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A simple 'Okay' or 'Thats cool' then just change the subject and continue the conversation. Basically give her a simple response then change the subject.
/r/seduction29/01/13 01:13 AM
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When your trying to plan a night out its nice to have a lot of options on who you want to bring out with you. Also if one person is busy, you still have a ton of other options.
/r/seduction28/12/11 11:58 AM
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K-closed my friends sister. Hilarity ensued
/r/seduction05/09/11 11:06 PM
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Don't guys want to chase girls? Yes and no A lot of men would love a girl who is actually upfront about her feelings, and doesn't play games. If I went out with a girl, and at the end of the night she simply said initiated the whole 'Lets go have sex' I'd be turned on (And feel like a fucking boss). The main reason us men play these 'seduction games' is because women want to make it more complicated that it needs to be (Please don't take this the wrong way!). You said yourself that you just want…
/r/seduction29/04/11 05:17 AM
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Its very important to always include your name, and some sort of inside joke the two of you share (assuming you both remember the conversation) in your first text. Until she remembers who you are, you're just a random guy/number she doesn't care about.
/r/seduction10/04/11 01:19 AM
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I use the "2" rule. Double the time if its taking her a long time two respond. At least two minutes if were having a 'flowing' text convo.
/r/seduction05/04/11 03:05 PM
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worked in the industry, knows waitstaff fuck like rabbits, particularly each other Exactly. In the food industry it is common for employees to fuck each other/customers. Hell they should almost include it in the 'Job Duties'.
/r/seduction15/02/11 02:26 PM
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"Its okay, I'll give you a minute to get over this age problem" If they tell me I look young "Hah, thanks! It sucks now but it will be a gift when I'm 40!" Also check out this post
/r/seduction15/02/11 02:15 PM
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For the love of god get some good boxer briefs!
/r/seduction13/02/11 12:35 PM
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Cakebread, I'm gonna send you something via PM that should open your eyes about Vegas. Don't suppose you'd send that my way as well? I make a trip to Vegas every year and I'm always looking for ways to make it more exciting.
/r/seduction13/02/11 04:37 AM
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On OkCupid if they rate you a 4 or 5 you get an e-mail saying that someone gave you a 4/5 star rating. Then they give you 5 or so random people and the one person who gave you the high rating. If you then give her a 4-5 back it shows who the other person is.
/r/seduction09/02/11 12:28 PM
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Thanks for these female field reports. Its nice seeing things from the other side of the field.
/r/seduction08/02/11 04:03 PM
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Assuming your house isn't the first location of the night this should not be a problem
/r/seduction08/02/11 03:47 PM
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This is 100% true. I had the same reputation as yourself in HS, but by changing how I dress and how I interact people react to me much differently now.
/r/seduction30/01/11 11:48 AM
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Great FR, its nice seeing the other side of the game. And to all the guys who are saying 'All girls need to do is say yes,' think of this. You know all those girls that you approach that are just downright difficult to talk to? As in no matter how good you are, you just cant seem to get a conversation. Those are the female AFC's, yes they exist! I want to thank you FemalePUA for what your doing. Lets hope it catches on with the ladies as fast as it did the guys!
/r/seduction09/01/11 01:19 AM
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For the love of god do not make the game top priority. I used to work at a bowling alley so I saw my fair share of awkward first dates, and the number one problem I noticed was the guy was more focused on the game than the girl. You should be talking to her every time you throw the ball. Also throw in some 'trick shots' (between the legs, etc) and get her involved (even though a lot of bowling alleys frown upon those shots). Oh and as a final note, get less games than you think you need (you can…
/r/seduction05/01/11 10:23 PM
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I could set up some 'trial' vent server in about 5 minutes if you want. The problem with that is Vent limits the number of people you can have in a 'trial' server. Last time I checked you cant get the full version of vent 'freely' (but it was years ago last time I tried). If the interest is there I will do it!
/r/seduction04/01/11 09:51 AM
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"How much does a Polar Bear Weigh?" "Enough to break the ice. How are you doing?" Seriously though its not that hard. Just talk to people. have a good positive demeanor and don't look/act like a creeper. Once you get that down you'll be fine.
/r/seduction29/11/10 09:29 PM
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I worked at a concession stand at a bowling alley for close to a year and it was amazing. I got to talk to tons of girls, and I would get phone numbers almost daily. Honestly it doesn't matter what you do, its just a matter of working somewhere that you get to talk to a lot of people. I also had a decent amount of success while working as a chef in a cafe style eatery. TLDR; Doesn't matter what you do, just work somewhere with lots of people. Any cashier position is golden.
/r/seduction10/11/10 04:49 AM
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Learn to control yourself and you wont get that feeling of intense anxiety in any interaction. Learn to control what you show on the outside, and eventually you will be able to control how you feel on the inside.
/r/seduction05/11/10 11:17 AM
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Just tell him if he wants her number he's gonna have to get it himself. If he has a problem with that tell him tough shit.
/r/seduction04/11/10 03:22 PM
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Its a common problem guys have when talking to girls. Its the same reason you're able to hold a conversation with a guy easier than with an attractive female. The trick to getting over this is simple.. Quit becoming attracted to girls before you know them. I see posts on here all the time about people complaining about the 'dumb girls' they meet in the bars and clubs, yet they are automatically attracted to her simply because of her looks. The solution? Stop becoming attracted to women before yo…
/r/seduction04/11/10 01:36 PM
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I'm generally bad at remembering names, but much better at remembering where people are from. I do that, except I use the location where i bet them instead. Although this leads me to have lots of people listed under 'Bar A' and 'Bar B'.
/r/seduction04/11/10 05:57 AM
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Just tell her to come join you for drinks. Take her out to the bar and buy her at most one drink. Thats all I would do for my guy friends on their birthday, so thats all the Girls get as well.
/r/seduction04/11/10 05:54 AM
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Link Sorry it took me so long.
/r/seduction03/11/10 08:17 PM
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I have a lot of material to read No you don't. Go out there and talk to women, then when you realize you have a problem in a particular area, then you go read up on it. For example: I have recently been flirting with a lot of girls who have boyfriends (or so they say), so I decided to go read up on some 'boyfriend destroyers.' The Saturday before Halloween I was at this bar when this girl that works there started talking to me and sending me signals. We were flirting and had heavy kino going, th…
/r/seduction01/11/10 03:36 PM
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Relatedly, the girls you think are hot now? Probably not hot a few years from now. That twiggy girl you never really thought about? Smoking at 21. I actually got this advise going into high school, and it couldn't be more true.
/r/seduction01/11/10 03:23 PM
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I may have woke my roommate up laughing when I read that
/r/seduction01/11/10 03:12 PM
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Actually I got the idea from this post.
/r/seduction30/10/10 11:55 PM
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I once heard that you should imagine yourself ravishing the girl you are looking at. Apparently the dirty thoughts give you the perfect seductive gaze
/r/seduction30/10/10 02:26 PM
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Everyone here is saying not to do it, but coming from someone who has worked in kitchens for 6+ years I say go for it. Workplace relationships are incredibly common in kitchens, and something about the personality of people that work food service makes it not as awkward (most of the time). I'll share some of my tips for gaming in the kitchen, but I'm a cook so its more geared twords talking to them from behind the line. First of all (and most importantly) you need to be confident about your job.…
/r/seduction24/10/10 02:46 AM
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This is true for 99% of jobs. But I have worked in kitchens for 6 years, and it is incredibly common to see people hook up at work.
/r/seduction24/10/10 02:07 AM
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Great, now I have to download that movie so I can watch it again
/r/seduction23/10/10 06:18 PM
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It was like trying to PU while cats were having sex in a dryer. I love you for giving me this visual.
/r/seduction23/10/10 09:59 AM
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Speaking from experience, this works. You should also pick up a bottle for shots!
/r/seduction22/10/10 10:46 PM
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I have seen this many times, and I love it every time..
/r/seduction21/10/10 06:09 AM
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More details of the social dynamics of the situation would have been great though. I posted some more details as responses, but feel free to post more specific questions, although honestly the whole thing just happened without myself having to do much of anything.
/r/seduction20/10/10 06:00 PM
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I know you are just recounting the weekend, but the majority of this post is 'we go out for a smoke. nothing happens. we come back in.' I'll try to keep the un-neccesary details out next time. Smoke breaks to me are my only way to 'keep track of time' when I've been drinking which is why I mentioned them. The social dynamics of that situation would be helpful in understanding how it all came together. I explained it a little better in my response to OkCspecialist, what other kind of details are …
/r/seduction20/10/10 05:57 PM
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Where do get your adderall? I have a few friends with prescriptions that I get it from. Its reat for the bar because it helps you stay awake, and it allows you to drink more without getting drunk (is like magic!). Problem is it can also kill your erection quicker than whiskey dick so you need to be careful (also makes for a painful night trying to sleep)
/r/seduction20/10/10 05:51 PM
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Had you slept with this roommate before? Yeah, we have slept together previously, although that ended over a year ago (except for the occasional night of too much drinking). We had attempted the 3-some before but never got all the way (just kissing and fingering previously). how is the aftermath? Well girl A didn't seem bothered at all by waking up net to me in my bedroom without pants on. Girl B texted me the next morning asking how all the 'drama' went last night (referring to me 'fighting' my…
/r/seduction20/10/10 05:48 PM
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I always text them a few minutes after getting their number, teasing them with something we were just talking about. And always put your name on the bottom of the first text.
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:56 AM
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Working on a field report, but its a long one. I had a crazy weekend.
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:53 AM
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I am proud to say I accomplished the Advanced challenge this week. Although I didn't bring them home from the club, they were over at my place for a small gathering I put together. Still counts, right?
/r/seduction19/10/10 04:32 PM
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I've learned to wave at a girl after we've made eye contact multiple times but our environment doesn't necessarily let me just zoom on over I stick my tongue out at them, then give them a smirk. It creates a more playful mood than simply waving.
/r/seduction18/10/10 08:37 PM
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Exactly. People will always try to hold you back. Just keep doing what your doing and they'll get used to it (or just ignore it) eventually.
/r/seduction18/10/10 07:20 PM
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Just mention other girls in your general conversation. Tell her stories (DHV) about when you were out with another girl "OMG I was out with Sarah yesterday when this..." or when they ask you what your doing today say your going out to location X with girl Y. Dont over think it. All it comes down to is letting her know she's not the only girl you talk to.
/r/seduction16/10/10 11:44 PM
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That sounds like funny as hell! I'm gonna give it a try at the Zombie Pub Crawl this weekend.
/r/seduction06/10/10 02:12 PM
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Read this
/r/seduction30/09/10 06:43 AM
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Androids have an app where you can do scrolling LED text.. I've thought about using that when I'm in a car
/r/seduction24/09/10 11:06 AM
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I don't understand all these haters in this thread. I have used lines similar to to these and I've never had them go over poorly. I believe too many people here just have problems getting the proper mindset/personality when trying to say things like this. As a side note, I love your blog. I found it before I discovered the community and it was what made me start changing myself for the better. Thanks man
/r/seduction12/09/10 11:13 AM
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Are you kidding me? I have used lines similar to this before and they work out great. You just need to man up, its all about the delivery.
/r/seduction12/09/10 10:57 AM
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Women’s Clothing Section – Hold up an article of women’s clothing (dress, high-heels, etc). “What do you think, is this me? Does it match my eyes?” I have used lines like that many times and it works great. You just need to man up, its all in the delivery.
/r/seduction12/09/10 10:56 AM
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I was out on a date with a girl from OkCupid and we were carrying on a pretty strong conversation, but occasionally the conversation would lul periodically and she would gave me an awkward look. When I called her on it she just made some comment about the 'awkward silence' and I gave her the same advise you posted here. Seemed to help her because she was much more comfortable with everything from that point on.
/r/seduction12/09/10 10:50 AM
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Meh, who cares if your busy. If she blows you off without setting up possible future plans it shows disinterest.
/r/seduction09/09/10 08:48 AM
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“Victory is won not in miles but in inches. Win a little now, hold your ground, and later, win a little more.” Being able to see your mistakes is the first step. Now you need to understand how your going wrong, and work to fix it. One step at a time.
/r/seduction09/09/10 08:39 AM
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There are people everywhere. Just talk to them!
/r/seduction09/09/10 08:30 AM
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Working out. Lost over 50 pounds, look great, and I have the self-confidence to match.
/r/seduction09/09/10 05:06 AM
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Just ask to go back to her place. You don't need to say you live with your parents, just mention that you live a long ways away.
/r/seduction07/09/10 05:43 AM
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Sorry, I forgot to post this forever ago. Here's the book I was talking about. Enjoy
/r/seduction07/09/10 05:35 AM
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When I get treated like that by girls I always call them out on it.. 'Oh, thats all I get? Wow, talk about manners!' to my friend 'Where did you meet this girl?' Then when she tries to defend herself cut her off with 'Nope, sorry. You lost your chance. Better luck next time.' and end it with a smirk that lets her know your fucking with her, then walk off and start talking to other people. Open her again later in the night if she doesn't open you first.
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:54 PM
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Honestly everything you posted here could also be true for any gathering where people are drinking (except the ease of access to a bedroom).
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:52 PM
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Its only awkward if you make it awkward.
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:37 PM
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SW suburb of Minneapolis. I know there's a good number of MN people on here, I've talked to them in other threads.
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:10 PM
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Hit enter twice.
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:08 PM
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I asked if she wanted one If she was interested you probably lost it when you asked her if she wanted a date. Thats too indirect, comes of as seriously beta. Next time just be more direct.. PUA: 'Do you have a date?' Her: 'No' PUA: 'Good, we can go together then'
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:03 PM
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Say anything. I like usually ask them something simple like 'Hey, how you doin?' (Bonus points if you do it like Joey from Friends), then transition into 'How long they got you stuck here for?' Might not be the best, but it gets them talking, and the second line isnt something most customers ever ask. After that you can continue the conversation talking about what you/her are doing the rest of the night, which allows you to get more information about her (for example I know this cashier at the s…
/r/seduction05/09/10 10:54 PM
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TL;DR: Become Silent Bob. Best TLDR I've ever read. If you do the note thing right you'll be fine. Honestly I think you'll be better off with the note thing than waiting till you heal. Good luck man.
/r/seduction02/09/10 05:56 AM
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Maybe you can do a crime and get sentenced to community service Or just volunteer around your community. Basically community service without the crime.
/r/seduction29/08/10 11:52 PM
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Exactly. I quit smoking before I go into any social setting outside of my normal group of friends. Smoking makes me too damn quiet.
/r/seduction29/08/10 11:51 PM
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“Victory is won not in miles but in inches. Win a little now, hold your ground, and later, win a little more.”
/r/seduction28/08/10 06:20 AM
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I feel like I'm closer to stage 4 or 5, but I know I'm still in stage 2. Girls are still 'targets' in my mind, and I have yet to personally witness the true evil that women are capable of.
/r/seduction27/08/10 07:34 PM
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First off, congratulations. You did what you set out to do, meet people, and had fun. Now as for Wednesday. It doesn't matter if your attracted to this girl, go out with her and show her a good time. It will be good way for you to practice your social skills you claim to be lacking. Besides, better to be out with a girl than sitting at home!
/r/seduction27/08/10 07:27 PM
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I'm very aware of not putting women on a pedestal and that in order to get the one girl, you must first be able to get all the girls. But knowing this and actually practicing it has been difficult for me. The cure for 'pedestal syndrome' is easier than you think. Everyone says just do it, but it doesn't work that way. What solved it for me was the day I realized that I was putting girls on a pedestal before I got to know them. From day one I liked them only because they were cute, not because I …
/r/seduction27/08/10 06:41 PM
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It requires a bench, some sort of squat rack (I was using milk crates till I started squatting so heavy I was fearful of breaking them), and a pull-up bar. With a little bit of money you can get everything off craigslist for pretty cheap (Got my bench/weights for under 100).
/r/seduction27/08/10 01:31 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
/r/seduction27/08/10 12:48 PM
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I understand EXACTLY where your coming from. I made the terrible decision a few months back to watch Waiting with this very conservative girl over at her (conservative) parents house. Almost as bad as the time I was watching that same movie while waiting in a line with a bunch of foreigners and the waitress yells 'I FUCKING HATE FOREIGNERS!' (If you've seen the movie you can imagine how awkward that situation was) Also, good job still coming out on top! (or bottom as it may be)
/r/seduction27/08/10 12:29 PM
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I've heard a lot of good things about P90X although I've never done it myself. I started Stronglifts 5x5 over the winter and it was the best damn thing I've ever done for myself.
/r/seduction27/08/10 12:23 PM
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Honestly it does work just like that. All you need is about 5 minutes of decent conversation to get her number. Although more is always better (decreases the chances that she will flake). Also if your trying to bring her home that night you need a lot more (Unless you use the Apocalypse opener!)
/r/seduction27/08/10 12:20 PM
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I made eyes with her when we were waiting outside for class and I froze. She is exactly my type. This is your problem. You've never talked to her, but you already think she's 'perfect'. She's not perfect, nobody is perfect. You need to quit putting every girl your interested in on a pedestal. The single best piece of advise I've ever gotten: Quit falling for girls before you even talk to them. Their just as insecure and imperfect than everyone else. Make them work to win you over, not the other …
/r/seduction27/08/10 12:16 PM
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Just say 'Oh, that sucks' and get up and walk away (assuming its not a 'date'). Show her that your not interested if she's not willing to give you a real answer. Come back later and she might be a little more receptive.
/r/seduction27/08/10 12:07 PM
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If you tell yourself you're going to do something, do it when you say you will and not a second later 3 second rule is amazing for these situations
/r/seduction26/08/10 11:01 PM
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Going to class, which gets me out of the house talking to people, then going to the bar tonight with a friend for some live music. Tomorrow I'm going out to do more job hunting so I'll be talking to a lot of hostesses and managers/kitchen managers. Also trying to quit drinking as much, and get back into the habit of working out!
/r/seduction25/08/10 07:25 PM
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Need to work on building more attraction with the target. When trying to isolate them don't make it sound like some long time commitment, just something quick and casual like 'Come here quick, I want to show you this awesome whatever'.
/r/seduction25/08/10 07:21 PM
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'Hey guys, how's it going?' Honestly too many people worry about opening. What you open with isn't nearly as important as where you go from there. I open with 'interview' style questions all the time, but it doesn't matter because I have learned how to use their response and continue the conversation into something more meaningful.
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:19 PM
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Because she is 19. Its a terrible habbit that most people have gotten in now days. They attempt to shorten things or use other nonsensical words in texting. No point in making a big deal about it.
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:16 PM
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That was my thought, she was probably just looking for other people that smoke. It's the start of a new school year so everyone is out looking for new friends and connections.
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:12 PM
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That was my thought, she was probably just looking for other people that smoke. It's the start of a new school year so everyone is out looking for new friends and connections.
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:11 PM
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Do I need to escalate things if I am interested? Yes
/r/seduction23/08/10 02:57 AM
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Talk to more people.
/r/seduction22/08/10 11:50 PM
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I just posted the link. I have a ton of books on my computer as well if anyone is looking for something specific.
/r/seduction21/08/10 11:44 PM
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Uploaded here I also included some video I had. Don't think I've ever watched the whole thing, but I believe it's just a slideshow/review of all the 'laws'.
/r/seduction21/08/10 11:38 PM
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Not saying this would have worked, but I read this in someone else's field report and thought it was a great line. Her: I'm too young for you/Your too old Me: Haha, your right. Thanks for the offer though! I would definitely just drop that age thing all together, it almost never ends positively. Although make sure you are prepared for her 'age related' shit tests. I made a post awhile back about handling those. The best line I got from there is for when they ask how old you are, you respond with…
/r/seduction21/08/10 11:29 PM
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Couldn't agree more about calling people. I hate texting because it takes too long and leaves too much up to the imagination (10% what you say, 90% how you say it). That makes it very hard to display your personality through texts. Oh, and one more thing I just thought of.. Be clear, and use punctuation/capitalization when you text! Even if she doesn't, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't. Punctuation makes your text easier to read, and makes it look a million times better. Remember, punctuatio…
/r/seduction21/08/10 11:18 PM
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NEG—noun: an ambiguous statement or seemingly accidental insult delivered to a beautiful woman a pickup artist has just met, with the intent of actively demonstrating to her (or her friends) a lack of interest in her. Directly from 'The Game'. A neg is used in the start of an interaction, to make her think that your not interested in her (which in turn makes her lower her defenses). Teasing shouldn't be as harsh or direct as a neg. A neg is supposed to be taken seriously, on the other hand she s…
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:54 PM
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DO NOT go on any medications to relieve anxiety, etc. Drinking is also a bad idea. You start to rely on that liquid courage.. Too often I hear the line 'I need a drink before I do this' when in reality you should go do it, then buy yourself a drink as an award.
/r/seduction21/08/10 09:49 PM
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Aye. He was just there trying to enjoy himself, no need for you to be a dick. Being alpha isn't about being an asshole, its about being dominant and a leader. No one wants to follow a leader who is going to make other guys look/feel bad.
/r/seduction21/08/10 09:34 PM
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Go find the book and read it, its pretty good. I can upload it if your having problems finding it.
/r/seduction21/08/10 09:27 PM
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Just remember that not every girl wants that 6 ft. muscled guy. Just the other day I was having a talk with a female friend and she said she absolutely hates guys who have the 'chiseled six pack.' Also a lot of those guys are muscle heads, and suck at having good conversations. Use your strengths!
/r/seduction21/08/10 09:25 PM
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You are mixing up the idea of a teasing and negging. A neg is supposed to be 'harsh', and only used to break the bitch shield/lower her defenses. That being said you almost never need them on a girl who isn't an 8+ (Those are the girls that think their 'all that' because they get hit on constantly). Teasing on the other hand is supposed to be playful, and light hearted (Hence the idea of flirting). For instance in your first example, you say ""All girls say that, but none of them can roll well."…
/r/seduction21/08/10 09:20 PM
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Don't let it be a big deal. Most short comings are only a big deal if you make it one. Just be confident. Quick example: I recently got my hair cut into a mow-hawk while I was in Vegas. I could tell by talking to people that my hair drastically affected the way they responded to me. I got a lot of sideways glances from girls where I used to get appreciative looks. This made me more worried about approaching people because now I had to overcome their negative opinions. But after awhile I honestly…
/r/seduction21/08/10 08:03 PM
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I tried to re-post the stuff from the last thread but its a formatting disaster! I'll just perma-link the stuff for anyone if their interested. The Alien text Few examples of me using the Alien Text A few text tips that I have picked up I have a book at home that talks all about text game which helped me out a lot. I'll upload it and give you guys a link when I get home.
/r/seduction21/08/10 07:57 PM
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A few other tips that have helped my text game. Don't attempt to carry on full/long conversations through text. Those are best left for a phone call, or even AIM/MSN/Facebook. If your trying to set things up with her (planing the date) and its going to take more than a fist-full of texts just call her. Every text should have a purpose. For example: The two of you are texting, and she sends you something like "I'll be there at 4" you should not respond with a simple 'Okay'. People read single wor…
/r/seduction21/08/10 07:48 PM
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I'm in about the same position as you. I can walk up to random girls and talk to them no problem. I carry on a good conversation etc. get numbers and all that fun stuff. Some numbers lead onto a day two, others don't. I think what I need to start working on is taking them on an inta-date which will help make them feel more connection/attraction twords me which will help once were no longer together (and I'm trying to get a hold of her). I also have some friends that tell me that I come off as an…
/r/seduction21/08/10 07:21 PM
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Exactly. It's a joke, so most of the time they wont take it as an insult. If they do get seriously offended then they probably don't have a good sense of humor!
/r/seduction21/08/10 07:15 PM
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A few examples for you guys Me: Aliens Blah blah blah Her: What do you mean I'll be fine? U saying I am not sexy nah, I think ur saying I am so sexy that I am untouchable! Go me!. He he unless you disagree somehow? ;p <;)><;)>yay (That was almost painful to type with her grammar) Me: (No response. I was working and she knew it) Her: Ur not going anywhere, tell those aliens too bad. ;p <;)> Me: You going to watch the fireworks tonight? (we just set up a date from this point on) Another one (this …
/r/seduction21/08/10 06:27 PM
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It is a strong neg, but its also humorous so they usually don't pay much attention to it. Sense its all wrapped up as a joke they usually dont take the neg personally. Even if they try saying something about it you can just power through. I'll find a few examples of times I used it and post the conversation here (assuming my phone still has logs).
/r/seduction21/08/10 05:57 PM
1

Exactly, just go out there and have fun. When I was in Vegas (I went there for a mostly male (geek) convention) I went to a party, and there were maybe 15-20 people out on the floor. Between my willingness to go out there and dance, and the fact that I was handing shots out to everybody (Male and Female, I had two handles with me) gave me amazing social proof. By the end of the night everybody there knew me, and for the next couple days I kept getting people walking up to me and talking to me ab…
/r/seduction21/08/10 05:37 PM
1

I've done this before as well. Works well, although I still prefer to just abstain from it all together for a few days.
/r/seduction21/08/10 05:33 PM
4

I'm horrible at text game (I'm working on it though), but just keep the conversation flirty. I posted a link to a book about text-game awhile ago if you want me to dig it up. Although I'm going to leave you with this gem that has gotten me good responses from about 75% of the girls I sent it to.. 'Aliens are coming by tonight to abduct all the smart and sexy people. Don't worry, you'll be fine, I'm just saying goodbye. ;)'
/r/seduction21/08/10 05:27 PM
2

Read the top post's here. The next step is to get out and start talking to people. You don't need to read a ton of the PUA material, although it can help once you start getting more advanced. The biggest thing in the beginning is to just get out there and talk to people so you get over your AA and are able to carry on conversations with random people comfortably.
/r/seduction21/08/10 05:24 PM
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I agree with the other people here, don't pay for her drink. When she said "I will only dance with you if you buy me a drink" I would have just said "Well thats to bad" and walked away. Never buy a drink for a girl you just met. Only buy them a drink as a reward for good behavior (Such as after you make her jump through some hoops).
/r/seduction21/08/10 05:11 PM
1

Agreed, its textbook LMR. Once you get through that, even if their telling the truth, just listen to ThrowawayPUA.
/r/seduction21/08/10 04:34 PM
1

Yes, no reason not to. If the two of you hit it off you want to bring it to one on one as fast as possible. If you keep hanging out in a group you'll end up in the friend zone
/r/seduction21/08/10 04:26 PM
1

I'm nowhere close to there, but it sounds tempting to make my way out there for the holiday. Who knows, if I make it out there I'll let you know.
/r/seduction21/08/10 04:21 PM
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Don't do it. When you masturbate you lower your testosterone, and decrease your desire for sexual release. Makes you less likely to try to escalate. In fact, don't jerk it for a few days before going out and you will notice a difference.
/r/seduction21/08/10 01:19 AM
2

Every time I read the word luls I couldn't help but think of lulz.. Made it VERY difficult to read.
/r/seduction20/08/10 07:15 AM
4

She offered to help but I couldn't concentrate on cooking and conversation and giving her something to do at the same time so I took care of it. Bad decision. One of the most sexual/romantic things you can do is cook food together! Plenty of chances for Kino, and hand feeding each other. couldn't figure out how to initiate kin Just fucking do it. Playfully push her when she's being bad or tells a joke. Touch her elbow/shoulder when telling a story, or to emphasize a point. When she tells a cute/…
/r/seduction20/08/10 07:09 AM
2

Are there situations where you more experienced PUA's can't "outperform" the "competition". Doesn't matter if you cant out-perform him. He (most likely) wont take every girl in the room home (assuming there's more than one girl). Pick your target, and work it. Also be-friend that guy, makes for great social proof.
/r/seduction20/08/10 06:59 AM
1

Or just take a seat within the first 30 seconds "I cant hear you guys up here, mind if I take this seat" (You should be sitting before you even finish this sentence)
/r/seduction20/08/10 06:35 AM
1

In the beginning of most approaches you will be doing 90% of the talking because she has no reason to talk to you. Once you build rapport, and she is interested in you she will start to do more of the talking, but you cant expect a complete stranger to provide even 30% of the conversation in the first couple minutes.
/r/seduction20/08/10 06:33 AM
1

That movie is brilliant. Last time I saw it I was 16. I feel like I should re-watch it now that I can actually appreciate it.
/r/seduction19/08/10 09:00 PM
1

I remember reading/watching something a while back about some guy who would walk up to some set, anchor himself in some spot, and simply never leave. If the girl wanted to stop talking to him, they would have to walk away. I'll try to find the link..
/r/seduction19/08/10 08:25 PM
1

Exactly. I bought some casual penny loafers (Not like your grandpa's penny loafers!) a few months back and I love them. Guys try to give me shit about wearing penny loafers, but the girl almost always defends me because they look good. Also I'm 21.
/r/seduction19/08/10 08:07 PM
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Reminds me of my flight back from Vegas. Sat next to this HB8 and ended up getting her number. I've been meaning to write a FR. Probably write it up tomorrow on my day off.
/r/seduction19/08/10 07:18 AM
1

whether that is acceptable while she's working? Don't worry about that. I used to have girls come up and flirt with me at work all the time (although I'm sure most of them just wanted freebies). Although if possible try to do it when she isn't busy or near a bunch of her employees, but don't use that as an excuse not to do it.
/r/seduction17/08/10 05:09 PM
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Just go in there, and talk to her. When the conversation is going good just tell her that you would like to see her again sometime outside of work. No need to make it any more difficult than it needs to be.
/r/seduction17/08/10 04:16 PM
18

there wasn't a good time to make a move Thats a lie that men tell themselves because they didn't man up.
/r/seduction17/08/10 04:12 PM
2

Thats why you shouldn't use any pick-up lines when talking to her. Just make it casual. If your worried about coming off as creepy just give yourself a reason for sitting next to her 'I like tanning but it gets so boring just laying out by yourself, so I figured I'd come bother you for awhile'.
/r/seduction17/08/10 03:26 PM
1

I tried finding one in MN but haven't had any luck. I found two of them, but neither appears to be active anymore.
/r/seduction17/08/10 03:17 PM
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Frankly, if this EVER happened to me, I would be tremendously flattered as long as the guy was being nice (hi! what are you looking at!?) and not a jerk (hi! you have boobs!). More guys need to realize this. Women don't get approached as often as we believe they do (outside of a bar). Just talk to them like a normal person and they almost always respond positively.
/r/seduction17/08/10 02:43 PM
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Just walk up and talk to them. If their reading a book just ask them what their reading. You could also try setting up a beach towel next to them so you can get a tan yourself, then just start talking to her. If you really need an opener for her, just walk up to her and say 'It looks like you got the best spot on the beach, mind if I join you' with your towel/tanning lotion in hand.
/r/seduction17/08/10 02:40 PM
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I have a friend Don't lie to us!
/r/seduction17/08/10 01:32 PM
1

Technically, if you touch a person anywhere but their elbow it can be considered assault/sexual harassment. Unfortunately this is true. That being said I wouldn't have tapped the girl on the leg unless she was responding positively to you.
/r/seduction17/08/10 01:27 PM
2

Hah! Nice.
/r/seduction17/08/10 11:58 AM
2

The main weakness in the strategy is making sure you realize the LJBF is coming That shouldn't be hard if you have any experience with women. I can feel the 'friend zone' coming from a mile away (Kino should make it obvious). The trick here is it allows you to skip the awkward moment after she gives you the LJBF talk.
/r/seduction16/08/10 06:49 AM
1

Hint: Old McDonald had a farm EIEIO
/r/seduction15/08/10 06:20 PM
2

I'm going to give that line a try, sounds like fun
/r/seduction14/08/10 10:16 PM
1

When I invite her to come along, should it be an event with my friends, or just two of us while I'm doing something that I would have done anyway? Doesn't matter much, just make sure its something fun that she might be interested in doing. I usually send them a text trying to get them to come out to whatever bar that I'm going to that night. The key is to make it casual, and not sound like a date (avoid that word like the plague).
/r/seduction14/08/10 07:22 PM
5

If a PUA steals your LTR you should thank him. Seriously. If the girl your dating is so easily persuaded to leave you for someone else you should be happy your no longer with her.
/r/seduction14/08/10 02:37 PM
1

I say go for it. Send her a message, but act like you don't recognize her. If she responds, game on. Also I can only hope you now have a different/better photo than last time.
/r/seduction13/08/10 11:09 PM
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Her - "Can you change the oil in my car?" Me - "Yeah but i charge a hefty fee." I say this kind of automatically, didn't think too much of it, so she stumps me with leaning in close and saying, "What's your fee?" Stumped. I have no idea where to go. Do I go straight for sexual favors? Do i say a kiss? I panic, and say "You couldn't afford me" FTFY
/r/seduction13/08/10 06:34 PM
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Link This isnt the one I put on mega-upload but it'll do.
/r/seduction13/08/10 06:20 PM
2

I uploaded that book on mega-upload a while back and posted it here. Reddit is being slow as hell right now, so I'll find the link for you later. She loved it when you had the confidence to go in for the kiss, but then ruined it by not keeping that confidence up and escalating faster. Honestly, stop masturbating for about a week at a time. Your body will produce more testosterone and increase your sexual drive, so you will naturally be more aggressive (Believe me, it works)
/r/seduction13/08/10 06:14 PM
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I've got a feeling exotic dancers require a slightly different mindset or things to be wary of. Anyone have tips or pitfalls I need to avoid? Take extra care to never 'objectify' her. She gets treated like an object all night at work. You need to be different. How do you navigate the "I don't kiss on the first date" line? Normally that line is a shit test, but I know a lot of dancers have a negative mindset about kissing. How do I best build comfort from here? treat her like you would every othe…
/r/seduction13/08/10 05:57 PM
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That was definitely a shit test on her behalf. I would have responded with 'Thats a shame, I always kiss on the first date.' Then I would have went for the kiss again a few minutes later.
/r/seduction13/08/10 05:52 PM
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I'm ashamed to say the first time I read it I was thinking 'WTF is this EIEIO shit supposed to mean?'
/r/seduction13/08/10 05:38 PM
2

Is it possible that not showering IMMEDIATELY after exercise is the culprit? Its possible. I know a lot of people who started getting mild breakouts once they started exercising. Try showering immediately after working out for a few weeks and see if that works for you.
/r/seduction13/08/10 05:22 PM
2

This thread holds the answers you're looking for. TLDR: Calibration!
/r/seduction13/08/10 07:55 AM
2

"Looks don't matter!" I think what they mean by that is you can still pick up good looking chicks if your butt ugly. Doesn't mean that a better looking guy with game cant steal them.
/r/seduction12/08/10 08:50 PM
2

Lolwut?
/r/seduction12/08/10 08:00 AM
2

Like I said, you're probably getting a lot of hate from people because she has a boyfriend. Seddit has some strange super-hatred twords people trying to so much as talk to someone else's girlfriend. Must be some left-over AFC fear of other guys stealing their girlfriend.
/r/seduction11/08/10 11:23 PM
3

Everywhere I go. I don't go out of my way to go out and meet women, I just talk to them wherever I happen to be. As long as you get out of the house and do stuff, you will meet plenty of women without having to make a point of going to the bar/club every night.
/r/seduction11/08/10 09:21 PM
2

True, I included the others just to show newbies that the majority of the time you get shot down its not that bad.
/r/seduction11/08/10 06:33 PM
2

The move closer depends on results that I think she gets on the 24th of august, so I guess I should mention that? Nah, no point really. When it comes to casual texting remember KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid!)
/r/seduction11/08/10 04:41 PM
1

Its cool, it all comes with practice/experience.
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:28 PM
1

Thats becasue most guys are to afraid to walk up to women they don't know and start talking to them. Thats why when you walk up to a complete stranger and start talking to them your instantly miles ahead of the competition.
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:27 PM
5

A few stories come to mind for myself. While I was working at a bowling alley as a cook/snack bar attendant I used to hit on/get hit on all the time. So this one girl came up and ordered some food, and we chatted for a bit before she went back to her friends. When her food was ready she came to pick it up, went over to get some condements, and made a mess all over my counter. I gave her some shit about it and we chatted a bit longer, and even ended up creating nicknames for each other. While she…
/r/seduction11/08/10 02:24 PM
2

Fuck yeah they do. Hell, I'm 21 and I still go to the mall to game. Its a different type of game. Your less likely to find the casual fling, but the place is target rich, and the girls aren't getting hit on as much as they are at the bar.
/r/seduction11/08/10 01:57 PM
3

Number closing girls at work is difficult. They talk to a lot of people every day, and often times they flirt just for the extra tips. They also get hit on a lot (often times by 'creepers', which makes them extra cautious of every guy that tries hitting on them). That being said its not impossible, just difficult. The first problem is that you often don't talk to them long enough to build any kind of rapport. They may be talking to you, but to them your just some other customer. You need to brea…
/r/seduction11/08/10 01:46 PM
2

I tell her ill give her a call tomorrow and ask whatsup, and we could chill if she isn't busy. If you told her you would call her, then call her. Make it a casual meeting (Do not use the word 'date'!), just ask if she wants to meet over coffee/drinks. If she agree's then great, go out with her. If drinks go well suggest that the two of you continue the 'date' (once again, try to avoid this word on day 1!) elsewhere. If she says she's busy, don't allow it to 'break' your frame. Just ask her if sh…
/r/seduction11/08/10 01:21 PM
1

A lot of clubs will do a 16/18+ night once a week. It gives them the chance to pull in a different customer base, and create future customers.
/r/seduction11/08/10 01:09 PM
2

You sound like your doing alright with the text game. I'd just drop it at that last message, then shoot her a text again in a few days inviting her out to go for a ride. I'm sure you're going to get a lot of hate around here because she 'has a boyfriend', but it almost sounds like that might just be her playing hard to get. Even if the boyfriend turns out to be legit, she can still be a great friend/bike partner/wing woman.
/r/seduction11/08/10 01:06 PM
2

If you think her mobile number hasn't changed just send her a text(Facebook works to, I just prefer phones), something along the lines of 'Hey, I left town before you got to buy me that drink. Let me know if you make it to townX (You didn't specify), I'll show you around town.' Honestly doesn't matter much what you say, just make sure you show interest in seeing her again.
/r/seduction11/08/10 12:56 PM
1

Any tips for getting a little closer? Kino! Once you get close to her you will quickly figure out where you stand. Have I already screwed this one up, and should just forget about it? Only if you worry too much about it. She's just one of millions of women that could be in your life, so why worry so much about this 'one'? I'm not sure how attractive she sees me, but I see myself as attractive so I figure that's good enough for me. Good confidence! Best advise I can give is to just invite her som…
/r/seduction11/08/10 12:50 PM
1

PUA stuff is all about motivation. If it motivates you to go out, talk to people, and work on improving yourself, then yes it works (quite well). On the other hand if it motivates you to stay inside, read books, and watch video's, then no it wont work. As for myself it motivated me to loose over 50 pounds, put on a good deal of muscle, improved my style, improved my social skills (Because I went out and talked to people!), and over all improved MANY aspects of my life because I gained confidence…
/r/seduction11/08/10 12:44 PM
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Or simply go to the bars/clubs/libraries around the college. Smart girls need to get out of the house eventually.
/r/seduction10/08/10 04:21 PM
1

Trust me, the scary rush of asking her out - even if she politely declines - will be way better than the sick feeling of regret if you fail to act and let this pass you by. Enjoy the endorphin rush while it lasts. After a fistful of approaches you lose it, and its no longer something to be afraid of!
/r/seduction10/08/10 02:14 PM
2

Talk to everyone you meet. Talk to the person at the gas pump next to you, talk to the person trying to pick their drink, talk to the person behind you in line, and talk to the clerk working the counter. Doesn't matter if all your 'hey, whats up?' gets met with a cold stare in response. Whats important is that you get used to talking to people, and realize that the worst response you'll get is simply no response.
/r/seduction10/08/10 02:06 PM
1

the Android app is fantastic Agreed!
/r/seduction10/08/10 01:33 PM
1

I walked past, did the "head over the shoulder" sideways approach, and opened, "oh no, did your friends abandon you?" I got shot down immediately with a Bitch Shield, an icy stare with "No I'm fine by myself." Ouch. She probably took it as a neg? Exactly. You need to be careful with openers because you dont have any rapport yet so you have to be selective in how you say things. I would have went with something more like 'You look lonely sitting over here all by yourself'. When/if she says no you…
/r/seduction10/08/10 02:21 AM
1

You're the source of the fun; you're in control of the frame. If they're not down with that, they can fuck off. When I was going through the stylelife 30 day challenge (only made it 10-15 days before I got distracted) I remember one of the first 'assignments' was to write down what you were looking for in a girl, and qualify girls based on those stipulations. That one really made me think because previously I had never thought about exactly what I wanted. I decided that one of the things I wante…
/r/seduction10/08/10 02:05 AM
2

OKCupid has worked pretty well for me. When it comes to the 'I don't want to play games' I just take that as their way of saying I don't want all that HS drama. Best way to get a meeting with girls on there is to send them a message about something in their profile. Add a question in there, to something that makes it easy for her to respond. After that just go back and forth a few times, making her qualify herself (I found the 'What are your three best qualities, and you cant say your looks' wor…
/r/seduction09/08/10 08:05 PM
1

But I usually offer to buy it for 50 cents. Wrong? I wouldnt call it wrong per say, but I wouldnt offer the 50 cents right away (means your expecting failure). Just ask for the cig, then if they give you shit just pull the money out of your pocket and hand it to them (Dont ask if they want the money, just give it to them). But it was late and almost closing time and insufficient time to work her. Sounds like the perfect opportunity for the apocalypse opener. But I'm only saying that because I ha…
/r/seduction09/08/10 08:00 PM
1

Exactly. The opener doesn't matter. If I cant think of anything clever to open with I just use my fall-back 'Hey guys, hows it going' then just run on from there. The opener is just a way to get into a set without getting blown out. Past that it all comes down to how you handle the conversation, etc. edit: Typo
/r/seduction09/08/10 07:55 PM
1

I'll take a look at it tonight after class. I always enjoy watching people in action. Helps motivate me to get out, and gives me opportunity to brainstorm how I would handle situations (which is also why I love reading FR's)
/r/seduction09/08/10 07:52 PM
3

The buying of a drink could be taken as Beta, but the fact that you took her hand, and led her through the bar would be 'alpha'. In my opinion the Alpha move (Isolation) overstates the Beta move (buying of the drink), but over all it doesn't matter as long as it all ends in your favor, and more importantly that your having fun.
/r/seduction09/08/10 07:51 PM
1

I have been expirementing with it for awhile now, with mixed results. I've never had someone come out and comment on it, but sometimes I wrap it up as one of my routines that I use early on. The girl's I've asked have all been indecisive about it (Bad sign? I usually use it after I have some attraction, so they don't want to say it looks bad). I had one girl say it's more of a 'cowboy' look, but she said I managed to pull it off. Over all its not going to make or break anything, and its an inter…
/r/seduction09/08/10 06:47 PM
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Couple responses I think of off the top of my head.. Playful with a neg: 'Was going good till a minute ago' Qualifier: 'Looking for something exciting, thought I'd give you a chance' Or one I just use when I dont really care/tired of being at work: 'Another day, another dollar' Finally one I used while I was in Vegas quite a bit: 'I still have both my kidneys so I must be doing something right!'
/r/seduction09/08/10 05:18 AM
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There were a few points during pauses in the display that we looked into each other's eyes, and I think I could have gone in for a kiss. You should have went for the kiss. I agree all the friends/acquaintances can make it awkward, but just go in for a real quick kiss, then pull back saying something like 'Thats all you get for now' then motion at all the 'spectators'. She'll understand and even respect you for it.
/r/seduction08/08/10 04:18 PM
1

DO NOT DRINK I can not agree more. As much as I love drinking I have found that I am much better at gaming when I'm sober. A drink or two usually doesnt hurt, but I still find sober game works out much better.
/r/seduction08/08/10 04:01 PM
2

Awesome. I've been wanting to try the apocalypse opener for a few weeks now but I haven't been out at a bar/club for awhile. Sounds like you ran the apocalypse opener early in the night. Everything I've heard about it sounded like you wanted to run it later in the night, closer to closing time. That way the girls left in the club are more likely to be single, and not doing anything later that night as they would (most likely) already be gone.
/r/seduction08/08/10 03:40 PM
1

Too true
/r/seduction08/08/10 12:45 AM
60

The girl needs to earn your attraction, not the other way around. This basically switched my entire game from me trying to win then over, to making them try to win me over. I no longer show interest early. Instead I just display myself as an awesome person and make them do the work.
/r/seduction08/08/10 12:25 AM
1

I have set-up web-servers/Wiki's before, but I do not have the resources/money to set one up for the general public. If there is enough interest, and someone is willing to provide the resources (money) I could do the work.
/r/seduction04/08/10 03:29 PM
1

I had a friend who used to carry a card in his pocket that read something like "I think your cute but I'm too shy to talk to you. If you want to meet a nice guy, ask the bartender where this card came from and come have a drink with me" (Its been a few years sense I've seen it). The text reads like the guy is a total chump, which was the idea. When the girl asked who it came from (She almost always does), the bartender would point to my friend who was 6'2, had tattoo's, and was usually the loude…
/r/seduction04/08/10 03:26 PM
0

This actually sounds like a MUCH better idea. Needs more upboats!
/r/seduction04/08/10 03:19 PM
5

I don't think she was specifically looking for you at all. You both just happened to meet at a club that you both attend semi-regularly. It doesn't matter if she cant salsa dance at a 'salsa club'. Hell, I go to bowling alleys and I cant bowl worth shit. Besides that, I believe you already shot yourself in the foot 2 years ago with how you handled everything. Forget about her, its a lost cause.
/r/seduction04/08/10 03:18 PM
6

Rings don't plug holes.
/r/seduction04/08/10 04:10 AM
0

Exactly. Personally I make it a habit to always kiss on the first date. It shows the girl your intentions, also keeps you out of the friend zone. The whole point of a first date is to see if the two of you are 'compatible', and the first kiss is the ultimate test in my opinion. Besides if she is to much of a 'good girl' to kiss on the first date chances are the two of us wont work out (I'm far from a 'nice guy')
/r/seduction03/08/10 11:53 AM
1

Everything above. Alcohol also helps! Not saying to get her drunk/take advantage. Just enough to loose some inhibitions. Girl's will naturally be cautious of sleeping with someone she lives with because she's afraid of it becoming awkward. If you can somehow alleviate that worry in her head it will help you out immensely.
/r/seduction03/08/10 11:32 AM
1

Where about? I usually go out in the EP/Burnsville/Shako area.
/r/seduction03/08/10 05:38 AM
2

Maybe you should take different friends sarging? I hate responses like this. He was out on a road trip, not specifically out to sarge.
/r/seduction02/08/10 10:18 PM
1

Another repost from my thread.. suburb of the twin cities. Started about a year ago, honestly don't remember what got me started. I think I read 'The game' and just went from there. I got a handful of number closes when I worked at a local bowling alley, kiss-close from ok-cupid within my first week. I was to busy with work/school previously to do anything serious.
/r/seduction31/07/10 12:54 AM
1

MN 21 in the south-western burbs
/r/seduction31/07/10 12:46 AM
2

Try it sometime, they love it.
/r/seduction29/07/10 10:03 AM
5

OP never said he is seeing the girl. From what it sounds like is their just friends who happen to make out a lot (hence the 'I don't sleep with friends'). What your suggesting would probably work, I just believe the freeze out will work better.
/r/seduction29/07/10 09:54 AM
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OP isn't seeing the girl either. I believe a freeze out will work magic here. Get her worked up, but once she turns you down just get up to do something, then come back and don't re-initiate. If you got her hot enough she should be the one to get things going again, and then your golden.
/r/seduction29/07/10 09:49 AM
5

OP isn't seeing the girl either. I believe a freeze out will work magic here. Get her worked up, but once she turns you down just get up to do something, then come back and don't re-initiate. If you got her hot enough she should be the one to get things going again, and then your golden.
/r/seduction29/07/10 09:48 AM
2

Next time you see her just strike up a conversation, then at a high point in the conversation just ask her if she would like to go out for coffee sometime (or something else casual/quick).
/r/seduction29/07/10 09:41 AM
1

Personally I left my income blank, but I made a few comments about what I do for a living. That way they know that I'm not making minimum wage, but they dont know an exact figure.
/r/seduction28/07/10 06:57 AM
3

Defeats the purpose of a field report.
/r/seduction28/07/10 03:19 AM
1

Ask her to go to some not so well known place in your town tomorrow before she leaves (time bridge). Only then should you ask for the number, and ask her to be your tour guide in her city.
/r/seduction26/07/10 06:31 AM
1

I agree.
/r/seduction26/07/10 06:21 AM
2

Approach her next time you see her, talk to her. Get as much 'gaming' done as you can, and make sure you get her number before you part ways. While your with her talk about possible things the two of you can do together (without ever mentioning the two of you doing it together). Find whatever excites her the most and invite her to out, just the two of you.
/r/seduction26/07/10 06:18 AM
1

One thing you forgot to mention that I thought of today is how to sent the initial message, ad how to follow through with it. When reading the original OkCupid post I got a general idea on how I should do the message, but after a few people I think I got the hang of it. The first message should show no direct interest (with some exceptions, described below). My first message is always something related to whats in their profile. I'll make some comment about something they wrote, and ask them som…
/r/seduction26/07/10 06:12 AM
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That one actually happened by pure chance. I was talking to this girl that lived close to me (she rated me 4 stars), and I told her I wanted to meet up with her before I went to Vegas (Time constraint/DHV) Turns out she was going to Vegas a few days before me and we decided we should meet up while in Vegas
/r/seduction26/07/10 05:50 AM
1

Aye, OkCupid is a great tool. I signed up last week after that post and I've already met one girl, and might meet another one in Vegas while I'm down there.
/r/seduction25/07/10 05:55 PM
4

I agree. I enjoy reading people's field reports, and its a great way to help yourself re-think a night and see what you did good, and what you could have done better! I'm definitely going to start posting field reports more often.
/r/seduction25/07/10 05:28 PM
7

The difference is where your looking. The stare is just looking at them, where as eye contact you are looking DIRECTLY into their eyes.
/r/seduction25/07/10 04:02 AM
2

Kino does work everywhere, you just need to be careful how much you use, and how you use it. In a bar/club you can get a lot more touchy/personal with it. During the day on the other hand I'd stick with more casual kino, such as on the elbow/shoulder as opposed to the upper/lower back.
/r/seduction24/07/10 06:13 PM
1

Negs are for taking women off a pedestal Exactly. They are un-needed once you 'de-throne' them.
/r/seduction24/07/10 06:03 PM
1

Also, Shots definitely knows her stuff. I'm not as convinced as you are. She may know some stuff, but she is far from great.
/r/seduction23/07/10 07:16 AM
1

No, the problem is he put himself in a serious beta position in his post description. He has some serious inner game things to worry about before he even needs to think about seducing anyone.
/r/seduction23/07/10 07:01 AM
1

Let me ask you the same question I ask all PUA gurus, If you could give guys one piece of advice for attracting women, a 'magic bullet' if you will, what would it be? I too would be interested in hearing your (shots) answer to this.
/r/seduction23/07/10 06:39 AM
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It asumes every girl that is a HB is wired the same and the same tricks are going to work. If that is the case why do some people have to open so many sets, and why are we all not posting successful field reports. The minor details will vary with every girl, and thats why calibration is so damned important. But the big picture is the same. You need some sort of opener that isn't going to put the girls on edge (Including false time constraints), then you have all the rapport/comfort/attraction bu…
/r/seduction23/07/10 06:35 AM
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watch the group for a minute first. Are they giggling, grinding with each other, and taking tons of photos? Leave them alone. They're just 'out with the girls' and they aren't looking to be approached. Waiting and observing is actually a bad idea here, for a couple reasons. First of all it gives guys too much time to get up in their head. They will start making excuses that they should approach because the girls 'dont want to be approached'. You shouldnt be worried about them and if they want to…
/r/seduction23/07/10 06:28 AM
2

I'll be in Vegas the 28th, few days too late to go out with you. I had plans to go to some of the clubs at The Palms, and a whole lot of sarging on the strip. Let me know how Vegas treats you!
/r/seduction20/07/10 11:42 AM
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cook it with her FTFY
/r/seduction20/07/10 05:47 AM
2

I agree, I do most of my work outside of the bar/club scene. Most people at work are happy to have someone to talk to, and you can easily tell when its on. Problem is depending on their job you may not have enough time to build enough rapport to ask for the date on the spot. With a cashier for example you only have about 2 minutes tops to talk to them. If thats the case I'll just frequent the place a few times and talk to them every time before asking them for a date. Although you have to make s…
/r/seduction20/07/10 05:46 AM
1

I agree with iamfrombarcelona, you need to start using more kino. Proper Kino will let a girl know your intentions, and help you progress in the right direction.
/r/seduction18/07/10 05:50 PM
2

You should have just started to ignore her and went off to talk to some attractive girl you saw. Dont take their shit when girls do something like that. If they stop paying attention to you, you stop paying attention to them.
/r/seduction18/07/10 12:36 PM
1

I agree $100 is a big deal, which is exactly why you shouldn't make it a big deal. Besides you said she came over with friends, Which means there is a good chance that some of those friends also donated as well. Her actual contribution was probably closer to $20-$50. Although I guess it matters how much you guys drank/ate. I mean if you only drank a case of beer (about $20) then I'd say something and give her back part of the cash. On the other hand if you guys drank upwards of $100 then I'd def…
/r/seduction18/07/10 12:26 PM
1

Dont make a big deal about the money. Just keep it and move on.
/r/seduction18/07/10 12:02 PM
1

If your just looking for a place to download material get yourself an invite to Baconbits. It has a rather impressive collection.
/r/seduction14/07/10 06:34 PM
1

How exactly do you go about getting that discount?
/r/seduction14/07/10 02:30 AM
1

I like it. I'm gonna give it a try next time Im at the bar.
/r/seduction13/07/10 06:14 PM
1

I have yet to find a wing who has balls :-/ I feel your pain. Been trying to find a decent wing for awhile now.
/r/seduction12/07/10 04:32 PM
3

How do I pull a number? It just seems fucking impossible. Just ask for it. Its easy once you get used to it.
/r/seduction12/07/10 07:56 AM
2

I started with StrongLifts 5x5, definitely a good program. I started over the winter/spring sometime and I'm now 50 pounds lighter, and can do body weight squats.
/r/seduction12/07/10 07:34 AM
1

You got a case of the Oneitis. Google it. Best cure is to simply get more women in your life so you stop getting obsessed with one particular girl.
/r/seduction11/07/10 12:23 PM
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1) Get alcohol 2) Play Truth or Dare 3) ?????? 4) Three-some!
/r/seduction10/07/10 07:54 PM
1

There's a difference between being that guy on the dance floor, and the guy break dancing. When your just out there dancing it shows more that you just want to have fun. Break dancing on the other hand comes off as try hard.
/r/seduction09/07/10 03:27 AM
0

Super fly
/r/seduction09/07/10 03:22 AM
1

Honestly, what you read doesn't matter half as much as actually going out there and talking to people. That being said I would recommend reading The Mystery Method, and then some books to help you with any sticking points (I had to read about phone game, and The Escalation ladder). Also Neil Strauss's Rule's of the Game is a good 30 day challenge that gets you out there talking to people (which is more important than reading anything!).
/r/seduction07/07/10 12:27 AM
1

Honestly I'm excited for the day I get called out. I think you initially handled it well, but I would have stuck around instead of ejecting so quickly. You could have continued the conversation by talking about the game, and asking her where she heard about it, and what made her read it. "Hi guys [pause]. I want a female opinion on something [go into is kissing cheating]" As for your 'new' opener there is still one small thing I would change. Instead of saying 'I want a female opinion', simply s…
/r/seduction04/07/10 01:36 AM
1

I live by the following rule: No apologies, no regrets, no exceptions. You can not change the past, you can only live in the present and shape the future.
/r/seduction02/07/10 08:30 PM
1

More calibration that anything. Best way to learn is to keep touching people and learn what works and what doesn't. Also your personal frame plays a huge part in how people feel about kino. If you feel comfortable touching random people, then there's a good chance they will be as well.
/r/seduction02/07/10 08:28 PM
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This is good advise. You need to build up the kino to the point of the kiss. The DiCarlo Escalation Ladder is good at providing you clear steps on how you should be escalating. Also.. Quit thinking about it, and just do it!
/r/seduction02/07/10 08:23 PM
3

I have been working in kitchens for 6 years and this is VERY true.
/r/seduction02/07/10 08:13 PM
1

Running game as the host of the party makes it both easy, and more difficult at the same time. Because its your party, you have amazing value for that night. There is no need for you to DHV because everyone already knows your the man. And sense everyone is either your friend, or a stranger, everyone wants to talk to you. That leads me into the downside of hosting. Sense your the host, your going to be talking to everyone, and be busy doing a lot of 'party stuff'. When your so busy it becomes dif…
/r/seduction02/07/10 08:12 PM
3

I would actually recommend a phone call. That way if he knows if she's ignoring him, or just doesn't have a phone yet. Not to mention its always better to call.
/r/seduction30/06/10 08:56 PM
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I never do the Facebook close. When they offer the Facebook I'll use that to neg them (and display that I just lost all interest (because I really dislike Facebook)), then Ill (kindly) eject shortly thereafter. Sometimes this has led to them offering me a phone number (which I'll take depending on how much I actually like the girl. The attempt at a Facebook deflection is a major DLV on her part).
/r/seduction29/06/10 03:20 AM
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I uploaded it to megaupload for you guys. Enjoy! Edit: 2 years after writing this I still get messages asking me for the book. So I went and re-uploaded it for you guys here. Enjoy!
/r/seduction27/06/10 10:27 PM
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Tyler Durden has a book about 'text game' (I believe its called 'the ultimate guide to texting'. I can upload it if you have problems finding it). Its a short and easy read. My text game is terrible, but that book has helped me realize why I sucked. Now I can work on it!
/r/seduction27/06/10 09:01 PM
1

Just give her a call, and set up a date (something short/casual). Don't let the phone call last to long (5 minutes should be long enough to make plans).
/r/seduction27/06/10 12:25 PM
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Mono sucks, but I wouldnt cut your losses. Think of this as a way to practice your phone game. Let the ladies know that your sick. Who knows, you might get one of them to bring you some soup! (although you should warn them that your probably contagious)
/r/seduction27/06/10 12:22 PM
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Honestly I don't understand why people have to hate so much. Don't even think about the age gap. If your worried she will shoot you down because of your age, she will (She'll sense it, and it will blow up in your face. Frame control is key!). As I already posted, Eye contact will be the best place to start. With one good look she should know your intentions. Watch her reaction when she realized it, and play it from there.
/r/seduction27/06/10 12:18 PM
3

I am proud to say I can use the 'I fucked your sister' card.
/r/seduction27/06/10 12:12 PM
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Proper eye contact is a great way to let her know your intentions, without having to say it.
/r/seduction26/06/10 06:11 PM
1

Talk to people, don't be awkward!
/r/seduction25/06/10 03:58 PM
6

You probably still have a chance, but I must warn you.. When you work somewhere that you make tips, you make it a habit to flirt with everyone (It makes you better tips!) Where I work I have been caught flirting with clearly un-attractive girls before just because I wanted that extra tip.
/r/seduction25/06/10 03:57 PM
1

AH ha, I see
/r/seduction25/06/10 02:20 AM
1

Everyone seems to miss the fact that she give him the number without him asking..!
/r/seduction25/06/10 01:57 AM
2

Honestly, you probably could have fucked her, but you didnt screw anything up by not doing it. As far as the 4th is concerned I wouldnt 'wait' till the end of the night to try to make anything happen. Flirt/kino/escilate with her all night (along with other girls!). And quit thinking too much about the future. You got what you did partially becasue you wernt thinking you were gonna hook up with her, and therefor you were detached from the outcome! As Sublomino said, appreciate what you already g…
/r/seduction23/06/10 06:52 PM
1

When I was walking down the street and hb's were walking by..sometimes I caught the glance late..or decided too late that I wanted this hb and it put me in a dilemma. Don't think if you want to open them, just do it! Your there for practice/fun, so why not open every person?
/r/seduction23/06/10 06:41 PM
1

If their interested, they will stop. Or you can always move with them (staying slightly ahead, looking back to talk to them. Not following!)
/r/seduction23/06/10 06:40 PM
1

Exactly. Just do it, don't worry about what she will think! You need to be a lot more forward during day game as you don't have all night to 'game' them.
/r/seduction23/06/10 06:39 PM
2

I agree with this post. Also, you are WAY to concerned about having sex with her. You are attached to the outcome, which any 'quality' woman will sense and it will completely destroy your game. Quit worrying about whats going to happen, and just enjoy it as it comes!
/r/seduction23/06/10 06:38 PM
1

Its a personal rule of mine to never give away my number unless were exchanging numbers. I don't like putting the ball in their quart, and I have a tendency not to answer phone numbers I don't know so there is always the chance that I'd simply ignore their call. but if you dont transition to real convo it will seem a bit weird if you left it at that if you make a move later. Of course, the conversation after the opener is more important than the actual opener.
/r/seduction22/06/10 05:26 PM
1

The number led to one of those 'psychiatrist hot lines' so it was definitely given out on purpose. I actually got a good laugh out of it when I called it, because I wasn't expecting it and got caught by total surprise.
/r/seduction22/06/10 05:18 PM
2

Care to explain why?
/r/seduction22/06/10 04:24 PM
1

Baconbitz has the best PUA related torrent I have found yet, but its mostly PDF's and a few audio files. If you get your hands on the mystery revelation torrent, please, share the wealth!
/r/seduction22/06/10 03:42 PM
2

When I thought of this I was thinking there was a good chance I would get called out, so I had already planned for it. When they do call me out, I would just own up to it and use it to my advantage, something like "Hah, your good. In fact, I'm going to start calling you Sherlock." (Give one of her friends the nickname of 'Watson' as well) or "Hah, guilty as charged. (Hold hands up as if your offering to be hand cuffed) Looks like your gonna have to take me down to the station"
/r/seduction22/06/10 03:39 PM
1

Working taxi actually made me wonder if it is even possible, hence this post, so I try to unlock this achievement. "Slept with that 9HB customer: Achievement unlocked" hahaha. I now have one more achievement to add to my list.. You're going to have the best luck when your gaming single sets, or small groups of all girls. ASD plays a huge part when trying to game a group while working. I know the hardest part for myself is getting the girl to the point where she can think of me as a partner, as o…
/r/seduction22/06/10 03:29 PM
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If you havnt known her long, then I usually respond with something like "Woah girl, slow down. I barely even know you/dont even know your name!" On the other hand if its after a few dates then your best off answering truthfully.
/r/seduction22/06/10 02:56 PM
1

Its a great idea, as long as you don't do it the wrong way. I game every customer where I work (male and female) because it helps me get much better tips than anyone else. Although when I'm gaming at work I'm not trying to build any sexual attraction (typically), instead I'm just trying to make them think of me as 'That awesome/fun guy that works here'. It all comes down to making the customer enjoy their time talking to you.
/r/seduction22/06/10 02:48 PM
1

I guess it depends on where you drive your taxi. If your main customer base is people coming/going to bars, then striking up a conversation should be easy. On the other hand I would imagine it could be much more difficult if your somewhere like NY (I imagine the customer base would be 'buisness folk'). In either case you just need to strike up a 'casual' conversation with them. You dont want them to think your flirting, but that you simply like talking to everyone (which you should be doing if y…
/r/seduction22/06/10 02:44 PM
2

The only 'game' like this I've used is when I get up from the bar to do something (bathroom, smoke, phone, etc) I'll ask some girl sitting close to save my seat (one I've opened, but havnt spent a ton of time 'gaming'). When I come back I'll start talking to my friends or whoever to make sure she notices I'm back, but I wont take the chair I had her save for me. This leaves her sitting there with a chair wondering why you didnt come back and take it. When you see her later that night you can giv…
/r/seduction20/06/10 06:40 PM
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This is a great technique to get her comfortable being at your place. As for getting her back to your place after the date I would stick with the movie/balcony view. Using booze as the reason to bring her back to your place will give her the wrong idea. Also just a quick warning, Mexican food + rocking motions could cause some.. 'problems'. You probably don't need to worry about it, but its always a possibility!
/r/seduction20/06/10 06:31 PM
3

This was posted on /r/sex awhile ago. Should help you out a bit.
/r/seduction18/06/10 07:19 AM
3

but please no advice that says "just don't worry about it" Your over thinking it. Don't ask around if she's single at a party, thats total AFC behavior. Flirt with her, and see where it goes. If she has a significant other, she will tell you (or not, in which case she is looking to upgrade). As for the Facebook thing, its normal for people to look over other people's photo's/status/etc. Just don't bring it up, as if your using it to start a conversation. For example if she has a dog, don't start…
/r/seduction16/06/10 10:39 PM
0

Exactly
/r/seduction16/06/10 10:29 PM
1

I work at a bowling alley/bar and I too think this is a great idea.
/r/seduction16/06/10 05:38 AM
1

Its possible to kino absolute strangers as well as long as your careful about where you touch. Slight touch to the elbow when asking a question is usually acceptable, or a lightly placing your hand on their upper arm right before getting their attention hasn't caused me any awkwardness yet. Find that guy that touches people regularly, and observe him. Kino all comes down to calibration, body language, and frame control.
/r/seduction16/06/10 05:27 AM
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True. Being from America myself that's where all my experience comes from. Its extremely easy to touch people here, so when people say 'Its not right to touch people' I instantly think their just making an excuse. I always forget about the cultural differences.
/r/seduction15/06/10 05:34 PM
2

I wear a Fedora. But I only wear it with specific outfits, or days when I'm to lazy/busy to properly style my hair (with the proper outfit. The hat looks try-hard if it doesn't fit the outfit.)
/r/seduction15/06/10 04:44 PM
2

Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.
/r/seduction15/06/10 04:42 PM
1

Simply saying thanks isn't enough though. She put herself out there giving you the complement, and simply responding with a 'thanks' is just to short, and puts you in a position lower than her (She is giving you something, and your simply 'taking' it).
/r/seduction15/06/10 04:41 PM
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You can kino in every situation, you just need to calibrate it correctly for each environment. For example at work I often gently touch people on the back or shoulder when I'm walking past (Behind/around) them so they know I'm there and don't suddenly back into me. If your making them feel uncomfortable you are doing it wrong, and need to change where/how your touching them.
/r/seduction15/06/10 04:16 PM
2

Normally Im not a huge fan of using facebook, but I believe in this situation its actually a good idea. Look her up and just send her a message saying you should get together and catch up some time.
/r/seduction15/06/10 02:29 PM
1

I tried a gimmick I had learned trying to get her phone number but it did not work. Im curious what 'gimmick' you used. Going for the phone number can be touchy, and its easy to mess this part up. I know I fucked up on this twice last weekend.
/r/seduction15/06/10 02:17 PM
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First, and most importantly, you must kino! Touching is a huge factor in building attraction. You should be touching them the minute you get into the set, and continue touching the whole time! Once you pick your target you should escalate the kino with her. Give her some push/pull, etc. I cant help you with specific routines because I don't use them, I just wing it and see what happens. Eye contact is key for building attraction as well. It shows the girl your intentions without being to direct.…
/r/seduction15/06/10 02:06 PM
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Obviously you need to get a read on the person before you do this, and consider the setting. If she's a conservative girl, and your in a library, or work, this is obviously a bad idea. But if your at a party and the girl is having fun, then its most likely gonna be alright. I have done this many times with absolutely no problem. A lot of it comes down to how well you can play it off when she turns around and gives you that 'look'.
/r/seduction15/06/10 01:43 PM
1

"Wow, you seem like a busy girl. When do you get to relax, because it doesnt seem like you have any nights free" Gathering information early is a great trick when trying to plan dates. Even gathering small details about work can help you pick days (AM/PM shifts, work weekends). Although if the girl is interested enough, she will typically make a counter offer if she is genuinely busy the day you picked.
/r/seduction14/06/10 09:40 PM
1

Exactly. I was at work (I work at a bowling alley) and I had maybe 10 minutes of conversation with the target (over about an hour). She was loving the conversation, but I made the mistake of waiting till she was leaving with her friends before going for the number (should have went for it before she went back to her friends). I believe the fact that I was at work, and hadn't had the opportunity to talk to her friends at all triggered her ASD. I've been thinking about writing a field report for t…
/r/seduction14/06/10 04:18 AM
1

I found this one out first hand over the weekend. While at work I was flirting with two different customers, and when I went for the number close I got shot down by both, but I didn't care, I was having fun!
/r/seduction14/06/10 03:57 AM
3

Don't ask for her number in front of her friends!
/r/seduction13/06/10 12:43 PM
3

I had asked them in the vincity of everyone at the party. ASD would not let them do that. I made that same mistake last night when I was sarging at work. Asked this girl who was totally into me for her number, but didn't even think twice that I did it in front of her 3 friends she was with. She kindly declined, and it wasn't till 10 minutes later I realized the mistake I made. Oh well, live and learn. Good job working the room!
/r/seduction13/06/10 12:41 PM
2

and i go "do me a favor draw a picture so i remember what you look like". I love it. I'm going to start using that one.
/r/seduction13/06/10 12:30 PM
3

Where I didn't fare so well was when I was introduced to a group by someone else, even by a girl. All I could really blurt out was "Hi, I'm X.. I know Y through Z...". Any ideas for that too? When getting 'introduced' to sets, fuck the introduction. I just get in there with something simple like 'Hey guys, hows it going?' I never give them my name, or anything like that. Chances are they wont remember your name (their meeting a lot of people that night), and no one really cares who you know. The…
/r/seduction13/06/10 12:28 PM
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I feel like I should warn you. Its great that you and your roommate are (obviously) getting along well, but don't take it too far unless you are serious. If you allow her to get too emotionally attached (to you) it could make it extremely awkward to bring other girls back to your place while she's there. Then again if she's 'cool' with it, you guys could have a lot of fun with bringing girls back..
/r/seduction13/06/10 12:09 PM
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Forgetting a name is in a sense a false disqualifier - and therefore a DHV. So never be afraid to ask - but only if you were told in the first place! Exactly. I used to worry about forgetting names, but now I dont even think about it (I've even 'forgot' it on purpose). Once you get the number just ask her 'Whats your name again?' You (should be) meeting people all night, you cant be expected to remember every name. If she is interested in you she will tell you her name again before she even thin…
/r/seduction12/06/10 07:34 PM
4

Im willing to bet HB7 picked up on the fact that the mutual friend wanted you, and thats is why you lost her to 'Mr.Smooth'. When working sets like this you need to make it clear who your target is (after you defuse the friend of course). Many guys get to caught up with the friends, and end up loosing the target. Once a girl notices that one of her friends has interest in some guy, they (usually) let them have him (which is not what you wanted in this situation). So my advise to you is next time…
/r/seduction11/06/10 09:22 PM
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If their really good friends there's a chance they talked to each other about you. That means its a bad idea to text both girls with the same thing, unless its at the same time (mass text style).
/r/seduction11/06/10 04:55 AM
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"Haha, now there's a pick-up line i've never heard before. I bet you have a backpack full of bottles sitting just around the corner, huh?"
/r/seduction11/06/10 04:52 AM
3

I have to agree with this point. At the very least I would have told her she had to wait till morning because I wasn't going to leave my house again.
/r/seduction09/06/10 07:03 PM
2

Have an upvote!
/r/seduction09/06/10 06:31 PM
2

if you can't say anything polite, nip the conversation in the bud with a short comment, "Its complicated" I saw a post about using that, and believe me it has worked for me many times in the last week alone.
/r/seduction06/06/10 05:08 PM
1

I think your best chance here is to do what random_guy said and just invite her out to a social gathering. It doesn't matter if she knows anyone there, as long as she isn't a total introvert herself. I just want to point out that it is going to be harder to attract her now that your single. Before when you were in a LTR you were pre-selected, and you were something she couldn't have (which made her want it worse). Not saying it will be impossible, just be prepared for more effort than it may be …
/r/seduction06/06/10 01:23 PM
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i very much doubt it There's the self doubt showing up again! Take her up on the offer and see where it goes. Edit: Just read ComedyTragedy's post, and I agree with him. Take her out for drinks first. It will put you both at ease, and it gets you used to the 'date' scenario (even if it isnt a real date).
/r/seduction05/06/10 06:17 PM
1

If everyone's been drinking it should make everything easier (assuming your not too drunk!). First of all when the environment is to loud (or otherwise doesn't allow for conversation), eye contact is the magic maker (Link!). If you do it right, eye contact is all the conversation you need. From there you either walk up and start dancing + heavy kino, or motion for her to follow you somewhere more secluded to 'talk'. Someone else made a post similar to this over here, might be worth it for you to…
/r/seduction05/06/10 12:07 AM
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Everything has its own lingo, you just get used to it after awhile. This is a list of all the acronyms. And This is all the terminology. There is WAY more in those lists than I've ever seen used, but their nice reference guides if you ever need them. I just googled 'PUA lingo' and it was the top hit.
/r/seduction04/06/10 05:18 PM
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I read your comment right before I saw what you were talking about. Awesome.
/r/seduction04/06/10 01:40 AM
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The single most important thing is to meet people. Introduce yourself to everyone, stay high energy, and don't linger. Join a group of people, introduce yourself, converse briefly, then leave to the next group. If you do this properly, eventually people will start introducing you! Secondly, you have to drink. It is a college party, and I would be really surprised if there was no one drinking. Just make sure you don't drink too much. Times like this I like to stick to beers, because you can nurse…
/r/seduction03/06/10 07:39 PM
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I agree, having a girl help you cook presents you with a lot of great opportunities for kino. Drinking some wine (or other alcohol) while your cooking will make it more interesting for both of you, just make sure you don't get too drunk to properly handle a knife! I think a movie after dinner would be a great idea in this situation. Tell her to pick up a movie (rental) on her way to your place. This will give you plenty of time to get close all night.
/r/seduction03/06/10 12:55 AM
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Then how do you play your game? I'm just asking because if you really are getting that question a lot it has to be something with how you open. Also, if I were to ever get that question I would respond with 'No.. but you could' with a smile and some killer eye-contact (till she looks away).
/r/seduction02/06/10 05:38 AM
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Looking at the OP's user name, this is the perfect advice.
/r/seduction02/06/10 05:21 AM
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No girl on the planet will ever be made uncomfortable by you saying, "Gimme a hug!" when you first see her again after an absence. Not a one. This is absolutely true! Hell, a few days ago I partied with my ex-cousin (used to be related my marriage) and gave her a hug the minute I saw her with absolutely no awkwardness. Neither one of us had seen each other in probably 7 years (She's 17, Im 21), and I was able to initiate kino within the first 5 seconds. I didn't try running any game on her that …
/r/seduction02/06/10 05:19 AM
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What are some suggestions for a third date that won't end up where I'm sitting across from her and basically not able to touch her again. Mini-golf, Bowling, bar, basically anything besides dinner or anything that involves the word 'table' (unless its table dancing!). As for how to kino? Just do it! You've already waited too long, as it sounds like you haven't even touched her, and you've been on 2 dates! Next time just touch her! As intjpua says, touch everyone. The awkward-ness is just in your…
/r/seduction01/06/10 11:32 PM
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I had to google it, but I believe this is what he is talking about.. The campsite rule: at the end of the relationship, the elder partner should leave the younger in "better shape than they found them". This includes no diseases, no fertilized eggs, no undue emotional trauma, and whatever sexual education can be provided.
/r/seduction31/05/10 04:36 PM
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None of these points convey un-niceness The article is saying that many things 'AFC' guy's think is 'nice' is actually just them disqualifying themselves. Everything in that article I have heard time and time again in the PUA community. From the article: For some reason, you think “nice” means “completely devoid of sexual energy. No 'kino' When you say you’re trying to figure out “what women want,” you actually mean you’re trying to figure out what this one specific woman you’re friends with and…
/r/seduction30/05/10 02:51 AM
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Aye, its amazing the faces you get from some of those girls when you ignore them, or simply tell them no. Where I work I have to deal with a lot of snobby 'rich' girls a lot. They come up and demand something from me, and I simply respond with a 'no'. Most of them are completely taken back, and the look on their fice is priceless. Makes me wish I could just take pictures every time I did that to a girl. Its also a great way to shatter their bitch shield. Every girl I've done that to lightens up …
/r/seduction29/05/10 07:23 PM
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Grocery stores are great. Absolutely! I was at the grocery store the other day buying things to make Apple Pie (the drink), and started conversations with tons of girls in the 10 minutes I was there (and got 2 numbers!). They all seemed interested when they saw me with 4 gallons of apple juice/cider, cinnamon sticks, and 24 mason jars. Stop worrying about "rejection rate" and just have fun conversations. Exactly. Talk to everyone, everywhere, all the time! Once you start enough conversations it …
/r/seduction29/05/10 07:18 PM
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Knowing is half the battle!
/r/seduction29/05/10 07:09 PM
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Ending a text isn't that hard. Either just let the convo drop at a dead spot, or make a comment about how your going to do activity X, then drop it. Just make sure you're usually the one to end the conversation!
/r/seduction29/05/10 02:16 PM
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That sounds like it would be fun to try. Although I must admit I have tried the salt shaker thing on a few people, but most of them didn't fall for it. Probably has something to do with my delivery though. Let us know if it works!
/r/seduction26/05/10 03:59 PM
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Was giving me an error when I posted it and wasn't showing up, so it was an accident.
/r/seduction21/05/10 09:34 AM
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You can see him do it in this clip if you watch for it
/r/seduction21/05/10 12:05 AM
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I need to work on my text game a bit as well, which is probably why I usually decide to just call them. I'm great as long as I'm talking, but when I text I don't throw in enough fluff/flirt.
/r/seduction19/05/10 06:20 PM
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I like to shoot them a text later that night if we didn't exchange numbers. As in I got her number and that's it. That way she gets your number into her phone, so she will remember you later. I agree that the 'Did you make it home alright' is a little AFC. I like to tease them with the text, with something I teased her with when we were talking if possible.
/r/seduction19/05/10 05:33 PM
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Like Tactics said, just do it! Personally Im not a huge fan texting, so I just call the girls. Give her a call, ask her to do something with you (I prefer Wednesday/Thursday because then your not competing with her weekend plans). If she goes for it, great. If she says she cant do something one day because she is busy, and suggests doing something another time I just ask her 'Whats next week looking like for you? I still have a few days available'. If she just says 'No, I'm busy' with no suggest…
/r/seduction19/05/10 04:40 PM
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First of all I need to say this; MAny work placed frown upon employee's exchanging numbers with customers (I know this because I have gotten in trouble for this before) That doesn't mean it wont happen, just means your going to have to be extra good, and perhaps subtle about it so some random manager doesn't know you just got her number. After all that shit, really all it comes down to is breaking her out of her normal routine. Most people that work service jobs just do their jobs mindlessly, an…
/r/seduction19/05/10 01:47 AM
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Apocalypse opener.
/r/seduction17/05/10 11:54 PM
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You dont want to sound like your hung up over her. Making some off comment in the middle of a story is alright 'This girl I used to date had this cutest little dog just like that! You better not be some sort of crazy 'pet' thief. I dont want you coming to my house if your gonna steal my cats!' (continue talking about your cats. Later mention she should come see them), but saying something like 'me and my ex just broke up' or something similar will make you look pathetic (like your not over her. …
/r/seduction17/05/10 11:06 PM
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Good read, I enjoyed it. Good job getting out and just talking to everyone, that really is the first step. I actually have a slightly related story about the cop. I used to live downtown above a bar (I know.. If only I knew then what I know now..), and one night I got pulled over by a cop literally outside my front door (I was going to park a block away in the 24 hour parking). She asked me the usual 20 questions which involved 'Are you drunk/high/etc..' which I wasn't. But then she asked me 'Th…
/r/seduction13/05/10 06:40 AM
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Depending on what exactly your trying to social engineer, /r/netsec would probably be a good place to start. You can apply some seduction material to the topic of Social engineering, but this is by no means the best place to start.
/r/seduction12/05/10 06:02 AM
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Larger than 4- I agree, it's much more difficult to hold the attention of a group of more than 4 people. However, the plus side is a large group is that the group members also have trouble keeping track of each other in such a large group Groups larger than 4 are not anything to be afraid of. You will never gain the attention of the entire group, but that's okay, because you don't have to. Enter the set near some people you believe it will be easy to get some conversation going with. There are u…
/r/seduction11/05/10 04:19 AM
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You can ALWAYS make eye contact. If your talking to them, you should be looking at them!
/r/seduction11/05/10 03:53 AM
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My problems were glaring and obvious and anyone could have said "dude, you're doing this, cut it out" Most people are too bust trying to figure out their own problems and issues to spend their time helping others. Also many people are to afraid themselves to point out anything someone else is doing wrong, because they don't want to be seen as 'that guy'. Pointing out problems like that in others takes some serious balls, or you need to know that person REALLY well. Honestly how would you take it…
/r/seduction09/05/10 12:24 PM
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70% of the 2 sets That statement makes my brain hurt... That being said.. Just get the 'quiet' girl involved in the conversation. Direct questions twords her, make off hand comments in her general direction (don't worry, I wont bite.. Unless you ask nicely), anything to try to get her to speak up. Keep trying to get her involved any way possible. If you have a wing this is a good job for him. Otherwise just work on merging sets, so your target see's more people having a good time. That will also…
/r/seduction08/05/10 04:07 PM
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Learn to make people like/trust/believe you. When doing social engineering over the phone it all comes down to sounding confident. You can have all the names/lingo figured out, but if you don't sound confident they wont believe you are who you say (which you obviously aren't). Social engineering in person comes down to looking like you belong there, which again comes down to confidence. No one is nervous walking into work to do what their supposed to be doing! That being said, this is in the wro…
/r/seduction06/05/10 03:03 PM
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I dont work there again till the weekend (They cut hours during the summer) but Ill try it out next weekend and let you know how it goes.
/r/seduction04/05/10 02:36 PM
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My favorite line is when Im at work and I need a girl to sign her recipt for the credit card.. "Im going to need your autograph, in case you get famous."
/r/seduction04/05/10 07:25 AM
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It has worked enough times to make it worth using it again. Cant say an exact number, but easily more than 10 times (in the 6 months I've worked there). I believe the reason it works so well is because we don't need to change venue's for there to be something to do. For example if I worked at some other restaurant, and we had to physically move to a bowling alley (or anything else) it wouldn't work nearly as well (they don't know/trust me well enough to switch venue's with me yet). And bowling i…
/r/seduction03/05/10 10:31 PM
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To be clear, I'm not looking for any kind of real relationship or anything, just maybe some company until graduation/possibly a few sleepovers (does that make me a horrible person?). Not at all. Hell, she may very well be looking for the same thing. You both know each other are graduating soon, and going your separate ways, yet she still gave you her number. Just give her a call and invite her out for a date(Just like any other girl), and just see where things go. Even if it doesn't turn sexual …
/r/seduction03/05/10 04:24 AM
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I try to avoid over the top things such as super, fantastic, amazing. To me it just seems like people who respond like that are either crazy, or faking it (of course this is just my personal experience). I usually use words like good, alright, bored, great, excited. Then I continue on to give them a short (!) explanation why, and use that to provoke a further conversation. For example today at work I had a customer ask me 'How are you doing?' My response was "I'm doing good. I'm getting off soon…
/r/seduction03/05/10 04:20 AM
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As a matter of fact, I now realize exactly what I could have done I always think back on most (every) interaction I have with people, and think of what I could have done better, and what could have gone worse. It is probably one of the best things I have done, because when you know where you are failing, you can push yourself to fix it next time. When you start picking apart things like this you become more aware of things as you do them in real time, and eventually it will become second nature …
/r/seduction03/05/10 04:11 AM
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I think Maxormis is onto something there. Tell the guy he looks good in the hat, but she would look better. Then once she has the hat, ask the guy to take a picture of the two of you (with your arm around her, or some other form of kino). Its brilliant (totally using this idea once I get a phone with a decent camera (Soon hopefully!)). Also you can use the hat like that on girls to keep them around. This actually works really well. I was at the bar after work one day shooting some pool with a co…
/r/seduction03/05/10 04:03 AM
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I wear Fedora's out on the town all the time, and I've never had a problem with a guy taking my hat. I guess if it did happen to me I would just turn around, look the guy straight in the eye and say "Hands off the merchandise buddy", then take my hat back from him. But honestly I wouldn't worry about it much unless your still in high school.
/r/seduction02/05/10 11:48 AM
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Thats easy. You open them the same way you would open any set. The girls your with are your pivots (Similar to a wing). Leave the set your with (Go to the bar for a drink, bathroom, talk on your phone, any excuse to walk away for a moment), go open another set on your way there/back (usually on the way back. Explained in a sec). Once you open the set, and have them hooked you have two choices. Either bring them over to your set that you have (In this case, your two friends), or get your friends …
/r/seduction01/05/10 08:11 PM
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It might have been an IOI, but its hard to know for sure. When I catch girls staring at me I will make eye contact with them, then smile. If they smile back I take it as an IOI. If they don't smile, and look away, its not necessarily a bad sign, but its not a good sign. If they roll their eyes and look away, then its a bad sign. Or finally if you can stare back for 5 seconds and they don't seem to notice.. Then their just zoned out. At this point your best bet is to go talk to her, and see how i…
/r/seduction01/05/10 05:15 PM
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Arled pretty much hit it dead on. When girls see you with other (attractive) girls they think you must be a good catch, and a fun person to be with. It also strikes a little bit of jealousy in girls because their thinking 'If they can get that guy, why cant I?' And when your with girls you often let your best self show, because your in a good mood, having fun, and (hopefully) dressed well. Basically its hard to know the exact reason, but its usually a combination of these, and a whole lot of oth…
/r/seduction01/05/10 05:10 PM
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Depending on my mood I usually like to call him on it, or return with something of similar vulgarity. Then again this is probably a bad approach for any sort of cold approach, because they don't know my personality (I work in kitchens, so I'm a good humored (vulgar) asshole). Something like "Not shit, bitch" or "Same shit, another fucking day". Again, I would not recommend this for any cold approach, or with your friends (as neither of these responses are crafted to generate attraction. They are…
/r/seduction01/05/10 04:52 PM
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AMOG = Alpha Male Other Guy (generally male competition) On the right hand side of the seddit page.
/r/seduction01/05/10 04:31 PM
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If you act selfless, as if your life was ALREADY fun and interesting My life is fun and interesting because I go out and talk to everyone. I don't talk to them because I want to entertain them, make them like me, or make them remember me. I do it because talking to people is fun, and if your having fun, chances are others around you are having fun to. By acting selfless your actually acting like more like an AFC. Your more worried about the other person having fun, and you end up spending your t…
/r/seduction01/05/10 01:37 AM
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There are just lot's of times that I do feel like talking more, but just don't know what to say to start a conversation. Honestly over half the conversations in my day to day life start with some form of "Whats up/Hows it going?"
/r/seduction30/04/10 08:41 PM
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A lot of people use neg's in the wrong way, and therefor come across as a 'classless douchbag'. Neg's are supposed to be subtle ways to (playfully) tease her, keep her interested, and show her your not trying to suck up. I believe what OP did (Joke with her about her driving) was a good play.
/r/seduction30/04/10 02:39 PM
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When I go out, I start conversations with everyone to make my own life more fun and interesting, not theirs. When you worry about making other people happy/entertained you tend to over think things, and might come off as trying to hard. Doing things for yourself will make it become natural and easier, because your focused on having fun yourself. That in turn causes you to attract people (because people are attracted to fun people).
/r/seduction30/04/10 02:33 PM
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Im going to agree with the other posts here. You don't want to try to lower his value, it will make you look worse than your trying to make him. Instead you should befriend him, and raise your own game up to his level.
/r/seduction30/04/10 02:25 PM
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Weed always messes up my game. Makes it harder for me to come up with random topics/things to say. Memory usually isn't a huge problem. Also I hate making eye contact when I'm high because I'm always wondering if they know I'm high (which is bad when sarging at work).. Alcohol I think actually helps my game. Makes me more talkative for sure. Also makes me kino and escalate faster, without thinking so much about the 'what-ifs'. Although too much alcohol can be a terrible thing, and can make yours…
/r/seduction29/04/10 09:28 PM
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I was wondering the same thing...
/r/seduction29/04/10 03:12 PM
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Quality relationships is a combination of the numbers game, and having standards. Keep meeting people till you find one that (mostly) holds up to your standards.
/r/seduction29/04/10 04:18 AM
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Try to start a conversation with her (between songs if possible), start out with a strong/confident frame because you don't have much time to build comfort. After a few "WHAT?!" (because you cant hear each other) motion for her to hold on a second, grab a piece of paper, and write "We should go somewhere a little quieter" or "Lets go somewhere we can talk". Hand her the note, give her a second to read it, then walk away motioning for her to follow (grab her hand to escort her if you feel confide…
/r/seduction28/04/10 10:21 PM
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False Time Constraint. Although I have to admit, I had to google it to figure out WTF he was talking about..
/r/seduction27/04/10 11:17 PM
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Depends on the girl/situation. As a general rule of thumb I don't flake out on plans unless I get double booked (which happens). But I have had some girls where it seems to work REALLY well. For example: There was this girl I knew who often came out our parties, and me and her would always hit it off when we were together. Problem was she was well known for flaking on her plans with everyone. She did it to me a few times and I got sick of it, so next time we made plans I decided to flake on her.…
/r/seduction27/04/10 01:44 PM
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the likelihood you'll get blown out before you say hello if this was an approach to a 10 on the beauty scale of 1-10 =] If she blows you out before you even say your first word than its even better than if you got to open then got blown out. You can power through her 'blow out' as long as you don't let it destroy your frame. If that were to happen to me I would say something like 'Haha, wow. You girls are just like those snobby bitches in HS. Thats amazing, seriously. I'm gonna come back over he…
/r/seduction24/04/10 08:10 PM
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The only response I'm expecting from her is for her to shoot me down on my initial approach. And hell, if she doesn't shoot me down, then I'm golden.
/r/seduction24/04/10 07:31 PM
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Dunno how many time's I've seen this, but I always agree with it.
/r/seduction24/04/10 07:25 PM
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Give her a call, you got nothing to loose! Even if she's bat shit crazy, it'll be a good story to tell later.
/r/seduction24/04/10 07:22 PM
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Have to agree here. Touch is the best way to test how into you a girl is. If she tenses up/pulls away when you touch her she isn't interested. On the other hand if she lets it happen/touches you back/moves into it then its on. Either way you get kino and it helps you get used to touching/escalating.
/r/seduction24/04/10 07:19 PM
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Approach her (girl A) within the first 3 seconds, before I see 20+ guys hit on her. When she tries to turn me down because she thinks I'm hitting on her I turn it around on her instead, telling her that I'm not trying to hit on her, I'm actually just using her as a warm up for that other girl (points at some 7/8 (Girl B)). BS for short while then walk away and go open the girl I pointed to earlier. Work my way around a few more sets till I find myself close to girl A again and open her a 2nd tim…
/r/seduction24/04/10 07:15 PM
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As everyone else said, just order some non-alcoholic drinks in between whatever real drinks you get. If anyone questions why your not drinking (booze), just tell them, "Im not here to get wasted/drunk/smashed, I'm just having a good time"
/r/seduction22/04/10 09:00 PM
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She wasnt suggesting right now Thats what I got out of it, unless there was some other context that was neglected.
/r/seduction22/04/10 08:51 PM
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I think having a party is a good idea. Keep it casual though. Inviting her to some 'Super crazy drunken barmitsfa!' is a bad idea. I usually just invite people over for a grill out, or fire. You live in an apartment which means those idea's might not work, but you could find a nearby park to grill instead (or some apartments have a 'grilling area' that they provide).
/r/seduction22/04/10 08:44 PM
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When I first started doing my hair it felt strange. Then I became used to it. And finally I ended up working too many times a week (In a kitchen, so I'm forced to wear a hat), so I ended up just finding a good hat. Now I find myself enjoying the days I don't need to wear a hat so I can show off my hairstyle..
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:55 AM
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I have done the same thing, going to place 'X' hoping that person 'Y' was working. I guess I got my hired gun game down when I started considering myself the 'hired gun'. After I realized how I felt about all the customers (Your all equal (Looks dont matter as much (after you get used to it)) until you manage to impress/entertain me). It all comes down to the small victories you gain every day. Everywhere I go I notice people checking me out (males/females of all ages). I honestly don't care wha…
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:23 AM
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A hired gun is just as good as anyone else in a night. Where I work I consider myself a hired gun (I do nothing but talk with customers, while trying to act/look good for tips), yet Im using it to improve my game. Consider this.. A lot of the [enthusiastic] hired guns are just learning how to [properly] act in social situations and are probably more worried about themselves than you..
/r/seduction22/04/10 07:03 AM
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I wasn't trying to meet women. I was out with friends, and happened some women.
/r/seduction22/04/10 06:49 AM
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Not at all. This community is great at helping people understand why things developed how they did, and help you figure out what to do better next time. I've seen too many people think that pick-up is all about knowing what to say, when to say it, then expecting magic. When what it really comes down to is you improving yourself, and making yourself a better person.
/r/seduction22/04/10 05:54 AM
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Hey, I mean I like you as a person, but please don't contact me again unless your single. I can tell you still have oneits over her because you still want her to contact you when she is single. Sure, you might like her, and you think it would be great to go out with her if she were single. But it should be at the same level as every hot chick you see (ex. "Damn she's hot. She looks like she'd be fun to date/fuck/get to know"). As for 'telling her off' your best off just cutting conversation with…
/r/seduction22/04/10 04:36 AM
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Its an easy way to make people talk more without seeming try hard. You can ask simple innocent questions that are really just you making a joke (Such as the example: "How'd that cardboard treat ya?"), but because its technically they feel like they should reply with more than just a chuckle.
/r/seduction22/04/10 04:22 AM
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Aye, good job on getting out there and opening. Small steps, then big steps. That's the #1 problem most people make with this stuff.. They assume a little reading will allow them to go out and score with chicks all night.. Edit: (as an after thought) Also, Im actually enjoying all your posts (I've noticed you've been making a small handful recently), because you actually seem to understand that its more about changing yourself as opposed to 'knowing the perfect line for every situation'.
/r/seduction22/04/10 04:18 AM
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I actually did enjoy your comment. I've been working/cooking in (professional) kitchen for 5 years, and I'm used to cooking for people. It never would have crossed my mind to bring her into the kitchen and make her get 'involved', as typically at work I want people to get out of my way/food. I'm definitely going to be using this in the future.
/r/seduction22/04/10 01:13 AM
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Ill be the first (in this thread) to say congrats on the progress. The only difference I would have made is to change the final line from "Let me know how that works out for you." to something like "How'd that treat ya?" Small change, but the 2nd promotes more conversation, by making it a question. If you wanted to you could also move into recommending a drink that you believe will 'complement the flavor of that cardboard delicacy'. After that you just needed to find a way of getting yourself se…
/r/seduction22/04/10 01:05 AM
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Quit thinking of her as 'something special.' I know that's easier said that done, but that's what ruins so many guy's when their talking to women. When talking to a friend, any other male, or un-attractive female; (most) people can be witty, charming, and talkative without having to think. But once you start worrying about what the other person thinks you start to over analyze everything. I guess that's what people mean when they say 'Be yourself'. Quit thinking, quit trying to impress people. S…
/r/seduction21/04/10 08:58 PM
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I am a full time (college) student, and I work at a Bar/Bowling alley, so I spend a lot of time out in the field. Although at work I don't get to approach girls, they need to approach me, which I guess hinders me slightly. Although because I work there the girls (subconsciously) trust me, which allows me to say some things off the bat that I wouldn't be able to get away with on a cold approach.
/r/seduction20/04/10 07:04 PM
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Rock Climbing is a little intense for a first date, as is an amusement park That is true, Ill give you that. They work well on later dates though. Bowling verges on cliche I used to think that, until I started working at a bowling alley, and bringing girls there. Most girls I met haven't gone bowling in years (usually gym class in high school). And honestly if the girl is wont/doesn't want to wear borrowed shoe's, chances are she's not my type of girl. Bars are usually good for the later part of…
/r/seduction20/04/10 06:48 PM
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First of all, you cant let it look like his backslapping is getting to you, just play it cool. After the first time he does it I would just try to (discreetly) put a little distance between me and him. Ideally you could get one of the targets friends in a spot next to him, or your wing if you don't have any other choice. If he goes for it a 2nd or 3rd time then he is pretty seriously trying to AMOG you, or really drunk. If he's trying to out Alpha you, I'd use a line like 'Hey buddy, at least bu…
/r/seduction20/04/10 06:36 PM
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if the guy is being entertaining, from my opener, and the group is digging it, then I've essentially added value because I introduced the topic from which he can riff. Although that's true, you don't want to let him run with your opener too long. Let him bust a few jokes, then get the attention back on you. If you let him go on too long he will kill the group by staying on one topic, and you will loose value by being the quite guy.
/r/seduction20/04/10 06:12 PM
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but says, keep 'em coming, I'd like to see you again! Sounds like she is using you to make herself feel good. Your best chance is to not talk to her for awhile (upto a week), then give her a call. When she answers skip all small talk, and just hit her with a line like this 'I don't like getting blown off, so this is the last chance you're getting..' If she doesn't accept the date/counter offer then simply tell her 'You seemed like a fun girl, and I wanted to get to know you better, but were obvi…
/r/seduction19/04/10 08:03 PM
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I managed to fire off a couple quiet comments, and a couple of times I caught the same girl looking at me. That's your first problem. You said yourself that you made some 'quiet' comments. Doesn't matter if you said the wittiest thing in the world, your tonality would have killed it. Second, you should have said something (anything) to the girl when you sat down at the table. Even something as simple as 'Hey' would work (as you have broken the silence/conversation barrier). Then when the friends…
/r/seduction19/04/10 07:18 PM
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I REALLY have to agree with this. Where I work I have had many girls do this exact thing to me, trying to get a reaction out of me.
/r/seduction19/04/10 07:02 PM
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Touching people is a great way to steal someone's thunder, and make yourself the dominant person in a conversation. In the example above you mention him making penguin jokes. An easy way to handle that is to wait till after he tells a joke and (hopefully) waits for people to laugh. Then you laugh politely (not over the top), tell him 'that's a good joke, I'm gonna steal that from you next time I'm hitting on some girls' (disqualifies him), and touch him on the shoulder (in a good humored way). T…
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:59 PM
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I cant believe this has been here for a day, with 4 upvotes, and no posts.. Some idea's for the first date: Bowling Mini-golf Bar (preferably one that has other entertainment. Such as pool tables, or a band!) Amusement park/Carnival/State fair Coffee shop Rock Climbing Parties (Be careful with this one. These can be amazing first dates, but can also totally destroy it depending on the people/environment) Thats just a few idea's I came up with off the top of my head. The first date usually wont l…
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:44 PM
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I don't like talking to everyone, because that takes a lot of energy. Sounds like a killer excuse you got right there. Talking to everyone is about more than just improving your skill, its about building a social circle, and social proof. I know and talk to people everywhere I go, and that is amazing social proof when your out with someone. Not to mention it makes life much easier to, for example.. At the bank I know the manager and most of the cashier's on a first name basis. This has gotten ov…
/r/seduction19/04/10 06:12 PM
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I believe you have finally hit the point in inner game where you realize that you are the special catch, not the other way around. That is where I hit the big turning point in my game. Once I realized that I no longer had to 'try' to get people interested in me, I could focus on being myself (the me that makes people want to know me), and didn't have to worry about what other people thought.. Then again you might just be in a 'lull' period in your life where your simply to busy to really worry a…
/r/seduction18/04/10 09:52 AM
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Best thing to cure oneits is to realize that there are plenty of other girls out there. You get stuck on one girl because you dont have any other girls to fall back on. What really fixed that shit for me was realizing that you may have 'that one girl' who is really cool, and is everything you ever dreamed of.. But you also have that other girl you talk to, and that other one, and that other one.. Even if their not the type of girl you would normally pick ('perfect, awesome personality, cute, etc…
/r/seduction18/04/10 09:44 AM
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Did you just find him at a club, or was this a planned meeting? Also, you should make Neil do an AMA on reddit.. That would be awesome!
/r/seduction18/04/10 09:32 AM
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If you think, you're dead. Best advise ever.
/r/seduction17/04/10 06:53 PM
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but sometimes I feel like they can hold you back or even become obstacles in some cases. This is so true, especially if some of your friends are still AFC's. I was out playing Frisbee golf yesterday with some friends, when I spotted 3 girls who were obviously new to the course, so I invited them to play with us. I was chatting with them the whole time, but my friends were like fucking mimes. I don't think I heard more than 10 sentences out of the two of them the whole time. The girls were starti…
/r/seduction17/04/10 06:35 PM
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I swear I can't tell if a girl is 18 or 30. It's like I have age blindness or something. Best way to figure out her age is just walk up to her and make a joke like 'Their let high school kids in here now?' Something that will dis-qualify her (Because you think she is still in high school), but obviously as a joke. Chances are they will laugh and say something like 'I graduated XX years ago." I have used a similar line to figure out how old a lot of girls are without having to directly ask them t…
/r/seduction17/04/10 06:24 PM
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If their in college chances are their over 18..
/r/seduction15/04/10 05:27 PM
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No, I think he got the idea..
/r/seduction14/04/10 11:34 PM
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Those shoes are for running, nothing else. Also this post is more fitted for /r/malefashionadvise.
/r/seduction14/04/10 02:10 AM
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I recently made a few posts over here about a similar problem. Basically the best thing to do is something like silvermckenzie said. Take some time away from her, and use that time to increase your value (get a job (or two!), work out, school, cool hobby), basically anything that makes you a busier (and better) person. Then when you manage to find time to hang out with her again (it should be difficult at this time, as you should be busy with everything else), she will be excited to see you agai…
/r/seduction13/04/10 07:54 PM
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I wasn't talking about starting an office romance (that's an entirely different challenge). I was simply saying work is a great place to start building a social circle. You already have something in common with the people you work with (you work at the same place) which also gives you something to talk about. Most people will be okay with the idea of having drinks after work, or going out to lunch on a break. You probably wont end up being best friends, but its a great place to start building a …
/r/seduction13/04/10 07:38 PM
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You could argue the ethics of a lot of the things talked about in this community. Personally I view it as using what you know, to get what you want. Most of these techniques are great in situations other than trying to pick up girls. I guess the number one place I 'play' the social dominance 'card' is at work. Working in a kitchen can get crazy sometimes, but having a 'dominant' cook helps keep the place under control. When I go help another cook I will walk up to them and touch them on the shou…
/r/seduction13/04/10 07:20 PM
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Haha, I know the feeling. I'm working on (better/faster) ways of getting out of the friend zone (like I said, I got friend zoned with a lot of girls). The best I've gotten so far is to just quit talking to her for awhile, while you raise your value higher than it was when you got 'friend zoned'. Doesn't have to take a half year. Just needs to be long enough so next time she talks to you she needs to compete for your attention/time. When you finally find time to hang out (should be difficult with…
/r/seduction13/04/10 06:37 PM
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IOBS (indicator of being stoned) That has to be the best acronym I've heard come out of this community.
/r/seduction13/04/10 06:21 PM
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I hate to say this, but you probably blew your chance when you had the awkward hello. You should have struck up a conversation, or something at that point. Now your just some guy she made out with at a party. Of course I could be wrong. Easy way to figure out is to strike up a conversation with her. If she feels awkward, you loose, if not, you win!
/r/seduction13/04/10 12:04 AM
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Work is a great place to start. Get to know people you work with, and hang out with them. Other places I've met people include: Bowling alley Frisbee Golf Course Gym School (college campus) Basically anything around a campus (coffee shops, ice cream shops, bookstore) Hotels (Once met some girls who were drinking in the hot tub in Vegas, when I was there for my sisters wedding) Water park/pool Town festivals/parties/beer gardens Arcades Those are just some places off the top of my head where I've…
/r/seduction12/04/10 10:35 PM
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That's really interesting. I've also noticed that when you touch people they instantly feel more comfortable around you. I believe that part of the reason touch makes people respond differently to you is because it makes you the socially dominant person. Also once you break the touch barrier it makes the other person feel more comfortable around you. I found this quote in the wikipedia article about serotonin: Serotonin has been used as a neurotransmitter since very early in nerve system evoluti…
/r/seduction12/04/10 10:11 PM
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Find something you enjoy doing (other than sitting at home alone), and do it! Be passionate about something, and find other people who enjoy the same thing. Trying new things is probably the best way to meet new people (like sshields said). Try something new, ask other people for tips/advise, and suddenly you have friends and a fun new hobby.
/r/seduction12/04/10 09:49 PM
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If the girl is saying 'so...' it means they wanted (past tense) to keep the conversation going. By the time they say that its to late, and your best bet is to eject, and try to save face. When you use an opener you don't want to try to milk it. When the conversation drops for 2-4 seconds throw out a new conversation starter. Any conversation (male or female) that stops for more than 5 seconds (If you don't already have attraction) quickly becomes awkward for both of you. Have a few conversation …
/r/seduction12/04/10 09:41 PM
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I had a similar problem. I was 'friends' with a lot (most) of the girls I knew. What's been working for me (its still a work in progress) is I took a break from 'hanging out' with most of them for for the winter, and part of the fall. I'm not saying you should stop talking to them, what happened for me is I got really busy over the winter (Between working a full time job, internship, full time student, working out, and generally getting myself out of the AFC mindset). I still talked to all of th…
/r/seduction12/04/10 05:47 PM
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Keep talking to girls, and use a wide variety of openers until you find the one that works best for you. Different lines work differently for other people. Also analyze exactly what it is you did/said when you see the attraction turn off. Was it just before you said your 2nd line (Thus meaning your problem is non-verbal (body language?) , or perhaps not verbal enough?) or during/after the 2nd line (Which could be from a bad line, bad body language, or just how you said it (Congruency, to quiet, …
/r/seduction12/04/10 05:22 PM
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Your thinking WAY to much about it.. You helped her out, she will remember that. Don't mention anything about it the next day. If your (bro)friend had called you up and needed a jump, you wouldn't think twice about it. Give her the same treatment.
/r/seduction12/04/10 07:32 AM
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Quit worrying about it, she'll sense it. Just give her a call, treat her like every other person! Take her out bowling, or mini-golf, or whatever it is you normally do (besides the bar). Bowling is a good one because most bowling alleys have bars in them. That way you guys can get drinks, without having to take her to a bar.
/r/seduction11/04/10 04:46 PM
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I've read the Mystery Method and I enjoyed it, although it might be more about 'Making meeting girls into a science' to roughly quote your post. Rules of the game is a step by step 'guide' to get you out there and talking to women. Cant say anything about the other book. The book of Pook might actually be your best bet for a 'casual' read. You can always get the 3 books listed above online for a much 'cheaper' price anyways.. Trust me
/r/seduction10/04/10 03:33 AM
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I want to say it is entirely possible to friend-zone girls. Personally I have friend-zoned a few girls (absolutely no sexual interest in these girls), and they are constantly trying to hang out with me, and talking to me (one even said she had a dream about me the other night). Thing is these girls are HB5/6's so they don't have the same mindset as a HB9/10. In my experience the 9/10's usually try to flip it around on you (Try to make you the friend). They have so many options available to them …
/r/seduction09/04/10 08:02 PM
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Personally I started by reading 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, then moved onto 'Rules of the game' by Neil Strauss. Both good books for getting you out there and getting a basic understanding. Next, you need to work on your look. Work out, and get a sense of style. I'm going to recommend you subscribe to /r/malefashionadvice. As for your personality, your doing good with the 'I dont give a fuck' attitude. Now you just need to work on making yourself more social/loud. Quit worrying about getting lai…
/r/seduction09/04/10 08:07 AM
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I like this. Puts the pressure back on them.
/r/seduction07/04/10 01:01 AM
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Exactly, but I've learned not to trust what they say. When I was talking to her she said she was a Sr. in high school (So i figured 17-18). When the mother called she said her daughter was 15.
/r/seduction07/04/10 01:00 AM
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Problem there is a lot of them look 18, but in reality their 15! That actually got me in trouble at work once..
/r/seduction06/04/10 11:39 PM
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I think I may have to use this..
/r/seduction06/04/10 11:38 PM
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I have this problem (if you could call it that) of flirting with a lot of (attractive) older (30ish) ladies. They love it, but whenever I try to push it past the playful flirting they always follow up with the line "Im to old for you" or "I could be your mother" because they think I'm 18 (or younger)
/r/seduction06/04/10 11:36 PM
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Its not holding me back, im just tired of girls using the line "I'm to old for you" and not having a good response.
/r/seduction06/04/10 11:32 PM
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If not go knock on her door and sheepishly say something like "haha I'm such a nerd, I have no clue why I got your room number and not your real number." Then get the real number and peace b/c she's not expecting you. Personally I would do this. Just knock on her door, tell her your on your way to class or something (Time-constraint) and just ask for the number. Or.. If you have a hookah (or a friend with one) it gives you an excuse to sit outside (Somewhere she might walk past) and strike up a …
/r/seduction05/04/10 09:51 PM
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I'm trying to advertise that I'm worth knowing. Thats exactly what you SHOULD be doing.
/r/seduction02/04/10 06:46 PM
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The best thing to do is just simply talk to EVERYONE! If you dont feel comfortable approaching strangers at a bar, talk to the cashier at the supermarket. People who are working (cashiers, bartenders, gas station attendants) usually love it when people talk to them, and I have never gotten a negative response (Had plenty of short conversations, but nothing 'bad'). This goes a long way for just building up your small talk skills and will help you get over the fear of talking to strangers (approac…
/r/seduction01/04/10 01:28 AM
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You could always just use the line 'Hey guys, how's it going?' Might not be the best line, but it works well enough for simply getting comfortable approaching people. Quick note: Saying 'guys' instead of 'girls' is very important. By saying guys you make it 'silly and non-sexual'. Subtle differences like that can make a world of difference.
/r/seduction01/04/10 01:13 AM
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