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Actually, it was spesifically this difference in law that feminism was created to ensure existed. It's the original reason for feminism in the first place. See, back in the day when men got voting rights, most women did not want it cause it would force them to apply for the draft. Feminist was created because some women wanted to vote without registrering for the draft. And they spesifically wanted it only for women, and for men to still be forced to register. It's why many did not support them. In fact many groups like socialists at first wanted stop work with women, but since these feminist women spesifically wanted inequality in that they wanted men to be forced to go die on the battlefield but not women.

It's the dirty little secret at the heart of feminism they don't want you to know; the very core, it's foundation and goal of creation was to ensure inequality and sexism towards men.

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Many feminist support equal drafting. And the biggest reasons why feminist don't support equal drafting isn't because of the drafting itself but because women are extremely likely to be sexual assaulted in the military. Especially since women are twice as likely to get PTSD as men.

It's not that women shouldn't be drafted, but the environment in itself. Women aren't being treated equally in the military so why should they be drafted equally? And the people who aren't treating women equally are men.

On top of that, even if women were drafted, the standards of acceptance are fitted for men and most women wouldn't drafted anyway.

Even more so, more women support women being drafted than men supporting women being drafted. So really, the people who are holding back an equal draft are republican men, as more democrats support drafting women than republicans do.

So you're extremely over simplifying a huge issue.

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I think you're leaving some things out that do speak to the inequality in the Selective Services.

As it stands right now, a man has to register for the Selective Services before the age of 26. If he does not, then he faces a felony charge and possible jail time. I think most people know this. However, what I see missing from this "huge issue" debate is everything else that comes with registering for the Selective Services.

Here are some of the other things that men miss out on when they doesn't register...

a.)The ability to gain a security clearance. Security clearances are not restricted to government employees. Most jobs with firms that support federal work require them. It's also one of the first questions on almost any clearance application supplied by the OPM.

b.) You cannot work for the federal government. Unless you have a legal exception, or can prove you weren't avoiding registering, you are barred from holding a job with any federal agency and some state agencies as well.

c.) No federal grants\loans. This includes student loans and grant programs in 31 states.

This should be the heart of the debate surrounding this "huge issue" IMHO. Women are granted these "rights" at the age of 18 without having to register, whereas men have to to make a symbolic gesture to die for their country to gain the same privilege.

I am not saying that your points are invalid, but I am saying you're missing a big chunk of what the Selective Services actually does.

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Can you walk to your car at night? Are you forced to smear crap all over your face to keep employment? Are you capable of wearing anything in your closet without fear of harassment? Can you go for a run with headphones in? There are endless personal freedoms that you take for granted. Women get paid less, women are more likely to be passed over for promotions, women have to have their husbands permission for sterilization if they havent had kids or been married yet it’s impossible no doctor will approve it. Birth control doesn’t have to be covered by insurance even though millions of women use it for reasons other than preventing pregnancy.

I want to know what freedoms/ rights you think women have that you dont? Is it just the draft? Or do you think some other rights you are being denied. Because we should all want to end the draft, not add women to it. No one should be forced to die.

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Before I respond, I wanna say, those aren’t rights. If you think they are rights, show me where in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution it says anything resembling “Men may walk to their cars at night while women may not.”

-I can’t walk to my car at night. Women seem to think men aren’t afraid of the dark. And that mens’ skin can deflect bullets. I’m just as scared of going out at night as you are.

No, but you don’t either.

I literally wear the identical outfit every day with maybe a change in jackets. So yes, but not for the reason you implied.

Yes I can. And so can you.

Women get paid less on average. If you want to raise the average, get a higher-paying job you’re uninterested in and will hate.

Yes they are. That’s the only thing I concede to you up until this point. Though that isn’t a right.

Sorry, can you elaborate on the sterilization thing? I’d like to know more.

You think birth control should be covered by insurance?

Not just the draft. There are two. The other one is circumcision. Constitutionally, (and I’m referring to rights, not privileges) girls can’t be circumcised. But boys are routinely and traditionally circumcised. Female circumcision type 1 is the same as male circumcision. But that’s still banned. Go on r/circumcisiongrief and you’ll see all the depressing stories the people there tell about their circumcisions. It’s saddening that men have to live with the fact their parents paid someone $500 to strap them down and ruin their sex life forever. All it matters to girls is if you prefer cut or uncut.

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Right i said personal freedoms not just rights. Its not just about what rights you have on paper but what personal freedoms you are afforded

Yes you might feel the fear of being robbed or shot but thats only in neighborhoods where that occurs. You also wont be blamed for crimes you fall victim to. Women will be. “Why were you alone at night”

Women are forced to wear makeup. You can be fired for it and theres nothing women can do about it. Its legal to make women conform to a companies beauty standard.

Women are not afforded that luxury. Back to the companies beauty standard. Women have to conform to different dress codes than men. Some companies still dont let women wear pants.

No women cant run with headphones in. Because if someone decides to attack her the first statement will be “why did you have both headphones in?” “You need to be aware” back to that whole women are to blame for their assaults

Women are paid less for the same positions with the same qualifications. Like thats not something that will change with a career change. Heck now judges are blocking people from being allowed to change jobs.

Women cant be sterilized if they dont already have children. Even if they have children they have to have their husbands sign off on it. Even if the women have ovarian cancer getting the care they need is almost impossible. Women are more likely to be ignored in the medical field in general. Its horrible but women constantly have their problems dismissed as being hysterical or over reacting to their issues and end up dying from heart related problems at a much higher rate than men. Honestly the medical field is really really bad for anyone who isnt a white male. Medical text books often over look symptoms that are common in female and poc patients. Womens symptoms are often much different than mens.

Im sorry but if viagra and erectile disfunction treatments are covered by insurance treatments for women’s issues like pcocs and heavy periods which can be treated by birth control should be too.

Fgm and circumcision are different. Fgm is the complete removal of the clit and often the stitching of the vaginal opening to cause pain in intercourse. The facts on male circumcision in lots of forums like that are heavily misinformed. You do not lose size while hard only flaccid. Which i guess is something if you are insecure but the size of your penis while hard is the same whether or not you are circumcised. Sorry i know that’s disappointing for a lot of people who need someone to blame for size. Size is nothing to be ashamed of and there are tons of ways to increase sensitivity. Circumcision has medical reasons for men. My husband had to be circumcised as a teenager because of his head not being able to come out of the foreskin i forget what its called but it caused a ton of pain and he had to deal with a ton of pain as a result of the later in life circumcision. I made the choice to prevent that happening to my son because disorders like that are genetic.

[–]Evening-Blackberry502 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That’s cool. Sure you said personal freedoms. But I asked you for rights.

Yes I will lmao. I don’t go outside at all - not just in the neighborhood.

You’re “forced” to do that? That sucks. Do you have a link to like an article about it or..?

Oh yeah huh. That sucks. But also, that’s not a right or in this case a lack thereof - it’s a company policy. Don’t like it? Don’t work there.

So you think men have a force field around them that prevents them from being attacked when they aren’t paying attention? Also, you do need to be aware. That’s not to say it’s your fault though.

Oh. Can you give me an article link to that?

Oh yeah my sister told me about that. She said that’s also the reason men (boys) are diagnosed with autism. ADHD, and shit that at higher rates. Girls have different reactions and symptoms but we use the template we use for men because we assume everyone is the same.

Fair enough. I concede.

Female circumcision type one, as I said before but you seemed to ignore, is the same as male circumcision. It cuts off the hood of the clit.

You actually just tried to defend circumcision and you did it to your son. Wow. I thought if you wanted equality, you’d at least admit circumcision is a barbaric practice done on literal babies with the excuse of medical purposes. But no. You mutilated your son. You cut his foreskin off and removed 30% of the sexual sensation he would’ve felt otherwise. His penis will become shriveled because his foreskin isn’t constantly lubricating it. He’s gonna develop a callas from rubbing the head of his penis against his clothes. You claim you want equality when you’re part of the problem, you’re part of the reason men have less rights than women in the first place. And the worst part is, you forced your son to be a victim of it. But you’re still gonna claim it was medically necessary. Because it doesn’t affect you and you don’t wanna believe you tortured your son. All it matters to you is whether you prefer cut or uncut.

What your husband had is called phimosis. You can use creams to get rid of it. There’s no need to mutilate your genitals. Your husband got scammed into ruining his sex life.

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source bomb incoming

https://www.boredpanda.com/bosses-forcing-employees-wear-makeup/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

https://www.texasheart.org/heart-health/heart-information-center/topics/women-and-heart-disease/

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/medicines-failure-with-women-in-pain-11623470460

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

Please read the difference between female and male circumcision because its not what you have been told. And nothing was ruined there are several studies that show the little to no difference between circumcised and intact men. Thats from men who were circumcised later in life. You are being brainwashed. You are not being an equalist. I am for real an equalist i want everyone to have the same rights and freedoms as everyone else.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6390784/#__sec3title

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17155977/

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I honestly worry about male health when they are uncircumcised in general. We as a society don’t prioritize males cleanliness. We just dont and that leads to a lot of bacterial infections that will go un treated until they become a major problem. Both circumcised and uncircumcised men can get yeast infections but uncircumcised men pose the biggest risk to their fertility. Because particles can get trapped and we dont teach young men how to properly care for themselves. With most stds as well.

We as a society put so much pressure on women to clean themselves we even put harmful products on the shelves and tell young girls they should use them. Douce and ph balancing anything is actually really harmful and is likely to cause a bacterial infection than to rid one.

Also something they dont tell anyone but vaginas are acidic. If you dont clean yourself after sex it can cause a whole litany of issues. I mean for guys and its not because the vagina was dirty but because vaginal secretions are acidic.

But we dont support young men the same way. All too often i have heard of men who are uncomfortable touching themselves to clean and its just so bad for over all well being. Not just physically but mentally as well. We have put so much pressure on men to be mEn that we dont even tell them its ok to clean themselves.

God dont even get me started on those poor young men in the bible belt where natural feelings and actions are a pariah

Honestly if it wasnt for the childs best interest all procedures should be outlawed. Seriously all of them including ear piercing. Thats so barbaric. If you could shield your child from all the pain in the world wouldnt you? Shouldn’t you? My daughter is actually tongue tied and they missed it medically. Now shes too old to have it fixed and my heart breaks that we will have to fix it when shes older. Covid make the hospital cut corners and they missed somethigg by that could have been a quick snip. Made me and her suffer for months thinking it was my fault she couldnt latch. Made me use formula… ooo sorry theres a tangent

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Date	January 25, 2022 5:16 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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