Wrong man was executed in Texas, probe says. He was the spitting image of the killer, had the same first name and was near the scene of the crime at the fateful hour: Carlos DeLuna paid the ultimate price.

Revoran · 2012-05-15T21:29:22+00:00

So a guy with a criminal background who has a common first name and looks identical to a murderer gets wrongly convicted and killed.

This is horrible, but the death penalty is economically stupid, given that it costs so much in legal fees to get to that point.

momentary_rot_button · 2012-05-15T21:12:14+00:00

fuck the death penalty

2012-05-15T21:32:00+00:00

I think I missed something. Yes, this is a sad case and one hell of a fluke, but I don't see how this pertains to the MRM.

wavegeek · 2012-05-16T06:43:23+00:00

Eyewitness identification is totally unreliable. As shown, again, in this case.

mmm1kko · 2012-05-16T07:33:26+00:00

I guess it might be a mens rights issue because more men get executed than women.

I guess I oppose the death penalty because the economics behind it suck. A death penalty with it's complicated legal procedures costs multiple times what a life sentence does, so it makes no sense except as a revenge. Revenge shouldn't ever be a motivation in penalties.

Now if we could do the trials cheaply, effectively and without error I'd be all for it but because errors like this case happen I'm opposed. Every time somebody is falsely convicted to death the trial and appeal procedures get more costly and convoluted.

MRMRising · 2012-05-16T01:55:54+00:00

This is why I am against the Death penalty, it can not be reversed, when there is a fuck up.

tarpdetarp · 2012-05-16T09:08:00+00:00

There's a much better article at the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/15/carlos-texas-innocent-man-death

And discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/tnyvc/the_wrong_carlos_how_texas_sent_an_innocent_man/

SpanishGuy · 2012-05-15T22:14:08+00:00

Even "all the relatives of both Carloses mistook them," and DeLuna was sentenced to death and executed based only on eyewitness accounts despite a range of signs he was not a guilty man, said law professor James Liebman.

"Unfortunately, the flaws in the system that wrongfully convicted and executed DeLuna -- faulty eyewitness testimony, shoddy legal representation and prosecutorial misconduct -- continue to send innocent men to their death today," read a statement that accompanies the report.

I think this is in part a consequence of the retributive justice. I mean, as longer as somebody pays for something, it's OK. But the eagerness to convict people is a source for every kind of mistake.

Now take that retributive justice, the family courts and the "social justice" that feminism preaches, shake it a little, and there you have one of the most awful things that a system can do to its own people.

klonozopanour · 2012-05-15T21:28:26+00:00

The moral of this story.

If you're a man, don't have a common name.

Otherwise if the po-po don't find the culprit, they'll find the closest looking thing to the culprit.

Why?

Because men, especially cis-men should just die anyway. Men are needed by this world like a fish needs a bicycle.

Really, only 10% of men are needed anyway. The rest are cannon fodder.

Go-go feminism!

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-05-16T06:58:22+00:00

Spitting image of a killer? The most notorious killers in history were notoriously average looking.

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