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The aim of the book is to empathise with the other and understand and put yourself in their shoes which means basically I need to make my initial guesses (assumptions) but not be attached them and say them in order to get clarity. So I feel I did this okay. I think my words may have been a little formal but other than that I wasn’t attached to any assumptions and I did ask questions. I think the other person was very defensive and probably had low trust for people in general who try to understan…
/r/seduction06/06/19 06:09 AM
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Ok so the answer then is to whisper in her ear what you’re going to do with her after she comes back from her trip. Let that image in her mind marinate while she’s on holidays.
/r/seduction06/06/19 05:54 AM
2

Grant Cardone. Look him up.
/r/seduction06/06/19 05:52 AM
1

Tell her what you want more like a command. Assume she wants what you want initially. E.g “I’m going to take you to watch a movie this Saturday. What time shall we meet 3pm or 4pm?” But of course respect her decision if she says “I’m not interested sorry.” Or something along those lines. If she accepts and is interested, exchange numbers.
/r/seduction06/06/19 05:50 AM
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Eh learn from experience, try both. Then you’ll “KNOW” what works for you. I say this with confidence because it works for me. But other guys I think make chit chat merely because they don’t realise they don’t actually need to and they have been brainwashed by puas who told them the same thing about “make them chase.”
/r/seduction06/06/19 05:44 AM
1

To me this says you’re a magnet for girls who like free meals. Stop offering to pay shit for women you haven’t even been with sexually, and actually let women know you want to sleep with them right off the bat. Even if (especially if) she is an old friend you need to be direct. You really shouldn’t spend $1 on a woman before you have sex, unless it’s for a cab fare, a condom, or a motel.
/r/seduction03/06/19 05:14 AM
1

Stop making chit chat with women. I don’t get where guys got this idea they need to be good conversationalists to get laid. It’s such a myth. Every girl I’ve fucked I’ve probably used less than 15-20 words before getting in bed with her the first time. Seriously, do you think cavemen talked a lot before getting a woman to fuck? Just let a woman know you want to sleep with her in a super confident, maybe even cocky manner, and then get her answer. That’s it most of the time. If you want to know s…
/r/seduction03/06/19 04:48 AM
1

Well we need to establish something. How many rejections in a row before you get laid? Is it like 100? Or 1000? And what is your definition of a success vs a rejection?
/r/seduction03/06/19 04:39 AM
23

Damn whiskey dick with a 9. That must be a slap in the face not to drink again!
/r/seduction03/06/19 04:37 AM
1

What should I do when I put myself out there? Tell women what you want directly and confidently. What should I say? Say your desires specifically and boldly and NOT in a permissive way. Let them accept your desires or reject them. How do I make a move without appearing creepy? Sometimes you will be judged as creepy. You can’t ever control the universe from completely judging you a certain way. Get used to criticism. But to prevent legal trouble (not criticism) don’t make a physical move until th…
/r/seduction03/06/19 04:32 AM
1

In my opinion confidence with women comes from stepping through fears related to women while acting confident in body language and behaviours. E.g Approaching a girl who you are intimidated of, while looking her in the eyes and standing tall and speaking loud enough. There are broke guys out there who don’t have much value who are still very confident with girls and do well. Confidence with women doesn’t have much to do with how good you are at other areas of life. It’s about stepping through fe…
/r/seduction03/06/19 04:02 AM
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I agree with what you’re saying absolutely. Asking questions without judgements or assumptions. However, when I made the comment about “protectiveness” I did say “I’m getting the sense that” and also I said at the end of the paragraph “is that right?” So I wasn’t claiming my statement was correct it was more of a guess at what he was doing and an attempt at clarification and understanding. Do you still consider this an assumption? And do you recommend staying clear of making any guesses as to ho…
/r/seduction03/06/19 03:56 AM
1

Awesome job for taking action and attempting to get more clarity on who you are as man. That’s really good and you’re making a great difference in the world by improving yourself. Keep it up.
/r/seduction03/06/19 01:34 AM
1

Ok. Well I appreciate your willingness to discuss. I’m frustrated at all the answers you gave me because I felt most of them were back and forth or contradictory which left me quite confused and throwing out incorrect guesses. Anyway I think you’ve got the answer above from me and others that you should continue to approach in spite of being not perfect. Women are very forgiving and if you try to be perfect before approaching you’ll die of old age, because you can never reach perfection.
/r/seduction03/06/19 12:45 AM
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Ok. So you’ve just found my interpretations to be wrong but you’re happy to continue discussing. Have I got you this time?
/r/seduction03/06/19 12:36 AM
1

I’m misunderstanding you. So you do know your path going forward, and you feel a little attacked and want me to stop clarifying and attempting to understand because it feels like I’m overanalysing you or putting you in the spotlight. You just want advice for the original question. Is this right?
/r/seduction03/06/19 12:03 AM
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I’m practicing Steven covey’s 7 habits of highly effective people, seek first to understand them be understood principle. Basically I’m trying to understand and clarify understanding before providing my opinion. I’m new to this so I expected not to be perfect. However, the challenge for me was koolxxx never agreed to any of my statements of understanding and kept brushing off whatever I said, which made it hard for me to move to the place where I express my opinion because I needed to keep tryin…
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:44 PM
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Body language Tonality Word choice Behaviours More specifically .. you probably are doing one or more of the following: sitting/standing straight, not hesitating as much, direct eye contact, speaking more loudly, touching more, moving gracefully or with a strut, taking up space, speaking to more people, disagreeing, speaking up etc. Girls won’t go through this checklist they will notice this intuitively, and they will just “feel your vibes” as more confident.
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:39 PM
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Ok .. you’re confused about what you want. You’ve suffered a lot. You’ve found the seduction community and believe it will help you get away from your suffering and fix up your flaws. And you want people to provide guidance on where to start even though you don’t know where you’re going?
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:35 PM
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So you don’t care about sex much, you just want to be more confident with girls, and have them asking you questions and touching you? And you don’t want to miss opportunities for sex because of your fitness level? Seems like you’re really confused or not honest with yourself about what it is you want.
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:25 PM
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Other than my summarising/paraphrasing and asking questions which I stated was because I am practicing this for communication purposes (I am taking on leadership positions irl and need the practice), what about my writing style made you perceive me as autistic or “beyond autismo”?
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:09 PM
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What are your expectations though? For you to post this question seems like you think you should be getting laid soon. How many rejections do you think you’ll need to go through before getting laid?
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:04 PM
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Yeah I wouldn’t personally pay him myself. But I think if I had a guru who I respected and could teach me stuff I would pay even a large amount of money. I think it’s good to invest in learning. Lot of people waste $3000 on some trip to Thailand and just buy booze and hookers. But investing in learning how to seduce could result in regular sex for the rest of your life so long as you get the right teacher. I think Tyler May have something to offer on how to get laid but I don’t think it would be…
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:01 PM
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Hahah me too.
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:52 PM
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Then no. Go approach. You’re making excuses and being a little bitch.
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:50 PM
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Are you obese?
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:30 PM
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Cocky is just “very confident” ... women RESPOND well to it, AND will criticise it too. Always be cocky, it works a lot of the time. It won’t get girls complimenting you, but it will get you pussy.
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:24 PM
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Take care :)
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:17 PM
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What’s so bad about seeing women as numbers? Shame on you for judging OP so quickly.
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:11 PM
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Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Let me correct that. I would pay a guru of my choice, let me be clear on that. RSD are not my gurus, they’re someone else’s gurus. Maybe yours. So you think I sound a little too robotic or analytical when I sum up peoples comments? And since this is unusual you consider for me to have mental issues? :D I assure you I don’t have any mental issues. I just like to communicate clearly and make sure I understand someone. I’m getting into the practice of paraphra…
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:06 PM
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So my long paragraphs and attempts at understanding you is making you feel absolutely embarrassed or disappointed. Do I understand you correctly?
/r/seduction02/06/19 09:58 PM
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So to summarise ... You have a strong desire to have great game and influence with women and people. The RSD courses are expensive but you’re considering paying for it if it helps you significantly get closer to your goal. And you feel unsure and need some kind of encouragement or certainty. ... I’ve never been coached by RSD and never would pay them to coach me personally. I consider them to be highly manipulative and not great role models to learn ethical seduction. However, I would pay a guru…
/r/seduction02/06/19 09:54 PM
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So I’m making too many assumptions and you don’t see this as a big deal. You’re just providing a recommendation to avoid these commenters who you view as trolls and save everyone’s time. You’d like people sticking to your main topic and not getting sidetracked. Is this right?
/r/seduction02/06/19 09:44 PM
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Thanks for your input OP. So I’m getting a sense that you’re feeling protective over me and wanting to warn me while also feeling angry towards these commenters for their controversial opinions and lack of seriousness m. It sounds like you’re having memories coming up of some old friend of yours who was an incel that spoke similarly. Is this right? For me personally I am happy to engage these commenters and hear their opinions as long as they are not blatantly insulting, I am ok with different v…
/r/seduction02/06/19 09:36 PM
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Ok so here’s my suggestion imagine you’re jabbing them physically, and in the past where you grew up your friends could take jabs and enjoyed fighting with you playfully. But your new friends get bruised each time you throw a jab. Their skin is just too sensitive too it. Can you really make their skin less sensitive?
/r/seduction02/06/19 09:30 PM
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So you feel very strongly about this issue. What you’re saying is paying for sex is guaranteed, pickup is a gamble, but learning how to pickup is just a waste of money. You feel envious of Tyler because he gets to bang heaps of women for his job and make heaps of money off naive men. Am I getting you correctly?
/r/seduction02/06/19 09:26 PM
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So you’re conflicted between doing what has been comfortable/enjoyable for you so far VS an empathetic response which is deterring you from emotionally harming others. Is this right? You want to either have them learn to enjoy your lighthearted criticism ... or you want to refrain from lightheartedly criticising ... but ultimately you don’t want to remain conflicted is this right?
/r/seduction02/06/19 09:17 PM
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Thanks for providing your insightful view. So you believe the money you pay for a prostitute is equal to the amount of money you would pay on a night out attempting to pick up women? And paying for the hooker is guaranteed sex and easier?
/r/seduction02/06/19 08:45 PM
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Thanks for replying man :) So you believe it’ll be difficult to hookup at school with her because she may not feel comfortable about doing so over there? And you feel helpless about hooking up with her when she goes to her friend’s house because there’s no way you can get in the bedroom? Your intention of this post was to learn how to let her know you’re interested in her so that she will stay interested in you and hook up with you at a later time when it is more convenient for you both to do so…
/r/seduction02/06/19 08:28 PM
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Thanks for providing your reply. Great to have differing opinions and discussion! So what you’re saying is you think it’s unnecessary to check for a woman’s interest before slowly touching her when you like some aspect of her? And you believe it’s easier to approach girls who give IOIS but it’s not good for developing your skills? Have I understood you correctly?
/r/seduction02/06/19 08:21 PM
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Thanks for adding to the discussion. So you’re saying the 80% the other guy was referring to are guys who cold approach at least once but maybe even more? Well .. even then I’d say that shouldn’t be so high at least where I live. But I noticed he lives in NYC so that makes more sense. Men are pretty outspoken there with strangers.
/r/seduction02/06/19 08:16 PM
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This is the beauty of being direct. When you’re direct you’ll know in minutes of meeting a girl if she’s into you or not. First step into her space and see if she moves forward, stays still or leans/moves back. If she moves back that’s a sign she’s not that comfortable with you or not that into you. Then tell her what you want (casual sex/dates and sex/girlfriend etc) and see her response.
/r/seduction02/06/19 08:13 PM
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So you’re saying you have no experience, confidence, skills, or options with girls. And now you want to quickly turn a girl that you like a lot into your girlfriend and have her fall in love with you. Is this right?
/r/seduction02/06/19 01:11 PM
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Getting the number should be only done when you are SURE she wants to hookup with you. If you ever feel uncomfortable about being dominant and making statements for the number it means you are not sure that she likes you. I.e you LACK confidence. So forget numbers till you are sure she is into you.
/r/seduction02/06/19 12:54 PM
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Do you have a place? Access to a friends place? A car? Or access to a motel/hotel? Or access to any comfortable secluded area?
/r/seduction02/06/19 12:38 PM
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Ooh say it again by Alan Roger Currie. The PERFECT book for just this subject in my opinion. Basically the gist is teaching you how to turn a woman on with hot sensual dirty talk in her ear to persuade/seduce her and arouse her slut side so that she breaks past any resistance / her social programming / her good girl facade. But there is a difference between resistance and rejection. If a girl ever gives a firm rejection none of this shit will help.
/r/seduction02/06/19 12:26 PM
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I apologise for annoying and frustrating you. I can get provocative, lack empathy and speak bluntly when I am bored on reddit sometimes. I apologise for that. That’s great your definition is from what seems to be a scholarly source. I have provided a definition of what I believe to be dominance up above however it was very brief and not based on any scholarly sources just my own interpretation. Maybe you didn’t see it, or didn’t think it was counted. And I wasn’t looking to debate but to provide…
/r/seduction02/06/19 12:01 PM
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So you feel defensive and and/or mildly annoyed by my comments. You believe you’ve defined social dominance the way most people and experts define it. You believe I have not provided a definition of dominance. And you believe I think true alphas are always winning and that I believe I am a true alpha and that I’m always winning. Is this right? Or any of this wrong?
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:42 AM
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You never lied to her by the literal definition so you are confused by my accusation of you lying. Is that right? In my opinion you’re lying by omission by not admitting you want sex, when she’s clearly stated she doesn’t want sex. Then when you physically escalate and try to get laid you’re attempting to “sneakily” arouse her and get some sex without honestly stating that you want sex.
/r/seduction02/06/19 11:31 AM
1

Stop lying to her. Tell her that when she comes to your house you’re gonna fuck her. (Beforehand say this) If she says no then don’t invite her. Easy.
/r/seduction02/06/19 10:53 AM
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STOP THINKING about how she’ll react. Focus on being the man you want to be.
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:55 PM
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Where do you live? From what I see ... 2% approach in daytime 20% approach in nighttime (some of them are tipsy/drunk too) the vast majority of guys stay with their friends, stand idle, watch girls, or talk to girls they already know. I don’t know where you live for 80% of the guys to be approaching, that’s a lot.
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:40 PM
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What’d she say?
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:36 PM
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No I don’t :) I’ve had my fuckups too. The reason I cringe is an empathic response I cringe at my own fuckups just as I cringe at yours.
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:35 PM
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Say “can I please take you for a dinner and I’ll pay for all of it just to soak up your feminine energy because I am a desperate virgin that goes on seduction forums on the internet and if you just gave me your presence I’d be very content although I would still try to manipulate the situation into sex and get frustrated if you refused and then I’d analyse my game and try to get feedback on what I did wrong. So would you like to come on that date?”
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:27 PM
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Why you protecting him with explanations? Are you scared of others cringing at you for your past fuckups?
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:21 PM
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Here’s what you do. Pick one of these: Develop great game like we’re all doing here. Go to some Asian night nightclub. Find an Asian girl and get her hooked to you. Develop good passive income. Go to Asian country and live there while the passive income pays for you and you convert it to cheaper currency meaning you have better quality of living. Date and fuck an Asian girl or Asian girls.
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:19 PM
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Lol damn that story made me cringe.
/r/seduction01/06/19 10:52 PM
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If you don’t wanna fuck or date her. Then go ahead and befriend her.
/r/seduction01/06/19 10:49 PM
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Dude you should never shit where you eat. Just realised you work with her. Damn. Anyway say “take care” and leave her alone. Count it as a rejection. Whether she’s playing or not about the money she’s made it clear she doesn’t want you texting her. If she really wants you she’ll come back but if she goes silent after you do you’ll know she genuinely isn’t into you.
/r/seduction01/06/19 10:44 PM
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Don’t worry about it getting weird. Don’t worry about rejection. Just focus on explicitly telling her what you want. Don’t tell her how you feel. Just tell her what you want.
/r/seduction01/06/19 10:38 PM
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Well you’ll be getting laid plenty. Or have the ability to get laid plenty.
/r/seduction01/06/19 10:36 PM
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So I still don’t understand what your position is. I’m trying to make sense of what you originally said. Care to explain in simple terms? Also you feel I am immature because of my use of the term “pussy” and that you’re trapped in some debate that won’t end. Feel free to leave, but I really would like to understand and have my view changed if I am missing something, and forgive my immature language I merely write like that out of convenience.
/r/seduction01/06/19 01:23 PM
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Are you saying if I feel entitled to pussy, which is something society either gives or does not give to me and is out of my control, I will succeed with women?
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:22 PM
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Yeah you’re already a creep man. I recommend you just let her know you’re into her and wanna hook up sometime. High chance she’ll get creeped out and reject you, but I say do it anyway so you can move along to new girls and not stay fixed onto her.
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:24 AM
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That’s what a 1/10 is someone who is probably deformed or super repulsive and hideous. You’re thinking of maybe a 3 or 4 out of 10.
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:22 AM
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There’s like a 90% chance you or your friend is not a 1/10 ;) seriously. 1/10 is seriously hideous. But if someone were a 1/10 best thing they could do is work on making money. Work on being RIcH. At best he can pay for surgery, nutritionist, personal trainer, grooming etc. and maybe alter his appearance so he is at least average looking or maybe even higher. And THEN work on the confidence with women and his game. At worst he can use all his money to bang hookers and goldiggers for the rest of …
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:09 AM
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“but there is something at the core which either attracts or repels women that you have no control over, and not wanting to sound like a redpiller / blackpiller there is something called preselection.” What is this something at the core? Define it. And provide proof. Otherwise I will respectfully disagree with your false assertion.
/r/seduction01/06/19 11:07 AM
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No. If the guy is a 1/10 in looks with 10/10 in confidence, his sex life will not drastically improve. It may improve a little, but seriously if he is a genuine 1 in looks MOST women will avoid him before he can even approach them. And he will need to approach large amounts of women before getting laid. The good news is he will be so confident he can handle all that rejection without much of a reaction. Having said that, confidence really does make a massive difference to a guy who is slightly u…
/r/seduction01/06/19 09:26 AM
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The guys who did that were absolutely stupid. Actually I’d say most college sex is usually illegal if not on the line of breaking the law. Fucking drunk girls and physically escalating hard in a party could easily result in rape charges the next day. I think guys need to be way more careful and OP it’s not about balls. There’s being ballsy and doing something which is scary but not illegal, and then there’s being recklessly stupid and risking going to prison for pussy. You’re smart for not doing…
/r/seduction01/06/19 09:20 AM
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Dude you didn’t even know what you wanted or weren’t strong enough to express this and go after it. You were either confused about your intentions or displaying a passivity about your intentions. That’s a KILLER to seduction. Always know what you want. Always say what you want. And always go for what you want. If you are rejected, you know and can leave it. If you’re desires are accepted, you know and can enjoy it. But since you were confused or passive you’re now stuck in some ambiguous place (…
/r/seduction01/06/19 09:15 AM
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Just go direct when your family and other customers are no way near. Try be alone with her. Be confident, smooth and relaxed. Try to show you are discreet and not some loud mouth that brags to his brother and dad about fucking the front girl. Speak like you are alone with her and be alone with her. If she rejects, easy, you can spend the rest of the trip knowing you tried and that you can’t do anything else so you can focus your mind on enjoying the trip. If she likes you, great you get some fun…
/r/seduction01/06/19 09:10 AM
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Too long for me to read. I skimmed it. Seems you’ve studied quite a lot. I think an Alpha is the man most dominant and influential in a situation or domain of life. Now in basketball Michael Jordan is probably the alpha. In finance maybe Warren Buffet. In bodybuilding world Arnold. In fighting world maybe Anderson silva. Does this mean these guys are alphas with women? Not necessarily. They may not fuck no where near the best ladies men on earth. So in seduction and pickup word when we refer to …
/r/seduction01/06/19 09:07 AM
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I would never do it. It’s Illegal in most places unless the girl is okay with it. Why risk going to prison?
/r/seduction01/06/19 09:00 AM
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You missed my point. I already said a true alpha can laugh. Read carefully before you reply. Also you’re defining social dominance the way you want to now. That’s fine. But it’s not a fact, and it’s not my definition.
/r/seduction01/06/19 08:21 AM
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If you’re looking for casual sex, leave it out. If you’re looking for a girlfriend, keep it.
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:15 AM
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This is negative and mostly not true. I mean yeah a human vegetable or disabled guy may not be able to do pickup. But 99% of men can do pickup. They may struggle but they can do it. Don’t spread negative bullshit.
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:05 AM
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1) Fears of rejection, stds, criticism, or being attacked and the pain of all of that. Easier alternatives such as making girl in their social circle their girlfriend, no deep burning reason to keep doing it through tough times, uncertainty of the future if it will work or not / doubts. 2) avoid them like they have a disease. Just go out alone or go out with guys who like pickup. If you have friends who don’t like pickup don’t talk about it with them or limit your time with them. 3) list out the…
/r/seduction01/06/19 12:03 AM
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IOIS matter for sex. They also help with picking out approaches if you want to reduce effort on your part.
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:57 PM
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I like your honesty, keep it up.
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:49 PM
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Great job for directly communicating your anger.
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:47 PM
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Thanks for those upvotes. It’s good to add positivity in this place.
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:45 PM
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No
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:44 PM
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Well they mostly aren’t from my experience. I’ve gotten laid from bars and other places way more than nightclubs. I can’t speak for everyone. If you got laid a high percentage from clubs great, but usually I don’t hear many guys getting laid from clubs much, so to me you are an anomaly.
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:43 PM
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A true alpha by my definition is the one most dominant in a social or sexual situation. If the true alpha caves into jokes by some funny fat guy and “finds it impossible to do anything but laugh” (including seducing women) he is not dominant anymore thus not a true alpha. A true alpha can laugh at jokes for sure, but he won’t let that stop him from doing anything else. Also he doesn’t give a fuck about “looking” like an anti social retard, because he’s dominant and usually the leader .. people f…
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:35 PM
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So, tell women you want to have sex with them when you approach and focus on that.
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:33 PM
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I’d say that’s true for 90% of guys. But you’re not OP, was hoping he’d answer.
/r/seduction31/05/19 12:33 PM
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No you look exactly the same.
/r/seduction31/05/19 11:15 AM
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Fair enough. I think it’s unecessary though.
/r/seduction31/05/19 10:07 AM
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Hey brother we think alike. I like your points. Only thing I don’t really agree with is flirting much or treating like she’s my younger sister. But being direct and assuming attraction and putting yourself first, all good shit.
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:33 AM
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No you don’t understand my question. What is it you really want from the girl?
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:25 AM
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I think if you spend money in any form to get laid you’re either a trick or a sucker. And what you or your friends are doing is not representative of seduction. All you’re doing is getting gold diggers who will fuck you as long as you buy them shit. I personally don’t spend a single dollar on a woman before I bang them at least once. The exception is maybe the cab fair, that’s about it. But sometimes the girl pays that too. I would only ever buy a great dinner for a woman who I love and who I kn…
/r/seduction31/05/19 09:10 AM
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Good choice man. I threw out video games a long time ago (used to take up a lot of my time) and I never drink alone (probably would make me depressed). Also my Mac locks itself out at night so I have no access to porn at night. Doing that really made it easy for me to go out every weekend because otherwise I’d have to sit at home and read a book ... fuck that.
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:37 AM
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No one “has to” go out alone. But if that’s what you prefer go ahead. I know I prefer to go out alone every weekend. For me I enjoy the results of sex but also the process of letting women know that I want to have sex with them.
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:35 AM
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What is it you are trying to communicate to the girl when you approach her?
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:32 AM
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Damn ... you’re easily satisfied if dancing with a girl is a great night for you. Is your long term goal to rack up conversations and dances with girls? Or do you eventually want to get laid or get a girlfriend?
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:29 AM
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What’s a great night? Are you saying 33% of nightclubs you get laid? Coz I doubt that. Nightclubs seem to be full of cockteasers in general and I don’t recommend them for getting laid. For talking, flirting, grinding, and making out with hot chicks sure, but for sex, hell no.
/r/seduction31/05/19 06:13 AM
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I didn’t know I had people that follow my stuff. That’s interesting. But yeah I stand by what I said a true alpha wouldn’t get thrown off by a funny fat guy.
/r/seduction31/05/19 04:34 AM
1

How would you know what guys who get laid do with their free time? I have enough time to sit on reddit, get laid, pickup, study and do Muay Thai. There’s 16 hours a day besides sleep and I have a phone. Also I’m not hot .. I just know how to be ballsy, approach and seduce. I’m probably a 6/10 in looks.
/r/seduction31/05/19 03:13 AM
2

If an alpha gets thrown off by a funny fat guy, he ain’t a true alpha.
/r/seduction31/05/19 02:46 AM
1

Well now you’re contradicting yourself. Truth is being blatant about your desires about sex is fine and it works, and pretending you don’t just want sex also works, but since both work I’m definitely gonna prefer to be honest over manipulative.
/r/seduction31/05/19 01:31 AM
1

Absolutely. Check out Mode One by Alan Roger Currie
/r/seduction31/05/19 01:20 AM
3

Wrong. You can act like all you want is sex and this can be effective.
/r/seduction31/05/19 01:19 AM
1

Who said I’m bragging? I’m stating the truth.
/r/seduction31/05/19 01:16 AM
1

i agree about not putting up a bullshit front. Making jokes IS a bullshit front though! You’re contradicting yourself. We’re not all seinfield and making a woman at ease is not our job.
/r/seduction31/05/19 01:11 AM
2

Yes. Sex is great. I don’t care so much about the challenge. I do it to get laid. I think some guys like challenging themselves so much they make sex really hard to get.
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:47 PM
2

This is gay. Never use these lines. Use balls.
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:45 PM
3

Are you autistic?
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:45 PM
1

This is a valuable opportunity for any man. I experienced this myself growing up with an alpha friend. The opportunity can teach you to become more dominant or influential than ever. Solutions: Avoid alpha friend as much as possible and get laid (sigma) Be more dominant than your alpha friend and get laid (alpha) Be more submissive than your alpha friend and feel like a helpless victim. Maybe hope he throws you some pussy your way. (beta) Choose wisely. There’s no wrong answers but the point is …
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:41 PM
2

No. Only indirect and manipulative approaches work.
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:14 PM
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What are you afraid of ... really? “Hey there’s that guy I dated, he’s approaching girls! What a loser! Haha haha haha. Look at me I’ve moved on and he’s desperate.” Do you really think a girl is gonna think all that? Maybe if she’s real judgemental and weird. Or perhaps ... “Hey there’s that guy I dated. Oh he’s talking to another girl. Hmm. Wonder if I should say hi or not.” Either way ... why give a fuck about either of those reactions? They don’t affect you.
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:13 PM
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Picking up girls is not creepy though. Only if you’re a creep it is.
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:10 PM
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That doesn’t make me wrong .. actually you’ve just proven how wrong you are even more. You have shown you lack the ability to comprehend my comment and assume I am saying you are non-judgemental towards OP’s relationship. Never said that. I repeat, you didn’t empathise with OP’s emotions of self-disgust. And now you are not empathising/understanding my comment.
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:39 PM
0

You resent me and judge me as a tool because of the way I worded my original comment?
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:30 PM
1

Hello Freud!
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:28 PM
1

I feel this is true. I’m fairly handsome, and I get laid with average to good looking girls. I’ve always found ugly/fucked up girls to be real insecure or mentally damaged in some way and they reject MORE. Most guys assume if you’re rejected by ugly girls then you can’t get laid at all, but it’s not like that in reality.
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:25 PM
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It’s funny for you to imagine that I am conceited and get rejected by ugly girls because I must be so hideous ... is that right?
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:22 PM
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“Who cares?” Uhh OP cares. Clearly you didn’t empathise with his emotions of self-disgust. He doesn’t give a fuck about experience, or a great blowjob, not when he’s breaking his own standards or absent of them. Try to understand that, otherwise don’t bother commenting.
/r/seduction30/05/19 02:22 PM
1

Just look at the girl and smirk. And say “is this guy your dad? He sure does love to protect you. Anyway let’s talk in private .. “ and then lead her somewhere else. But really you should be working. And stop getting so pissed off over one girl or one idiot cockblocker. If you approach girls outside of work there’s a limitless abundance and you wouldn’t concern yourself with these trivial problems.
/r/seduction30/05/19 02:20 PM
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So are you saying you have absolutely no interest in strictly casual sex? It turns you off or makes you feel regretful? Or do you want to have sex only in the contexts of a long term relationship? Or are you ok with casual sex as long as you know upfront that that is what it is?
/r/seduction30/05/19 02:16 PM
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I’ve ALMOST done it a few times. Thankfully during those times the ugly/fucked up girls rejected me, but then I realised later they were ugly/fucked op and I was grateful they rejected me but still disgusted I even attempted it. Normally I do this when I’m really horny and I think it’ll be easy. Otherwise I usually go for hot chicks.
/r/seduction30/05/19 01:33 PM
0

Good luck
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:19 AM
1

Pay me $50 and I’ll answer your questions.
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:15 AM
1

Letting a random (or not) woman know you want to hook up with her in a cocky and dominant manner, and making sure to be specific with plans. Dirty talking in a woman’s ear who has some interest in you and arousing her to the point where she is craving to fuck you. Physically escalating on a random (or not) woman who lets you in her space and gives you positive signs Paying a hooker for sex
/r/seduction30/05/19 10:07 AM
1

Do you want coffee with her? Or sex?
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:51 AM
3

Karma karma karma. Stop playing games with girls and girls won’t be able to play games with you.
/r/seduction30/05/19 09:51 AM
2

“he isn't afraid of disagreeing with me, and because he doesn't need women.. The biggest one for me would be that he isn't a people pleaser--I love that about him.” That’s all confidence. You love confidence in a man. “A guy's confidence is not what I respond to. I mostly look at men with confidence as arrogant or full of themselves. Unconfident men can have their own charm to them.” And then you claim you don’t respond to confidence. BULL-Fucking-Shit.
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:44 AM
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Wtf is good game. You’re ether talking about casual sex or relationship/marriage type sex. For casual sexual I repeat humour is a turn off. Even natural humour does nothing to further sex.
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:35 AM
1

It doesn’t really matter. I call you a prude that’s just how I categorise. But you don’t need to accept that label. Haha if you think most women are like you, you really don’t know the women in the world. It’s blatantly obvious to me in my life experiences and observations that most women love casual sex (if with a dominant, confident man that has some chemistry). Yeah your friends are probably “having a preference for monogamous sex only.” (See how long that takes to write .. prude is easier)
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:34 AM
1

There is no best way, there’s many ways to effectively get laid. But flattery is worse than most ways because it just gives women what they crave without creating any tension or moving sex along.
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:30 AM
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Gonna be blunt here. No one cares how you look at it. We care about what you and women RESPOND to. Women generally get with confident guys that’s a fact. You are an example of this.
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:46 AM
1

I don’t approve of that and that’s not what I meant. But you do you.
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:41 AM
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Hmm that’s not helpful and it’s inaccurate. You don’t know what my job is or what it’s not. Searching for the truth and waking people up is in my mission statement and part of my values. So it is actually “my job.” Also just realised you’re not even OP. shakes my head in disapproval
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:39 AM
1

Where could you find adventurous and friendly people?
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:20 AM
1

So you long for more friends and social adventures? And you struggle to commit to anything?
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:13 AM
4

Depends on how you approach. If you approach with flattery .. no shit women get conceited. If you approach mainly just talking about your desires in a cocky way ... nah women get frustrated but want to bang you eventually. Flattery is actually the worst way to get laid imo.
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:06 AM
4

No. You don’t need to scare the fuck out a girl to get in her pants.
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:04 AM
5

He sounds absolutely confident. So you may not care, but you’re being attracted to him and he is confident.
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:04 AM
0

For casual sex, I agree with ced NOT ched. Forced humour is a turn OFF when it comes to casual sex. You’re better off being serious.
/r/seduction28/05/19 12:03 AM
1

So ultimately ... you’re afraid of the woman figuring you out, realising you’re not good enough for her, and rejecting you?
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:57 PM
1

What are you really afraid of if you talk to a woman and let her know your desires?
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:52 PM
2

Wrf are you talking about dude. Don’t quit. You were doing well with banana chick. Now do this 1000 more times. Go out and approach more chicks. Get rejected and learn to be comfortable with it. Sooner or later you’ll start getting laid and relationships and you’ll be comfortable with that too.
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:39 PM
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How can I wake every guy up to the realities of women and how they enjoy casual sex more than men, and that a lot of women are actually fake prudes? I need help with waking men up to this reality without evoking angry defensiveness e.g “that’s not true! My gf is loyal! You’re just bitter!”
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:32 PM
5

Define high value.
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:31 PM
0

Ah ok yep yep. You’re a genuine prude. Not an insult btw. Just that if you do have casual sex you regret it, and so you look for relationships. You are like in the top 5-1% of women. Most women love casual sex and either make this obvious or PRETEND to be prudish. Lot of fake prudes out there.
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:17 PM
1

Why have you decided to abstain from casual sex while travelling? Were your friends in relationships? Were you afraid for your safety of going with a man while in another country? Very curious.
/r/seduction27/05/19 11:07 PM
1

So you’re a complete prude? You didn’t even think about fucking? I would say if that’s true, you and your friend group are in the 1%. But seriously women (most of them) love to fuck on holidays when they are single. It adds to their fun. Edit: just looked at your history. You have a boyfriend. I mean duh. Of course your not gonna fuck other guys if you’re loyal to your bf. I was talking about single girls.
/r/seduction27/05/19 10:51 PM
1

Haha shame all the downvoted. You guys do NOT like the harsh reality. But no not all, just 99% of the single ones who don’t go with family. If they’re not initially looking to fuck, they go ahead and fuck anyway. It’s the best place for them to let loose without fear of judgement of being thought of as a “slut.”
/r/seduction27/05/19 10:22 PM
3

Exactly my point. Young girls (20s - 30s) especially any girls who go on vacation ENJOY casual sex. Then when they come home to some needy guy of course they’re gonna dump the guy.
/r/seduction27/05/19 02:07 PM
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I’m gonna be blunt with you with an underlying compassion. If she’s not going with family and is going by herself or with single friends, there is a 99% chance she’s gone fuck one or more guys while on that trip. And you sound too attached to her. She is interested in you but she’s gonna fuck other dudes. And you’re probably not fucking other girls and spending most of your time thinking of her. This imbalance won’t work out well for you. My advice is start picking up other girls and banging the…
/r/seduction27/05/19 02:05 PM
1

How old are you ? And how old is she?
/r/seduction27/05/19 12:26 PM
1

Stop caring so much about a girl getting pissed off. Just do you.
/r/seduction27/05/19 12:21 PM
10

Thank you for the warm compliment.
/r/seduction27/05/19 07:43 AM
0

Please OP DON’T get into these guys. They’re manipulative and you will never feel good getting laid this way. Try Alan Roger Currie.
/r/seduction27/05/19 07:28 AM
1

Thanks for your well thought out contribution. So let me make sure I understand you .. are you saying the more game one learns, the more insecure they are? And that being good with women is not something that can be learned ?
/r/seduction27/05/19 07:21 AM
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The majority of puas also use manipulative tactics to get laid. If they were honest from the start with women they wouldn’t feel so bad about casual sex. There’s nothing unhealthy or wrong with going for casual sex even in high quantities. It’s when you break your moral code that you start to despise the thing you’re doing. 99% pickup stuff is manipulative. But that doesn’t mean seduction and casual sex is bad. I follow Alan Roger Currie coz he teaches honest seduction and I always feel good eve…
/r/seduction27/05/19 07:03 AM
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Too much analysis from guys here when the reality is no one knows what’s in her mind. It depends on your values. If a girl has a boyfriend do you care or not about fucking her behind his back? If you don’t care, pursue her until she firmly rejects you or sleeps with you. If you do value and respect other people’s relationships, then don’t pursue. And even if she is lying about having a boyfriend as some kind of test, treat it like she actually has a boyfriend and again take the right action your…
/r/seduction27/05/19 06:48 AM
2

If it’s a shit test, he would pass it by moving on.
/r/seduction27/05/19 06:45 AM
1

Are you curious to know if it works for me? I can answer that right now, yes ... yes it does very much. I’ve found when I spend heaps of time on any pursuit even (especially) to the point of being obsessed, I get results. How about you? Are you getting what you want out of women?
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:58 AM
1

Thanks for sharing your opinion. For me casual sex and picking up women is in line with my long term goals and visions and I like putting plenty of time into it even at an obsessive level. I don’t consider that to be unhealthy unless it hurts other areas of my life which it doesn’t.
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:53 AM
1

So you’re saying being obsessed with casual sex and picking up women is unhealthy?
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:12 AM
0

Lol I literally just said why it’s so good. Read it bro and form your own judgement.
/r/seduction26/05/19 04:13 AM
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Take care.
/r/seduction26/05/19 03:41 AM
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I’m a fan. His shit works for me well great, saves me time and is also ethical unlike 99% of pua stuff.
/r/seduction26/05/19 03:40 AM
1

Exactly you’re retarded.
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:44 AM
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Mode One by Alan Roger Currie. And Ooh Say it again by Alan Roger Currie.
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:34 AM
2

No. It’s not just what I’m not looking for, it’s not good half this community. Most guys here are trying to get laid and seduce women. Some want girlfriends but some just want casual sex. What I’m saying is Mark ignores half of the men in this community by teaching how to get a girlfriend. (Even if he says it will also help you get laid, the info is focused on getting a Gf) The polzarisiation chapter is good for that I agree. But then he goes into storytelling and a bunch of other shit which wil…
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:33 AM
1

I like his humble bragging :p But yeah Alan’s books and audiobooks have PLENTY of useful info. His humble bragging is usually during videos or maybe in his book “ooh say it again” but most of what talks about is useful info and the stories he uses helps me understand his advice. Alan is straight to the point and tells you what you need to get laid and what you need to get laid a whole lot more and how to eliminate timewasters and cockteasers. Models I’d say has a lot of unnecessary info. . Mark …
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:25 AM
2

Oh yeah absolutely agreed. That’s what I stated basically originally. That’s what I call indirect. Because it’s not really honest when deep down you want to fuck or want a girlfriend and you act like a friend and “build rapport.” That shit will make you needy and weak and no amount of hobbies is going to fix that. I feel enlightened after being direct properly ... really changed the way I interact with women now.
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:21 AM
2

Yep that’s my view. And if you have a good wingman definitely use him of course, but if not give it your best shot.
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:19 AM
4

Well it’s similar to that ... but that phrasing isn’t the best. I usually say “when do you wanna hookup? This weekend or the next?” It sounds more smooth and cocky. I’m not really asking permission because I initially assume she wants to fuck but at the same time I respect her decision if she says “never” etc.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:40 AM
1

Nope. Speak for yourself. I never get attached to girls who reject me after I was direct with them.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:38 AM
1

That’s great you approach man. But the fact that you got all defensive shows me you either have a thin skin to criticism (not good for seduction) or I touched a nerve because something I said may be partially true. Something to think about.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:35 AM
1

Then why ask a stupid question if you ain’t gonna believe the answer.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:34 AM
2

Yesss agreed
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:32 AM
6

That’s lame pua shit. Have you even gotten this to work? “Befriend the friend” fuck thaaattt lol I just talk to the girl I’m into and the friends leave me alone because I’m honest and assertive. Not always but sometimes and that’s good enough.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:14 AM
1

And? I mean that’s saying the obvious ...
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:01 AM
1

How much talk though? I’ve had several seductions/fucks with girls where I barely said more than 10 words to her. Seriously.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:00 AM
1

493
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:58 AM
2

Thanks for your point. I’ve went back and forth on this. It’s a bit more complicated than it seems. There are some girls who are attracted but because they are more submissive and due to social pressure don’t say anything. But there are plenty more girls who will tell their friends to back off I’ve seen that happen quite a few times when the girl is into the guy. So I’d say if the girl likes you but is real submissive she’ll probably let her friend cockblock her, but it’s more than likely she is…
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:51 AM
1

Letting a woman know I want to hookup with her. And doing this with thousands of women. ... or paying for it
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:45 AM
1

Stop being a pussy man. When you have a crisis resolve it, then go talk to girls. I doubt you have crises 365 days a year. These are just excuses because deep down you’re scared of rejection or judgement from women or others. You need to learn to step INTO fear NOT away from it. Read Mode One by Alan Roger Currie, it’s a good book which takes BALLS which is something you need to get.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:38 AM
3

I sometimes say the same shit on my opener, sometimes I don’t am spontaneous and unique with my words. Don’t be concerned with what anyone thinks other than yourself.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:32 AM
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$38 million,m
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:31 AM
1

Mode One by Alan Roger Currie. Ooh say it again by Alan Roger Currie. Dress well, and smell nice. That’s about all you need I reckon.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:25 AM
1

No. They’re good for skydiving that’s why I really go to them.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:21 AM
6

The message about sex won’t make you happy is a silly message. No fucking shit sex won’t make you happy. Are you kidding? Happiness is from within. And 99% of us don’t have it including OP. The only ones that are genuinely happy are people like Buddha who have attained enlightenment. We’re all craving pleasures and avoiding pain. Shallow sex is just one more craving, but meaningful relationships is ALSO a craving. When the relationship is over how do you feel? Shit. It’s not true happiness. My m…
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:17 AM
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About $4 for transport to and from. I have consession though. I’m from Australia. I don’t buy food or alcohol when out, and I go to free bars.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:11 AM
3

If cockblockers cockblock you, you can count it as a rejection from the girl. Seriously if she was attracted to you she’d stop her friends cockblocking her. Also a simple “hi I’d like to talk to you alone for a minute.” while giving a quick glance to the friends and then back to the girl has worked for me sometimes. Also this is why daygame is better. Girls are more often alone in the daytime. At night they tend to be in big groups.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:09 AM
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I’ve found a great way which killed my neediness. Basically direct game. When I put women in a situation of having to say yes or no to my desires, I either get what I want or am rejected. And when I’m rejected I move on and it’s no big deal since I didn’t waste much time. If I get what I want, great. This attitude made me way less needy. I think a problem with indirect game is you are never sure if you’re gonna get laid and so you may waste heaps of time with a girl and get attached and needy to…
/r/seduction25/05/19 11:57 PM
3

Not sarcasm. I’m different to most guys on here. Most guys will tell you to physically escalate slowly, and that does work sometimes, and sometimes it doesn’t. I don’t advocate it. Now days you can get sexual assault charges because of the metoo and yes means yes movement and all that. Verbal directness clears out any room for misinterpretation and makes it clear why you’re coming. A woman can’t claim “I thought he was coming over for movies and then he started touching me inappropriately” if yo…
/r/seduction25/05/19 11:22 PM
1

Great post. Good to see encouragement of improvement for men. Yeah, I think women will never get tired of wanting sex from men, it’s deeply ingrained in most women to want to produce babies, and around 99% of women love the pleasure of good sex anyway. As for pickup, I think a lot of women are incredibly intuitive and a fair amount of women have heard it all. Including most of the pua “routines” from guys like mystery. However, if a woman is very attracted or likes the guy it doesn’t even matter…
/r/seduction25/05/19 11:18 PM
1

Who cares. This is /r/seduction. Not /r/understandwomen. If you spend your days trying to figure women out completely you’ll go nuts. Just focus on what you want from them. Not why they do the things they do.
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:33 PM
2

I disagree about cockiness vs confidence. Be cocky. It gets women wet.
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:29 PM
1

Tell her you’re gonna fuck her when you come over.
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:24 PM
1

I was kidding about the 89% no one has that rate lol I ain’t gonna give you examples man coz then you’ll just memorise them and you won’t be able to own them. Just be confident and say what you want from the girl. And the lines will work themselves out.
/r/seduction25/05/19 02:40 PM
1

Why not? 89%
/r/seduction25/05/19 02:08 PM
7

You’re right to be concerned with this. As you are an autistic person struggling with cognitive empathy ... seduction can be dangerous for you as you may accidentally assault a woman since you may struggle to know consent via non verbal cues. In my opinion you should work on verbal game and getting consent from women via smooth talk. This will help you get sex without too much trouble. Read up Alan Roger Currie.
/r/seduction25/05/19 01:58 PM
2

They’re not pickup lines. They’re questions a man with balls asks.
/r/seduction25/05/19 11:11 AM
1

Yes. But don’t copy it word for word. It’s not the words that get you laid it’s the attitude and if she is into you to some degree.
/r/seduction25/05/19 10:12 AM
1

The same anywhere else ... let her know why you’re honestly talking to her. And also do it confidently and fearlessly. Make sure whatever you say your body language and tonality reflect those qualities. If you speak quietly or stutter you’re gonna get shit reactions. Be confident.
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:55 AM
1

Slightly. I’d say talk to the girls at the bar or in the smoking area or just outside the bar, you have a better chance with them. Especially girls who smoke they are down to fuck usually if you are their type and they are available. But avoid the dancefloor for sex. That’s where guys get horny and girls get attention, guys may get a hot makeout a grind and/or flakey number but rarely if ever i have ever seen a guy cold approach a girl on the dancefloor and go home with her. I mean it does happe…
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:35 AM
1

You seem to be contradicting yourself. And I don’t think this opinion of yours is actually yours .. it sounds regurgitated from somewhere else .. pretty sure I’ve read these exact words from other puas. You’re just spreading your insecurities and shit you’ve heard ... you’ve never done a study on women and yet you say “most” as if you know women. And I doubt you get laid much so I’m done conversing with you. Have a good day.
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:34 AM
0

Sure there’s many ways to show confidence ... but I mean you can be confident in basketball but that doesn’t a woman will get turned on by your high level of confidence in basketball. When it comes to confidence with women you can’t fucking seek their approval that’s the basic way to lose your confidence and sense of self. I’m drilling this hard because I hate to see guys repeat fundamental mistakes. Some guys do it for their whole life! My game I learnt from Alan Roger Currie. If you want to kn…
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:31 AM
1

No. You’re talking a different point than I am. What you’re saying is IF a girl is a liar or confused about what she likes. Not every girl is like that, some are honest and self-aware, know their type and yet still make the occasional exception ... so you’re generalising and you’re not rebutting my point.
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:26 AM
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Read “Oooooh say it again” by Alan Roger Currie. It’s real, direct, authentic game. No deceit not tricks no gimmicks. The catch is it takes some deep understanding, practice and huge fucking balls. 99% of guys on this sub will not do it out of fear and find excuses and explanations as to why it’s “bad game” and then go back to their manipulative games. You seem like a genuine guy who has had a fair amount of success and you want to be honest but still get laid a lot so I recommend you that book.
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:21 AM
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If that’s how you naturally speak go right ahead ;) I prefer using more relaxed language though ...
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:14 AM
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Girls are similar to guys on this. Some have types, some don’t, some have a type but are willing to make exceptions. But the reality is not every girl will be into you no matter what you do.
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:11 AM
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I’m not insulted solely by your dismissing. I’m insulted because you’re forming your opinion based on others experience and THEN dismissing, that is one my pet peeves. Cowards research and analyse like nerds and then debate pickup theories for years without ever approaching more than 10 girls, it’s absolutely pathetic. I know what works based on ACTUAL experience in my own life so I can say with confidence what works for me. You can only say the same when you experiment and try for yourself. Sto…
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:50 AM
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So much cringe. You don’t get laid do you? This is the worst way to get laid. Make self deprecating jokes about your penis and talking about shit you don’t care about. I mean fuck ... do you think girls get wet when talking about their interests and hobbies and whatnot? C’mon ... women respond to men with balls, men with confidence. You’re not showing confidence by catering to her topics or trying to make her laugh .. that’s approval seeking behaviour. Just let a woman know what you want directl…
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:41 AM
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Don’t go in with the intention of getting blown out. But yes approach every attractive girl until you get laid or until there’s no attractive girls left. And no you don’t need routines. The reason you run out of shit to say is because you’re trying to talk about stuff you don’t care about. Just talk about what’s needed for sex e.g Where do you live? Do you have a car nearby? When do you want to sleep with me tonight or next week? Etc. be direct and then you won’t worry about how to keep a convo …
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:13 AM
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Yeah exactly. Hell I raise you. If you sit at home and jerk off to porn, girls from the club will realise you’re non needy pickup those vibes come to your house and fuck you. *rolls eyes
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:10 AM
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I agree. Daygame is generally easier for points you mentioned. But nightgame has its advantages. We shouldn’t always do what is easiest in life. Nightgame can sharpen you assertiveness, boundaries, backbone, persistence, resilience, confidence, and some of the girls are very hot and more relaxed about sex when they have had a few drinks or even just because they’re out at night. So it’s really a personal preference. I find daygame easier but I still prefer nightgame because I like a challenge an…
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:43 AM
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Yes I have. I think in general nightclubs are not good places to get laid whether you are alone or with a wingman. Yes there’s an absolute abundance of hot girls. But most of them are actually just out for attention, fun, and like to cocktease guys with no intention of sex. Granted there a few that you could fuck if you play the numbers game hard and have good game. New guys tend to go to nightclubs a lot, but I prefer bars and street approaches better. Anyway if you do nightclubs, having a GOOD…
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:39 AM
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Idk but she sounds weird.
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:37 AM
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That’s if you’re a chump beta male.
/r/seduction25/05/19 03:16 AM
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Remember the pain of regret next time. And approach fast.
/r/seduction25/05/19 02:58 AM
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They do think that too. But the good thing is you have a reason for approaching a girl and you can tell them that I.e “I like the look of you and I want to hookup with you sometime” etc. but with men you don’t even have a real reason other than “hey man I’m just talking to you to practice my confidence coz I’m socially awkward” you could say that but it’s a little pathetic.
/r/seduction25/05/19 02:57 AM
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What are you afraid would happen if you approached a good looking girl? Rejection? So what? You’ll live. Criticism or judgement? So what? You’ll live. Being attacked by a jealous guy nearby? You’ll probably live through that too, usually there’s bouncers. So there’s nothing to lose and plenty to gain, so just go for it. Regret is worse than any of that.
/r/seduction25/05/19 02:50 AM
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Who gives a fuck what other men and the pua community think. The fact that you think so much about them is unmanly. Just do what works for you (as long as it’s ethical)
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:52 PM
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Ok ... so basically you disagreed with me without any real experience of giving or getting numbers. Go out and find for yourself which is better by experience. Theoretically debating is a waste of both our time.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:51 PM
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But please I haven’t seen you in so long ... surely all this time you’ve stayed away from me, you owe me some sex? Or maybe at least a platonic hangout with some kissing? Hell I’d even take a date and pay you just to come out. Please oh please just see me or explain why you won’t see me so I can try to convince you. I am an empty vessel without you and I need you to make my life meaningful. If you want to fuck other guys I am ok with that too if it means I can see you as a friend, I’ll act relax…
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:36 PM
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You don’t need to say it. Your whole post reads like a needy loser is what he is basically saying.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:33 PM
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There’s nothing you can do to save this. You’ve already crashed and burned. You’re too weak, needy, and desperate for her sexual and/or platonic companionship. The girl is absolutely turned off and/or creeped out by you. How to avoid in future? Read Mode One by Alan Roger Currie.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:31 PM
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She isn’t attracted to you. Next.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:27 PM
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Generally it’s the worst place to pickup. It’s like asking “how can I get paid a high income working as a zookeeper?” You can laid occasionally if your game is good but most girls are on the dance floor to “have fun”, get attention, and they will often reject guys to make themselves appear more wanted, or cocktease and grind you to make themselves feel sexy with no intentions of having sex with you. So I know they’re sexy to look at but my advice is turn your eyes on the bar and talk to girls wh…
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:26 PM
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So how has taking womens numbers been working for you?
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:21 PM
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Best thing to do is give your number to the girl, let her call and text you. It means you know she is down if she initiates a text or call, plus problems like yours won’t happen because you can just input your number directly in.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:43 PM
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Great work realising and getting back into action and learning. Your ex sounds like a drama queen. I’d definitely avoid her even if she comes crawling back. Looks are not worth all the drama and conflict and ups and downs, too much stress.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:38 PM
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Yes go for it. If ever a guy friend of mine encourages me, I definitely make a move. Because if OTHERS can see chemistry ... it’s probably there and you’re being too much of a pussy to realise it or do something about it. So what if she rejects you? Who cares. You’re a man not a boy right? You can take it and deal with some potential awkwardness if it comes to that. Now go make a move and do it confidently and boldly in person.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:34 PM
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Ok best to keep it simple. Ask yourself “what do I want with this girl?” When you see her Let her know the answer to this in a confident and fearless manner If you do that you succeed. If you don’t you fail. Whether she rejects you, criticised you, or fucks you doesn’t matter. Your success is if you do the approach with confidence and fearlessness. If you define it like that, it will reduce a lot of anxiety. Just focus on those two things and empty out all other thoughts, and walk on over and ta…
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:31 PM
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The reason is ... they are thinking ... “why is this guy talking to me? What does he really want?” And you need to answer that question to put them at ease. Otherwise they may assume the worst that you are a salesman, conman, criminal, weirdo etc. and they’ll want to end the conversation. For me personally... I never talk to men because I have no reason to. I only talk to attractive women when out and I let them know why I’m talking to them (to sleep with them)
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:27 PM
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Mature response and empathically worded. Great comment.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:24 PM
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Holy shit. You shouldn’t have left this out in the original post. She’s damn right making a pussy out of you and tearing away at any confidence you have left. You need to be extremely fucking dominant now, NOT for the relationship, but for yourself and your own sense of self-esteem. Tell her “I don’t like those names. If you disrespect me again like that, I won’t give you another warning and we’ll be done.” (And follow through with dumping her if she does do it again) In reality you should have …
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:18 PM
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There is pretty much nothing. UNLESS you are actually willing to walk/break up with her and have other options for sex with other great girls. A girl KNOWS she has the power when you become attached to her, and when you lose other options etc.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:12 PM
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Yeah. His focus is actually on showing your intentions upfront and specifically whether they be sexual or otherwise, but since 99.99% of men are approaching women with an underlying motive of sex (even if they are looking for a monogamous relationship they still want long term sex) he talks a lot about that.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:06 PM
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Well go ahead and cringe then man. Hell I’ve heard girls use the terms alpha and beta before too. They are loose definitions but they mean something to the people using them so if you judge anyone who uses them I’d say that says something more about you than them.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:02 PM
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Nope. That’s literally it. Very attractive guys can just open and close, and in some case girls will open and all they have to do is close. No need to work on personality for sex.
/r/seduction24/05/19 02:01 PM
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I mean go trough my history if you want. I don’t think I’ve ever asked for help on this sub. I am usually here out of boredom and helping others, this is the equivalent of me eating junk food. I don’t try to be alpha, but I think there’s nothing wrong with doing that when you clearly are a beta or a loser or a coward. It’s great to incorporate qualities you don’t have by practicing to be them. Like confidence, dominance, fearlessness etc. that’s my opinion anyway. You honestly sound like you’re …
/r/seduction24/05/19 01:12 PM
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Stay off Instagram in future. Never let a women intimidate you. Always make the move man. I mean there’s nothing more to be said. Don’t bitch out. If it hurts you bitching out stop doing it.
/r/seduction24/05/19 11:13 AM
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Ok I definitely understand this problem. And none of the relpliers here really get hit. Listen to me. You went in, and you did a pleasant and/or entertaining and/or flirty approach .. am I right? You thought it was good because she was smiling or maybe play hitting you or whatever. She doesn’t respond to your phone calls or text later on. Do you know why? Because she was never fucking into you romantically and/or sexually. Now you’re thinking “why the fuck did she waste all my time then?” Well w…
/r/seduction24/05/19 11:07 AM
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This guy fucks
/r/seduction24/05/19 11:02 AM
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Those coaches sound shit to be honest. Small talk won’t get you laid either, it’s the best way NOT to get laid and be put in the friend/acquaintance zone. I highly recommend Alan Roger Currie, he will teach you how to get laid in an ethical way and improve your balls massively, but you need to be willing to feel fear because trust me it ain’t easy.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:58 AM
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Yes. I got email consultation from a coach who I read books from and I only needed 5 emails with him and applying to vastly improve my confidence and abilities. Haven’t got much sex yet sill but now there’s a definite hope because I’m actually taking loads more confident action, and have had several close calls, only a matter of time now.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:56 AM
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Why do you wanna talk about yourself?
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:52 AM
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Great job for approaching. Lots of guys don’t.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:50 AM
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Are you scared of rejection or criticism from women? I would argue those two fears are the main reason guys turn to manipulative and “technical” game. It gives them the illusion they are closer to lots of sex. And of course the pua gurus love making money off it. Truth is it can and does work but not much more then simply walking up to women and being honest and confident and attempting to close does. I would rather the latter though coz it’s simpler and I feel better being ethical too. Being ho…
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:44 AM
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Great post, thanks for sharing. I disagree. Focusing on having a quality helps me have that quality.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:39 AM
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Sounds extremely frustrating.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:34 AM
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That is an excellent point as you talk about learning from direct mistakes as compared to the mistakes of others. I’m sure in future it won’t be too difficult for you to word that less righteously and with less generalising and get your point across to others better in future. I agree with you in some cases and I think you have some great wisdom to offer this sub. Thanks.
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:18 AM
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Well there’s different kinds of game. Technical based game is where you memorise a bunch of shit, lines, routines and learn fake techniques like compliance tests, and negging etc. to me this shit is unnecessary , a waste of time, and manipulative. Then there’s principle based game. It is still needed to be learnt, internalised and practiced. But the principles are much simpler and easy to remember and you don’t have to memorise what to say, or do odd techniques. Principle based gam could be like…
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:06 AM
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If you’re attractive you don’t need to seduce, you only need to approach and close.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:53 AM
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this is why it gets hated on, coz who has the time or memory to remember all this shit which isn’t even needed.
/r/seduction24/05/19 09:52 AM
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If you’re approaching with confident body language and voice and you get Instant rejections, that’s great news. It means you did everything in your control and you just came across girls who aren’t into you and they are saving you time. Never be discouraged by rejection unless that’s ALL your approaches resulting in and/or you’re not approaching with confidence. Also a girl asking you questions isn’t always good news. What’s she asking you questions about? If she asks about your job, education, …
/r/seduction19/05/19 12:53 AM
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absolutely. I go out alone every week, it’s second nature to me.
/r/seduction19/05/19 12:12 AM
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Stop using Snapchat.
/r/seduction19/05/19 12:09 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly. Except in my opinion never follow a Pua. Follow a dating coach or seduction coach. Any “pua” who advocates anything less than direct honesty or to use manipulative tricks stay clear from. You will end up a slimy creep like your guru. Follow someone who gets laid in an ethical and honest way.
/r/seduction19/05/19 12:08 AM
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Good job. Going out of your comfort zone is a success to me. Next time your comfort zone will be bigger so do something bigger.
/r/seduction19/05/19 12:06 AM
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Don’t come as a friend. Completely leave her alone. She’s already rejected you sexually, and you’re trying to sneak in something and hopefully turn her no into a yes. You can only turn resistance into a yes, but a firm rejection means you leave her alone, if she doesn’t have what you want. If you can’t take no for an answer there is something very wrong with your mind and I hope you don’t end up a rapist or manipulator in future.
/r/seduction19/05/19 12:02 AM
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Yes leave her alone. Cancel the dates. And tell her “we’re looking for different things. I enjoyed my time with you. Take care.”
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:44 PM
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Ok leave her alone.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:38 PM
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Get to the point or make a tldr next time. Most of what you wrote was a waste of space. So what you need to do is get therapy, stop smoking pot, stop playing video games, and start approaching girls. If it pains you to do this, tough. You can either accept the pain of your stuck ness or accept the pain of change, up to you.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:37 PM
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Define “went quite well” If by that you mean they responded positively with smiles etc. but didn’t fuck you. That to me is NOT quite well. It’s funny but women often criticise and react negatively initially the men they fuck. They love to fuck confident event cocky guys, but they will criticise those guys too. Girls love the “I don’t care vibe” definitely keep doing what you’re doing. Just don’t apologise for it or be insecure about it. Never ever think criticising is a bad thing. If a woman sta…
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:31 PM
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Did she firmly reject your interests for sex?
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:27 PM
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“Most people don't have some formula we enact because we realise all women are different.” Realising all women are different does not mean you can’t have the same formula. What you’re really saying is “I try to be a chameleon and change myself to avoid rejection as much as possible because I have a thin skin.” “Albeit, it might work for you, but I'd imagine every girl that follows your formula is all very similar in personality.” Key word .. “imagine.”
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:21 PM
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Nah trust me you don’t want to extend this list. You want to reduce it. My guess is you don’t approach much. In real life you cannot go through a long as fuck list like this before a beautiful girl walks off. And life is full of taking risks not playing it safe. Here’s my rules: Don’t approach a girl if she seems underage or on the line of legal, with a man, or has a ring on her ring finger. Otherwise go for it.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:01 PM
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And that’s the problem ... you’re still blind to the reality of women and the world. I won’t be able to wake you up, until something painful happens for you probably .. good luck
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:53 PM
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You’re projecting there bud ;)
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:46 PM
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Are you telling me you bring girls to your house without letting them know that you want sex ... and then start pawing at her to hopefully get her aroused through your touch so she may change her mind? That can easily lead to a sexual assault charge if she’s not down with that.
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:44 PM
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Be real. Would you have a long term relationship WITHOUT ANY sex if all the other factors were perfect?
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:58 PM
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Damn man. Sounds rapey. You shouldn’t bring a girl over to yours unless you’re sure she wants to fuck.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:01 PM
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I get enough pussy bro. Seduction is about sex not spending money. But you keep tricking if that’s what you enjoy ;)
/r/seduction18/05/19 02:59 PM
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That’s a fail imo. Why didn’t you fuck if she came to your place? Are you a cuddle buddy? Or a fuck buddy?
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:10 PM
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Sounds like a cool therapist tbh.
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:07 PM
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I highly disagree about not saying one to one. Guys who talk about “vibe” are verbal cowards. I bet my money you are indirect and are scared of harsh rejection or criticisms so you avoid saying anything specific or real to women. Being specific prevents women leading you on or controlling you like in OP’s original problem. And I agree about eye contact, tonality, and body language but that should be in conjunction with clear and specific language.
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:04 PM
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You’ve got to focus on the girl and walking there. Try to forget others and what they’re thinking of you. Once you’re there it’ll be fine, but just focus on approaching.
/r/seduction18/05/19 12:48 PM
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Literally reminding myself that the one first needs to be done fast otherwise I’m probably gonna have a shit time. That reminder pushes me to approach fast. And then doing it ASAP.
/r/seduction18/05/19 12:45 PM
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Go where the girls are and approach. Your thinking and being on this subreddit is merely you procrastinating and fearing what you need to do.
/r/seduction18/05/19 12:29 PM
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Height isn’t important. It helps but it’s not needed. Confidence. Confidence. Confidence. Get some.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:47 AM
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Just do it. You’ve got to break your ego by getting rejected once or twice hard and realise it’s no big deal. Go approach.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:44 AM
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Sex is a small part you say. I disagree. Sex is the main point. Without it you’re just platonic friends.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:34 AM
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That’s good. Being rejected is better than being taken advantage of. You’re one step closer to finding a girl that actually likes you.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:22 AM
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Don’t seduce unless she needs to be seduced. Just let her know you think she’s sexy and you want to hookup with her. Many older women appreciate directness and she may just go with it. If she tests you etc. that’s when you seduce her.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:35 AM
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So you like sex while paying for it with your time, energy and money? You call that meaningful? In my experience sex is one of the best places to get to know how a woman really is. Dates are where women put on facades and get you to buy bullshit.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:31 AM
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Just sit really really close to her. If she isn’t moving back nor leaning back nor looking uncomfortable assume she likes you to some degree. Then give her a kiss.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:29 AM
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Be super specific when you ask a girl on a date. Tell her “I want to share your company one to one this Friday.” Something like that .. make sure you say one to one. You’re getting friendzoned because you’re too chickenshit to spell out what it is you really want and girls are taking advantage of your ambiguity.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:27 AM
1

Did you have sex on the first date? What do you mean it went good?
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:25 AM
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I went straight into bold direct approaches when I started. I took ages to do my first approach though but eventually thought “fuck it.” I think it’s way better to jump in rather than do little pussy baby steps. You want to be confident, so take big leaps to get confident.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:13 AM
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Doing that screams “I don’t know who I am” it’s weak. Don’t do it. Ever. You know the man you want to be, if you’re not being that man, you can easily self-reflect without the girl’s input or feedback. Don’t be a pussy. And don’t be a sneak.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:10 AM
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If she’s gave a handjob or blowjob than yes she’s bullshitting you. Don’t blame her though, blame your shit game. It’s your job to bring out her inner freak by seducing her and arousing her with your words so she wants to have pre-marital sex with you. Getting upset is just going to solidify her decision in waiting.
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:58 AM
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Damn man lmao. Impatience is a seduction killer. That’s beginner stuff. Good you learnt it now though. It’s not that you can’t have fast passionate sex, but always make sure SHE is turned on first before you go into sex or ripping off clothes ... I recommend whispering in her ear all the things you’re going to do to her ... it works good coz you’re still showing patience and restraint while creating hot images on her mind and creating arousal in her. Then SHE will jump your bones. I learnt that …
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:56 AM
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Always approach. If there’s no boyfriend or husband ... ALWAYS approach. Their reactions don’t even matter. It’s about being the man you want to be. Don’t waste energy beating yourself up, just remember that rule and stick to it.
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:50 AM
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I’d prefer to be with secure guys not little whiny bitches like you. P.s I’m a straight guy ;) but seriously quit posting this insecure crap.
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:46 AM
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You’re gonna lose her with your attitude. Too clingy and weak. She will look for stronger man when she realises. You’re done. Enjoy the sex while it lasts.
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:44 AM
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Stop comparing yourself to the past. It’s as simple as that. Just take action and forget about being in a good mood or enjoying it. Let’s face it. You’re trying to get laid, sometimes this isn’t fun, who cares, do it anyway. Also don’t masturbate, smoke weed, or watch porn so much ... and exercise regularly, that may increase your energy/libido and excitement to approach a bit. But again don’t worry so much about your emotions or mood and just do the work. Also push yourself out of your comfort …
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:43 AM
1

Alan Roger Currie.
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:39 AM
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Why do you date? It’s just a waste of time, money and energy. Why not just get laid?
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:38 AM
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I don’t much, but it is a fairly common thing in this modern age. If you can do it, great. If not, that’s fine you can work around it.
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:41 AM
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Stop being a people pleaser, that’s very unattractive to women and people in general. Move to a western country. To talk to girls, just let them know what you want from them boldly, honestly, specifically, and confidently. That’s all you got to do.
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:39 AM
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Lol. You think way too much. And i can relate. Used to do it myself a fair few times with girls I liked. Hasn’t happened in a while and don’t think it will. My recommendation is always have many options. Usually this problem happens when ONE girls gives you something no one else does. And you obviously will get attached/needy/clingy/stupid/over texting etc. you won’t be able to control those urges for long before doing something stupid. Best thing is prevent it by getting MORE girls. Even if (an…
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:37 AM
1

Nah I saw the emoticons but I have to comment that anyway.
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:24 AM
1

I’m 25 and introverted, I just go to bars. Remember introversion doesn’t mean you can’t talk to people in social settings it just means you need some solitude to recharge at the end of the night.
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:24 AM
1

Switch to real life approaching. Embrace your anxiety and conquer it.
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:59 AM
1

Never disqualify.
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:58 AM
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Eye contact is good, keep doing it. Dw if it’s a turn off for some girls, you think way too much.
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:57 AM
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I don’t count it. Usually Saturday nights, and if I’m horny throughout the week I may talk to some more women, and if I’m bored I’ll come on here but not to learn more just to answer other noob questions and help out. Occasionally I’ll re-read the books from my mentor.
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:55 AM
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Yet you’re on reddit seduction channel.
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:54 AM
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pretty easy. You got 24 hours a day. On a weekday: 8 sleep 10 career/job/travel 3 food/other stuff/chores 3 hobby And anytime during day you see a woman talk to her. Weekends: 8 sleep 2 food/other stuff/chores 3 career building skills or hobby 10 women / approaching / reflection / learning
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:27 AM
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Knock on her door. Tell her you think she’s cute and that you want to hookup with her sometime later on. See how she responds.
/r/seduction13/05/19 03:34 PM
2

99% girls like players. They just don’t want EVERY guy being a player.
/r/seduction13/05/19 03:32 PM
1

You’re being too kind to yourself and making excuses about your age. This problem doesn’t go away with age. Experiences can trigger change but don’t count on it. Change really happens when you decide to change. Waiting for later is just a waste of time. Start now. Get other options and talk to more girls.
/r/seduction13/05/19 03:15 PM
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Magic tricks will dry up pussy, just like telling corny jokes will. Leave those tricks for your job, not for women. And don’t bring it up at all unless you’re looking for a relationship, why bother telling a casual fuck your job description? It’s unecessary.
/r/seduction13/05/19 03:02 PM
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Yeah this is true ... BUT you still need to aim for perfection imo. The moment you give yourself the excuse of “one mistake ain’t a big deal, girls forgive that.” Then you run the risk of allowing yourself to make many mistakes and then you won’t get laid. So girls do overlook mistakes occasionally. But I always aim to do my best.
/r/seduction13/05/19 03:01 PM
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You’re such a pussy lol. I’m not gonna make you cry, if you cry that’s on you. Nah but seriously you’re NOT being yourself by being needy. That’s not who you are. Get that through your head. It’s a dysfunctional pattern you have. Patterns can be changed, they don’t reflect who we are. So quit that fucking weak belief you have that “oh booo hoooo she doesn’t like me for me!” Fuck off. You really need to grow a pair of balls and realise you’ve been weak for ages and you’re gonna lose this girl and…
/r/seduction13/05/19 02:53 PM
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If you really like this girl you won’t allow yourself to get consumed with her because you know that doesn’t work and makes you needy. So if you’re being honest with yourself you will get other options to keep yourself less needy so she likes you and you can have a good relationship with her. Have an open relationship with her, talk to her about it. Don’t latch on out of insecurity. That’s not honesty it’s actually you deluding yourself by telling yourself if you hold onto her you’ll keep her ar…
/r/seduction13/05/19 02:46 PM
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Why the fuck do you care so much what people think? Neediness isn’t a complicated math process. It’s real simple ... set your goals for things within your control, and always get new options. You won’t be needy if you do those two things. Set your goals within your control Don’t set a goal to get laid, or to get a relationship. Instead set your goal to confidently approach a woman for sex, or to confidently ask a girl on a date etc. if you ask the girl for a date, you succeeded, whether she acce…
/r/seduction13/05/19 02:33 PM
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Mode one by Alan Roger Currie.
/r/seduction13/05/19 12:51 PM
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Neediness for attention and time is just as worse. Ok bye.
/r/seduction13/05/19 12:50 PM
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You’re about the 12,933 guy that has recommend Mark on this sub and appears to have seen the light. Good luck to you. I’ve read it, didn’t do shit for me, found something way better and I’m only here for boredom and helping other guys not to learn how to get laid.
/r/seduction13/05/19 06:35 AM
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If what you’re saying is “why can’t I be needy and get laid? Why can’t I be desperate and get laid? Why do I have to act relaxed and non needy?” Fair enough you want sex on a silver platter. But reality is girls will not respond well to neediness or desperation or impatience or overanxiousness or defensiveness. You’ve got to learn how to appear relaxed and non needy. Otherwise get used to wanking. Btw Loving ... is not the same as needy. Don’t confuses love with neediness.
/r/seduction13/05/19 06:27 AM
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Yeah looking at them non sexually is also known as blue pilled. Looking at them sexually and as they really are is known as red pilled. Always pick red pilled, it may seem “objectifying” but the reality is 99% of women are sexual beings, and that’s what you want from her even in the contexts of a relationships. Without sex would you really want to be with most woman long term? I doubt it.. Blue pilled perception will just get you hurt and mislead and fucked over in the long run.
/r/seduction13/05/19 06:21 AM
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This isn’t a quick fix dude. You can’t just expect us to hand you confidence through a comment. It takes many rejections and blows at your ego to increase your level of confidence with attractive women. Ultimately you’ve got to put in the work and make way more moves, take way more action, and roll with way more rejections from women so that you become relaxed and indifferent. For now fake it. Just act confident as best you can.
/r/seduction13/05/19 06:18 AM
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You can’t connect to people when you’re being dishonest. Stop being manipulative man and this will be way easier.
/r/seduction12/05/19 04:29 PM
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Also you need to work on getting a thicker skin. If me calling you out on your dishonesty makes your fragile ego explode so that you ignore everything else I said and end the discussion you will NOT be able to handle rejection and criticism from women in real life and consequently won’t get laid much because your fear will grow. So my second piece of advice is toughen up.
/r/seduction12/05/19 04:25 PM
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Sound a little defensive there. Man if my comment stirred your ego that much you need to get a way thicker skin so you can handle actual things that are much more painful in real life. Good luck to you.
/r/seduction12/05/19 04:19 PM
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You guys are gonna fail at this if you hold that mindset. You’re not right and neither am I. We just have different perceptions. You can see it from a “I need to feel good to act” or “I’m gonna act anyway regardless of how I feel” I prefer the latter as it puts me in control and I can keep taking action and get better. You will only be able to take sporadic action when you feel good but that won’t be enough to get better. Change your perception and you’ll do better is my point.
/r/seduction12/05/19 04:17 PM
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That book is not scholarly and seems to be written from a place of ignorance regarding what seduction is about.
/r/seduction12/05/19 03:30 PM
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I agree about the dominance/alpha/protection etc. of the conversation. This is cruicial to handling these situations and showing her you're an alpha man that is worth fucking. I disagree about getting her to laugh, showing you're interesting, being suave or mysterious. All that is bullshit that society or the pua community try to sell us on the idea of. Girls don't need to laugh in order to have orgasms, they don't need to before sex. You don't need to be interesting, you just need to turn her o…
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:45 PM
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With guys you don't know, you can do the exact same thing, and you don't even need to be as polite about it. Just say something like "hey man nice to meet you ... we're actually having a private chat, have a good one." and then turn your back on him and focus back on the girl. In my opinion you gotta have a firm belief in yourself .. Like say to yourself "What the most confident, fearless way I can act in this situation right now?" just ask yourself that internally, and an answer will probably e…
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:38 PM
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And she was kinda like. “I’m not single” and she left and I was like “wait. No. “ If a girl ever gives you a polite rejection or walks off, NEVER persist. Just say "no problem. Have a good day." and leave. And she continues walking. Unfortunately I had to walk the same way because that’s where my friend lives. That's unfortunate. Now I am paranoid that I creeped the hell out of a girl I don’t even know. And I’m like gonna go to jail or something. You probably did creep her out, but you probably …
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:31 PM
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You don't sound like you get laid regularly. You sound like a clueless pickup guy that is amused at everything and trying to convince himself he's having fun but not actually filling his dick in pussy.
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:24 PM
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It's because your behaviours are WEAK. Someone has to say it. It's simple, tell your friends "Hey man nice to see you, actually we're having a private convo, we'll catch up with you in a bit." Done. Now if your friends have any respect for you, which they SHOULD they'll respect your assertion and back off immediately. This will also make the girl MORE into you for showing you have strength and can assert yourself. But if you let your friends take over you're showing the girl how spineless and we…
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:23 PM
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That's because you're a reactive person. Going out alone and getting results has to do with the actions you take NOT your mood. If you like to blame on things out of your control you will use your moods as an excuse.
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:19 PM
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In order of least effective to most effective: Co-dependent Independent Interdependent Co-dependent relationship is you and a wingman, or you and a friend, who need each other to get out of the house, who need each other for motivation or to get laid. This is unhealthy and ineffective. Neither of you will probably get laid and will probably drag each other down even if you have good intentions. Independent relationship is you go out by yourself OR you go out with a wingman or friend/s but you se…
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:14 PM
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Is that possible to use my seriousness to seduce As I said initially of course it's possible to be serious and seduce. You don't "use" it. Being serious is not a trick or technique that gets you laid. It's just a neutral quality of yourself which won't hinder or help you get laid, it's neutral. I'd say about 3 in average in real life. I don't come out a lot. Definitely more via various tinder like apps. You need to approach more and get off tinder. Lol not about that aspect because I want to use…
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:02 PM
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Need help escalating Great! A friend of mine invited me to stay at her place Now why on earth would you want to sleep with a friend? Unless you've been misleading her this whole time and acting as her friend? Friends don't fuck. Unless you are specifically friends with benefits and have already established that. She might be interested, but I'm not sure I'm getting signs. Well have you told her you're coming over for sex? You can't check signs if you're being a verbal coward. Also doesn't help t…
/r/seduction12/05/19 11:58 AM
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my question was more about how can I play with that character What do you mean? Maybe I'm trying to seduce girls who are not "mature" enough to get this type of vibe. How many girls do you approach roughly per week? And what is your definition of a successful approach? To address the coach part, I have subscribed to a few channels on YouTube but I didn't find a coach who talk about serious people. Then keep looking. There's hundreds of gurus out there. I know plenty of dating coaches that are on…
/r/seduction12/05/19 11:35 AM
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Yes comparing yourself is a bad idea. It will always lead to inferiority and you feeling shit about yourself or superiority and you feeling arrogant to other guys, but you will never reach your potential or your own goals and you will be wasting energy engaging your ego. Ask yourself instead “what is my goal?”, “what actions can I take to move me there?” And just focus on that.
/r/seduction12/05/19 11:01 AM
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Being entertaining or funny is good for being a platonic friend or clown, not for sex. There’s no problem at all with being a ‘serious’ seducer. Remember when women are in bed they don’t want you juggling, telling jokes or making them laugh ... so why do you think they want you to seduce them like that? As to how to seduce ... that’s a pretty broad question. Best bet is to pick a seduction guru that resonates with you and listen to his advice.
/r/seduction12/05/19 10:51 AM
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