with using dating apps to cast a wider net. Get over yourself
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:24 PM
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Yeah that’s why I’ve been noticing it. I feel like these girls are fishing for a drug connect. There’s probably super average guys out there cleaning up with this
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:20 PM
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I’ve never tried to date a girl long distance but the girlfriends I’ve had who started on Instagram or Facebook normally the conversation would progress over a number of days or weeks. Often I would let the conversation die out then post a good looking selfie or something interesting or comment worthy the next day. Absolutely do what feels right though because if you’re going to lose you want to lose following your instincts. But to me pushing hard online and trying to escalate is just going to …
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:19 PM
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I’ve never tried to ask out someone serving me although I’ve had a couple tell me they wanted me to years later when we did finally get together. Don’t believe Reddit when they say “leave women alone!!! They get paid to be nice to you!!!” You know what a signal is, she wants you to ask her out. Women are frustrated guys aren’t approaching anymore. It’ll make her month even if she has to reject you. My experience with rejection is it usually seems to plant a seed and the girl becomes way more fli…
/r/seduction14/06/22 03:12 AM
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Man it becomes a pattern when your 5th one in a row is doing that. That girl you’re talking about will end up with a butt ugly jobless dude fresh out of jail and you’ll be scratching your head trying to figure it out. My new philosophy is I’m aggressively trying to get a girl much hotter than me. The idea is she’ll think “oh this guy would NEVER cheat on me because he can’t do any better” and that thinking will create relationship stability. I know the signs on when to get out and I can handle a…
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:44 AM
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They don’t understand the market right now. Everything is way overpriced. Also. I’ve done a lot of dating in my life. Every different type and attractiveness level of girl. I can tell you, the very average to ugly ones can be extremely problematic. The hotter girls I’ve dated have all been head over heels enamored with me. I haven’t put my finger on why that is yet. Maybe the ugly girls actually get more attention because guys think they’re easier. Or maybe they have their guard up more. Or they…
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:15 AM
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I wouldn’t say there’s an after. You’re always learning through trial and error. But the simple answer is yes, you’ll see more opportunities, you’ll make fewer mistakes, you’ll learn the markets you’re most successful in. It does add up. Although in my experience I always feel like I have so much further to go. I rarely think of myself as being successful with women, even when I land a really cute girlfriend I’m just thinking it’s a fluke every time.
/r/seduction12/06/22 04:52 PM
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It’s funny you say about the glancing because I had to teach myself that was a strong signal after hearing so many women mention it online. And seeing other guys do this stare down thing in person and watching the girl turn giddy in response. To me now the lingering eye contact is as good as a direct invite in a lot of situations. But I used to completely ignore it.
/r/seduction12/06/22 03:07 AM
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Yeah but he could do literally the exact same thing on the next girl and hit a home run. He thinks he’s waiting for the perfect moment like you said, but actually she may have never given him any lingering moment to act on and she may have used little cues to shut him down constantly any time he got close. I look back on all my past experiences and it’s like, either I think I’m a sex god for being able to so easily woo a girl… or I feel like a loser because nothing is landing. Is my performance …
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:03 AM
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If you walk around acting like you just won the lottery… I’ve noticed this effect too. I’m not sure if it’s actually a subconscious status chasing or gold digging behavior or if they actually are attracted to the positive energy. “Why is he happy? He must have got something good..”
/r/seduction11/06/22 12:22 AM
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This is true also. There’s like 5 different categories a guy can be top 10% in and get similar results. 5 x 10 = 50% ie the average guy can qualify.
/r/seduction11/06/22 12:20 AM
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Any girl aiming for that top 10% objectively probably isn’t ready to date seriously unless she herself is also top 10% and is just looking for her equal. So, yeah set yourself up to get the ones who have a realistic mindset and want a relationship with someone who’s on their level. Best way to do that is to buy a house and full sized pickup. Grow a beard. You’ll be in there in no time. You can think of it this way too, if you had infinite choice you’d find a top .001% hottest girl with everythin…
/r/seduction11/06/22 12:18 AM
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You did perfect. If she wanted it you would have been in there.
/r/seduction10/06/22 05:41 AM
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I think what’s actually going on in that conversation is your friend is probably lying. She wanted the kiss and the sex from the start, made herself available, probably was the one to hint about going to the pier and wherever the sex happened. Now she’s playing out her fantasy of being swept off her feet and she can deny any accountability for it happening if anyone happens to think less of her for it. It’s problematic because it teaches men that when we don’t get the kiss it’s because WE failed…
/r/seduction09/06/22 11:44 PM
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This is a great idea
/r/seduction09/06/22 10:14 PM
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Women also trick guys into thinking that we’re the ones who are responsible for how things turn out when in reality the girl is in control the whole time. So don’t beat yourself up too much about not “moving things in a direction”. If she wanted them to go that way she most likely would have took them there and made you feel like you did it. Now if things went in that direction and you failed to make a move, that’s different. You fucked up. But you’ll probably get another chance.
/r/seduction09/06/22 12:03 AM
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The things that get discussed here aren’t what anyone wants dating to be like, it’s just reality. Believe me everyone in this has at one time or another been just as disgusted with it as you are before they finally came to terms with it all. Be thankful you don’t have to deal with those problems first hand. You’d have your own set of issues with men. I feel I could personally help strategize there as well because I’ve done a ton of introspection over the years and I know what would have been eff…
/r/seduction08/06/22 11:16 PM
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Ask when you don’t want the burden of just going for it because of mixed signals but also don’t want to be kicking yourself for not making a move. I’d rather get verbally rejected than have the unknown hanging over my head. Imo agreeing to a date practically gives consent for someone to try to kiss you unless it’s going horribly but even then some will still expect you to try. I’ve asked about that with several friends who are women in person and they always agree. I said “even if you don’t want…
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:25 PM
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When most women feel the spark they fight against it because it makes them feel out of control and vulnerable. There’s ways around that like if you tell her you only want to hookup or a fwb for example. That puts a limit on how invested she’s going to get in her mind which can help solve the vulnerability problem. You could also be WAY out of her league or score very well in her “type”. Women will override their runners instincts if they think they’ve got a once in a lifetime catch on their hand…
/r/seduction07/06/22 05:41 PM
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See the bigger picture. You may have ruined it for now but she’ll forget the ick in a couple weeks or months. In the meantime you’ll be trying again with someone else, which reduces your overall neediness. A lot of these girls you pushed away by being too sweet will come back and turn into orbiters. Etc. Just keep at it, I know it’s embarrassing blowing an opportunity but there will be more and truthfully you planted a seed that could bear fruit eventually.
/r/seduction07/06/22 12:37 AM
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Yup that’s a big fear of mine. I usually don’t ask verbal consent because to me if the body language is saying no, it’s a no even if they might give verbal permission. Either way I’m watching how they respond and if anything feels slightly off I pull back and apologize or check in. In my view also if you go on a date with someone you’re almost giving blanket permission for them to try to kiss you. I was talking to a friend a few weeks ago who was telling me about a guy she wasn’t interested in w…
/r/seduction06/06/22 10:35 PM
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A lot of women are turned off by baby steps. I used to do that as a teenager + early 20s and it worked out but in my 30s they seem to appreciate more decisive moves. Just my experience.
/r/seduction06/06/22 10:31 PM
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Ok so let’s say you’ve been getting mixed signals and the timing feels correct but you’re really not sure and you don’t feel comfortable just going for it because of some prior stop signals you may have received already. That’s when you ask. The purpose of it in my eyes is to relieve yourself from the burden of having to guess when things are highly dubious. You ask so you don’t have to make a move during mixed signals. I would rather get a no because I asked then get accused of being pushy by a…
/r/seduction06/06/22 10:30 PM
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Maybe she’s trying to subtly tell you she wants to role play. Also sounds like a flirt she wants you to escalate with.
/r/seduction06/06/22 05:03 PM
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First of all your feelings for her are elevated because she seems just out of reach. Recognize that. Secondly understand that any neediness being displayed will push her away 99 times out of 100 especially in a situation like this. Knowing those two things won’t change your feelings immediately but if you keep reminding yourself of those realities it’ll change your choices which will change your feelings. Hers will likely change too as yours do, there’s a good chance she’ll want to be exclusive …
/r/seduction06/06/22 03:29 PM
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She’s looking something up on her phone like which restaurant to go to: “Hmm let me see which ones are nearby” and you put your hand under hers which is holding her phone while you lean in close She has a bead bracelet: “Hey is that _____” (guessing the stone type). She’ll proceed to tell you exactly what it is and will hold her wrist out for you to inspect them or you can go in and look at them yourself if she seems open. You’re touching her wrist while doing this. She’ll also show you all her …
/r/seduction06/06/22 02:34 AM
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You aren’t seeing the whole picture. Yes it’s true regular guys can get super cute girls without knowing how anything works (ie game) but what do you think happens when one of those girls loses interest or cheats? Think those regular guys will be able to handle that? Will they be able to duplicate their prior success and get a new girl? During the relationships do you think these gameless guys are living a stress free life free from manipulation? Hell no. Trust me you don’t want to be them. Game…
/r/seduction06/06/22 02:02 AM
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All women will do this at some point even if they really like you. It could even just be a test to see if you’re going to freak out on them. Or if they feel like you moved a little too fast. It feels out your expectations. Or she has anxiety and doesn’t want to leave her bubble to go be vulnerable with a new person. Yet. Or she’s just not that interested, Also YET. Or you said something to escalate and things got real, now she has to think about the consequences of potentially moving forward. I …
/r/seduction03/06/22 11:52 PM
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My belief is “mystery” is just how women explain why it’s a turn on when they don’t know if a guy likes them. So then the answer is to flirt in the obvious non-obvious way. Very strong eye contact, normal friendly conversation. If she bids for your attention or asks for favors she could be trying to solve the mystery so don’t come running for her assuming your goal is just to keep her in a state of never being sure. “If he likes me, he’ll cancel his plans to help me with this thing” Watch out fo…
/r/seduction02/06/22 03:16 PM
2

Maybe shit tests are better thought of as crazy tests in some cases. A lot of guys experiencing any kind of perceived rejection even if it’s just from silence will go off the handle and cuss a girl out. Probably most women would learn to watch out for that in early stages and they’d rather have it happen while the guy is at a distance rather than in their bed That’s what makes sense to me anyways
/r/seduction01/06/22 12:57 AM
4

I agree for the most part but I do think it’s worth one little attempt to make a joke out of it or challenge the rejection. I met a girl on pof once who was super cute, solid 9. 10 years younger. As soon as we exchange numbers she sends me a topless pic. I send her one back that usually does well because my arms look good in it. Well she flatly says “sorry I don’t go for guys with hairy chests” which really surprised me because she had to expect that messaging someone older. I was like “oh you m…
/r/seduction31/05/22 10:07 PM
4

I probably could if I was willing to lower my standards that far. Assuming they were all beautiful, clean women free from std’s that would be fantastic if I were trying to stay single. I wouldn’t do that and expect to have a relationship
/r/seduction30/05/22 03:45 PM
9

I mean I’ve had enough partners in my life I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything. Personally it’s a turnoff if I see orbiters being entertained or any signs she’s addicted to male attention. The thought of being with a woman who was just with another guy a week ago is gross to me.
/r/seduction30/05/22 02:20 PM
22

I think a lot of them are and they just lie about their numbers. I had one friend who said she didn’t count them if she didn’t have an orgasm. There are some who will kind of present themselves to you with this unbreaking eye contact thing where they’re standing there with these little smiles and acting very agreeable. It’s like they’re trying to signal “I’ll say yes if you ask me :))))” My belief is these are the ones who have numbers in the hundreds. I’ve never confirmed that though.
/r/seduction30/05/22 02:05 PM
4

I think I’ve had 2 long term girlfriends start on Instagram and a few hookups. I’ve never had a girl I met in person ask for it. If anything I feel like not having Snapchat probably leaves way more on the table. I’ve never had a Snapchat for long, both times I tried to make one I immediately had awkward interactions with women trying to get their snap score up thinking they were trying to talk to me
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:02 AM
5

I think she’s making a joke along the lines of “they’ll let anybody in here huh!!!!!” Because she’s also referring to herself in that Kind of a dad joke. Except not delivered by a dad so her delivery was off due to lack of practice and you misinterpreted.
/r/seduction27/05/22 10:32 PM
4

Being thin will get you 90% of the way there. After that it’s just clothes makeup and hair pretty much
/r/seduction27/05/22 09:20 PM
5

When I get a verbal no I never attempt to escalate again no matter what. I feel like I’m leaving opportunities on the table but 1 I could catch a charge and 2 playing that game too much causes me a lot of distress, it’s just not worth it. I’d rather have a stress free life and only sleep with women who don’t have this particular massive red flag.
/r/seduction26/05/22 10:34 PM
14

If he works for it that decreases her attraction towards him which leads to said friendzoning. That paradox shows the need for a sub like this
/r/seduction26/05/22 06:37 PM
7

I’m 35, I’ve dated many much younger women including some coworkers. I NEVER pursue these relationships, they’re always the ones to do it. My feeling is it’s highly inappropriate for an older guy to attempt to initiate anything with a much younger woman unless she’s sending him incredibly obvious consistent signals she’s interested. Needless to say I’ve missed a lot of opportunities too because I felt the signals just weren’t good enough. A lot of women enjoy “flirting go for fun” and while I en…
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:01 PM
40

Hang around and give him way too much attention. Have lots of unbreaking eye contact. Make a couple overtly sexual innuendos. Suggest leaving the scene with him, even for an innocent reason. As long as you haven’t touched a drink he can legally read your obvious behavior and make a move.
/r/seduction24/05/22 06:41 PM
123

I can definitely support the first point. I dated a smoking hot girl once who was popular and well known in my area. After we broke up I felt like I was swimming in women trying to date me. To this day her close friends at the time still act like they have crushes on me. All less physically attractive than she was of course. I think they believe if they can get a guy she was with it makes them more like her, or as good as her.
/r/seduction24/05/22 04:22 PM
0

If you write too much on the apps as a man it can come off as low value and give your matches an ick. Most guys learn that after enough failures. Back when I was single I would be SUPER cautious with how much I wrote. I’d prefer her to lead the conversation at least until a solid rapport developed. Which is the best time to ask her out also Lots of threads on Reddit with women complaining about guys asking to meet too quickly. It’s because they don’t have rapport
/r/seduction23/05/22 09:24 PM
2

Did you have your wisdom teeth out by chance? Did your teeth come in straight? I’ve always had a good jaw line except when I’m chubby. The round face is always an indicator I need to start losing weight. I think your dental stuff plays a lot into it though, you said you’re already thin.
/r/seduction22/05/22 11:59 PM
8

The last part isn’t true in my experience. They almost always come back around weeks months or years later if you stop trying
/r/seduction21/05/22 05:12 PM
1

Most women don’t trust their emotions so they’re constantly second guessing themselves and trying to squash feelings when they’re vulnerable, etc. That’s where the instability comes from.
/r/seduction21/05/22 05:09 PM
5

I don’t think you could have a long healthy relationship with her because she’s showing signs of wanting what she can’t have and she’s trying to escalate with another guy while in a relationship. Those are personality traits, not things she’s doing special just for you even if she thinks otherwise. You could definitely have an incredible 2 month pretend relationship though if you can get her at a low cost ie not destroying friendships or investing too much mental anguish/focus. As others have sa…
/r/seduction21/05/22 04:17 PM
3

“I’m just not feeling the spark, I get more of a friend energy from you” the end
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:50 AM
5

First of all when she realizes you’re done and starts panicking that’s a massive green flag. A lot of women would be like “WELL FORGET HIM THEN!!!!” even if they were trying to push you away and got what they wanted. This means in the future you’ll have some mechanism to fix things if she ever gets really disrespectful or starts losing interest, anything like that. It’s a must have for a long term partner and it’s somewhat rare. I would give things a chance. Cut off all effort and fade out. If s…
/r/seduction21/05/22 01:41 AM
2

Hmm could be the opposite then if you’re sending too many texts coming off as clingy? Should be a 50/50 balance there. But usually you’d drive her away before the sex happens if that’s what’s going on. Or you could possibly be the one with the confirmation bias. She creates a little distance which triggers you to think she’s gone. If that’s the case, patience. Wait for her to initiate conversation and be receptive but cool. A lot of times I think they do that as kind of a crazy test to see if th…
/r/seduction19/05/22 02:29 PM
1

Honestly this sounds bad but the: “did I do something wrong? I’m sorry if I upset you..” thing that comes naturally can work if that’s the case. It hands her 100% of the power which is what she needs if she’s running because she thinks you’re going to ghost her. I personally don’t like doing that. I’d rather just ghost back and take the loss unless she comes back around on her own because I don’t want to set myself to be manipulated in the future by silent treatments. But I’ve had a higher succe…
/r/seduction19/05/22 02:06 PM
0

My experience is that the sooner you hook up the better if you’re looking for an exclusive relationship. If a girl is ready she’ll steer things there and if you don’t act when the time comes it triggers an ick. Consider they could be ghosting preemptively because they think they messed up by sleeping with you on the first date. They could be experiencing confirmation bias that you’re going to ghost them by over thinking your signals. It’s worth giving a little pursuit to try and assuage that jus…
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:49 PM
2

Cute face, thin waist, adores me, loves to fuck, clingy, affectionate, extremely faithful. The faithfulness is the only absolute must have at all times though. If we’re talking strictly physical I could design a perfect 10 archetype but that would be pointless because I’d trade any of the specific features for the above mentioned non-physical stuff.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:55 PM
57

You didn’t steer things towards sex, she was the one who steered it there and you’re just along for the ride. Sounds like you’re enjoying it though. Congrats
/r/seduction18/05/22 05:07 PM
12

Start thinking more about the long game and get more experience with how these interactions tend to play out weeks or months later. Women usually have a lot of internal hurdles to overcome before deciding to make themselves vulnerable with a guy. They perceive these hurdles as them being picky but in fact it’s just cold feet and being scared to let things advance. So she may leave you on read, or catch an ick because you double texted, whatever. That’s temporary. Give her a couple weeks to forge…
/r/seduction16/05/22 03:41 PM
3

Always say the obvious thing, go for the easy jokes, don’t try to hide the fact that you’re making it obvious you’re interested. Let your obvious implied interest be the flirting, while the content of your actual conversation seems innocent. Flirting feels uncomfortable because you think it’s unwanted, but that’s the point of flirting. You have deniability even if it’s thinly veiled. Practice “squaring up” slightly to women almost like the way you would a man you were trying to intimidate. Excep…
/r/seduction13/05/22 03:23 AM
2

Random women in public will frequently make and hold eye contact
/r/seduction08/05/22 05:13 PM
12

Exactly. I’ve had a decent number of hookups and they all started with some plausible deniability reason to come over. The times I’ve asked directly even while heavily flirting it’s shut things down.
/r/seduction07/05/22 11:48 AM
2

I’ve gone for a couple of traditionally ugly girls but they looked hot to me because I got to know them and formed a connection over time. Usually at some point I have to make a decision if I want to go for it or not. It helps if there’s some history of friendship there too. In fact that may be necessary
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:46 PM
15

The most exciting feeling thing in the world is falling in love. I personally seek out relationships. I love the first few months, I’m willing to cycle through them if they don’t work out after that. Theoretically I’ll meet my soulmate one day but I agree people who just go for hookups are missing out.
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:07 PM
9

That’s exactly it. Think of them as cats and you’ll never have a problem. Cats stay away from people who go after them, they love people who make them feel like they can come and go on their own terms.
/r/seduction23/04/22 07:13 PM
4

I prefer “ride the wave” which means enjoy her while you’ve got her. Just because you know it’s going to end one day doesn’t mean you can’t have a good time until then. If the wave happens to never end then you’ve got a wife, but that’s not something you can force or should expect.
/r/seduction23/04/22 07:10 PM
5

My girlfriend insists that it’s ok for men to hit on service workers. She said she was frustrated with me that I never did because that’s how we met. She worked at a gas station right next to my work and she said she flirted with me every day but I never took the hint. I had the same thought as most of Reddit, she was paid to be nice to me. Other friends who are women that work in service have also said they want men to ask them out while they’re working. I’ve always objected and they look at me…
/r/seduction22/04/22 10:08 AM
8

I’m usually equally flat with my response “hi (name)” Then she’ll say “how r u?” Then you say “Pretty good, just got done with ___. It was fun/annoying. You?” That will trigger her small talk ick if she was fishing for pickup lines and you can be on your way.
/r/seduction13/04/22 02:01 PM
1

Recheck your math
/r/seduction11/04/22 06:01 PM
5

For real. You could pay 100 people $100,000 a year to do that job and it would mean you’d have 355 new women per year instead of 365. Assuming you wanted to spend the same money.
/r/seduction11/04/22 01:27 PM
34

Warren buffet could pay $1,000,000 every time he has sex and be with a new girl every single night for the next 270 years. It’s not worth his time to go finding these women, it would be better for him to pay a team of people to go out and vett matches for him.
/r/seduction11/04/22 03:49 AM
5

I will never compete with another man. I’d either turn up the intensity and try to get with her like right now which is probably what she’s trying to manipulate you into doing anyways. Or totally shut off your effort and wait her to come all the way to you, which might not happen but it’s better than the alternative. Definitely don’t ask questions about her relationship with the other guy. It’s not your business and it makes him look like the better man.
/r/seduction10/04/22 04:13 AM
2

You can let her friend zone you first. Then you friend zone her back. If she falls in love with you after that oh well. You can’t ever capitalize because she loves a challenge.
/r/seduction09/04/22 02:22 AM
1

It’s up to op. I guarantee you this girl will probably go for it
/r/seduction09/04/22 01:41 AM
4

Just ride the wave and enjoy it while it lasts. Now that I think about it actually 2 weeks is enough time to make her your girlfriend if you’ve been spending that much time together. I would think about asking her if you want that. She’ll probably happily adapt to your work life if she wants to be serious with you
/r/seduction08/04/22 11:30 PM
1

Try not confirming the date. Wait for her to do it
/r/seduction08/04/22 09:37 PM
3

I have had feelings like that but after accounting for the grass is greener effect there’s rarely a reason to take that seriously.
/r/seduction08/04/22 03:03 PM
24

If it’s a tangible physical reason I can fix then yeah let me know. Otherwise I’d be cautious of misinformation. She can find you unattractive because you aren’t her type and still blame it on how you approached her or some other behavioral thing that’s actually not relevant.
/r/seduction04/04/22 03:27 PM
2

In my view I’m not the one with the preference. Date whoever is most attracted to you, anyone who has something to say about it doesn’t respect you.
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:38 PM
0

It’s gotta be genetics. I get a really nice jaw line around 145 lbs (I’m 5’8) and facial features too. But even as low as 125 which is the absolute lowest I’ve been in my adult life I still didn’t have abs. I had been working out and lifting all the way down too. Granted I don’t do much ab work besides maybe 3 sets on an ab machine but still.
/r/seduction27/03/22 06:31 AM
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I can’t relate to abs specifically but I can say having arms and shoulders and a nice chest + etc goes a LONG way, it’s like night and day. When you lose weight you get a sharp jawline and your facial features stand out more too. Before anyone complains they can’t get or keep a girl they should try getting jacked first. I bet even guys with ugly facial features could still do well enough if they’ve got a nice body. I’m currently what I consider way out of shape but I do still have a sweetie girl…
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:57 AM
1

Start calling her bro
/r/seduction25/03/22 06:58 PM
15

He’s your manager? What kind of job is this? Did you spend your whole life working to land this position? Or is this a menial job you don’t care about? If it’s the latter then seriously it doesn’t matter. Them being your manager would make it more exciting if anything. You’re both men, you’re free to make adult decisions without playing the victim to avoid accountability. If it’s the former then seriously consider how messy things can get if the relationship turns bad or if another employee has …
/r/seduction22/03/22 12:38 AM
1

I mean you’re texting her right? What is she saying she wants to do? It’s ok to ask her.
/r/seduction22/03/22 12:23 AM
9

What would you think if a woman said those things? “Aw what a sweetheart. I’m going to show her just how great she is” Too bad it doesn’t work that way for us.
/r/seduction22/03/22 12:05 AM
1

I would er on the side of cumming early and then being able to go again rather than risk first time jitters or something. Hold it in for now, fuck her good and cum 3 times before the night is done. Remember most women’s experience with guys is they’re 1 and done. If you can do more than that it’ll blow her mind and set you apart.
/r/seduction21/03/22 11:59 PM
2

I have a car and a motorcycle that I love taking on all day trips. 30 miles might as well be down the street. The limit for me would probably be 2 hours. 1 hour would be just perfect especially if she lived someplace pretty. As far as setting up dates goes, usually it’s best if she comes to me first. I think it sends major desperation vibes if you’re willing to travel an hour to go see her too early into things. This is not my opinion, that’s just what I’ve observed. After sleeping together once…
/r/seduction21/03/22 11:25 PM
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Sure. You’re not prioritizing good partner traits, she’s likely trying to fill a temporary void in her life. Maybe you remind her of an ex or maybe all other guys give up when they see her red flags so you’re just the first one to make it through. After 1.5 months you’ll both have gotten what you need from each other in the short term.
/r/seduction21/03/22 04:02 PM
63

If you go exclusively for the hottest women you can possibly get then you’re going to have a lot of amazing 1.5 month long relationships.
/r/seduction21/03/22 02:15 PM
2

Sounds like her boyfriend is following her. Way more common then you would think. I know you’re not going to totally leave it alone but I can say this, don’t pursue her and don’t get mixed up in it with him. If she comes to you that’s one thing.
/r/seduction19/03/22 08:12 PM
2

There’s a reason for that. If you have everything in common, want the same things, and are both mutually excited by each other but you are so lacking in game that you don’t know how to avoid making simple mistakes that are often talked about here then there’s a good chance you’re going straight to the best friend zone. In fact any time you see a girl say a guy was so great and perfect there was “just no romantic spark” that’s exactly what’s happened. You need to know a little bit about what goes…
/r/seduction19/03/22 03:06 AM
3

Yes and no. Yes because the majority of women claim it’s a preference and most use it as their one and only qualification for filtering matches from dating apps. I believe many women use their partners height as a way to compete with other women, whoever has the tallest boyfriend wins. No because even though I’m 5 foot 7 I’ve had WAY more good looking girlfriends and hookups than any of my friends. I do feel I’d have even better luck if I were taller but when I stop and look at it objectively I …
/r/seduction18/03/22 10:38 PM
16

Every single one of them wants it, none of them will admit it to themselves or you. They just need thinly veiled deniability so they can excuse it to themselves. Give them that deniability on a silver platter.
/r/seduction16/03/22 01:28 AM
3

I feel like if you just casually dropped that you were a med student in front of a 21-25 year old who’s trying to “marry well” she’d swoon and be all over you if she found you the least bit attractive
/r/seduction13/03/22 09:00 PM
2

I say don’t. First dates are really for her to feel out whether you’re safe and normal. So be safe, maybe touch her arm once during then kiss her at the end of the date. She’ll turn into a freak for you on date 2 if she’s comfortable. Don’t assume you did anything wrong. She just didn’t like you, most likely because you lacked a certain feature she’s looking for and she probably knew that before agreeing to go out with you. That’s on her end not yours.
/r/seduction13/03/22 02:17 AM
2

Hmm then I don’t know. You may have just got unlucky.
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:43 AM
4

I always worry that’s going to happen to me on the first time with a new partner but in the moment it almost never does. There’s one girl I hooked up with twice 10 years apart and both times I couldn’t get it up with her. The main contributing factor with her was there was no making out, no foreplay, she didn’t touch my dick at all. She just wanted me to whip it out and fuck her right there. I wanted to. But my body just wouldn’t cooperate. Another time I can remember it happening I had just got…
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:31 AM
0

Then why are you playing games with them. ‘Just a friend’ doesn’t need to be in quotes
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:19 AM
1

The most effective way to get over someone is to start seeing someone else. People object to it but that’s reality. One exciting first date that ends with a kiss.. you won’t be thinking about the old girl any more.
/r/seduction11/03/22 12:35 AM
-1

If they’re both the male attention loving, over stimulated, on anti depression meds because they can’t live with their choices type then this sounds fine. I would love to hear the results.
/r/seduction10/03/22 08:15 PM
0

Imagine your girlfriend gives her number to a guy at a bar and then wants to meet him for a date he invited her on. The only way she can rationalize doing this is to bring you, her boyfriend on the date. She’s not doing anything wrong if her boyfriend is there.. right?
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:52 AM
3

Because a certain percentage of guys are socially awkward stalkers and you never know who they are. Women are always analyzing the men they encounter to figure this out. If you show up with another woman, especially an attractive woman, it means she’s already done the work and there’s no crazy red flags. If you show up with a woman and a child the effect is even more obvious. It communicates very loudly that you’re well adjusted and not dangerous to talk to.
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:29 AM
1

Does she live with a roommate? She might not want them to know she’s staying out all night.
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:26 AM
11

Every week or two if I’m sexually active. Maybe once a month if I’m not. The fat pad I use trimmers with a low guard. The goods themselves and gooche I use a facial razor.
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:01 AM
2

It could be that she’s not being enough of a challenge. If you require someone be hard to get in order to feel attraction and excitement then you’re going to have a lot of very toxic relationships. It’s worth working on this now while you’re young.
/r/seduction08/03/22 09:34 PM
1

100% exactly. That’s a great mix right there, almost exactly how my posts are balanced out
/r/seduction08/03/22 06:02 PM
4

I feel like rules 1 and 2 would apply. If you’re ugly she’ll find it creepy but if you’re good looking she’ll be happy you found her
/r/seduction08/03/22 12:58 PM
2

No Instagram is another social network. You’re going to build it like you would your Facebook profile. Anything you’re out doing that you think is interesting enough to share you can post. I only post like once every 1 to 3 months or so. Over time things build up. Right now mine has 300ish images posted, it’s a good mix of selfies, sports, hobbies, friends, family, random things I’m interested in, etc. That’s accumulated over years. The girls I’ve dated from Instagram have all been real life fri…
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:47 AM
9

They always messaged first but I would like the first pictures. I’ve twice gotten the message “excuse me.. do I know you??” After sending some likes. Both times I said “No sorry I know your friend _____ and I thought you were pretty honestly. Wasn’t trying to be weird” They respond back with “oh haha you’re fine yeah lol she’s a trip” / etc and conversation goes from there
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:41 AM
10

I had several relationships start with a like and a dm on Instagram. It’s Facebook lite imo.
/r/seduction08/03/22 04:27 AM
1

No because she’s not being judged for what kind of woman she lands. That judgement / competition only exists for the male resource.
/r/seduction07/03/22 03:42 AM
-2

Because most women are competitive with each other about men. If they settle for a lesser guy than what their competitors get they feel like a failure. That competition doesn’t exist when it’s two women together. So they can be less picky
/r/seduction07/03/22 03:36 AM
1

If you had simply resigned yourself to never take the bait and give her a second chance she would have fallen in love with you.
/r/seduction04/03/22 03:07 AM
3

I think you’d be better off complimenting something she’s wearing. Older women are used to being invisible to most younger guys in public. If you hone in on her and give her any kind of direct compliment with your full attention that should be pretty powerful.
/r/seduction01/03/22 11:38 PM
1

My position is men don’t actually miss signals. We’ve just been trained to ignore our reads because women insist on building deniability into every interaction they have with a man.
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:30 AM
9

Do you have a nice house or a new truck + etc? I’ve noticed women in their mid 30s seem to be more goal oriented min-maxers when it comes to committed relationships, but may be the opposite when it comes to hookups.
/r/seduction28/02/22 03:10 PM
7

Daily life. Coworkers, friends of friends, etc. When I had Facebook I met a few that way. I’ve had 2 girlfriends who I met on Instagram. A bunch from dating sites over the years. They always initiate conversation if it’s over social media. If it’s someone in person I normally don’t act on signals until they’re basically “wearing a sign on their forehead” as my current girlfriend put it I don’t feel like I would have success in clubs because I’m somewhat introverted. I’ve never done a cold approa…
/r/seduction28/02/22 02:22 PM
7

I think that’s exactly it. Guys in that age group are extremely emotional and often very controlling as a result. Not to mention they talk about stupid shit which isn’t going to be appealing to a girl who’s thinking about having a family and a home someday.
/r/seduction28/02/22 01:05 PM
85

I’m 35, I’ve had so many women 20-25 basically throwing it me. I never had any intent to go after women much younger than me, it’s just the reality that they’re what is the most interested. It really makes me wonder why there’s such a stigma about guys going for younger women when clearly the men are not the ones with the age gap preference. I like women my own age, I guess they’re more interested in men 50+ lol
/r/seduction28/02/22 04:47 AM
41

Literally just give him attention and make yourself available. Guys know what that means unless you intentionally muddy the waters to maintain deniability. Ie, don’t send mixed signals.
/r/seduction28/02/22 01:45 AM
1

The video game aspect of it is just a result of the bigger dating experience women tend to have with men in general. Say she wants a nice guy. She’s experienced a lot of guys who pretend to be nice for a while but end up not being nice in the end. Lets also say you legitimately are exactly the kind of nice guy she’s really truly looking for. There should be no problems right? Well she’s got her guard up, she’s looking for red flags, and you’re inexperienced. So you’re inadvertently sending those…
/r/seduction25/02/22 06:23 PM
1

I love going down, I’ve never had anyone respond negatively to it. The more you get her off the smoother the relationship will go. I think the cucky effect happens if you’re taking her out too much or giving her a lot of attention and not having any kind sex with her. That can crush a girls interest for sure.
/r/seduction25/02/22 02:36 AM
-1

No just wait. This sounds like normal courtship stuff. Let her set the pace, you keep doing what you’re doing.
/r/seduction18/02/22 04:17 PM
4

I don’t play this game anymore but that’s how you start, with a rotation of whatever you can get. You occasionally add on a more attractive girl until eventually you land a girlfriend you actually want to be with and you stop talking to the rest. She’ll probably be right at your level. Having the rotation gives you practice and it makes you come off less clingy, which is why it works. I told my friend that like 15 years ago when he asked me how I did it (at the time) because he wasn’t having suc…
/r/seduction17/02/22 03:23 AM
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I had a girlfriend like this, I stayed with her for a full year thinking she just needed to get comfortable but it never got better. I broke up with her thinking she wasn’t attracted to me and that she resented me. She then spent the next several months trying to get back together and her whole family texted me cussing me out pretty much. I was close to her mom, I told her she wouldn’t even let me hold her at night and we’d have sex once a month if that. Her mom understood, says she’s always bee…
/r/seduction16/02/22 02:02 PM
1

Dude this. I’m a big fan of going for the kiss quickly. Literally as soon as you feel like she would be receptive to go for it, don’t worry if the time or place is appropriate. I’ve never been curved once in my entire life.
/r/seduction15/02/22 06:54 PM
8

It’s the least risky way to initiate physical contact without getting rejected. So it means 3 things: She likes you, she’s afraid you’ll reject her, she wants you badly enough to resort to a tactic like this to solve that problem. I’ve never tried this but it would be ballsey. Say “you don’t have to hit. We can hold hands.” And then hold your hand out for her to take.
/r/seduction15/02/22 12:44 AM
27

What people really need to do is learn how to not take things like this personally. If you stay cool, say “sure, no problem” then they ghost you. So what? They’ll remember you as being level headed and low pressure. Maybe a year later you’ll get a hookup or a fwb out of it. I wouldn’t try to date seriously someone who’s done this, but the connection isn’t totally useless and it’s not worth burning your bridge over imo. You put out enough good energy you’ll collect friends, references, hookups, e…
/r/seduction14/02/22 08:42 PM
2

A lot of women are never single. They jump from one guy to the next with a little overlap in between. If you’re unwilling to sleep with a girl who has a boyfriend then all of those women are off limits to you. A lot of women aren’t attracted to the guys they get in relationships with and they don’t want to be in relationships with the guys they’re attracted to. If she’s that type of woman then she’ll always have 2 guys at any given time. You don’t want to be the boyfriend in that situation. Wome…
/r/seduction13/02/22 02:53 PM
1

Like some of her selfies. She will see it and know exactly what it means. If she wants you in her DMs she’ll like a few of yours back. If she wants to date you she’ll slide into your DMs with some innocent sounding “excuse me do I know you?” or an explanation for something you liked that you didn’t ask for. I don’t think guys need to be pressuring themselves to make moves without clear signals. There has to be a balance of power, she has to feel like she’s taking some rejection risk. Otherwise y…
/r/seduction13/02/22 12:11 AM
3

If they’re both sweethearts who are always available to you, they aren’t trying to make you jealous with other guys, and they aren’t playing hard to get then you’ve got a hard decision to make. If only 1 is like what I described then you keep her and get rid of the other one. If neither are like this then keep doing what you want until one starts to act that way. Then you have the conversation with her. Normally by a month in with a girl she very clearly will want a relationship with you, you wo…
/r/seduction11/02/22 06:09 PM
3

Girls who can’t flirt try to be coy that’s all they know how to do. Instead of being creative she’s just putting you on the spot over and over. I’m pretty sure she’s 100% interested but this sounds annoying. I’d play along “how do I do that?” See what she says
/r/seduction11/02/22 02:41 AM
1

I’m saying guys are blamed when they’re used by women for all the things I mentioned, it’s a two way street and I believe OP is subtly making that point as well. Personally I feel it shows low integrity.
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:50 AM
5

Agreed but I mean at least he didn’t lead her on for months or years using her for favors, emotional support, and as an ego boost when another woman he actually liked wasn’t texting him back. She shouldn’t be giving favors ie blowjobs expecting anything in return anyways. That’s just scummy and gross. Therefore her fault, blame her. OP can keep having his cake and eating it too (or not eating it)
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:43 PM
2

Ok I see what you’re saying. A little playful is good but seriously the first time I detect a lack of enthusiasm I’m stepping back and if it happens more than once I’ll usually write off the whole thing. I’ve had women clearly send disinterested / uncomfortable signals only to start pursuing me the next day or something after I took the hint. I never take the bait and go after them again though, in my mind if she says no it’s because deep down she really doesn’t want to. I don’t want to put myse…
/r/seduction09/02/22 04:13 PM
1

If you were man trying to hook up with a woman: I would say to simply try to get her someplace. Invite her back to your place, or upstairs, or anywhere to be alone. She knows what it means, she’s thinking about what’s going to happen. You can be totally innocent about it and she will still assume. Your escalation is the act of inviting her to be alone with you, that’s all you have to do. Her signals will become more obvious and you can trust your instincts after that. As a woman though…. That ad…
/r/seduction09/02/22 03:46 PM
7

No offense because I know that’s common advice but I don’t agree with this at all. Only the most immature or the most experienced players will play that game. A healthy guy usually will take a no signal as a no and move on.
/r/seduction09/02/22 03:42 PM
22

This was on how I met your mother. Some problems: She’s unlikely to lose that much weight. If she does it’s unlikely she’ll keep it off. If she does lose it all and maintain the loss she’ll want to explore her new options and won’t be interested in the same people she was before.
/r/seduction06/02/22 03:20 AM
3

Have you been intimate with her at all yet? It’s normal for things to die down after an exciting milestone is reached. First dates included. It’s absolutely not a red flag of anything or a sign that things are going bad. What I usually do when I’m uncertain and conversation seems to be slowing is I plan a date. You said you’ve got loose plans already, maybe try making them solid? Ask her on a dinner date to a nice restaurant. Use the word DATE. If she demonstrates she’s clearly playing games or …
/r/seduction03/02/22 03:52 AM
2

You just have to awkwardly go for it sometimes. If you get a bad result it’s not because you did the wrong thing, it’s because deep down she’s either not interested or not ready despite what signals she’s sending. When she’s emotionally ready and she likes you it’ll go over well and it will feel exciting and natural.
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:55 PM
47

All good advice but you underestimate how many men lack basic hygiene.
/r/seduction01/02/22 04:51 AM
4

Don’t put any effort into texting. Texting is an attention sink and it can be stressful responding to people you don’t have any attachment for. Even when I genuinely like and care for a girl I still really don’t like texting, I only do it for them. So from this girl’s side of things if she’s a similar way then don’t expect miles of text messages. Keep it short and light, show her you aren’t bothered by the time between messages, and set up actual dates which you’re doing. Once she gets attached …
/r/seduction30/01/22 03:29 PM
7

A lot of women who flirt with you while you have a girlfriend are doing it because of a sick sense of competition where they want to prove they can take you away from her if they wanted. Just shows how much of a scarce and valuable resource these women consider men to be and how competitive they are with each other over it. Don’t let it go to your head.
/r/seduction30/01/22 06:41 AM
4

You’re not far behind, you just think you are because everyone else your age is trying so hard to look grown up and tick boxes. I like to say your 20s are about destroying the ego. All the childish ideas you had about how you’re supposed to be or how your life should turn out get challenged and eliminated. It’s a painful process. Your 30s are about building and obtaining success. You’re not behind trust me.
/r/seduction29/01/22 07:33 PM
1

Literally it’s trial and error. When a girl goes cold on me for no apparent reason I think about what I did, I try something different with the next girl. Over many years you eventually figure out what really matters to women and how you should invest your attention. I think one mistake guys make is not realizing who they choose to pursue is just as important as how they pursue. Trust me when I say this you do NOT want a girl who needs you to be on your A-game in order to keep her attention. If …
/r/seduction28/01/22 07:06 PM
6

I see other men do this and I think it must be the biggest sign of weakness and a turnoff for whoever they’re doing it to. I asked my girlfriend about it and she says she doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with it. I don’t know if she’s saying that because she wants me to hover more or if it’s because she genuinely enjoys the attention or doesn’t recognize when it’s happening. Either way thank you for posting this because it confirms my own feelings on it.
/r/seduction26/01/22 08:56 PM
2

My current girlfriend did this before we started dating. Randomly during conversation she held up her fingers and said “stop me when I’m at your dick size” and started moving her hands together. It worked with the conversation and she did it playfully but I still knew exactly what she was doing. She’s trying to figure it out before she continues pursuing things. So I stopped her a little generously and resigned myself to never escalate with her because I’m pretty much exactly average and my beli…
/r/seduction26/01/22 07:55 PM
19

I figured this out when I was in high school before Internet forums and smart phones existed. I remember saying it to my mother and sister on the way to school once thinking they would understand and agree but I was shocked they didn’t. Women really have no idea that what they say they want is usually the opposite of what they actually go for. I will say this though, not all women are strongly affected by this tendency. My current girlfriend says what she wants and she actually responds favorabl…
/r/seduction18/01/22 07:14 PM
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These are the ones you experiment with. Ever wondered what would happen if you straight up ignored a girl who was trying to get your attention? Test it with her.
/r/seduction16/01/22 12:35 AM
4

I would think so! I asked her if she wanted me to watch her, she responded immediately after that saying she took a personal day and that we should all spend the day together. I don’t know why I hesitated about this lol
/r/seduction11/01/22 11:32 PM
2

That’s common. I think about half the women I get into a flirtation ship with will start trying to make me jealous talking about other guys or letting me see them text other dudes, etc. For me, it’s the biggest possible red flag and I always end pursuit immediately when I see it. As a result I got a girlfriend who does NOT have this behavior. I think it’s a good sign she fessed up but at this point I would have already been gone. She does sound like a sweetheart though for breaking down and tell…
/r/seduction08/01/22 10:59 PM
1

It depends on what kind and how much you’re wearing. My girlfriend loves my smell and she comments on it frequently. She gets much closer to me than other people though, I don’t spray that much.
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:48 PM
11

Assuming she had interest: What friendzones you isn’t the talking about yourself too much. It’s that you didn’t follow the undertones of the conversation and escalate. She wanted sex or a make out session. She wanted you to ask her on a date, or ask for her number. Instead, you did something else. You needed to act on what was obvious but something held you back. There’s ways out of this but unless you’re in a situation where she’s actively leading you on and using you, you won’t need them. If s…
/r/seduction05/01/22 04:43 AM
4

I am the “attentive sweet boyfriend” type guy in relationships and I can say from experience women LOVE it. The times I’ve been broken up with the other person was visibly a wreck about it. They get addicted to the way you treat them when you’re like that. Other issues come up. For me in the past it was always money. I heard stories about my parents struggling together when they were younger and working their way up, I always expected that would happen for me but it doesn’t quite work that way. …
/r/seduction01/01/22 12:22 AM
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If I was the boyfriend the only issue I would have taken with this would be if she took the guys number and tried to justifying talking to him as friends moving forward. That would be a ginormous red flag. The interaction itself was harmless, depends entirely on what she does with it.
/r/seduction31/12/21 05:29 PM
23

You’re sailing in uncharted waters, only God can help you
/r/seduction30/12/21 08:12 PM
5

Most girls will make it highly obvious they like you before you make that move unless it’s just a random encounter with a complete stranger which isn’t the case here from what OP says
/r/seduction30/12/21 06:37 PM
6

My opinion on it is it’s just game theory. If you look at all of a persons prerogatives for dating and the actual environment they’re dating in then these behaviors seem natural. Just like in the prisoner’s dilemma it’s always most beneficial to the individual to defect (play hard to get at the other’s expense) even if it’s better for the relationship and both people’s long term happiness to not do that.
/r/seduction30/12/21 06:31 PM
1

When online dating first came out people considered it creepy and weird. If a stranger on the Internet wanted to meet you in person it was a red flag. I guess I had this “abundance mentality” back then but it was more due to an overinflated ego. I still get the same number of women now I just no longer hinge my self confidence on it.
/r/seduction30/12/21 04:00 PM
1

I’ve heard it can be but for as many guys out there who drink a case of beer every night you’d think it would be a desirable trait if he didn’t
/r/seduction29/12/21 02:35 PM
1

All of them. But it’s not what you think, if a girl meets an average / passable guy with above average income she fantasies about having a family with him. It’s also not as important as being physically attractive.
/r/seduction29/12/21 02:31 PM
1

Yeah. Be brave and tell her how you really feel. The bravery is rare and that can be exciting for women. Even if it’s not exciting, you might be the first guy to tell her you like her without playing games in years. That’s a seed that can grow.
/r/seduction29/12/21 04:44 AM
3

Learn to view your attention as a gift. It has to be earned, or reserved for someone special. No self respecting guy is going to go around giving it away for free to any girl who asks for it. If you want to look, look. But don’t give any likes and don’t follow. That should be a matter of pride on your part.
/r/seduction29/12/21 04:37 AM
6

Every time I’ve thought “fuck it, I’m not going / responding” I thought it would result in the girl not wanting to talk to me anymore but amazingly the exact opposite usually happens. There are also times where I really DON’T want to respond or go out because I’m afraid I’m being too available but then I think, “Fuck it, just say the thing I want to say”. And that usually goes really well too. Trust your instincts. It’s ok to mix it up a bit. If you’re always available it’s probably ok to not to…
/r/seduction29/12/21 03:01 AM
2

I don’t think that’s necessary. If you’re doing something that works keep doing it. Use your daytime hours to get rich.
/r/seduction28/12/21 05:11 AM
2

I would acknowledge it and try to display as much bravery as possible by powering through and asking her out like she was any other hot girl I thought was out of my league. Hopefully she reads the brazen forward-ness as charming or refreshing, and then it’s just a matter of keeping the momentum. Imagine if you were famous and had been for long enough to come back down to earth. How would you want to be approached by a regular person who wanted a date with you?
/r/seduction27/12/21 01:59 AM
0

Nope. Expect probably half to never text you again. Risking that loss is where you get your power. In my personal experience it’s like 1 out of 5 that will actually give up, the rest will start coming after you harder. But I expect every one of them to go away for ever. They just don’t. Also only do that with women who are wasting your time.. the ones who genuinely like you and aren’t playing games you’ll feel less anxiety with. No need to screw up a good thing for no reason.
/r/seduction24/12/21 10:11 PM
0

They’re all like that. You just have to listen to your instincts. You know how when a girl texts you sometimes you get anxiety thinking of a good response? Just don’t respond if you feel that. Doesn’t matter if she did anything to warrant being left on read. You feel the anxiety, take the easy way out and just drop the conversation right there. The first time you do this it feels crazy and self destructive but when you see the results you’ll realize some things about women.
/r/seduction24/12/21 10:07 PM
2

She keeps escalating, gets more desperate, finds excuses to come see him at work and go to his house, etc If you do this with women who waste your time they’ll often orbit you for a while which if nothing else can boost your self esteem. Makes you feel like you have options even though you know they’re just desperate to confirm you still like them.
/r/seduction24/12/21 09:46 PM
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Women on social media say not to approach, but every single woman I’ve talked to in person says they expect and want guys to approach. I have female friends who’ve worked in restaurants and gas stations tell me about guys who asked them out and how they perceived those interactions. They are not against it, they see it as normal. They go out with men who approach them that way. And, they think less of guys who are clearly interested but don’t ask them out even when they’re not interested in thos…
/r/seduction18/12/21 06:08 AM
2

This is really good advice, I’m glad that worked out for you. I’m going to try this next time I’m in a similar situation.
/r/seduction17/12/21 07:17 PM
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All men are unsuccessful with women. A man only briefly convinces himself that he’s successful when he finally has a success, which is usually due to luck. Then those men come on Reddit and tell other men how to be a success like they are. But they’re just one dry spell away from inceldom again.
/r/seduction15/12/21 02:06 AM
1

You kiss her, then sex usually happens.
/r/seduction13/12/21 12:34 PM
2

Do nothing and just wait. When a girl goes cold for any perceived red flag she’ll often work her way back if you don’t make any attempt to get her attention again.
/r/seduction12/12/21 04:03 PM
13

She wants you to pursue her again. Do what you want with it. I personally am very good at getting women who go cold to warm back up again but in my experience you can’t capitalize on it. Mostly what she’s thinking is: “wait… why hasn’t he texted? Did he really even like me or did I read that wrong??” She HAS to know. What do you think will happen when she finds out? Good luck whatever you choose to do. But here’s a radical concept for you: it’s ok to remain a mystery forever. She won’t lose inte…
/r/seduction09/12/21 12:33 AM
0

Why would anyone want to make a new friendship with a random stranger? Adults have goals, families, and jobs that consume their attention. They’re not going to want to add a new person that’s going to require 50% of their available time if they gain nothing tangible from that relationship. What you’re trying to do is impossible. Stick to dating and make friends through connections at work.
/r/seduction07/12/21 05:42 PM
0

Things already rarely happen between friends. I can’t think of an instance where I’ve seen a guy and girl best friend actually start dating, even though they visibly have feelings for each other. There’s value to be had there but trying to capitalize and escalate things kills it.
/r/seduction07/12/21 03:43 PM
1

The rule with friends is to just let them come to you. Don’t read into signals, don’t make moves, especially don’t “test the waters”. That’s the worst thing you could do. Just sit back and enjoy her flirtatious energy. If she breaks down and confesses her feelings towards you then go for it.
/r/seduction07/12/21 12:46 PM
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Just kiss her. Back when I was a teenager and in my early 20’s the very MOMENT I became sure a girl liked me I went in for a kiss. Didn’t matter where we were or what we were doing. I had a lot of success with women doing that. The last couple years I’ve been affected by the whole “man making the first move without verbal consent and then checking in 6 times is rape” movement so I’ve stopped doing that, and I’ve had a lot less success as a result. That seems to be fading away now, I rarely see c…
/r/seduction07/12/21 02:35 AM
2

I assume once I buy a house a wonderful woman will magically land in my lap ready to start a family. I wouldn’t be comfortable trying to do that until then. Also I don’t call my own wants and needs “pressure from society”. I can recognize that I want a family without blaming it on the media.
/r/seduction06/12/21 10:22 PM
4

Flirting is expressing sexual interest in a way that allows you deniability.
/r/seduction05/12/21 03:06 PM
8

An upset girl who wants you to text her WANTS YOU TO TEXT HER. Get it? That “want” is a necessary component of her attraction. Satisfy it and the want goes away.
/r/seduction02/12/21 01:06 AM
10

Even unattractive women with no options have this tendency. They aren’t reading into anything with your eagerness and deciding it’s a red flag either. It happens because if someone’s eager to be with you and making themselves available, it feels like you’ve already got them and it makes you think you can probably do better. No need to explain why that creates an infinitely repeating cycle of bad relationships. You just have to hold out for someone who’s matured past that, or thinks you’re a rare…
/r/seduction27/11/21 09:48 PM
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This is just a power exchange. If he knows he’s got her but she doesn’t know where she stands with him, he’s a bad boy. If she knows she’s got him, but HE doesn’t know where he stands then he’s a nice guy. The same guy can change from one to the other and back again in the eyes of a woman just through those factors changing. Literally that’s the only difference. The bad boy happens to open a motorcycle because it’s attractive and he’s likely to have something like that going for him, but the nic…
/r/seduction27/11/21 04:21 AM
2

Sometimes women have cheesy porno-style expectations for their interactions with men. “I’m here to fix your plumbing..” “oh yeah? Why don’t you come into the bedroom and I’ll show you where to lay the pipe” If you don’t follow her expected script it can make her think somethings wrong with you. “He insisted on my number, that showed a lot of BALLS what a man! So I gave it to him. And then he didn’t even ask to fuck me that night? Guess I read that one wrong.. what a loser.” Obviously you did not…
/r/seduction18/11/21 02:49 PM
3

He could buy them both gifts. If one of them immediately becomes hard to get, and the other becomes even easier to get as a result then he knows which one to choose.
/r/seduction17/11/21 09:06 PM
9

Trust me, don’t “pick one” until you get to the attachment stage and you’re seeing each other every day. You’re forgetting that these girls are attracted to the energy you put off, that energy will change as soon as you make a decision and give up your backup option.
/r/seduction17/11/21 06:48 PM
2

They’re lacking accountability. A hot/cold girl will always say you should have done the opposite of whatever you did. It’s ok to leave her wondering what might have been rather than play her game and lose her respect. You don’t have to chase every opportunity.
/r/seduction16/11/21 04:31 PM
1

There’s almost no chance you’ll be going on the date that far away if you don’t get a rapport going before then. Generally it’s advised not to but in this instance I think you should go with your gut and just talk to her
/r/seduction02/11/21 06:04 PM
2

Who decides if a girl likes you? Is it her? Or is it you? If it’s you then that implies women don’t have agency over their partner selection. Ie, your vibe SHOULDN’T matter that much. If it’s make or break in all cases then her preferences are irrelevant. Maybe you fit her preferences and she has agency, therefore you don’t need the confident outgoing vibe to get her.
/r/seduction01/11/21 04:28 AM
2

Sometimes if a girl identifies you as a high status guy she wants to be with she’ll go into submissive/“good girlfriend” mode to telegraph her interest and to try keep you around. If you suddenly change your behavior that could affect how she perceives you, which can pull her out of that mindset. Basically there’s no such thing as a sweet/innocent/submissive TYPE, it’s more of a temporary behavioral choice that women can activate at will. General rule of thumb: whatever you’re doing if it’s work…
/r/seduction30/10/21 02:22 PM
0

“I don’t know, I get a feeling like I have to pee? And then I just can’t do it???” “I think I’ve had an orgasm before, I’m not sure” “My last boyfriend yelled at me to have an orgasm and I couldn’t do it and I cried, please don’t pressure me into trying to do it” I think you mean well but I find your comment rather dismissive. Have you ever had a long term relationship with a woman? Or just shorter flings? It’s possible your partners never trusted you enough to confide in you about that. The wom…
/r/seduction28/10/21 03:21 AM
15

It means she’s never had one and likely can’t. Probably a third of all women I’ve been with said that to me or admitted to having severe difficulty orgasming even while alone. This is completely normal and common. If you’re with a woman like that it’s best to take the focus off trying to get her to orgasm during sex. That’s only going to make her anxious and give her performance anxiety. It’s better to just enjoy the intimacy. Make her feel good without the expectation for an outcome. Also ignor…
/r/seduction27/10/21 02:59 PM
5

That’s how women date. Totally at the whim of their short term emotions, which means no agency over their own romantic choices as a result. 2 possible solutions here. Either you learn to make decisions about your romantic life and stand by them. OR someday you’ll meet a woman who pushes all the right emotional buttons and you’ll get hooked on her because she always seems to be a challenge. Your choice.
/r/seduction25/10/21 02:29 PM
2

“Does he really like me, or is he just like all the other guys?” “Is he really my friend, or does he just want to hook up with me?” The test is stupid because in both cases you’re likely going to be open to hooking up even if you have the best intentions. But they don’t see it that way. Not saying that’s the case here though. I actually think she wants to do something with you. It’s likely you’ll get another chance in the near future.
/r/seduction24/10/21 11:44 PM
3

You did fine. Half the time questions like these are a test so it’s always better to give the most honest direct answer
/r/seduction24/10/21 05:20 PM
4

I’ve had many girlfriends that started with social media inbox messages and ALL of them either messaged me first or started interacting with me heavily to the point it was obvious that I should message them. Just drop a like or two and wait. If she likes something back then you find something to comment. Then if that goes well you can message her or drop the ball completely and she’ll end up messaging you.
/r/seduction24/10/21 02:10 AM
6

I think if you tell her how this is making you feel it might magically fix the problem and she’ll start having sex with you. Not even joking. She’s probably got some hangup like she’s afraid you’ll think less of her and all she needs to know is you won’t. Or she could be waiting for marriage. In which case that solves the “not attracted to me” problem. Or she could be borderline a-sexual. I had one girlfriend I was with for a year like that. Sex and physical intimacy with her always felt uncomfo…
/r/seduction20/10/21 01:27 PM
15

There was no negging or any pua techniques like that. Every platform seemed to have its own protocol for how you were supposed to talk to people. I remember discovering what I call “the crazy test” during this time. Basically a woman will ghost without explanation for 24 hours or so just to see how you’ll respond. If you send any kind of a “guess you don’t want to talk to me then” or repeated texts to get their attention then you lose. You’re supposed to just wait until they message you again th…
/r/seduction18/10/21 06:59 PM
22

Same reason they like men in uniform. He looks good without looking like he’s trying to look good.
/r/seduction18/10/21 06:35 PM
39

Ok so basically I was using online dating. I remember not having any luck at first so I started changing my profile around until I’d get responses. Those conversations weren’t going anywhere though, so I would experiment with how I was talking to them until they started wanting to meet. So on and so forth. I was using multiple dating sites at the time. Tinder, pof, meet me, and a couple others I don’t remember. It got to the point I had a new girl every week wanting to come over. I was even sett…
/r/seduction18/10/21 04:09 PM
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I agree with all of this except you don’t need to be 6’4. I’m 5’7 and did the same thing. Also at the time my money was SHIT and I was depressed and in big legal trouble.
/r/seduction18/10/21 02:32 PM
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I haven’t been with 100 but I did have a year I was with like 20. That was a bad year for me, I was struggling with other aspects of life and I used female attention as a way to distract myself. It didn’t help. The trick is to always assume they’re interested and make getting the girl the central focus of your life. It should be all you’re thinking about. Make it your hobby. I think its obvious how that can be corrosive for everything else in your life though. Instead of focusing on making more …
/r/seduction18/10/21 02:25 PM
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He wants the power of choice. He doesn’t want to beg for love. He wants to feel good enough. Valid reasons.
/r/seduction17/10/21 05:08 PM
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You can try to game it by also pulling back but in my experience that just adds layers of confusion and toxicity to your relationship with her. It’s better to flatly communicate what you observed and how you feel, THEN pull back. That way she knows what she did “wrong” in the context of how you framed it to her, she can make a choice after processing things. You don’t need to be convincing or accusatory when you communicate by the way. Just flatly deliver the information in a concise way. Could …
/r/seduction16/10/21 01:06 PM
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Yeah. Just text back fast and be available. That will make any girl who’s not emotionally ready for an LTR go cold so you can stop wasting your time. In my experience you’ll go through 3 to 5 “sure things” before you find 1 who actually becomes more interested in you when you reciprocate rather than less. That’s the one you focus your effort on. I think sex would work the same way. I don’t try for a lot of hookups but the ones I’ve had were similar. Just be very forward and receptive. Anyone who…
/r/seduction15/10/21 04:02 PM
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I agree that relationships are where it’s at and empty sex is unfulfilling. The problem is the meaningful connection you’re talking about building first triggers all kinds of runners instincts and prior relationship trauma for women. To protect themselves they will pick you apart and find something wrong before they allow things to progress. You will end up in the best friendzone as a result 99.9% of the time no matter how she felt about you before hand or what qualification boxes you tick for h…
/r/seduction12/10/21 04:42 AM
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Yup. Easiest way to move on from somebody is to find someone else lol. I wouldn’t say it’s a bad thing to get “hung up” though as long as those feelings are reciprocated
/r/seduction11/10/21 07:15 PM
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You have to learn to trust your decision making ability. You have the power to decide who you’re going to be with. Attraction is just like any other emotion. It comes and goes and it can be based on a lot of things. A life partner needs to be more stable than that. Would you want to be with someone who’s just going to leave the first time they see you in an unattractive light? What I do is I just push through in those early stages. Someone stops being a challenge, I get cold feet, I keep going o…
/r/seduction11/10/21 12:11 PM
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That’s totally normal for guys. I’ve never heard this happening to a woman but I wouldn’t think it’s any different. You’ve conquered him and now there’s no challenge anymore so you’re ready to move on to the next. I would bet he’s also being very available and is responding to your texts quickly which is probably adding to it. If you don’t fix this you’ll end up with somebody who never stops being a challenge, either because they’re not into you or they cheat, or are hiding things, etc. When I f…
/r/seduction10/10/21 06:54 PM
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