Just read this on the front page of my school's newspaper. How true are these statistics?

levelate · 2012-09-08T02:46:05+00:00

how do they correlate all these unreported assaults?

itaintme · 2012-09-08T03:51:47+00:00

Well, it's pretty difficult to accurately analyze sexual assaults that are not reported, so always take statistics like this with a grain of salt.

However, when you google "unreported sexual assault" the numbers that you come up with aren't significantly different.

TenspeedGV · 2012-09-08T03:41:20+00:00

I just want to point out one little line that really caught my eye:

"The survivor of the assault can feel like he or she is at fault," Ryan said. "As hard as we work to dispel that feeling, it doesn't always work."

Looks like Assistant Chief of Police Andrew Ryan has it right here. Let's hope that his acknowledgement that both men and women can be victims of sexual assault has found or is finding its way through his department. We need more police like this man.

McFeely_Smackup · 2012-09-08T03:53:46+00:00

how true are the statistics? Depends on if you subscribe to their definition of rape or not. What most people think of as rape, is a statistically rare crime...but that's not very useful for posters, booklets, and scare seminars...so rape is defined down to levels you'd be surprised to find how many times YOU have been raped without realizing it.

In fact, an important element of rape awareness education is doing exactly that...explaining to young women they've already been raped and just didn't know it.

So be very aware when you see stats like this that they are either not being intellectually honest, or if they think they are..then every person with a penis is in their crosshairs.

Bobsutan · 2012-09-08T06:42:54+00:00

Why are they focusing on gender when it happens to both men and women? That alone, them making this about gender, disqualifies them from being taken seriously.

ObsidianOverlord · 2012-09-08T02:35:09+00:00

Okay, I may be out of line when I say this, but why do we say sexual assault 'survivors?'

I mean, to me it seems like it's a given that someone who was sexually assaulted survived or it would be called murder.

Is this just a way to make it seem even worse than it already is, or am I just getting paranoid?

ZenNudist · 2012-09-08T03:20:56+00:00

I think there is a bit of a disconnect about what a sexual assault is thought of on campus vs. how one is thought about off of campus. On campus, they are eager to regard any incident in which the girl has been drinking as a sexual assault (and to be fair, there are douchebags out there on most campuses that get women drunk in order to sleep with them). Once you leave college, sexual assault tends to be more along the lines of forceful or coerced sexual contact and the "had a few drinks at a bar or house party and then had sex, therefore rape" sort of dies off. That's my perspective at least.

** Note: Many campuses have programs in place where a student can report a sexual assault to the campus police without filing charges. The rape kit is done and the evidence is recorded, and the name of the accused is kept on record. I believe this is so, should another report against the same person happen, the case is stronger and the victims are less hesitant to press charges.

(On a related note, any time an estimate for any value is listed without a methodology, expect bullshit)

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-09-08T05:51:31+00:00

You can't measure unreported crimes.

2012-09-08T21:17:19+00:00

It is logically impossible to estimate for a total unknown. How do you estimate unreported or under reported anything? Perhaps one of the two reporting the crimes was lying? Would that mean that 50% of reported rapes are false? What is the basis of their estimate? What are their assumptions? Are they reasonable?

Title	Just read this on the front page of my school's newspaper. How true are these statistics?
Author	demengrad
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Date	September 8, 2012 2:29 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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