Can we talk about the future of mens rights?

DavidByron2 · 2021-09-16T04:11:06+00:00

More of the same for now. Women get everything, men get nothing and are vilified and called rapists. Men will continue to drop out of the system which depends upon them so the ruling class will pull out the usual shit (shaming, prison, violence, threats) to get men back to work. If there's any attempt to address the underlying issue it will be too little too late. You know the usual bullshit feminist solutions like classes for male rape victims that tell them they're the real rapist.

Disastrous_Ice_5073 · 2021-09-16T03:55:48+00:00

Things will keep getting worse. Then a meteor will free us from tyranny. Most men are simps that were raised by women.

GeneralStoic · 2021-09-16T04:04:34+00:00

Personally, I think there is going to come a time when men as a whole have had enough and there will be enough consensus among us that things need to change and we will make that happen the same way women have been doing. Its clear as day that there is an issue, but not enough has happened to make men snap yet.

There is already a large portion of Men that have already snapped. Heard of MGTOW? Men that are swearing off dating and marriage, and walking away from societal responsibility and focusing on bettering themselves, and ultimately, going their own way.

Obviously, mgtow has been painted as incels angry at women, which is the opposite of the truth. And the funny thing is, feminists know mgtow is right, that's why there have been massive campaigns to remove them from every platform and silence them. These Men are just sick and tired of being walked all over them, social pressures, and have woken up to the broken system that we live currently. And instead of speaking up to "fix it", they are saying "Fuck it, you got what you want" and walking away. Let the feminists have what they want, and watch them destroy themselves, because that is inevitably going to happen.

TrilIias · 2021-09-16T14:24:14+00:00

Here's how I see it going:

The MRM will slowly increase in popularity, but never become mainstream. We criticize both feminists and traditionalist conservatives, both of the two main ideological "sides" are against us. We can use this to our advantage, because while both sides are against us, they are also against each other.

We can force feminism to change. By bringing men's issues to public attention, feminists are forced to say "we care about men's issues too. They will have to either at least pretend to care about men, or they will be discredited.

I think the recent decision that women will be subject to the draft is a good example. We backed feminists into a corner, either they do what we want and actually pursue equality when it harms women, or we might actually get some support.

The problem is that this will never result in any real equality for men. When feminists organizations like the NOW wrote an amicus brief in support of the men's rights groups' lawsuit regarding conscription, they said that only conscripting men was just another way that women were being treated like second class citizens. Only caring about men's rights when it is necessary to advance women's position or feminism isn't the same as giving a crap about men or equality.

I think we as a species are biologically driven to care about women, even at the expense of men. I don't think that's something we can change, at best we can use it to our advantage, but that has limitations. I think it's all we can accomplish in our lifetimes, but it might serve as the ground work for future accomplishments. While I don't think we can change human nature, individuals can override it. That takes time, and can't be done on a large scale. It has to be done on an individual level.

As individuals, the best thing we can do is make ourselves indispensable, whether that be at work, our local communities, wherever we can. I think a lot of people instinctively see MRAs as losers who are just throwing a pathetic tantrum, and I think for a lot of us, that is true (as with any political group), but I've also consistently been impressed by how diligent many MRAs are, and just how long of an attention span many of us have. That's rare, but it's also important to keep in mind that most of the general public isn't interested in a long discussion about how the domestic violence statistics are actually useless if you dig deep into the methodologies.

Superb_Disaster_7676 · 2021-09-16T08:47:45+00:00

One problem with men’s rights is that it’s not considered “sexy” like feminism is. Women can be men-hating feminists and still get laid and have a wide social support network. Usually when a man starts talking about men’s rights, women will stop sleeping with him and he will lose most of his social support. Society rewards women for looking out for their own interests but it punishes men for doing the same.

Honestly it would be great for men’s rights to be considered an acceptable movement. It’s gonna take a lot more for that to happen though, and I fear that because look at what we put up with already.

SpiritusExAaron · 2021-09-16T02:29:03+00:00

Even though some feminists mean well and do try to address men's issues too, men's issues have been overlooked at times.

Due to the terrible optics of modern day third wave feminism and its inability to ditch some of its toxic second wave baggage, It is very possible the men's rights people could become a way bigger movement. The consequence might be a regression in the social standing of women but men will make their issues heard.

It is sad people have to be so tribal with each other but history seems to say humans have to take extreme actions to get change.

f4z3ultr1x · 2021-09-16T08:01:09+00:00

mrm will probably go the same way as feminism at some point

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2021-09-16T02:25:35+00:00

But as I said before, it is never enough for them. They are going to continue pushing for more and more and it will all come at the expense of men

What rights do you think women are taking from men and how can men prevent it?

Because I don't see a way in which women are taking any rights from men.

Title	Can we talk about the future of mens rights?
Author	Gardener2005
Upvotes	27
Comments	28
Date	September 15, 2021 5:53 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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