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It seems like these same feminist progressive women want their cake and eat it toošŸ¤¦šŸ½

coolboy_24278

March 26, 2022
48 upvotes
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https://nypost.com/2021/07/10/why-progressive-women-want-to-date-men-who-act-conservative/
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Title It seems like these same feminist progressive women want their cake and eat it toošŸ¤¦šŸ½
Author

coolboy_24278

Upvotes 48
Comments 8
Date March 26, 2022 5:40 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/toypaj/it_seems_like_these_same_feminist_progressive/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/it-seems-like-these-same-feminist-progressive.1110149
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According to these feminists on this post, we are not allowed to go overseas and seek out women and open our options. they want us to be stuck to their ways . smh

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What do you guys think of this statement? ā€œThe only reason you hear men 32+ saying they want a young ā€œpureā€ women is because they want to get away with substandard treatment. ā€œ

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There is it boys!ā˜ŗļøšŸ…

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Somehow she thought I was stalking her when all i did was reply to her comment on a post from my newsfeed

202 upvotes
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Banned from menslib…

139 upvotes
April 13, 2022
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We all silently agree that this is also a problem we see on movies, shows, and commercials we watch??

119 upvotes
January 22, 2022
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Autistic guy ask feminists why most other people, especially women, don’t empathasize with his social struggles and he gets told he’s ā€œentitledā€ ā€œnot our problemā€ ā€œno one owes you anythingā€

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February 1, 2023
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OP makes a sensible post about social media misandry and most of the comments think he’s complaning and deflecting from ā€œwomen’s problemsā€šŸ˜”

82 upvotes
July 31, 2022
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[–]pargofan 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

she remains a feminist who will only date conservative men...

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[–]Halafax 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rules are for thee, never for me.

[–]throwaway20210821 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The author is plugging their book and using anecdotes to justify their conclusions.

More American women are childless than ever before—nearly half those of childbearing age don’t have children. While our society often assumes these women are ā€œchildfree by choice,ā€ that’s not always true. In reality, many of them expected to marry and have children, but it simply hasn’t happened. Wrongly judged as picky or career-obsessed, they make up the ā€œOtherhood,ā€ a growing demographic that has gone without definition or visibility until now.In Otherhood, author Melanie Notkin reveals her own story as well as the honest, poignant, humorous, and occasionally heartbreaking stories of women in her generation—women who expected love, marriage, and parenthood, but instead found themselves facing a different reality. She addresses the reasons for this shift, the social and emotional impact it has on our collective culture, and how the ā€œnew normalā€ will affect our society in the decades to come.Notkin aims to reassure women that they are not alone and encourages them to find happiness and fulfillment no matter what the future holds. A groundbreaking exploration of an essential contemporary issue, Otherhood inspires thought-provoking conversation and gets at the heart of our cultural assumptions about single women and childlessness.

This is a product placement ad for a book disguised as an op-ed. The New York Post is also a conservative outlet, so naturally they would prioritize stories that conservatives like to hear. The idea of liberal feminist women choosing a traditional conservative man is something that appeals heavily to a lot of conservatives and is a consistent theme in pop culture that conservatives like, so of course it would be talked about and stories ran about it.

The study https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0146167218781000 cited in the article is itself completely ideologically driven and pushes the false ideas of "benevolent sexism" and "hostile sexism" that feminists use to both categorize which forms of sexism should be considered less bad and use to downplay favoritism toward women and falsely blame it as disadvantaging women more than it does men (even though "benevolent sexism" is anything but benevolent towards men and involves hostile attitudes toward men alongside the more favorable attitudes to women).

According to ambivalent sexism theory, sexism is marked by a mixture of hostile and benevolent attitudes (Glick & Fiske, 1996). Hostile sexism (HS) encompasses overtly prejudiced attitudes, whereas benevolent sexism (BS) involves subjectively positive attitudes (e.g., ā€œwomen should be cherished and protected by menā€), chivalrous behaviors, and attempts to achieve intimacy with women (Dardenne, Dumont, & Bollier, 2007; Glick & Fiske, 1996). Despite its romantic and flattering tone, BS is thought to reinforce the notion that women are inferior and confine women to their traditional gender roles (Glick & Fiske, 2001).

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Design and procedure
The experiment had a 2 (behavior type: BS vs. non-BS) Ɨ 2 (relationship type: romantic vs. professional) mixed factorial design. In the romantic relationship condition, participants imagined that they were single and open to starting a romantic relationship with a work colleague, whereas in the professional relationship condition, participants imagined that they were not single, not looking for new romantic relationships, and only interested in having professional relationships with work colleagues. In both conditions, participants were presented with a description of two men, Robert and John (names counterbalanced), one displaying BS behaviors and the other non-BS behaviors. The scenario described BS behaviors such as offering his coat, carrying heavy boxes, helping to use a computer program, and opening doors for the participant, whereas the non-BS man was described as taking a more gender equal role (see Supplemental Material for the scenarios). Participants then rated several items for both the BS and non-BS target on 7-point scales ranging from (1) not at all to (7) very.

[–]pacsatonifil 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I’ve met plenty of conservative women that are feminist. I don’t think those ideologies are opposites or to liberalism. It can be used by both sides for their end goals

[–]TFME1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's degrees on a "spectrum". Liberals are "orders of magnitude" more likely to be "radical" feminists...i.e. "extremist" feminists.

[–]pacsatonifil 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well yes, but I grew up in a deep red conservative area. Trust me they won’t be radical feminists but they will still be conservative super feminists and openly talk about how men ain’t shit

[–]greyman0425 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only difference between a conservative feminist and liberal leftist feminist are the arguments they use to attack men and why.

The south is a disguised matriarchy. If mama ain't happy nobody's happy is a very old saying for a reason.

[–]TFME1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course... It's statistically improbable to be any other way. There are no perfectly monolithic blocks anywhere in any community. There are bound to be radical feminists on both sides of the political fence (likely far more on the liberal side of it, though.)

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