Local business: "Girl Power: Martial Arts for Girls," imagine "Man Power: Martial Arts for Men." How long would that last? Why is this discrimination allowed?

2010-11-25T10:13:48+00:00

Sorry to say it, but I wish there were more interest in targeting 'real' martial arts for women. There's some benefit to mixed gender classes. In all probability, a woman would be going up against a guy if it came to an actual fight. But the reality is that quite often the woman just winds up with a substandard experience because somewhere down the line a "don't hit girls" rule popped up in a lot of peoples minds. And if not hers as well, than quite possibly her friends and family who'll try to convince her that she shouldn't be sore or in pain after learning to endure things that cause pain.

Sucks, but there are physical differences in men and women that make mixed training difficult. I can't really blame anyone for wanting just one or the other.

dakboy · 2010-11-25T12:50:04+00:00

Same thing as the Curves chain of gyms.

andrewmto · 2010-11-25T17:22:59+00:00

I'm a man and used to teach women's self defense. If you think this is discrimination, then you're simply childish. Really. It's like saying the womens sports is discriminating against men. Just silly.

Grammar-Hitler · 2010-11-25T06:23:25+00:00

Technically, this discrimination isn't allowed--the business in Op's pic could not have gotten a small business loan from the federal government.

PPSF · 2010-11-25T18:14:25+00:00

Because 'Martial Arts for Men' is just called Martial Arts.

thetrollking · 2010-11-25T05:53:21+00:00

Normally I'd agree, but martial arts are extremely male-dominated and many women are intimidated by the idea of training with men because, honestly, you're bigger, stronger and scarier than us. Certainly not all women have that issue (I train in karate with men, personally) but I could certainly see how martial arts would be one of those things where a woman might be simply uncomfortable training with men. Hence the need for a female-only martial arts club.

It can actually work both ways - it's the same idea as the completely separate and private men's class at the pole-dancing studio I belong to. Men are welcome in the women's classes, but not the other way around. Just an example to show that this type of thing exists for both genders. Admittedly, the female-exclusive clubs occur more often, but this usually happens because there are far more male-dominated fields that women are trying to break into than the opposite.

poffin · 2010-11-25T19:39:17+00:00

Women want separate environments (whether it be gyms, schools, anything really) because the mixed-gendered environments are not actually female friendly. Women seek out women's gyms because there they face a far lower chance of harassment.

CommentMan · 2010-11-25T05:10:27+00:00

Is that in Vegas?

notweirdatall · 2010-11-25T08:47:40+00:00

My martial arts teacher once touched on the subject of of male vs female in self defense, speaking from his own experience. The female group needed to learn to be more aggressive to the point where they could defend themselves, while the males needed to learn to control themselves so they wouldn't kill their opponents. He always felt sorry for the guy who had to dress up as the "dummy attacker" for the males' class. Apparently he would just get wailed on.

2010-11-25T16:58:10+00:00

I think this is fine if woman AND man can both have their unisex martial arts club.

mean0dean0 · 2010-11-25T23:45:39+00:00

I think it's pretty harmless--after all, the vast majority of martial arts practitioners are still men. Even some of the disciplines--boxing and MMA especially, don't even allow cross-gender competition, keeping different rules for weight classes, fight regulations, and uniforms. It's only when men's martial arts are banned in favor of women's martial arts, as I'm seeing at the college level with intramural sports subsidies from the University, that I call shenanigans.

ghostchamber · 2010-11-26T04:23:34+00:00

Probably the same reason we don't have "White Entertainment Television."

2010-11-25T07:03:28+00:00

I'm sorry, but I think you need to relax a bit ... it must be really tiring to go through life feeling like something as trivial as this is discriminating against you. I'm not being a dick, I honestly think you need to lighten up a bit - sorry if it comes across as not understanding or whatever ...

2010-11-25T06:34:51+00:00

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crocodile7 · 2010-11-25T19:42:30+00:00

Manpower means something entirely different. My first association is with low-wage manual labor.

Beatofficer · 2010-11-25T12:06:00+00:00

This is a ridiculously stupid post. That's like saying Curves is discriminatory. You need to seek out therapy if this kind of shit really bothers you.

Title	Local business: "Girl Power: Martial Arts for Girls," imagine "Man Power: Martial Arts for Men." How long would that last? Why is this discrimination allowed?
Author	AdamJaz
Upvotes	9
Comments	33
Date	November 25, 2010 4:32 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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