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Conservative white knight writing for Newsweek goes crazy about the idea of women being included in a military draft. Men, conservatives are not your friend

JannTosh12

October 29, 2021
110 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.newsweek.com/congressional-republicans-want-draft-your-daughter-opinion-1642413
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Title Conservative white knight writing for Newsweek goes crazy about the idea of women being included in a military draft. Men, conservatives are not your friend
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JannTosh12

Upvotes 110
Comments 59
Date October 29, 2021 2:19 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qi2gh5/conservative_white_knight_writing_for_newsweek/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/1081230
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Comments

[–]susfusstruss 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

democrat here

they don't care about us either

[–]NohoTwoPointOh 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They care about you far less. The DNC is a hyper/feminized party since Debbie and Donna.

[–]JannTosh12[S] 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh definitely but in a different way. Liberals see men as “privileged” , conservatives see men as disposable

[–]falante788 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They both see men as disposable and privileged

[–]Vaudeville_Clown 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True, and the liberals expose themselves when men just liberally choose not to partake.

[–]knichols98 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Untrue. As a real conservative woman, I value men. I respect men and I appreciate men

[–]DerickSFrazer 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately because someone who calls themself a conservative doesn’t mean that “conservatives support men”. The power hierarchy in the state houses are domineered by attorneys who only have their own best interests at mind.

We do appreciate your support don’t get me wrong. Reconsidering any potential blind support of conservative leadership is of utmost importance.

[–]dekrin8 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Same here I am also left wing and I can't have a conversation with anyone on the left online without being called an incel. I find right wing people online empathetic to my issues, but then their discussions take an uncomfortable turn really quickly.

Offline my ring wing friends are pretty much like "HTFU we all have problems and I don't want to hear it" and my left wing friends are a bit more empathetic but essentially they are still just saying HTFU with nicer words

I think at the end of the day this is a mens issue that pretty much any guy will experience regardless of politics and I'm seeing more and more guys on the left calling out BS these days at least

[–]ne14611braska 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Me too. I'm in Europe and am traditionalist in social values, but really left-wing politically. It's hard to find politicians who have the nerve to represent these views.

[–]pudgebone 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is what I don't get. The current political system only favors the current political system. None of them, ok like three of them, actually care about average Americans.

[–]__pulsar 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not that hard to understand. The founding fathers knew this would happen.

Government inevitably grows too large and the focus shifts from serving the public to serving themselves in. (Not that it was ever only about serving the public.)

The federal government is basically its own country within the United States.

[–]Good_Stuff11 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn’t matter if they’re conservative or liberal most of these cucks don’t care about us

[–]intactUS_throwaway 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless you have money, you have no friends in politics... and even then, those friends are fair-weather at best.

[–]jckadmium 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, they aren’t. They tend to enforce traditional gender stereotypes which is what the antiquated child support system relies on.

[–]g1455ofwater 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Democrats feel the same way except they also lie on top of it.

[–]itchyotcthy 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Read the title and the thought in my head is:

Why is any country still drafting anyone? Countries have rockets, weapons, drones that can 'we are told in the propaganda on any news in the world' (non American here living in Europe) and so why do they need men at all? Quite frankly. And you men that are in the military 'are you proud, pleased, excited about being able to kill other human beings any way you can and in any form you can?'.......

[–]SkullAngel001 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You misunderstand. It's not a draft. The United States has what's called "Selective Service" (which men at age 18 must consent to). What this means is if there was a national catastrophe like aliens invading or World War III where the U.S. military is overwhelmed, the Selective Service can call upon said men to fight in order to bolster our forces.

The Newsweek opinion article is about how the potential of getting women into the Selective Service via new legislation is a terrible idea. It's basically like the plot of that Chris Pratt movie, The Tomorrow War (2021).

[–]itchyotcthy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. I guess I don't care what it is called... ""Selective Service" (which men at age 18 must consent to)" so there is no choice here but to appear and then hopefully one is not selected... when I grew up and got the TV and saw American programs it was always pushed that every one wanted to go to the USA because it was a free society ... excuse me while throw up in the nearest bucket and have my back slapped to dislodged the big fat lie I swallowed inadvertently as a non American...

[–]SkullAngel001 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

so there is no choice here but to appear and then hopefully one is not selected...

Let me rephrase because you're clearly hearing what you want to hear. The U.S. Armed Forces is a VOLUNTEER service. Conscription was outlawed by former President Nixon after Vietnam. Selective Service replaced it if the U.S. military needed extra help in case of a national or worldwide emergency.

when I grew up and got the TV and saw American programs it was always pushed that every one wanted to go to the USA because it was a free society ...

America is a free country relative to other countries such as Cuba and North Korea. But what you clearly don't understand is that FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. Many Americans (myself included) cherish the freedoms previous generations fought for and I will not hesitate to answer the Selective Service call to keep the United States free from threats both foreign and domestic.

excuse me while throw up in the nearest bucket and have my back slapped to dislodged the big fat lie I swallowed inadvertently as a non American...

America isn't responsible for whatever misinformation or sensationalized rhetoric you were fed growing up.

[–]itchyotcthy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you and no further comment.

[–]NohoTwoPointOh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Guess you didn’t learn the backstory behind “the surge”?

[–]itchyotcthy 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No. Please inform me ....

[–]_shiwoshiwo_ 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Inform me as well

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been saying this all along and all the triggered cuckservatives (all conservatives, no exceptions including all of you who are thinking of replying "bUt nOt mE" or anything similar) who are trying to hijack this sub gets their panties up in a bunch. Cuckservatives (all conservatives, no exceptions. Yes I need to reiterate that.) are pro-life feminists. In my country, they aren't even pro-life and are open, full-blown feminists. At least the libcucks are open in their contempt of men.

Cuckservative=simps.

[–]EmperorCrispy 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

No offense op but I've seen conservatives from media to politicians defend men and mens rights way more then I've seen liberals do it. And in general I find the people who are conservative in general are way more open to the idea that mens rights are treated like a joke in this nation. Ive never had a liberal agree with me on that. So I call bs. Of corse not every conservative politician cares about men. But I've seen more respect for men and mens rights from the right then the left. Just saying. Plus your title seams like bait.

[–]79malibu350 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can I get an amen?

[–]princelydeeds 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This...

[–]JannTosh12[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Which ones? I see the occasional ones like Tucker Carlson but most seem to be of the traditional “men must protect women” , “men are disposable”, mode

[–]EmperorCrispy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well ben Shapiro for one he may be meemed a lot due to the whole facts and logic. But I've seen him debunk many feminist myths and defend mens rights. And he tends to be more on the right. And I'm also mostly saying that conservatives as a group. People who are with the ideology are more open to considering that mens rights are treated like a joke in this nation. Liberals and left leaning ideology's across the board are the only political ideology that I've seen promote more women in every field except the dangerous ones. Ive really only seen conservatives bring up false rape accusations as a problem. Ive only seen liberals bring up toxic masculinity unironicly. And even though social media isnt reflective of society as a whole. There are tons of anti men sentiments on twitter. Twitter being a leftist leaning website. With an account literally called cancel mens rights. And that account bombs tump and republicans a ton.

[–]EmperorCrispy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Plus california a state known for being a very blue state run by a very liberal government. Was the state that passed the law where. If you have an all white male boardroom or a boardroom without any woman you can be fired. Or fined. Ive only seen conservatives complain about this law. Most liberals I've seen are in love with this new law and want it passed nationwide. I don't think I even need to say more after that

[–]bulletkiller06 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Funny, I've never once seen a politician defend men's rights.

I have however, seen many an anarchist from many a place in the world support equalitarian views that actually acknowledge the idea of issues specific to men and support trying to change them.

The only thing conservatives care about is getting richer

The only thing democrats care about is looking good

The only people who care about you, are you and people who've been through similar struggles, which the politicians never will.

[–]EmperorCrispy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You're entitled to an opinion but that is wrong. Conservatives have defended mens rights plenty of times. And once again I'm also talking about how conservitives as a political community are more open to the advancement of mens rights. You have a very pessimistic view of both sides. I fully agree there are some of those types of people on both sides. But not every politician is evil or something. And tbh man I've not seen an anarchist do anything meaningful political wise in a long time. So I call bs

[–]bulletkiller06 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yea, Anarchist don't do anything political wise.

Because they don't think politics is the way to fix things

We live in a shitty society that feeds the powerful endlessly and oppresses the impoverished, no politician cares for anything more than continuing to be a politician. They'll feed you any line to continue to sit there and do nothing.

Conservatives don't care about anyone but themselves, anything they say about change is just a farce wrapped in their admittedly genuine world view, say what you will about that world veiw, but nothing will change unless you make it.

[–]EmperorCrispy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Funny how you say its just conservatives that do that. Keep going on your pessimistic way man. We are trying to start change. Not stand around mumbling about how bad everything is.

[–]bulletkiller06 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Change who dose and doesn't deserve rights you mean?

Or perhaps increasing poverty and violence is your passion?

Decreasing tax brackets for the rich?

Blindly following the person who promises to beat back the woke SJW libtards the most?

The left libertarians have their faults, but Jesus Christ are the trad cons something else.

[–]EmperorCrispy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lmao making a blanket statement about conservatives wanting to take away rights from everybody. When that in itself is discrimination. Ah yes its definitely conservative states that have the most crime. Detroit and new York don't exist at all. And again another blanket statement I don't blindly follow anybody. And hey I think its good to beat back the sjw masses. You don't know how annoying it is being lgbtq and having all those people speak on your behalf saying how oppressed you are. Its unbearable.

[–]Antique_Cheesecake25 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Noone cares about men

[–]__pulsar 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I get why people want women to be required to register for the draft.

All I'll say is that if I'm ever drafted and see actual combat, I do not want to be in a mixed gender unit.

[–]jadedlonewolf89 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Infantry training is no joke and when they added women to the mix without the exact same training and started mixing them into the units things got hairy fast not saying women can’t do the job, just that in a combat situation having someone you have to carry because they haven’t been trained properly can be a death sentence.

[–]zackaryyrakcaz 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*Politicians are not your friend. Any stranger who says they're your "friend" is trying to sell you something. Don't buy it.

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[–]knichols98 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. I don't want equal pay

[–]princelydeeds 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One guy says something you don't agree with and that means Conservatives are not your friend?

What an incredibly simple minded, point of view.

Multiple levels of stupid...

Good luck...

[+]imextremelymoderate-8 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Conservative bad. Democrat good. Thanks for your analysis

[–]_shiwoshiwo_ 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bad bad. Good good. Much better summary

[–]JannTosh12[S] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I said that where?

[–]DerickSFrazer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I learned this the hard way when conservatives killed the equal shared parenting bill that I helped to introduce in Georgia.

Unfortunately everything is controlled by the state BAR associations. Attorneys are ruining everything and the BAR has heavy handed influence on all three branches of Government. Nothing short of RICO.

[–]DIES-_-IRAE 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No they are not.

Neither are 'liberals'.

That's why I hate seeing politicizing posts like this in MRA spaces; politics ruins everything it touches, just look at Feminism.

[–]JannTosh12[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where did I say liberals care?

[–]bulletkiller06 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"democrats" don't care.

True left wingers, care for true equality.

[–]nevermock 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm a conservative and I'm actually very much on board with the female draft. I believe exposure to eat well humble women and open their eyes. It will give them wisdom.

[–]goodmod[M] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You have been shadowbanned by reddit admins (not by mensrights moderators). See /r/ShadowBan for information about shadowbans.

I have approved this comment so I can reply to you.

It seems reddit has a bot that looks for certain types of user behaviour that indicate spamming or brigading. Sometimes innocent users get shadowbanned along with the bad guys. Usually they can fix this if they contact the admins.

[–]nevermock 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh.

[–]goodmod[M] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You have been shadowbanned by reddit admins (not by mensrights moderators). See /r/ShadowBan for information about shadowbans.

I have approved this comment so I can reply to you.

It seems reddit has a bot that looks for certain types of user behaviour that indicate spamming or brigading. Sometimes innocent users get shadowbanned along with the bad guys. Usually they can fix this if they contact the admins.

[+]bulletkiller06 -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes! Join the commune mascurads!

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[–]coleas123456789 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's because " winning " those wars was never the intention

Vietnam was probably the only time you could say the US unintentionally lost

[–]sleepyJoeBidet 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unintentionally lost ? The politicians stopped us from actually invading the north.

They prevented McArthur fron whiping out the commies in china, after they propped up north korea. This only emboldened the soviets, to prop up the north Vietnamese. And then we pulled out if Sigon just like Kabul.

Politicians dont have the stomach to win a quick war. And the stamina to endure a long one.

[–]__pulsar 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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