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Just be like hi excuse me I know this is random but I just thought you were really cute and wanted to come introduce myself. And have a short convo and then ask her if she wants to hang out sometime. She could very well reject you and if that’s the case just say it was nice to meet you and move on to the next girl. The biggest advice I can give is to make sure you don’t startle the girl. Don’t tap her on the shoulder or try to talk of her right behind her. Walk along side her and make eye contac…
/r/seduction24/02/22 02:15 AM
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I get that, and i'm not judging them, but they need to stop feeding people BS like that it doesn’t work or girls are going to react badly to it when they have probably have never approached a single women in their life and have no authority in the matter and are just mentally masturbating.
/r/seduction24/02/22 02:11 AM
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Go out and approach other women. That’s how you forget about her and move on. And next time don’t hesitate to approach.
/r/seduction24/02/22 02:04 AM
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Exactly. I’m just tired of these Reddit neck beards on here who have never approached a women before assuming shit without any evidence. This subreddit has too many ignorant cold approach haters. That’s why I’m rarely on here and try to spend as much time on the cover pickup subreddit instead, not this stupid pathetic one.
/r/seduction24/02/22 01:56 AM
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Well the worst reaction I’ve ever gotten was being rudely told that she has a boyfriend and she walks away. But the vast majority of girls are appreciative and flattered that I approached them and will often thank me for approaching them, even if they reject me ultimately, and we both still leave with a positive experience most of the time. Yes it causes anxiety at first, but you become desensitized to it and see that what you’re doing is really not that big of a deal and most girls don’t respon…
/r/seduction23/02/22 09:53 PM
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Yeah, but they only made up a very small percentage of guys. The vast majority of other guys were hardly getting any girls. I’m not saying attracting girls through social circle isn’t a good way to meet women, but that cold approach is a very viable option and you can get great results with it alone even if you don’t do any social circle game. Saying looks are crucial to be able to successfully cold approach is also a bit of an exaggeration. Looks are important but as long as you aren’t in those…
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:18 PM
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Well usually I don’t go for the Snapchat I always try to close with the number but this girl insisted on Snapchat so I reluctantly agreed. My text game is to generally just to use it as bridge to set a date or an in person interaction. I don’t care to build rapport on text before setting the date or after . I used to do this and have screwed it up and talked myself out of getting the girl numerous times because of it.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:10 PM
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This is terrible advice. Yeah most guys aren’t approaching, but most guys are also getting mediocre results with women and aren’t going on dates and getting laid consistently. Approaching regularly can give you amazing results with women and can be a great way to get tangible results quickly, if done correctly. I’m so tired of all these cold approach haters on this subreddit who have no actual experience cold approaching and are just mentally masturbating and assuming that it doesn’t work becaus…
/r/seduction23/02/22 10:43 AM
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I disagree. Sometimes they give it out just to get rid of you, but a lot of the times they will actually be attracted to you when they give you their number but then change their mind by the time you text them to set a date. Again, girls are very flakey and change their mind, just like on tinder or anywhere else.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:55 AM
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I only approached 2 today. I’ve approached several more before. And I’ve gotten girls to respond and go on dates with me via cold approach. Just not today. I’m going to approach a lot more moving forward cause this coronavirus situation is starting to ease up. And nah. I’ve had maybe one or two girls respond rudely to me so their not flattered out of fear of a confrontation. Trust me if she wants to be a bitch then she will. Luckily most aren’t like that and will be appreciative of your advances…
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:50 AM
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Tons of girls still flake and block you on tinder who you matched with. Just her swiping right on you isn’t the end all be all by any means. Just like in cold approach how getting the number or date could always end in you getting flaked on later.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:45 AM
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Lol well in my experience cold approaching, the vast majority of girls are very appreciative and flattered that I approached them and will often thank me for doing so even if they reject me a lot of the time. And besides, how would a girl even know if you’re friendless when you cold approach? She has no idea. That’s the beauty of it over all other forms of game. All she’s gonna be judging you off of is the game your spitting at her she doesn’t know anything else.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:43 AM
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Yeah, you can, but I wouldn’t expect to be able to pull them on a regular basis. Most guys actually have the balls to flirt with them on tinder so you have way more competition. If you wanna pull beautiful women consistently then cold approach is the way to go with some exceptions.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:42 AM
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And yes there is less competition cold approaching then in online dating or tinder. The vast majority of the guys who slide into girls dms on tinder would not have the balls to cold approach that same girl in person. You just making the approach will puts leagues ahead of most guys.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:38 AM
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Lol I never said cold approach was as easy as 2 + 2. and I only made two approaches that is literally nothing. If I keep approaching I’m sure I will get good results. You really think you don’t have to deal with this BS on tinder? There’s way more attention whores there looking to give out their social media with no interest in you and who will block you as soon as you start making plans to meet in person. I’m not saying you shouldn’t get on tinder, you should absolutely augment your cold approa…
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:34 AM
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Yeah, but quality > quantity. One super hot girl will cancel out the ten 6's and 7's you pulled on tinder.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:32 AM
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You can make friends and develop a social circle through cold approach. You don’t necessarily have to have a social circle first in order to meet girls, you can make friends and develop a social circle by putting yourself out there via cold approach, which is my plan.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:30 AM
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Yeah, but you can usually pull more attractive girls through cold approach. On tinder you have way more competition. That’s why I think it’s best to view as just a supplement.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:29 AM
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Ha funny cause I literally don’t have anyone to take pictures of me and don’t have the money for a photographer. Besides, even if I do get on Tinder I’m not gonna stop cold approaching lol you should only view Tinder and online dating as a supplement to cold approaching not a substitute.
/r/seduction23/02/22 08:14 AM
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You need to develop social status. Say hi and Befriend everyone on your campus until you reach the point where whenever you walk around people automatically say hi and address you by your name first. Girls will take notice of this and it will spike their curiosity and they will want to get to know you better. Good luck!
/r/seduction20/02/22 05:18 AM
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Alright bro here’s my advice. Definitely work on your weight but still keep approaching. You can work on both at the same time. In the meantime, def looksmax on the rest of your appearance if you haven’t already (haircut/hairstyle, grooming, fashion, etc.) as those are things you can fix very quickly unlike losing weight which may take a while. In terms of losing the weight, I honestly wouldn’t recommend hitting the gym. I would focus on just your diet as that is like at least 90 percent of weig…
/r/seduction20/02/22 02:17 AM
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That’s good, keep it up. Don’t worry too much about this it happens to the best of us. So many factors out of our control there is only so much we can do to bend the odds in our favors.
/r/seduction16/02/22 10:13 PM
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Ha funny you say that cause that’s what I thought and I tried doing that numerous times to very little effect. Reason being is that all I have are selfies on my phone and no good quality pictures of me since I have literally no social life or a friend to even take a photo shoot of me and I don’t have the money to pay a photographer. My selfies look good but when all you have are selfies even if they are of decent quality it automatically makes like 99 % of girls swipe left cause it screams low v…
/r/seduction16/02/22 07:36 PM
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As another good looking guy, I’m right there with you. Most guys think it’s all about looks and think it’s easy for us good looking guys because they project that women are attracted to us the same way we are attracted to them, which is primarily on a physical level. But if you ask any actually decent looking guy, he will tell you that he needs game to consistently attract the women he desires and his looks don’t automatically make things super easy for him.
/r/seduction16/02/22 07:25 PM
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I'm in the exact same position as you, but I’d consider myself a fairly decent looking guy. Trust me it’s not ALL about looks. Not saying it isn’t a factor, but it certainly isn’t the end all be all when it comes to girls being sexually attracted to you. Ask any good looking guy and he will tell you that he needs game to get consistently laid with the quality of girls he wants. Sure, occasionally we meet a girl who makes it easy for us just because of our looks, but that is certainly the excepti…
/r/seduction16/02/22 07:22 PM
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Ah okay. Yeah I wouldn’t take what happened personally. I know it’s super frustrating but it’s just part of the game. Just keep approaching and you’re bound to find a girl who will actually respond to your text and show up on the date. Just keep trying to hold a longer conversation then just 30 seconds as that can drastically cut down on the flaking rate. I think that was my mistake with my most recent approach as I went for the number close way to soon.
/r/seduction16/02/22 07:15 PM
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From the sounds of it she was genuinely attracted to you when you approached her. What happened is that she probably changed her mind by the time you texted her and no longer felt the same way about you. This is just part of the game and unfortunately a lot of the girls who give you their numbers are very flakey and will ghost on you. I had this happen to me recently where a girl who I approached gave off a lot of indicators of interest (flirtily thanking me for my direct compliment opener, maki…
/r/seduction16/02/22 09:09 AM
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I was just about to say, I’ll even go as far as saying you can attract women who claim they don’t like guys of your race if you’re attractive enough. She’ll make an exception for you a lot of the times. I know it’s happened to me several times.
/r/seduction01/12/21 06:03 AM
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I’m Indian but born and raised in America and honestly I’ve never had any Indian women come onto me, only white women and a few Latina women. I really don’t think race matters as much as most guys think. I think that girls just like an attractive guy regardless of what race he whether he is White, Black, Hispanic, Indian, Asian or whatever. As long as you make yourself attractive, you shouldn’t have too much of of a problem attracting girls of any race with the exception of a small handful of gi…
/r/seduction01/12/21 05:39 AM
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I disagree. Especially as a beginner, I find the direct compliment opener to be very effective. Much more effective then the indirect approach that usually leads to nothing or you being friend-zoned.
/r/seduction29/11/21 04:42 PM
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I wholeheartedly disagree, I’ve had massive success doing this in America.
/r/seduction29/11/21 04:31 PM
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Don’t listen to all these haters. I’m Indian but born and raised and live in America and most girls are very appreciative here if you open them directly with a compliment like “hey I know this is random but I just thought you were cute and wanted to come introduce myself to you.” As long as you aren’t creepy or aggressive. In fact I think it’s the best opener if you’re a beginner who’s new to picking up girls as a lot of times beginners don’t have the conversation skills and flirtation abilities…
/r/seduction29/11/21 04:28 PM
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Is there a reason you downvoted my comment and are being a jerk about it? Because you can’t handle that you were wrong and misread my post and it’s context?
/r/seduction17/11/21 03:18 PM
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I never said that girls don’t change their mind. They change their mind all the time. But I am referring to cold approaching a random girl who you will most likely never see again.
/r/seduction17/11/21 02:56 PM
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Because what makes a guy hot has more to do with just his looks. A lot of what makes a guy hot is his behavior, not just his looks. So usually a guy who is good looking but lacks the behavior that women are sexually attracted to is labeled as cute and good looking only and not hot and sexy. However, if a guy has attractive behavioral characteristics, he is labeled as hot and sexy as well.
/r/seduction15/11/21 02:58 AM
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Good luck man let me know how it goes!
/r/seduction06/11/21 08:47 PM
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50 girls approached in a year is not the same thing as 50 girls approached in a week. You need to approach a larger amount of girls on a regular basis, not over a long period of time inconsistently. It's like only cutting your calories one day a week and not understanding why you haven't lost any weight or only lifting weights only once every month over a year and not understanding why you aren't getting any stronger. I'm not advising you to completely ditch your hobbies, but that if you want to…
/r/seduction05/11/21 05:20 AM
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Aright I got you. I don't think you're asking out nearly as many girls as you think. From the looks of it, you're asking out some girls here and there who happen to be in your hobbies or that you come across while going about your life. The reality of it is that you need to ask out way more girls. You should be asking out at least 25 girls a week. It's great that you're participating in these hobbies that you like and going to these events like football games and occasional parties with your fri…
/r/seduction05/11/21 04:40 AM
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So if you’ve been approaching a lot of girls and haven’t been getting with any of them than you are obviously doing something very wrong. Either you’re making really bad approaches or neglecting your physical appearance or something along those lines. Just out of curiosity how do you approach? Do you cold approach on campus? Walk me through your approach and what you say.
/r/seduction05/11/21 04:03 AM
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Are you in college? College is a great place to meet women and work on your game. But in my opinion to get the abundance mindset you need to prove to yourself that you can attract women on a consistent basis. Once you start talking to a lot of girls and prove to yourself you can attract and get with at least some girls here and there on a consistent basis your abundance mindset will shoot up and you’ll be able to attract even more girls because of it. It’s a lot like a snowball effect if that ma…
/r/seduction05/11/21 02:16 AM
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This is the worst way to approach. If you’re a beginner trying to overcome approach anxiety, then it is totally fine, but it should not be your ultimate approach strategy. It is lame and inauthentic. It is much better to just confidently go up and introduce yourself and get to the point, then to pretend to ask for directions to sneak yourself into a conversation.
/r/seduction01/11/21 08:50 PM
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Please don’t listen to all these people telling you to approach super indirectly and that approaching directly is weird. What will happen if you approach indirectly, especially on a college campus, is that you will get friend zoned in a heartbeat. You NEED to go in direct. I would prefer to just approach directly and tell them I think their cute and wanted to come introduce myself to them. Even if I do open indirectly, I ALWAYS make it clear at some point that this is man to women and that I’m n…
/r/seduction01/11/21 08:43 PM
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Absolutely. Once she’s interested, just shut the fuck up. Too many guys talk themselves out of it.
/r/seduction27/09/21 09:30 PM
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Yeah, I’m not a big fan of a lot of PUA's. Though I do think there are some really good ones out there and it’s sad that they get dismissed right off the bat by most guys.
/r/seduction26/09/21 05:53 PM
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And that’s what I stated in my comment as clear as day and night, confidence and your looks combined will seal the deal, AFTER meeting her minimum physical standard.
/r/seduction26/09/21 03:13 PM
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That is true to an extent, but I still think confidence is huge when approaching, much more then looks. What I’m trying to say is that it doesn’t take long for a girl to pick up on your confident vibe. She can usually feel it almost instantly, and that coupled with the your looks meeting her minimum physical standard will be what gets you the phone number.
/r/seduction26/09/21 02:41 PM
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I understand where you’re coming from and I used to kind of feel the same way, but gauging whether a girl has hooked up a lot or not is a lot harder then it looks. Most girls lie about their body count and some of the girls who seem very innocent and none promiscuous are some of the biggest sluts out there. That’s why I think it’s best not to worry about her body count and let it impact your view towards her and your decision to have a relationship with her. Check out Mr. Locario on YouTube, he …
/r/seduction26/09/21 07:01 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but most girls have casual sex all the time. They crave and desire sex just like most men.
/r/seduction26/09/21 06:37 AM
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Well, even if she wants a relationship with you, she might make you wait a bit longer for sex, but not because she doesn’t know you well enough or doesn’t trust you, but because she doesn’t want you thinking she’s a slut and thinks that by making you wait you will label her as girlfriend material and be more likely to agree to have a relationship with her. She still probably wants to have sex with you right off the bat, but because she wants you to view her as girlfriend material she may make yo…
/r/seduction26/09/21 06:15 AM
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Well I think that girls like guys decide whether their attracted to a guy or not very quickly, but just based off slightly different things. For men, we’re primarily going to make our decision right off the bat based off looks, while for women it’s based primarily on confidence while also meeting the minimum physical standard.
/r/seduction26/09/21 06:12 AM
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Yeah, logically it would make sense why a girl would need to get to know before having sex with you, and honestly I’m surprised that most girls will have sex with guys they barely know, but they still do it most of the time. Sexuality is a pretty insane motivator I guess. And girls are most definitely very sexual and have a high interest in seeking out sex, just like guys.
/r/seduction26/09/21 05:57 AM
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I totally disagree that for a girl to want to have sex with you she needs to know. That’s complete and utter BS that’s repeatedly proven wrong time and time again.
/r/seduction26/09/21 04:54 AM
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Idk I just think verbal game is overrated and focused on too much. I think that it’s not mainly what you say but it’s how you say it.
/r/seduction26/09/21 04:51 AM
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That’s exactly what I’m saying. Some girls are gonna like you and some aren’t so just get to the point so you can find out sooner and move on to the next girl.
/r/seduction25/09/21 10:43 PM
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Yep, my experience also almost exactly. I’ve had a few girls who I was attracted to be interested in me and want to have sex with me, but I either messed it up before I could actually kiss them or have sex with them, or I got nervous last minute.
/r/seduction23/09/21 07:05 AM
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Thank you for sharing this, it makes me feel a lot better. I went to my female friend a while back and was telling her about how I felt bad that I was still a virgin and she told me “You're one of a kind!” and that she has never heard of a guy who is a virgin at my age before. Though her intention wasn’t to hurt me by saying this and was to make me feel special, it had the opposite effect on me. It also shows her ignorance and her close world view. But yeah, I think hopefully I tackle the learni…
/r/seduction23/09/21 07:04 AM
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Hey, thanks for the response. Yeah, you’re right, but I think for the most part approaching outside in the daytime (daygame) with a mask on is relatively safe if you’re vaccinated. I will for sure not be hitting up any night clubs or other places with large crowds until their is a significant handle on the COVID situation. But that also makes me feel better that you advice against this, because I am also super late to getting vaccinated and I feel less like I’ve missed out on much because of it,…
/r/seduction23/09/21 07:00 AM
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Sounds like you aren’t making it man to women enough so you’re getting thrown in the friendzone right off the bat. I also used to go in super indirect like this because I was scared to go direct. Instead of opening with Hey how are you doing, try to open directly instead like excuse me I thought you were very attractive and wanted to come introduce myself to you. Bam man to women right off the bat without a shadow of doubt. And don’t say “Can I have your number?” Girls these days will give their…
/r/seduction25/08/21 01:38 AM
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Yes! If she's not being cooperative and making things easy for you and letting you escalate with her, charge her to the game! Keep approaching and building your roster! Remember a no is almost never permanent, it's just a no at the time. She will come back around when she sees you forgot about her and are getting with other girls, cause girls are so backwards! They are drawn to guys who don't care about them and who get with other girls!
/r/seduction21/08/21 10:05 PM
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I hear you bro. I'm new to pickup and experienced something similar recently. My first 6 approaches I lucked up and actually got 2 phone numbers and felt amazing and was like wow this whole pick up and game stuff actually works. One of those numbers responded and was open to meeting up for a date but then vanished, and the other one did meet up with me but when I tried getting sexual she rejected me and told me that she was just trying to make new friends and that she wasn't interested in me lik…
/r/seduction17/08/21 05:20 AM
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This is horrible advice and never works except in the movies. The backdoor approach is a waste of time and you could use the same time approaching others girls who will actually be into you from the jump.
/r/seduction17/08/21 05:10 AM
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Ok lol. And I can show you many more statistical surveys where women DONT rank looks as the number one factor in sexual attraction towards men. But either way, that’s not important because the minute you start taking dating advice from girls you’re screwed. Cause what women say they respond to and what they actually respond to are two completely different things.
/r/seduction17/08/21 02:38 AM
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Ok lol. Keep thinking that if you want. Keep feeling bad for yourself and making excuses as to why you can’t get girls. I’m telling you as a good looking guy (I have the pictures to back it up) that I still need game. Yes looks do matter, but trust me, if you’re un confident and have no game, it won’t mean jack shit most of the time. Average guy with confidence and game is gonna kill the good looking guy who’s got no clue what he’s doing any day of the week.
/r/seduction17/08/21 02:27 AM
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Just use her number to set up a date and nothing else. Too many times guys try to game the girl over text in hopes of her liking them more but end up just talking themselves out it. If you asked her on a date in the approach, just text her and tell her it’s you and that you guys met yesterday and ask her when she’s available to meet up. Ask her what days and times and then set a date and just shut the fuck up until you guys meet up. On the date just ask her a lot of questions and get her to do m…
/r/seduction17/08/21 02:23 AM
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I really resonate with this. I am very new to pick up and except for getting a couple of phone numbers, I have been repeatedly rejected girl after girl. I know that I am still super new to this and that instead of getting frustrated about it, I understand that my game still needs a lot of work. I have made about 15 approaches in the past few weeks ( I know, I haven't been consistent and need to take action much more consistently). Although I don't have too much difficulty and anxiety actually ap…
/r/seduction16/08/21 10:10 PM
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And I agree. Without her being attracted to you there is no girl to talk yourself out of getting. But in order to keep her attracted to you and prevent her flaking on you or throwing you in the friendzone, knowing when to talk and when not to is very important to know, as many times guys talk themselves into the friendzone or in being flaked on. I’m not saying that’s the only reason you will be flaked on, but most other reasons are going to be out of your control like her finding a new guy or so…
/r/seduction22/05/21 06:06 AM
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You are going in complete extremes. I already said that not knowing to shut the fuck up isn’t enough if the girl isn’t attracted to you, but very important to maintain a girls attraction to get laid. Otherwise you will get flaked on or thrown in the friendzone face first when you could have swore you had the girl and you were going to get laid for sure, but she ends up changing her mind last minute. This shit happens on the regular. Girls flake on guys and throw guys in the friendzone who they w…
/r/seduction22/05/21 05:22 AM
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I literally said in my first sentence that confidence is extremely important. And I disagree. You can still talk yourself out of it even if you have a confident mental frame. Confidence is extremely important at attracting the girl, but knowing when to shut the fuck is equally if not more important at closing the deal and actually getting laid.
/r/seduction22/05/21 05:08 AM
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Confidence is extremely important and what a girl is going to be attracted to you off of primarily. The reason I say it’s secondary to knowing when to shut the fuck up is because even if you had a confident approach and she is super attracted to you at first, you could still say something goofy and cause her to completely change her mind and flake on you or friendzone you. Then all that confidence you projected in the approach that made her so attracted to you won’t mean shit.
/r/seduction22/05/21 05:01 AM
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Am I teaching guys to be someone their not? No. I am simply telling them when to talk and when not to talk.
/r/seduction21/05/21 09:17 PM
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That’s even worst. No offense but I don’t take dating advice from girls. Been there, done that, got nowhere. What girls say they do and what they actually do behind closed doors is the difference of day and night.
/r/seduction21/05/21 08:28 PM
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This is probably why girls who go on “dates” with you don’t want to have sex with you. Because you offer to take them out to dinner. If you do that, you’ll be dealing with a lot of girls who are only going out with you for the free meal and attention. But usually, a girl has to be sexually attracted to you on some level at least to agree to go on a date. The date is to see if you guys are compatible and for her to not feel like a complete slut for sleeping with you. Also, you can gauge how attra…
/r/seduction21/05/21 08:19 PM
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I disagree with this so much. “Just be yourself” is the worst advice ever. You absolutely shouldn’t be someone your not, but you certainly should be a more attractive, calibrated version of yourself. Part of that is knowing when to talk and knowing when to shut up. This goes for other areas of life too including making friends, getting a job, sales, etc. Are you really saying that the best advice for getting a job is to “just be yourself” and tell the interviewer that you plan to leave the compa…
/r/seduction21/05/21 08:04 PM
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My point is that you don’t need to talk a lot to prove your confident. They can sense your confidence by your body language and the aura you project. If she’s already agreed to go on a date with you then she’s already sexually attracted to you and you just need to shut the fuck up until you guys hook up.
/r/seduction21/05/21 05:48 PM
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Dude you clearly lost the debate and can’t keep up so you keep going in circles. I don’t like having sore losers on my posts. Peace out bro.
/r/seduction21/05/21 04:04 AM
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That post was from MONTHS ago. I’ve been getting girls for a long time but only go into cold approach recently. And having that mindset of understanding that a girl won’t have sex with me even if she thinks im cute has taken me FAR unlike you guys in who give up after two rejections thinking your looks are the sole problem.
/r/seduction21/05/21 04:01 AM
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Alright yep. Don’t listen to the guy with a bachelors of science in psychology with an emphasis on human behavior and psychology in regards to attraction.
/r/seduction21/05/21 03:59 AM
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I think YOU are confusing a women being “attracted” to you with her being sexually attracted to you.(Having a desire to have sex with someone)I am speaking from a very scientific and psychological point of view. There ARE in fact many different types of attraction. If you don’t believe me, look them up. Describing girls as either being “attracted” to you or not and saying there is only one kind of attraction is very vague and ignorant.
/r/seduction21/05/21 03:55 AM
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No we aren’t. I think if we are physically attracted to a women, as long as we aren’t repulsed by her personality, we will be down to have sex with her unless the guy is asexual or one of those Demi sexual guys who needs an emotional connection in order to be sexually attracted to someone.
/r/seduction21/05/21 03:54 AM
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I can’t believe the ignorance of some of you guys. I made this post for you guys in specific but you can’t seem to get it through your thick skulls. Alright go ahead and keep blaming your lack of success with women on your looks and keep assuming that if you were a good looking guy that you would sleep with girls left and right even while being a goofball with no game. I’m done.
/r/seduction21/05/21 03:52 AM
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Yes I agree, but for most of us, as long as we don’t dislike or are repulsed by the girl and we are physically attracted to her, the vast majority of times we will be down to have sex with her. For women, that usually isn’t enough to for her to want to have sex with a guy. The behavioral characteristics and how charming the guy is plays a huge factor in her sexual attraction towards the guy, while for us guys as long as we can get along with her and are physically attracted to her we’re down to …
/r/seduction21/05/21 03:47 AM
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So you are saying if a girl thought you were cute or handsome then she would have a desire to have sex with you?
/r/seduction21/05/21 02:57 AM
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Except you're wrong. There ARE many different types or attraction. Generalizing all forms of attraction as just one is only more confusing and vague and hard to wrap your head around. There is physical attraction, sexual attraction, romantic attraction just to name a few. I could go into the reasoning behind these different forms of attraction for each gender but I wanted to keep this post as brief as possible.
/r/seduction21/05/21 02:55 AM
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When did this forum ever say that girls don’t care about looks? They only say that they care less about looks and to not become over dependent on them. You also have to realize that what makes a guy hot has more to do with his looks. Past the minimum physical attraction requirement, for most girls, a lot of what makes them sexually attracted to a guy has to do with his behavioral characteristics like their confidence and swagger. Me personally being a good looking guy ( I have the pictures to ba…
/r/seduction14/05/21 07:01 PM
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I’m familiar with him and have watched a few of his videos.
/r/seduction07/05/21 05:00 PM
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Agreed, but take it with a grain of salt. I think it can be interesting to hear what they say but I always only take it with a grain of salt.
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:55 PM
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I agree with most of what you are saying but I do disagree with a couple things. Firstly, I disagree that they key to getting what you want in life is simply “just be yourself.” Unfortunately, to get what you want or to get ahead in life in any area not just dating and women, there are certain rules you need to follow. It's not as simple as “just be yourself” and you will magically get the job, the girl, the friends, or whatever you want just off that. There is a right and wrong way to go about …
/r/seduction08/03/21 02:43 PM
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I largely stand with you on this. I think they do not to follow a technique and plan but stay away from some of the tactics described in my post and just focus on getting comfortable approaching and having good but brief conversations.
/r/seduction05/03/21 07:13 PM
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That’s fine, you can focus a little more on the conversation then to see if you genuinely connect with her. But what I’m saying is that beginners need to not focus on techniques like PP/Qualifier/Samedaypull cause it’s going to cause them to get way too in their head and they are not going to be able to usually effectively pull them of. Also, just cause there is a connection doesn’t always equate to romantic interest on her part. So it is still a numbers game even if you are looking to genuinely…
/r/seduction05/03/21 07:09 PM
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Yeah man that’s really solid keep it up! Especially considering the fact that you approached in the wintertime in Chicago.
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:10 PM
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Wow that’s actually a really good lay ratio as a beginner! So like 1:80? Since you said you do 4 sets a day five times a week. What is your experience like before getting into pick up? We’re you already sleeping with other girls through other means like social circle and hobbies?
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:05 PM
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Okay that make a lot more sense haha. I was a bit confused for a second and something seemed off. How many approaches did you make until you got your first lay?
/r/seduction05/03/21 03:58 PM
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I hear you, I just think it’s so difficult to pull in day game as a beginner and so unlikely that your time will be much better spent approaching many more girls instead of going on those instant dates that almost always never lead to a pull. Your odds will greatly increase with the more girls you approach to get more lays later. That’s just my opinion.
/r/seduction05/03/21 03:32 PM
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Keep up the hard work! I love to hear that your going out there and taking action. I do have some feedback for you though. One huge mistakes guys make when starting pickup is focusing too much on pulling, especially in day game. I would really focus less on pulling the same day and more on just getting as many phone numbers and dates as possible, and pulling when you are on the dates. The time you spend on these instant dates trying to pull these girls to no prevail could be much better spent ge…
/r/seduction05/03/21 03:22 PM
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Me too in a perfect world, but unfortunately it isn’t one and even though texting girls whenever you want without any ramifications would be nice, it doesn’t work that way.
/r/seduction04/03/21 06:29 PM
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When did I ever say that I thought Tinder girls weren’t as good as girls you meet elsewhere? I only said that this post was not pertaining to messaging girls on tinder because I am talking about girls you meet in person in this post, and a lot of people are getting it confused for messaging girls on tinder. It has nothing to do with treating tinder girls like they are worst then other girls, you are misinterpreting what I’m saying and jumping to the wrong conclusions. Jesus Christ. This was my w…
/r/seduction04/03/21 06:27 PM
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My post is referring to when you first get her number. After you guys start dating obviously you can text her more. I also disagree that if she’s into you then it’s the end all be all and she won’t change her mind unless it’s for a super major reason. I can’t tell you how many times me and other guys could have swore we had the girl in the palm of our hand but said one wrong thing that turned her off and completely dried up her pussy.
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:13 PM
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I disagree. In my experience it’s been the opposite. It’s best to just shut the fuck up until you guys meet up on a date where you can build rapport. Again women aren’t logical creatures. What women say they want and what they actually respond to behind closed doors are two totally different things.
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:02 PM
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I am referring to texting a girl who you met in person, not on tinder or an online dating app. With online dating it’s different and you do want to build some rapport before going for the date.
/r/seduction04/03/21 03:58 PM
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Yeah, that is what I’m thinking, which is why I now put a disclaimer in my post that I am referring to in person texting, not online dating.
/r/seduction04/03/21 03:52 PM
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Okay, I mean I can show you countless text exchanges where I go for the date in the first 1-3 messages and have very positive responses. In fact, that’s all I’ve ever done and I’ve never had one instance where a girl who was interested in me was turned off by me going for the date right away, cause that’s what she wanted me to do cause she was attracted to me off the approach. Oh, and I’m not referring to online dating if that’s what your thinking. I’m referring to a girl who you met in person.
/r/seduction04/03/21 02:59 PM
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I just put a disclaimer saying this is for texting in person and not off tinder!
/r/seduction04/03/21 02:54 PM
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I think you can text after you guys start dating and having sex. I am referring to when you first meet her and before you guys have your first date.
/r/seduction04/03/21 02:47 PM
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Qualification is advance game! This is for beginners! Also, I disagree that you can just do whatever you want as long as you’re being yourself, not just with women but with life in general. Unfortunately there are certain rules you have to play by to have success in any area including dating, getting a job, making friends, selling a product, etc. That’s not to say to be someone you’re not, but just make adjustments to yourself as needed based on the situation.
/r/seduction04/03/21 02:04 PM
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This is not pertaining to online dating though. This is referring to texting a girl who you met in person. Online dating texting is much different.
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:47 PM
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Im talking about when you first meet a girl. You can text her more once you guys date each other more. You’d be surprised, I’ve had girls in the past who were super attracted to me but I sent the wrong text that turned her off and made her change her mind completely and put me in the friendzone, and they wouldn’t have happened if I just shut my mouth after I set the date. There are enough girls who will disqualify you through text, so why take the risk, at least as a beginner?
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:31 PM
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Well there are more then enough girls who will disqualify you for doing so, so why take the risk? You don’t know for sure she’s not like that if you just met her. Better play it safe then sorry. Besides, texting anyone you just met for more then just setting up in person plans is just weird and desperate.
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:23 PM
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In my experience, it’s the opposite. Even if the convo flowed smoothly and you guys are vibing, often times doing this will get you flaked on, and the girl won’t even know why she’s not interested anymore. It’s because having the time to get to know her over text subconsciously tells her you’re not preselected. Girls aren’t logical bro but it is what it is.
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:21 PM
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Well my post is more pertained to texting a girl who you met in person vs meeting girls on dating apps. On dating apps, I think you should actually build some rapport before you set a date, and it would be appropriate to learn how to do so properly. But with girls you approached in person, I absolutely think you should avoid trying to build attraction and rapport and should strictly use it to set up a date, cause too much can go wrong over text that can cause a guy to ruin his chances with a gir…
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:02 PM
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Yeah, but unfortunately a lot of guys who need dating help are going to be bad at texting and end up turning the girl off because they lack the awareness and are desperate to please the girl. I think texting can be a great tool to build attraction, but only if the guy really knows what’s he’s doing. Also, no offense, but I don’t really believe or take to heart what girls say and suggest. I usually find what girls say they want and what they actually respond to and do behind closed doors are usua…
/r/seduction04/03/21 12:52 PM
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Absolutely. I just think that building rapport over text versus in person is different when dealing with women, and a lot of the same things you could say in person if you said over text would turn them off and make them change their mind about being attracted to you. I know it seems contradictory, but girls just aren’t the most logical creatures. Part of my philosophy has come from my own personal failures when I used to try to build rapport with girls over text in hopes they would like me more…
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:42 AM
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Thank you for your response and perspective. In my experience, that isn't usually the case. Even if we didn't talk much over text before we met, usually as long as the girl is decently interested in me she will be very engaging in the conversation and ask me a lot questions and make the conversation easy for me. I think that as long as you actually listen to what the girl says, you should have no problem maintaining conversations on dates, regardless of how much you guys texted or didn't text be…
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:23 AM
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Yeah I said it has little to do. Meaning it still matters a little. I also said in my post that it is a factor.
/r/seduction22/01/21 11:57 PM
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Lol I never said that race wasn’t a factor. Just that it isn’t the end all be all by any means. Also online dating is a different game where guys are generally judged much more harshly on superficial factors.
/r/seduction22/01/21 10:19 PM
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Totally agreed but this post is specifically about race. I totally agree. Most guys who complain about their race holding them back from being successful wouldn't be much more successful if they were any other race.
/r/seduction22/01/21 07:57 PM
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I guess it depends where you live. If you live in some redneck town in the middle of the south then i'm sure it will actually impact your chances. Best to not live someplace like that if you are a minority regardless haha.
/r/seduction22/01/21 07:46 PM
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If you read my post I specifically said that it IS a factor, just that it is super overblown. I never said it wasn't a factor at all. READ THE WHOLE POST. "I am here to tell you guys that although race is a factor, that by and large the interaction is man to women before it is Indian to white, black to white, or whatever your race is and the race of the girl your trying to get at."
/r/seduction22/01/21 07:15 PM
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Yeah unfortunately there are some mean girls who like to jerk you around. Trust me I know I used to be that guy and once I learned how to read women and then learned the game as a whole, I’ve never been in that position again.
/r/seduction07/01/21 10:03 PM
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A big part of it was by learning how to read women. Learning the trick that I stated in my post of asking her on a date to know exactly where I stand with her was a huge game changer for me and then I learned everything else. In terms of escalating in person I just like to flirt and if she’s receptive and flirting back then I escalate, that simple. If she doesn’t flirt back, I know she’s not interested and I keep it moving.
/r/seduction07/01/21 10:02 PM
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Then you probably need to work on your game. Or need to learn to make a move quicker. Cause whether a women wants to have sex with you is entirely dictated on how attracted to you she is. You should only try to date those girls who have a high initial attraction to you off the bat and go for sex no later then the second date. How do you know if she’s extremely attracted to you? When you ask her to hang out she will be very happy to hang out with you and seem very excited about meeting up with yo…
/r/seduction05/01/21 02:12 AM
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Are you asking if she’s looking for a hookup or for a relationship? I think that generally if she wants a relationship she’ll wait a bit longer to have sex with you. But I would recommend checking out Mr. Locario on YouTube. He gives great advice and has videos on this.
/r/seduction05/01/21 01:59 AM
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I used to have this problem and it was extremely frustrating for me. Knowing how to read women is an extremely underrated and overlooked skill when it comes to seduction. Not knowing how to read them can lead you to lots of frustration and girls jerking you around like you are experiencing. What I like to do if I don’t know where I stand with a girl is I simply ask her on a date. If she is genuinely sexually attracted to you, she will want to meet up for a date or a hangout and will schedule a t…
/r/seduction05/01/21 01:47 AM
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I totally agree with every single thing you said.I have one primary coach I listen to but 2 or 3 other ones who I also listen to. Some of the stuff they teach doesn’t resonate with me so I discard it and find a different alternative that still works for me and for achieving what I am trying to achieve.
/r/seduction29/12/20 09:10 PM
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Yeah no shit. That was the entire point of my post.
/r/seduction29/12/20 08:05 AM
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This is exactly what I’m saying. So many of my friends who get a lot of girls tried coaching me in the past and were awful and I never got anywhere and their advice only backfired on me yet they would judge me for making mistakes when talking to women. They say never get dating advice from women and I totally agree, but I also think the vast majority of guys are also pretty bad at giving advice to other guys even if they are good with women themselves.
/r/seduction29/12/20 05:19 AM
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Exactly. A lot of the times men talk themselves out of getting the girl by trying to build attraction through text.
/r/seduction23/12/20 04:03 AM
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Okay at this point you’re just trolling. I obviously wouldn’t tell her I want to have sex right away, I would ask to hang out or go on a date. What is up with all you Reddit guys?
/r/seduction23/12/20 03:56 AM
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Explain to me exactly how it’s going to blow dudes chances? I’m literally telling guys what to avoid to blow their chances as I’ve blown my chances with many girls by doing whatever I wanted and texting them whatever I wanted to text them whenever. Also if you’re a guy who got a girls number isn’t the whole point of you getting her number was so you could hang out with her later to make sex happen? Seems to make sense that you should go for the date right away since that was the entire purpose y…
/r/seduction23/12/20 03:44 AM
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Except I’m literally saying the opposite. I’m saying a lot of this stuff to make things less complicated for guys because a lot of them play too many guys especially when it comes to texting girls so this is a very simple and straight forward blueprint that prevents overthinking. Also how do you think the attractive personalities get developed? Just out of thin air? Sounds like you are trying to coach yourself. The average guy on here isn’t a guy who’s already getting an abundance of women and n…
/r/seduction23/12/20 03:25 AM
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Doesn’t this completely contradict what you just said about not playing games and getting straight to the point? Didn’t you just advocate not to play games to appear non desperate and get her to chase you? I wholeheartedly disagree. If you meet a girl and get her number let’s say at the bar or the street or around campus if you’re in college, you need to get straight the point when you text her. Open with telling her “hey, it was nice meeting you earlier” or something and then after she responds…
/r/seduction23/12/20 02:43 AM
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I’m not advocating the chasing game at all, I specifically said in my post that you shouldn’t wait too long to text and that I don’t advocate playing those chasing games. But I do think for me it’s generally best to text the next day, which is pretty fast. I think most people will think you’re weird if you text them and ask them out the same day that you got their number, because it’s a social norm that doing so is weird, regardless of if I agree with it or not, and I don’t agree with it, but it…
/r/seduction23/12/20 02:32 AM
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Honestly what I do is just start the conversation just like how I’d start a conversation with another guy. And ask follow up questions and talk some more and most likely they’ll open more and start talking. Gotta be more charismatic. Maybe that’s your issue. Is you view taking to girls at least initially as being much different then dudes when you should start the conversation the same way really.
/r/seduction10/10/20 09:36 AM
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That’s something you’re just going to have to get over. From what you’ve told me, they usually aren’t very cold with you but not sounding super excited and engaged. Again, you need to take the lead and take the conversation to a more engaging place, unless she’s making it very obvious she’s not interested. Keep asking follow up questions and talking and she will warm up more. It sounds like your conversation skills are your problem. Also, it’s great your consistent, but I recommend counting how …
/r/seduction10/10/20 09:02 AM
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What is your style and grooming like? How do you dress? How do you style your hair? It sounds like you need to talk more. A conversation can be like a lawn mower in that you might have to pull a few times before it starts. How consistent are you too? Do you set a goal to talk to x amounts of girls a week?Also don’t worry too much about online dating. It’s very hard for most guys to get any matches or results.
/r/seduction10/10/20 08:52 AM
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Ok, cause I was about to say as long as they aren’t making it obvious they aren’t interested, to close anyway. How do you open? What is your appearance like? Poor opener/dusty appearance will make it much less likely she will talk to you. If most of these girls you try to talk to aren’t even having a normal conversation with you, you are doing something wrong. Care to walk me through how most of your interactions go down and what you say?
/r/seduction10/10/20 08:42 AM
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Did you try to close with all of them by saying something like hey we should get a coffee or drink sometime why don’t we exchange contact information?
/r/seduction10/10/20 02:23 AM
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Lol abundance is such a broad term, the word can be used in more then one way, including what I said.That is obviously the best type of abundance mindset, but it can also be that you are outcome independent because you know that it’s a numbers game and you will eventually hear a yes, or that you don’t feel needy for girls in general cause you can be happy without them.
/r/seduction21/09/20 08:43 AM
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Lol I’m not as insecure as I sound in this post. I’m just being realistic. I know I have my good qualities but I also know I could be in better shape and that LA has a ton of good looking guys who probably have game too. I think the best call in this situation is to have as AMS calls it, alpha male confidence. Which means I should lose the weight, but in the meantime, I should still keep an abundance mindset because of the millions and millions of beautiful women out there, someone is bound to l…
/r/seduction21/09/20 08:35 AM
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Texting is where a lot of guys fuck up their chances with a girl. In my opinion, texting should be used only for the sole purpose of setting up a date or hangout with a girl. Nothing else. Too much can go wrong when you use it for more then that. She can misinterpret what you are saying like when you are trying to be funny she could take it the wrong way. Using texting for more then setting up an in person hangout could also make her doubt your confidence and cause her to change her mind about b…
/r/seduction17/08/20 11:50 PM
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I would say only a little bit. Getting rejected in person is a different feeling. Different body sensations when a girl turns you down in person versus online. So I would recommend desensitizing yourself by getting rejected in person.
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:41 AM
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Yeah, I totally agree. In a way, looks matter more then confidence or anything else, in the sense they need to find you at least somewhat attractive. You need to be at least a 5-6 in her eyes otherwise no amount of confidence or game will make any difference. I think that the average guy with confidence will destroy the attractive guy without confidence, but the ugly guy won’t even get an initial chance. So in your case you might want to consider getting a hair transplant if you really want to i…
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:30 PM
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I disagree. In my experience, looks rarely seal the deal on their own. As someone who has been conventionally good looking all of his life, as I have been told all my life and been given attention over my looks frequently, and I’m sure if I showed you some pics you would agree. I can honestly say looks only matter a little. All these years, I would only attract the occasional girl who wanted to get with me just cause of my looks and nothing else, and it was definitely the exception. By not havin…
/r/seduction09/08/20 08:11 PM
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You are going to get rejected a ton regardless of if you have full hair or thin hair. So it’s really up to you if you want to think you only get rejected more often then not because of your hair, or you see it for the way it is which is a numbers game regardless of your hair. Yes, I have. But the issue you are stating is that you don’t think attracting women is about confidence and it’s mostly about looks, and the girls who are more attracted to confidence then looks is extremely rare, like you …
/r/seduction09/08/20 07:20 PM
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I think it depends how thin it is. If it is thinning a little bit even if it is noticeable, you should be good and it shouldn’t make much of a difference, as long as you”re still confident. If your balding a lot, then yeah, it hurts a little bit and some girls are going to be turned off by it. But I think once you get a little older like 24 and older it matters a lot less.
/r/seduction09/08/20 04:45 AM
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And you really think your helping his confidence by saying stuff Iike that? And you sounded like you were referring to just the looks on their own. And did I say that you should be arrogant? No, I said confident. I agree some girls don’t like being approached randomly but even then they make their decision fairly quick about whether they like a guy or not, even if it is through more organic means rather then by some stranger randomly going up to them. I agree, that if your good looking, that you…
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:14 AM
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It sounds more like a confidence issue then your looks or hair on their own. If you can still be balding and confident, you can get girls. Girls are more attracted to confidence then looks.
/r/seduction09/08/20 02:15 AM
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As a guy, I totally disagree with this. It validates that I think that girls don’t really know what they want. You don’t need 10/10 asthetics to pick up girls. The only place you need those kinds of looks are maybe online dating. Girls are way more attracted to confidence when you try to pick them up then looks all by themselves. If you are good looking, but don’t have the internal qualities to back it up, you will rarely get succcess with your looks alone. You can totally still get girls with t…
/r/seduction09/08/20 02:01 AM
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You summed it up perfectly
/r/seduction13/07/20 05:16 AM
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I couldn’t agree with this more. I always try to go the indirect route so I don’t startle the girls as much as if I just walk up to her and tell her she’s hot. It’s more smooth that way. Then, after having a short conversation, I say something like “hey, we should get a drink or coffee sometime, why don’t we exchange contact information.”
/r/seduction26/06/20 01:40 AM
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I think it only makes a difference if she is on the fence about you. If she isn’t interested in you, it won’t make any difference.
/r/seduction24/06/20 10:22 AM
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I have to wholeheartedly disagree with your post. Saying good looking guys “don’t even have to worry” about rejection is a vast exaggeration. Even if you are a very good looking guy, you’re going to get rejected on a regular basis. It’s part of the game. Yes a little less then an average guy, but you still will. As a good looking guy myself, it does help and I often catch girls checking me out, but id be lying if I said I hadn’t experienced some gut punching rejection. That’s when I realize look…
/r/seduction23/06/20 08:02 PM
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That’s what I said in my post. If you are a guy who already has decent social skills but a lack of experience with women, you can get good really fast.
/r/seduction23/06/20 08:05 AM
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Yeah, maybe you shouldn’t do the tension or push and pull thing then. It’s not going to make a girl be interested in you it’s just a way to establish intent. You could honestly not do it at all and just ask her out normally. Maybe that’s why you’re struggling with it. It’s not you to be flirting and creating tension.
/r/seduction23/06/20 08:05 AM
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Absolutely agree. I think it is dependent on your personality. I personally hate clubs too and day game is my favorite, but I will do mostly night game approaches because it’s more convenient and you can kill two birds with one stone. I try to approach in bars and lounges because I don’t like approaching in clubs, it’s a mess. Love day game though.
/r/seduction23/06/20 12:24 AM
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That’s what I’m saying. It’s important to have an attractive social circle and a social life of abundance for attracting women. A lot of guys do mostly night game so they can kill two birds with one stone and make their approaches while their already living a social life of abundance. It has a lot of advantages. You will be with your friends and social circle so it’s instant social proof to girls. Also it’s a more organic way to meet girls. Girls will feel more comfortable with you then if you j…
/r/seduction23/06/20 12:18 AM
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I prefer day game too but I feel like girls guards are higher up during the day cause there like who is this random weird guy trying to talk to me, whereas at night game it’s expected so you can usually at least get your foot in the door in the conversation, but tell me your experiences.
/r/seduction23/06/20 12:07 AM
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How many women do you approach? Do you approach a lot of them on a consistent basis. Even if you are an attractive guy, most girls are not going to be interested in you. It’s a numbers game.
/r/seduction22/06/20 11:12 PM
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Yeah, I guess I mean 10-15 approaches with girls who actually talk to you and are nice. In terms of number of approaches total including ones that don’t stop to talk to you, then it could easily be twice as much. I think you should do most of your sets in night game because most girls will be more willing to talk to you there then if you randomly approach them during the day. I recommend 5 approaches on both, Friday and Saturday night, and 3-5 more throughout the week going about your day.
/r/seduction22/06/20 10:38 PM
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Absolutely. I think even with 10-15 approaches a week you can get good results in a month or two. Idk I’m trying to strive for that balance of gaming but also still having time for friends, hobbies, and purpose because those are all very underrated aspects of game that are also very important..
/r/seduction22/06/20 10:33 PM
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That wasn’t really my point but I agree to an extent. But most guys cannot just feel confident just because. You get confidence from results. But it doesn’t take long to get results so I’m saying it shouldn’t take that long to get good.
/r/seduction22/06/20 08:08 PM
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I never said that I wanted to ruthlessly pursuit said girl. I’m talking about a strategy for when I first talk to her and if it still doesn’t work after a bit of time, then move on for sure. I guess a better, more prosocial way to word it for the occasional girls on here who is “how to get her to warm up to me.” That is a broad assumption and generalization and hypocritical statement on your part by saying I just assume a women is better then all guys because she rejected me and wasn’t intereste…
/r/seduction11/06/20 01:14 AM
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You just don’t understand how hard it is for guys and how easy it is for girls. Girls can go out tonight and get laid easy no problem. I’ve seen many average or below average looking girls who”s tinder and online dating is flooded with inbox messages from very handsome guys who would be happy to meet up with them. I see genuinely very good looking guys with attractive lifestyle photos and bios get very wishy washy results from online dating or just in general. So it’s easy for you to put me on t…
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:56 AM
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I think they are very relatable actually, at least initially. It a numbers game just like how sales or making a business are. I don’t understand how it is “blatantly patronizing or disrespectful.” Can you please explain how? Some girls are actually like that. Wouldn’t that be more of a reflection of them then me being a bad person or someone who is patronizing?
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:54 AM
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As long as you do so respectfully and not manipulatively.
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:42 AM
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Then why the fuck are you on this page? This page is for dudes. Just like girls have their own dating advice and coaching talking about males and male nature, we talk about female nature and how to deal with it. I still don’t see how getting someone to change their mind about you is disrespectful at all. If you are an entrepreneur or sales person trying to sell a product to a vendor who initially isn’t won over but you convince him that your product or service is worth it, and he changes his kin…
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:41 AM
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I think you have misinterpreted my wording. I don’t mean a women who isn’t interested in me for sure. I mean a women who could still be interested in me but because she thinks she’s better then most guys, won’t even give herself a chance to see if she’s interested or not. And even if said kind of women has made up her mind she’s not going to be interested in most any guy that talks to her, what is wrong with breaking her down? I don’t mean manipulating her if that’s what you mean. I mean knowing…
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:35 AM
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I mean don’t they say the way the dopamine center works in the brain, the anticipation of a reward is better then the actual reward? In others words its fun to have a challenge sometimes. And if there is a strategy to get them to warm up to you, why not use it? Lol. I mean if it’s just a short term hook up relationship then who cares.
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:27 AM
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Not really lol. It has little to do with looks or how beautiful a women is or how high her “level” is. I’ve seen way more average or below average women who have that mindset then beautiful women. But there a few hot women who that mindset and I’m wondering how to break them down.
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:23 AM
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Yes, if she thinks you’re ugly, then you have no chance with her regardless of how much confidence or charisma you have. But this does not mean she is primarily going to be attracted to you off her looks. Guy who she only finds a little bit physically attractive but is confident is going to beat the guy who she’s very physically attracted to but has no confidence.
/r/seduction05/06/20 06:57 PM
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Good looking guy here, and can confidently say that is false.
/r/seduction05/06/20 12:58 PM
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Yeah, logically it wouldn’t make sense to downvote this post. But in my experience, because it doesn’t sound like something a therapist would teach you, people are going to downvote it. That’s just with reddit posts in general.
/r/seduction05/06/20 01:30 AM
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Totally agreed. That also goes with approach anxiety. In my experience, you quickly get desensitized to both.
/r/seduction05/06/20 01:27 AM
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Absolutely agreed. I think that by studying the game, it will protect you more from those moments like rejection that are supposed to lower your confidence because you will know that it’s just a numbers game. But still, you need to find the right balance. I also think that after you’ve approached hundreds of women, your confidence will begin to stabilize because you have proof of getting with x amount of girls already and when you do get rejected, you will understand better that it’s just a part…
/r/seduction05/06/20 01:08 AM
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Congrats man! Keep it up. You will quickly become desensitized to the approach anxiety. Make sure you keep doing what you did consistently and be prepared for most girls to not be interested in you but if you keep it at you will quickly start getting results (phone numbers, dates, hookups, etc)! It’s an excellent feedback process actually. The results you get are gonna boost your confidence and women will pick up on it so it will become less of a numbers game the more you do it! But you will sti…
/r/seduction04/06/20 11:01 PM
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It depends what stage you are in with her. If you just met her, then I would say text her “hey, this is ______, we met yesterday” and ask how she is, but you want to quickly go for setting up a date. That is the only purpose of texting in the beginning. Say “Hey we should get a coffee some time, you seem cool! When are you available” and then schedule the day and time and wait until you guys meet. Avoid trying to get to know her over text, or trying to be funny or build attraction over text. Tru…
/r/seduction04/06/20 10:13 PM
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Absolutely. I would also suggest approaching other girls. You’ll forget about the girl who friend zoned you in no time. Basically do self improvement, including hobbies and working out, as well as working on your game and going out and making approaches on a consistent basis.
/r/seduction23/05/20 03:56 AM
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I got friend zoned even though I stated my intentions in the beginning by asking her out a couple times. I think that when a girl friendzones you, she just doesn’t find you physically attractive. but she likes your personality and thinks your chill and easy to get along with. Like the other user said, you’re not getting out of it unless you make huge changes in your appearance and personality, or make her jelouse by getting a girl hotter then her, etc.
/r/seduction22/05/20 07:41 PM
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I just think he’s a good. sincere dating coach that gives realistic practical advice.
/r/seduction17/05/20 07:59 PM
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I don’t expect to master. But I think just From sheer volume, with most girls rejecting me, I should be getting a lot more girls quality and quantity then most guys.
/r/seduction17/05/20 07:17 PM
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Mr Locario describes this perfectly.
/r/seduction17/05/20 07:16 PM
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Totally hear you man. I also became over confident when I first stumbled across AMS and quickly became humbled. The strategies are simply only logistical strategies, nothing to make you more attractive. That comes from the self improvement and repeated failure. I don’t expect to get with the first girl I talk to lol. I know that most girls won’t be interested in me. But since I will be approaching lots of girls every week, I’ll still get results fairly quickly, even if I had to go through 10 or …
/r/seduction17/05/20 09:22 AM
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Honestly all his videos are really informational. He’s certainly one of the better dating coaches. But where I think he stands out the most in my opinion is his videos on the female interest level concept, as well as as his videos regarding female nature and psychology, on both his YouTube and Patreon.
/r/seduction17/05/20 01:59 AM
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Lol honestly AMS preaches a lot of the same stuff that Corey Wayne does. It’s just more unfiltered and has a thuggish twist to it. A lot of people joke and say he’s the black Corey Wayne.
/r/seduction17/05/20 01:24 AM
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Look him up on YouTube.
/r/seduction17/05/20 01:18 AM
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Alpha Male Strategies
/r/seduction17/05/20 01:17 AM
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This is what AMS preaches. Always hold your masculine frame.
/r/seduction17/05/20 01:10 AM
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Yeah I think so. I remember lying though and telling girls I was over 18 and in college, and it didn’t work. But idk you shouldn’t have too much of a problem cause most girls seem to have an innate ability to tell if a guy is over or under 18 regardless lol.
/r/seduction04/05/20 12:39 AM
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I think it certainly could be an issue. I tried picking up girls who were older when I was 16-17 and looked at least my age if not a little older and thought they wouldn’t know. Trust me girls don’t want to take any chances and risk going to jail. I found that as soon as I turned 18-19 much more older women were making advances towards me, like they already knew my age.
/r/seduction04/05/20 12:25 AM
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Yeah, but other then that, really smart guy with good strategies. certainly one of the better dating coaches. The only dating coaches I would recommend are Tripp Advice, Mr Licario, AMS, and maybe Todd Valentine.
/r/seduction27/04/20 12:40 AM
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I like AMS a lot but I don’t really agree with his philosophy of only getting on your purpose and waiting on choosing signals, I think it’s better to cold approach. That’s why I’ve switched over to mainly Tripp and Mr.Licario, but sometimes I will still watch AMS mostly for entertainment.
/r/seduction27/04/20 12:35 AM
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Totally agree bro. You need to find your own way to do things. Most dating coaches feed you false information and there are only a small handful that are very good like Tripp Advice, Mr. Locario, and AMS. At your level, I would imagine you could easily find a girl in a week of approaching to sleep with you. I know that there are no pick up lines to change a girls mind, and that’s it not what you say but how you say it. So once I start getting dates and having sex, my confidence will skyrocket an…
/r/seduction26/04/20 11:23 PM
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I appreciate the knowledge bro, but I already know most of this stuff and was asking how to juggle the dates and approaches at the same time. Also, I understand you’ll have your good and bad days, but most progressional pick up artists say that you can expect to get phone numbers out of roughly 10-20 percent of approaches. So if you talk to 100 women, you should be able to get 10 dates and sleep with 3-4 girls, roughly average. We’re you a super hard case newbie to begin with? I’m also a 21 year…
/r/seduction26/04/20 11:08 PM
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Thank you so much for finally saying this 🙌 I have been trying to say it for so long flirting or asking out does almost nothing to make a girl like you it is simply a test to see if a girl is attracted to you or not. A lot of dating coaches confuse guys and make them believe that flirting itself will make the girl like you when it doesn’t. In fact, I don’t flirt much and just ask them out instead, it makes almost no difference.
/r/seduction26/04/20 09:31 PM
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That they are lying. Lol.
/r/seduction26/04/20 03:35 AM
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Well your interest in him was high enough that you would have, but due to your underlying intimacy issues, you wait a little longer, as would a conservative women. My point is that guys think that it takes years or being married with a girl for her to want to sleep with you, which is wrong. What ultimately dictates whether or when a girl sleeps with you is how high her attraction/interest level in you is. Those factors like how long she’s known you, if she has intimacy issues, if she is conserva…
/r/seduction25/04/20 11:06 PM
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I say fuck waiting for the perfect moment. You just need to ask her out, there doesn’t need to be a perfect moment to do it. If she’s interested, she will say yes, if not, she won’t, it’s that simple.
/r/seduction25/04/20 10:38 PM
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I also disagree that it takes such a long time to have a women want to be intimate with you. I always go by the three date rule. Trust me, a women has decided If she is interested in you and wants to be intimate with you very shortly after meeting you. Your issue isn’t that you women aren’t warmed up to you enough, but that you are pursuing women who aren’t interested in you to begin with or you have issues with your approach.
/r/seduction25/04/20 10:19 PM
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I’m sorry, I wholeheartedly disagree with this. As someone who used to use this plan in hopes of getting with a girl, I can assure you it only works in the movies. It has never worked for me and most of the girls that wanted to have sex with me were girls who didn’t even know my name. Going the friends route rarely works and the time you spend working on being her friend could be far better spent asking out other girls you meet who actually are interested in having sex with you. You need to keep…
/r/seduction25/04/20 10:17 PM
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I’ve learned that you’re either desperate or you’re not so you can’t really fake it. I personally don’t do a lot of flirting or seducing I just strike up a fairly normal conversation with maybe a bit of tension and flirting and then ask them out. That’s they key you can flirt all day but you need to ask them out or get them to meet up with you otherwise it won’t go anywhere and she could just be an attention whore. Don’t get discouraged when you get rejected it’s a numbers game there’s really no…
/r/seduction25/04/20 10:03 PM
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Agree with the other guys. I used to think the same thing that I should just focus on myself and let the girls come to me, but nothing really came out of it. If you approach, you can get results right away versus waiting months or years for your purpose to take off. It’s best to work on yourself and be approaching as well.
/r/seduction24/04/20 08:40 PM
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Work on yourself. Get in the gym and focus on your grooming and style, look your best, improve your financial situation, find hobbies,friends, go to Tripp Advice or Mr locario”s YouTube page to work on your game, and start approaching. Once you play the numbers game enough and start getting dates and having sex, you will develop and abundance mindset.
/r/seduction24/04/20 08:38 PM
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You have to realize that the more you do it, the easier it becomes, just like in practicing basketball. At first you’ll be nervous and awkward but you will quickly become desensitized.
/r/seduction22/04/20 08:52 PM
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I disagree. So many pick up artists and dating coaches have infield videos of girls they met on the city street who they took on instant dates and got with.
/r/seduction21/04/20 11:55 PM
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My experience is that those type of girls are the exceptions. I honestly find girls at the club to be a lot more bitchy. Bars and lounges at really good though. I say do mostly night game and some day game. Also don’t drink before you make your approaches. Girls can see right through that confidence and you’re not truly developing your game.
/r/seduction21/04/20 09:56 PM
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You can also do it in the streets. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/seduction21/04/20 09:52 PM
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Yes. Cold approach is the way. Once you get over approach anxiety and become comfortable with rejection, the world is your oyster. Waiting to meet girls organically takes much longer and gives you much less control over your dating and sex life.
/r/seduction21/04/20 09:51 PM
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I’ve been a loser all these years and that’s going to change very soon as I am going to take action steps to become one of the winners.
/r/seduction21/04/20 08:22 AM
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Totally agree. Getting laid is a rich get richer and broke stay broke deal. The guys who get sex are going to keep getting sex while the guys who don’t get sex are going to stay that way for the most part.
/r/seduction21/04/20 06:57 AM
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I used to be all about working on myself and “waiting for choosing signals” like AMS teaches. The issue is that guys who get choosing signals are guys who are in that none hungry state of mind, the problem is most young guys like myself and all guys in general are rarely going to be in a completely none hungry state of mind. The other thing is cold approach and the numbers game gives you way more control over your dating and sex life, while choosing signals if you are lucky enough to get them yo…
/r/seduction20/04/20 11:53 PM
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Well even in moderation, your confidence can you up a lot. Idk I would recomend only having like one drink to hold in your hand but waiting to get even tipsy until after your approaches. You’ll develop your game a lot faster that way and also girls can see right through the fake confidence that drinking gives you. They know any guy is going to be confident after a couple drinks.
/r/seduction19/04/20 03:18 AM
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Did you approach after you had a few drinks! I heard that you shouldn’t do that cause you’re not truly developing your game. I also heard that girls can pick up on if your just confident because you had a few drinks. What are you thoughts and experiences with this?
/r/seduction18/04/20 08:30 PM
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I hear you but it also depends on your goals. My first is obviously to get kissed and have sex but I know for a fact that will happen by sheer volume so my end goal is to develop the confidence I need to easily attract good looking women. Most guys interested in PUA are incels or rarely get ass, and pick up artists talk about these numbers given most guys that watch them get don’t get any pussy, to be fair. I’m not a super hard case newbie, so I don’t think it will take me that long.
/r/seduction18/04/20 06:49 PM
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So you didn’t ask out or try to get contact information from most girls? But some asked you out? How much success did you have? Did you go home with any girls? How many dates did you get? Out of the dates how many girls did you end up sleeping with? Agree with all your tips. Although I personally don’t like clubs for picking up girls it’s too loud and girls will reject you more rudely. I prefer bars or lounges.
/r/seduction18/04/20 06:04 PM
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How many approaches did you make? 50-100? We’re you just trying to get laid or find a girlfriend? My goals are to develop the confidence and swagger I need to be able to attract good looking women easily and I’m thinking I can get their within 3-6 months making a few hundred approaches. I feel like once I start having sex and sleep with multiple women my confidence and abundance mindset will skyrocket and girls will pick up on that and I can easily seduce them as long as their single, available,…
/r/seduction18/04/20 09:42 AM
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Man chill out. I’ve done some limited pickup here and there and the confidence boost I’ve gotten from getting just one phone number was massive and the other girls I approached the rest of the day picked up on it and were very attracted to me. If you don’t have deep seated social anxiety, you can overcome any approach anxiety after just a couple approaches like I was able to. My goal is to be able to develop my inner game to easily attract good looking women, and as of right now, I just want to …
/r/seduction18/04/20 08:40 AM
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I mean obviously there’s not going to be a perfect algorithm, but that is roughly what most pick up artists and dating coaches see. I’m not just pulling those numbers out of my ass.....and if you don’t like working with numbers then what are you doing on this page? Pick up and seduction is all about a numbers game.
/r/seduction18/04/20 08:10 AM
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Yeah talking on the phone is pretty good. Idk I just find a lot of guys including myself try to play games over text and I’ve had girls misinterpret what I said and it ruined a perfectly good opportunity so I’m pretty keen on using it just to set up a date, and find the less you talk the better cause you don’t want to talk yourself out of it.
/r/seduction14/04/20 01:07 AM
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Yeah haha probably shouldn’t have said that but I honestly didn’t think it would be taken that seriously I’m new to Reddit.
/r/seduction12/04/20 05:19 AM
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Agreed, I can’t officially be giving advice until I get receipts, but for someone like this guy who doesn’t know where to begin, my advice is certainly not a bad starting advice, better advice then 98 percent of guys would give, even though I don’t have any receipts yet.
/r/seduction11/04/20 07:07 AM
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I have never used it before but it’s been prescribed by dating coaches who are NOT virgins but swimming in pussy. I’m not a 21 year old virgin because my strategies don’t work, it’s because I haven’t gotten off my lazy ass to apply them. In terms of my outer game and knowledge, I have mastered game and pickup, it is simply a matter of going out and applying it.
/r/seduction11/04/20 05:59 AM
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A big part of stepping up your online dating game is finding the right pictures because your looks are very important in online dating and you need to look your best. I don’t agree that you should wait several days to make something happen. Maybe without quarantine, but this situation changes the game and you should set up a phone call and video date much earlier.
/r/seduction11/04/20 05:34 AM
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Bro honestly I think we have it better. I would much rather be giving in sex then taking. And it is a lot harder for us but that also means the actual sex is way better cause the anticipation feels amazing. It is frustrating for most guys but not the guys who know how to talk to girls. Those guys have the most fun.
/r/seduction11/04/20 04:54 AM
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I mention the friends thing because this guy seems like he’s trying to sneak in to her through the back door thinking being her friend will get her to like him, as I used to think, but it’s false.
/r/seduction11/04/20 03:49 AM
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This isn’t a bad way to go about it but also a bit try hard in my opinion. None the less, I think it’s a bad idea to try to build attraction over text because it leaves room for misinterpretation, I know from experience. She’s going to be attracted to you from your personality traits she sees in person like confidence, humor, charisma, as well as your looks. I would say confidence is the most important personality traits to get her hooked. Use texting only as a tool to set up a date. Unfortunate…
/r/seduction11/04/20 03:48 AM
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Yeah, girls are very bipolar with their interest, I know first hand. Girls also give a lot of guys false hope, and this sounds like that may be it. I had a girl who I met online who took my number and said she’d give me a FaceTime but never did. I would say just keep it moving and keep dming other girls and when this quarantine ends go out and socialize and meet other really cool girls you like. If she comes back around and agrees to meet up with you then great otherwise keep it moving, I wouldn…
/r/seduction11/04/20 03:01 AM
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Absolutely agreed. Even very good looking guys can hardly get results with online dating while average girls can go on tinder and find a guy in seconds. It is what it is I guess in a way it makes it more fun cause the anticipation of the reward can sometimes be better then the actual reward (getting laid).
/r/seduction11/04/20 02:58 AM
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The longer you beat around the bush the higher chance you have of coming off as creepy. Just gotta ask her out and make your intentions known. She could say no, but you never know until you ask, and if she does say no, you can move on to another really cute girl who’s cool.
/r/seduction11/04/20 02:56 AM
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Well I’ve never had sex or even been kissed before and I am a 21 year old guy so no difference for me. Yeah you can just need to step up your online dating game and I’m sure you will find girls who will be willing to invite you over to hookup.
/r/seduction11/04/20 02:54 AM
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