Where can you find the "good" girls? (If there is such a thing)

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-07-09T21:20:47+00:00

Find a young, inexperienced introvert. They are not easily spotted in the wild as they prefer an ecosystem called "home" where they read a lot and play with the cat. But they are sometimes spotted elsewhere.

What to look for: you see that group of girls over there? You see the one at the edge of the action, arms folded and looking like she's uncomfortable with her friends drinking? Yeah, her. She't the one. If it's a bachelorette party, she'll be the one without the stupid bling on.

She'd rather be at home, but she wants a boyfriend, so she let her slutty friends help her with her makeup and drag her out. She's your quarry.

The Bad News: Introverts do not like meeting people or strange environments, so she'll likely be stiff and uncommunicative. Do not let this discourage you. Easy for me because my favorite sister is an introvert in a family of extroverts and as I was least likely to judge her, we spent a lot of time together. Expect introverts to want to listen to your jokes and stories, and hope you don't notice how shy they are about telling their own.

The Good News: Underneath the frumpy clothes and the nerd glasses, there's a sex goddess waiting to be let out. Introverts are often secretly kinky as fuck. Also, as they hate meeting new people, etc., once they are in a relationship with you, they tend to stick around, because otherwise they'd have to go meet someone else, someone new. Ick.

Funny Introvert Girl Story: My 20 y.o. plate is painfully introverted. To the point where I never taker her out to restaurants anymore--I offered to for her graduation (girl nerd got her degree a year early) and she said, verbatim, "You know I don't like to go out." So anyway, last spring break, she went on a trip with her slutty friends. I was a bit surprised, but you're only young once, etc. After their 2nd night at the hotel--4 girls in a room with 2 double beds--I get a "They're bringing BOYS back to our room!" text, so told her have her shit packed and ready and I hopped a plane to Florida, picked her up, and took her over to the "grown ups" hotel. I worked remotely during the day while she did "beach" stuff with her slutty girlfriends, and then she came back to Daddy in the evening. And I plated her, happily ever after (so far).

Good luck.

frerri · 2016-07-09T15:30:42+00:00

There is no place where the quality LTR material congregates. Some would suggest Church but I know there are plenty of sluts and "reformed virgins" there.

My suggestion is to keep spinning plates until you find a good one. Learn how to screen quality from the sluts (read the ROK article entitled "25 signs she's a slut"). If you spin enough plates, some of them will be good LTR material.

The other option is to move to another more traditional country but there are a number of problems with that e.g. learning the language, culture etc.

BPasFuck · 2016-07-09T15:23:42+00:00

Look. There's a reason they call them unicorns.

You understand?

You'll have a much easier time of things if you focus on your mission instead, and let them find you.

2016-07-09T16:01:19+00:00

On redpillwomen, they state that the "perfect" mate has a mix of alpha qualities with some beta qualities.

I want to point out something about this just because of your wording here. While there's a lot of focus in TRP on targeting alpha behaviors and avoiding beta behaviors, and that's mostly because the new people who come in are so ridiculously beta in every aspect of their life that it's an easy way to approach things.

However, in reality, there are good things to be that can be considered beta in nature and bad things to be that can be considered alpha in nature. For one quick example, having a good job and having put a lot of work into your career can be seen as beta, but it's obviously better than not having a good job or having put much work into your career, especially if you have a higher level of control ala consulting, running a business that you own, have invested wisely, etc.

In this sense, it's easy to see why there are certain alpha and beta qualities that would make an ideal husband from a RP woman's perspective.

How do you find those girls who don't have high N counts, but are still attractive and worthwhile as a potential partner?

There is no shortcut. Essentially, you're going to have to go through women indefinitely until you find a girl who has few red flags and meets whatever criteria you have for an LTR. And then you're going to have to vet the fuck out of her. You can find some good ideas on this vetting process by Googling "wife test ian ironwood" without the quotes. However, in the same way that a woman will never be able to tell 100% of a guy is only going after her or with her for sex, you'll never be able to tell 100% if a girl is going to be loyal and so on and so forth.

With that having been said, there are plenty of things you can do to minimize your risk. Even if you've decided that you want to get married and have kids, which TRP tends to suggest is a massive cardinal sin (again, probably good starting advice for the majority of guys), there are still plenty of options to minimize your risk, particularly with how you handle the prenup to minimize the chances of it being thrown out.

A lot of it comes from a position of taking responsibility for your shit instead of the blue pill notion that you should just go with the flow and whatever happens, happens. A great example is that every single case that TRP points to of a prenup being invalidated is over a handful of 5-6 things that are pretty simple to avoid, but it does take some legwork. Instead of doing the legwork, these guys do stupid shit like have the same lawyer represent both him and the bride when signing the prenup (conflict of interest), they have her sign the prenup too close to the wedding (which makes it coercive and invalidates the contract along those lines), they don't have a drug test performed at the time of the signing of the prenup (which means she can go on some bullshit about being drunk or drugged or whatever) and they don't video record the actual signing of the thing (proof of her state of being, lack of coercion, etc.) If you check off those boxes and make sure that the pre-nup actually gives her something reasonable in the split (ie: not too one-sided in that you get everything and she gets jack shit in the case of no-fault divorce), you're fine. Then all you have to do is make sure you don't move to a different state that won't recognize your prenup for some reason.

Now all of that is too much of a pain in the ass for the average guy. However, if you really want to have kids and that's the center of everything for you, then a patriarchal, married household is by far the best way to go about it. And in that case, you might as well be as informed as possible, take what you want from the RP toolbox and leave what doesn't work for you.

RedditAdminsSuck_88 · 2016-07-09T15:23:12+00:00

My question is this: how can you find a companion for a LTR or potentially marriage with a lower N count and higher standards? Do you have to become a beta to appeal to women with those standards?

You want the cold hard truth?

You can't.

There is no way.

Are there women out there with high standards who are attractive and have low or zero N counts? Yes.

But is there any way to know who these women are?

No. What you are looking for is a unicorn.

I am a strong Christian, weekly church goer to a pretty conservative church. I wouldn't trust the women in my own Church. If I can't trust them, who can I trust?

Would you trust a woman if she told you her N-Count was 0? I wouldn't.

So how are you supposed to know if a woman has a low N-Count or not? How are you supposed to verify whatever she tells you is true?

You can't. This is why I don't plan on getting married, and why we say don't get married, and why we say don't hunt unicorns. There is just no way to know. You may think you have found a good woman, but 5 years ago she was getting triple penetrated by 3 Chads while at the same time slurping up another Chad's cum while giving him a BJ. And there is no way for you to know that. And you marry her, and she can not pair bond because of her racy past, and she is an alpha widow so she will eventually become miserable and unhappy.

It's just not worth it. It's too big of a gamble. You have no idea what you are getting even if you do all the vetting possible in the world. It's Russian Roulette with 5 bullets in the chamber instead of 1. Even then I think your odds are shittier than 1 in 6.

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Caucasian-African · 2016-07-09T16:41:09+00:00

There are no unicorns. However, there are attractive, respectable, competent and pleasant women which are hard to find.

1 You should not become a beta, but you'll have to deal with the fact that the woman you speak of will try and treat you as such, moreso than any other. This is the price, it's up to you whether you're willing to pay. Your ideal will be the captain-first mate dynamic, which is different from her being a plate.

2 Don't search for them in clubs. There was a post about this recently, to which I have little to add.

3 As for religion, I find that the best girl is someone for whom religion it's simply not a big issue. To much indicates repressed sexuality, thus very strong AF-desires, if it's to little, she's not middle-class enough, with all the baggage that it brings.

4 I don't think there is a short cut to mainstream advice: Look out for women with actual hobbies and interests. From rock climbing to art venues. Now, obviously don't go to yoga classes or Muay Thai courses (I mean, you should attend the latter no matter what). Engage in an active lifestyle of your liking that is also shared by women.

Don't kid yourself, you won't find a woman who is genuinely passionate about something demanding, and if you do, she will be slutty. What you are looking for, is a woman who does these things because, in her mind, she is "supposed to" be engaged in them. It's a checklist for her. As a child her parents should have taught her not to be lazy and, for example, enlisted her in various courses. The inertia of parentally* instilled discipline is the very thing that makes her stand out from a plate, who either lacks beauty, or was driven to ruin by it.

So, in way, finding such a girl is harder, but this is partly evened out by the fact that you can actually break the "don't shit where you eat rule". Because you don't intend to "shit", as you will not have to deal with post-breakup-drama and such, IF you do the next step correctly.

5 Vetting and common sense. Her attributes are:

Never vulgar, obviously no tattoos or piercings, dresses considerably less slutty than she could get away with, has or is working on a career, is financially independent, no huge debts, not depending on daddy either. Her social circle is more stable than large, and contains very few guys, and those should be completely beta. Ideally she should already be in a LTR with a guy more beta than you, one that begun years ago and has gotten stale, which she will leave for you, but without her framing it as "for you", and without cheating.

Finding a girl that is at least pretty, not slutty, and actually pleasant, is as hard as it is for a girl to find her 6foot 6figures passionate interesting husband who is also loyal sweet and caring with her. You won't ever be completely satisfied, but you shouldn't let the voices here dissuade you from trying, it can be worth it.

(*excuse my language, English is not my first)

2016-07-10T11:40:42+00:00

Good girls are made, not found.

You are looking for pliability not a finished Disney fantasy

TheFirsh · 2016-09-15T08:23:11+00:00

Let me introduce a place what I deem a unicorn factory. Where quality LTR material congregates :D Not sure what it's called in the English-speaking countries, but it's a university or college where people learn how to become elementary school teachers or preschool teachers. Where I live there is barely any male teachers in schools lower than a high school. Therefore this means that the university that educates these future teachers have a very good female to male ratio. I see 20:1 nowadays. They are basically either fighting for that one guy in class or are very deprived of dick. There is simply not enough male exposure to grant them all someone. They tend to be cute and caring introverts. Just go in the building and ask for directions or whatever. Or mess around in the park near the building. It swarms of young beauties with normal expectations of the world (not what you see in clubs). My dad used to teach them (lucky him :D) and whenever I go there, everyone notices me as a guy sticks out like a sore thumb in there, it's wonderful.

One of my girlfriends I got from a summer art camp of this school (remember the ratio). Then some time later my elusive childhood unicorn crush randomly ends up for a few years in this place. Then it was confirmed that it's a good pool to fish in.

JackGetsIt · 2016-07-09T16:35:54+00:00

The problem you're dealing with is 'sex positivity' being preached to highschool and college girls.

You sound like you're in a good place to find a near unicorn if she does exist. I'd plate your current girl your dating and go after incoming freshmen with one or two n count basically what you have now but before she jumped on the college train. However, you're basically going to run into the problem of keeping her faithful in a college environment which is nearly impossible. So maybe the only solution is to just plate girls through college and wait till after college to seek out that particular girl that made it through college without jumping on the carousel. Their out there but in short supply.

I'd also recommend rethinking marrying as well. It's just a bad deal and there's no getting around it. Can you mitigate risk yes. But it's still very risky.

2016-07-09T16:12:47+00:00

Stop getting butthurt over N-count. The only guys who get butthurt over N-count are the ones who can't get laid. Sure high N-count women usually make bad partners but if you have abundance mentality you'll have low n-count options and can keep the high n-counts as FWB / side chicks. Some girls go through a slut phase where they just want to experience sex with a few different guys and see what they like. Instead of being a hater, you should be that guy who they're experiencing sex with. You can't stop girls from having sex. Get over it.

That being said, you'll find higher quality girlfriend material women participating in school related activities in college. They'll usually be in a club of some kind, doing a sport like cross country, have good grades, and generally excel in whatever they set forth to do in life. You'll also find better quality of women at a private college than a party your ass off state college.

Another thing about high quality women.. Lots of them branch swing boyfriend to boyfriend. While this may seem like a negative trait it's actually a positive one. It suggests that they only have sex with men they're in a committed relationship with. Of course this is just a generalization, there are plenty of branch swingers who cheat all the time but if you have a lick of street smarts in you it's pretty easy to sniff em out. Low quality women are single all the time because they bring nothing to the table to spike a high quality man's interest in an LTR. These chicks usually don't cook, while they're not gross they don't have great hygiene, lazy, full of excuses, drink and drug too much etc..

The most important aspect of higher quality "good girls" though is you need to be a fucking winner to keep them. You yourself need to excel in school, be a part of a cool social circle whether it's a sports team or playing in a rock band, have goals that you work toward, be in good shape, be intelligent etc.. This shit is not a 1 way street. You need to put in effort too to make yourself high SMV.

Think of what Snoop Dogg says "If you believe in the S (success) you be relievin' yo stress".

ecosci · 2016-07-09T19:15:31+00:00

You cant, but you can shoot for a 2-5 years of semi happiness it all goes to hell after that she will either cheat or get bored sorry dude awalt.

vicious_armbar · 2016-07-10T02:19:18+00:00

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Title	Where can you find the "good" girls? (If there is such a thing)
Author	jeyshawn
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Date	July 9, 2016 3:15 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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