Yet another good father driven to suicide by the family court system.

G5Man · 2010-07-28T17:52:59+00:00

I've been through this. It is unreal. My ex is remarried and I pay 1095 a month for two children I don't get to see. 1095. On top of that I became 17k in arrears when I wasn't working. Didn't matter to the courts. Pay up bitch. So now my monthly bill is 2095 a month with 1k a month going to the arrears.

It is a living nightmare.

carchamp1 · 2010-07-28T18:23:05+00:00

I love how one mistake will legally cost you for the rest of your life. Seriously spousal support should be abolished completely. One of my friends just got divorced and he is being forced to pay 3 grand a month for child support and spousal support. His child support is 1 grand and his wife gets 2 grand in spousal. The bitch never has to work again in her life because it is all tax free!

stacyah · 2010-07-28T15:15:56+00:00

Why does an outside body have the power to control people's lives? Why don't we have the power to changes that governing body? Why is there no existing effective way to see changes through?

boogadahobbie · 2010-07-28T21:25:52+00:00

Reminds me of how my own ma gouged my dad in court, and didn't do shit for me and my brother with the money -- but she did spend a pretty penny on a vacation to Antigua.

I think it's sick how society thinks that women are automatically better parents than men, to the extent that men are essentially treated like sperm donors when it comes to them being allowed to be parents. In reality, most women that take men to court over divorce don't even have a case; they just know the system will help them manipulate every dime they can out of the father.

Meanwhile, thankfully my pops made it out alive. He's a kind, corny gardener, with an income as humble as he is. Somehow, through clever saving, while he has never been wealthy enough to put me through college, he'd buy me gear and legit software whenever he could so I could learn my trade. And now I have a lucrative career.

My ma spent all of hers, mine and my bro's inheritance on trips to Italy with her new husband and a house that they now cannot afford. Yet all the while, she was the one with custody over us. She wouldn't let my dad have equal custody, but she loved to kick us both out of the house aaaaaalll the time. Which is funny, because the police never had any problem helping her kick us out, even though we were 14-16 and it's fucking illegal. Nevermind how she'd hurt herself on purpose and call the cops saying it was us.

I have no remorse for bitches like this that know they can abuse the system to take advantage of men.

I know I sound like a douche, but some of us have very good reasons for expecting a LOT of a woman for them to earn our respect.

2010-07-28T17:21:57+00:00

This is the world we've created. If we had a social net like Europe, women and children wouldn't be at as much risk for poverty themselves.

Look up what child support is in Germany. It's fixed for each child (est of numbers since I'm too lazy to look it up again). 1 ~ 180 Euro/mo, 2 ~ 195 Euro/mo, 3 ~ 215 Euro/mo. That's it, it stops at 3.

skooma714 · 2010-07-28T17:38:32+00:00

Men: Do not end up like Frankie. Avoid marriage, cohabitation and kids with western women.

Gullyvuhr · 2010-07-28T19:36:25+00:00

I don't like reading these stories anymore than the next guy, and I have friends who have been raked over the coals pretty badly -- but what are the actually best way to change this?

Abolish spousal support? There are situations where the wife and husband did agree she could stay at home, they split up, and now she has no marketable skills to live off of. I don't see this as any more/less fair than the current situation -- it just changes who becomes victimized by the split.

Of course in the case of the ex remarrying, I have no idea why or how spousal support is justified, so I do simply mean in terms of at the point of divorce. I also think there should be no child support forced payments, as children aren't a "fixed-cost" item. In the event one parnet fights for and wins full custody, that should end the other parent's responsibility legally right there -- I wonder how many people would actually battle for full custody if not for the knoweldge of the child support payment that comes with it?

2010-07-29T02:48:24+00:00

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Realworld · 2010-07-29T02:06:51+00:00

I'll repeat what I said on another thread:

You need to deal with the limited options men face in america. The surest way to stay in control of your financial future is to have a vasectomy & stay single. It may not be fair, but that's the way it is.

I got a vasectomy when I was poor & single in my 20s. I watched as so many of my peers were destroyed by family court. Income that others paid for divorce settlements & child support I put into long-term investments & current adventures. I retired at age 47 with more $$ than I'd ever need.

I encourage fellow american males to follow this path.

Title	Yet another good father driven to suicide by the family court system.
Author	theseusastro
Upvotes	114
Comments	65
Date	July 28, 2010 2:24 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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